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>>78280380
I'm surprised they didn't kill him off in TCW for shits n giggles.
>>78280380
>Invasion edition
Fuck that, Rey edition.
I've never been more conflicted on a movie.I was so happy when I found out that Coruscant still exists.
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>>78280436
I wanna tickle Rey until she pisses her pants
>>78280380
Why didn't you use the new, shortened OP?
http://pastebin.com/Pp5QHHfX
>>78280380
A COMMUNICATION DISRUPTION CAN ONLY M
>>78280380
Clearly, Adviser Bubble was the real villain the entire time. He's got a goatee after all and Advisers are always evil.
>>78280442
>Including The Force Unleashed
>>78280409
Off being the key to some other story
>>78280487
>>78280494
Next thread then, and if the First Order mod deletes this, then I hope you fucks better be quick about it, before the mod puts up a giantess/feet edition OP.
>>78280436
Fuck off, shill. Your movie is shit. Accept it.
>>78280380
I can't see this face and not laugh
It's equal to CIA's face for me
>>78280550
OT Manchildren literally cannot fathom a film being worse than the prequels. So they'll pretend forever that TFA was good, based upon that milestone alone.
>>78280601
it's possible for both to be bad prequel goober
>>78280550
>>78280601
>people like it, so it must be bad!
>I can't think of any negatives about the movie! It's still bad!
>I won't even watch it!
>>78280651
Don't take their weak bait man. Show some dignity.
>>78280651
I watched it and have negatives to say about it.
Are you actually interested in a discussion or do you just want to green text your way out of this?
>>78280666
no satan.
>>78280409
Too much of a key. Was OP and needed to be cut.
>>78280380
Is this stuff canon?
>get the urge to rewatch Phantom Menace, thinking it might be good if I give it another chance
>watch it again
>it's complete garbage
>time passes
>get the urge to rewatch Phantom Menace, thinking it might be good if I give it another chance
>watch it again
>it's complete garbage
>time passes
>etc. etc.
Why do I always fall for it?
>>78280720
watch the Hal 9000 edits
>>78280720
watch a fanedit then you can break out of the cycle.
>>78280720
Cognitive dissonance
>>78280732
Did the Topher Grace re cut ever get leaked online?
>>78280732
How do they compare to the Anti-Cheese edits? I'm marathoning tomorrow so I wanna get everything ready tonight
>>78280783
No but this guy did his best to recreate it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9LEhOZZbuk
>>78280649}
>Snoke isn't lame because you don't have enough information to make that call
Wrong. Snoke is lame and has no presence or authority BECAUSE he has nothing pertaining to him. The Emperor was a representation of the Empire we've been fighting for three movies. Snoke was just some guy who came out of nowhere and is now the DARKNESS.
>saying we know Kylo Ren's entire backstory is dead wrong.
you seriously think i meant that the problem was that now we know kylo ren's backstory already
instead of the story as presented being insufficient to lend proper weight to his actions in the flick itself
that is in fact why i said we missed an entire movie
>>78280651
For the record, I'm not calling everyone a manchild. That's just a fact. There's been 15 years of critical analysis and anti-hype over the prequels because some OTfags are just that ass ravaged. TFA will get theirs.
>ending felt nothing like a Star Wars ending
That was a major problem with it for me
What was the point of rehashing everything else if you can't do a Star Wars ending?
>>78280601
Force Awakens is fine and far better than the prequels.
If I'm just a shill then you're just a contrarian and we're both worthless.
>>78280880
To make more money off of a big name franchise?
>>78280825
>How do they compare to the Anti-Cheese edits? I'm marathoning tomorrow so I wanna get everything ready tonight
they're much more professional than the anti-cheese edits and the cuts are more extensive
a little more difficult to get your hands on, though
try fanedit.info
>>78280880
It felt like the 2nd Hobbit ending.
>>78280720
That's how I felt about episode 2!
>>78280880
What should a Star Wars ending feel like?
>>78280912
Hmmm, might give em a shot then. Just need to figure out how to actually download it
>>78280947
Bunch of dudes standing around on a vista.
>>78280880
>What was the point of rehashing everything
Money dear boy, and the fact that Hollywood has no creative backbone anymore and relies on nostalgia to get the big bucks. And China.
