Remember the time 2 midget lesbian degenerates tried to hook a third midget into a lesbian 3 way on the children's cartoon?
Yeah, wasnt that some nice wholesome Christian values?
>>80896417
Fusion =/= sex
>>80896417
They're rocks, dumbass
>>80896417
Fusion isn't sex, it can be many kinds of relationship. It's like hand holding - it can be between friends, lovers, parents and children
>>80896460
>>80896514
>>80896595
I wonder what denial feels like.
Jesus christ, Marie, theyre minerals.
>>80896904
Why don't you tell us, since you can't accept fusion isn't sex? They've gone over fusion so much that it's a wonder how you still don't understand it
SO EDGY STEPHEN UNIVERSE SO EDGY IT'S LITERALLY GAY SEX ON SCREEN XD
>>80896904
>>80896417
it feels like sex at first but the metaphor brakes down the longer the show goes on and more context we get for it. Its more like a union of souls/alien experiences(from our point of view) that has been made more alien by its non traditional use
>>80896595
>it can be between friends, lovers, parents and children
they don't have parents or children
>>80897137
>Who are Greg and Steven
>>80896417
Remember the time OP cherry picked and phrased things from their favorite cartoon to make it seem more intense and progressive than it was?
Why do the fusion dances look so sensual? It's dodgy as fuck for a kids show.
>>80896417
Nice thumbnail.
>>80896417
You've never read the book of Psalms
>>80897164
Greg is human, like full pure human. Steven is no more natural than shard fusions
>>80897229
Its weird that Ruby and Sapphire have the least sexual fusion process, they generally just spin around or hug while Garnet's fusion dances are lewd as hell
>>80897229
I like that the dance styles are different. its basically to sync minds
>>80896417
>Christian
>On 4chan
Aren't you afraid of going to hell though? I mean, I've met christians on gurochan, so I'm biased but, damn, man, if I was a christian I wouldn't be on 4chan that's for sure.
>Fusion could never be a metaphor for sex!
>>80897137
no but they can have parent/child like relationships. like Rose and Amethyst
>>80896417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyQNGy2jnOg
>>80897310
"christian" depends on what doctrine you are with.I know a "christian" who faps to traps and thinks we all little bit gay
>>80896417
Fuck off Christfag.
>>80897356
Exactly. There's no way a Rose/Amy fusion could be in any way sexual, it would just be too weird. Same goes for Steven fusing with any of the gems.
>>80897310
What's bad about it if you're a Christian? Just don't participate in the "FUCK THEM KIDS" conversations.
In some threads there's some actual good conversations, you'd be missing out just because you think it's bad but you have the chance to ignore it.
>>80897333
Literally nobody said that, it just isn't always sex.
>>80897356
why do you take a group of aberrations as proof of the norm? If I said pearls are normally servants the existence of 1 pearl that is not that way would disprove my words
>>80896417
>>80897500
How does saying "they can have" imply anon is "proving the norm"? They're just saying it's possible.
>>80897310
Something something a doctor goes to where they are needed something.
>>80896417
She's a traitor who would rather kill her former friends and family than go through her government's justice system. She's not a good person.
>Expecting nice wholesome Christian values in Steven Universe
>>80897663
Steven forgives a lot, like Jesus.
CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS!
>>80897730
When's he going to die for the crystal gems sins then?
>>80897829
Christianity is too mainstream for Sucrose.
She puts in Hindu imagry instead.
>>80898159
That's why a cow like Rose is so revered
>>80898195
Why is Rose so fat? She makes Rebel Wilson look anorexic.
>>80898195
Dohohoho
>>80898195
Nice.
>>80897333
It's definately... a metaphor for a collection of physical interactions.
Base-line, same gem fusion, now that we've seen it, is additive. Three Rubies became one slightly bigger Ruby. We don't really get to see how much more effective this made them than a single Ruby. In this way, it pretty much just represents teamwork.
