What is the best webcomic in internet right now, and why is it "It hurts"?
>>78457821
That's not how you spell Unsounded.
>>78457821
Unsounded. Stand Still, Stay Silent is also a wonderful read.And I enjoy Alfie for more than just the very well drawn porn.
>>78457821
I just bought one if the books with a sketch included. It was a little pricey, but you know what it was worth it
Hey that panel is a lotta tell, no show. Thanks, webcomics! You're quality!
>>78462287
>Stand Still, Stay Silent
Couldn't stomach the nordic circlejerk, I hate those miserable snow people IRL and in comics
>>78457821
the thing about this is that to be or not to be is not even a hard choice
you will eventually die, so why not put it off ALAP? plus we don't even know what happens, but it's probably nothing at all, so even the worst torture is preferable to nothing. because you can't even enjoy nothing
I've really been digging erfworld, but fuck those text pages are the worst. The story is literally being updated too fast to draw and it is awful
>>78462399
Anon, look at this. This panel is ~25-33% words, the rest is a face. This panel is fucking gold. OP's image is gold. Lots of words on a page doesn't mean he's violating show don't tell, it means he's being funny. Show don't tell would be if he consistently had people talking about doing shit instead of doing shit.
ps ur faget
I've had numerous people try to push It Hurts on me and every time I look at the most recent update, it's the most god-awful, obnoxious shit. I don't care how "ironically self-aware" it is, it's just shit.
Just look at OP's image? It's as if someone stupid tried to write Achewood and then someone untalented tried to draw a Boxer Hockey face.
![7e69238c3d38a5534423480486bf3d35[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iXYRfrN.png "7e69238c3d38a5534423480486bf3d35[1].png")
>>78462953
I forgot to attach the image. I was the faget all along.
>>78463165
it's not ironically self aware, it's whole hearted and earnest in a way very few fiction is.
>>78463165
What numerous people? I only ever hear about It Hurts on 4chan and either Facepunch or SA, one of those two.
Comic has a story that works best if you go in blind from the beginning. It looks like you're not going in blind or just don't like the goofy humor, in which case it's just not your thing. Shit's pretty excellent if your ass isn't tight enough to suspend a bowling ball using a bendy straw as a string.
It hurts sucks and the humor got played out within 20 strips.
>>78463850
>>78463165
i hated it hurts! for months when i hadn't read it and would just see the most recent, out of context page. it just looked like something an obnoxious teenage boy would make.... then i decided to sit down one night and read the whole thing to see if my hatred was warranted and it totally wasn't.
it really is more earnest than ironic - the dialogue is hilarious because these characters are all about 14 years old, and they talk just like a real middle schooler would. it's like sitting at lunch in 7th grade and drawing a comic of all the ridiculous stuff your friends are asking you to draw on the fly. it's violent, vulgar, and stupid, but so pure and fun. gob (the writer) is one of my biggest inspirations re: funny writing.
tl;dr: i hated it hurts! but then i read it and saw the error of my ways
>>78463850
K
>>78462953
GRRR YOU SHOW'D ME.
I'm not actually mad, just fuckin' around. You have a pretty good point, one I should have recognized. I'm just tired and grumpy.
>>78464048
This is also single handedly the most reasonable thing i've ever seen someone post on /co/, let alone all of 4chan.
Good work, anon, there needs to be more people like you.
>>78458251
I stopped reading that because the girl was too annoying. Does she die?
>>78463165
tbqh senpai the out of context panels are only funny with the rest of the comic, otherwise they just seem tryhardy
like
>>78464001
says, it's funny because it's exactly what'd you'd expect out of the age group of the characters. Remember all that cringy shit you did in middle school? This is that, the comic, and the occasional punchline is a realization of all that cringey shit, with a touch of apocalypse thrown in. It works pretty well.
>>78464370
Came to say this.
Just a reminder, this Webcomic has made 5.2k this month.
Literally $1.3k a Page, last month he made well over 10k. And that's not counting the money he gets monthly to work on the Card Game - an additional $4k, because all of the money from the Kickstarter was "stolen" but people apparently still want the card game to happen.
Quality doesn't matter, the only good webcomics are webcomics that make the owner enough money for their entire family to live off of without having to do another job on top of the webcomic.
>>78464403
No, but she gets a lot less annoying over time. How far did you read?