>>78280853
>he thinks it takes critical analysis to realize the PTs are bad
You have to not be paying attention if you think those movies were ever good. even as a kid I disliked those movies hard and didn't like star wars for the longest time because of it.
I had to be coaxed into watching the OT.
>>78280949
you can find torrents for episode II and III on fanedit.info, though i've had difficulty finding episode I again.
>Star Wars: 4/4 stars
>The Empire Strikes Back: 4/4 stars
>Return of the Jedi: 4/4 stars
>The Phantom Menace: 3.5/4 stars
>Attack of the Clones: 2/4 stars
>Revenge of the Sith: 3.5/4 stars
What would Ebert have thought of The Force Awakens?
>>78280985
Based on that 4/4
>>78280959
Sounds a bit like The Big Lebowski
>>78280964
>I had to be coaxed into watching the OT.
So you're just a follower that has to be led like a sheep to water because you're too scared to do something yourself, ok.
>>78280985
Star Wars isn't art.
>>78280947
It has to a grand moment, like looking off at a galaxy in a med ship. or at a ceremony.
this one felt bland and awkward. and that panoramic view did not fit the normal cinematography at all.
>>78281003
Man where do you people come from
>>78280825
>No but this guy did his best to recreate it
I tried to watch a few minutes of it and even the final TPM fight still has the prequel problems. All the weird weightless CGI voids. When they move to a physical set it's a little better but the choreography for Maul's death is absurd.
Obi-Wan doing a flip over maul's head from below while Maul has him completely prone is ridiculous.
>>78280985
Derivative, but entertaining.
>>78280979
Seems like I is fine as long as you don't want 1080p
>>78280985
I don't understand why people thought so highly of his opinion on movies. Where did society go so wrong that people can get paid so much for telling strangers on the internet what to think?
>>78281024
>that panoramic view did not fit the normal cinematography at all.
It did feel a little intrusive, like they spent the money on the drone and wanted to put it in.
>>78281003
it's like you didn't even read.
>>78281044
Always thought the first guy was the same one who crashed into the Executor.
>>78281076
>Where did society go so wrong that people can get paid so much for telling strangers on the internet what to think?
Ebert was a tv personality who had a great combative report with his co-host Gene Siskel. He was mostly willing to play ball with "fun" movies like Star Wars.
>>78281076
When people decided they needed something to prove their opinions. Some people aren't ok with subjective discussions.
>>78281093
Oh I read it, he had to be coaxed into watching the OT because he had a bad time watching the prequels. I find that pathetic.
>>78281154
I forgot. Did he like 'Benji the Hunted' or 'Carnosaur'?
>>78281173
the irony here is pure. I want to keep you in this state forever in a bottle to enjoy.
>waaaaah its just anh rehash
>ahbloobloobloo the ending isn't like the other star wars movies!
I need a new place to talk about star wars
>>78281335
Try your pillow in your room?At least it won't troll or flame you.
>>78281335
Try reddit. A hugbox seems right up your alley.
>>78281399
I don't know anon I was almost destroyed at an atomic level by my pillow once.
>>78281154
>report
You mean rapport.
>>78281335
>waaaahhhh my hugbox isn't a safe space anymore stop triggering me waaahhhh
You're pathetic
>>78281435
This. I liked the movie but complaining about people who didn't like it is just as bad as the people who keep calling those who did like it shills
>tfw like all the movies
>tfw can never be accepted anywhere because there will always be one person who has to insist that I have shit taste for liking TFA or the Prequels
>>78280979
>>78281048
You know the password?
>>78280380
>communications are down
>this MUST be a sign of an invasion
Or, the wi-fi is fucked. Or maybe someone forgot to pay the damn phone bill.
>he's right though, the planet IS being invaded because the script say so
I hate Star Wars.
>>78281473
No, report. I want it typed double spaced, times new roman, and 3000 words by Tuesday. That should be easy, with a whole weekend ahead of you.
>>78280380
Someone wanna repost the Rey "nudes" from the show she did before?
>>78280928
Are you saying Rey is a dragon they completely failed to kill that ran off like a pussy?
>>78281335
>I need a new place to talk about star wars
Go to tumblr then, if you need a hugbox so badly. If you can't handle dissenting opinions on 4chan then you really need to leave and go somewhere so you can't be triggered.
