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Since MTMTE 51 will be out this week, let's have some thoughtful and deep, cerebral dicussion about Transformers like who's your favorite official TF OC? Mine is Impactor
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Just popping in to say these generals suck, a circle jerk about a comic nobody reads which makes it impossible to talk about the shows
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>>81227974
Just dropping in to say your an idiot.
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>>81227974
Unfortunately when they do talk about it, they died before even reaching 50 posts, end up in flamewar or both.
Unless it's Rescue Bots. I'm liking it so far, but I'm curious on what's the general consensus on it because I've never seen /tfg/ talk about it in depth, just TFA, Prime and RID2015 most of the time.
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>>81228168
You probably work on the comic. Protip, MLP has more readers I bet

>>81228298
Nobody in TFG talks about any show without being morons about it. Rescue Bots is ok, it's nothing amazing but it's (trigger word incoming) "comfy".
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>>81227919
>who's your favorite official TF OC

This always annoys me.

It's basically saying any new character is an OC, hell Impactor's been around since 1986 I believe.

It's like saying Animated Bulkhead or Prime Knock Out are OC's. Despite now becoming mainstays in the franchise.

Drift and Rung are kind of like OC's since fans who went legit made them into character but they've since evolved as characters.
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>>81228555
I thought OC just means comic or cartoon originals like Jhiaxus, Fallen or Drift.
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>>81228555
The cartoons are made with some amount of care though for the general viewing public. Characters in the comics are written literally the same way an OC would be in a fanfiction, because they know kids aren't reading and that many people in general aren't reading so they feel they have full reign to just indulge in their most retarded headcanons
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>>81229081

I guess?
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>>81228456

I honestly think Rescue Bots is kind of dull. Not bad just dull.

I may get back into it since they started adding more bots to the roster.
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>>81228864
hell naw man, that means some regular jackoff came up with their own original character to self-insert into that universe
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>>81230219
Megatron is an Autobot
What do you mean you "guess"

If I wrote a fanfiction I'd write about evil Optimus Prime, BECAUSE THE CONS WERE ALWAYS RIGHT

Oh...and uh, heh, I want to put in Blackarachnia and Airachnid...they are lesbians cuz reasons, heh
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>>81231140
My fanwank would include these guys, Prime Predaking or Cybertron Scourge, and probably some act of blasphemy against Onyx Prime.
But seriously, these guys look pretty baller.
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no preview?
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well this thread is off to a great fucking start already
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>>81229081
>retarded headcanons
like Starscream is the prince of Vos, who decided to 'screw it all- Megatron is hot I'll follow him'
also: the seekers are brothers
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This is your friendly reminder that Getaway did nothing wrong.
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>>81233057
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>>81233057
Neither did Prowl.
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>>81233057
He was right but for the wrong reason
Megatron being left free to make admins as a captain of the ship is a back handed insult to every Autobot on that ship.
But an underhanded approach of mind wiping those that disagrees and leave them all but for dead is pretty dick move. Hell considering that was his plan B and his plan A was getting a naive bot killed for the greater good through manipulation rather than do his own dirty work is even more pathetic.
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>>81233205
He just sees it as a necessary evil.
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Started hearing stuff about the DJD and now I'm interested. Do I just read MTMTE or are there other issues that I need to read to get the full story?
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>>81233349
Start with the Death of Optimus Prime, it's a good primer for MTMTE but not completely necessary. You can just dive right in at #1 if you really want.
Might also help to read Last Stand of the Wreckers but again, not completely necessary.
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>>81233255
hence "right but for the wrong reason"
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>>81227919
>2016
>Still the best comic cover in existence
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>>81233190
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>>81234269
I need the one where Optimus is screaming peace after he throws Prowl out the window
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>>81234517

as you wish my lord.
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>>81234658
thank you so much anon
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Any bets on who dies tomorrow?
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>>81234885
no one
we probably wont see deaths till 53
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Manipulating people's relationships is not as bad as committing genocide. Getaway is a better person than Megatron and the Megatron-sympathizers.
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>>81235125
So you're Team Getaway then. Ok.
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>>81235180
I'm on the side of truth, justice, and the Autobot way.
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>>81235125

Redemption arcs for former villains rarely works well in comics. When you've got shit like Magneto basically wanting to be Super Hitler for 40+ years it's hard to swallow when they turn him good, or try to.

Same with Megatron. Guy's a villain. It's a bit ridiculous to forgive a guy who has been harvesting planets for the past 5 million or so years of galactic war.

