I really do wish they'd do something about that fact that DC's main team has 6 dudes and only 1 girl.
And why the hell can't the writing of a female comic be better? I'm sick of the sass. I'm sick of the empowerment speeches... just act it. I'm sick of the Bendis inspired bad hipster dialog. Let's have some action. Let's bring back clothes ripping off and girls ending up half naked.
As a person who is into the females I would enjoy comics more without having to look at muscle dudes everywhere and see some sexy ladies. I know they do exist, but it's just too small a percentage. I'm sick of looking at dudes.
Why did something unobtainable without steroids become what everybody gay comic guy is attracted to? How about some pretty girly boys at least?
Its called Fanfiction OP
>>84228288
Because men are superior
This is now a bara beefcake thread
Post muscles
>>84228288
Dude, are you high or something? You're literally living in the age of muh female protagonist.
>>84228322
Wait a second...People actually give a fuck about Hawk Man? No one gives a shit about Hawk Gal.
>>84228332
I'll believe that when DC buys the rights to Cyber Six and makes a Cyber Six show to counter fight Marvel's Jessica Jones and Agent Carter
>>84228342
People give more shits about Hawk Girl than Guy because of the cartoon
>>84228377
That was literally decades ago
People want Wonder Woman and Power Girl as DC's head female cast
>>84228288
Unobtainable-without-steroids bodies in comics haven't been a thing since like the 90s.
>>84228400
Nah, Hawkgirl is still popular with casuals.
>>84228343
Is Deadpool watching them shower?
Why is it that female centered titles are the most fun? I realized the other day that most of the titles I buy are about female characters. The only reason it's about evened out now is because of Rebirth.
>>84228539
Prove it
Name a profitable recent comic that had Hawk Girl in it.
>>84228578
t. bizzarro /co/
>>84228578
Are you one of those faggots who spouts how the Harley x Ivy relationship is perfectly natural and how Gotham Sirens is anything other than a piece of wank bait for obese virgin manchildren?
>>84228593
I don't read either of those books, so I don't know. I'm readin stuff like Rocket Girl and Gotham Academy.
>>84228593
like you don't quack qwank to green lantern
>>84228602
>Gotham Academy
Wasn't that the name of that cancelled Batman IP
>>84228609
The fuck are you on about?
>>84228582
Casuals don't read comics. The popularity of Hawkgirl comes from her inclusion in both DCAU Justice League cartoons, and they were pretty influential with the casual crowd. If I remember correctly, wasn't there this whole thing when the GL movie came out over people thinking that it was weird that they casted a white guy as GL since casuals mainly knew John because of the cartoon?
>>84228332
I think he wants something a little less Joss Whedony
>>84228675
Does anyone have the details about why the Green Lantern movie was the way it is
What did Ryan Reynolds think of it?
Youg terrorist,Tomboy,. Tank girl 2 girls 1 tank, are some non cape's Comic's I'm reading with main character is Female.
>>84228686
Too fucking bad that would trigger Tumblr and it be labeled as Oppressive
>>84228689
>Tomboy
ma nigga
>>84228288
dude baby steps, the pendulum is beginning to swing back the other way but Gen 13 and Purgatori aren't going to be on the shelves on Wednesday, you going to have support subpar trash like Jason Pearson's America, Zenescope and (god forbid) Dynamite to show there's still a market for Good Girl/Bad Girl comics.
support the books (and variant covers sadly) you are into and avoid the bullshit.
>>84228322
Will comics ever be MANLY again?
>>84228672
Anon Civil War was literally filler. Its existence was based strictly on adding new members to the Avengers when they prepare for Thanos
No mention of Thor Ragnarok at all in the movie leads me to suspect Thor Ragnarok is gonna draw the least money
I pray bad things from Doctor Strange that shit is coming out in fucking November!
>>84228725
it's called Island
>>84228709
You posted a pic of Wolverine in tight assjeans.
What exactly were you requesting when you asked for more "MANLY" ? ? ?
the problem with american comics is they're nothing but the same ugly capeshit franchise recycled over and over rather than create new stuff
If you want good comics with good male and female characters, read manga
>>84228798
You're on the wrong board.
>>84228778
Manly men in tight jeans, of course.
>>84228778
Y'know, MANLY.
>>84228803
The objective truth goes on all boards.