>>78281555
Everyone either has shit tastes for liking/hating different things, or is a copycat for liking/hating the same shit as you. It doesn't matter in the end; they'll find a way to shit on everything.
Best thing to do is to take those trips and be proud about being above nitpicking simple movies.
>>78281602
just look in the old thread >>78274518
>>78281573
You do realize that in Star Wars, they're past the time where wifi just "goes down" or where there's a bill even existing for the HoloNet/them not paying
Communications being down like they were when they were previously functioning is a sign of outside tampering, since we know it can be jammed.
So, can we all agree that Kylo Ren is the best character in TFA and the best film villain since Darth Vader?
>>78281795
Woah bud, lets chill out there. Wait until the trilogy's done first.
I want one.
>>78281795
Well Rey is the best character, but Kylo Ren is actually a character I really enjoyed. I can see him doing an anti-Vader arc, where he starts conflicted and ends completely ruthlessly evil
>>78281795
Of course.
>>78281795
>best character
You misspelled Poe
>>78281846
>Rey is the best character
Hardly. Weakest character by far. Literally only tumblr would be so blinded by MUH FEMINISM to say this.
>>78281795
What's up with him? Why is he so mad all the time?Anakin was better
>>78281902
The Dark Side feeds off of emotions like anger. It also makes you act irrationally if you haven't been properly taught to control the dark side, like Sheev.
>>78281795
>Kylo Ren is the best character in TFA
That would be Finn, not Kylo. I'll wait to see Ren in the second movie before making judgments on his character. As of right now, he's just a whiney EdgeLord, and no he's no Vader, just an edgy kid.
>>78281846
Rey was practically not a character though.
Finn was best character.
Did anyone else feel like Adam Driver should have played Anakin? Because I sure did, he nailed the tone and feel of what George was clearly trying to do with Anakin and had so much more intensity than Hayden Christensen.
I feel like at least part of next film is going to be cutting between Luke training Rey and Snoke training Kylo.
>>78281942
Finn was just entertaining because he got the best quips, Rey was about as developed
>>78281985
Exactly
0 character development+quips+better actor>0 character development
>>78281970
The real question is will Rey and Kylo bang
>>78282031
>>78281970
I think that will be most of next film.
>>78282031
Hey, this ain't Alabama
>>78280720
I do this but opposite.
> like TM
> Everyone says it's the worst maybe it's been a whIle let's watch it again
> nope still like it
> etc
>>78281859
You mean that guy that was barely in it for more than 10 minutes?
>>78281687
Plus they were sort of expecting the Trade Federation to do something. If you're in a situation where a bunch of assholes bring their giant ships to blockade your planet and suddenly your communications are being jammed, you can't blame someone for thinking that things are about to escalate.
Plus it's not like everyone immediately agreed. Both Amidala and Panaka were going "nah, they're not that stupid, the senate would bitchslap them"
>>78281985
We got to see Finn go from nameless faceless Storm Trooper to making friends and getting revenge on the First Order. With Rey she was just perfect smart girl all the way through
>>78281968
Too ugly.
>>78281134
Nigga that was a girl
>>78282031
>they fall in love, it brings out the light side in him and the dark side in her
>they end up essentially switching sides and ends with them forced to kill each other
Sounds kind of cheesy or maybe too Shakespeare, but I think it would be interesting
>>78280985
A glib facsimile.
>>78280441
I'm still not sure if I liked it or not. It's very rare for me to feel this way about the movie.
I guess I liked parts of it, but by the end of the movie a part of me was going "wait, that's it?"
Outside of Rey's Theme, TFA's OST is pretty bland so far. Most of it is just generic actioney pieces.
This is tough for me TFA was a competently made film but leaves a bad taste because of how by the numbers in is to the point of just being a repackaged ANH.
Meanwhile the prequels tried to do so much and be completely creative and unique and stumbled along the way. But I still can't help but appreciate them for what they are.
It's like good corporate Hollywood movie vs. bad movie with complete creative freedom
>>78282059
But it is the Outer Rim, it's the Galactic South.
>>78282055
Maybe Poe will be the POV character for advancing the war plot
>>78280880
The awkward helicopter shot took me out of the moment.