>>78465337
>Literally $1.3k a Page
You act like that's a lot. That's pretty much what professional illustrators make.
Atomic Robo
>>78465428
It's a lot for what the quality of the given product is.
Also, Professional Illustrators usually only get around 1k for their final illustrations at best. Artists such as Audrey Benjamenson in Spectrum mentioned that she usually gets 500~1k per piece despite being the premiere in the latest issue of the magazine. Nicolas Delort only gets $30k a year and Andrew Theophilopoulos, a big name in Society of Illustrators, survived only through getting ~5k from winning illustration contests and by teaching workshops, as commissions for him were generally around $1k for an oil painting.
Hell, George Pratt of DC Comics gets $500 a page and has to survive off teaching at 3 different schools.
>>78465631
>$30k a year for actual fine art master illustrators
How in the hell do funny book comic artists manage to live then? Do they all literally make burger flipper money? Christ, I could rake leaves for a living and be better off.
>>78465428
he makes in one month my entire living expenses for a year
>>78465718
How's life on the African plains?
Yeah It Hurts is funny af
I read through it recently and by the BORN TO SUCK DICK joke I knew that this comic was going to be special
>>78465743
thrifty
What did most people think of Crossed: Wish you were here ? I loved it, I didn't care much for Crossed because most of what I read seemed to aim for shock value but WYWH really stood out as a Crossed series but was also a good comics on its own.
>>78457821
Judging from that single panel, this is pseudo-intellectual as fuck, isn't it?
>>78466491
not even remotely.
>>78462399
>Having any kind of monologue or extended dialogue offends "show don't tell"
Don't parrot phrases you don't properly understand.
>>78466484
Because Spurrier is a great writer, my friend.
>>78465428
>You act like that's a lot. That's pretty much what professional illustrators make.
It's a lot, no professional illustrators or comic artists get paid that much per page for their gigs. And their works are actually high quality rather than vomit on the screen like the Goblin's art.
Even Questionable Content with its 10k a month i more deserving of its money than Goblins.
>>78465677
That's more than a teacher makes at their job, 30k a year is well enough for most people to live comfortably on. Unless you are an idiot who just had to buy that 500.000 Mc.mansion with a 4000 per month mortgage.
>>78466979
If you make less than 100k a year you've done something incredibly wrong with your life. And yes, choosing to work as a teacher counts as "something incredibly wrong with your life."
One punch man probably
>>78466491
No, that's the joke, the comic routinely features absurd bullshit like the character featured there in the OP who is an unexplained goblin that follows people around and offers them chicken. It's less played out than it sounds.
OP is pretty right, I can't stand pretentious shit like Unsounded
>>78467697
I like both Unsounded and It hurts!
Where is your God now??
>>78467697
>I can't stand pretentious shit like Unsounded
Just kill yourself, things aren't pretentious just because you can't understand them. And Unsounded has a lot of great humor too, there were even some flying boob ghosts in the previous chapter.
>>78467697
What about Unsounded is pretentious? Its been on my 'to read' list for a while but I keep putting it off because I don't really like how it looks.
>>78468963
>What about Unsounded is pretentious?
When a comic is brought up often, regardless of its merit, there's bound to be people who antagonize it. Heck even the Unsounded fandom is tame.
There is ONE guy here who seems to be very zealous, too zealous about it which makes everyone think he's trying to run some sort of smear campaign on the fandom.
>>78469010
>trying to run some sort of smear campaign on the fandom.
It was one post.
What the fuck is Unsounded and why did I never hear about it?
>>78469059
Wait I meant /co/ with here, not this thread. I'm awfully tired. The guy I'm referring to made a few suspicious threads a while ago.
Also yeah if you mention that you don't like Unsounded for whatever reason, you get the occasional post like >>78468843 telling you that you must be some sort of troglodyte for not liking such a marvel of literature.
>>78467697
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>>78469122
>you get the occasional post like >>78468843 telling you that you must be some sort of troglodyte for not liking such a marvel of literature.
This is another reason I'm kind of weary of reading it. Its stupid though, I should really give it a shot.
>>78468963
>What about Unsounded is pretentious? Its been on my 'to read' list for a while but I keep putting it off because I don't really like how it looks.
Not to be one of those guys so I apologize for asking, but care to elaborate on that? Because I can kind of understand people who say the story is too much for them, but on the art side there really isn't much room for improvement. It's the creme of the crop as far as webcomic art goes, and even blows the look of most professionally published print comics out of the water. So I'm very curious to hear your reasoning.
