wwizards edition
>>83857469
Eridan sort of disappointed me as a character. I always thought his plans to kill the lowbloods were ironic and that he wasn't actually unstable.
Goddammit why are there two threads.
>>83857462
>>83857524
Lack of coordination on an anonymous message board.
>>83857524
Stop shilling your thread, the reply counts have proven that Eri thread is best thread.
>>83857524
They were made within 20 seconds of each other that's why. I vote for this one.
>>83857506
I disagree - I thought that the whole "higher blood castes are prone to violent behavior and such" turning out to be true was pretty cool, and was one of the few alien things about the trolls that remained that way.
>>83857648
You're the Anon who never read Harry Potter but had each House described to them in 2 adjectives, right?
other thread is kill, eridan thread master race
>>83857648
why is homestuck so full of weenies
>>83857665
>"higher blood castes are prone to violent behavior and such"
When was this ever brought up? I don't remember hearing that anywhere.
>>83857648
STOP DOING THIS.
Plus Gamzee should be in the Griffen thing.
>>83857524
I deleted it.
>Pages are autistic
I don't believe it. Tavros and Horuss aren't autists.
![1466195495592[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/fJ7p0YY.png "1466195495592[1].png")
Did anyone post this in leddit yet?
Speculation on Bard of Void. I can't make two bits of sense about how this classpect works.
>>83857648
This SO is clearly bullshit in its entirety
>>83857729
It's funny to me how wrong you are.
>>83857729
What is this image depicting? Vriska accidentally mixing sugar with her daily breakfast of pure salt?
>>83857758
they are weenies and believe they are taking hard drugs and not just sugar
>>83857648
>Caliborn
>Not in Gryffindor
>>>/ic/2560186
>>83857648
Where did you get these sprites from?
Is it justifiable to not redeem some characters who are total weenies?
Guys, what is this whole stff you were saying that Kanaya had sex with Karkat to make the forge work?
>>83857921
He cried while it was happening
>>83857740
you allow the destruction of nothing, or allow destruction through nothing.
if you want to get metaphorical, void is censorship and secrets, so a bard of void makes it so whoops everyone's spilling their hentai out of their sleeves and whoops everyone's just bugging everyone else out, destroying secrets, destroying through secrets, now everyone's fighting because person A: likes futa and person B: likes straight shota.
on the other hand, literal void destruction, you're right, i have no fucking idea.
>>83857697
I'll be perfectly honest - without going back and finding the exact page for you, I couldn't tell you whether that was stated canon or just heavily supported theory. I just remember it being stated "somewhere" that the higher you go up the caste system, the more violent / psychotic / tyrannical and so on you get.
I mean compare Tavros, Aradia, Nepeta, and Karkat to Vriska, Equius, murderstuck Gamzee, and Eridan.
Feferi was a noted exception because she rejected the tyranny, and even then I think there were plenty of examples where she snapped at people. Equius I think mentioned how Gamzee was a disgrace for not being more violent and tryannical. And Equius himself stated he would be far worse if it wasn't for Nepeta.
One thing I never did figure out was the difference between the sea trolls and land trolls. Are the sea trolls literally the highest two castes (with Feferi being the only one of her color?). How many Eridans were out there in the ocean in order to make an actual rivalry between the two races?
>>83857953
Yeah, but out of nowhere they had to have sex for the forge to work?
>>83857921
No, we said Jade had sex with DAVE to relight the forge
>>83857993
the forge is really just a giant penis and skaia's an egg
>>83857988
Pretty sure it's fact.
>>83857740
>>83857969
Homebrew Anon here, when I get around to it I'm planning to make it a Gravity Well function.
Because you're passively inviting the destruction of "Nothing," you are destroying the voids between you and your target. They can't escape because slowly you're gravitating towards them.
>>83858010
So, forge needs sex to work?
... I'm okay with that!
>>83858022
>the tadpole is a sperm
>the battlefield is an egg
>>83857988
Aradia is pretty violent. I mean her Zodiac sign is Aries for crying out loud. It doesn't seem heavily supported to me when we'd only seen 12 trolls at that point. It must have been a fandom theory because I read the comic for the first time recently and the Eridan murders completely blindsided me.