>>78282150
March of the Resistance, Snoke, and Torn Apart are the best tracks in my opinion. Especially Torn Apart because it contains the closest thing to an Imperial March style theme for the main villain and really captures the emotion of the best scene in the film.
>>78280825
>No but this guy did his best to recreate it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9LEhOZZbuk
>took out all of TPM, even the semi-good scenes
>took out the whole Obi-Wan Kenobi: private eye investigator scenes in favor of the whole Anakin love story
well that was a waste of an hour
>>78282091
And did more in those ten minutes than just mindlessly slash everything in a temper tantrum.
>>78282152
At the end of the day, I'll usually go with the movie that at least tried, rather than the one that went By-the-numbers approach. I'm just worried Disney is going to go too far and Star Wars turns out like the Marvel Cinematic Universe is. I really don't want this franchise run into the ground by a bunch of Hollywood Execs.
>>78282150
Watching it again makes it a lot better, I didn't really like it at first, but after seeing it again I like the soundtrack better
>>78282152
I think JJ had to play it safe to get the general public back on board with Star Wars, and now that hes done that Rian Johnson will make a riskier, more superior film in episode 8hopefully
>>78282274
Did he? I feel like Han and Chewie were the only characters that actually did anything at all.
Maybe Finn too. Couldn't care less about whatever is going on with Rey.
>>78282152
The prequels and TFA seem to be polar opposites of each other.
The prequels give you a better story and more imaginative visuals, but the tradeoff is you get bad acting and awkward dialogue that does a disservice to the story.
Meanwhile TFA has great performances and dialogue and well-executed moments of humor, but the story is unoriginal and visually, almost everything is a retread.
I still can't believe three guys managed to take down Starkiller Base.
>>78282261
All Prequel fan edits are a waste IMO. I've seen all of the popular ones and even a few others, but none of them work because the editors don't understand how films work. They just want to cut out what they feel is bad.
>>78282330
I can't believe Captain Phasma's asshole took a wookiee dick.
Anyone else kinda bothered that TFA had literally zero world building? Was my favorite parts of all six movies and clone wars. That you felt like the galaxy was this living breathing thing.
TFA had such a breakneck pace and didn't tell you ANYTHING about anything that it made the movie feel small.
The way they blew up a whole solar system and even the good guys didn't react and were quipping right after made it worse. Like nothing is important except the Resistance and the First Order.
>>78282330
I can't believe they keep building giant planetoids related to suns and killing.
You think they'd get the message by now.
>>78281942
>>78281894
I agree that she wasn't the best written character, but I feel like a lot of that was left to explore in the future. I just felt that she had the best performance out of the newcomers, followed really closely by Oscar Isaac and Boyega
>>78282279
That's kinda where I'm at. Like the prequels are cheesey B movie Sci fi flicks that expanded Star Wars lore and I love them for it.
>>78282298
Well, he was the one that flew into the thing... ...Then again, you could be onto something.
>>78282330
In comparison to the four that took down the Death Star?
>>78282279
The Force Awakens is a really funny movie, but I really don't want them to double down on the comedy stuff just because it worked here. Star Wars has always had humor, but it needs to be serious and I'd hate to see them yet to turn it into a quipfest like Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy. If worked for those films and the tone of the comic source material, but shit like Star-Lord's "dance off" would be horrendously out of place in Star Wars. That said, The Force Awakens is multiple orders of magnitude better than the prequels, it's not even a contest. Abrams did right by Star Wars. I'm curious to know what Lucas had wanted to do instead, but I'm skeptical that it would be as good as what we got.
>>78282330
Starkiller Base felt like such an afterthought
>blows up an entire system at once
>"wow that sucks guess we should stop it"
>meet to discuss how to deal with it
>"okay let's trust this guy's word and base our entire attack on it, we good? okay get to your ships"
>Chewie lights the place up
>"shield's down, okay, let's hit it and go home"
>place starts falling apart
>"SNOKE THE BASE IS BLOWING UP AND I'M STILL ON IT WHAT SHOULD I DO"
>"get off it you moron, bring Kylo too"
What if this is all a set up for Rey to go dark side
>already skilled in the force with no prior training
>could snap at the reason why she was left on Jakku or if Luke refuses to train her
>only villains have accents in Star Wars
What if this is just Snoke's plan to get his true protege
>>78282413
They didn't even explain what the Hosnian system was
A map of the galaxy from the Visual Dictionary.