Not that Getaway is justified in being a dick to everyone else. Not wanting to engage directly in vegeance killing of a surrendered war criminal doesn't mean you deserve to be marooned on a planet with a death squad waiting to buttfuck you with a shotgun.
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>>81235321
Optimus get off the computer.
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>>81235346
>a death squad waiting to buttfuck you with a shotgun
thats a mental image
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>>81235125
Getaway was going to break up a couple using lies then use false love to get an innocent killed all because hes a self centered piece of shit too pussy to attempt killing Megatron himself.

I hope Lost Light bumps back into Overlord so he can give getaway the violent anal rape death he deserves.
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>>81235430
Oh boo-hoo a spy made some people sad in order to stop a war criminal from remaining free. Do you want to rape James Bond to death too?
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>>81235430
Does make you wonder why a guy as talented and resourceful as Getaway couldn't come up with a plan to off Megatron without killing anyone.
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>>81235514

Drama
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>>81235479
>Do you want to rape James Bond to death too?
Yes.
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>>81235546
I think that's beyond obvious but besides that.
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>>81234885
>>81234973
According to a review someone gets horribly beaten and eviscerated.
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>>81235778
Bet it's Ten.
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>>81235778
How edgy. Bravo Roberts.
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>>81235778

is it an Autobot or Decepticon?
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>>81236074
It's one of the protagonists.
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>>81235939
Until someone invent an exo-cog or sensor looper or something else far wicked, DJD and endoscopic claw shall remain as IDW's edgiest creations
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>>81236074
>>81236895
definitely not meggy or tarn, they'll fight in 52.
but that also mean deathsaurus might bite it somewhere between 51 and 52.
in that case, dang.
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MTMTE #51 spoilers: Drift and Ratchet are back.
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>>81237453
How unfortunate.
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>>81234885
Roberts loved his pet characters a little too much, but he probably doesn't want to draw another ire after the whole Hoist issue, so either Drift or Deathsaurus or one if his flunkies.
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>>81238609
>Hoist issue
Now what did he do?
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>>81238817
Trailcutter, actually.
It's easier to tell when you remember one of them is black and can shit barriers.
To answer your question, he died. Rage ensued
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>>81237453
FUCK YES
Finally

>>81237549
I feel like you would be happier at tfw anon
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>>81234885
Ten
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>>81239299
Probably only one. Ten seems a bit too high.
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>>81239402
Im sure Im being teased but just in case Im not

Seriously he's the only one you can murder and not uproar the fans.
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>>81239299
>>81239402
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>>81239529
Oh, I'm sure that the ten Ten fans will be attacking Roberts on Twitter the minute it hits the shelves if something happens to him.
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>>81238609
>so either Drift or Deathsaurus or one if his flunkies.

Hasbro might not like Deathsaurus dying when he's going to be featured in a toy pretty soon. Liokaiser's torsobot is going to be Deathsaurus because they're using the Skylynx mold for it.

I mean, he might bite it anyway. But I'd think it'd make it less likely he'd die when he's going to have toy rep soon.
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>>81239529
I don't think there's a "safe" character to kill. They all have their fans. Ten is actually pretty inoffensive, so it's not like he even has many haters who'd be happy to see him dead.
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>>81240082
>he's going to be featured in a toy pretty soon
Like that's ever stopped them.
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>>81240082
>Liokaiser's torsobot is going to be Deathsaurus because they're using the Skylynx mold for it.
You keep saying this, but it's pretty obvious the torso is just Leozack in a non-humanoid body. You know, what the Leozack colours, the cat head, and the looking almost nothing like Deathsaurus.
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>>81240082
MTMTE isn't really affected by toys anymore. Trailbreaker croaked and he has a fresh new toy coming out.
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>>81240272

It's not farfetched the combiner facing lower half (ie: the blue part of Skylynx) is going to be green to give it the proper color, while the other half is Deathsaurus colored.
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>>81240228
what's the most recent cases, bumblebee? trailbreaker?
now that chromedome, rewind and ravage will get their toys this year, i wonder if one of them will actually die just to push the toy sales. and maybe to push megs over the edge to fight tarn in issue 52
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>>81240506
I don't think this is what you meant, but Chromedome isn't becoming a Headmaster in the comics according to Hasbro.
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>>81240503
Anon? I think you might be colorblind.
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>US version of the Marvel Comic is 80 issues.
>UK version is 330ish.
>Apparently reprints went both ways somehow.
>Can't just choose one over the other because each issue apparently has SOME original content.