>>83858029
Do you remember which Act it was mentioned in?
Karkat's feet.
>>83858058
yes
"breeding duties" can be taken three ways
Hey.
So part one of a beach fic epilogue got posted on pastebin, somewhere.
I think you guys should go read it.
>>83858042
That works too, although it could also equally apply to a Bard of Space.
>>83857988
There's also the ancestors backstory, where the reason why Alternia now holds only children who are drafted off-planet into the army when they reach enlistment age is because The Summoner got fed up with the highblood domination and rallied his own army of lowbloods in revolution.
>>83858067
they smell :x
I made a tumblr for the artwork I've done - a couple of people were asking if there was anywhere where they could see the lands I've drawn, so now there is.
http://paradoxlands.tumblr.com/
>>83858042
prince of space needs to be able to do something like the handsomeone comparing prince of space to za hando a few years back is actually how i got into jojo
>>83858058
He didn't see that one coming.
>>83857988
There's a bunch of Eridans out there in the ocean. He even kills one and its lusus. You have to remember that they live for hundreds of years, like Elves.
>>83858138
Yea I have no idea what The Hand is capable of because I haven't seen Jojo. Mind explaining what this Stand does?
>>83858064
http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Troll
Think it's said in here. I'm a little busy so I can't do it myself.
>>83858138
yeah that's one of the comparisons i agree with, the prince of space can 100% do the hand
>>83858166
it's so weird that trolls hit maturity at the same age and yet have such radically different lifespans
okay so i finished this davejade fic, where am I supposed to paste it?
Is it even safe, is the davekat janitor around?
>>83858203
completely erases whatever its right hand hits when it's swung
this includes the space between objects, meaning it can be used to drag things towards you or drag yourself towards things
>>83858064
http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Hemospectrum
You'll have to find comic links yourself, but the "Biological Aspects" section of this mentions that it was Equius who gave us the highblood = more murderous lore.
>>83857841
http://nepeta.mozai.com/shippingwall2.91.swf
Have fun.
>>83858251
>You'll have to find comic links yourself
You mean the wiki doesn't have a link to the comic for me? Man that's totally useless to me then. I don't trust uncited comments on the wiki. Thanks for trying to be helpful though.
>>83858064
Aradia haunted Vriska with spooky ghosts since she crippled her friend.
It was only when she got a robot body filled with Equius's blue crazy blood that she actually flies over and beats Vriska to death / rips out her own heart / bangs Equius.
>>83858117
You mean as a means of creating a land / sea rivalry, or just demonstrating the differences in the castes?
>>83858166
It just seems weird that Eridan considers himself nobility if he's one in thousand, and still thinks he can take out the nobility of Gamzee's and Equius' bloodcastes (not to mention all the rest of them).
>>83858244
Too early, you can post it now probably
postem
>>83858244
Also, people use pastebins and archiveofourown
You can post in one of those.
>>83858332
http://pastebin.com/GLyPi8dP
Alright. Dave/Jade, baby cuteness
no idea how well i did on this one, was kind of awkward to write
>>83858345
>>83858245
Okay thanks. I read a bit about it and I don't think the Prince of Space's abilities would have this feature though: "It should also be noted that space erasure also gives surrounding objects an unexplained force pushing them towards the center of the eliminated space while the said void is being filled by the surrounding dimension."
That doesn't make sense for the Prince of Space in my opinion since it doesn't make much sense in terms of physics.
>>83858404
yeah, but the prince of space can teleport himself towards things or teleport things towards him by destroying the space between them.
>>83858404
What matters is Prince of Space, like all space players, get to have sex!
>>83858329
>It just seems weird that Eridan considers himself nobility if he's one in thousand
For an entire planet? Nobility isn't the same as royalty. It does seem like they'd be majorly outnumbered, though.
