Mother's Day edition.
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>>82581186
so who was Anakin's father?
>>82581252
George Lucas.
>>82581186
>Mother's Day edition.
YWN impregnate Ahsoka
Is Maul the Rickety Cricket of Star Wars?
>>82581252
Darth Plagueis
He used midichlorians to impregnate Shimi.
>tfw just finished Rebel S2
>tfw Ahsoka trying to appeal to Anakin's humanity
My heart broke.
When is S3?
>>82581229
Rey or the Rathtar?
>>82581405
>mfw that's my fetish
>>82581408
This fall. Probably November-ish. Alot of folks are hoping we'll get a special sometime this summer.
>>82581186
How are you guys spending Mothers Day?
I'm taking both my parents out to eat at a fancy restaurant.
Reminder who Snoke is
>>82581456
I'm going to do what I do every Mother's Day and massacre a family of sand people.
>>82581450
>This fall. Probably November-ish.
Goddammit
>hoping we'll get a special sometime this summer.
That'd be nice. Sabrecopters aside, that finale was pretty brilliant.
RIP SS, you never /ss/'d
>>82581456
>Mothers Day
is this a thing in anglo countries?
>>82581525/ss/wiper no /ss/wiping
>>82581456
Cleaned the house and had a barbecue for my mom yesterday and today we're just chilling out watching movies all day.
>>82581252
Bowie.
>>82581456
Gonna do some bbq.
>>82581456
Exorcist.
>Hera's accent slipping when she argues with her Dad
adorable!
>>82581186
Best mom reporting in
What did he mean by this?
Anybody who has read Bloodlines?
>>82582412
Why haven't you read it yet, anon?
>>82582412A senator finds proof that Darth Vader is Leia's father and spills it onto the Senate floor, discrediting Leia.
>>82582633
I knew I shouldn't have looked at that spoiler.
I need to get on this book ASAP, that sounds brilliant.
>>82583066
It's hardly a spoiler since the cover of the book has Vader on it, we've known it's been all about Leia for months, and two-and-two could have been connected.
>>82581593
>his country doesn't have a Mothers Day
It's not always the same date everywhere in the world but wow, shit culture you got there.
>>82583143
That is very true. It was one of my theories for the book, that Leia wouldn't be trusted because of her connection to Vader. I just didn't know how it would go down.
I haven't had a chance to pick up the book yet, which sucks, but I'm sure will have started it within the week.
And then when Bloodline is done, it'll be, uhh... "anticipation", for Wendig's next masterpiece.
>>82582343
>She will never ever get to be a mother
It hurts...
>>82581456
Studying for finals.
>>82582521
I'm too lazystupidto read books and I generally don't read digital.
>>82582633So that's how people find out about it.
Sounds pretty cool actually.
Did this deserve the Golden Buzzer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax7tmaYObIQ
>>82583563
>So that's how people find out about it. Sounds pretty cool actually.
I haven't read it yet, but I'm still bothered by finding out. No one should know that Vader was once Anakin Skywalker. Only two people knew that, and one of those two only suspected it at best. Unless Kylo told someone in a Vader fanboy-fit, and word to the Senate though First Order sympathizers.
>>82583756
>I'm still bothered by finding out.
*by someone finding out.
>>82581456
> ditched studying for an exam simulation to spend time withfoster senpai
Worth it.
>>82583902
Goddamn I hate the word replacement thing.
>>82583902A-Are implying you were an orphan?
>Bloodline opens with a giant statue of Bail on Hosnian Prime
>Leia loses Bail twice in her life thanks to a giant space laser
>>82584093No, but lucky enough that my friend's family took me under when the opportunity presented itself to get away from my parents when I was 16.
Have an AU character meeting since I don't have more Mas.
>>82584181
>biological parents are such bad people that their child wants to leave them
I'll never understand how people can be so bad that they drive away their own kids.
Does anybody have the WebM of the Super Star Destroyer falling on Jakku?
I need it for reasons
>>82584337They're the kind of people who shouldn't have had kids in the first place, they don't have any friends themselves and the rest of the family doesn't want to deal with them either. Happens.
Have more AU Qui-Gon.
>>82584548
What's wrong with his legs?
>>82581405
> theories saying Darth Plagueis is Jar Jar
> Jar Jar is Anakin's Dad
>>82584571
I think the dangling parts of the belt is messing with the natural contour of his leg.
>>82584548
The legs are fine, he's wearing an exoskeleton to stabilize his spine.
> [...] He still retains remains of his preferred ataru style of course, but it’s only for short bursts when the opponent’s defense is down (he’s learned form experience that flips and jumps are tiring, esp if the opponent doesn’t break as fast as expected). The exoskeleton amplifies this, but can only do this if it’s has time to charge for such a jump.
> its also a perfect excuse for me to practice drawing more robotics bc who doesn’t like robotics haha
>>82584677
meant for >>82584571 but also >>82584666, it isn't a belt per se
Watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke! Did I ever tell you I fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out but his cunning surprised even us! He used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Then the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Wait, where was I? Oh yes, then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all. So we sense the hostile life forms, not the robot, in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! And I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Good thing it didn't have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin thanks to his dart and Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. Mace was a good friend.
>>82584981
bravo, George
>>82581186
Dead Mother, standing by.
Would anyone else not mind if they remade Yoda in the OT as cgi? I think it would help the movies fit together a little better. Another change I wouldn't mind that would probably be considered blasphemy by most people is adding in some new scenes with Mas Amedda and the moffs discussing the Rebellion on Coruscant maybe in Sheev's old office or something. I know most people would hate it but I actually kind of like the politics of Star Wars on a galactic level (Episode 1 was kind of boring though since it was mostly just Naboo politics).
>>82585497
I would like the PT to get remastered to some extent. It would be nice to see the CGI updated
>>82585497
George, get back to work.
>>82585497
>Would anyone else not mind if they remade Yoda in the OT as cgi?
No, puppet Yoda still looks really good.
>new scenes with Mas Amedda and the moffs discussing the Rebellion on Coruscant
New scenes would be jarring at would probably ruin the pacing.