Oh god, I didn't bargain for this.
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>>81235514
He probably could, but Tailgate was probably the easiest bet. He also has zero reservations about making sacrifices, so there's that.
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>>81227974
Why would you want to talk about the shows?
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>>81238609
>Deathsaurus
Probably. Being a fan of the JP G1 trilogy that reads IDW is suffering.
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>>81242640
Only one UK story was reprinted in the US series.
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>>81242996
Its funny cause people always complain about there being no show talk and it's like, ok so what would you like to discuss? And suddenly they're quiet.
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>>81242996
Because some people are six years old and like to play with shit.
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Okay, you're locked in a room with either Prowl or Getaway. Who do you pick?

Hard mode: they both think you are a threat to Cybertron.
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>>81243505
Prowl. He'll be upfront about what he's going to do in the situation.
Getaway will fuck you sideways before you know what's happening and then give you a smug remark after.
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>>81243001

To be fair, like no one knows about the old JP G1 thats probably reading the current IDW stuff beyond maybe looking up the characters online to see if they weren't some writers OC.
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>>81243505
Prowl. Hed be much more willing to make me into an ally through blackmail. Getaway would just push me in lava or some shit.
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>>81243505
I'd pick the fucking escape artist is who I'd pick.
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BOOM ZOWWIE GOTCHA BAM WOOO YEEAAAHHH ZOW!!
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>>81244101
put that thing away, you're scaring the minibots
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>>81244101

Oh Warpath, you're so delightfully nuts.
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SOON
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>>81244127
Warpath IS a Minibot.
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>>81244718
he's scaring the OTHER minibots then
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>>81244932
Even Seaspray?
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>>81244101
WfC Warpath, best Warpath. I loved that crazy fucker.
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>>81245038
probably not him
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>>81244101
When does Warpath get an actual role in the comics?
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>>81244101
>splam
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>>81245156
A better question is where is he at the moment.
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>>81245156
Never. Aileron takes up too much space.
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>>81245191

Somewhere on Cybertron, doing nothing of importance.
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>>81245156
When Wreck-Gar finally shows up.
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>>81245191
Cybertron. I think he was last in Punishment.
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>>81245240
That would fall to Barber to bring him back then.
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>>81245306
Cybertron belongs to the girls now.
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>>81245341
Nah Barber still writes it from time to time, and let's not start that muh grills inclusion in comics shit that always results in 50 idiots arguing over nothing.
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>>81245399
Unless Barber brings him to Earth like he did Sunstreaker and Tracks, Warpath's still more likely to be in TAAO.
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>>81245976
I wouldn't mind seeing him show up on earth.Don't know what the explanation could be but that never stopped the writers before when they wanted a character someplace.
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>>81233180
i'll be real: i used to hate getaway. but 50 made him jump to my favorites instantly if only because he told rodimus off. so happy about that.
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>>81244323

Did Megatron know him beforehand or something? I mean, it's not like TF's having faceplates or helmet style faces are uncommon or anything.
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>>81246675
Faceplates/masks might be common, but not one that specifically looks like the Decpticon symbol. Besides, in some panels you really get to see that it's clearly a mask.
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>>81246675
>Did Megatron know him beforehand or something?
Isn't it implied he did? Megatron said he trained Tarn himself in an earlier issue.
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>>81246675
Megatron personally worked on the phase Sixers didn't he?
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>>81248962
Is Tarn actually a Phase Sixer? I thought he was on the level of one but wasn't actually in the clique.
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>>81248962
What >>81249026 said. Prowl said he was on their level but he doesn't have that title, it's a separate job, not just a type.
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>>81244323
>SON WHEN
>YOU GROW UP
>WILL YOU BE
>THE SAVIOR OF THE BROKEN
>THE BEATEN AND THE DAMNED
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>>81244323
is tarn short?
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>>81249366
He's robot 5'11".
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>>81249366
>>81250029
Overlord probably rubbed that in every chance he got.
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>>81228555

Is Death's Head an OC?

Also on that note has Furman come back to Transformers? I haven't been following the IDW stuff but I loved his run in Marvel, especially Time Wars. If he was writing any of these comics I might try and get back into them
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MTMTE is out somewhere and people are already reading it.
Drift and Ratchet are back as other anon said, and Drift is sporting a new design thanks to Ratchet.
RIP those glorious thighs.
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>>81250466
Fuck. Does he look like he does in the cartoon now?
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>>81250594
No pictures yet, only a few people describing it poorly. They say it looks ok.
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>>81250674
I liked the look he had, but whatever.
Are the two of the married now?
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>>81250821
I liked his previous look too, a little sad they did this but we'll see.
Don't know that yet, only know that much so far while scrounging twitter.
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>>81250435
At Dreamwave Furman wrote War Within and Armada v2/v3 & Energon v1/v2. At IDW he wrote -ations, Regeneration One (a sequel to the Marvel US run), and some of the Movieverse shit. He also wrote for the Titan UK transformers magazine which isn't listed here.
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>>81250594
>>81250674
It's shit.
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>>81252366
We need that picture of the painting that was butchered in the restoration that we use for Ramondelli's stuff except now it needs to have this.
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>>81252366
>Ratchet's new look

