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>>81223274
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god damnit i was so close
my bad guys
i see alot of fantasy creators here... but where all my slice of life senpai at?
im more interested in that stuff.
what do you guys center your sol stories around ?
>>81224349
I made these a couple weeks ago, I posted them, got some positive reviews, only bad one was the art style but that's fitting with the story so you guys said.
I was in the process of a move and I'm just about done now, so I can resume this.
I am also glad for once I got to post this at the beginning of the thread...
Oh, and I've begin to set up social media accounts so I can get this out there. I fear the SJWs though.
>>81224089
iirc there are a couple here,
anons making or thinking of making:
childhood memoirs
fantasy sol of two little girls
sol of a loli assassin in skimpy clothes
sol 4koma rpg parody
comedy of a miserable girl and retard friend
Can I ask you guys a favour? I think I'm having some clarity issues. My gf is finding it difficult to understand what's going on in this page.
Pic related would be the next page to tapastic.com/series/carpetcity. Can anyone please just read through that (it's just a few pages) and tell me if this last page makes any sense in context?
Also if you want to insult me for grammar/spelling it wouldn't harm.
Ignore anatomy etc, I'm going to fix those after.
>>81225357
And here's the pic because I am a retard
>>81225357
...What IS going on in that page? It seems like weird non-linear worldbuilding stuff about carpet salespeople. I can't read it on Tapastic because I don't have an account, but they're still talking to that guy that tried to rob them, right?
>>81225504
ok, then yes, I do have a problem here.
Pretty much what you guessed; perhaps it's way too nonlinear way too soon.
I didn't realize tapastic was so anal, you can read here too carpetcity.webcomic.ws
Anyways I'll rework this page. I think I can save this with some clever paneling.
>>81224089
well, mine is supposed to become a travel comic with more of a sol vibe than full on adventure.
I want to make a web comic to 1) watch myself improve and 2) get my name out there, but i have not the creativity or drive to make one
>>81225841
Looking for a writer?
>>81225805
Well it seems like pretty clear non-linear worldbuilding stuff. The page works any which way you read it, so I wouldn't say the lack of linearity is a big detractor.
Only real problem is that I keep wanting to read the speech balloons in Sinus' panel, then the panel about the mayor, and then back to Sinus for the caption about his clothes. If you moved teh traditional carpet attire caption up around his head instead so you'd read the whole thing at once, I think that would fix the flow.
>>81225886
yeah kind of.
My art is still sub par so I'm a bit nervous about actively seeking a writer.
>>81225953
What kind of comics were you looking to work on?
Don't worry, writers looking for artists are a lot more common than artists looking for writers because of the comparatively low level of commitment required.
>>81226041
pretty much anything as long as the story evolves and isnt something like questionable content. I mainly want to practice drawing people in interesting poses so maybe action or something?
>>81226148
Do you have some art you could show us?
The struggle continues.
>>81225935
thanks a lot. I'll think about where to move these dang balloons. I could even consider doing away with Sinus' balloons altogether.
>>81223242
Not sure if I want it to be a web comic or an adventure game.
Still working on the logo, how's this look?
>>81227051
I'd get rid of the knothole over the I.
It just looks weird to have every other letter capitalized except for the I.
>>81223242
Today's sketches include ...
Annabeth naked
Martini and claire.
A girl I hilucinated for about ten seconds due to lack of sleep.
>Sketched out character few weeks ago
>Drew him a bunch
>Started brainstorming backstory (He's a lackey for a deity he's in love with)
>No idea how to incorporate him in my current story
Art's a little derp but im trying to get better (Also posted this last thread and looking for some feedback
>>81227005
cute
>>81227051
yeah this is way better
>>81229320
Aside from the obvious anatomy issues (which, honestly, are a lot more pressing than the design issues)
Coat's a little plain. There's no buttons, no cuffs, just a coat that looks like it's made from purple plastic bag material. Some detail in the same pale yellow as the hat's details would work.
The pauldron seems strange and out of place. The orange of the leather looks terrible next to the purple coat, it doesn't make sense as armor because of the tiny coverage, he's not using it as a bandolier to carry anything, and if it's supposed to be decorative it doesn't look very ornate.
The hat is decent, but you've drawn the teeth very 2d. I'm not sure if the central thing is a candle of some sort or a nasal guard.
The undershirt (armor?) looks like he'd stab his throat out if he looked down.
Also some major problems with the basic anatomy:
Don't draw hair like a bunch of lines, but a single shape.
Don't make the back of a character's head concave. The skull is basically a sphere.
>>81230926
thanks for the feedback, mate
Yeah my anatomy is probably awful atm i definately need to focus on that and the design was kind of bugging me as well. His cloak is way too bland for my taste and I need to try to give it more design.
thanks again
I created the title and background image for my website.
What do you think of the title?
Thanks for the INPUT, Anonny Five!
>>81221064
14 years. 2000 wasn't a leap year. also not technically part of this century.
>>81221212
i'm not terribly proud of it. i just had to get it out of me, and this is one of only two circuseses in the comic. the other is faggy vampires. but not like the twilight kind, the fruity french kind.
Honestly this little arc isn't working at all, but I had like NO ideas and this is all I could cobble together. I'm desperately thinking of ways to tie it into the upcoming big thingy so it seems less pointles.
I was wondering, what can you do to get into the mood of writing scenes or dialogue for your comics? I recently went to a convention, and asked some of the writers there for tips. One said to just try out scenes and see what works. Another said she was excited about her writing, and that it helps if you are excited about writing for your characters and where they will take you in the story.
