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Since MTMTE 51 will be out this week, let's have some thoughtful and deep, cerebral dicussion about Transformers like who's your favorite official TF OC? Mine is Impactor
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Just popping in to say these generals suck, a circle jerk about a comic nobody reads which makes it impossible to talk about the shows
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>>81227974
Just dropping in to say your an idiot.
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>>81227974
Unfortunately when they do talk about it, they died before even reaching 50 posts, end up in flamewar or both.
Unless it's Rescue Bots. I'm liking it so far, but I'm curious on what's the general consensus on it because I've never seen /tfg/ talk about it in depth, just TFA, Prime and RID2015 most of the time.
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>>81228168
You probably work on the comic. Protip, MLP has more readers I bet

>>81228298
Nobody in TFG talks about any show without being morons about it. Rescue Bots is ok, it's nothing amazing but it's (trigger word incoming) "comfy".
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>>81227919
>who's your favorite official TF OC

This always annoys me.

It's basically saying any new character is an OC, hell Impactor's been around since 1986 I believe.

It's like saying Animated Bulkhead or Prime Knock Out are OC's. Despite now becoming mainstays in the franchise.

Drift and Rung are kind of like OC's since fans who went legit made them into character but they've since evolved as characters.
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>>81228555
I thought OC just means comic or cartoon originals like Jhiaxus, Fallen or Drift.
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>>81228555
The cartoons are made with some amount of care though for the general viewing public. Characters in the comics are written literally the same way an OC would be in a fanfiction, because they know kids aren't reading and that many people in general aren't reading so they feel they have full reign to just indulge in their most retarded headcanons
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>>81229081

I guess?
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>>81228456

I honestly think Rescue Bots is kind of dull. Not bad just dull.

I may get back into it since they started adding more bots to the roster.
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>>81228864
hell naw man, that means some regular jackoff came up with their own original character to self-insert into that universe
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>>81230219
Megatron is an Autobot
What do you mean you "guess"

If I wrote a fanfiction I'd write about evil Optimus Prime, BECAUSE THE CONS WERE ALWAYS RIGHT

Oh...and uh, heh, I want to put in Blackarachnia and Airachnid...they are lesbians cuz reasons, heh
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>>81231140
My fanwank would include these guys, Prime Predaking or Cybertron Scourge, and probably some act of blasphemy against Onyx Prime.
But seriously, these guys look pretty baller.
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no preview?
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well this thread is off to a great fucking start already
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>>81229081
>retarded headcanons
like Starscream is the prince of Vos, who decided to 'screw it all- Megatron is hot I'll follow him'
also: the seekers are brothers
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This is your friendly reminder that Getaway did nothing wrong.
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>>81233057
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>>81233057
Neither did Prowl.
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>>81233057
He was right but for the wrong reason
Megatron being left free to make admins as a captain of the ship is a back handed insult to every Autobot on that ship.
But an underhanded approach of mind wiping those that disagrees and leave them all but for dead is pretty dick move. Hell considering that was his plan B and his plan A was getting a naive bot killed for the greater good through manipulation rather than do his own dirty work is even more pathetic.
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>>81233205
He just sees it as a necessary evil.
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Started hearing stuff about the DJD and now I'm interested. Do I just read MTMTE or are there other issues that I need to read to get the full story?
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>>81233349
Start with the Death of Optimus Prime, it's a good primer for MTMTE but not completely necessary. You can just dive right in at #1 if you really want.
Might also help to read Last Stand of the Wreckers but again, not completely necessary.
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>>81233255
hence "right but for the wrong reason"
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>>81227919
>2016
>Still the best comic cover in existence
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>>81233190
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>>81234269
I need the one where Optimus is screaming peace after he throws Prowl out the window
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>>81234517

as you wish my lord.
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>>81234658
thank you so much anon
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Any bets on who dies tomorrow?
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>>81234885
no one
we probably wont see deaths till 53
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Manipulating people's relationships is not as bad as committing genocide. Getaway is a better person than Megatron and the Megatron-sympathizers.
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>>81235125
So you're Team Getaway then. Ok.
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>>81235180
I'm on the side of truth, justice, and the Autobot way.
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>>81235125

Redemption arcs for former villains rarely works well in comics. When you've got shit like Magneto basically wanting to be Super Hitler for 40+ years it's hard to swallow when they turn him good, or try to.

Same with Megatron. Guy's a villain. It's a bit ridiculous to forgive a guy who has been harvesting planets for the past 5 million or so years of galactic war.

Not that Getaway is justified in being a dick to everyone else. Not wanting to engage directly in vegeance killing of a surrendered war criminal doesn't mean you deserve to be marooned on a planet with a death squad waiting to buttfuck you with a shotgun.
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>>81235321
Optimus get off the computer.
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>>81235346
>a death squad waiting to buttfuck you with a shotgun
thats a mental image
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>>81235125
Getaway was going to break up a couple using lies then use false love to get an innocent killed all because hes a self centered piece of shit too pussy to attempt killing Megatron himself.

I hope Lost Light bumps back into Overlord so he can give getaway the violent anal rape death he deserves.
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>>81235430
Oh boo-hoo a spy made some people sad in order to stop a war criminal from remaining free. Do you want to rape James Bond to death too?
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>>81235430
Does make you wonder why a guy as talented and resourceful as Getaway couldn't come up with a plan to off Megatron without killing anyone.
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>>81235514

Drama
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>>81235479
>Do you want to rape James Bond to death too?
Yes.
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>>81235546
I think that's beyond obvious but besides that.
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>>81234885
>>81234973
According to a review someone gets horribly beaten and eviscerated.
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>>81235778
Bet it's Ten.
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>>81235778
How edgy. Bravo Roberts.
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>>81235778

is it an Autobot or Decepticon?
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>>81236074
It's one of the protagonists.
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>>81235939
Until someone invent an exo-cog or sensor looper or something else far wicked, DJD and endoscopic claw shall remain as IDW's edgiest creations
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>>81236074
>>81236895
definitely not meggy or tarn, they'll fight in 52.
but that also mean deathsaurus might bite it somewhere between 51 and 52.
in that case, dang.
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MTMTE #51 spoilers: Drift and Ratchet are back.
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>>81237453
How unfortunate.
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>>81234885
Roberts loved his pet characters a little too much, but he probably doesn't want to draw another ire after the whole Hoist issue, so either Drift or Deathsaurus or one if his flunkies.
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>>81238609
>Hoist issue
Now what did he do?
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>>81238817
Trailcutter, actually.
It's easier to tell when you remember one of them is black and can shit barriers.
To answer your question, he died. Rage ensued
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>>81237453
FUCK YES
Finally

>>81237549
I feel like you would be happier at tfw anon
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>>81234885
Ten
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>>81239299
Probably only one. Ten seems a bit too high.
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>>81239402
Im sure Im being teased but just in case Im not

Seriously he's the only one you can murder and not uproar the fans.
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>>81239299
>>81239402
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>>81239529
Oh, I'm sure that the ten Ten fans will be attacking Roberts on Twitter the minute it hits the shelves if something happens to him.
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>>81238609
>so either Drift or Deathsaurus or one if his flunkies.

Hasbro might not like Deathsaurus dying when he's going to be featured in a toy pretty soon. Liokaiser's torsobot is going to be Deathsaurus because they're using the Skylynx mold for it.

I mean, he might bite it anyway. But I'd think it'd make it less likely he'd die when he's going to have toy rep soon.
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>>81239529
I don't think there's a "safe" character to kill. They all have their fans. Ten is actually pretty inoffensive, so it's not like he even has many haters who'd be happy to see him dead.
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>>81240082
>he's going to be featured in a toy pretty soon
Like that's ever stopped them.
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>>81240082
>Liokaiser's torsobot is going to be Deathsaurus because they're using the Skylynx mold for it.
You keep saying this, but it's pretty obvious the torso is just Leozack in a non-humanoid body. You know, what the Leozack colours, the cat head, and the looking almost nothing like Deathsaurus.
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>>81240082
MTMTE isn't really affected by toys anymore. Trailbreaker croaked and he has a fresh new toy coming out.
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>>81240272

It's not farfetched the combiner facing lower half (ie: the blue part of Skylynx) is going to be green to give it the proper color, while the other half is Deathsaurus colored.
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>>81240228
what's the most recent cases, bumblebee? trailbreaker?
now that chromedome, rewind and ravage will get their toys this year, i wonder if one of them will actually die just to push the toy sales. and maybe to push megs over the edge to fight tarn in issue 52
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>>81240506
I don't think this is what you meant, but Chromedome isn't becoming a Headmaster in the comics according to Hasbro.
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>>81240503
Anon? I think you might be colorblind.
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>US version of the Marvel Comic is 80 issues.
>UK version is 330ish.
>Apparently reprints went both ways somehow.
>Can't just choose one over the other because each issue apparently has SOME original content.