If this was not b8, then you people are more autistic than the fucks at /tv/.
>>82585497
Replace everything with TPM Yoda.
>>82585497
Honestly I wouldn't mind changes to the OT, I love the originals, I do, but some things do need to be changed to fit better, not everything such as Obi's krayt dragon call for instance.
If they do make changes such as Puppet/CGI Yoda they should have it as two separate discs just to appease both sides, since Puppet Yoda is pretty comical.
One thing that does need to be changed is Obi-Wan's death, his whole poofing into nothing hasn't made sense since RotJ where Yoda doesn't poof into nothing if I recall.
Is this one of the best scenes/pages from the nucanon?
>>82586598
Yoda does poof into nothing too.
>>82581456
Went on a boat trip/picnic to an island with family and friends
>>82586623
I think so.
>>82586628
Does he? I honestly couldn't remember. Felt like he didn't for some reason, well disregard my dumbass then.
>>82586623
So do they talk it out or what?
>>82586623
Too bad it looks like dogshit.
>>82586729
To be honest, I missed it as well the first time I watched RotJ, so don't beat yourself up too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1-0x9RrT4Y
>>82586792
Yeah, they have a nice talk about how sand is coarse and it gets everywhere.
>>82586822
Looks like I'm gonna be rewatching Star Wars today, haven't seen RotJ in quite awhile anyways.
>>82583232
Yes it does...
>>82582343
You misspelled 'Corpse'
>>82587553
Arguably corpses.
>>82581456
I don't wanna talk about it...
So are they actually banging or what?
The show does this weird thing where it sometimes acts as though the audience is to assume they're a couple, even though it's never really shown or said. Plus he's a Jedi, so is he even allowed to touch lekku?
>>82587652
>So are they actually banging or what?
Honestly? I doubt it. Although they must have considered it.
>>82587652
Yeah they're fucking, Disney just doesn't want them to be explicit about it, like how half the deaths are just sort of glossed over despite the movies having far worse shit with limbs, heads, torsos, etc.
I wouldn't really call Kanan a Jedi anymore honestly, he's just a rogue that happens to know the Force and have a Lightsaber at this point.
>>82587652
I think he can break the vow of celibacy considering that there's no Jedi Order to speak of in the galaxy.
>>82587652
Who's going to stop him from touching lekku if he wants to touch lekku?
>>82587553
>>82587581
Do not mock the best dark side mommy
>>82583197
>"anticipation", for Wendig's next masterpiece
Yeah, sure. It probably won't add anything anyway. Again.
>>82587652
Of course they're banging, where do you think Ezra came from?
>Mace Windu trained Depa Billaba
>Depa Billaba trained Kanan Jarrus
>Kanan Jarrus trained Ezra Bridger
>Ezra Bridger is Mace Windu's great grand-padawan
So why's he such a bitch, /co/?
>>82587702
>Disney just doesn't want them to be explicit about it
There's not being explicit and then there's completely avoiding it. In this age of lesbian space rocks and lesbian kung-fu messiahs, I can't see Disney thinking that a chaste peck on the lips and the occasional "I love you." will wreak moral panic across middle America.
>>82587896
>he such a bitch
Just wait until he starts snorting some Dark side
>>82587896
This >>82587938
Dark Siders are generally little sissies until they go full on Dark side powermode and become OP.
Would you guys read a comic about Sabine trying to join the Black Sun?
>>82587923
The real problem is their international audience ho clutch pearls at the slightest hint of not-really-lewd
>>82587896
>So why's he such a bitch, /co/?
He just needs to sleep with Sabine and get his rocks off.
>>82588018
As long as it's sexy, yes.
I want to cum in Hera'sboyfriend Kanan
>>82587923
SU is not that popular in america and is considered garbage in the rest of the world.
No one gives a single solitary shit about avatar outside of the fact that bryke was able to get their westaboo anime off the ground with nick.
Face it. Your fantasy of gay hero's and heroines leading major disney films is just that. A fantasy.
>>82588018
God I love the way she's drawn in the Kanan comic.
>>82588057
Don't subject Sabine to that torture.
>>82588018
>Would you guys read a comic about Sabine
Dropped.
>>82587896
You can't teach what Mace had. Dude was an intense core of concentrated fury.
Grand Inky said that Kanan favored Form 3 lighsabre combat but Mace was a solid Form 7 dude.Admittedly, there's a lot of assumption there regarding now non-canon techniques but whatever.
>>82588108
>Don't subject Sabine to that torture.
I know he's a virgin but come on. They probably like each other.
>>82587896
>So why's he such a bitch, /co/?
At least he is no Gary Stu.
>>82588140
Vaapad/Juyo is still canon, Shatterpoints is what isn't canon though.
>>82588107
Way to miss the point of what I was saying entirely and get triggered. Nice going, Confederacy of Independent Systems scum.
>>82587896
Well Mace is black, he probably left his apprentice a little earlier than most masters.
>>82588157
Sabine is too busy being an awkward loner writing in her girly diary. Ezra has a new lover now, the dark side, which Maul will groom. Just look at this diary, you think that is good enough for the dark side? No, it's too girly and adorably bad.
>>82588174
Oh cool, but doesn't Mace use shatterpoints in TCW?
Also, why would Kanan be using Form 3 in a duel with the Inquisitor. Isn't that shit for use against blasters?
>>82588222
>you think that is good enough for the dark side?
Bitch, are you not paying attention. She's EXTREME and explicitly tells us as much.
>>82588222
>Extreme!
Christ
>>82588222
>Ezra has a new lover now, the dark side
Exactly, he's going Anakin "get in my space speeder" Skywalker, full harem mode, tons of bitches and brooding and alcohol.Disney plz
>>82588254
I don't believe Shatterpoints is, there might be something highly similar to it, but a lot less pronounced.
Form III/Soresu is actually mostly meant to be used defensively in close-quarters combat, a way to tire out the opponent, mostly used for survival and defense than all out victory/offense. But yes it's one of the Forms used for deflecting blaster bolts too.