I'm wondering if theres anything else I could do to get the writing juices flowing. I have plenty of ideas for scenes and characters. And I am pretty happy when I get inspiration and write it down. So if anyone else has some good tips for me. I would love to hear them.
>>81232885
how do you stay this bad for 14 years? how do you stay motivated to keep doing your comic the way it is when no one reads it?
>>81224366
so glad to hear you're doing more.
fuck social media, dude. i don't even
>>81225071
also that one thing with the blind girl and her helper robot, right?
>>81227005
are you me?
>>81227051
i would darken the shading on the green bits so the letters don't quite melt together as much. Then it will be absolutely perfect.
>>81227330
loving that improved shoulder anatomy on the nudes. Now look at the one wearing a shirt. see how the armpits of the shirt go up too high, and are too angular? think about the shoulder underneath when you draw the shirt.
>>81229320
>how to incorporate him
what kind of duties does he have? when i heard lackey for deity he's in love with, I thought Pit immediately. in any case, whatever his duties are, that will tell you how to story.
Doing something kind of experimental with Ennui GO! today. We'll see if it works.
>>81232997
By improving the same as everyone else, except slower. So slow you don't notice it. I don't notice it either, til I feel like getting lazy and copying old art, and realize I can't because I made some ridiculous mistakes back then I'd never make now (sometimes I recycle it anyway and just fix it)
In each area, I have no idea how I improved, no idea how I need to improve now, no idea how to induce it. but it just does improve on its own... very slowly.
as for motivation.. fuck, if I stopped drawing them, they'd stop living! can't have that. Pretty much the only thing I have going for my life, the only thing that'd be missed if I died.
>>81232516
>spook
These guys don't seem spooky at all, honestly.
Monsters, sure, but not scary or creepy or spooky.
>>81233578
how would you suggest one goes out there?
>>81235005
fraid I don't have any better ideas. most comics I know that got big, got a shout out from another popular comic that was like 'holy shit look at this haha it's so weird'
>>81235005
social media. the other anon is just a retard.
just updating with the layout I went with for today. Setting it aside until tomorrow.
>>81227051
I'd drop the black outlines on the mossy bits to dark green, and increase the contrast of the shading on the letters.
I think the lettering area could do with being higher contrast overall, and the moss a little desaturated. I'm not entirely sure about that left-hand dangling root either...
>>81235043
feels like im on the right track then
>>81235121
also, you
to answer your question
me personally i understood where you were coming from when you first posted
that was me personally though
i understood it all
>>81235220
The moss is already outlined dark green, but I guess I should lighten it a tad if it's being seen as black, haha.
For the lettering area, do you mean the letters themselves or te red paint behind it? I've had another person tell me it could be a bit more saturated.
I kinda like the root myself, but I might shorten it, maybe put a couple more down there, just so it's not drawing too much attention.
>>81235242
That's good to know. Then I just hopefully made the fraction of people who get it a little higher.
>>81235981
i'd keep the red as-is, it's perfect. more saturation would be blinding
but the green could use a touch more saturation and definitely more contrast with the darker shading green
>>81235981
>do you mean the letters themselves or te red paint behind it?
A little bit of both. Try darkening the red paint a little, and boosting the contrast of the shading on the lettering.
The dangling slime droplet seems to be hanging at a slight angle instead of true vertical.
So how do you guys sketch out your pages before coloring/lining and so on? And do you do sketch a lot of pages at a time?
I just sketched this page and the previous page, and I'm planning to do a few more before I start releasing finished pages again to help me be more consistent.
>>81236615
I try to get down just enough information so that future-me knows what pose I want in that shot, and what the scale and perspective should be. also, expressions.
>>81223242
>Mood/Tone
The idea is that The Sisters is supposed to feel sorta like an 80s movie at its bet, and like some CW bullshit at its worst. Tone-wise, something that gets more serious as it goes on while still trying to pretend that everything is slice of life. I'd say we want to be more Fright Night than Roger Corman, but there's nothing wrong with Corman at times. Ideally we want things to feel grounded in character logic, so leaps and jumps make sense for those within the world but seem like bad ideas to us as readers.
>Target Demographic
Honestly, I just wanted something I could appreciate myself. A lot of urban fantasy goes too gonzo too quick; and almost all of it ignores its Americana roots in noir. So we opted to make it a little more Brick than Maltese Falcon, and avoid elves, vamps and shit; as well as any paranormal investigations proper. We do have a large trans audience apparently, and ideally we want the teen-to-young adult crowd without having to appeal directly to them in a derivative fashion.
>>81224089
Slice of life is an interesting genre, and those are my favorite parts to write. Unfortunately they're the least interesting parts to get drawn. When we get to do those parts, I try to center them around familial disharmony, class differences within a group, and cowardice being the way to a safe but rarely easy life. Plus secrets.
>>81232976
>Writing scenes/dialogue.
I watch TV for interesting dynamics and I frankly just enjoy conversations. I also get into weird fucking situations, so that helps with scenes. I'd say remember body language and most people don't state the whole of why they think something, they just think it---why is often shown through action and repetitive behavior.
And always rewrite your scenes after you read them aloud a few times. And maybe have someone else look at them too.
Honestly, once you have dynamics down; making them interact in an interesting way is the fun part.
>>81224089
two bickering half-sisters learning how to bond with one another while raising a duckling they found
>>81236615
Pretty much this >>81236804
Just enough that I know how it'll be laid out.
>>81233647
>are you me?
Is one of your story's inspirations Grim Fandango too?