Garnet, on the other hand is a combination of two very different gems. They create a creature with powers greater than either base line. Garnet is appearently a better pugilist than ruby, and can see more branching probabilities than Sapphire.Though, alotof this depends on the reliability of a story she told a child on his birthday about her history.
Meanwhile, we have Malachite, which shows that the personalities can remain seperate within the fusion, and Garnet's breakdown with the introduction of the shard-beasts and Stevione talking to herself reinforces that it's not a 100% perfect union of souls.
If anything, it seems more an abstracted "Diversity is strength" message than a sex metaphor. It certianly started as a seeming sex metaphor, but seems more like a teamwork/communication/diversity one as the show goes on.
>>80896417
op stop drinking and stop being a shitty dad
>>80898243
It's heard to tell her body type because of her dress (plus her height)
> fusion is sex meme
When will it end?
>>80898413
>fusion becomes less about sex as the show goes on
You'd think it'd be the other way around.
>>80898159
>hindu imagery
Where exactly? I mean opal looks vaguely hindu but other than that there is not any
>>80898526
>>80898913
>those thighs
Bueno
Is there any Rose/Garnet r34?
>>80898526
>>80898913
Did it ever occur to Rose that she could work to shed pounds?
>>80898872
The gem's placements are on chakra points.
I don't know if it's specifically Hindu but whatever.
>>80897829
Steven is better than Jesus. He would march right up to Caesar and give him a hug.
>>80899085
>work
she can have any form she wants with 0 effort.
>>80899085
She doesn't even need to work at it, gems can look any way they want. She chooses to look thick and delicious
>>80899162
With proper diet and exercising.
Eventually, the time of the lesbian will end.
But until then, this dyke is enjoying the ride.
>>80899115
Butthole gem when?
>anyone who isn't a middle eastern psycho being religious in this day and age
>anyone actually giving a fuck about gay people existing
>>80899179
That's fat enabling.
>>80899312
I don't care, enable fatties until the cows come home of it means I get more goddesses like Rose on TV
>>80899230
That's not a dyke. That's Homer Simpson.
>>80899389
You sure?
>>80896460
when pearl tricked garnet into fusing with her multiple times=sex, would have been interesting
>>80899358
Rose is not a goddess though.
>>80899599
It's a figure of speech, you autist
>>80899639
Goddesses ain't fat you chubby chaser.
>>80897209
I was there too!
>>80897356
Amethyst wasn't always in wildchild mode, just look how on-point she was in that photo of the CGs on a boat with Garnet punching a shark. She probably fucked around with Greg before given the weird tension in Maximum Capacity and "I've seen your junk before". No way would I describe she and rose as "mother and child"
>>80897413
I doubt we will see Steven fuse with a gem. I think the workaround would be having STEVONNIE fuse with them if anything
>>80899599
> Functionally immortal unless she tries to get laid
> Has vast control over an element (plant life) and amazing healing powers
I mean people have made Gods out of less.
>>80899683
> What are fertility Goddesses
>>80899715
>I think the workaround would be having STEVONNIE fuse with them if anything
Why would fuse with someone who's 75% human?
>>80899717
I bet you think Marilyn Monroe was fat too.
>>80899777
To somewhat subvert the weirdness of having kid Steven fusing with the gems. And for a human's resistance to gem destabilizers and related homeworld tech, will be a useful boon if they ever wind up there
>>80899715
>I doubt we will see Steven fuse with a gem
I will be so fucking mad if he doesn't fuse with a gem because some retards think fusion=sex
>>80899949
You can't deny they made a STRONG, very suggestive impression of fusing early on. Hence the longstanding meme. Why would they do that?
>>80899715
>>80899894
I think fusing with Steven would be enough resistance to gem tech.
Also, it's only weird if you make it weird.
>>80899847
Last time I checked Marilyn Monroe wasn't a fertility Goddess. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive I'm saying that Rose has powers that would pass for Godly and has features that could pass for a fertility Goddess.
>>80899949
I still say he'll fuse with the cluster somehow, I really don't think they'll just kill it.