>>83858329
Demonstrating that the highbloods were oppressive, violent and malicious enough to motivate the Nitram of the time into fighting back. The lowbloods presumably just sat there and took it until he stepped up; if the lowbloods were equally susceptible to violent tyrannical tendencies then there probably wouldn't have been the power imbalance in the first place, they would have fought back immediately.
>>83858446
> Prince
> breeding duties
"I'M GONNA WRECK IT!"
>>83858446
Now I'm excited.
>>83858389
acceptable
>>83858389
not bad at all
>>83858435
>teleport himself towards things or teleport things towards him
Wouldn't it be literally both at the same time? There should be no way to differentiate between the two if I'm understanding this ability, because all the frames of reference are destroyed.
>>83858529
Why aren't these sluts barefoot?
>>83858477
There was the whole spiel about how the empresss used the seadwellers to get in conflict with the highbloods then had then focus on the caste below them, plus the nuclear option of gluby
>>83858332
Wow, is that really a thing people get banned for?
>>83858555
Yes.
Even if it's SFW
>>83858530
True. Maybe it's a gravitational thing - the distance along a line they are is relative to their mass, so a prince trying to teleport himself to a clone will end up halfway, but a prince trying to teleport himself to a grain of sand will just pull the sand along and nudge him a little.
>>83858389
alright so now where's the petplay one
>>83858555
Yeah, it's happened to me a few times.
Really sucks
>>83858107
Got a link?
>>83858064
>. I mean her Zodiac sign is
NO
NO
CUT THAT SHIT OUT
>>83858601
I'll work on it later, for now just enjoy the puppy one
>>83858609
Yo, waht's this Ave Breath story in your pastebin supposed to be in the future? ProspitcestX4? John/Jade?
>>83857648
I don't understand why you fucks always put Gamzee in Slytherin. Just because he's a bad guy doesn't make him Slytherin material.
For that matter, Damara as well. Slytherin is the AMBITION house. If you serve bad guys and just generally chill, you do not belong in the AMBITION house. Eridan goes there as well, the Draco wannabee.
Jane probably gets sorted there as well, even if she doesn't do much.
John is an Aries
What does it mean???
>>83858613
I get banned for links.
google "Shenaniganon pastebin", I'm there
>>83858666
Arajohn canon
>>83858672
Fuck I forgot that was actually a thing that happens now, christ it's stupid.
>>83858664
How is Gamzee not extremely ambitious? He's very Slytherin. He would do anything for his religion.
>>83858664
Crabbe and Goyle were useless minions, and they went there
>>83858672
Isn't posting in blackie spoiler tags enough to avoid getting banned?
>>83858666
N O T H I N G
O
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>>83858389
>DAVE: main thing is that they laugh at anything if you say it in the right tone of voice
>DAVE: watch
>DAVE: communism
>DANA: ehehehe
>DAVE: see
>JADE: thats a terrible example though! everyone even babies know that communism is a total joke
nice
>>83858708
One day things will be better. For now post some DaveJade.
>>83858666
>>83858664
The idea of Gamzee getting sorted into Slytherin before going sober and everyone wondering how the fuck this chill, friendly stoner ended up there is too good to pass up.
>>83858714
He's really just a puppet for LE. He has no free will.
>>83858630
The trolls are inspired by their zodiac signs, whether you like it or not. It's clear in every single case.
>>83858658
Its the basic idea for a Post-SBURB set of fics I've been kicking around. SFW and not terribly shippy outside of John/Roxy but c'mon that
s a gimme. The first story will be mostly Prospit kid funtimes, including John and Jane's prank war John and Jake going on a National Treasure-inspired adventure.
>>83858723
hahahaha....
no.
>>83858064
>her Zodiac sign is Aries
So that's why she's constantly on fire and usually the person to initiate action, vibrant and full of life.
Don't invoke the astrology game if you don't know the rules, c'mon. that'd be like if I said "well the name is Park so it's no wonder you get $200 every time you walk past."
>>83858389
can you please make a pastebin account
so i can see all godstuck
>>83858744
>>83858251
Actually that was really helpful after all.