New Ennui GO! strip! This one is an interactive flash "game". Gotta click on the panel to make it do stuff.
http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/
>>81236615
Have you considered thumbnailing? I know you're working digitally but working on a smaller scale gets it done so much faster without losing effectiveness. Plus you're not wasting time on unnecessary details
Pic related are the thumbnails I did for a four page comic
>>81239399
Those do look like they were done really quick, but I'm not sure how useful they'd be at that level of detail.
>>81239399
>>81239483
Kek, I dun goofed
>>81238710
no, but everything i hear about grim fandango's story makes me think i shouldnt have written it off for its crummy artstyle
after all psychonauts turned out to be great
Trying to revise the first page of my comic.
>>81239231
hahahahaha. reminds me of the state of gaming just before 'apps' got huge. when we had 500 'be a waiter/bartender/chef' games
>>81239528
Man, your shitty thumbnails are way more detailed than my full-sized sketches.
>>81240097
i'm shipping her with kevin from kevin no daibouken pretty hard
![1N0UjV3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9nAHKIK.jpg "1N0UjV3[1].jpg")
>>81240257
>ever having Kevin cheat on his true waifu
>I was a bit put off by the art style but I really like the humour.
What's wrong with my art style?
>>81240057
I really wanna play the Grim Fandango remaster, I never played the original but hear it's great. I'm super into other Lucasarts Point and Clicks so.
>>81240852
Well your perspective's completely fucked, for starters.
Your lines are fat and wobbly in a lot of places.
Your anatomy is really inconsistent and in distant shots it gets absolutely terribad (like, the girl at the pole in panel 1).
>>81240852
>
the whole thing is terrible. consider deleting everything
>>81240852
Well, the art is pretty rudimentary, to put it lightly.
>>81241412
>>81241746
Thank you for your observations. I'll work on those.
>>81241465
You're a barrel of fun, aren't you?
>>81241886
>You're a barrel of fun, aren't you?
can't say the same for your comic
Alright, tried out a few things, changed some colors, tried changing the red to purple, I kinda like it but not sure if it's the right shade.
>>81241412
just to nitpick, that's not the style
>>81242111
oooh gotta admit that purple makes the green stand out a lot better.
>>81242111
>GREEN AND PURPLE
This is a lot better. If not at least for the meme/stoner audience who will automatically click it on seeing the color scheme.
>>81242418
>>81242497
Hahaha thanks, yeah, I think it looks better, was looking at the logo for Grabbed by the Ghoulies.
>>81225071
So slice of life is code for pedo bait on /co/?
WIP of the next page!
>>81247391
oh man, it's everybody. and theyre all facing the same direction!
oops, typo on battle
>>81247391
Does Annabeth have a vagina?
![JADALBRS002d[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/HEXw6jN.png "JADALBRS002d[1].png")
Heyo, still working on the crossover comic. Now I know it can't be shorter than 6 pages... fick me sideways.
Anyway, feedback on this new page will be appreciated. Forgot the dialogue, my bad.
>>81247808
Well yeah, where else would an audiance be facing? The guy not on the stage?
>>81247928
I don't know man, if only that darn shadow wasn't in the way we would know for sure!
>>81224366
Holy shit. This is good stuff. Where can I find more?
>>81247391
You appear to have gotten worse at drawing since the last time I checked these threads.
>>81247391
Ut desint vires, tamen est laudanda voluntas
this phrase pretty much sums up my opinion of you, dewd.
>>81249097
Eh, drawing every character in the series isn't an easy feat.
>>81249105
Thanks man!
>>81249223
Starting from the top for some reason clearly didn't help. There's a lot you could have done to avoid the reverse-perspective you ended up with. A lot of your options were super easy too.
>>81249311
reminds me so much of me when I was young. I once drew every character in smash bros melee.. WITH a mouse. with the game on my tv so I could reference the trophies. then I tried pasting them all together into one collage.. with no plan. the results were pretty goddamn mixed, but it was my biggest project at the time
>>81249684
well I say young. younger. I was dewd's age.
>>81249709
How old is that? Is dewd underage?Serious question. I started drawing "seriously" young, so I'm not sure what's typical for a given age.
>>81249790
pretty sure there is no typical. i've been drawing since before I can remember. but there's a big difference between just your hobby and studying in earnest.
and no he's not underageanymore
He's supposed to be a stressed businessman that acts like he owns the world. He can't stand being at the bottom, and lashes out at authority. He's put in charge of a dying company essentially as a fall guy while the other, smarter people jumped ship before they were dragged down with it.
Basically he doesn't see past the fact that he's now the boss, and believes he can right the ship.
>>81250783
that sounds really interesting. he acts like he owns the world, yet he's at the bottom? but he's in charge?
anyway it'll be pretty interesting to see how this goes. and the art's nice, though I'd raise his cranium higher. It's never good if your face is bigger than your braincase.
>>81251136
plus with more forehead room his eyebrows could actually raise in surprise without smacking into his horns. i used to really hate forehead horns but they're totally growing on me. better than temple-mounted horns anyway. actually even WITHIN the on-the-top placement category i can never decide whether I like them on the front corners of the cranium or the rear, or in between..
>>81240097
my friend says you should make her point the computer in the last panel with the same face, as if asking her mom wtf is on the computer
>>81251136
>he acts like he owns the world, yet he's at the bottom? but he's in charge?
He works hard which is why he's noticed at all, but he's thick headed. The former boss, a succubus, even explained to him in plain English that he was essentially going to be a fall guy.
She knows all too well that all it takes with him is the idea of power, and something to prove.
The thing to understand is that villains live in a neutered world because they got rich and lazy -- This guy's lust for corporate power is just compensation for his lack of proficiency in being an actual demon, and doing demon things. All of it driven home by the way he was raised, and how he always felt inadequate even from a young age.