It's one of Obi-Wan's primary forms, very meticulous, just about wearing the opponent down and using opportune strikes when needed. Focuses a lot of subtle movements, dodges, and reflexes, a lot of finesse if you will.
>>82588312
But not edgy enough somehow.
>>82588315
She is a 16-18 year old girl in Rebels, 18 as of the end of S2, or close to it.
>>82588322
Ezra is more of "But I wanted to go to Tosche Statiooooon!"
>>82588194
I shouldn't laugh, but it's still funny
>>82588174
Shatterpoints are very canon
>>82588031
But there's nothing taboo about heterosexual adults being romantically involved. I don't see why there'd be any upset over it in any culture. 99% of Disney stories have an element of romance to them, it's not lewd at all.
Is it the head-tentacles?
>>82581186
Nigga left his moms to die as a slave on some desert shithole. At no point during his time as a jedi did he urge or beg the jedi to save her or even send the bitch any money.
He, just like his son, is a selfish asshole.
>>82588322
>Exactly, he's going Anakin "get in my space speeder" Skywalker, full harem mode, tons of bitches and brooding and alcohol.
None of that is Anakin though.
>>82588322
>Anakin "get in my space speeder" Skywalker
>full harem mode
Yeah, he had Padme & ...
>>82588405
Not quite in the same way, though. TCW uses the term pretty literally and never introduces the more metaphysical form of shatterpoints.
They literally just use it to break windows in both episodes.
>>82588405
I stand corrected then.
>>82588193
Shut up stupid.
And yeah, I was being a big floppy cock to the lezbians and da gays.
My point still stands though.
>>82588409
>At no point during his time as a jedi did he urge or beg the jedi to save her or even send the bitch any money.
Such is the Jedi Code.
>>82588409
He didn't because the Jedi Order urged him to let go of his mother though. Even if he did tell them to send money to his mother then the order would've refused to do so.
>>82581186
>mother's day today
>watching all the star wars movies with my mom
>mom starts telling me about the first time we saw TPM
>apparently when I was 5 I told her I wouldn't leave her behind to be a jedi
>>82588409
To be fair, the Jedi pushed the whole "no attachment, you left your mother behind, end of story" thing, which Anakin followed along until he started having nightmares and at that point started feeling guilt for leaving her behind.
Even then, Obi-Wan just kind of brushed that aside and went "oh, that's nice, dreams pass in time, get over it"
>>82588536
>I told her I wouldn't leave her behind to be a jedi
Then you have already failed!
>>82588396
>Ezra is more of "But I wanted to go to Tosche Statiooooon!"
Yeah, but now he has the dark side... I mean if the dark side is really just lust for power then lust...
>None of that is Anakin though.
It's all implied in the story. I mean think about it. Why did Padme accept him after he just confessed to mass murder? Mind control, man. I mean, before he fell to the dark side and Ahsoka left him, what do you think he did? Tons of bitches and alcohol and brooding. Anakin can't control his emotions.
>Yeah, he had Padme & ...
Ahsoka. And the others when she left him. Padme meant nothing for him which is why he kills her without care in EP3
>>82588536
Nigga that's cute as fuck
>>82588475
>>82588502
At what point did cocky arrogant annakin ever give a shit about the order?
He could have done side missions and paid one of the smugglers or seedy types that he knows to buy or take his mother and set her up somewhere safe and sound.
The fuck are the jedi going to do to him about it?
Have obi-wan yell at him about it?
>>82588570
>Ahsoka
He wasn't hitting that though, even if he should have.
>>82588570
>he thinks Anakin and Ahsoka had a thing
So this whole "A-Anakin would totally cheat, marriage means nothing to him!" thing of yours is just a roundabout excuse for your shipping, isn't it?
>>82588570
Get your fanfiction out of here.
>>82588597
That's because he used to believe in the Jedi Order and he followed the whole "No attachment" thing until what we can guess The Attack of the Clones. In the movie he didn't even know his mother was sold again.
>>82588552
Dude, that's fucked.
How can they claim to be lightside and doing good when something like that is allowed under their watch.
That's not lawful good or even true neutral. That's lawful evil AT BEST.
>>82588663
>That's lawful evil AT BEST.
That's the Jedi Order baby
>>82588663
Bruh.
Greater purpose nigger.
>>82588616
>"A-Anakin would totally cheat, marriage means nothing to him!" thing of yours is just a roundabout excuse for your shipping
Nope. That guy reporting-in, this shit ain't got a damn thing to do with me, I'm actually arguing against this dude.
>>82588718
No, you're arguing against us because your argument doesn't make any fucking sense and it goes against Anakin's character.
>>82588652
>That's because he used to believe in the Jedi Order and he followed the whole "No attachment" thing until what we can guess The Attack of the Clones. In the movie he didn't even know his mother was sold again.
Sorry, but that is fucking bullshit.
Everything we saw in attack of the clones SCREAMED that the jedi chafed his danglers and he didn't believe in them that much.
Everything he did in the movie says that he had his own way of doing "what's right" that goes against what obi-wan and the rest thought.
Him attaining enough money to buy his mother and sending her to tatooine should have been a thing. Something that cost him his jedi knighthood and thus made him completely give up on what tiny shred of respect he had for the order. The thing that pushed him into becoming the personal bodyguard of the Chancellor.
Him just going Oh shit I do have a mother who's an a slave on another planet and is now all alone there and could be killed or sold off at any second. I guess I'll get off my lazy jedi ass and walk out of this palace I've been living in to help her now.
>>82588597
I'm not saying he shouldn't have helped her, I just find it funny how fucked Jedi-logic is to think that leaving your Mother to suffer as a slave is the right thing to do.
Listening to Maul complain about how terrible his life is because the Nightsisters took him from his family made me laugh because that is literally the exact same thing the Jedi did on an industrial scale.
>>82588663
Their problem with attachment isn't completely unwarranted- Anakin is proof that attachment can be a bad thing- but yeah, the Jedi approach it in a very black and white way. Their aim is to devote themselves to the greater good but this approach obviously can lead to personal issues.