>>78282233
Agreed. My favorite tracks so far(after listening a few more times since yesterday)
Rey's Theme
The Falcon
Maz's Counsel
The Starkiller
Han and Leia
March of the Resistance
Snoke
Torn Apart
The Ways of the Force
The Jedi Steps and Finale
>>78282365
I was a little annoyed, yeah. They needed to establish Snoke and the New Republic better. Just offing the New Republic like that was fucking retarded. One of my few complaints about the film.
>>78282408
See but J.J. did right by Star Wars by doing Star Wars safely. If I wrote down the plot skeleton of ANH it would match up almost exactly to TFA. J.J. was dealing with an audience that worships the OT and considers the PT the worst movies ever made. And so he just remade one of the OT movies.
It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that everyone is like J J DID IT HE SAVED STAR WARS. When all he did was remake ANH and throw tons of references to the OT every couple minutes. It wasn't BAD but it didn't do anything new or exciting either.
>>78282413
>>"SNOKE THE BASE IS BLOWING UP AND I'M STILL ON IT WHAT SHOULD I DO"
>>"get off it you moron, bring Kylo too"
Also, I hated Hux. He just seemed like such a geek. Kylo too. Phasma literally went into the trash. And what was the point of the assholes who showed up on Han's ship?
The antagonists were pathetic.
>>78282413
Yeah, the movie puts a huge emphasis on the quest for finding Luke, then kind of takes a detour to deal with Death Star 3, and by the time that's they finally find look WHOOPS TIME'S UP ROLL CREDITS
>>78282463
did you take this? can you dump some pages?
>>78282385
I disagree, I thought Adam Driver had the best performance by far. He has really strong presence and was able to emote a lot by doing very little so it was subtle. He really conveyed a deeply broken and conflicted person in a way that I feel like was both incredibly effective and also perhaps completely missable by some not paying close enough attention.
>>78282452
It didn't matter. Seemed like nothing really mattered.
No one really reacted to anything in any sort of meaningful way. Everything was moving too fast for any one scene to matter more than others. Shit tier pacing, JJ.
>>78282452
Hell, they did a poor job of explaining anything about the Republic and the First Order.
>>78282463
>Rakata Prime is canon according to this
does this mean KotOR is canon too?
>>78282463
>New Republic is slow, inept, and unaware of the threat of the First Order
Bravo Mothma
>>78282521
This was my biggest complaint. It feels like we missed a whole movie between VI and VII. Like go between III and IV and despite a huge time leap everything makes sense. There are no lingering questions or confusion at the end of the movie.
>>78282556
No.
>>78282556
The canonfags are about to jump down your throat, bro.
Think I'm gonna shut off my brain and just enjoy TFA for what it was. I love the prequels so there's no reason I can't love TFA. I just gotta stop dissecting it.
>>78282507
honestly, one of the best parts about the film is that there was no performance that you could point out and say "wow they really weren't good in this role". Today, I think Ridley was the best, but I can't come up with anything to say why Driver wasn't any better because he was spectacular as well
>>78282499
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/3x9857/just_bought_the_visual_dictionary_and_incredible/
Here's more. Very interesting stuff. Most of the politics and worldbuilding was cut off from the movie, a bad move in my opinion.
>>78282485
>hating Hux after that fucking A+ speech prior to the firing of Starkiller Base
>>78282365
Loredumping cancer. Leave the world to be told in visuals.
>>78282309
This is the description I've been looking for. Thanks anon.
>>78282559
That's politics for ya.
>>78282601
That's what I ended up doing. Your nerves will thank you.
>>78282617
There were no visuals
>>78282617
But nothing was told is the problem.
>>78281795
Honestly no, there's been far more interesting and developed villains. Like Maul and Ventress in TCW.
And Sheev is just fun.
THAT BEING SAID, I'm glad we have Kylo, he's batshit insane and I kinda' like that. Nice change of pace.