>>81249311
Oh no, I started from the bottom of the panel, I just got a little tired when I got to the top.
>>81251613
oh okay, so he's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z17rrnRRHDM
keep on truckin', thread. i'm gonna have a special holiday comic for you tomorrow.. and .. i mean the tomorrow after tomorrow because it's past midnight now
>>81233963
>en 19 y 47
>Repito, 10 y 47
Typo?
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>>81255024
thank you for this effort. im starting to wonder if he's ever going to appear again, but at least some of stuff can be persevered.
>>81248997
I currently started to resume
I am thinking of changing art style since the only negative criticism I got was on that
here was something I was working on but I scrapped it 'cause it hit too close to home
I actually did this when heavily intoxicated but it was too close to a self insert that yeah, fuck it
do i continue with the shitty mouse to ms paint and get carpal tunnel? I can show some of my sketches and how I can better art but this just seems fitting
while I am here:
>>81255338
one thing that i really enjoy are faces that never change
kind of like when I watched madoka with my ex
shit sucked, but qb was too entertaining
keep up with this formula, man
>>81247995
when i tried my hand at the tablet few weeks ago (tablet fucking lags on me) my strokes were similar to yours. I also can't mangle bodies like you do. I like what you did with the first panel.
I'm gonna start working on some new shit
>>81223242
eh, i got oblivon and a bunch of awesome mods and got distracted from drawing for a few days, doing some fan art for uknown lands cuz its the artists birthday today
hopefully this is a warm up and i will keep drawing after this
hopefully my videogame addiction wont get me lost in video games for the rest of the week when i should be drawing non stop until my hands fall off
but i will probably just watch netflix and start playing my modded to hell version of oblivion which is giving me tons of nostalgia highs instead of drawing more stuff after this, fuck my life
just....
>>81247808
Did your mother just not hug you or something?
>>81256138
I wish I could have a stroke like this digitally. My hands are too shaky for that.
I tried to practice for digital drawing, but it doesn't look good. Until I get the gist of it, I'm sticking to markers and paper.
>>81256175
bump
>>81256138
>thinking of changing art style
I mean, by all means fuck around and tinker with it. But I like what you've got going so far. It fits the content.
>>81256388
I'd do the same dude, but finally I decided fuck it, and I started this way
Give it a shot, my hands shake too, in fact at the end of all this, when I would go to bed, and wake up in the middle of the night, you know how your arm falls asleep? yeah well, the two last fingers on my right hand would be asleep.
shit's scary
>>81256175
first off good shit, I like your shadowing.
I can't even color for shit.
but if I had to go with a style, I would go with the one on right, solely cause the blur on the middle one looks like some art for "how to be a vampire" on wikihow
far right is more cleaner
and the one on far left is like the extent of my ability when it comes to using my laggy ass bamboo wacom
pic attached
hold on
no its not good at all
you got better strokes
Bump?
>>81262241
>>81260395
>>81259167
bump with content at least? I am working on something now,
I'll bring up my post with some old shit
some villain gymnast i came up with who has an aversion to clothes but has an affinity for different kinds of skin tone like girls picking out dresses for prom
just posting my wip colours to keep the thread alive. (Very wip)
So I ended up with empty space at the top. What should we fill it with?
>>81264094
Honestly it seems to work just fine with the empty space.
I'm thinking of creating a Doctor Who fan comic but I'm having trouble trying to come up with a high concept, something that would act as a hook to get peoples interest.
Heres one
The Mysterious Foe,
a team go in search of a mysterious Alien race that could be responsible for attacks on colonies. Is that interesting or too generic?
The sneakiest of peeks at Saturday's page~
i've hit a slump and can't think of ideas. will drugs help me be more creative? anyone have experience with doing a comic on drugs?
>>81266172
Dude, Just watch a movie or cartoon.
>>81255420
wow i never noticed before that persevere is an anagram for e-preserve, which is presumably what you meant
>>81256138
get a tablet but by all means continue using one-pixel lines, it just.. fucking WORKS dude. eventually youll find a way to evolve this into something that looks 'better' but still delightfully shitty
>>81256312
dude i'm like dewd's biggest supporter. don't be that oversensitive on his behalf. that was meant to be a celebratory statementmy mom hugs me like, constantly
>>81265784
the hook in a doctor who story is the weird premise, and the promise of a twist at some point
i come up with doctor who stories constantly. it's a damn disease. i'll share them with you if you want
>>81265784
>Doctor Who fan comic
No.
>>81267677
I think that's the problem, the ideas I've came up with rely on the story being longer, there is a twist with the 'foe' and what goes into their motivations.
I should come up with something high concept and like Midnight or Blink.
another one i was thinking of was 'The Lovecraftian Zoo' a secret facility where they keep dangerous beings that seem out of place in the universe, similar to the boneless from Flatline.
The trouble is that I might up with too many monsters to worry about.
>>81267872
no such thing as too many monsters. when you're writing in a larger setting like that, it takes care of them.
What you guys reommend for someone trying to get better at drawing. I know it's a broad question but just in general what kind of tips can be shared?
Basically just draw, draw, and then draw some more?
>>81268749
pay attention to the shapes you're making. but even if you can't, draw those shapes a lot. part of you is paying attention (brainstem i think?)
try doing things from other angles a lot. imagine holding the thing in your hand. i can't tell you how many times i've been like "no.. this needs to be a straight line at this angle,... right?" and then turned it over a few times mentally and finally realized 'nope. curved. it's a dome cut in half, so even though that cut in half line is straight when viewed head on, it's a curve from this angle because it's a curved dome'
>>81268749
Perhaps you should ask the Batman thread this, it's more their wheelhouse.