Oh god, I didn't bargain for this.
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>>81235514
He probably could, but Tailgate was probably the easiest bet. He also has zero reservations about making sacrifices, so there's that.
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>>81227974
Why would you want to talk about the shows?
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>>81238609
>Deathsaurus
Probably. Being a fan of the JP G1 trilogy that reads IDW is suffering.
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>>81242640
Only one UK story was reprinted in the US series.
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>>81242996
Its funny cause people always complain about there being no show talk and it's like, ok so what would you like to discuss? And suddenly they're quiet.
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>>81242996
Because some people are six years old and like to play with shit.
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Okay, you're locked in a room with either Prowl or Getaway. Who do you pick?

Hard mode: they both think you are a threat to Cybertron.
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>>81243505
Prowl. He'll be upfront about what he's going to do in the situation.
Getaway will fuck you sideways before you know what's happening and then give you a smug remark after.
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>>81243001

To be fair, like no one knows about the old JP G1 thats probably reading the current IDW stuff beyond maybe looking up the characters online to see if they weren't some writers OC.
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>>81243505
Prowl. Hed be much more willing to make me into an ally through blackmail. Getaway would just push me in lava or some shit.
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>>81243505
I'd pick the fucking escape artist is who I'd pick.
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BOOM ZOWWIE GOTCHA BAM WOOO YEEAAAHHH ZOW!!
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>>81244101
put that thing away, you're scaring the minibots
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>>81244101

Oh Warpath, you're so delightfully nuts.
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SOON
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>>81244127
Warpath IS a Minibot.
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>>81244718
he's scaring the OTHER minibots then
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>>81244932
Even Seaspray?
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>>81244101
WfC Warpath, best Warpath. I loved that crazy fucker.
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>>81245038
probably not him
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>>81244101
When does Warpath get an actual role in the comics?
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>>81244101
>splam
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>>81245156
A better question is where is he at the moment.
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>>81245156
Never. Aileron takes up too much space.
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>>81245191

Somewhere on Cybertron, doing nothing of importance.
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>>81245156
When Wreck-Gar finally shows up.
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>>81245191
Cybertron. I think he was last in Punishment.
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>>81245240
That would fall to Barber to bring him back then.
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>>81245306
Cybertron belongs to the girls now.
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>>81245341
Nah Barber still writes it from time to time, and let's not start that muh grills inclusion in comics shit that always results in 50 idiots arguing over nothing.
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>>81245399
Unless Barber brings him to Earth like he did Sunstreaker and Tracks, Warpath's still more likely to be in TAAO.
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>>81245976
I wouldn't mind seeing him show up on earth.Don't know what the explanation could be but that never stopped the writers before when they wanted a character someplace.
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>>81233180
i'll be real: i used to hate getaway. but 50 made him jump to my favorites instantly if only because he told rodimus off. so happy about that.
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>>81244323

Did Megatron know him beforehand or something? I mean, it's not like TF's having faceplates or helmet style faces are uncommon or anything.
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>>81246675
Faceplates/masks might be common, but not one that specifically looks like the Decpticon symbol. Besides, in some panels you really get to see that it's clearly a mask.
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>>81246675
>Did Megatron know him beforehand or something?
Isn't it implied he did? Megatron said he trained Tarn himself in an earlier issue.
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>>81246675
Megatron personally worked on the phase Sixers didn't he?
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>>81248962
Is Tarn actually a Phase Sixer? I thought he was on the level of one but wasn't actually in the clique.
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>>81248962
What >>81249026 said. Prowl said he was on their level but he doesn't have that title, it's a separate job, not just a type.
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>>81244323
>SON WHEN
>YOU GROW UP
>WILL YOU BE
>THE SAVIOR OF THE BROKEN
>THE BEATEN AND THE DAMNED
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>>81244323
is tarn short?
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>>81249366
He's robot 5'11".
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>>81249366
>>81250029
Overlord probably rubbed that in every chance he got.
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>>81228555

Is Death's Head an OC?

Also on that note has Furman come back to Transformers? I haven't been following the IDW stuff but I loved his run in Marvel, especially Time Wars. If he was writing any of these comics I might try and get back into them
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MTMTE is out somewhere and people are already reading it.
Drift and Ratchet are back as other anon said, and Drift is sporting a new design thanks to Ratchet.
RIP those glorious thighs.
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>>81250466
Fuck. Does he look like he does in the cartoon now?
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>>81250594
No pictures yet, only a few people describing it poorly. They say it looks ok.
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>>81250674
I liked the look he had, but whatever.
Are the two of the married now?
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>>81250821
I liked his previous look too, a little sad they did this but we'll see.
Don't know that yet, only know that much so far while scrounging twitter.
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>>81250435
At Dreamwave Furman wrote War Within and Armada v2/v3 & Energon v1/v2. At IDW he wrote -ations, Regeneration One (a sequel to the Marvel US run), and some of the Movieverse shit. He also wrote for the Titan UK transformers magazine which isn't listed here.
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>>81250594
>>81250674
It's shit.
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>>81252366
We need that picture of the painting that was butchered in the restoration that we use for Ramondelli's stuff except now it needs to have this.
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>>81252366
>Ratchet's new look

Well, I'm happy.
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>>81252503
I don't know how to feel but I don't think happy is the word for it.
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>>81252503
probably shoulda spoilered that
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>>81252366
I had a feeling that Drift would be back when I saw Deathsaurus with his sword at the end of 50, despite Cyclonus having a sword as well. Maybe it's because Cyclonus isn't Japanese?
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We got tumblr reading the issue and freaking out, where's my scans, /tfg/?
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>>81252616
not for another 2hrs
tumblrs probably reading it on apple stuff which the scanners dont use
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>>81253059
*is a good balance
Sorry for the grammar mistakes
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>>81253059
Are we not using spoilers? What the fuck?
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>>81253119
My bad. I mean, if you go onto the Transformer General board, it's kind of a risk already to come here. I'll delete it.
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>>81252366
OH.
WOW.
This is...ok time to throw my two grains of salt.

First off, it makes sense that they would probably have a different design since it's implied that they've been roaming around for a while. So I'm not mad at different designs. I dunno what's up with incorporating the Prime!Ratchet designs his toys/merch nowadays. I can't really complain too much because Ratchet from Prime was one of my favorite characters on that show. But I'm iffy on that design. It's not horrible but it's not as bad as DRIFT.

Drift does NOT look good with a dark gray face. Either light gray or white is good balance for his color palette. Why does anyone think bulky Drift looks good? It doesn't. He's a swordsman, it makes sense that if he uses swords, he's not heavy looking or has a whole lot of kibble on him (i.e. IDW Cyclonus or Windblade) I think it's his legs is what's killing it for me. I like his facial paint he has going on.

I'm not furious because something like this happened to Arcee when she was given new red armor (or body) after Dark Cybertron and her dark gray and pink design was shown off in Combiner Hunters with Windblade. After that, she went back to her original palette. So I'm guessing they're designed like this to do, what else, sell a future line of toys.
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>>81253211
Repost but with the spoiler tags and you're fine, but it is a board rule for future reference. Many people hang out in the thread waiting for the download to show up and are trying to avoid spoilers so it's unfair to them.
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>>81252366
the best part is drift looks deadlock-ish as fuck. wonder what megs would think of that
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>>81253313
Is Megatron gonna be """"triggered""" like Tarn when he sees Drift?
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>>81253313
>Megatron keeps refering to him as Deadlock
>by accident at first and then on purpose
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>>81253353
why would he be?
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>>81253379
I'm joking. There's a part in MTMTE 39 where Tarn says he was triggered when he saw the other LL Drift and proceeded to kill off every single person on the ship except Rewind .
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>>81253379
He's the pretty much guy that renamed Drift right in his face. Then there's also the whole turncoat issue.
Speaking of which, is there any other turncoat on LL other than Megs and Drift?
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>>81253489
AMBULON
WHOOPS
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>>81253264

I still can never understand how people can be such pussies about spoilers.
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>>81246516
I'm in the same boat. I wanted to rip that cocky asshole's head off for being a complete dick.

Now, I still wanna rip his head off but he's that asshole I love to hate. He's the most interesting antagonist right now. (Tarn isn't that interesting to me) Should we trust anything Getaway has said? The guy is a master at manipulation and foresight that it could pass up Prowl.
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>>81253561
Many human beings enjoy surprises.
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>>81253699
________________Surprise!________________
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>>81252366
>TFP Ratchet
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>>81252366
Wait hold the phone. Is this supposed to be the big game-changing reveal, a return-to-status-quo for Drift and Ratchet? Where are the deaths man where is it
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>>81244323
I'll show you!
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So since pages aren't gonna be posted for a few hours.....

Does anyone have any tips on buying a toy/figure? I'm not a toy collector by any means but I wanted to try and buy a one. Is there a place to get them at a reasonable price or are they all 100 US dollars?
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Oh hey... Comixology shows it as pre-order but you can instantly read it still.
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>>81253817
Depends on what you want, if there's a currently new figure you want just run down to walmart or whatever, but if you want the Classics Cyclonus or something check ebay.
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>>81253817

/toy/ here. What figure?
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>>81253817
There's a general on /toy/, but it can be full of shitposting at times.

