My friend is trying to make a patio and is maybe a rerard. i helped him dig it out today, and now that we have a 10x12patch of dirt i asked himwhat the next step was. He doesnt know.
Is it ok to go landscape fabric, then a few inches of rock, then pavers? Would this be fucked in a couple years?
Pic is kindof the look hes going for, 12" or 18" squares with a few inches of pebble in between
>>1004185
if you live in an area that freezes then you need to dig deeper (18-24 inches) and fill it in with gravel. Then you level it with paver sand, put the bricks on top of the level sand and fill the gaps. make your pavers meet level with the sod to ensure they don't shift much.
>>1004190
Theres zero chance he will dig that deep. What happens if its only 6" deep in an area that freezes? Thats the main thing i cant find of google
>>1004197
Every winter the bricks will shift and pop up/sink more and more
>>1004197
Frost heave.
It depends on where you live though. If you are in Michigan you gotta go halfway to China. If its just a little California frost, that only lasts overnight then don't worry about it.
>>1004197
It's gotta be dug deeper than the frost line, 24" is best, and make sure you tamp that soil real good before laying everything
>>1004223
That is some grade A bullshit right there. Literally no one where I am from does this, and our paving is just fine.
Except for mine, because a giant truck filled with 12m3 of sand drove over it.
>>1004223
seems a bit deep even for a frosty area... where I live the official frost line is 42" deep. I can guarantee that no driveway or sidewalk here has 42"+ of gravel under it!!! and I don't see sidewalks or driveways heaving up and down all over the place.
>>1004223
>It's gotta be dug deeper than the frost line, 24" is best
>24"
>Deeper than the frost line
>Northern State
Pick 2
Here in Minnesota, footings have to be between 54 and 60 inches below ground for code.
In the winter of 2014 the measured the frostline depth in one location in the state at 95 inches.
>>1005088
This. The whole state isnt going to have their driveway foundation dug 5 feet down.
>>1004185
Yes this will be fine.
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>>1004185
i put these edgers in 6 years ago
dug only a shade deeper than the block was thick
added sand to make level
leveled sand with hose water
placed block
never touched again and they haven't moved a bit
IOWA
>>1005303
forgot pic