>>81224366
continuation from here!
FINALLY.
FUCK.
Here I go.
Wow, it's uh, I'm starting to think I should keep this on /co/ and 4ch pretty much. So much for social media.
Posting this on tumblr would be a deathwish.
Which I don't have but was thinking of making one so I can get my work out there but yeah no fuck idk.
>>81267586
I got a tablet, I practiced using it now, it's too shit. I got a gift card for Best Buy somewhere and I plan on getting a new tablet. The one I have is like 6 years or so. My ex put shit on it too, which is taboo.
>>81270284
>it's too shit
weird, i've never known-
>My ex put shit on it too, which is taboo.
... we're talking about a TABLET, not a tablet-pc, pit-kun.
>>81270284
i sure as fuck wouldnt put this on tumblr, no. but i wouldnt put anything on tumblr.
this is going in nutty directions man, but it has your great voice to it
>>81262452
>bump with content at least?
No. The thread will die if we're pressured to do that every single time.
>>81268749
If you can draw simple shapes well, you can draw anything well.
Always use reference when you can.
Focus on improving just one thing at a time.
Always remember to find out how to make studies interesting and fun. When at all possible, find a way to apply the thing you want to learn to the thing you would draw for fun, rather than the other way around.
For learning perspective, learn how to draw a box in perspective and then learn how to turn that box into the thing you're trying to draw.
Still trying to rustle up the discipline to stop and draw strips again. Posted a first draft of this the other week. Here's a progress update:
Tightened up the pencils. Had the idea of turning part of the titlebar into the guy's thoughtbubble.
Any seriously wrong with the perspective in panel 1? Is the table the right size or is he 12 feet tall and sitting in a hole? I thought about swapping the standing and sitting exhibitors next to him, so there would be a line from his face to the furries. Feedback appreciated.
>>81272388
hey nice perspective man. this is good stuff
but I think they are definitely much higher than him (as they should be, them standing and him sitting) in the first panel but then by the 3rd and 4th they're his same height
>>81272482
Sounds like something to fix; I tried to show him standing up in panel 2, so 3 and 4 are okay. Now that I look at panel 1, he does seem to be a little larger than he should be (maybe it's the sze of his head?).
Thanks for spotting that.
>>81272653
well i mean, look at the height of the table. his visible upper body is higher than that. but it should be, it'd be weird if you were any shorter than that. what you wanna do is LOWER the table in panel 3 and 4 (see how it's up at their elbow level)
still, honestly youre getting close to overthinking.. something nobody is gonna notice.
>>81272711
That IS easier... fixed now!
Finish coloring it! Do you think that It looks awesome to you guys?
>>81234744
Oh...Well, I going to make a REALLY scary monster villain. I going to show you and the guys. A ghost witch that cover herself with the skin of her victims.
>>81272904
now i mean.. in panel 1, the table height is also kind of high, it seems to go up to their waists. but.. some of that is short cartoon legs. so don't worry too much about it.
i will say it's a little odd how the furries seem to have big heads in the first panel, but later their heads are relatively small. so i dunno if those are the 'big mascot head' furries or not.
>>81272388
Panel 1 doesn't seem too bad. Even if comic guy doesn't have cartoonishly short legs like the furries, he's not outrageously tall (like half a head taller than them), though the table seems pretty tall in comparison to the furries. Maybe they're just short.
If anything bothers me, it's probably how the top of the fursuit's snouts and heads are visible, despite being above the horizon.
Panels 3 and 4 do have a perspective problem. If the viewer is at the height of the table, you should be able to see the underside of the characters and comics guy should be lower because he's farther away, but if the viewpoint is at the height of their eyes, the table surface should be visible.
The last panel feels really flat for the same reason - if we're below the table top, his hands should be obscured, if we're above it, the surface should be visible. Being exactly at that height feels really awkward.
>>81273553
>Being exactly at that height feels really awkward.
a problem my comic had for fucking YEARS
>>81273553
You're right, I can't cheat my way out of that. Must remember to make more of an effort to think about perspective.
>>81273435
Yeah, those are mascot-head furry fans, so I've adjusted those heads too.
>>81273885
Must remember to make more of an effort to think about posting the image as well.
>>81273885
>>81273950
Make the furries' legs a little longer in the first panel and I think you've just about got it.
I'd feel remiss in talking about perspective and not posting this pdf which is super useful.
http://www.storytellerartist.com/documents/Perspective_Made_Easy.pdf
>>81255338
might want to change the wording from "is that you thomas?" to just "t-tomas?" it conveys the same meaning but the stutter shows surprise/nervousness and the informal question shows the kid considered them close and casual
also the last panel the tomas' pose in the flashback is a bit wonky, and his ear as a ghost is causing a tangent with the panel, might want to just have both ears protrude the borders
I need a little help with my website. I purchased a subscription with squarespace and while its super user friendly, I want it to be the best it can be to host my comic.
I don't want it to look too amateur, so I'm looking for suggestions or someone with experience. Anyone willing to point me in the right direction. The site is obviously under construction.
www.veiledandvile.com
>>81277680
hitting 'prev' from the main page goes to the 'undefined' url, which is the same as the 'comic' url you get to when you click archives.
prev seems to work fine on the past pages, but on those past pages, hitting 'today' takes you to that same 'undefined' archive page but with more junk in the URL
looks like you have some sorting out to do
>>81277680
I have to allow scripts on your site to properly read it, which in my book is a major strike against it. A webcomic doesn't need scripts in order to be properly read.