Of course, then Luke comes along and proves that attachment can actually be a good thing and the Jedi were kind of idiots for having a zero-tolerance policy against it.
>>82588663
Welcome to the Jedi Order, I would say they were close or even equally as bad as the Sith.
>>82588773
Because HE THOUGHT she was safe. It wasn't until he started having the nightmares that he started worrying about her.
>>82588768
Sorry, I'm completely lost. Who are you and what's your argument?
Why does Vader get all the hot chicks? Is it because he has a big blackhelmet
>>82588825
>I would say they were close or even equally as bad as the Sith
From a certain point of view.
>>82588830
What this whole time you thought you were going against one guy?
>>82588846
He attracts burn victim fetishists.
>>82588773
>Everything we saw in attack of the clones SCREAMED that the jedi chafed his danglers and he didn't believe in them that much.
His problem was less with the Jedi Order itself and more with Obi-Wan. You also have to take into account, he's going through a teen rebel phase at that point. Notice he mellows out considerably by the time of ROTS- hell, even in TCW he's already moved past that "I'M THE BEST EVER OBI-WAN IS JUST JEALOUS OF ME I'M GONNA GO POUT NOW" phase.
>>82588846
Anakin finally refined his charm, he just needed a tiny bit of Dark Side.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OGGj3Td.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>82588865
>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL
>>82588846
Did they do the fuck?
>>82588773
>Him attaining enough money to buy his mother and sending her to tatooine should have been a thing. Something that cost him his jedi knighthood and thus made him completely give up on what tiny shred of respect he had for the order.
But then you lose the important part of the story- Anakin failing to save her and realizing he could have done more. It's like you didn't even watch the damn movie.
>>82588869
>What this whole time you thought you were going against one guy?
I literally don't even know what you're talking about. I saw somebody mention something I said in the last thread and stepped in to clarify that it wasn't the same person he was arguing with in this thread. That's all I've done, I don't know why we're still arguing at this stage because clearly whoever it was you were arguing with before isn't around anymore.
>>82588945
He has no dick.
>>82588688
Fucking awful.
I was so desperately hoping that the jedi order would be completely forgotten in TFA and Luke became some kind of greyside force wizard demigod like gangalf and have a perpetual seen some shit look on his face.
>>82588716
Such as...?
Being the police force of a corrupt space beauracracy?
>>82588846
Big black helmet you say?
The Vader and Friends (Inquisitors) Theme Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLtY2R36zE
>>82588986
OH FUCK my bad. I just realized it
>>82589013
Can't leave the Jedi out of stuff, Disney needs to license and commercialize shit without making new stuff
>>82588616
>So this whole "A-Anakin would totally cheat, marriage means nothing to him!" thing of yours is just a roundabout excuse for your shipping, isn't it?
Ah, come on. Anakin became evil at the end. That's the whole point. He never seemed to care much about the jedi order.
>Get your fanfiction out of here.
Get outta my basement!
>He wasn't hitting that though, even if he should have.
It's implied. It's not my fault it went over your heads.
>>82589013
>he expected a sequel trilogy to completely forget about Jedi
>>82588986
He has a dick, it's just not much of one and he can't use it outside of his chamber.
He got his legs right above the knees cut off, not the torso like Maul, who definitely doesn't have a dick. Maul suffers too much.
>>82589013
>some kind of greyside force wizard demigod
What do you mean greyside force? Like Revan?
>>82589031
No biggy... much like the current state of Vader's dick.
>>82589072
>It's implied. It's not my fault it went over your heads.
>>82589077
Yes, but he also had to lie face-down on a bunch of burning-hot sand. His jogan fruits got cooked to a crisp.
>>82589072
There were a lot of things that are implied about why Anakin fell to the dark side.
Obi-Wan/Padme Affair (which he assumed I wont get into it)
Ahsoka leaving the Order/The Council
Padme's death
His temper
If there is one thing Anakin cared about most it was staying loyal. Hell he got incredibly pissy during Clone Wars with whatshisface and Padme, Rovis, Clover? Something.
>>82589135
Well I didn't say it looked pretty down there.
>>82589088
Yeah sorry for tossing you shit like that man. I'm quite ashamed of it.
>>82589077
>Maul, who definitely doesn't have a dick. Maul suffers too
Like I said dude. Rickety Cricket.
>>82588420
>confused rick.jpg
>rick
Die.
>>82589096
Me and George Lucas have watched the animated sex scenes. It's never been released for the public. Not just because it wouldn't work for the animated series, but as George Lucas told me, "The fans don't deserve it. I mean shit I tried my best but look at that Ahsoka going at ti. That's what Star Wars is all about." And I nodded. Checkmate, faggots. George "There's no bras in space" Lucas wins again. That's why Disney cancelled the rest. They don't understand what makes Star Wars Star Wars.
>>82589191
>gets called on his stupidity
>I-I WAS JUST JOKING GUYS
>>82589184
Oh, I've had that and posted it for months and I just noticed it. Thanks
>>82589191
Doesn't Padme wear a bra under her night gown when she's sleeping with Anakin in Ep. 3? Pretty sure she has panties on too, which contradicts his statements decades ago.
>>82589191
>Asarifag
>>82589245
Definitive proof that Lucas is surely a hackfraud!
>>82589211
It's not my fault the truth hurts, son. >>82589245
He was getting old, leave him alone.
>>82588780
You're right.
>>82588791
No, the problem wasn't his attachment. The problem was the jedi's disdain for personal attachment.
All of anakins problems all boiled down to them fucking up his life with the whole ATTACHMENTS AM BAD thing.
Took him from and left his mother to die, qui gon would have probably been a father figure to him and he was taken, obi-wan couldn't even pretend to have a familial relationship with him like qui-gon because he was too busy being an effite faggot, and he couldn't pound out padme on the reg because hurp durp attachments am bad.
But here, keep this light sabre and become attached to it. It's your life. And let's become attached to this corrupt space government and protect it. That's good too right?
>>82588825
They are even worse because they are hypocrites. I take that back, because the sith are all apparently bitchy emofags.