>>78469240
It just doesn't grab me I guess?
I don't necessarily think theres anything wrong with it, I just don't think theres anything thats really visually appealing about it or stands out. It just looks like bland, western anime art to me.
>>78469220
I for one am one of those people who tried reading it after a couple of anon's praised it as the marvel of literature and eventually quit after being immensely disappointed. Too high expectations I suppose, if I had tried reading it thinking it's just some lousy webcomic I might have like it okay.
It's definitely not a comic that lives up to the hype some fans on /co like to spread. It is a decently made comic but it's not exactly miles ahead the many other decently made webcomics out there.
No Gunnerkrigg Court love?
>>78469220
>This is another reason I'm kind of weary of reading it. Its stupid though, I should really give it a shot.
Yeah you really should. As a general rule you should never let the fandom influence your view of a piece of work, because y'know, the internet puts the vocal people in the spotlight and the vocal people are not the best.
It's a great comic and I think it's objectively the most well-crafted running webcomic right now, it genuinely made me care for the characters and their struggles and it's written incredibly well. Most people praise the art (which is great) but I think the writing is really where the comic shines. The worldbuilding is very extensive but there's no "infodumps", from the point of view of the narrative it's just so well done.
The only flaw I can find in it is that you can lose track of the larger scale of happenings in the world, there are countries at war and enmities based on religioun and history, but as I said it's well-inserted in the comic and it's simply a flaw of it being a webcomic that is published page-by-page over weeks.
>>78466491
Nope
>>78466996
>If you make less than 100k a year you've done something incredibly wrong with your life.
Is this really how much money the average American makes? Holy shit.
20k $ in my country is fucking great.
>>78469956
hahahahahahahahaha no.
That's how much some Americans think is normal because they picked job markets that are currently flourishing.
>>78469956
I'm sure everything is also 5 times cheaper.
>>78469956
No he is just blowing it out his ass.
100k a year is a bit over 8k a month, that is 2k a week, assuming at 40 hour work week that is 50$ an hour, assuming that is a salary, well I have friends in management that do not make 2k a week. So no that is by no means even most people making that much.
>>78469956
The Rich never actually think that they're rich. Psychological studies have shown that even the richest of the rich will almost always think of themselves as "middle class". It's a weird psychological quirk
For humorous wacky adventures that has a story, It Hurts!! is my go-to. I don't think I could chose an absolute favorite/best webcomic of mine.
>>78470249
>It's a weird psychological quirk
Well... basically it's greed.
>>78466996
I've never met anyone who makes that much money, anon. I doubt you do, as well.
>>78465631
>loss
>tfw Poppy is still on hiatus
>>78470879
Poppy is a shit comic and nowhere near the best of anything.
>>78470909
me too thanks
>>78465428
>$1300 per page
Goddamn even comic book superstars don't make that much. Upper end is like, $1000, and that's if you're super famous with a huge following.
Though it's probably unfair to use Patreon welfare to calculate page rates. He's not actually being paid that much per page, it's more like people are just supporting him to be nice, or for whatever reward system he has in place (if any).
>>78469956
>>78466996
Holy fucking shit such retardation.
According to current data only 5% of Americans make 100K or more. No it is not the average fucking salary in the US. Or fucking anywhere.
So by your logic, 95% of Americans have done something "INCREDIBLY wrong with their lives."
I know plenty of engineers from Ivy schools who don't make that and some that once did, but can't find a job that pays that any more. What the hell.
>>78469956
No he's full of shit, however it is harder in america. I make 20k a year and am horribly poor. i do live in nyc tho.
Allison is such a qt.
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>>78471067
>He didn't major in math
>100k starting
>>78466996
gr8 b8 m8
>>78457821
It's not great but its better than Cucktown
>>78471020
Erfworld also makes ~$1300 a page. The differences being that it isn't through patreon, it's through their own donation system (+$), it pays for the 3 people who work on the comic instead of just one guy (-$), and donators can directly use the money they've donated as credit to get books/etc. (-$). Also, erfworld is superior.