>>81278105
Its an issue with the coding, I think. There are very few comic templates for squarespace out there to choose from.
I have no experience in coding so I just linked "Prev" to the archive because it was originally providing an error page. This was just a jury rig solution.
>>81278382
Another issue I suppose. I don't even know how to fix that but it's probably why my mate couldn't read it either. Like I said I am very new to this.
I have an ongoing comic but am having trouble displaying it elegantly.
Should I do a CYOA with these two?
>>81278382
same. i wasnt going to say anything because i find that's true for like 30 percent of sites. the problem is my computer is shit and sometimes decides not to show me what's being blocked until i restart firefox, so for a while there i was like 'wow this site REALLY EXTRA doesnt work / look good'
>>81278513
sure why not
what kinda antics do they get up to?
>>81278601
I've already come up with how it ends, I just need to think up of something for the begining.
Some thing elder scrolls-y.
Or just them in a normal world trying to get some treasure.
>>81278856
>I've already come up with how it ends
>CYOA
>>81278911
Well, these things usually have to end some how.
Either way, it really depens on how the commanders do to determine how quckly they get to this end.
Who knows, maybe people will surprise me and this end won't be sodark.
>>81278911
isnt that how they usually work?
>>81251321
but why though.
>>81280148
as if it was her mom watching it not her
>>81241412
>>81241746
I tried to work on my perspective and add more to the figures. How did it turn out?
Alright, I have the first panel of Grabbus: A Game of Gold done.
Where should I do this bad boy, tumblr, or /tg/?
>>81282447
Tumblr.
/tg/ has enough quests it doesn't need.
>>81283711
What's that one webcomic theme called?
>>81284317
https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
this is the one bug quest uses
>>81284463
Cool, thanks, here's the new site
http://grabbus.tumblr.com/
>>81284502
little tip: bigger, clearer text
once you set it up so people can ask without having a tumblr account, i'll give you an ask
>>81284609
Ok, it's set up at the moment.
>>81284777
You lucky dewd.
I really don't know how to used tumblr. It is so...weird to me.
>>81285744
oh hey is that fanart of >>81273434 's guy?
>>81285864
>Fan-art.
More like art-trade.
Boon (A superior artist) gave this to me.
>>81285937
not boon possumfeffer... ?
>>81285961
That his name?
Man, I should start following people. I used to being a anonymous and hide from my shame (terrible comics).
>>81286059
well it doesn't look like her work, but it doesn't not either
it would just be neat if we knew the same person
>>81286115
So, Anon.
What do you think of the web-comic page? It is cool?
http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/post/141993453185/first-comic
>>81286492
well it does the job okay, but the logo sure needs work. especially how your username appears atop it
>>81273434
I really like this character - they're really fun to draw!!
still not done on first page, needs a name.
>>81287873
Wow, I didn't expect fan art.
You really got her personality down.
>>81225841
Sounds like you don't actually want to make a webcomic then. I'd say pursue something you actually have drive for.
anyone have experience with merchandising before? like plushes, mugs, posters.
any errors before posting?
>>81288514
not much experience i'm afraid, but I know a thing or two.. for one thing, plushes are never cost-effective. unless you're HUGE you won't be able to get someone to want them enough to pay what they cost
posters are cheap, but again you have to get someone to REALLY like your comic before they're gonna be into the idea of buying one. you can, however, sell arts and prints at a medium-high popularity level finding a good printer is another thing entirely.
places that print merch for you do tend to have mugs but i can't imagine why. do people want those? i dunno. i always wished i could get my art printed on folders. folders are great! you can put other art in them.
But for the most cost-effective stuff you go with stickers, keychains, buttons. Those you can get a decent deal on and hand them out and people will actually kinda enjoy them.
>>81288942
apostrophe in name's and it's
as for 'ring out' instead of rings out, i take it he's being pretty 'street' in that bit so i dunno whether to correct it
Starting work on my DC submission to their talent search. Trying to nail down a design for the characters I'm using. Buddy is obvious, going with that classic jacket look, but I'm giving him aviators instead of his goggles.
Villain is going to be Divine from the Winick PG series. Still working on a design for her.
eh what the hell, little preview of friday's comic. i'll have to make sure i finish it up tomorrow so it can be up all day
took me a while to find/fake all the fonts. and i'm gonna try to preserve the lineart style but not bend over backwards or use screentones (those arent used very consistently anyway, certainly not recently)
was originally going to have kaen in Archie style for some reason. that's not a newspaper comic.. just kind of appropriate
also was going to do some hagar the horrible shit with sasha since that's her oeuvre and someone here suggested it, but for people who arent beardyfaced it's not very recognizable.
>>81289534
Can I see some paneling?
Not sure I'm feelin' the barnacles on here, but I want something to go in the empty space on the sides. Any suggestions?
>>81290244
shit dude i love 'em. they're so uneven and subtly gross in a way that really says a lot about the johnKness of your art
buuuut at the same time they are kinda out of place since everything else is swampy. How about cockroaches?
>>81290220
None yet, doing character designs so far. I've got a script, but that always seems to change drastically from script to thumbnails to panel layouts.
>>81290270
I actually wonder if the SWAMPY stuff is what's out of place. I kinda wanna play up the seafaring/piratey nature of the series a little bit more, which is why I went with drift wood.
>>81290294
Well I mean paneling and page composition is far more important than design and figures, it's a graphic medium submission, not a design contest.
>>81290374
Sure. And that's next. I've got an entire month to do five finished pages. Once I've got more to show I'll def be posting it ITT to get feedback. I want this shit to be flawless before I send it in.