>>83858745
>>83858664
The problem with Gamzee is it's not clear what he's actually like. Is his ruthless, subjuggulator side actually how he would have acted without sopor or without LE's existence? Or was he actually chilled out, aided by the sopor slime to comedic levels and his situation as a purple blood forcing the ruthlessness and aggression on him.
>>83858798
source me source me say that you'll source me
>>83858762
What? Please explain. I'm under the impression that he did everything of his own free will. Kurloz certainly never used his powers to control him.
>>83858769
aradia is full of life
>>83858744
Can't say no to that I suppose.
>>83858769
>Look at me I can cherrypick so I must be right
>>83858766
Yes they are. They still don't follow actual astrology tho. Sure you can hamfist it in there but Hussie did not make the comic with that in mind. He's a nerdy white virgo all too preoccupied with real things like equations n systems n shit.Oh and ruining a comic.
>>83858784
delete this!!!!
>>83858821
They're both just conduits to LE. Nothing more nothing less.
>>83858767I've seen a few stream and mega links that were untouched by putting a break midway through the link, but for a pastebin link I suppose an informed post about any updates would be the safer option.
>>83858784
>filename
Hurtful.
Ah yes
An entire volume of banal remixes phoned in by tired has-beens capitalizing on a comic they stopped reading ages ago
Volume 10 is everything this series deserves as a musical sendoff
>>83858897
It's true
And I usually find out it's right
Like maybe someone out there isn't a bad person but when you say that to me at that point you're basically fighting an uphill battle
Look at this boy's slutty feet. He's showing them off for the world!
>>83858459
Yeah, that makes sense. I guess there was always a disconnect between how "noble /royal" Equius and Gamzee was as compared to Eridan (Feferi is a given of course). Although now I just imagine several hundred Eridans all vying for the attention of Feferi. No wonder she wanted to bail out of that for some mustard dick.
>>83858477
True, especially considering the frequency of psychic abilities among lowbloods. They were more sane, which seems to be almost a detriment in Scratch designed Alternia.
>>83858268
I need to make one of these, because I have serious Condy shipping issues.
>>83858816http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1433204#search=aradia_megido%20equius_zahhak
>>83858904
>banal
I'm really surprised that that's how you feel.
>>83858803
that's like asking what your personality would be like without any of the external factors that influenced the development of your personality
>>83858926
WHY IS HE PINK
>>83858922
Davepeta meant that Davesprite's psyche got to reach a point of happiness.
>>83858926
stealing karkat's shoes so he has to go barefoot forever!
>>83858777
http://pastebin.com/u/cornCascader
How's that?
Most of the stuff is just fluff with some john/roxy, dave/jade, and karkat/kiwi
>>83858884Tried the break. Got the post deleted and an off-topic warning.
This stopped being about Da Rules a long time ago
>>83858345
I think there were more ships, but I forgot what they were so whatever
>>83858784
B-but anon...!
>>83847434
>>83850471
Alright, I'll see what I can get done now/later tonight!
>>83858857
>hussie
>virgo
>look it up
>he's born one day (and 12 years) before me
what the FUCK
>>83858974
I want to do this!
![dm6l0PW[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/LYi1Nfs.gif "dm6l0PW[1].gif")
Not even Porrim is safe from the black designs
>>83858721
That's because by that point in time Slytherin had literally become "the evil house", and both were descendants of Death Eaters. While you could argue that Gamzee's blood would put him in a "pureblood" esque position, we're really talking purely personality here.
>>83858708
Devotion =/= Ambition. Tell me, what is Gamzee's endgame? He doesn't have one. He goes around the timeline doing whatever the fuck because who knows? He serves English, sure, but that's it. He serves. He follows. And occasionally he kills.
>>83858959
Too bad Davesprite was basically destroyed and ceased to be in exchange for that.
See this is the thing, the people who like Davepeta clearly don't give a shit about Davesprite. They care in the most shallow way. Who cares if he had an unsatisfying superficial ending, it was still a happy one!
>>83858985
>DAVEKAT
DELETE THIS
>>83858803
But we DO see him without any notable influences multiple times in Act 6. Look at how Gamzee acts in the Alpha Session, or how Gamzee acts during Caliborn's Intermission.