>>82588827
How in the fuck can he think his slave mother who could be sold or killed at any time on a desert hell world was safe? Did he get into contact with her at any time in those years? Did he make sure that she was safe? Did he force choke the flying space jew slaver and tell him to keep her safe and well fed or he'd rip him to bits? Nope.
>>82588877
He mellowed out because he just put his moms into the ground, and he was banging his loving wife on the reg.
He had a close personal attachment and the chancelor was being the parental figure that he apparently needed and obi-wan failed as a mentor to be.
TCW? It's about as canon as a box of oatmeal.
Let's stop playing headcanon and just be honest here. He stopped being a bitch because people got sick of that shit in attack of the clones. That's it.
>>82587582
Every year on Mother's day he travels back to Tatooine and murders a bunch of Sand People.
>it's a "we need to steal supplies/fuel from the Empire" episode
>>82589321
It's not like they have worlds that feed the rebellion with fuel, weaponry and food. Though I do admit it does get stale
>>82588954
That part of the story was fucking stupid. You can not justify that shit in anyway.
He tried to save her by slaughtering half the fucking universe and the other jedi? What kind of fucking logic is that?
He'd be more willing to believe that he was powerful enough to save her himself rather then be the willing foot soldier of the chancelor. Hell, the chancelor being the source of the vision and making him think the jedi had something to do with it would have made more sense.
>>82589284
>TCW? It's about as canon as a box of oatmeal.
So basically you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>82589309
I want to hear Vader say sand is coarse and it gets everywhere and I slaughtered them like animals, the women, the children, I HATE THEM.
>>82589363
>He tried to save her by slaughtering half the fucking universe and the other jedi?
I think you watched the movies out of order.
I'm watching the new movie right now for the first time.
>>82589401
Han Solois still a smuggler
>>82589048
Luke is a force wizard that trains everyone including potential sith
Mary sue, mcbbritteeth is litterally the first pure Jedi in the universe with Fuccboi Emofag and his knights of ren being the first pure sith.
With probably...black joke disney prince becoming a grey jedi/quasi mace windu character who toes the line.
>>82589079
Bioware sucks. The fuck out of here with that shit.
>>82589420
Really? Shouldn't he be a big war hero by now?
>>82589401
my condolences
>>82589363
There is a lot more to Anakin's downfall than just that. The movie just sort of glosses over it very briefly in compared to everything else we know and seen, even then there are subtle hints in RotS too.
Besides the Dark Side clouds your judgment, to Anakin, he'd have killed the entire universe if it meant saving Padme or his mother. The difference with his mother is that he assumed she was still fine in the care of Watto, since she was fine prior to that and they had lived relatively normal lives despite being slaves up to that point. The vision with Padme was just the straw that broke the camel's back for him.
At that point Anakin ceased to be, consumed by Vader and all he knew was that the Jedi held him back knowing that amount of power he was gaining through the dark side, Palpatine was his friend, the Jedi had already fucked over Ahsoka, and then you have the entire stuff with his assumptions on Obi-Wan and Padme. He just lost it.
>>82589451
Why? He achieved a balance between the light side and the dark side of the force.
>>82589475
He left for a reason but I don't want to spoil it for you.
>>82589390
Dude went on a killing spree at the behest of the chancellor and butchered a shitload of "younglings".
No, I watched it in order.
>>82589364
The clone wars was mulitple fucking years of story that was supposed to have happened in the short snatch of time between ep 2 and 3. That shit is retarded and makes no sense and most of the stories completely contradict the movies.
TCW was Luca's attempt at a do-over that people saw through and simply ignored.
>>82589498
>balance between the light side and the dark side of the force.
No such thing.
>>82589451
The Knights of Ren aren't Sith, they're Dark Jedi. As for Luke, he isn't the first to skirt that line, Yoda, Mace, Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan all do it. They all have gotten angry, fearful, or been so close to the dark side, they just didn't fall. They're just like Luke, the only instance we ever see of Luke using the dark side is in his anger against Vader in RotJ, otherwise we don't see it at all, he's not a pure balance, he's just a Jedi that happens to get angry at times, like virtually all of them.
>>82589547
>most of the stories completely contradict the movies.
And some of these are? The only thing they contradict was the EU stuff, not the movies.
>>82589547
>Dude went on a killing spree at the behest of the chancellor and butchered a shitload of "younglings".
Yes... after his mother already died. I don't know where you got the idea that murdering younglings was supposed to save his mother.
>>82589547
>The clone wars was mulitple fucking years of story that was supposed to have happened in the short snatch of time between ep 2 and 3. That shit is retarded and makes no sense and most of the stories completely contradict the movies.
>TCW was Luca's attempt at a do-over that people saw through and simply ignored.
TO REITERATE: So basically you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>82589498
Jedi do not represent order in and of themselves and lucas is all about an eastern yin and yang light and dark side balance in the star wars mythos.
Luke has to have a new way of viewing the force that controls and understands both the light and dark or he has to recreate the light and dark side force users himself.
The balance is only kept if every force user in the universe spontaneously dies or they all become "grey" jedi like luke was becoming at the end of ep 6.
Does anyone else still consider the 2003 Clone Wars as headcanon? It just provides so much important information. How Anakin starts using R2, how 3PO gets his gold paint job, how Anakin becomes a knight, how the Jedi first find out about Grevious, how Asaaj first meets Anakin, etc. I swear if they never fucked up Grevious' cough in the 2008 series the original one would be canon as well. One single fuck up and an entire series is noncanon.
>>82589077
If Maul doesn't have dick or asshole how does he piss and shit?
>>82589655
>One single fuck up and an entire series is noncanon.
It's noncanon because Lucas never considered it canon. The cough has nothing to do with it.
>>82589682
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural.through his mouth
>>82589682
Probably has a filter in the prosthetic legs that connect to chords and nerve endings within his torso, that and he probably focuses on the Dark Side to prolong his need to eat, shit, piss, etc. for as long as he can.
>>82589420
God he looks so old.