>>81290307
oh. well yeah you could do that too.
hell why not make different ones for different chapters? swampy stuff for the first one, then later if they get more oceany, put back the barnacles, change the moss to seaweed, the vines to fishhooks, and the mushrooms to coral.. and that snail in the back can be a crab instead, but only you'll know because it's the same eyestalks
>>81290510
That'd be a lot of extra work, but it's a great idea. I'll keep it in mind!
>>81290533
i hear that, yeah. but from >>81290307 it sounded like you were gonna redo it anyway.
make new things but keep the old, one is mildew, the other is mold!
>>81290150
Love 'em.
Is anybody currently holding down a full time job and update week to week as well?
>>81247391
I appreciate the naked lil girl u have there at the bottom
I appreciate it alot
>>81292717
Let's see some real work then
>>81293609
Oh, I am not saying I am keeping up that way. I am asking if somebody who does can share their experience. I work nightshift and I was unable to even update once a week. I was wondering if anybody manage to keep up. How to mange time, energy and ways to keep motivated.
>>81290150
Oh shit I just woke up and my eyes are all crusty and took me a while to notice you played around with a couple of styles. It's nice to have that wide range and able to do that sometimes. I'm working on it.
I'm a fan, tell me where I can read more.
>>81290244
Honestly, what the guy said about cockroaches would be a little too much detail, but the one thing that bothered me, (I struggle with title/logos and background a lot, oh and coloring) would be that the word Urchin has too many jagged edges, like you dragged your pen up and down a lot. Maybe smooth out the edges? That's just me and don't listen to me though. I do enjoy the title and if ever I want a title I'll go to you. (Or try to learn myself)
Speaking of learning, where the fuck can I learn to color?
My entire life I've had the pen to paper even in class, where I would flunk classes for not paying attention 'cause I was drawing. 25 now and I never colored for jack.
Ah, coffee is made.
The extent of my coloring for a drawfag thing.
I present to you MSpaint and 10 minutes.
>>81293727
Fuck, I forgot this.
This is the style I aim for when I get better.
What kind of pen did you use?
You've given me inspiration to ditch the digital.
>>81289534
Sweet.
Good luck.
>>81293892
>Speaking of learning, where the fuck can I learn to color?
Theory of color:
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/011.php
How to color lineart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDlmLYvWjE
I got a weird idea the other day. I have a lot of story ideas in my head, all for different comics. Well, I though of ways that I could link the comics together so the readers know they take place in the same universe.
Is this too much of a stretch? (I know im getting really ahead of myself but I like to plan out my stories)
>>81295729
Make sure you don't accidentally limit your stories by doing so. For example, if in one story the protagonist is a wizard, everyone will expect magic to work the same in all the other comics as it does in his and will feel cheated if it doesn't. Or someone might wonder why the protagonist from comic X doesn't show up in comic Y to help save the day, when the story works much better if the protagonist of Y works alone. It might also rob the story of oomph if there's a big enough scale difference - like, sure, Y's sister has been kidnapped by vampires, but who even cares about that when X is saving the entire universe from Cthulhu monsters at the same time?
That said, it's not like you can't do it, just consider the costs and benefits of having all your stories take place in the same universe.
Bump. I gotta wtch this when I get home.
anyone care to share their be all end all lessons/links on perspective?
>>81295965
Yeah I know what you mean.
What I have planned is that the end of some stuff will tie in by giving hints to the next story. I only plan on having a handful of characters actually cross with other storylines.
But I see how having that can be a big mess it I set myself up for it
>>81299193
You saw this one, right?
>>81274468
As for your image, it really should have had a third vanishing point.
Check out the chapter in the pdf starting on pg 105, it'll show you how to keep things like the center stripes in the road and the divisions in your sidewalk looking consistently sized.
>>81291667
now there's a reaction shot
>>81292717
i did for years.
never again
>>81256731
started on a new page of demon juice
>>81293727
i think your issue is how... complex your art is. this normally isn't a bad thing but given your work i think you need to cut back on some details.
>>81293892
I've always been good at newspaper comic styles. I don't LIKE them, but they're so easy to me. Just a lot of symbols to memorize, which my robotic-ass brain loves. my comic was originally intentionally made of symbols in the same way, mimicking sprite comics. then over time tried to branch out
>tell me where I can read more.
prepare for disappointment! http://kiwidayn.comicgenesis.com
>>81293892
well I was thinking powerpuff girl style cockroaches, just an oval with a T on the back and two antennae, and maybe tiny stick legs poking out if even that.
I think the jagged edges of the lettering are meant to evoke a 'paintbrush on wood' look
>>81295965
This is very good advice
HOWEVER
I think shared universes can work VERY well with 'tiers' as it were. nobody wonders why spider-man never/rarely showed up to fight dormammu, because that's dr strange's territory. in my comic, wizards handle cosmic shit. powerful superheroes handle big monster shit. regular martial artists handle thieves and thugs. nobody really expects them to intrude on each others' rackets
>>81300526
hopefully word balloons will hide how bad the art is from making this page way to fast
>>81301517
yeah its done, hope yall like it
more pages here if anyone cares lol: http://demonjuice.thecomicstrip.org/
>>81302924
LITERALLY THE WORST PAGE OF DEMON JUICE IVE MADE SO FAR!
and ive made some pretty bad pages, ffs
>>81302924
seriously just...
the only good thing about this page is i made it in just an hour start to finish, really fast even for me
>>81300608
Yeah, the jagged letters were on purpose, but I can tone em down if it's too much!