For a quick answer:
There are toys at every price range. If you want a pretty decent toy at a reasonable price, try getting a Combiner Wars deluxe-class toy. They're pretty good bang for your buck, not too complex and you can collect up a combiner. Once you experience that, you can judge if you want to go high end or whatever.

On another note, I suggest getting someone who you know the character of (like maybe a First Aid) as that goes a long way to making a toy feel more alive.

>>81253774
I don't think anyone promised a death in 51 itself. We just know that people will die in this arc.
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>>81253895
>Combiner Wars deluxe-class toy

Hey hey hey wait now.

It should be said IMMEDIATELY that as actual combiners, the toys from the Combiner Wars line are pretty terrible. On their own they range from poor to decent, but as part of a combiner they're just awful.

If you want something for a combiner, you'll need to invest in third party-issued upgrades, like "Perfect Effect", ranging from either 1 or 2 (in the case of Superion) or a whole handful (Menasor)

Again, this is only if "must combine" is a priority of any sort. If you don't care about combiners then go for it.
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>>81252366
I am not sure how I should feel;
conflicted, I guess
They look good and I am glad they're back but I- I'm just not sure
I prefer my Drift with curves

now that I look at old pictures if him
I don't think he has changed that much, it's mainly the legs and the paintjob, plus some more kibble here and there

I wonder if grey-faces have some sort of meaning on Cybertron
like Starscream has a grey face too
I guess it isn't a religious sign
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>>81253895
>We just know that people will die in this arc.

Hopefully some of the nobodies back on the Lost Light.
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>>81253960
>but as part of a combiner they're just awful
I like Superion just fine, better fists and feet would be nice but not a dealbreaker.
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>>81254008
Yeah, like Riptide
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>>81253960
Fucking this.

My Menasor needed FOUR upgrades before it could have been considered "Decent". New Hands+Feet just so it could stand up, the Torso+Head upgrade just to hold it together, Shoulder locks to keep the shoulders attached when trying to move the arms and a third party Motormaster Rifle just to have a decent weapon.
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>>81254079
>this much exaggeration

At most he needs 2 things: PE's support brace that fills out his midsection if thats offensive to your sense, and the PE hands/feet.

It's more then he SHOULD need, but he is the 2nd weakest combiner of the whole line. Shit like Defensor, Bruticus, Superion, UW Devastator, etc, are fine on their own.
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>>81253961
it also seems like
Drift tries to resemble Ratchet
he painted ratchet's 'eyebrows' on his tailfins for one thing and they even have tzhe same type of 'beard' now
oh god I think I'm getting it:
Dratchet intensifies
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>>81254125
Do you actually have Menasor or a remold of Motormaster? Those shoulders don't like to hold together.
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>>81254125
That Motormaster mold is trash as a combiner torso, it needs all the help it can get.

But if it's the second weakest to you then what's the top worst?
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>>81253960
>>81254079

My recommendations are based on a person wanting to get into the toys in the first place. I was thinking that a single deluxe is probably a decent point to find out if you like toys at all. If you got it and wanted more complexity, we could talk later. I don't think suggesting a masterpiece as a *first* toy isn't a great idea.

What would you suggest as a better first toy? We're not talking about what is up to collector standards (I agree about you on some of Menasor's issues). Do you think a RID warrior is a better start? a Legion?
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>>81254245
Any of the thrilling-30 line or a CW toy that wasn't made to be a combiner is a good place to start.

The Legends-class toys are pretty good no matter what the line, and Ultra Magnus is great if you want to aim high.
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>>81254065
I want to hate him but I just can't.
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>>81254200

Skylynx. No locking tabs on anything, fucked ratchets that are catagorically worse than pre-fix Motormaster. He makes Motormaster look like Superion, he's that bad. The thing can barely stand, go look at reviews for it.

>>81254169

Yeah, I've got all of the G1 combiners that came out of UW/CW. Motormaster's shoulders do need to be held to turn, but then again, so do Defensors.
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>>81254159
as if the fucking cunt dratchet shippers needed any more bait
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>>81254374
>so do Defensors.

A shame really, but they did manage to fix that with Bruticus.

Anyway, what's with the comic?
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>>81254393
>two guys go on a quest
>this somehow makes them totally wanting to suck each others dicks

I'll never understand the minds of shippers.

>>81254406

But yeah. Menasor needs at most 2 things to fix him, and one is purely aesthetic choice. Unless you got pre-fixed hips Motormaster, in which case, ok, you're kinda boned.

He's still not that bad, I like him a lot. I will admit the others are better, and I own the PE back brace thing and that puts him at about the same level as the others.
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>>81254449
The same reason why people seeing Elsa and Anna hugging equals to wanting to fuck each other. It's all fap bait and nothing more.
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>>81254449
You keep saying only two, but I will shout from the highest mountain that he desperately needs the shoulder locks. I simply can't imagine being without them now, and it's a shame they can't be applied to Optimus.

That being said, they are to Motormaster's detriment outside of Menasor mode, I will concede that.
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>>81254449
It's the same way some guys will see a cute female character and immediately think of how perfect a waifu she could be.
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>>81254484

People are weird.

>>81254517

I just hold the part when I turn'em, same as Defensor. They mostly sit on my shelf until I re-pose them anyway. Combiners are hard to play with, being all huge and such. I usually mess with deluxes or legends more.
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>>81254393
Drift shippers are the worst in general. Drift/Rodimus shippers think they're boyfriends when drift only hung around rodimus because he felt indebted to him.
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>>81254629
Im ok with the Drift/Rodimus ones or even the old Driftceptor ones but the Dratchet people are aggressive and obnoxious as fuck.
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It's almost 3am and I really want to talk about MTMTE 51. Like what is up with the organics in the pods and are they link to that weird experiment hinted in past issues. Megatron's hot pink scooter.
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>>81254662
>>81254629
Can you blame them? IDW has very much gayed up the transformers-verse. It was like a cold bottle of water to a thirsty man from the desert.
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>>81254705
Look at the Chromedome/Rewind shippers, they didn't explode into that particular level of bitchyness.
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>>81254740
Chromedome-and-Rewind was ground zero, not to mention a depressingly dysfunctional couple.

Everything since then has been just parading "robots can be gay!" at every possible turn. I don't see why it was necessary to push Cyclonus and Tailgate into being lovers either.
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>>81254783
While I feel you're blowing it out of proportion, I do agree Tailgate and Cyclonus is being stretched way too far at this point.
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>>81254783
Im not bothered by it being gay myself but I am sick of certain groups. I think this is natural progression anyway what with what Furman did, blame him if anyone.
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>>81254848
Blaming Furman has never helped anything.

And there's a lot to blame him for.
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>>81254783
But can robots be straight?
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>>81254783
what >>81254841 says youre way overeacting but agreed on Cygate
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>>81254870
It's seen as "strange and unnatural" in IDW thanks to Furman.

Gay is literally the default for IDW Transformers.
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>>81254866
It makes me feel better so I will blame him for being a gynophobic autist. Who writes well. Sometimes.
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>>81254870
A straight couple hooked up in the Windblade run.

>>81254885
There are more male Cybertronians than females so it isn't "strange and unnatural". It's just a really low chance of coming across.
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>>81254885
I thought the only "love" acknowledged in Furman's IDW was the brotherly or familial kind of love.
Otherwise it's fighting and bombastic line delivery 24/7.
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>>81254926
>There are more male Cybertronians than females so it isn't "strange and unnatural". It's just a really low chance of coming across.
its very much like during wars soldiers isolated on ships who wouldn't see women for months to a year at a time would go gay because they lacked any other options
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>>81254783
>depressingly dysfunctional couple
And yet they're the most realistic couple I've seen in a while.

It's typical for people in general to overthink about a friendship between two people. I can see the fun in shipping people, maybe digging some hidden intentional subtext between two characters.

BUT christ Cygate and Dratchet shippers can't distinguish the difference in a friendship moment and a gay moment. I don't personally ship Dratchet because I feel like Ratchet is like that uncle/adult trying to be there for his nephew/young adult who's been through some serious shit in his life.

Same thing with Cyclonus and Tailgate, a mentor/student dynamic going on. But I can actually see those two hooking up together at the end of MTMTE.
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>>81254944
Furman never touched on any of that very deeply beyond light implications.
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>>81254944
Furman isn't anti-straight, he's anti-gynoid.

He was so against the idea that female transformers made no sense that he changed Arcee into an insane forced transexual to back up his concept of gender not being a thing in Transformers culture.
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>>81254990
I still think he has mommy issues
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>>81254959
I don't get a sense that Ratchet and Drift are being written in a shipping way in the comics at all.