Murderous or not, he's still pretty chill.
>>83858945
Well, when those factors include poisonous slime that melts your brain at the cost of sedating oneself, the powers of a near-omnipotent being with mind-influencing powers and magical alien blood that makes you more inclined to both aggression, violence, subjugation and with an affinity for clown themed religious zealotry then I think it's a fair question to ask what the person is like when they're not influenced by these things in an AU setting where they wouldn't be present. Especially as we're not shown what he's like without being under one such of these effects. So I think it's a tad different than what you're implying.
>>83859009
Well I like Davepeta and I cared a lot about Davesprite. I was still happy to see him fused with Nepetasprite.
>>83857648
Is this loss
>>83858975
Nice
I recommended you to make it so you can post new stuff just by referring to the account so you don't get banned for posting links
>>83858985
>Leprechauns experiencing relationships in troll quadrants
>>83858985
>meowrails
>solara
>equara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O3dAz2j1cg
>>83859068
I'm not sure how I do that
>>83858985
As I mentioned in response to my own post, I think I made up my mind in that I'd like her symbol to be painted crudely on her bandages.
>>83858981
Fuck, well shucks that sucks. Hopefully it's just a temporary thing I guess.
>>83859009
People like Davepeta because they think Davepeta acts cute.
Actually, Davepeta's personality is actually spot on as to how people who would like Davepeta would act like. So I suppose there's a degree of self-insertion as well.
I heard AH once said that huge boobed Vriska was canon as a joke. Does anyone have some info on that or a link for me? It sounds really interesting.
>>83859080
Namefag i guess and mention it being on pastebin
like shenaniganon does
>>83859062
...shit it might be
Karkat painting his toenails.
>>83858345
where can i find the app/website for this?
>>83859025
It's Hussie's fault for making it canon. Before Vriskagram, the Love Diamond of Pain was just the periphery.Then he trashed the Terezi ships goddammit
Also now I remember that Davepeta x Jasprose should be on there
>>83859035
Isn't he still under the influence of LE, given that was the same Gamzee from Murderstruck? He'd been influenced through Lil'Cal in both the pre/post retcon timeline before changes were made right? So I don't think we can tell if he ever stops being under that mind-altering influence. Also, I'd argue that Gamzee was just a plot device and cloun-joke at that point.
>>83859103
I'd rather not namefag, I just don't make these enough
>>83859093
>Davepeta's personality is actually spot on as to how people who would like Davepeta would act like.
I don't act like Davepeta at all either. I hate being ironic.
>>83859093
>>83859093
>Actually, Davepeta's personality is actually spot on as to how people who would like Davepeta would act like
Autistic?
>>83859093
>Actually, Davepeta's personality is actually spot on as to how people who would like Davepeta would act like.
Just another reason to despise davepeta fans
Aradia's what?
Wait how does this confirm Vriska for Hiveswap?were you perhaps japing?
i want to tie terezi down and fuck her until she calls me master
>>83859175
hair
>>83859121
GRIS leads me to miscellaneousrenaissant's tumblr. Is that the original artist?
Also what's the Love Diamond of Pain? Terezi/Dave/Gamzee/Karkat?
>>83859175
a BORING SHITTY CHARACTER
>>83859141
So does Davepeta, I don't see your point.
So for a while he becomes flashy and hyperactive and nothing's challenging anymore.
He just starts barreling over mushrooms and leaping over pits as fast as he can, then gets to the end and jumps on the flagpole and that's it. Mario "wins".
But the point is, he didn't really win. That magic star was actually devastating to his development as a human being.
>>83859152
Davepeta is only half autistic. They're actually pretty well-adjusted considering how neurotic Davesprite was.
>>83859072
Shoosh, the only leprechaun there is Crowbar and hearts is a legitimate charm. And canon shows that carapacians can do black romance
>>83859205
it's irony bro
>>83859175
slutty fucking feet
>>83859182
They were Jakeing yes. I was initially confused, too, because it wasn't that funny. Still appreciate the scans though.