>>81302924
fixed the 3rd panel for what its worth, it still looks like shit but at least its consistent now
i will make up for it on the next page which will be beyond amazing to make up for how bad this page is
ok im gone now, peace
>>81303439
I think it's fine. the only problem is how the letters run together quite so much. darkening the shading on the letters further would help with that. or even just a few dark scratchy lines at the edges where they touch.
but up close it's fine. it's only vague at a distance
man /co/ is fast today
>>81308249
Just let the thread die.
>>81250783
more stuff
>>81309249
I like this guy.
>>81309249"Yes, you have to file those TPS reports. If you don't do it this year, we can't do them next year. And they've got to be done."
"No, we can't just get an intern to do it."
-
"Just because I don't wear a tie, doesn't mean you get to wear whatever tie you want. I don't care if you got that singing tuna-fish tie for Secret Santa; it isn't proper work attire."
"NO, casual Friday does not mean Hawaiian shirts and cargo pants. It means you don't have to color coordinate your pocket square. If someone came in here right now, they'd look at you and think we're a Parrothead Convention rather than A LEGITIMATE CORPORATE ENTITY."
>>81303815
if you think it looks bad, then take the extra time to fix it.
Don't you want more quality over quantity?
>>81223242
The Sisters updated with a five pager, end of issue 8 "The Lies." Something of a cliffhanger. This week: Erin and Connor make a mistake.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapastic.com/episode/320188
Next week, we start "The Truth", which takes place 45 to an hour after these pages. Like, an hour and fifteen minutes tops.
How's everyone?
little reminder that i'm updating again.
hello /hyw/ community, i'm a member of Bibliotheca Anonoma (http://bibanon.org), a organization of people archiving internet folklore. we have come here due to a by chance notice of our name being mentioned in a previous thread of this general(http://desustorage.org/co/thread/81060595/#81186780), and would like to encourage the anon who posted this to do what he inquired to do if they still wish it, and if wanted, to come to our irc(#bibanon @ rizon.net) to further discuss the matter without cluttering up this thread. anyone else is welcomed to visit our irc,site or wiki(https://github.com/bibanon/bibanon/wiki) if they wish
happy discussing -bibanon team
>>81310422
glad to hear it, i love your work
that horse though... good gravy, that is not a good horse, i'm sorry.
>>81310085
That fucking grin
that t-shirt
that cliffhanger
>>81310422
Man, I usually like your art, but the basic shapes of that horse are totally fucked and it's ruining the image.
>>81310422
i want to fuck that slut
>>81310798
People keeps telling me i draw weird ass horses since chap. 3. I still need to work in that balance.Although there are better transport critters and vehicles in Anterra planned anyway.
>>81311021
i think you'd be better off saying it's some kind of strange syndactyl cow
>>81311107
i think he's better off just drawing porn of that girl
It's coming along
I don't know if this dialogue is even funny. Ugh.
Character design for a short film. Is there anything I could improve on? I know the arms are a bit long and in a weird position, this is kinda a "t-pose"-type thing
A little info:
Short film takes place millennia in the future
The character isan immortal warrior spurred on by his undying desire to get his copy of Mario Galaxy back from a girl he lent it to in high school (who has now become the immortal god-empress of the world)
Right arm is a wooden mechanical arm, spins like a drill and can shoot out on a chain
Right leg is also mecha but it doesn't really do anything cool
>>81311490
His head is so big it could get really awkward to pose him for action scenes without cheating. Like, he can't get his elbow above his head.
>>81311299
HOLD UP LIL HOMIE.
That's kind of cool to see you do things different than me. I see the empirical evidence before my dick.
I normally always start with dialogue then draw, but my style's a little off. I feel when I write then draw, I can really draw the emotion.
Also that's my ex gf's routine. Are you fucking my ex gf?
>>81310422
>>81311021
the trip was dropped
and friendly reminder that I like your style
the things is you see a lot of different styles here
Man, I fucking love you guys
Question real quick
Your shadowing looks different
look at horses neck,
and chest of rosco girl
sup with that? 'ow you do dat
>>81311486
the punchline could use a liiitttle work. i couldnt read it til i enlarged it, so i almost thought she was saying 'why must you trample on my dreams'
i suppose 'no of course not, that would be stupid...' is a little too cliche
i had to look up the einherjar to get that part, though the joke works even if you don't. though it is an odd situation, the premise of joining the valkyries to escort the honored dead to the place of fighting and shit, and thinking you were going to be joining in on that fighting.. i almost expect a little tiny word balloon like "i thought they'd invite me afterwards.."
>>81311490
huh. very WindWakery. I'd still play around with the proportions a bit more, right now it's weird how most of the body is pretty well in proportion except suddenly tinylegs. like in other words, it's weird if your legs are the same length as your torso, you know? like you cant pull your knees up to your chest because they wouldn't go up high enough. thinking about poses is the best way to think about proportions and make sure they don't get TOO out of hand
the mechanical arm.. is pretty awesome, but i'd change the part that's just a ribbed tube.
his hair's kind of interesting.. with the flippy-out side bits and his general facial shape, it reminds me of Miss Hathaway from Beverly Hillbillies.. I feel like if you modified his hairline shape a bit and tweaked the sides, it'd be a lot more masculine, and really show off that awesome forelock and ponytail he's rocking.
anyway i like that plot, a lot.
and not that he's wearing the same outfit he wore when he lost his limbs i assume, but it's a bit odd that it's taken battle damage on his OTHER side.
>>81311774
>I normally always start with dialogue then draw, but my style's a little off. I feel when I write then draw, I can really draw the emotion
Well, I already have storyboards with the dialogue planned out.
>>81312214
>clothes drawn in lightly enough to pretend they're not there if i squint
win