Cyclonus and Tailgate however feels forced as fuck, Tailgate is obviously obsessed with Cyclonus and I'd be downright shocked if they didn't wind up together by the end. Relieved, but shocked.
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>>81254990
But wasn't he the one that proposed female transformers story arcs during his Dreamwave run?
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>>81254956
This. I dunno why some people think Transformers being gay is out of the question. 90% of Transformers are male. Thanks to IDW, there are no females on Cybertron until the last few recent years. Logically, homosexuality is a normal thing. Though Conjunx is considered a private thing so maybe public affection isn't smiled upon during the war.
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>>81254959
Buddy this is /co/. Every possible crackpot shipping combination thinkable exists. From MabelxBill to AkuxBubblesxHim
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>>81255035
It's not out of the question, it's just the obvious split between "buying into the fiction that isn't the reader's reality" and "the writers are fully aware of what they're doing here."
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>>81255041
>AkuxBubblesxHim
Im laughing so hard, thank you anon.
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>>81255058
It feels very natural though given their history and their complete range of other human-like emotions, I don't see how its forced.
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>>81254990
I don't think he's anti-fembot so much just that maybe he finds the scarcity of fembots in TF in general amusing.
Maybe, I don't know him personally that well to judge him.
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>Still no comic

Fuck this, I'm going to bed.
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>>81255020
They're not, it's their history between each other is what interests people. Drift was this drug addict who lived at Dead End (Basically a meth head). Optimus saved him and Ratchet fixed Drift up, saying "You can do anything, you've been given a second chance to do yourself better!". And then he went off and joined the Decepticons, cue Ratchet getting salty at Drift for doing that. Now that the war is over, Drift wants to be nice to Ratchet while he wants this hippie ass fuckbutt to just stop being a hippie. I do see the shipping potential but I'm not a hard shipper for them. I lean more to Cygate, granted that group can get obnoxious to the point of not even wanting the two to even hook up canonically.

Ok here's the logic in shipping. If two people are standing in line of a grocery store, both holding the same items. POSSIBLE SHIP. It's a mix between digging too deep into the relation of two characters and sexual frustration. Trust me.
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>>81255158
Yea try again tomorrow morning. People are cracking down on leaked comics now.
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>>81255169

My issue is the writing behind Tailgate and Cyclonus doesn't feel functional in any sense. Tailgate's the twerp who goes around trying to fit in with the cool kids and things just wind up "working" for him. He's more like Cyclonus' pet than anything else, and Cyclonus' behavior just doesn't feel like it switched from "what a pain" to "he's not so bad"
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>>81255041
You kidding me with that weak game? I ship RockxPaperxScissors
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Has any IDW artist popped up in /tfg/?
Or any TF artist in general?
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>>81255169
>Ok here's the logic in shipping. If two people are standing in line of a grocery store, both holding the same items. POSSIBLE SHIP.
Or if one has spicy items and the other has sour items
Or if one has the cart full while the other just has two items
Or if one says "excuse me can you hand me that"
Or if they are pass each other in the same isle
Or if they both exist in the same space sharing the qualifiers of counting as alive
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>>81255248
>RockxPaperxScissors
Fuck you. PaperxCellophane tape FOREVER.
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>>81255274
Yes
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>>81255274
Eh, kinda?

I'm not that good at TF, just this was a commission from 4 years ago.
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>>81255274
We have a little chubby bumbly bee name Josh who pops up every now and then.
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>>81255213
To be fair there is the factor that they are the only two ancient Transformers on the ship.
Looking at Cyclouns and how he shares old Cybertroian songs and traditions with Tailgate makes me think some of their relationship (what ever it is) was born by the relativity of them being from the same point in history. Cyclouns was very shock to discover Tailgate was online less than two weeks and was 4 million+ years blacking out in a cave. But by that point I think the bond set in.
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>>81255213
You're right about the twerp part. I do like Tailgate, unfortunately that whole super powered outliner reveal almost made me quit MTMTE...I'm still not over that.

I like Tailgate because he genuinely didn't feel like he didn't fit in. It's understandable because of his situation of being in a semi coma for the last 6 million years. Ya miss alot of stuff. Cyclonus actually stops smacking the mech away and starts giving Tailgate respect because this little shit is the only mech who's actually giving him respect and not treating him as a Decepticon. That's what I liked about the ship in season 1. It felt like they were growing as friends.

And season 2 came along and decided to focus on their relationship as a couple instead of the two being friends....And I think that ruined it a bit for me. The two need to get along first before the home wrecker that is Getaway needs to be a spike in their relationship. Cyclonus can't even say "I care about you" to Tailgate. I dunno. Here's to season 3 focusing on other people instead of the top 5 shipping couples of the Lost Light.
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Cyclonus loves fucking infants, how hard is that to understand?
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>>81253774
Why was this hyped up so much?literally everyone and their brother predicted this was going to happen at some point during this arc. I thought there was going to be an actual game-changing surprise.
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>>81255691
Trailcutter part was interesting twist.
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>>81255691
Pro-tip: Don't let people's hype, the solicits, or "hype" in general influence you as much as you can. I've found everything is a lot better when you stop comparing it to your expectations and just watch/read/play it.
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>>81255691
>Roberts won't make a deus ex asspull they said
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>>81255691
Like what? Tarn is secretly Megatron's brother's ex-boyfriend?
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>>81255723
>important named characters bite it during Dying
>several issues later, time travel/quantum duplicate/alt dimension/clone with memories/etc.
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>>81255723
I hate it when people use the term Deus ex machina without knowing what it means.
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>>81255775
Fuck
>>81255825
>a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object

>LL crew is going to die
>Drift/Ratchet that were away suddenly come back - presumably after attacking some baddies from the look of Ratchet's smoking gun - making a difference in the confrontation
>without knowing what it means
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>>81255861
Ratchet and Drift appearing at the end is not a Deus Ex Machina. If they suddenly killed ALL and saved the day in an instant without an explanation then sure. It's a DEX. They just simply saved Ten and that is IT so far.
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>>81255896
>implying that Ratchet/Drift as well as the last-minute TailGod boost won't be double deus ex machina in #52
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>>81255861
Wicked witch of the west dying from a splash of water just because, Aang from Avatar going super nova at the last minute, Aliens suddenly dying at the end of War of the Worlds. Those are examples what a Deus ex machina is.
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>>81255775
>yfw Minimus dies
>yfw later "Look Percy, you're not gonna believe this, I know you won't, but I saw the big guy himself there! Yes it's Optimus but white! But don't tell HIM yet!"
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>>81255965
Then let us wait and see.
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>>81255904
They just appeared as a cliffhanger and everyone knows Tailgate got freaky powers. That doesn't count towards dues ex machina if the readers know what has been established before hand.
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>>81256002
Then I guess I should just kill myself, how's that for a deus ex machina
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>>81256038
Your death won't impact the greater good.
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>>81255904
That's not deus ex especially since everyone predicted drift and ratchet were coming back. do i like that they're back? not sure yet. but still not deus ex regardless.
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>>81256058
>the greater good
>prescribing to a utilitarian doctrine
>implying that other people's happiness affects my life
>implying that my life affects other people's happiness

>>81256065
>since everyone predicted drift and ratchet were coming back.
I had hoped it wouldn't be this way.
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>>81256078
It's kinda obvious they would eventually come back. They are popular characters they wouldn't permanently leave out.
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>>81256065
A Deus Ex would be surprise! Fucking Sixshot/Sentinel Prime/Fort Max/Circle members/Titan/PRIMUS himself beating DJD out of nowhere!
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>>81256120
>spoiler
>All witnessed by Drift
That's some fucking grade A circuit speeders kicking in.
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>>81256150
>"Is that..? I-I just..did you?"
>"Yeah, pretty strong stuff. Thanks for leaving some, Drift."
>"TEN!"
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https://userscloud.com/qm1e0ar343z2
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>>81256322
thank you, anon!
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>>81256322
Featuring another 4 pages of letters from Tumblrinas gushing about how comic books cured their mental disorders and made them feel loved for the first time in their lives!
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Think we're gonna get Defensor in MTMTE?
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>>81256511
It's a little bit telling how Barber had a short one page "thanks for reading" letters page to mark 50 while Roberts has had multiple ones where people write in to talk about their own lives.
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>>81256511
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>>81256530
I think it would be fun to include. Plus, it could give the other Protectobots a bit more personality/paneltime. Funny enough, at TFCon last year a number of people asked him to make Rook a character. Sadly, he didn't even know who Rook was (which I give him some leeway on as he's not a G1 character and it was on the spot - everyone's memory can be spotty on the spur of the moment).