>>82589682
It's future shit I ain't gonna explain about how shit goes into a tube and goes straight into Obi-Wan's alcohol drenched mouth
>>82589558
Having normal fucking emotions is not "skirting the line".
Constantly using 'negative' emotions as fuel for jedi powers is skirting the line and the only jedi who do that on the regular was like mace windu.
What is the fucking difference between fucking sith and dark jedi? In a universe without sith the dark jedi are now the new sith and it will take nothing for them to go out and search for sith garbage and learn more about the dark side.
I reiterate. The only way to have a true balance is for luke to purposely or indirectly create the new dark and light side users of the force and maybe a grey side, to rebuild the very idea of force use as a grey side only thing that stands in the middle, OR to kill off all force users except for him.
That's the zero sum "balance" to the force that lucas was talking about.
>>82589758
Well he's supposed to be 63, and Harrison Ford is 73 in real life.
>>82589710
>The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural.
Sheev "I can make you orgasm with my mind" Palpatine, also known as "Sugar daddp"
>>82589682
Probably has a colostomy bag
>>82589606
I'm talking about padme and him going on a killing spree to save her. The genocide after he decided to go help his already dead slave mother YEARS after he had the means to rescue her? Not talking about that. Because we all know about it.
>>82589630
Where am I wrong.
>>82589822
>I'm talking about padme and him going on a killing spree to save her.
Okay, so what does Padme have to do with what I was talking about? Are you just this bad at reading?
>>82589655
The fights, while fun to watch, were just too fucking ridiculous.
The prequels already pushed it by making everyone in the OT look weak as shit.
>>82589683
Yeah he did. He worked closely with the people making it and intended for it to be the link in between 2 and 3. Then when he decided to flesh out the Clone Wars even more with the 2008 series they made everything with the mindset of the original series being canon and the 2008 series being set in the middle of the original series.
>>82589853
I was arguing with someone else about something and just skipped over to padme.
Anyway, the fact that he could have done more is never actually expanded upon. He does bitch like a little girl about how obi-wan is such a big old jerk and how he should be able to pick up buildings rather then pick up star ships with his mind, but not about how he didn't actually go back and buy/rescue his slave mother.
Didn't even bring up how the jedi didn't want him to save her or be with padme really. Just that.
It was wierd.
Unless I'm misremembering.
>>82589386
I tried.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1b48bbBcFKh
>>82589939
>He worked closely with the people making it and intended for it to be the link in between 2 and 3.
He intended it as a media tie-in, and didn't really work that closely with them.
>>82589765
>Having normal fucking emotions is not "skirting the line".
>Constantly using 'negative' emotions as fuel for jedi powers is skirting the line and the only jedi who do that on the regular was like mace windu.
In terms of negative emotions for the Jedi, anger is one of them, as well as fear.
Obi-Wan gets angry after Qui-Gon dies. Obi-Wan gets angry when Maul mentions Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon was constantly causing problems and defying Jedi Code. Yoda straight up fears the Force Priestesses and their visions in TCW.
All of those are the path to the dark side. Luke never once uses the dark side beyond his anger in RotJ, we know nothing about his Jedi Academy and exactly how it works, we know nothing about his teachings, etc. For all we know he could be focusing on the Jedi Code of old.
The difference between the Dark Jedi and Sith is that the Sith corrupt the Force, ruining the balance of Light and Dark, tipping the scale, which Anakin corrected by killing Palpatine and by extension Vader, the last Sith.
It's been explicitly stated that Kylo Ren (note not Darth Kylo Ren), Snoke, and the Knights of Ren are not Sith, just the same as Asajj Ventress is not a Sith just because she has a red lightsaber as Dooku stated.
The Force is already in Balance without the Sith, everyone has the Force in them and the collective Galaxy/Universe is already in balance between all of those people and what is in side of them, this includes Jedi who uphold the balance, and Dark Jedi who fall to the Dark Side. The Sith however completely corrupt the Force and fuck this balance up.
It's a Chinese Scale type Balance, not that everyone needs to have a perfect a balance of Light/Dark in them, as the Force incorporates the entirety of everything as far as that is concerned.
Luke doesn't have to do anything, Anakin balanced the Force, it's that simple. There are no more Sith to corrupt things, and the Dark Jedi despite Sith Teachings, can't corrupt it.
>>82589939
>Then when he decided to flesh out the Clone Wars even more with the 2008 series they made everything with the mindset of the original series being canon and the 2008 series being set in the middle of the original series.
This is where it gets a little weird, since apparently TCW was also intended to just be EU but then Lucas got more involved and basically turned it into his pet project. At least that's what Filoni described way back in movie/season 1 interviews.
>>82589791
Gotta give him credit though, he sure is more likable than the kids a fraction of his age.
>>82589939
He really didn't. Which was why for long long years it was considered the only good thing to come out of the prequels.
Georgy did not like that and started up the awful TCW cg cartoon and called it tcw to cover up the tart cartoon.
Hell, lucas basically threw a big bitch fit about grevious being the bad ass he was in the cartoons.
>>82589822
>>82589961
Anakin assumed she was fine with Watto. Why would he assume otherwise?
>>82590017
>posting while watching a movie
Get the fuck out. I can already tell this fucker is going in already wanting to hate it.
>>82589655
my regret is that TCW didn't ignore it from the start and sort of tried to respect CW's canon.
>>82586792yes
>>82590036
>repeated this tired old meme
All you need is "Lucas pulled strings to get SBT cancelled and personally sabotaged KOTOR2 because it offended him!" and we'll complete the timewarp to 2012
>>82590103
It actually did. Prior to the new timeline with Disney, 03 TCW actually fits in perfectly fine outside of the Mace/Grievious stuff at the end with how he got the cough.
>>82590182
>Mace/Grievious stuff at the end with how he got the cough
Which makes sense since they were gonna go into RotS. Besides, TCW overrode CWs Battle of Mon Calimari
>this Light Side and Dark Side argument going on
Not that hard to understand people.
>>82589983
Four things
1.Nothing the Sith have done in the official material "fucks up the force". As a matter of fact in TCW the sith ARE another part of the force. Balanced.