>>84228798
>weebshit
You have to go back.
>>84228809
>unworthy
That ass tells me otherwise.
>>84228809
he means daddy bears.
>>84228809
How come americans draw this beefcake supposedly "for the ladies" and yet anime bishonen and biseinen are far more popular with women? How come women largely read manga and watch anime far more than they read american crap?
Heck women actually create anime and manga far more than american fatties create comics at all.
>>84228809
Thicc Thor was the only good thing to come out of Whor.
>>84228817
Anime and manga is objectively better than capeshit. More creators, more genres, more works to enjoy unrelated to each other so it's not literally the same shit regurgitated over and over. That's why anime and manga is mainstream while capeshit is niche.
>>84228858
No idea, but I'm not complaining.
I grew out of the bishonen pretty boy phase when I was 16, give me all the bara now. The beefier, the better.
>>84228858
Girls tend to gravitate more toward either bishie/pretty boy types or ottermode guys; note how the actors used in capeshit movies usually aren't that big or muscular. The beefcake fanservice is typically more targeted toward gay menand truly patrician women.
>>84228906
I said women anon, everyone knows gays prefer muscled bodies. That is why the homosexual porn industry divides itself into two branches: yaoi (which is by women for women and it's about handsome, masculine but still relatively normal - compared to the characters in porn for gay men, that is - dudes and effeminate twink self-insert characters for the woman) and bara (which is by men for men and it's all about huge muscles). You can have bara-looking characters in yaoi for those women that like very built guys (they're still always paired with more feminine-looking characters), but two muscled men? That's gay stuff for homosexuals.
>>84228973
But anon,I am a woman.
Contrary to popular belief, women are not a single entity that share the same taste in men and porn.
>>84228418
>be average man
>gets some random superpower
>he was jacked af all along
>>84228985
>I am a woman
I know /co/ is really /tumblr/ but just thinking you're a woman does not make you a woman. Transexuals are not the gender they want to be they're just delusional people that want to be something they're not.
>Contrary to popular belief, women are not a single entity
Indeed but it's undeniable that there are general trends in what women at large like in their porn and when it comes to homosexual porn it is exactly as I described. That is why the vast majority of yaoi creators are women, and their audience is majority women, while the vast majority of bara creators is gay men, and their audience is majority gay men. 85% of Yaoi-Con membership are female, and they are mostly heterosexual.
>>84228858
Because women have shit taste and make poor choices. It reflects in how they're not the dominant gender.
>>84229042
I never said the trend isn't like you described, just that there are exceptions to the rule.
All the comic beefcake pandering works for me, since I'm into manly men and not into pretty boys. Why are you so invested in this topic anyway? Do you want bishonen guys in comics too? Pretty sure all those Robins are perfect for your taste.
>>84228986
The point is that superhero bodies aren't unobtainable at all. Also, literally when has that happened?
>>84229042
I forgot; oddly enough, the small minority of male creators and audience in the woman-oriented genre of yaoi is actually straight men. I suppose that is because yaoi characters are still created with a feminine look and a female mind, which is obviously attractive to a heterosexual man.
>>84229044
>manga and anime are far more successful than capeshit, you literally have to rely on hollywood live action not to make people go literally who at your regurgitated garbage
>not a single female successful creator
>anime and manga are better, more engaging, better looking, more likable and lovable characters, and have plenty of extremely successful female creators
>so butthurt about this he cannot help but shitpost, tears of rage falling down his cheeks
>>84229042
i myself am a male to female transgender... but that's not quite accurate. i'm more a man to woman transrole. i still believe myself to be male... i just want to wear pretty things.
i do agree with you that most trans are delusional... and tell themselves they have a spirit vagina just so they can wear pretty things.
but then again... most humans are delusional in some way... believing in god... aliens... conspiracies... usually it's just a means to an end... because they're not logical enough to be truthful.
>>84228610
That's Gotham High.
>>84229110
So, you're just a transvestite?
Also, you sound kinda psychotic.
>>84229107
>>>/a/
Seriously, why do you weeb fucks have to shit up every board? Nobody gives a shit about your animu garbage here.
>>84229127
*laughs maniacally*
no, i'm not mearly a transvestite because i take hormones as well.
>>84229044
But you're the one with the literal faggot shit taste anon. You should go watch some anime.