>>83859240
did somebody mention slutty rustblood feet
>>83859175
crave for the D -->
>>83859175
Cereal!
>>83859229
Yea but spades isn't. I just think the Droog ship should be <3.
>>83858975
Your stuff is very cute.
Now write horrible fetish porn.
>>83859205
Except it wasn't devastating. He reached a point of inner peace and didn't do anything hurtful to anyone, unlike the Tricksters.
>>83859269
love me..........
>>83859260
i want totouchthem
>>83859279
People asked for a davejade petplay fic so I've got that next
>>83859204
Davepeta loves entry level irony. You're completely wrong.
>>83859290
The monologue wasn't about harming other people, bro.
>>83859300
unfortunately she's not a foot fetishistunless the person she's disguised as is. gotta keep up appearances
BEHOLD
>>83859201
Yeah, that's where it's from.It's me haha
The Love Diamond of Pain is what I call Terezi/Dave/Jade/Karkat on the shipping chart.One of these days I need to find/draw a pic with all four of them
>>83859324
It wasn't devastating to his development. He got to achieve his ultimate self.
>>83859322
Entry level. They like "irony", but their personality isn't actually composed of irony a la Dave, Davesprite, or Dirk.
>>83859349
Thanks for drawing all that stuff for /hst/! It was really good and nice of you. Classpect Anon posts that Bateman daily.
>>83859355
You're being deliberately obtuse.
>But the point is, he didn't really win. That magic star was actually devastating to his development as a human being.
>WHY.
>Because he skipped over many critical trials on his spiritual journey.
>Mario NEEDS to stomp on all those mushrooms. He NEEDS to bonk those bricks with his head, for the sake of his personal growth.
>By using the star, he is denying himself many powerful moments of catharsis.
Read it again. Hussie is lecturing on the meta level.
>>83859346
>johnkat
Die.
>>83859389
Yes I do, and don't you fucking forget it.
>>83859260
draw her smothering my face with them
>>83859359
Yes, and I'm saying that I like Davepeta and don't like irony, hence demonstrating a way that I, a Davepeta fan, does not feel that Davepeta is my self insert.
>>83859391
>You're being deliberately obtuse.
No. I'm actually trying to understand you, but still think that you're fundamentally wrong. All the doomed Daves completed those critical trials. Since he is a sprite squared, he has all their memories. He accomplished all the trials across many timelines. Do you understand how the ultimate self thing works? He did bonk those bricks on his head, it's just that many of the bricks were bonked by other Daves.
AT LONG LAST
I SHALL FUCK THE GENESIS FROG IN ITS FULLY FORMED STATE
BILIOUS SLICK IS MY FLESHLIGHT
THE UNIVERSE IS MY ONAHOLE
NO ONE ESCAPES THE WHITE MILES
>>83859464
I won't deny that Hussie might've been thinking that to justify Davepeta, but if you don't think that's fucking dumb then I don't see us agreeing any on anything.
>>83859474
GET 8ACK HERE!!!!!!!!
What if Hussie didn't make a kickstarter?
>>83859511
Squaresprites are uniquely qualified for the ultimate self thing, though.
>>83859464
if you don't like irony why do you like a character that only exists as an ironic joke
>>83859205
BRAVO HUSSIE
R
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>>83859511
Well at least you don't still think I'm being deliberately moronic.
>>83859464
But that's silly in the context of a story.
Ultimately, what development we don't see is irrelevant. Otherwise, why show us anything? It doesn't matter that they progressed if they progressed behind the curtains.
>>83859395
Ah, allow me to clarify. This is just a Condy fuck/hate circle. No intermingling here barring some handiness during love/hate orgies.
>>83859564
>Otherwise, why show us anything?
So that you get to know that it happened, even if you don't see it happen. That has value to some people.
>>83859423
if i could i would. i mean i have a picture where you can see her in socks if you'd like that.
>>83857779
kill it
>>83859542
Best case scenario, it only serves as justification from the perspective of the character. On the level of the narrative it's only a detriment.