The dark side users are no different from the sith outside of not using certain high level sith techniques.
2.The Jedi in the Prequels fuck up the force just as much as the sith by stealing and enslaving children and forcing them into wierd zero sum training to become force using foot soldiers for their corrupt patron government.
3.Having normal emotions is not evil and trying to play it up as the ultimate path to the darkside is stupid and I'm glad they got rid of that shit. I, mean, if that's the case then it's not a question of if people will fall but when.
4.Kylo ren being one of the dark jedi/future sity who split off from Luke's group of students and Rey being a Real deal light jedi should be how it's played because it will show off all of "DA BALANCE" like what georgy lucas wanted just like in that ep of TCW(the pottery muh niggas, THE POTTERY) and have the black kid be a random grey jedi that doesn't light or darkside.
5.The force is not in balance with the sith. The sith is not a second force that is in balance with the force.
They are force users that use advanced force techniques that can fuck the force up. Not a source of force.
Balance in the force = no darkside users no lightside users no sith. No nothing.
Just one grey force user who toys around with a bit of light side jedi use.
>>82590038
You mean like how she was fine while he was still there?
He left her to die.
>>82589963
Kek/10
Has Vader ever encountered sand? I imagine it plays havoc with his suit.
>>82590105
I have no fucking idea what you're talking about?
This is all on record(except for calling it clone wars, I just believe that he did it on purpose)
He litterally threw a bitch fit over grevious and demanded that tart cripples him in some way so that he won't be so over the top in the movies.
>>82589963
Sounds more like Sheev mocking Vader but it's pretty great
>>82590343
Sorry, five things.
>>82587810
That's not Asajj.
>>82590330
So, the force naturally inclines towards the dark side?
>>82590343
>outside of not using certain high level sith techniques.
Which corrupts the Force.
>The Jedi in the Prequels fuck up the force just as much as the sith by stealing and enslaving children and forcing them into wierd zero sum training to become force using foot soldiers
That doesn't imbalance the Force in any way, as Jedi still have the dark side in them, as does everyone.
>Having normal emotions is not evil and trying to play it up as the ultimate path to the darkside is stupid and I'm glad they got rid of that shit. I, mean, if that's the case then it's not a question of if people will fall but when.
Except we've been proven that just because you have emotions doesn't mean you will fall to the Dark Side, it just means you're more susceptible to it. Obi-Wan and Mace are fantastic examples of this, they have normal emotions and don't fall to the dark side, because they have discipline and aren't weak.
>Kylo ren being one of the dark jedi/future sity who split off from Luke's group of students and Rey being a Real deal light jedi should be how it's played because it will show off all of "DA BALANCE" like what georgy lucas wanted just like in that ep of TCW(the pottery muh niggas, THE POTTERY) and have the black kid be a random grey jedi that doesn't light or darkside.
Kylo will never be a Sith, with that said, based on your own assumption of how balance works, the Force would be out of balance again. You'd have far more Dark Side users than Light Side, and Gray Jedi do not a mix of Light and Dark make, Grays added to white and black causes a mixture of Light Gray, Dark Gray, etc. It would only imbalance it even further.
>Balance in the force = no darkside users no lightside users no sith. No nothing.
No balance in the Force is no Sith, this has been stated hundreds of times. The Jedi do not cause imbalance, Dark Jedi do not cause imbalance, literally everything in the universe does not. they all have the Force, only Sith do.
Disney is never going to make a SW horror movie. Why even live?
>>82590503
If Asajj is a mother, wouldn't that make Vos a father. I can just imagine Ventress asking if Vos used protection during sex and Vos replies with
>Just Trust Me! Okay?!
>>82590553
Prior to the Chosen One, yes. Which is why the Chosen One was a thing in the first place. Someone was needed to bring balance to the Force and end the Sith for good.
>>82590593
>wanting SW to turn into a generic alien survival horror show
>>82590671
Who said anything about generic aliens? I said horror. Horror could be any number of movies.
>>82590593
oh, they will once the OT era stops printing money
>>82590553
Yeah, because even having normal human emotions means that you're going to go darkside no matter what.
This is the canon that is being put forth now.
This also indirectly states that Sith are natural and the jedi are an unnatural. And if the the horrid galactic senate is any indication...yeah. They kinda are a cancer.
>>82590575
>Which corrupts the Force.
Which the dark jedi will still be able to learn and use. The balance thing was never about protecting, healing or purifying it. It was about balancing int. And since it's all about yin and yang...Light and Dark are needed.
>That doesn't imbalance the Force in any way, as Jedi still have the dark side in them, as does everyone.
Sorry no. The dark side is played up as this big external evil called the sith. The darkside is never played up as a metaphor for anything it is a real thing that will send you to evil land and eventually will.
>Except we've been proven that
Obi-wan is never shown being anywhere near FALLING TO THE DARKSIDE and Mace windu's entire fucking personal fighting style is built around using the darkside but not falling to it.
The fuck are you talking about?
>Kylo will never be a Sith, with that said, based on your own assumption...
1.The only thing stopping him from being a sith are a few techniques. And let's face it, Darth Vader was considered a sith even though the only thing he ever really did was basic force techniques.
2.That's fucking retarded. Grey jedi would just be jedi that uses both the light and dark. And dark/sith and jedi would be people that naturally or because of personal reasons gravitate toward more dark or light use. That's it.
>No balance in the Force is no Sith, this has been stated hundreds of times.
Fucking where. Where does Lucas officially state NO SITH MEANS BALANCED FORCE!!
Lucas said balance was NO SITH NO CORRUPT JEDI ORDER
Yin and yang balance is his deal nigga.
The dark side existing inside of all jedi and force users? Lucas hates that.
>>82590937
>oh, they will once the OT era stops printing money
That'll take at least 100 years. I mean people have watched super heroes for twenty years and they still make tons of money. At some point it's gotta stop. People used to make tons of Westerns.
>>82590604
Stop saying that.
Balance was never about getting rid of the Sith and the Sith alone.
That's just your bullshit headcanon.