All the same, I just don't feel like he'll do anything with them. First Aid might come back and be a regular again, but I don't know about the rest.
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Ten... ;_;
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>>81256563

You mean is shows how Barber isn't an egomaniac that has a pathological need to get his dick sucked non stop.
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Phallic male power cord + yonic feminine flowers = Swerve. Swerve = sex. Ten wanted to fuck his boss. Workplace sexual harassment triggers me.
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>>81256700
>Swerve
Ten drew Trailcutter
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>>81256711
Well that's not my interpretation.
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>>81256740
The Necrobot was going to use the flowers to resurrect fallen Transformers as organic flesh monsters!
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>>81256770
Huh. I wonder if this might tie into Headmasters somehow. If I remember, MTMTE will actually be tied into Titans Return, unlike how it mostly skipped Combiner Wars.
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>>81256740
>>>/pol/979545
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>>81256740
>>81256805
Whoops
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1457362671783.webm
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>>81256844
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I don't know why exactly, but Drift reminds me of this version
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Why did they all - even Brainstorm, who laid out the option of leaving - decide to stay? Whirl? Nightbeat?
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>>81256929
Bad writing.
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>>81256929
What kind of Autobot would let Megatron have the moral high ground?
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>>81256866
You're TOO FUCKING SLOW for STORAGE TIME!!!!!
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>>81256943
Yeah, that part genuinely and unironically threw me off and reduced the suspense as well, now that their oncoming demise would have been both voluntary and preventable

>>81256949
Megatron should try spinning; it's a good trick because it always lets him have the high ground from his perspective
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>>81256966
Shit I meant PORRIDGE TIME!!!!!
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>>81256867
I would not be shocked if Milne used that (well, the RID design in general) partially when he made this design.

>>81256929
It definitely felt a bit odd. If this was something like Power Rangers where the whole cast is generally lawful good, you could see this hapening, but it feels very out of place. Maybe everyone thought they'd get tracked down eventually anyway, so might as well make a united stand? All the same, I would not be shocked if a few of them had that transporter eyed as a backup escape if things went south.

>>81256949
I don't think all of the Autobots there really care about morality.
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>>81256978
... GORY LIME?????
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>>81256986
No I got it this time, it's LORI GRIMES.....
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>>81256995
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>>81257004
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>>81256979
Maybe it's partly the whole "if Megatron's staying then I as an Autobot should also stay". But I guess most of the rational characters are accounted for, e.g. Chromedome, Ravage, Cyclonus care about Rewind, Megatron, Tailgate. Again, I have no idea why Brainstorm or Nightbeat are staying.

So should I buy this issue? I was initially considering having the entirety of the Dying of the Light arc..
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>>81256866
im sorry captcha is being retarded.
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>>81257010
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>>81257022
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>>81257022
JUST LOCK THE DOOR AND LEAVE
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>>81257040
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>>81257049
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>>81257058
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>>81257065
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>>81257070
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>>81257087
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>>81257100
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>>81257022
So why are the pods here? Has he been collecting specimens from species that are now extinct because their worlds were destroyed during the war?
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>>81257108
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>>81257117
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>>81257110
Maybe it's the organics from the Worldsweeper near where he found Flywheels
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>>81257126
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>>81257126
>lol you expected Megatron to transform and drive fuck you

Does Roberst know he's writing transformers?
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>>81257134
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>>81257110
I think it's likely given that Megatron specifically mentions that his actions in the war led to several extinctions in this same issue.
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>>81257142
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>>81257117
Look at that tall motherfucker.
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>>81257139
Even if he did, I don't see Megatron as having a speedy alt-mode. The scooter is likely faster.

Plus, I imagine it's meant to be a bit of a joke to see badass Megatron on a little scooter.

>>81257142
Anyone recognize the Decepticon getting decapitated? I'm pretty sure it's not one of the Dinoforce, but I don't remember if Sakamoto/Milne gave any of them a major makeover.

I just don't want to see a bunch of my favorite Victory characters die red shirt deaths, but I fear it's going to happen.
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>>81257139
- the scooter's probably faster
- he'd crush all the pretty flowers
- several characters transformed to travel somewhere in this issue already
- on the other hand, we STILL haven't seen Megatron transform in this body yet.
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>>81257139
Apparently not.
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>>81257100
Nice scooter. It only needs the Cybertronian equivalent of Hello Kitty painted on it.

A bit late in the game for Megatron to start developing guilty feelings just because he heard the cry in his head. Besides, the others heard sounds that were of personal importance to them and were designed to make them feel guilty and upset. Why would Megatron hear organics if he wasn't already feeling upset over their deaths?
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>>81257202
>- several characters transformed to travel somewhere in this issue already
>number of transfomations in this issue: 0
>number of vehicle forms in this issue: 0

What was that Anon?
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>>81257386
That's not true, the Necrobot transformed into dust.
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>>81257386

>>not seeing Swerve in his vehicle mode

Git gud.
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>>81257386
Shh, you'll interrupt the circlejerk.
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>>81257386
Both Tailgate and Swerve were in their vehicle modes, git fucking gud
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>>81257715
Whoops, Tailgate (and several others) were last issue. Looks like I need to git gud as well.
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>>81257117
- Hey neat, Kaon's got an orange Deception symbol now. I like when characters get to have one that matches their colour scheme instead of the standard purple.
- I didn't even notice Ravage on that page on the first readthrough.
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>>81255274
I'm not an "IDW" artist proper, but I helped out with the art in a few of the idw comics.
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Did Milne just give up or something? The art is shit.
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>>81257971
I think it's great.
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>>81257971
In what way? This really doesn't feel significantly different from his normal to me.
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>>81257150

Saw this coming.

Then next issue - Defensor.
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>>81257906
Are you a fucking flatter?
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>>81227974
>Ever watching the cartoons
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>>81256740

They're trying to resurrect the species that the Decepticons wiped out during the war.

There we go.
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>>81257150

I was spoiled last night about this on here.

with that said, their new designs are beautiful.

glad these two are back.

overall a solid issue.

new toys of these two when?
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BTW I was wondering what's your voice head canons for these comics. here's mine.

Megatron - Corey Burton's TFA Megatron but more emotional sounding.

Rodimus - Kirby Morrow (Hot Shot from Transformers Cybertron)

Ultra Magnus - JK Simmons (Think Tenzin from Korra)

Skids - Matthew Mercer (Kiritsugu Emiya from Fate/Zero)

Rung - Wally Wingert (Hank Pym/Ant-Man)

Swerve - Charlie Day (Charlie in Sunny in Philadelphia)

Tailgate - Brad Swaile (the child voice he did for Setsuna in Gundam 00)

Cyclonus - Rick D. Wasserman (Arishok from Dragon Age)

Nightbeat - Steve Blum (Spike Spiegel)

Nautica - Michelle Ruff (Yoko Littner)

Velocity - Kazumi Evan's Octavia Melody

Whirl - Brian Drummond (Shockblast from Transformers Energon)

Brainstorm - J. Michael Tatum (Okabe from Steins; Gate)

Chromedome - Michael C. Hall (Dexter Morgan)

Rewind - Lucien Dodge (Waver Velvet from Fate/Zero)

Ravage - Lee Tockar (Ravage from Beast Wars)

Ten - Vin Diesel (Groot, Iron Giant)

Tarn - Keith David (Spawn, Goliath, Arbiter, his voice is too good)

Tesaurus - Paul St. Peter (Tymilph from Gurren Lagann)

Kaon - Terry Klassen (Cut Man from Mega Man)

Nickel - Kristen Schaal (Mable)

Deathsaurus - Tom Wyner (Devimon from Digimon)

Ratchet - Jeffrey Combs (Ratchet from Transformers Prime)

Drift - Eric Bauza (A mix between his Drift and his Luke Skywalker)
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>>81257202
Can Megatron transform now? His body is a mess after Shockwave's machinations, he has been consuming that tainted energon and he is missing his cannon plus fighting spirit, so maybe all of that combined makes it harder or impossible to transform.
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I bought MTMTE #51 for my nephew because he loves transformers and he cried because they never transformed. Why does James Roberts enjoy making children cry?
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>>81259460
The comics aren't for kids anon
They're from age 12+ and upwards
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>>81259540
How do you explain to a child that a comic about giant robots isn't "for" them?
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>>81227919
One of the greatest comic book covers of all time.

Grimlock is my favourite TF, especially in Wrath of Grimlock and Dinobot Hunt. Furman nailed his character though it saddens me he added the dumb speech patterns. Comic Grimlock is so awesome yet all most people know is retard Grimlock. It makes me sad.
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>>81259460
Your nephew cried because he wanted to spend time with you and you just bought him a comic. Get your transformers off their mint boxes and go play with him.
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>>81259625
"Giant gay robots with relationship problems."
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>>81257142
So Ten got fucked up, but didn't die?
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>>81259838
Things that were never alive can't really die.
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>>81259632
>G1 Grimlock vs retarded Grimlock
Not much of a difference.
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I can't believe a little screaming meat turned Megatron into a pussy.
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>>81258232
You mean scavengers
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>>81258232
>>81260183

what if both show up?
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>>81259793
>>81259625
It's about politics
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>>81253655
Getaway is definitely one of the better characters Roberts has written. It's especially interesting when you go back and mark each time a character had a headache from Getaway's memory gun. It raises all these questions regarding what Getaway asked them and how it factored into his plan against Megatron.
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>>81259632
I was hoping we could go somewhere after guilt-ridden ego-tripping inmate Grimlock post-LSOTW, but nooo, let's go back to me-grimlocks.
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>>81257108
Is that a statue of Prowl,
It can't be why would he have one?
Maybe it's someone else but I can make out the door wings and the big chest
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>>81260554
Someone else with Prowl's body type?
Smokescreen? Bluestreak? Silverstreak?
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>>81257022
Calling it: They're all evil metahumans that will tear through Autobot and Decepticon alike, forcing the two sides to work together to get the hell off of the planet.