>>80899949
desu I don't think Steven can fuse with other gems, because Steven is organic and organics can't fuse with gems
>>80900035
Wouldn't fusing with Steven finally dispel that meme?
>>80900114
it would only give birth to more /ss/ memes
>>80896595
It isn't sex but it's more similar to sex than to holding hands.
>>80900094
But Steven is a gem. Well, part gem, still counts tho.
>>80900154
Sounds like a win/win solution.
>>80900060
And they made it weird again and again and again
>>80900114
Yes. But that means they took several steps back on the tone they've been setting up
>>80900094
I'm thinking the surprise and the flaw of Steven being a hybrid will show in this manner, him being only able to fuse with humans. They were all so adamant about human/gem fusion, after all. None of them know the true properties of a hybrid
>>80898413
It's really all about the relationship between the two people. Fusions embody how close their components are, and the kind of relationship they have.
Ruby and Sapphire are a close, loving couple who try to share as much of themselves as possible. The result is Garnet, a fusion so close you'd be forgiven for thinking she was just a regular Gem.
Amethyst and Pearl bicker and snipe a bunch, but they're a lot closer than either would care to admit, and they do manage to keep a good balance between them. Opal is entirely about balance and poise, and seems to carry both of their best traits.
Sardonyx is fairly functional, which shows that Garnet and Pearl are pretty close as well, though she does suffer from snobbishness and show-offedness that reflects that they're not as close as they'd like to think.
Garnet and Amethyst aren't especially close aside from being comrades in arms, so Sugilite is more or less a dumb brute who just wants to fight everything.
The Gems as a whole are fairly dysfunctional. So is Alexandrite.
Stevonnie is uncertain about who they are, intrigued by their peers but uncomfortable with acting their age, and seems to mostly be a way for Steven and Connie to have fun as a grown-up. Steven and Connie are close friends who aren't quite comfortable with taking things to the next level yet because they're a bit young for it.
Lapis and Jasper have nothing in common aside for an antipathy for the Crystal Gems, and hate each other for a multitude of reasons. Malachite, consequently, is held together by spit and doesn't even have a distinct personality.
>>80900253
*adamant about human/gem fusion not being possible
>>80900200
Organic body tho. If it wouldn't be a problem if gems could fuse with humans.
>>80899230
>lesbians get entire action cartoons where the main protagonists are all heavily implied if not outright stated to be lesbians
>gays get shitty, half baked wink wink nudge nudge literal background characters who contribute absolutely nothing
I swear to god
>>80900200
The problem is likely that you have to synch up in body and mind. Steven is 14yo and he is supposed to synch his mind with 6k years old space warriors.
He likely can't understand enough of them to manage that, not even being a human adult.
>>80900319
He managed to fuse two physical bodies, though. That should not really be possible, either.
>>80900200
Personally, I theorize that Rose created Steven as a bridge between species. He can fuse with both. That said, I don't think he will because he's just a kid, Curly.
How do you guys feel about the origin of Gems? Like do you see them as naturally occurring aliens or where they a creation made by someone else that just started doing their own thing?
>>80900357
>He managed to fuse two physical bodies, though. That should not really be possible, either.
That's the point, it was possible precisely because both bodies were organic.
>>80900060
>Neo-Rainbow Quartz
>Doesn't have 2 pairs of eyes
>>80900368
Or him not fusing with gems gives him another tie with human beings. The show seems determined to keep this balanced
>>80900371
>that pic
Gross but cool
>>80900357
I think Steven and Amethyst have a bunch in common, particularly when it comes to identity issues and feelings of isolation. They get along really well too and share a similar young/naive mindset
>>80900438
Wouldn't fusing with both humans and Gems be balanced?
>>80896417
Fuck your christian values, sex hating filth. Your prudish god isnt fit to eat the shit off of my asshole.
>>80900275
>Malachite is held together by spit
I knew lapis was mean but that's too degrading
>>80900456
>Steven and Amethyst fuse
>Forms of: Onyx, a depressed black clad goth fond of saying, "No one understands me."