>>84229127
usually i describe myself as mtf non-op transsexual.
for the sake of solidarity and simplicity.
Are f/a/ggots basically religious zealots?
They always infiltrate threads that have nothing to do with them and try to sell you on their superior japanese cartoons. It's pretty weird.
>>84229121
Not gonna lie, Bane looks sexy as fuck here.
>inb4 U
>>84228688
Executive meddling to make it more like Iron Man, CGI budget massively slashed at the last minute, writing it as a franchise launcher instead of just trying to make a good movie, trying to retrofit a decade old script to include all the new Johns stuff, but mostly all of that comes down to Warner executives having their own financial vision for the movie that didn't align with what the creators were actually trying to make.
Reynolds obviously was pretty torn up about it because he was so into the role, but I don't know if he's actually discussed his feelings on the movie. It's not a good idea to talk shit in Hollywood unless you have an unsinkable career.
I just want woman superhero with boy sidekick already.
>>84229250
You know come to think of it I can't think of any there most be some though
>>84228985
This. Same as how some guys like skinny girls and some like thicc, some like DFC and some like cowtits, and so on.
Really, loli and moeshit is for dudes what bishies are for women. On the global scale beefcake and cheesecake are the more popular tastes. Look at Hemsworth and Evans, for fucks sake.
>>84229250
>>84229273
well am i wrong or have i never seen any of these either:
woman with a girl
man with a girl
who would endanger a kid anyways? that's just nuts. obviously batman does because he was originally supposed to be a gay pedophile.
>>84229311
Oh I wasent even thinking about age I just meant I can't think of any male sidekicks to female hero's and its driving me insane trying to remember one
>>84229226
Well i think Reynolds was a nice young Hal, with better script and more Sinestro movie can be awesome.
>>84229293
>Hemsworth and Evans
>beefcake
Dude what
>>84229337
Well there is Cat and Kitten. If such teams existed in abundance, my cynical approach to such a story would make sense.
>>84229293
You want to think it's like that, but it's not.
>>84228288
>How about some pretty girly boys at least?
>Saying this after accusing people who read male-protagonist comics to be gay
>>84229423
news flash
lots of guys who read comics are gay.
and did i say they were ALL gay?
so why do you jump to conclusions? answer: probably cuz you're stupid.
>>84228798
Which one... One piece right now has the worst female characters in the wsj, Toriko is a sausage party, world trigger has dull female characters.
Both fairy tail and uq holder fail at using female characters because of the fanservice and Nanatsu is a hit or miss.
Right now the only manga that uses female characters in a good way is Black clover and it´s still to early to tell.
>>84228288
Learn how to write, get a job at DC, create a new, interesting female character, have her be good enough for DC to assign a talented artist, and let the quality of your work speak for itself.
LIKE EVERY MALE CHARACTER HAS HAD TO DO FOR 77 YEARS.
>>84229484
ITT: wrong opinions.
>>84229121
That was a thing?
>>84229349
In what universe are they not? They're fucking ripped.
>>84229420
Even girls I know who are into anime prefer muscular dudes.
>>84229507
What is stopping americans from creating their own comic anyway?
>>84229507
Try actually reading more than the title next time.
>>84228343
Why does Danny look like David Carradine?
>>84229557
>They're fucking ripped
They're athletic normal. Fucking ripped would be Hulk-tier.
>Even girls I know who are into anime prefer muscular dudes
I'm a woman. anon, and myself and all my fellow anime-loving ladies do not generally prefer muscular dudes. I can make an exceotion if it's a strong warrior paired with a small very feminine guy, but that's not a primary interest.
>>84228709
> Assmeat = manly
Go read JoJo's mate
>>84229593
Some muscle is required by women obviously but too much (like in capeshit and bara both obviously aimed at homos) women just don't like.
>>84229653
that's not the fault of the characters... it's the fault of the writers.
>>84229653
if you took a good comic with male characters and replaced them all physically with hot female characters... the dialogue and plot are the same but the book is now better to me because i actually like what i'm looking at.
Examples of sexy men as drawn by women, 1
Notice how the men drawn by women are, even with muscles, significantly more slender and feminine than their male-drawn counterparts.
>>84229653
Aren't females a staple as protagonists I'm horror movies, especially slashers? Hong Kong has made the action heroine work for them.