Well, I'm happy.
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>>81252503
I don't know how to feel but I don't think happy is the word for it.
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>>81252503
probably shoulda spoilered that
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>>81252366
I had a feeling that Drift would be back when I saw Deathsaurus with his sword at the end of 50, despite Cyclonus having a sword as well. Maybe it's because Cyclonus isn't Japanese?
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We got tumblr reading the issue and freaking out, where's my scans, /tfg/?
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>>81252616
not for another 2hrs
tumblrs probably reading it on apple stuff which the scanners dont use
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>>81253059
*is a good balance
Sorry for the grammar mistakes
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>>81253059
Are we not using spoilers? What the fuck?
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>>81253119
My bad. I mean, if you go onto the Transformer General board, it's kind of a risk already to come here. I'll delete it.
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>>81252366
OH.
WOW.
This is...ok time to throw my two grains of salt.

First off, it makes sense that they would probably have a different design since it's implied that they've been roaming around for a while. So I'm not mad at different designs. I dunno what's up with incorporating the Prime!Ratchet designs his toys/merch nowadays. I can't really complain too much because Ratchet from Prime was one of my favorite characters on that show. But I'm iffy on that design. It's not horrible but it's not as bad as DRIFT.

Drift does NOT look good with a dark gray face. Either light gray or white is good balance for his color palette. Why does anyone think bulky Drift looks good? It doesn't. He's a swordsman, it makes sense that if he uses swords, he's not heavy looking or has a whole lot of kibble on him (i.e. IDW Cyclonus or Windblade) I think it's his legs is what's killing it for me. I like his facial paint he has going on.

I'm not furious because something like this happened to Arcee when she was given new red armor (or body) after Dark Cybertron and her dark gray and pink design was shown off in Combiner Hunters with Windblade. After that, she went back to her original palette. So I'm guessing they're designed like this to do, what else, sell a future line of toys.
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>>81253211
Repost but with the spoiler tags and you're fine, but it is a board rule for future reference. Many people hang out in the thread waiting for the download to show up and are trying to avoid spoilers so it's unfair to them.
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>>81252366
the best part is drift looks deadlock-ish as fuck. wonder what megs would think of that
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>>81253313
Is Megatron gonna be """"triggered""" like Tarn when he sees Drift?
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>>81253313
>Megatron keeps refering to him as Deadlock
>by accident at first and then on purpose
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>>81253353
why would he be?
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>>81253379
I'm joking. There's a part in MTMTE 39 where Tarn says he was triggered when he saw the other LL Drift and proceeded to kill off every single person on the ship except Rewind .
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>>81253379
He's the pretty much guy that renamed Drift right in his face. Then there's also the whole turncoat issue.
Speaking of which, is there any other turncoat on LL other than Megs and Drift?
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>>81253489
AMBULON
WHOOPS
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>>81253264

I still can never understand how people can be such pussies about spoilers.
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>>81246516
I'm in the same boat. I wanted to rip that cocky asshole's head off for being a complete dick.

Now, I still wanna rip his head off but he's that asshole I love to hate. He's the most interesting antagonist right now. (Tarn isn't that interesting to me) Should we trust anything Getaway has said? The guy is a master at manipulation and foresight that it could pass up Prowl.
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>>81253561
Many human beings enjoy surprises.
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>>81253699
________________Surprise!________________
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>>81252366
>TFP Ratchet
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>>81252366
Wait hold the phone. Is this supposed to be the big game-changing reveal, a return-to-status-quo for Drift and Ratchet? Where are the deaths man where is it
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>>81244323
I'll show you!
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So since pages aren't gonna be posted for a few hours.....

Does anyone have any tips on buying a toy/figure? I'm not a toy collector by any means but I wanted to try and buy a one. Is there a place to get them at a reasonable price or are they all 100 US dollars?
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Oh hey... Comixology shows it as pre-order but you can instantly read it still.
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>>81253817
Depends on what you want, if there's a currently new figure you want just run down to walmart or whatever, but if you want the Classics Cyclonus or something check ebay.
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>>81253817

/toy/ here. What figure?
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>>81253817
There's a general on /toy/, but it can be full of shitposting at times.