>>80900473
It would be Mary Sue bullshit, it would.
>>80899715
It makes no sense to think that Steven can't eventually fuse with the Gems, especially since he can fuse with Connie, if the former wasn't possible than the latter would be as well
>>80900506
Kek
Someone please draw this
>>80900473
I'd saying fusing with humans is both a gem and human tie, but adding fusing with gems onto that ultimately tips the human/gem scale too much to the gem side
>>80900371
They're manufactured for conquest right from the get go.
>>80897599
To be fair, Homeworld are assholes even to their own.
A whole damn lot of the deceased crystal gems probably would've choose death for a cause they don't entirely believe in just to spite them.
>>80900319
>>80900357
I hear what you two are saying. The gems have light bodies, Steven is organic; and the minds have to be in synch and form a relationship strong enough to endure. However, >>80900368 is saying what I'm trying to say.
Steven is both a human and a gem, because of that he should be able to fuse with both species.
>>80900543
It's up in the air. Crewniverse can magically make it so he can't fuse with gems, just as they magically made it so he can fuse with humans (against all odds)
>>80900397
Not precisely. Steven has been shown to mature and age spontaneously under specific circumstances, but just not age normally. He is definitely not pure projection, but he is not simply flesh, either.
And from a scientific point of view, shoving two bodies into one is not possible for humans, so we deal with comparable levels of impossible, I think.
>>80900456
Possible. But I think Peridot is more similar because she is learning, still. Much like Steven.
And she has a similar analytic ear for music, so they might be able to fuse under the impression of a unifying stimulus. Like the Camp Pining Hearts opening, or such.
>>80896417
>Remember the time /co/ couldn't go a single day without shitposting over a vague lore point in a children's cartoon and trying to dissect a political statement out of it?
>Yeah, wasnt that some nice discussion value?
>>80900518
Getting a power up =/= Mary Sue.
I thought the modern viewpoint was that Christianity is bad because conservatives?
>>80900060
I don't think I've ever seen a good fanmade fusion. Feels like they always miss the design hallmarks.
>>80900629
In theory, yes.
But he will likely need to find common ground to fuse with Gems.
And then not to try with the CG, because they likely have a ton of baggage in the way.
>>80900654
He's already is set to be the leader of the Crystal Gems and is inheriting all of the mighty Rose Quartz's powers at an extremely fast rate. One inability won't undo his greatness
>>80900566
Not really seeing how; that would just tip the favor towards human.
>>80900654
Getting two polar opposite power ups because lol hybrid == Mary Sue
>>80899312
Rose's build makes sense for a warriors standpoint.
More mass means less shit is going to push you around.
>>80900500
I know you're prolly joking, but "held together by spit" just means "held together by basically nothing and probably gonna fall apart at any minute."
>>80900730
Counterpoint: he already lost healing spit and he has no offense abilities, please he's still struggling with his new abilities. Fusing with Gems could go a long way.
>>80900821
Has he? or has it just never been brought up since the geode?
>>80900745
How I rationalized it:
>fusion = gem thing
>fusing with a human = gem thing with a human element
>human fusion nets 1 gem point, 1 human point
>fusion with another gem nets 2 gem points zero human points
His being able to do both kinds of fusion would result in mostly gem points (3 gem points vs 1 human point)
>>80900371
Seeing how they reproduce by eating away the life of a planet, Id go with them being a artificial creation.
Probably created by a organic species who got destroyed by their own creations terminator style.
>>80900750
Except it's not a polar opposite power up, it's just an extension of an existing ability. If that.
A Pearl and Steven fusion would cry a lot.
>>80900821
He's only been trying to heal inanimate objects! He hasn't tried his healing powers with anything organic again yet. Plus, much easier to salivate than cry like Rose.
>>80900912
He healed Connie
>>80900842
Steven tried to use it on Peridot's missing limb enhancer.