Tarn will be miffed that his Voice has absolutely no effect on them.
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>>81259625
You're one of those people who campaigned for a PG-13 Deadpool, aren't you?
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>>81260554
looks like skids to me
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>>81260790
Not just any evil metahumans.
Evil metahuman clones of Spike Witwicky.
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>>81260928
Can they be Hunter clones so we can have him back?

Still not over him...
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What if they're Hitler clones and they all join the crew?
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seriously glad to have him back.

You know I kinda realized that if Ratchet was there on the Lost Light between 41 and 50, I think he might have actually been able to stop the mutiny from happening.
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>>81259460
Perhaps you should use this oppportunity to educate your nephew on various real-life related themes in this issue and the whole series.

I read MTMTE with my wife's son and I can tell he really enjoys the experience. Moreover, James Roberts' skillful and brave writing allows us to discuss various subjects of crucial importance for child's development, such as gay relationships between robots. If he asks me why the robots don't transform, I will explain to him the symbolic meaning of Megatron choosing not to transform and instead riding a pink scooter on the way to meet his destiny. It is a moment of profound significance that concludes the larger transformation of Megatron from a patriarchal tyrant to a good feminist ally. Starting with his renouncing the fusion cannon, an obvious phalic symbol of toxic masculinity, ending with him renouncing his tank alt-mode, a symbol of death for countless civilizations he has personally vanquished and, in-real life, for countless children of Color, and choosing a pink scooter instead - an obvious symbol for often maligned femininity and progressive, environment-conscious thought.

It is no coincidence that the current antagonist, Getaway, represents the other face of toxic masculinity - that of a PUA MRApist who is backed by good men doing nothing when evil happens because "she deserved it".

While I agree that James Roberts is sometimes a problematic writer, I believe children can be really enriched by MTMTE under proper guidance.
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>>81261222
Trying too hard nice trips though
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>>81261222
>with my wife's son.
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>>81261269
>caring about post numbers
Go back to /v/ faggot.
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>>81261047
>huge dork
More like a ex-Juggaloo who thinks he's high class when everyone says he sounds like the narrator from one of those insurance commercials.
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>>81244101
This is now a Warpath thread.
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>>81261655

BOOOOOOONER!
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>>81257134
Did Kaon just zap Killbison?
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>>81255296
This is fun, I like this. Any similar work?
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>>81261701
I think the bolt is going behind Killbison. Although, if so, he's missing Ten by a long shot. I don't know, maybe he's catapulting him over there like a railgun?
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>>81259100
It hasn't been outright SAID that he can't transform now, but he factually hasn't for years now. He never tranformed in the body he had prior to this one either.

IDW is fairly anti alt-mode anyway.
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>>81254008
>Hopefully some of the nobodies back on the Lost Light.

I get the feeling we won't see the lost light again till the arc ends.

Remember that last scene of Getaway in the previous issue takers place after Issue 55.

I think Season 3 is going to be Rodimus/Megatron and friends chasing up to the Lost Light and take back their ship.
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>>81261843
>He never tranformed in the body he had prior to this one either.

He could though, in theory. Megatron was just about to combine into Devastator when Wheeljack's spark-field thingy got activated.
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>>81261843
That goes all the way back to Furman though, this is nothing new, don't know why people think it's just Roberts.
If you need constant transforming you might be better off with the Bay movies or something.
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>>81262269
It also has to do with the plots the writers choose to make. Funny enough, early Furman IDW had lots of alt modes because it was all covert fighting. I remember enjoying the Battlechargers chasing Ratchet.

And attacking Roberts over no transforming is really ironic given that he's written so much about alt mode apartheid. He's made alt modes more plot-relevant than almost any other series.
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>>81262269
But earlier IDW stuff were full of transformations, alt mode showoff and battles in alt mode a la DOTM stealth force toys.
Earlier MTMTE issues were full of transformations as well. Hell, Tarn the transforming addict was Robert's idea.
Maybe it's just the recent issues?
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>>81257126
What are the chances that the DJD would (or want to) subject Megatron to some form of mnemosurgery, as the ultimate form of irony and punishment on him?
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Here's how I imagine things happening:

Sometime between now and the end of this arc, the DJD will have all the Autobots rounded up to be executed and Tarn will start ripping on Megatron for betraying the cause he started. At which point, Rung will say

"Even the most dangerous Decepticons have a chance at redemption. Just like how the most noble of Autobots can become the most sadistic Decepticon. But you should know that better than anyone, wouldn't you, Tarn? Or should I call you by your real name?"
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>>81262582
>"Even the most dangerous Decepticons have a chance at redemption. Just like how the most noble of Autobots can become the most sadistic Decepticon. But you should know that better than anyone, wouldn't you, Tarn? Or should I call you by your real name?"

Oh shit.

wait then if Rung knew his true identity, why wouldn't he have said it before.
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>>81258921

G1 VA's only, final destination.
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>>81262582
>Or should I call you by your real name..
>..Mudflap?
And then the fandom lose their shit
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>>81262688
I get the feeling Tarn's identity isn't really a secret in the universe. Maybe a bunch of people don't know his true identity, but I don't know if Tarn is actively hiding who he was. This might be a Senator Shockwave thing again where the only people who find it a real surprise are the audience.
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>>81262688
Because (I don't think) Rung had met him in person yet. However, once Rung meets Tarn in person, studies his speech patterns and mannerisms, he'll be able to connect the dots and make the connections necessary to discern Tarn's true identity.
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>>81257150

Hm. Can't say I'm crazy about Ratchet's new look.

>soundtrack includes 'Sounds of Silence'

Nice.....
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>>81262582
>>81262688
>>81262848
That would be kinda cool, but how would Rung knowing and revealing who Tarn really is going to help out?

Cause the other Decepticons to turn on him? Make Tarn pause in self-doubt? Make him remember that he had previously talked to Rung about his insecurities?
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>>81262688
Plot twist. This is the patient Rung got his practice license revoked.
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>>81262898

His "new look" is essentially Transformers Prime Ratchet.
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>>81262582
"Ultra Magnus... Faking your death wasn't enough, you had to destroy everything you cared about, even when other rose up to try and preserve it."
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>>81263066
Well, we didn't know how he died or if he really died, right? What with Tyrest being a shady cunt and all.
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>>81263029

And therein lies the problem. Prime Ratchet: great character, meh design.
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>>81262830

maybe.....at this point it'd probably make more sense.

>>81262848
>>81262959

not gonna lie, i'd like that.

>>81263185

I hope towards the end of the comic, Minimus ends up getting stuck in the past and it turns out that he was the original Ultra Magnus all along.

how fucked up would that be?
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>>81263539
I think it's kinda neat. A TFP Prime Ratchet with more facial details (like a nose).
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>>81263539

Ratchet is Ratchet.

There's not a lot of variation on him unless you wanna head into lime-green movie version.
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>nothing at all happens in the issue

Thrilling. This whole issue felt like "YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES UNTIL NAMEK EXPLODES" jobbing for time.
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>>81264095
Do you have ADD?
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>>81263774

I like that one. Not sure why.

Maybe it's the green. Or how tough he looks. Like the only reason he'll heal you is because he just beat you up.
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Any idea who's the interior artist for Til All Are One?
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>>81264168

But literally nothing happened. They sat around did nothing at all, and then the issue ended.

A one page "fight" scene and obligatory "NEXT ISSUE SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN LOOKIT THESE GUYS" splash page.
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>>81264471
Sarah Pitre-Durocher (might have spelled that wrong).