>>83859550
You really think Hussie intended the character as an ironic joke? I feel very strongly that he considered them to be a deeply spiritual character that went with his gnostic motifs.
>>83859605
yes. post it.
>>83859606
8==D < I cannot do it.
>>83859593
But that's bad storytelling, no matter how much meta "unconventional storytelling" you throw in it.
Stories aren't just a beginning and an end, they're a middle. And the middle is by far the most important part. It's the struggles, the victories, the progress that gets the plot and characters from point A to point B. That's all the stuff that makes us give a shit, the stuff that gives us the context we need to understand what's happening.
You can't cut that out and expect to have well rounded characters.
>>83859606
but its too kawaii
>>83859646
>>83859658
prepare for disappointment and a noncanon ship
>>83859291I probably would. I'm pretty lonely myself.
>>83859672
You wanted him to show every character smash every brick? The webcomic would be 5 times as long. It's already the longest human-made webcomic in the world by a lot.
>>83859742
no one's saying that hussie didn't write himself into a corner and set up expectations that he had no chance of reaching
>>83859672
To be fair, Davesprite wasn't going anywhere. He basically wrote himself out of the story.
>>83859742
>It's already the longest human-made webcomic in the world by a lot.
Yeah, because a large majority of its "pages" are wordless gifs. When will this meme stop?
I can't believe you're trying to pawn off the "ultimate self" bullshit as good storytelling either. It's a blatant narrative spit in the face.
>>83859669
do as I MOTHERFUCKIN SAY and kill the low
>>83859776
Well I guess I'm saying then that I think it's fine that he didn't show every character solve all their problems, even though I'm still in the "where is the rest of the character development this ending sucks" boat. Davesprite is one of the characters that I can understand not showing every trial and tribulation for on his journey to mental well-being.
>>83859796
That's because you're trying to apply it as an objective truth. The only person it applied to is the only person who said it.
>>83859742
Every brick? No. The relevant bricks necessary for that one, successful Mario to progress and conquer the challenges put in front of him, yes. It's not a bad thing to want to see clear character development for characters we're invested in as readers; as opposed to just a magic star situation that Davepetasprite is that somehow brushes over the individual issues of not one, but two characters with vastly different challenges, issues and aspirations.
>>83859796
>When will this meme stop?
It's the longest in terms of text too, asshat.
>>83859811
I think it would have been better to show that Davesprite's journey is still ongoing than to gloss over his issues by altering his personality. The former approach is at least honest.
>>83859291
ayyy
>>83859821
So you're saying that you want to see every character that the readers were invested in as much as Davesprite or more break every relevant brick necessary for each of them to progress and conquer the challenges put in front of them? Do you acknowledge that there are a large number of characters that the readers were invested in as much as Davesprite and that this would still be an enormous number of bricks?
>>83859742
Yes, I did.
Homestuck really isn't that big, it's just bloated. There are stories with more complex plots, more characters, more developed characters (not hard), and higher quality than Homestuck.
Homestuck is bloated. It's bloated with pages and pages of bullshit. Long strands of bullshit tied into string, making an elaborate quilt of more bullshit.
Which is alright, that's what we're here for, until it's the endgame and there are maybe three characters with finished character arcs.
>>83858435
Yeah but to contest this I would like to point out that "space" as in things between physical objects is kind of voids thing, as in emptiness.
The Aspect of Space is more about physical objects and their properties. So while the Prince of Space can definitely destroy anything he can with nuclear punches (Splitting Atoms anybody?) I think that in terms of The Hand that the Prince of Void gets the awesome jojo reference.
>>83859878
>There are stories with more complex plots
Name 5.
>>83859389
No problem! I was sort of on vacation so I had time to draw a lot haha. Plus overall denial that the comic is "almost" finished
>>83859906
1-Teletubbies
2-Backyardians
3-Nannalan
4-Pingu
5-Shaun the Sheep
>>83859923
Did Porrim canonically fuck every troll in her session besides Cronus? I was half asleep during Openbound.