>>78282606
I was just about to say, I really wish they explained more about the difference between the Resistance and the New Republic. That one page you posted was really interesting. I hope they explain more in the films rather than relying on other canon books
although I guess normies dont care about the world building which is why they didnt explain shit in TFA
>>78282152
I feel the exact same way, and im choosing to like both TFA and the prequels for what they are and what they did right.
Life is too short to be angry and upset at my own favorite franchise.
>>78282330
>making something that contains a fucking star, redirects the energy into several blasts, all shot through sub-Hyperspace and precisely aimed at targets lightyears away
>it being relatively easy to destabilize is surprising.
The power of a modern super-laser on earth can vaporize hardened steel, but whack it with a hammer in the right spot and it'll break. Do it well enough it might mid-direct the laser and hit its own internal components, and therefore explode when you try to fire it.
Nothing out of place there, that shit's delicate, and precise.
Only thing i dind't understand about the Star Killer is how the hell was it that no one except for the bad guys knew about about it, everyone was surprised to know they have created a planet destroyer twice bigger than the last one.
>>78282441
>Only Villains have accents in Star Wars.
Explain this motherfucker.
>>78280964
>he thinks it takes critical analysis to realize the PTs are bad
Nothing to do with "thinking". It's an observable fact. The first reviews of TPM played the exact same tune now played for TFA.
Then butthurt fanboys started bitching so loudly all over Internet that reviewers were forced to play to the tune.
>>78282652
Maul and Ventress in TCW are some of my favorite characters but it's kinda unfair they had an entire series. Kylo had one movie and the performance that was put on easily stole the show for me and made him one of my favorite villains.
With TCW saving Dooku and Maul's character we really don't have a bad villain in the series though.
>>78282485
Hux was pretty bland. He felt like a Tarkin stand-in, but didn't have any moments where he demonstrated his authority, or where he demonstrated cruelty the way Tarkin did. Yes, he blow up a system, but what made Tarkin's act of mass destruction memorable was the way he dangled it in front of Leia, only to laugh in her face and tell her destroying Alderaan suited his goals so he was going to do it anyway.
Hux bitches at Kylo a few times, makes a big speech about how the Republic sucks (and the audience isn't given much context for what their beef is beyond "First Order Bad, Republic Good" which basically drains his speech of any real weight) and that's it. He's such a forgettable character.
>>78282652
I laugh when the stormtroppers didn't go to him and simply and casually go away from fear of getting killed
>>78282696
I agree, its too early to judge Kylo, but as it stands, he is a fantastic character and brilliantly acted, but simply not as interesting or developed as some of the other villains YET.
He has time to grow.
So is the NR actually dead forever or did they just have their Washington hit by a nuke nobody expected Space Nazis to have?
Because the latter is how I read it (coupled with their demilitarization) but everyone in here keeps ragging on it being dead dead.
>>78282679
If three guys manage to take down your entire shield system by ambushing ONE SUBSTATION, you have problems.
>>78282680
Same reason no one knew about the Death Star: they didn't fucking advertise it.
And look where it is on the map >>78282463
No one would've ever known it was there.
>>78282680
It was out in uncharted territory, so it's not like ships regularly went past it to get a view of it. They had to send Wexley over just to confirm that it was even there before launching the attack.
>>78282686
He helped create Vader, he was he true villain of the prequels
>>78282686
I stand by what I said.
>>78282606
Yeah, I can sort of see why they would because they know that politics in Star Wars has gotten a bad reputation, but ANH- the movie that TFA is most trying to emulate- was able to do it without breaking the flow of the story. It gave enough exposition for you to understand why things are happening and then moved on. TFA is apparently so afraid to get into politics it completely forgets to give the audience any context, so it's just good guys and bad guys fighting for reasons that aren't explained.
>>78282712
Yeah me and my cousin cracked up at that.
We also laughed when Kylo is shattering the computer and the Imperial Officer is pissing his pants.
And Kylo asks "anything else" and before the Officer can finish his sentence, he starts getting dragged.
That guy had a REALLY rough day.
>>78282652
>Maul
>developed
Nigga had like two lines and then got cut in half.
>>78282732
The main governing rule of the NR (Senate) is dead, so that pretty much cripples what's left of it.
>>78282732
What was BTFO on Hosnian?
All/most of the senate?
All/most of the NR fleet?