>>84229698
Conspiracy theory: all women are secretly lesbian
>>84228288
>As a person who is into the females I would enjoy comics more without having to look at muscle dudes
SmutAnon can help you on that department.
And if you want to see girls, then try Manara. He has some pretty lez scenes
>>84229462
why are you getting so salty faggot?
>>84229698
2
>>84229733
too hairy
>>84228288
>Now that Marvel is garbage let's ruin DC too.
No.
>>84229747
3
Now for some examples of bara manga, which is by men for men - again notice the differences
I would not mind female super heroes/villains getting more focus.I just want them to focus on actual females that all ready exist and not have to turn men into women...
>>84229768
Even Chris writes better than Bendis and Oda
If there's a market then be the good you want to see.
If you can't then shut up.
If there's not a market then shut up.
>>84229653
>or Alien for Ripley
Woah, Ripley is one of the few legitimately well-written female action heroes in American cinema. Don't you be talking shit about my Ripley.And without her, we would never have Samus Aran.
Check out JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stone Ocean
The Jappos made a comic with a female lead who actually doesn't bore people to death.
>>84229774
1
>>84229734
your thinking is so ridiculous.
why would it be the character's fault? if you take that same female character and turned her into a male... is it better meow?
it's like you're saying that all female characters are bad because they have to be because they're female and not they're bad because the writers can't write.
if you want to look at ripped muscle dudes, just say so.
>>84228858
>How come americans draw this beefcake supposedly "for the ladies"
Because it's not for the ladies.
>>84229835
2
>>84228556
Wouldn't y-you?
>>84229879
well in that case just tell them to write a male character.. and then change it to a female later.
>>84229871
3
>>84229898
Then feminists will complain that it's just a male character that got turned into a female.
Like anon said, better to not bother with female leads.
>>84228798
>the problem with american comics is they're nothing but the same ugly capeshit franchise recycled over and over rather than create new stuff
There's more stuff out there than just capes, mate. Case and point, a comic that has good female characters in it, is Love and Rockets.
>If you want good comics with good male and female characters, read manga
Well, at least you say manga is comics.
>>84229879
How come the Japanese can write heroines fine?
>>84229920
Waifus are not compelling characters.
Just because you can fap to them doesn't make them interesting characters.
>>84229919
>Love and Rockets
Looked it up it looks like ugly indie shit. Why can't americans draw good like the japanese?
>at least you say manga is comics
They're both sequential art drawn on paper, but manga is much better paced and prettier than comics. When I read manga my eye follows the panel flawlessly, it's extremely fluid. When I read comics there's always some sort of stop moment, the panels don't flow as good, it feels slow and annoying.
>>84229932
You got a chip on your shoulder and you can't deny it.
>>84229909
now you lost me again. if the male character works... why wouldn't the female version? unless you don't like boobies. and you know what? the macho douchebag isn't a good character for males, either.
it's played out, homie.
>>84229916
no way. if somebody took all of say... the justice league... replaced all the drawings of males with pretty girls... that would be the best comic ever.
>>84229920
>Sailor Moon is garbage
Thanks for proving your shit taste.
>Waifus are not compelling characters
Your capeshits are not compelling characters. The sailor senshi are far more interesting characters than any capeshit crap. You have shit taste.
>>84229954
>>>tumblr
>>84229932
>global success adored by people of all gender and ages, inspiring figure for all girls
>anon is this butthurt
>>84229962
Meant for >>84229932 obviously.
>>84229972
i don't like or use tumblr, so...
how's it feel to be wrong?
>>84229825
Ripley was fantastic in both Alien and Aliens.
She's a perfectly relatable protagonist who's also more competent than any of the "badass" marines and corporate men she keeps company with, who also develops a motherly bond with Newt.
She's pretty badass and respectable actually.
>>84229962
>>84229932
Same person. Expand your vocabulary a bit.
>>84229999
Fuck off shit taste nigger, your ideas are shit and so is your taste.
>>84229989
if you can't take the same character as seriously because it looks female instead of male... then you have issues.
>>84229948
Listen, if you would give it a read, you would enjoy it. I'll also put down the recommendations of Alan Moore for you. He's an intelligent man who knows what he's talking about. There's got to be a comic here for you that you can enjoy. There's more than just capes out there, try Cerebus, Understanding Comics or Black Hole, try not to be so deluded. If you think the art for Love and Rockets has garbage art, read it, the paneling is simple and fluid and the story is great too.