My theory is that the spit only works on things that are "alive". (Greg's leg, Connie's eyes, Watermelon Stevens, and Lapis' gem.)
>>80900763
Oh, thought it was a typo for "spite"
>>80900945
That was after he thought his powers didn't work anymore? What ep
>>80900868
Any ability he gets will always be in favor of Gems. Unless he somehow learned a valuable skill from a human to balance it out.
>>80900879
He still gets a special unique powerup because as said before lol hybrid.
What I want is that, that unique powerup also come with its own unique flaw, so it wouldn't seem as bullshit
>>80900955
>Steven tried to use it on Peridot's missing limb enhancer.
No, he tried it on the Homeworld Warp.
>>80900759
Rose seems to be more or less Jasper with less muscle tone. They're both Quartzes, after all.
The difference is that Rose is bearmode - layer of fat over a lot of muscle, on top of a very thickset build. If you've ever seen those dudes who compete in weightlifting competitions, they often don't have much muscle tone because the fat is actually pretty helpful. Rose is (probably) like that; it's hard to tell because her dress covers so much of her.
>>80900821
Steven will never be a real fighter. Connie is the swordsman, Steven is the shield, and Stevonnie is the knight wielding both.
>>80901041
My bad, famo.
New Fag made a new thread encase you guys are interested
>>80899916
>>80901030
Maybe any gem he'd fuse with would be unstable and he can only use it for a little bit. Steven uses this chance to do some counseling with the Gems.
>>80901028
I'm thinking more of the implications as seen after Greg told his rose story to Steven and Connie.
>Greg: human beings?
>connie: human beings. (they high five)
>Human beings... (he clutched his shirt/stomach)
Not in the literal sense of whether it's more beneficial for humans or gems.
>>80901069
So basically, they're setting Steven and Connie up to be a poor man's Garnet?
>>80901185
Garnet is all offense, though.
>>80901201
I'm talking more about role than fighting style.
>>80901115
Unless the fusion ends up in menger sponges, it being "unstable" just sounds like a weaksauce weakness.
>>80900979
Well, spite also works. She exists because Jasper wanted an easy powerup and Lapis wanted to say "fuck you" to the whole conflict. Both had the motive of "I want to screw over a person I don't like, and I want them to know it was me."
It's implied in the leaked stuff that Jasper wants Malachite to be together as well, because she thinks she can bully Lapis into line and then crush the Crystal Gems. Malachite exists for no other purpose than revenge.
>>80901229
I'd say Garnet's role right now is the leader. Is that what you mean
>>80898195
>>80901257
I'm not rewording it right. But the whole love birds who fuse to fight is already covered by Garnet. I'd prefer they stay unfused when fighting.
>>80901324
I see what you mean. However, it's not safe for Connie not to be fused in a conflict. Remember that vision Pearl hologram'd in Sworn to The Sword to show that she repeatedly got poofed to protect Rose?
Connie wouldn't poof.
>>80896417
One part of me just wants /sug/ to come back so we can stop having 3+ threads per day dedicated to Steven Universe. Specially one's that are fucking sad bait.
>>80901402
Shut up man, this one actually turned into a decent discussion. Don't ruin it.
>>80901402
What is truly needed is a /cog/ board for unrestricted generals.
>>80901394
True. But it's just more reason for Steven to practice his defense.
>>80896904
Irony
>>80901053
That's so cool. I bet Amethyst is like that too, just smaller
>>80901459
>he implies this was a good thread
just kill yourself, my man.
>>80901682
I see a good number of quality posts. But the ones like yours are just nonconductive shit
>>80897393
>Christian doctrine
>faps to homosexuals
>thinks everyone is gay
That's like saying you know a Muslim that eats pork and doesn't think praying to Allah is that important.
>>80901786
as i said, kill yourself my man.
>>80901678
Amethyst seems to be a fair bit chunkier than either - unlike Rose or Jasper, she has a clearly defined gut and her shoulders don't seem quite as square. It's probably more to show that Amethyst isn't quite as experienced or powerful as the others. But she still seems to be hiding some muscles under that fat.