She did Combiner Hunters and the odd exRID so far. Not as vibrant as Stone, but more consistent with Milne and Griffith.
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>>81264598
They discovered weird organics in pods, Ten might of found a solution for them, Ratchet and Drift appears, Megatron has a plan. It's call a build up. If you want something from point A to point B for instant satisfaction for short attention spans then try reading Deadpool.
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>>81264763

A solution was found, they instantly dismissed it to draw the situation out. The whole issue feels like stalling for time.
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>>81264853
Sounds like you're really impatient. Why don't you stop reading the comic and come back after a a few more issues are out so you can read/skip it all in one sitting.
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>>81264981
Well, #52 will be out next week, so he can at least wait a little while.
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>>81265170
wait; so soon?
holy shit that means- you mean RiD comes out next week right?
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>>81265360
Maybe? I'm surprised as well
http://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/FEB160380
SOTW 4 is also on the same day
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>>81265437
And exRid is three weeks from now
http://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/FEB160377
Something's off.
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>>81253376
you have no idea how much I want to see this now
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>>81265437
>>81265475
I wouldn't really trust these dates. Someone should ask Roberts on twitter about the release date for 52.
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>>81257017
>I have no idea why Brainstorm or Nightbeat are staying.
I think no one wants to be "the autobot who left when even FUCKING MEGATRON stayed to defend the organics."
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>>81265515
I think someone accidentally switch those up, but both comiclist and comixology also say April 6th.
Well, who knows really.
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>>81265752

makes sense actually.

Hooray for Peer Pressure.
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>>81265991
>Hooray for Peer Pressure.
out of everyone, it really looks like Rodimus was the one who wanted to leave and felt peer pressured into staying.
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>>81262989
that would be cool but i dont think it would fit for this
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I'm wondering

Tarn has two fusion cannons

Could Megatron take one?
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>>81257110
That's the most reasonable guess.
It'll also be a "hey good thing we stayed huh guys" and a way for Megs to be absolved of some of the guilt of attempting to extinguish a bunch of species.

Not that I dislike it (or the issue), but that bit of 'mystery' seems pretty clear-cut.
now watch me be totally wrong next issue
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okay, a few questions,
does face paint have any meaning?
like some sort of religious reason?
both Drift and Windblade got face-paint and both are religious
or is it just to make yourself look pretty?

why does Drift have a grey faceplate now?
like, he was white before and now it's grey?
or can Cybertronians actually tan and it just turns their face grey?
and why is Drift suddenly so grumpy and Ratchet is the one who's happy?
what happened?
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>>81257134
>>81257142
Ten being beaten to die

Nothin that can care less.

>>81257139
Swerve appears transformed in a vignette´s background. Damn anon, what more do you want? Is not like if this is a comic about robots that can transfor.
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>>81266407
Facepaint could mean cityspeaker, Camiens do it.

Drift's deal is just trying to make him look cool.
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>>81266369
Not so sure reviving a bunch of past dead organics is the goal. Someone was experimenting on creating new cybertronian prototypes fused with organic matter in the first Scavenger issue. The tree guy thing really throws things off.
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>>81266407
>like, he was white before and now it's grey?
He was white, then grey, then white again, and now he's grey again
>or can Cybertronians actually tan and it just turns their face grey?
I dunno, ask Tracks and Fulcrum.
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>>81266407
>does face paint have any meaning?
Maybe. Maybe not

>why does Drift have a grey faceplate now?
Probably going back to his roots in a non-evil way.

>and why is Drift suddenly so grumpy and Ratchet is the one who's happy?
It's only one scene so that's just assuming. Though I did joked about how Drift slowly getting influenced by Ratchet's personality and slowly turning him to a stern RiD2015 version of Drift.
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>>81264095
Seriously, it felt like I was reading a Bendis comic.
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>>81266828
at least it didn't feel like an Ennis comic
>imagine Ennis writing for TF
>'ROBOTCOCK!'
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>>81266943
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>>81266943
Garth Ennis presents: Transformers: Punishment

>no picture of Sandstorm so here's Sandlake
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>>81266407
>You cannot ask people why they're white!

I always wanted to use that.
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>>81267140
>>81267019
>TF/crossed-crossover
>Decepticons engineer a disease so humans kill each other
>in the end a few thousand humans manage to survive with the help of the Autobots and other aliens
>but they have to abandon earth
>it looks like the Decepticons won this time
>cue last page; Shockwave who engineered the disease; says something went wrong
the last panel is Megatron with a red cross on his face grinning like a maniac covered in energon
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>>81267317
>Crossed
NO THANK YOU
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>>81266943
Gratuitous violence, crazy bots and cons doing embarrassing things and being assholes, petty insults, things happening for shock value, lotsa robopiss and "subtle" dick imagery, Irish people, and a surprisingly thoughtful immigrant theme somewhere.
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>>81267317
Heck, isn't that just a more grimdark version of the Hate Plague?
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>>81266673
>>and why is Drift suddenly so grumpy and Ratchet is the one who's happy?
>It's only one scene so that's just assuming. Though I did joked about how Drift slowly getting influenced by Ratchet's personality and slowly turning him to a stern RiD2015 version of Drift.

Empire of Stone had him be a moody cynical anti-hero, because McCarthy OC DONUT STEEL.

Most likely he'll still be bitter and cynical at the other Lost Lighters but will probably warm up again, maybe have one of those comically serious moments where he lets his guard down and try to act more moody again.
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>>81267563
Wait, apart from the Irish and thoughtful themes, isn't that the movies?
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>>81267563
so, just your standard Decepticon party?
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>>81267663
I can't get over the fact that he drew a pair of thick, red eyebrows on his head finials
like: I need to properly express my anger in the form of paint,
give me the red marker!
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>>81267754
Original Drift had something like that. The new one looks like they filled it with color.
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>>81267909
No actually more like the Deadlock version.
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>>81268030
So he went from a junkie to edgy teen to religious weeb to repressed religious hippie to... what was his character in EoS again?
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>>81268271
Mopy angster.
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>>81268271

a bitter jaded asshole who feels wronged by everyone.

Ratchet ironically becomes the more light hearted comedic one now.

I like how the dynamic reversed itself.
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>>81268271
>Status update: Compliated
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>>81268394

with that said Empire of Stone still sucked.

McCarthy should be blacklisted from the industry.
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>>81266524
Okay, I went back through the synopses and argued myself in a circle for a while. I think the most probable explanation is that the group is neutral at least within the context of the major war, was working with the Necrobot, and has a plan to both revive some organics and continue their experimental hybrids of mech and organic, with the first beneficial to the second. The Necrobot's goal was not to enable the experiments, but to save some species from becoming extinct. The group discovered his goal and provided him with equipment to continue, provided he donated some of his findings to their experiments.

Although the 'Cons, at least during the war, were letting at least two bigass logo-ships of theirs run loose under the control of some outlier group and for some reason were... not worried about it? I'd be worried about it. It can't have happened entirely postwar either, because of the stage of the experiments. I can't decide if that's a minor or a major hole in the theory.
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>>81256986
>i apologize for swearing

Goddammit he's just too fucking cute.
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>>81268394
Did Ratchet update Drift on LL status during Empire?
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>>81256995
Oh man, I didn't even notice Tarn opening his mask on this page. That's kind of creepy.
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>>81256995
>>81268788
Also, Deathsaurus' upper pair of eyes has some crazy expressions.
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>>81257087
>It's called an atrium
>No, it's definitely a storm-shield

Why is Tesarus so cute?
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>>81268745

I have no idea, I would assume maybe at some point offscreen from up to Issue 40.

Now they have no idea what they're getting back into.

Drift has no idea who Getaway is most likely, or has never met him,
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>>81227919
>who's your favorite official TF OC
I just wish he'll go beyond a few mtmte issues
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>>81269808
Oh, but he did for a handful of issues
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>>81270170
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btw Megatron's Scoots ain't pink. It's most likely a flat red color that's getting hued into pink(look at their glowy bits to see how they kinda go pink, but dey red). It's an homage to Scooter from the Gobots.
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>>81270517
Josh! Good to see you!
Everyone seems to think the scooter is pink though, we almost need a bulletin about it...
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>>81257100
>Tell them that Scootypuff Jr. suuuuuuuuuucks...
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>>81271160

fitting considering that Frank Welker does Megatron and Nibbler.
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>>81257150

Dear Ratchet,

Back to the red helmet plzkthx.
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>>81271468
No, he should go with white helmet and black crest.
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>>81271468
>>81271512
Either.
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>>81271512

This isn't the Prime comic. I, as others, would prefer he stay with his look here. No need to force Prime anything on this comic, really.

>>81270279
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>>81271549
>No need to force Prime anything on this comic,
Hasbro probably disagrees
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>>81271708

Fair point there.
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>>81271549
Wasn't the black/grey crest from G1 cartoon?
Prime Ratchet's was red.
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>>81271744

Fuck, you got me there. My reading comprehension has failed me.

Still think the IDW red helmet version looks good though.
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>>81271708
>Hasbro rereleases the tfp Ratchet toy relabeled as mtmte Ratchet
>advertise it heavily as mtmte Ratchet
I can see it.
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>>81271908
I actually preferred it too. I have nothing against this new design, just don't like it as much.
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>>81271708
>>81271926
Why would they do this though? Do they have an excess supply of TFP Ratchet figures?
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>>81271926
>>81271976

No they'd just re-release it again.

Honestly I'd rather they do a Titan Returns Voyager. I think he could work as a Headmaster because then there are options for the ideal head design (G1 cartoon, Marvel/IDW comic, Prime....etc).