>>84229932
Great we are being invaded by a/... Next you are going to tell me that Oda writes the best female characters and Android 18 is still useful in the new anime of dragon ball.
>>84229920
>>84229932
I like Sailor Moon and maybe it's because I never read the manga and I only really remember most of the original season (which is what I watched most recently) but Usagi herself is not that great of a protagonist. Whiny, ditsy, never seems to go into battle with an actual plan, kind of annoying actually.
>>84230024
>Alan Moore
Ew.
Listen, I have nothing against indie comics, save for the fact they're so ugly and so clunky, not that capeshit is better. Learn to draw and panel like the japanese first and maybe I'll give your stuff a shot. Right now you're unreadable.
The only comic by an american that I enjoy is Starfighter because Hamletmachine's style is fantastic and her panels are fluid to read, coincidence coincidence she's a huge manga fan too.
>>84230035
Usagi is the normal counterpart of Sailor Moon, she is to Sailor Moon as Clark Kent is to Superman. She is not annoying at all unless you hate yourself.
>>84230053
Come on, man. How do you know that the paneling and art are bad without reading them first? Are lot of them are fluid to read.
And what's so bad about Moore.
>>84230073
*?
Sorry, typo.
>>84230062
dude... if the girl has superpowers... like super strength... then why wouldn't it be intimidating?
and yah feminism... because for the last million years women have been horribly abused and it's still continuing today. and if you don't care about that then you're sick in the head and the world would be better off without you.
>>84230062
>that's what retarded neckbeards really believe
Don't like it? Don't read it
Instead, go watch the feminist shitfest known as Game of Thrones
>>84230073
I have read some Alan Moore already. I didn't like it. I feel no interest for the rest.
>>84230071
There's no real personality change between the two unlike Clark Kent and Superman though.
And she's also legitimately annoying.
>Cries and whines constantly even though at a certain point you feel like she should really just get with the program already
>>84230089
game of thrones
feminist...
>rape victim falls in love with her rapist... after winning him over by learning how to fuck better...
ugh, yah... *rolls eyes*
>>84230087
>Are you samefagging and pretending to have a conversation?
I'm bored, I have nothing to do. I want to talk to someone, man. Talking to myself would drive me insane. Even the fact that he is a troll means he'll reply to me. I'm just feeling a little lonely.
>I have read some Alan Moore already.
Which ones?
>>84230108
second part of reply goes to >>84230093
>>84230089
No, it's clearly propaganda that supports cool midgets and Charles Dance.
>>84230100
>There's no real personality change
Save for the fact Usagi is your average scaredy-cat while Sailor Moon is a brave warrior?
>And she's also legitimately annoying
No she is not. I've never found her annoying. If you legitimately annoying look at yourself.
>shitpost and whines about normal characters acting normally while whinig and shitting up threads
>>84230130
Shut up retarded neckbeard, you can't accept beloved female characters are popular and women are making comics for themselves. Are you a virgin?
>>84228343
LET'S
What are these plebs talking about?
>>84230130
how about trying to put yourself in their shoes?
you use the same kind of justifications that a rapist would use.
female on male abuse? don't make me laugh... that's nothing compared to male on female abuse... and if you don't know that then you have your head way up your ass living in some ridiculous delusion... so go to any women's shelter and you'll see people who have been through things your dumb little brain wouldn't be able to handle.
>>84230129
>Save for the fact Usagi is your average scaredy-cat while Sailor Moon is a brave warrior?
There is NO personalty change whatsoever between Usagi and Sailor Moon, at least in the earliest seasons.
I honestly don't know why you're all triggered over this. Even other characters practically call her out on it all the time.
>>84230166
>those characters are shit
Your favorites are shit.
>those comics are always shit
No anon, your favorite comics are always shit. Objectively shit.
>>84230176
>There is NO personalty change whatsoever between Usagi and Sailor Moon, at least in the earliest seasons
Save for the fact Usagi is your average scaredy-cat while Sailor Moon is a brave warrior?
Unless you're admitting Usagi's personality is far more complex then the shit you wrote and you are completely 100% wrong about it. Great job idiot.