>>82590823
000 Saw movie. Doctor Cylo makes a cyborg human centipede. Darth Vader movie where Obi-Wan tortures him a la The Ring. Trandoshan movie based on The Predator. Vong movie based on Hellraiser.
>>82590953
>It was about balancing int. And since it's all about yin and yang...Light and Dark are needed.
Nah, it was just about completely and utterly wiping out the other side.
>>82590953
>Which the dark jedi will still be able to learn and use. The balance thing was never about protecting, healing or purifying it. It was about balancing int. And since it's all about yin and yang...Light and Dark are needed.
Yes, Light and Dark, not Gray. It's about balance on a scale, not a mixture of the two.
>Sorry no. The dark side is played up as this big external evil called the sith. The darkside is never played up as a metaphor for anything it is a real thing that will send you to evil land and eventually will.
Yes, the dark side is negative emotions such as Anger, Fear, etc. Which all the Jedi and people in the Galaxy have. It's whether you have the will and ideology to fall that makes the difference in becoming a Sith or not.
>Obi-wan is never shown being anywhere near FALLING TO THE DARKSIDE and Mace windu's entire fucking personal fighting style is built around using the darkside but not falling to it.
Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to the Dark Side. Obi-Wan gets Angry plenty of damn times and makes a note to Maul that only the weak fall.
As for Mace, him using the dark side is only in Legends, it's not stated anywhere in the nucanon whatsoever. The Jedi may lean more towards the Light, but like all living things they have Light/Dark in them, and the collective of the galaxy makes a balance, the Sith do not have this balance, as they are 100/0 Dark/Light, unlike Dark Jedi. Vader being the exception due to his role as the Chosen One.
>1.The only thing stopping him from being a sith are a few techniques. And let's face it, Darth Vader was considered a sith even though the only thing he ever really did was basic force techniques.
The Sith are gone and never coming back, Anakin/Vader saw to that. Snoke and Ren do not follow the Sith code, nor will they ever. There is a difference. Dark Jedi just denounce the Jedi Code, but don't follow the Sith Code/Was.
>>82591150
>That's fucking retarded. Grey jedi would just be jedi that uses both the light and dark. And dark/sith and jedi would be people that naturally or because of personal reasons gravitate toward more dark or light use. That's it.
And Gray Jedi exist, they don't upset the balance in any way, same as Dark Jedi do not.
>Fucking where. Where does Lucas officially state NO SITH MEANS BALANCED FORCE!!
"You were the Chosen One, it was said you would destroy the Sith/bring balance to the Force, not leave it in Darkness."
In fact, it's very clear in the nucanon as well if you would keep up.
>Yin and yang balance is his deal nigga.
Exactly, a BALANCE OF LIGHT AND DARK, that exists within everybody as the Force exists within everybody. There is a difference between using the dark side and negative emotions and using it to corrupt the Force as Sith do.
>The dark side existing inside of all jedi and force users? Lucas hates that.
And he makes a point time and time again that Jedi use negative emotions that have a chance to lead to the dark side, but they aren't weak enough to fall to it, meaning they have that inherent ability within them.
It's a scale, a Jedi may be 99/1 as far as the Light/Dark goes, but they will never be 100/0 like the Sith are with Dark/Light. No Jedi has shown that ability, not even Yoda.
The balance of the Force isn't a balance between the Light Side and Dark Side, it's the eradication of the Dark Side, that corrupts and destroys the Force.
Which is what TFA gets completely wrong. They completely ignore the Chosen One prophecy, which Anakin fulfilled at the end of RotJ. That makes the entire prophecy a sham as the Force just slept for a time and here we go with the Dark Side again corrupting things.
Balance=/=Light and Dark
Balance=Light/Harmony in the Force
Shit it's not fucking hard to understand guys, goddamn.
>>82591284
>No Jedi has shown that ability, not even Yoda.
Hell, we had an episode where Yoda is shown his own dark side. While the little gremlin was an illusion, it was representative of something real: that even Yoda has darkness within him. He's conquered it, but it's still there.
>>82591426
You can't eradicate the Dark Side.
It's natural
>>82590953
>Fucking where. Where does Lucas officially state NO SITH MEANS BALANCED FORCE!!
Many fans incorrectly assume that balance refers to an equal mix of both light and dark side users. However, as George Lucas explains in the introductory documentary for the VHS version A New Hope, Special Edition, this is not the case:
"[...] Which brings us up to the films 4, 5, and 6, in which Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe..."
In an interview, Lucas compared the difference between the light and dark sides as being like the difference between a symbiotic relationship and a cancer. A symbiotic relationship is one which benefits both parties and in which neither is harmed, whereas a cancer takes without giving back, eventually causing the death of both parties
- Wookipedia article about the "Chosen One", Section "Behind the scenes"
>>82591426
But that's where you're wrong. It's not the eradication of the dark side itself that brings balance- the dark side will always exist. The problem was the Sith strengthening the dark side. That's why eliminating them brought balance, it was the Sith that caused the imbalance, not the entire dark side.
>>82591473
No, it's not actually.
>>82591519
It is.
The Dark side is just as much a part of the Force as the Light.
The difference, is that one is akin to a cancer.
>>82591458
Yep, don't the Force Priestesses also straight up say that even Yoda fears going into the Vision. Which as the Jedi Code says, Fear leads to etc.
But technically speaking anyone can just be born, learn to use the force and become evil = sith. I know what lucas meant with the whole ying yang thing but still, I never bought that.
>>82591625
No, they'd just be like Ventress, a Dark Jedi. Just because you wield a red lightsaber and dark side powers doesn't make you a Sith as Dooku said.
But you are right, Lucas never fully thought through how it worked.
>>82581186
>Implying a slave can be a mother
Her child is property of her
Master you liberal cum slut
>>82591426
>Which is what TFA gets completely wrong. They completely ignore the Chosen One prophecy, which Anakin fulfilled at the end of RotJ
gotta make new movies somehow, so we have the same shit under different name.
>>82591701
>better stop making new movies because it'll trigger a couple literal autists
>>82591700
back to your containment board, space /pol/
>>>/spol/