The big way to tell if someone is fat and strong or just fat is if the fat is a layer, or if it actually hangs off them. Amethyst's pudge stays pretty close to her body, while Steven in early episodes was pretty clearly all gut (he has been working it off, though).
>>80901922
>while Steven in early episodes was pretty clearly all gut (he has been working it off, though).
No he hasn't.
>>80902014
Check him out in Barn Mates.
>>80902047
...VS any pretty much any earlier episode
>>80902047
>>80902094
That's because the storyboarder artist draws him skinny. He's actually quite fat.
>>80902094
>>80902047
Ayup. Not to mention, he's been living a much more active life and he doesn't seem to be eating as badly. We even see him exercising with Garnet in one episode, and reading a book about fitness in another.
>>80902268
1. He still eats very badly. Like Mexican lifestyle badly.
2. He was just doing that to bug her.
3. Steven doesn't have a very active lifestyle.
4. Steven doesn't read. I mean just look at him.
>>80902327
He runs or walks around for the majority of every episode
>>80902327
>He still eats very badly
The closest thing to genuinely bad food he's eaten in Season 2 was a bagel sandwich with egg and cream cheese. Aside from that, it's either been fairly standard (jam and biscuits, cheese pizza, bacon and eggs), or for a special occasion (birthday cake). It's not exactly healthy living, but he doesn't live off ice cream.
>He was just doing that to bug her.
Nah, it's pretty clear she was doing it for him.
>Steven doesn't have a very active lifestyle.
I can't think of an episode where he doesn't wind up doing some heavy physical activity, bar maybe Chille Tid or the flashback episodes.
>Steven doesn't read. I mean just look at him.
The show's pretty clear that he's an active reader. He went through the Spirit Morph Saga in a matter of days, borrowed books from his dad when his TV privileges were lost, and owns at least one (dubious) self-help book. Not to mention we see the book in his house onscreen and on the table.
>>80902434
Only because he can't afford a Rascal.
>>80902233
Both of these episodes were storyboarded by the same people. Raven Molisee and
Paul Villeco
>>80902954
1. That's still not healthy. He should eat salads and shit.
2. Not really.
3. He's pretty lazy.
4. Reading a couple of books because he had no TV doesn't count; we can't even be sure he actually read them. And I thought his dad has books.
>>80903030
He's literally still fat.
>>80896417
>degenerates
>>>/pol/
Stop implying this show has lesbian subtexts, it's ridiculous
>>80901402
It's not as bad as neutered /sug/, but it's still better than /sug/ was in its prime, mainly because we'd get /sug/ AND 4+ threads a day.
>>80903288
Would this count as a threesome?
>>80900869
>Probably created by a organic species who got destroyed by their own creations terminator style.
If Ronaldo's ramblings about Sneople are any indication, I've had a theory that it was some reptilian race that originally inhabited Homeworld.
>>80903319
I don't see anything remotely sexual going on here and neither do you
>>80903288
>>80903358
>>80903395
>>80903411
>>80903433
>>80903346
Reminder Amethyst is worst gem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ9maZ3lX9o
>>80903577
But Pearl and Amethyst are the best because they're fucked up people.
>>80901824
What religion were you brought up with?
>>80896417
Remember that time OP's thumbnail looked like paizuri with huge tits?
>>80903665
Amethyst is just...meaner than Pearl
>>80901824
Not all religious people are zealots. Sometimes it's just a matter of wanting to think there's something big out there that cares for them
only thing of worth from this show are garnet's massive fucking hips, though i will be welcome to being persuaded otherwise
>>80905679
Opal's massive hips.
>>80905809
proportionally, those don't really have the same ration as garnet's
try again
>>80905679
Peri-butt.
>>80897107
That's what sex is.
>>80903459
>>80906192
While your naive outlook on sex is refreshing, it is objectively wrong.
>>80905847
Sardonyx's massive hips.
>>80903577
Armchair -is- purple...