Quick question, though. Is it ok that this guy is charging by page instead of for a time period? My general understanding of patreon was that most of the works that take donations per page were ones with production costs, and that doing it for something like a webcomic was at the very least considered scummy. Also, I'm pretty sure when the patreon is set up on an update basis that donators are prompted for a monthly cap, so I strongly doubt Thunt is getting the full 1.3k per update, especially in busier months.
>>78458251
I gave Unsounded a shot recently, and found it very boring.
The Girl and Zombie guy were enjoyable, and had good interactions. But nearly every other character was dull as dirt boring.
I was stuck wondering what the plot was, even five chapters in. Are these guys trying to smuggle something inside these people? If so, what? Why exactly does this white haired father and son work with these lowly gangster guys if they hate them so much? It certainly didn't help that I cared absolutely nothing for the characters within this particular part of the plot.
Are there multiple countries that Zombie guy and girl are going to, or are they just different cities or provinces? Why are they on this adventure in the first place? Something to do with the tail girl's father being a gang boss or something?
>tl:dr - I didn't like the supporting cast, and I couldn't comprehend what was happening because of how boring it was.
I dropped it at chapter five btw. If it picks up, or the plot actually begins to occur, please tell me. I wanted to enjoy it because I liked the art quite a bit, but I just can't take these dull ass characters and plot.
>>78471884
All of these questions have been explained by now. Also one quick read through often times isn't enough to take in everything that's going on in this comic.
The wiki helps as well.
If you want everything explained right away with no suspense or mystery, then this comic may not be for you.
Those of us who read it enjoy the big build ups and trying to figure out what's going on or going to happen before it's officially revealed.
>>78472098
>Also one quick read through often times isn't enough to take in everything that's going on in this comic.
>The wiki helps as well.
You're not making the writing of this comic sound very appealing there. When a story is supposedly well written I expect not to have to read a wiki to "get" it.
And please:
>If you want everything explained right away with no suspense or mystery, then this comic may not be for you
stop trying to insist that anyone who doesn't enjoy Unsounded doesn't because it's "2deep 4u".
>>78472748
>When a story is supposedly well written I expect not to have to read a wiki to "get" it.
I'm just saying while there is a lot of information given at a time, it may not be pertinent at the time. For example, there were some names dropped in the first chapter, but the characters don't appear or become relevant until 6 or more chapters in.
This is one of my favorite comics, but even I may need to go back to re-read something because I didn't pick it up the first time. Often times this is because something that was said didn't seem that important at the time. I will even admit this comic is best read entire chapters at a time instead of a couple pages a week. Many readers find it easier top take in information that way.
>stop trying to insist that anyone who doesn't enjoy Unsounded doesn't because it's "2deep 4u"
I'm not suggesting this at all. The story builds slowly and there is a lot of suspense. Slow, suspenseful stories aren't for everyone and that's okay. To each their own.
>>78457821
Please.
If that's good to you, then that west tree academy of heroes is the second best
>>78472748
>stop trying to insist that anyone who doesn't enjoy Unsounded doesn't because it's "2deep 4u".
As an Unsounded fan, I think it's perfectly OK not to like it. I think it's fantastic but it's not flawless. When people start insisting on why you shouldn't dislike the comic it's good practice to ignore them.
What do you guys think about Kill Six Billion Demons?
>>78471884
>Are these guys trying to smuggle something inside these people? If so, what?
Yes, magic silver material. Their motives for doing this are unknown at this point.
>Why exactly does this white haired father and son work with these lowly gangster guys if they hate them so much?
He needs money.
>Are there multiple countries that Zombie guy and girl are going to, or are they just different cities or provinces?
They're traveling through different provinces on their way to their ultimate destination, the country of Cresce.
>Why are they on this adventure in the first place? Something to do with the tail girl's father being a gang boss or something?
Yes, the girl's cousin owes her father money and hasn't paid it yet, and he sent her over to find him and (forcefully) collect it from him. Her dad also blackmailed the zombie guy into going with her.
>If it picks up, or the plot actually begins to occur, please tell me.
Holy shit, yes. I'll admit that the beginning is kinda boring, but it starts to pick up A LOT right about where you dropped it, in fact. Give it another try dude, I promise you won't regret it.