>>84230116
I read some League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, some Watchmen, some Lost Girls. I found no interest in the first two and the last was just repulsive. Please accept I don't like Alan Moore and I feel no appeal for any of the stuff you suggested.
>>84230243
>I am a retarded troll with no taste: the post
>>84230207
>Save for the fact Usagi is your average scaredy-cat while Sailor Moon is a brave warrior?
Sailor Moon is a scaredy-cat too in the anime's early seasons though. She only really pulls through after encouragement from others or in rare climatic situations.
>>84230230
Okay. I'm sorry.
>>84230255
>Sailor Moon is a scaredy-cat too
Annulled by the fact she still fights, obviously there's development but if she were as you described she would not be in fights at all.
>She only really pulls through after encouragement from others
>What is character development guise
>>84228288
This topic is the easiest bait that I've seen on /co/ in weeks.
And it's actually creating interesting discussion. That's... Surprising.
>>84230274
But you are trolling, or you are legitimately retarded to have your shit wrong opinions.
>Learn an actual book
You read an actual book in your life you ignorant faggot.
>>84230302
>"hurr durr beloved good interesting works are shit because I hate women" is a interesting discussion
>>84230319
No anon you kill yourself. You're shitting up a thread for no reason other than shit trolling. Kill yourself.
>>84230326
Sailor moon is good and interesting by itself, and it is also far better and more interesting than any capeshit, that is the objective truth.
>>84228858
Late answer but teen girls lean toward pretty bishounen while older women prefer beefcakes. When we're young, manly men are too scary and 2big4u so we want something safe and pretty. As we age, we realize that we want big protectors to take care or us and our young. Also something about when women are ovulating they prefer masculinity over feminity.
It always varies per girl since personal history and culture may have an effect too. So if you see a pretty boy in a series, it's directed toward teens and some young adults whereas if you see baras with tits you can beat like a drum it's probably directed toward women and homos. God bless the male form.
>>84230339
>older women prefer beefcakes
/co/ keeps saying this, and yet I see grown women still prefer bishonen and biseinen dudes in anime and manga over cape comic beefcake.
>>84230299
Ask Full Metal Alchemist fans.
>>84230336
>>84230343
Wow this delusional troll sure is butthurt.
>>84230384
>N-NO U ;_;
Yeah that's what you've been repeating all thread, impotent tears streaming down your face just like I had pictured. Don't stare too much at the rope anon you might really kill yourself in utter self-disgust.
>>84230355
Like I said, personal history and culture can have an effect too. On the nipponise side of things, they mostly have been churning out more bishounen than bara so that was the go-to. But recently, muscles on men in anime and manga are becoming more popular. Free!, that one cheerleading boy anime, All Out, and others I don't know the titles of. The time of slutting out men is upon us and I love it.
>>84230412
>personal history and culture can have an effect too
I live in the west, I'm talking about western women, I've never been to Japan so I don't presume to know about them.
>Free
>muscles
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA they're literal ottermode twinks same as your picture, thanks for proving me right.
It'd be so easy to up the gal-quotient in the JLA.
Wondy, of course.
Mera in for Aquaman. The character is largely irredeemable for his powerset, Mera does everything Arthur brings to the table and more, her water-control power is actually useful in non-aquatic stories.
Vixen. Great character potential from both the writer and artist viewpoint. A hugely diverse powerset without being overpowering gives the writer plenty of space to work with, the artist can go crazy with "holographic" animal overlays as she uses her powers. Double score as a PoC woman.
Hawkwoman. The lingering impact of JLU still remains, nobody gives a crap about Hawkman.
Get Zatanna on the team. What are you doing with a Big League team without a magic-user on the roster?
A female Green Lantern would be beyond easy, and it doesn't feel like nothing but a Rule 63 where there are thousands of GLs. Not sure what I think of the Power Ring gal yet.
Starfire and/or Raven. We let the guy teen character grow up and "graduate" to the JLA, its time for more of the ladies to step up as well.
>>84230430
>It's amazing how this weeb faggot is too dumb to see and recognize irony
It's amazing how a trolling faggot like you can't see he's been completely destroyed.
>>84228288
You could try going outside of the Big 2. Perhaps a webcomic would be more your speed. There are many female lead cape comics out there on the web that don't shove politics in your face.
>>84230502
Why are you talking to me about >>84230384?