For a quick answer:
There are toys at every price range. If you want a pretty decent toy at a reasonable price, try getting a Combiner Wars deluxe-class toy. They're pretty good bang for your buck, not too complex and you can collect up a combiner. Once you experience that, you can judge if you want to go high end or whatever.

On another note, I suggest getting someone who you know the character of (like maybe a First Aid) as that goes a long way to making a toy feel more alive.

>>81253774
I don't think anyone promised a death in 51 itself. We just know that people will die in this arc.
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>>81253895
>Combiner Wars deluxe-class toy

Hey hey hey wait now.

It should be said IMMEDIATELY that as actual combiners, the toys from the Combiner Wars line are pretty terrible. On their own they range from poor to decent, but as part of a combiner they're just awful.

If you want something for a combiner, you'll need to invest in third party-issued upgrades, like "Perfect Effect", ranging from either 1 or 2 (in the case of Superion) or a whole handful (Menasor)

Again, this is only if "must combine" is a priority of any sort. If you don't care about combiners then go for it.
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>>81252366
I am not sure how I should feel;
conflicted, I guess
They look good and I am glad they're back but I- I'm just not sure
I prefer my Drift with curves

now that I look at old pictures if him
I don't think he has changed that much, it's mainly the legs and the paintjob, plus some more kibble here and there

I wonder if grey-faces have some sort of meaning on Cybertron
like Starscream has a grey face too
I guess it isn't a religious sign
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>>81253895
>We just know that people will die in this arc.

Hopefully some of the nobodies back on the Lost Light.
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>>81253960
>but as part of a combiner they're just awful
I like Superion just fine, better fists and feet would be nice but not a dealbreaker.
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>>81254008
Yeah, like Riptide
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>>81253960
Fucking this.

My Menasor needed FOUR upgrades before it could have been considered "Decent". New Hands+Feet just so it could stand up, the Torso+Head upgrade just to hold it together, Shoulder locks to keep the shoulders attached when trying to move the arms and a third party Motormaster Rifle just to have a decent weapon.
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>>81254079
>this much exaggeration

At most he needs 2 things: PE's support brace that fills out his midsection if thats offensive to your sense, and the PE hands/feet.

It's more then he SHOULD need, but he is the 2nd weakest combiner of the whole line. Shit like Defensor, Bruticus, Superion, UW Devastator, etc, are fine on their own.
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>>81253961
it also seems like
Drift tries to resemble Ratchet
he painted ratchet's 'eyebrows' on his tailfins for one thing and they even have tzhe same type of 'beard' now
oh god I think I'm getting it:
Dratchet intensifies
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>>81254125
Do you actually have Menasor or a remold of Motormaster? Those shoulders don't like to hold together.
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>>81254125
That Motormaster mold is trash as a combiner torso, it needs all the help it can get.

But if it's the second weakest to you then what's the top worst?
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>>81253960
>>81254079

My recommendations are based on a person wanting to get into the toys in the first place. I was thinking that a single deluxe is probably a decent point to find out if you like toys at all. If you got it and wanted more complexity, we could talk later. I don't think suggesting a masterpiece as a *first* toy isn't a great idea.

What would you suggest as a better first toy? We're not talking about what is up to collector standards (I agree about you on some of Menasor's issues). Do you think a RID warrior is a better start? a Legion?
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>>81254245
Any of the thrilling-30 line or a CW toy that wasn't made to be a combiner is a good place to start.

The Legends-class toys are pretty good no matter what the line, and Ultra Magnus is great if you want to aim high.
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>>81254065
I want to hate him but I just can't.
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>>81254200

Skylynx. No locking tabs on anything, fucked ratchets that are catagorically worse than pre-fix Motormaster. He makes Motormaster look like Superion, he's that bad. The thing can barely stand, go look at reviews for it.

>>81254169

Yeah, I've got all of the G1 combiners that came out of UW/CW. Motormaster's shoulders do need to be held to turn, but then again, so do Defensors.
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>>81254159
as if the fucking cunt dratchet shippers needed any more bait
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>>81254374
>so do Defensors.

A shame really, but they did manage to fix that with Bruticus.

Anyway, what's with the comic?
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>>81254393
>two guys go on a quest
>this somehow makes them totally wanting to suck each others dicks

I'll never understand the minds of shippers.

>>81254406

But yeah. Menasor needs at most 2 things to fix him, and one is purely aesthetic choice. Unless you got pre-fixed hips Motormaster, in which case, ok, you're kinda boned.