>>83859968
I don't know, it doesn't matter. You shouldn't even acknowledge it and act like that shit was worth thinking about
>>83859968
Except Cronus and Kankri.
>>83859941
Homestuck has a very complex plot, with a lot of foreshadowing and themes that are interwoven together almost from the beginning, and brilliantly executed twists. This is obviously a shitpost meant to bash the comic, but it's complete bullshit and only implies that you couldn't name even a single work of fiction more complex than Homestuck.
>>83859989
You hate the dancestors? I think they're pretty cool.
>>83860043
They're boring, their entire story is provided to us in exposition, and they're just basically walking jokes.
>>83859893
i can work with that, if only to make the prince of void less useless than "making things not exist" and "making things exist"
>>83859700
for the curious, it was recently made canon that a: Arctis prototyped her kernalsprite with a bathtub full of mixed troll blood and a small piece of her high blooded giant huskie lusus that hated her, and b: Troll Patrick Bateman prototyped it with a suit and tie, because, of course he did. (and a computer, post-entry)
>>83859968
Cronus included. I dunno why, maybe she wanted to taste the blood
>>83860087
Dude if I could explain what a fucking powerhouse the Prince of Void is with fistkind in the homebrew without explaining how everything works I would.
>>83859811
>>83859877
Not every character has to solve every problem, certainly not main characters who have a rather large collection of issues to confront in a short space of time. Or the converse less prominent secondary and tertiary characters who should primarily support the main cast. Yes, not every secondary or teriary character should get a prominent character arc as main characters should, but if they are presented as having an arc then it should be treated as such, they should change and we as the viewer should see those changes, even if they're only minor in comparison to the main cast.
The problem is that it's taken to the other extreme, in that many of both sets of characters just do nothing with their challenges and goals. That's a huge issue from a narrative stand point as the transformation of characters from the beginning of the story to the end is a huge part of the what a piece of work has to show to be adhering to what one could consider good storytelling. Hence the issues people have with numerous characters not progressing. For secondary character we don't have to see the full stretch of their block-breaking journey, but we do have the see the relevant ones from their beginning, middle and end if they are presented as having these challenges and goals that meaningfully interact with either the story or the main characters.
Davepsprite was a prominent secondary character that influenced some of the main cast and their stories heavily, given the large challenge his very existence assigned to him. He was one of the few well handled secondary cast and it's understandable that people would want to see his important progression in the story that leads to an appropriate ending. Instead we get an accident that somehow absolves him of all those challenges he was facing, it's a magic fix at its worst. That's the part I take offence to.
>>83859893
I don't like that interpretation, because air isn't empty. It should still be in the domain of Space.
>>83860113
so far it's pretty canon that void players just innately get fistkind and super strength. i have no idea why but thanks hussie, it at least makes things kind of interesting.
>>83857648
Only did the Kids and trolls (no dancestors)
How shitty is it?
>>83860140
why do people pretend to like hufflepuff?
>>83860136
When is Roxy shown exhibiting super strength? I don't remember seeing her actually attack anything other than when she kills the Condesce.
>>83860009
homestuck has a lot of moving parts so it is complex in that sense, but it lacks cohesion. Behind every plot twist you can see the seams, and there are many occasions when events and especially themes will directly contradict what came before. So I would hesitate to say that Homestuck is complex in a good way. I don't believe that the complexity is masterfully crafted.
On the side of good examples I would probably propose some kind of political epic like Lord of the Rings or Legend of the Galactic Heroes. These stories are less cerebral but at the same time they are no less complex than Homestuck because they involve many, many characters and events while maintaining a strong sense of cohesiveness.
>>83860075
You mean they're like... Teenagers?
>>83860170
Hufflepuff is literally bros
>>83860140
What app/website are you using for this stuff, my friends?
>>83860174
Mom, who is considered by "the system" to be the same as Roxy, punched an ogre's lights out.
>>83860201
See: >>83858268
>>83860176
Neither of those are anywhere as close to complex as Homestuck is. I think we have different understandings of what the word "complex" means.
>>83860194
Yes. Doesn't excuse their awfulness.