>>84230442
Personal history and culture applies to those in the west too. You were speaking about anime/manga over western comics within the west and so I gave an answer regarding some of the reasoning behind it.
> japan shits out nothing but pretty boys
> west loves it and eats it up because that's all they get.
Dude, boys in manga were twinky as fuck with little to no muscle definition unless it was a shounen for boys. The muscles being shown now is several steps up from what it used to be and it's getting bigger. Give it time.
>>84230523
Dude you're the one that started with your WAHH CAPESHIT GUD JAPSHIT BAD WOMEN BAD XDD incoherent raving. Are you so retarted you can't even follow a conversation? Try to keep up.
>thread is just people calling each other retards and faggots
>no attempt at meaningful discussion of opinions
>just using the bare minimum amount of effort required to not have completely meaningless opinions
stop, there's no need for this
>>84230547
> west loves it and eats it up because that's all they get
But that's not all the west gets, the west has capeshit too. If the west didn't churn out capeshit /co/ wouldn't exist. The west ignores the capeshit in favor of the pretty boys.
>Dude, boys in manga were twinky as fuck with little to no muscle definition unless it was a shounen for boys
Not at all. Stuff for women has had reasonably athletic men for decades as well as twinky boys, and the athletic are not getting bigger. If you want big muscles, you have to turn to stuff for gay men.
>>84230632
>you're so fucking dumb you can't even scroll up and read the posts in chronological order
Why are you accusing people of what you can't do yourself?
>That wasn't even something I said
At least you admit capeshit is shit.
>You went into incoherent raving mode
Why do you keep talking to others about yourself and the shit you do?
>>84230620
Tbh there's also twinky men and athletic boys. Still on the same side of the spectrum though.
I want /a/ to leave.
>>84230712
>he's so butthurt he can't stop replying, still babblering incoherently about his WAAAAAH N-NO U ;____; and still being butthurt that people like anime and manga better than his shit
>>84230733
>people like anime and manga better than his shit
>weebs
>people
Don't make me laugh.
>>84228288
Hey Op Try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqOLzuWWhMo
Best superhero film ever.
>>84230591
>where_do_you_think_you_are.png
>>84228288
Stop reading capeshit.
>>84230750
You mean shitposters like you are people? Retard please.
>>84230794
>unsuccessfully tries to spin the entire situation so it's the opposing side is the one who whines because they don't like what he likes
Yes that's what you've been doing all thread, get rekt idiot
>>84230794
>WAH I HATE WOMEN WHY DO YOU LIKE THESE COMICS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LIKE STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
>not whining
>this thread
>>84228288
Another thread which could have resulted in intelligent conversation has now declined into another /a/ vs /co/ thread.
Another day in a war without end.
I think it says a lot about /co/ that OP wanted just more well written female characters in the big 2, of which there are a blatant lack of, and people here were so uncomfortable with that that they just spammed muscle guys
Mods not doing their job again getting rid o this shit and banning everyone in this thread.
>>84229079
Barry Allen, or every character who is an everyman.
I can get why Batman or Superman are jacked. But explain me why everyone is instantly jacked when they put the costume.
I'm not talking about some body shaming crap (even if I could rant about how it's only bad when it comes to women)
I'm saying that it's not realistic and it actually could be interesting to have characters with several body types.
>>84231133
Yeah, it says /co/ is the gayest of all boards.
>>84231156
>people are sick of all the gurrl power sex swapping shitty female led comics that come out nowadays
>it's because you're gay!!
Seriously tumblr, it's time to go back home.
>>84231152
...then make you own no one is forcing you to read the big two or not self-publish.
>>84231178
>people are sick of all the gurrl power sex swapping shitty female led comics that come out nowadays
>woman-hating faggots
>people
Don't make me laugh, nigger.
>>84231181
i can't draw very good....
>>84231225
and? most webcomic artist can't dark for jack shit and they still push it out.
>>84231243
draw*
>>84231216
>he's a white knight faggot
Lowest of the low.
>>84231263
>hating women for no reason
>being mad when they make stuff for themselves and people like it
>not lowest of the low
>>84231225
Why the fuck are you answering for me?
>>84231181
It's not gonna prevent me from reading capeshit.
>>84231300
you know there are other capeshit companies out their right you fucking casual?