He's still not that bad, I like him a lot. I will admit the others are better, and I own the PE back brace thing and that puts him at about the same level as the others.
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>>81254449
The same reason why people seeing Elsa and Anna hugging equals to wanting to fuck each other. It's all fap bait and nothing more.
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>>81254449
You keep saying only two, but I will shout from the highest mountain that he desperately needs the shoulder locks. I simply can't imagine being without them now, and it's a shame they can't be applied to Optimus.

That being said, they are to Motormaster's detriment outside of Menasor mode, I will concede that.
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>>81254449
It's the same way some guys will see a cute female character and immediately think of how perfect a waifu she could be.
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>>81254484

People are weird.

>>81254517

I just hold the part when I turn'em, same as Defensor. They mostly sit on my shelf until I re-pose them anyway. Combiners are hard to play with, being all huge and such. I usually mess with deluxes or legends more.
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>>81254393
Drift shippers are the worst in general. Drift/Rodimus shippers think they're boyfriends when drift only hung around rodimus because he felt indebted to him.
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>>81254629
Im ok with the Drift/Rodimus ones or even the old Driftceptor ones but the Dratchet people are aggressive and obnoxious as fuck.
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It's almost 3am and I really want to talk about MTMTE 51. Like what is up with the organics in the pods and are they link to that weird experiment hinted in past issues. Megatron's hot pink scooter.
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>>81254662
>>81254629
Can you blame them? IDW has very much gayed up the transformers-verse. It was like a cold bottle of water to a thirsty man from the desert.
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>>81254705
Look at the Chromedome/Rewind shippers, they didn't explode into that particular level of bitchyness.
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>>81254740
Chromedome-and-Rewind was ground zero, not to mention a depressingly dysfunctional couple.

Everything since then has been just parading "robots can be gay!" at every possible turn. I don't see why it was necessary to push Cyclonus and Tailgate into being lovers either.
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>>81254783
While I feel you're blowing it out of proportion, I do agree Tailgate and Cyclonus is being stretched way too far at this point.
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>>81254783
Im not bothered by it being gay myself but I am sick of certain groups. I think this is natural progression anyway what with what Furman did, blame him if anyone.
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>>81254848
Blaming Furman has never helped anything.

And there's a lot to blame him for.
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>>81254783
But can robots be straight?
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>>81254783
what >>81254841 says youre way overeacting but agreed on Cygate
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>>81254870
It's seen as "strange and unnatural" in IDW thanks to Furman.

Gay is literally the default for IDW Transformers.
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>>81254866
It makes me feel better so I will blame him for being a gynophobic autist. Who writes well. Sometimes.
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>>81254870
A straight couple hooked up in the Windblade run.

>>81254885
There are more male Cybertronians than females so it isn't "strange and unnatural". It's just a really low chance of coming across.
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>>81254885
I thought the only "love" acknowledged in Furman's IDW was the brotherly or familial kind of love.
Otherwise it's fighting and bombastic line delivery 24/7.
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>>81254926
>There are more male Cybertronians than females so it isn't "strange and unnatural". It's just a really low chance of coming across.
its very much like during wars soldiers isolated on ships who wouldn't see women for months to a year at a time would go gay because they lacked any other options
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>>81254783
>depressingly dysfunctional couple
And yet they're the most realistic couple I've seen in a while.

It's typical for people in general to overthink about a friendship between two people. I can see the fun in shipping people, maybe digging some hidden intentional subtext between two characters.

BUT christ Cygate and Dratchet shippers can't distinguish the difference in a friendship moment and a gay moment. I don't personally ship Dratchet because I feel like Ratchet is like that uncle/adult trying to be there for his nephew/young adult who's been through some serious shit in his life.

Same thing with Cyclonus and Tailgate, a mentor/student dynamic going on. But I can actually see those two hooking up together at the end of MTMTE.
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>>81254944
Furman never touched on any of that very deeply beyond light implications.
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>>81254944
Furman isn't anti-straight, he's anti-gynoid.

He was so against the idea that female transformers made no sense that he changed Arcee into an insane forced transexual to back up his concept of gender not being a thing in Transformers culture.
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>>81254990
I still think he has mommy issues
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>>81254959
I don't get a sense that Ratchet and Drift are being written in a shipping way in the comics at all.