>>78474137
It's generally loved by /co/
Started reading Unsounded and loving it so far. Some good shit in this thread. It Hurts, Gunnerkrigg Court, Unsounded, Kill Six Billion Demons, Stand Still, Stay Silent. All good shit.
also quit complaining about people recommending comics in a comic recommendation thread you turbofags, leave the fucking thread if you can't handle people suggesting things you don't like
>>78474494
Oh please, every thread on /co that's about recommending comics becomes half comic appreciation and the other half autists being mad that others enjoy something they don't and offended that not everyone worships their fav comic. Learn to enjoy the butthurt.
Steph/Pasq OTP 4 life m9
>>78469611
Too much awful fetish porn.
>>78475882
I genuinely had no idea there was even porn of it. Thanks for helping me die a little inside.
>>78475941
Don't go looking for it and don't go in the threads on /co/.
>>78469956
20k in America is dirt poverty. But yeah, 100k is a lot of money. I know a lot of people who make that but still live from paycheck to paycheck because they're fucking idiots who don't realize that if you blow 60k on some faggy car you have less money for food and your kids.
Bad Adjectives is pretty "It Hurt's-y"
>>78476645
You know, the art in this comic is pretty bad, but it really does have some of the funniest quotes I've read in a webcomic
"I have dreams too! my name, in lights, on the side of a robotic T-rex rapping it's way down the vegas strip, is that so much to ask?"
There are some other good ones too
>>78465337
Wow, what the fuck. I like Goblins but Thunt's art is shit and he is a gigantic faggot that is crying about something all the time and never delivers his shit because of drama.
Why is this cunt even sad, I'm depressive and I barely have money to eat.
Fucking americans.
>>78471884
You are dumb or have adhd attention spans, which shakes out to the same thing really. Stick to spoonfed easy to follow stuff, you will be happier and your little noggin won't hurt you.
>>78477190
It's a generic magic/fantasy setting.
It's pretty much guaranteed to be boring unless there's some sort of interesting twist or gimmick that sets it apart from the rest. Or at the very least some interesting characters, settings, or concepts.
Unsounded is pretty lacking in all of those departments.
If you enjoy Unsounded, that's fine and dandy, but don't get peeved when someone is bored by it.
>>78471884
Gonna be honest, dude, your reasons for disliking the comic seem kinda... silly?
>I was stuck wondering what the plot was, even five chapters in. Are these guys trying to smuggle something inside these people?
Yeah, it's implied pretty strongly. And knowing immediately what they're smuggling and why would run counter to the whole buildup. An element of mystery is necessary before a reveal.
>Why exactly does this white haired father and son work with these lowly gangster guys if they hate them so much?
It comes across pretty strongly in his character that he needs money and is willing to get his hands dirty to get it. Later you understand why he needs it so bad.
>Are there multiple countries that Zombie guy and girl are going to, or are they just different cities or provinces?
Nations, this is actually spelled out pretty early.
>Why are they on this adventure in the first place?
Also stated very, very early. There's more it than it seems, but the official reason they're traveling is laid out by chapter 2.
Characters are subjective, of course, but I personally have found them to be plenty nuanced. Some are more likable and interesting than others, but they're all very well fleshed out.
>>78474137
I like the art but still haven't read it.
>>78478782
It's pretty nuts. The art is absolutely orgasmic if you love creative character designs.
>>78457821
If It Hurts had better art it would be 10/10
>>78483073
Iunno, the crude style evokes that Newgrounds-y vibe and fits the humor. He's capable of drawing better and has in several strips, nothing oustanding but it's certainly more servicable than what you'd get out of something like QC.
His wife's good, though. She does some of the later costume designs and ocassionally draws "fanart" of the characters (does it count as fanart if your wife is drawing it?).
a new comic just dropped.
Ally's new look continues to be the hotness.
>>78475971
they've cleaned up a lot since /aco/ has attracted all the western fetishfags
>>78483591
>Allison not turning that corpse into a zombie bro
Missed opportunity.
>>78484141
If he's already dead I don't think it works. Ally tried biting her dead sister and she just stayed dead.
Please don't make threads like this OP, be it a false flag or genuinely circlejerky.
I don't want It Hurts to be an even bigger target for shit posting than it is currently. If you legitimately want to just talk about it, keep it in the MWF update threads.
>>78484635
you mean like the one I just made because apparently Hiro removed the redundant image check?
>>78483591
Are the time skip women just being dolled out one by one to taunt the fans?
>>78484141
>>78484541
>>78484635
>>78485098
the other thread, just in case you havent seen it:
>>78483550
>>78483591
Is it me, or has the art gotten better?