Or none and make it an homage to the original toy. If you're one of those people.
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>>81272180
>Headmaster Ratchet
That works in many ways
>head comes in three colors depending whether you like G1, IDW G1 or Prime
>headless body references original toy, disembodied head references Pharma shenanigans
>Galvatron's titan master can fit in Ratchet body, because hey, remember that one Megatron/Ratchet issue?
And throw in TFA and Movie Ratchet homage somewhere, somehow
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>>81271976
It's probably just a simple a thing as homage. Also, that's not how toy distribution works.
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>>81272486

Exactly.
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>>81272486
Wouldn't a solitary Ratchet head be a movie reference in itself?
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>>81272633
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has Drift finally found himself?

the whole time he seemed to be like the girl who tries desperately to try to fit in and who copies every style she runs across to get some appreciation from her classmates without developing her own style/identity
he even tries to become the yes-man to Rodimus and cling to some flimsy new-age-hippie beliefe as if that will make him more likable across the crew and give him some sort of stability

I wonder if his new design means that he somehow found himself

or that he tries to emulate ratchet now
like the octopi who emulate other fish
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>>81257888
All the DJD have gold badges.
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Anyone know what's going on with the tfwiki? I've been coming across pages that haven't been updated with latest things from the cartoon and comics. Usually I see that stuff quickly... or maybe it's just unlucky timing?
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>>81272771
Are you ACTUALLY complaining about a lack of updates on a community updated wiki, while not updating it yourself? Is that SERIOUSLY what's you're doing right now?
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>>81270517
>Scooter
I have this urge to see it get blown up in the next issue
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>>81272843
Why are so many people in this thread cunts today.
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>>81272884
Today?
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>>81272843
I've never updated a wiki before nor ever needed to. Also I'm not conplaining. I'm simply asking since I remember some sort of drama about tfwiki a month ago.
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>>81272910
Good point.
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>>81272884
/co/ is very easily triggered.
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>>81272884
we seem to have an influx of different people and that's changed the atmosphere some
I think its tfw or toy but it doesnt matter
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>>81262582
That's cute that you think that.
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>>81272994
That's all of 4chan though.
Each board has it's own trigger words. /v/ especially.
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>>81273018
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>>81273018
Jooooooooooosssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>81273108
That aint Josh anon.
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>>81272994
>/tfg/ is very easily triggered.
FTFY
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>>81273137
>>81273054
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>>81273137
Anon have you even looked in those PPG threads.
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>>81273137
someone hasn't been to /a/ huh? first day here?
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>>81273194
Why go to a board for something I have no interest in?
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>>81273228
so you are a newfag
how cute
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What do you guys think of Aileron?
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>>81273261
Annoying.
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>>81273261

I liked her till the recent issue.

then again I liked the comic till the recent issue so......
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>>81273261
who's that again?
the fat little jet?
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>>81273261
Her face makes her look like an inflated Crasher ripoff.
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>>81273261
She's a bland new female character who seems to trigger some autists because outspoken grill. Other than that she's mostly forgettable.
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>>81273303
I would've happily dismissed her if she didn't provoke the white house last issue.
That was a dumb move.
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>>81273629

Her friend did get melted by a space laser though.
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>>81273629
Smart move would've been nuking Earth into submission from orbit. Why even risk lives fighting on foot.
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>>81273629
She just wanted to talk, albeit it was very provocative. She just wanted to shout at them, seeing their, to her, unreasoning anger. That's why they pointed out how many humans have died due to them.
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>>81274403

>just wanted to talk

To smaller life forms. demanding terms of surrender sounds a lot like 'We are taking over' coming from a giant metal robot.

>>81273261

Unnecessary addition. Need less Aileron, need more Velocity/Nautica.

You know, 'bots who can actually DO something.
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>>81275427
>Need less Aileron, need more Velocity/Nautica.
How does one affect the other when they're in two separate series?
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>>81275427
They really should focus on developing the existing fembots instead of trying to shovel more oc's into the spotlight.

Have the writers given up on Arcee ?
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>>81275427
>'We are taking over'
Hasn't been what anyone is said, that's only how they've been hearing it. Op put the Earth under his direct protection and that it is time for them to become part of the greater galactic community.
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>>81257126
Im waiting for what happen in Larry's GIJoe books
>Megatron: I'm leaving
>Tarn: Dont you dare turn you're back on me! After everything I've become! I've thrown my life away because of you! It's not ending like this!
>*Tarn violently murders Megatron*
>*lifts up his sparkless shell*
>Tarn:You know, anyone could be inside this shell....
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>>81278213
Oh shit it just hit me he's technically a cold construct so you actually could put someone's spark in there no issue.
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>>81278349
MEGATARN
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>>81278213
Nooo. I don't want the reminder of Megatron II from the original Marvel comic and all the confusion it created.
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>>81278213
>Larry Hama's original GI Joe run
My impoverish brother of African descent

And that could actually fix everything back to autobots vs deceptions without any shameless reconing of the cast.
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>>81278213
>poetry
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>>81278213
Wouldn't Shockwave's rebuild with the random space bridge portals make that damn near impossible to safely attempt? Whirl lost an arm to a random punch. Imagine Nickle trying that surgery and being vivisected by a random bridge opening.
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Megatron, at full power, could crush the DJD without a problem, yeah?

I mean he used to hold his own against Overlord like it was nothing.

Plus, I mean, he got Shockwave to install those trigger words in Overlord's brain...I bet he's got one installed on Tarn too.
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>>81279893
It'd be a major oversight if he didn't.
But he should have mentioned it by now.
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>>81273261
She'll be more interesting when she becomes a Decepticon
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>>81272876
You'll see somethin in the next issue alright.
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>>81273122
MAYBE it tis me MAYBE is twasn't me!
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>>81255274
Just some gross colorist who smells like nuggets.
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>>81280935
Nuggets? I thought that colorists smelled like BBQ flavored chips.
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>>81279684
Hypothetically he wouldn't need the whole body to be the new Megatron. He could just take the head and wear it like a hat.
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>>81281253
Or build a replica for a body, like that Optimus costume in the old cartoon.
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>>81277743
Given that Arcee's still being given lots of focus... no?
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>>81279893
Actually no, Roberts has said Megatron is a near match for a Phase Sixer but he's not stronger than one. The DJD are specifically designed to take down Phase Sixers without casuality so Megatron would still be in trouble.

Overlord was only beaten by Megatron before he got the ununtrium coating during his training for being a super soldier. By the time of LSOTW Overlord could probably mop the floor with Megatron.
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>>81281253
Seems convoluted. Megatron poisoned the well with his televised denouncement of the cause. I think wearing the head of Megatron on a necklace would serve Tarn better than trying to reinvent a destroyed image by pretending to be his idol.
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>>81270517
>>81273018
>>81280732
Why are you pretending to be Josh when he isn't part of the MTMTE team and colored nothing in this issue?
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>>81282138
>my other post disappeared
>oook
Yeah that guy is impersonating Josh however. Josh always posts new pieces when he wants to show up here. Not the same doodles that have been posted here and /toy/ a million times. Josh also can't give hints at future plot points like this guy is doing.
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>>81282138
'ey I do covers!
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>>81281899
You and me both, Ravage.

Speaking of which, I wonder how Soundwave's dealing with Ravage not around, or if he knows the DJD is onto him and the others?
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>>81282485
and then the real Josh appears...
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>>81282485
It just not the same to have Swerve without the My First Blaster...
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>>81281540
And then she crushes Galvatron's head with her thighs.

he says, "Thank you."
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>than trying to reinvent a destroyed image
To be this happens all the time in real history but I get what you are saying.
Also how much has it really poisoned the well? Most don't believe it and even fewer would challenge the idea it was a ruse.
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>>81282674
Not even Tarn could survive a weapon of that magnitude.
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>>81282696
Soundwave knows without speaking to him and Galvatron believes (doesn't care either way) plus all the Decepticons with them witnessed his turning during Dark Cybertron. Every Decepticon present on Cybertron saw the televised rescue attempt by the Seacons and Terrorcons that Megs refused to take. They broadcasted it. DJD missed it being out doing there thing. Deazarus and crew refuses to work under Megatron because he sacrificed too many for no reason. Tarn got them on his side with a different approach (and a threat of death). I think Megatron is played out as a Decepticon as a whole.
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>>81257139
I thought Megatron couldn't transform due to being filled with space bridges or some such nonsense.
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>>81282513
>Speaking of which, I wonder how Soundwave's dealing with Ravage not around, or if he knows the DJD is onto him and the others?
Laserbeak and Buzzsaw are still around to comfort him. And there's no indication he knows of anything going on with the DJD. Although, yeah, you'd think he'd wonder what the fuck was taking Ravage so long.
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>>81282968
He can't for that exact reason, his insides are all fucked up, it's said right after Dark Cybertron. Other anon is a troll who probably doesn't even read the fucking comic.
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