Cyclonus and Tailgate however feels forced as fuck, Tailgate is obviously obsessed with Cyclonus and I'd be downright shocked if they didn't wind up together by the end. Relieved, but shocked.
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>>81254990
But wasn't he the one that proposed female transformers story arcs during his Dreamwave run?
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>>81254956
This. I dunno why some people think Transformers being gay is out of the question. 90% of Transformers are male. Thanks to IDW, there are no females on Cybertron until the last few recent years. Logically, homosexuality is a normal thing. Though Conjunx is considered a private thing so maybe public affection isn't smiled upon during the war.
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>>81254959
Buddy this is /co/. Every possible crackpot shipping combination thinkable exists. From MabelxBill to AkuxBubblesxHim
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>>81255035
It's not out of the question, it's just the obvious split between "buying into the fiction that isn't the reader's reality" and "the writers are fully aware of what they're doing here."
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>>81255041
>AkuxBubblesxHim
Im laughing so hard, thank you anon.
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>>81255058
It feels very natural though given their history and their complete range of other human-like emotions, I don't see how its forced.
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>>81254990
I don't think he's anti-fembot so much just that maybe he finds the scarcity of fembots in TF in general amusing.
Maybe, I don't know him personally that well to judge him.
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>Still no comic

Fuck this, I'm going to bed.
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>>81255020
They're not, it's their history between each other is what interests people. Drift was this drug addict who lived at Dead End (Basically a meth head). Optimus saved him and Ratchet fixed Drift up, saying "You can do anything, you've been given a second chance to do yourself better!". And then he went off and joined the Decepticons, cue Ratchet getting salty at Drift for doing that. Now that the war is over, Drift wants to be nice to Ratchet while he wants this hippie ass fuckbutt to just stop being a hippie. I do see the shipping potential but I'm not a hard shipper for them. I lean more to Cygate, granted that group can get obnoxious to the point of not even wanting the two to even hook up canonically.

Ok here's the logic in shipping. If two people are standing in line of a grocery store, both holding the same items. POSSIBLE SHIP. It's a mix between digging too deep into the relation of two characters and sexual frustration. Trust me.
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>>81255158
Yea try again tomorrow morning. People are cracking down on leaked comics now.
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>>81255169

My issue is the writing behind Tailgate and Cyclonus doesn't feel functional in any sense. Tailgate's the twerp who goes around trying to fit in with the cool kids and things just wind up "working" for him. He's more like Cyclonus' pet than anything else, and Cyclonus' behavior just doesn't feel like it switched from "what a pain" to "he's not so bad"
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>>81255041
You kidding me with that weak game? I ship RockxPaperxScissors
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Has any IDW artist popped up in /tfg/?
Or any TF artist in general?
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>>81255169
>Ok here's the logic in shipping. If two people are standing in line of a grocery store, both holding the same items. POSSIBLE SHIP.
Or if one has spicy items and the other has sour items
Or if one has the cart full while the other just has two items
Or if one says "excuse me can you hand me that"
Or if they are pass each other in the same isle
Or if they both exist in the same space sharing the qualifiers of counting as alive
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>>81255248
>RockxPaperxScissors
Fuck you. PaperxCellophane tape FOREVER.
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>>81255274
Yes
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>>81255274
Eh, kinda?

I'm not that good at TF, just this was a commission from 4 years ago.
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>>81255274
We have a little chubby bumbly bee name Josh who pops up every now and then.
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>>81255213
To be fair there is the factor that they are the only two ancient Transformers on the ship.
Looking at Cyclouns and how he shares old Cybertroian songs and traditions with Tailgate makes me think some of their relationship (what ever it is) was born by the relativity of them being from the same point in history. Cyclouns was very shock to discover Tailgate was online less than two weeks and was 4 million+ years blacking out in a cave. But by that point I think the bond set in.
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>>81255213
You're right about the twerp part. I do like Tailgate, unfortunately that whole super powered outliner reveal almost made me quit MTMTE...I'm still not over that.

I like Tailgate because he genuinely didn't feel like he didn't fit in. It's understandable because of his situation of being in a semi coma for the last 6 million years. Ya miss alot of stuff. Cyclonus actually stops smacking the mech away and starts giving Tailgate respect because this little shit is the only mech who's actually giving him respect and not treating him as a Decepticon. That's what I liked about the ship in season 1. It felt like they were growing as friends.

And season 2 came along and decided to focus on their relationship as a couple instead of the two being friends....And I think that ruined it a bit for me. The two need to get along first before the home wrecker that is Getaway needs to be a spike in their relationship. Cyclonus can't even say "I care about you" to Tailgate. I dunno. Here's to season 3 focusing on other people instead of the top 5 shipping couples of the Lost Light.
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Cyclonus loves fucking infants, how hard is that to understand?
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>>81253774
Why was this hyped up so much?literally everyone and their brother predicted this was going to happen at some point during this arc. I thought there was going to be an actual game-changing surprise.
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>>81255691
Trailcutter part was interesting twist.
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>>81255691
Pro-tip: Don't let people's hype, the solicits, or "hype" in general influence you as much as you can. I've found everything is a lot better when you stop comparing it to your expectations and just watch/read/play it.
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>>81255691
>Roberts won't make a deus ex asspull they said
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>>81255691
Like what? Tarn is secretly Megatron's brother's ex-boyfriend?
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>>81255723
>important named characters bite it during Dying
>several issues later, time travel/quantum duplicate/alt dimension/clone with memories/etc.
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>>81255723
I hate it when people use the term Deus ex machina without knowing what it means.
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>>81255775
Fuck
>>81255825
>a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object