>>84231263
>implying you have sex
don't take this obvious bait...
lowest of the low... for defending women...
that's the most dirty, dispicable thing you could do...
please at least try to make some kind of point.
>>84231300
for the lols
>>84231285
/co/ likes plenty of female comic writers you just have selective bias
![JSA_Vol_1_81[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SyhqenA.jpg "JSA_Vol_1_81[1].jpg")
>>84229250
>I just want woman superhero with boy sidekick already.
How about girl with a man sidekick?
>>84229311
>woman with a girl
Batwoman and Bat-girl (the original ones)
Batwoman and Flamebird
>man with a girl
Batman and Robin (TDKR)
Knight and Squire (the second ones)
>>84228858
American women see beefcakes and think about how great they'll be as protectors.
Japanese women see beefcakes and think about how much harder they'll hit then Bishies
>>84231356
Who said anything about japanese women, retard?
>>84228870
Same shitty tropes.
>>84231391
Whining about "tropes" is nothing but the tumblr way of whining "stop liking what I don't like".
>>84229311
>man with a girl
Isn't that like half of Wolverine's stories?
![women[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LgypucC.jpg "women[1].jpg")
>>84228288
>Women for ants
If only somebody had thought of all those things before
oh wait they did
>>84231781
>but that's an old comic
yeah you're right, too bad they didn't try to do it again recently
oh wait, they did
>>84231781
If these old comics weren't all so fucking ugly maybe they could have been successful like Mahou Shoujo.
>>84231809
>>84231802
And that goes for the new ones too, still plagued by ugliness.
Why do girls love Sailor Moon and other mahou shoujo then?
>>84231809
>>84231834
>weab ass niggas
>>>/a/
>>84231318
What's does this have to do with the fact that there is only one male body type in capeshit?
Instead of trying to look smart, use your brain and try to understand what you read
>>84231978
because you're obviously don't read much cape shit and just shitposting
unless you're saying beastboy has the same physic as superman or batman
>>84231216
Uhh, racist and sexist much?
>>84228288
yeah, let's change the succesful story and add more womyn to it. just read strong female protagonist the comic, you faggot
>>84229835
Well, that was an amusing little comic.
>>84228309
Oh god not this shit
>>84228288
There's one thing about female characters that EVERYONE seems to get wrong, being the SJWs, the most current writers, and even female writers themselves strugle with.
It's that when writing females, the writers always focus on that part: that there females. They focus on this way too much when they should instead focus on the fact that they are people. This is why I like Powergirl despite the fact that she's obviously a female, I think her character acts the most like a regular girl--be it her sexuality, male yet female behavior, and emotional depth.
>>84232273
Writer here.
I always just write my female characters like men. Not even memeing. I write them exactly as I would a write a man and so far nobody who reads my comic has noticed or at least said anything.
>Comics are too dude centric.
Oh I wonder why. It might have something to do with comics being published, written, bought, and promoted almost exclusively by men for about 70 years now.
Sage
There are two girls.
>Women
Wonder Woman
Jessica (Power Ring)
>Men
Superman
Batman
Cyborg
Aquaman
Flash
Baz
>>84228798
Manga is constantly recycled bullshit, as well. Literally the same shit over, and over again.
>>84228578
Because the mental and taste overlap between the female audience and the under 13 audiences is diminishing daily.
>>84232798
LOL
>>84228288
If you're too gay to even look at a bicep without popping a boner, then maybe it's you who should deal with your own shit instead of forcing your bullshit on the rest of the world, you closet homosexual.
>>84232850
That wasn't meant to be funny.
I'm just thinking that like, Hellcat's writing and art would've made more sense in a Marvel Adventures book than anything else.
>mods didn't delete the weeb shitposting
Mod purge when?
>>84233268
Came off as so, so condescending. I loved it.
>>84233582
Hey, the books are already condescending. I'm just pointing it out.
>>84232043
Because ripped slim man is so much different of heavy jacked man.
Beast Boy is definitely muscular
>>84228288
I can't wait for the All-New Justice league said no one ever!!!
>>84232273
>>84232356
Writer here as well, but not for comics. I probably noticed. Can you tell me a character you wrote?
>>84233704
>Because ripped slim man is so much different
yes? yiu don't epect people fighting supervillains and saving lives not to be jacked?