>LL crew is going to die
>Drift/Ratchet that were away suddenly come back - presumably after attacking some baddies from the look of Ratchet's smoking gun - making a difference in the confrontation
>without knowing what it means
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>>81255861
Ratchet and Drift appearing at the end is not a Deus Ex Machina. If they suddenly killed ALL and saved the day in an instant without an explanation then sure. It's a DEX. They just simply saved Ten and that is IT so far.
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>>81255896
>implying that Ratchet/Drift as well as the last-minute TailGod boost won't be double deus ex machina in #52
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>>81255861
Wicked witch of the west dying from a splash of water just because, Aang from Avatar going super nova at the last minute, Aliens suddenly dying at the end of War of the Worlds. Those are examples what a Deus ex machina is.
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>>81255775
>yfw Minimus dies
>yfw later "Look Percy, you're not gonna believe this, I know you won't, but I saw the big guy himself there! Yes it's Optimus but white! But don't tell HIM yet!"
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>>81255965
Then let us wait and see.
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>>81255904
They just appeared as a cliffhanger and everyone knows Tailgate got freaky powers. That doesn't count towards dues ex machina if the readers know what has been established before hand.
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>>81256002
Then I guess I should just kill myself, how's that for a deus ex machina
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>>81256038
Your death won't impact the greater good.
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>>81255904
That's not deus ex especially since everyone predicted drift and ratchet were coming back. do i like that they're back? not sure yet. but still not deus ex regardless.
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>>81256058
>the greater good
>prescribing to a utilitarian doctrine
>implying that other people's happiness affects my life
>implying that my life affects other people's happiness

>>81256065
>since everyone predicted drift and ratchet were coming back.
I had hoped it wouldn't be this way.
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>>81256078
It's kinda obvious they would eventually come back. They are popular characters they wouldn't permanently leave out.
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>>81256065
A Deus Ex would be surprise! Fucking Sixshot/Sentinel Prime/Fort Max/Circle members/Titan/PRIMUS himself beating DJD out of nowhere!
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>>81256120
>spoiler
>All witnessed by Drift
That's some fucking grade A circuit speeders kicking in.
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>>81256150
>"Is that..? I-I just..did you?"
>"Yeah, pretty strong stuff. Thanks for leaving some, Drift."
>"TEN!"
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https://userscloud.com/qm1e0ar343z2
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>>81256322
thank you, anon!
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>>81256322
Featuring another 4 pages of letters from Tumblrinas gushing about how comic books cured their mental disorders and made them feel loved for the first time in their lives!
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Think we're gonna get Defensor in MTMTE?
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>>81256511
It's a little bit telling how Barber had a short one page "thanks for reading" letters page to mark 50 while Roberts has had multiple ones where people write in to talk about their own lives.
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>>81256511
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>>81256530
I think it would be fun to include. Plus, it could give the other Protectobots a bit more personality/paneltime. Funny enough, at TFCon last year a number of people asked him to make Rook a character. Sadly, he didn't even know who Rook was (which I give him some leeway on as he's not a G1 character and it was on the spot - everyone's memory can be spotty on the spur of the moment).

All the same, I just don't feel like he'll do anything with them. First Aid might come back and be a regular again, but I don't know about the rest.
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Ten... ;_;
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>>81256563

You mean is shows how Barber isn't an egomaniac that has a pathological need to get his dick sucked non stop.
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Phallic male power cord + yonic feminine flowers = Swerve. Swerve = sex. Ten wanted to fuck his boss. Workplace sexual harassment triggers me.
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>>81256700
>Swerve
Ten drew Trailcutter
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>>81256711
Well that's not my interpretation.
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>>81256740
The Necrobot was going to use the flowers to resurrect fallen Transformers as organic flesh monsters!
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>>81256770
Huh. I wonder if this might tie into Headmasters somehow. If I remember, MTMTE will actually be tied into Titans Return, unlike how it mostly skipped Combiner Wars.
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>>81256740
>>>/pol/979545
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>>81256740
>>81256805
Whoops
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1457362671783.webm
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