I think they got rekt pretty bad
>>78282732
Well base don the fact that the NR's capital is moved around, I'm sure it's "fine." They'll probably do emergency elections and have some reflection on the events.
Pablo said they had a UN-style defense fleet as well, so I think that wouldn't be hard to build again.
>>78282742
The Death Star was a project supported by a galactic scale
The First Order seem to be schlubs who barely control a few thousand systems, how did they make a bigger one
>>78282606
I'm not surprised desu. The movie was good but it felt like it was a vehicle for OT references and everything else was thrown to the side. We need a middle between the PT's exposition dumps and heavy focus on politics and lore and TFA's complete lack and total focus on the characters and nothing else.
It's clear that J.J. tried to remake ANH without knowing what exactly made it so good. He put none of the subtlety into it. The little things that made it feel like a living breathing galaxy. He just used set pieces really. Desert planet. Maz's Cantina. Not Death Star.
>>78282785
Anon is talking about in TCW. Maul has several arcs to himself in that.
>>78282740
Well phasma disabled it legitimately, but under illegitimate circumstances.
They didn't expect someone to fly a ship at light-speed into their fucking shield, and then hold up a high ranked officer at blaster-point, all on a base on a tiny planet in the ass-end of the unknown regions.
They had every reason not to be all that concerned about it.
>>78282606
The general normie audience doesnt care about the politics, its one of the biggest complaints of the prequels.
They'll still have it all, it'll just be explained in the books, whereas the movies will focus entirely on the action/adventure and character drama.
>>78282785
He is in TCW too anon. He gets revenge on Obi-Wan, and then decides to create his own Empire with the intention of becoming a third faction in the war. Guy was sadistic and yet ambitious as fuck.
>>78281846
Was this a thumbs up or a middle finger?
>>78282463
It really bothers me that Coruscant is no longer the capital, like to an irrational degree. It just doesn't make any sort of sense and seems to only be the case of them distancing themselves from the prequels and perhaps to avoid having to make more CG renders of it with modern visuals. Not that I want more Senate shit or any significant amount of time to be set there in these films, but acknowledging it would be nice or maybe getting a few scenes showing the Republic leadership based there. Moving the Senate around between planets is just dumb, but maybe now that they got annihilated they'll move back there for safety.
>>78282785
>in TCW
>>78282804
Snoke must have something outside of the FO
>>78282732
Hosnian Prime was the current capital(since it switches around) but basically the leaders were all taken out as well as the Senate and the Republics fleet.
Member systems/planets of the Republic can just vote a new capital and elect new Senators/ask former senators to temporarily fill in during this crisis.
They'd also need to rebuild the fleet, but that shouldn't be hard because it's only said that the NR had the largest defense force. Planets probably have their own forces which they'll pool together into a fleet to take on the First Order
>>78282787
Majority if not all of the Senate (senators could have been off world doing other things) and an unknown amount of the NR fleet.
>>78282680
They made sure the side with the giant death laser never orbited in sight
>>78282680
Well didn't they convert a remote planet
And on top of that isn't it able to fire across systems?
>>78282785
Clone Wars
>>78282804
Feverish political devotion to a fascist dictatorship. That built the autobahn in the 30's, you know?
>>78282732
They're pretty damn crippled right now, and it feels like the FO get's the edge, for at least having it's leaders still alive. As for the NR, they lost their Senate and a good people and resources in that region.
>>78282813
>one officer can turn off YOUR ENTIRE PLANETARY SHIELD
possibly even worse
>>78282838
I seriously doubt that the entire NR defense fleet was stationed at Hosnian Prime.
>>78282804
Because this time they only converted a pre-existing planet instead of making a new one
>>78282872
Yeah it's still really stupid, I just want the right stupid thing to be called out, is all.
I wish Starkiller Base was something more original than just a very big laser.
>>78282805
It was still a good and enjoyable movie. The Star Wars franchise has truly now revived.
>dresses like his favorite character all the time while practicing with his homemade lightsaber that he can barely use
So basically Kylo is a teenage star wars fanboy
>>78282905
But then it wouldn't literally be A New New Hope.
Were those Star Destroyers orbiting the New Republic worlds?
Does the Visual Dictionary have anything about Starkiller Base in it? Namely, what planet it was before turning into a weapon, to prove/debunk once and for all if it was Ilum?
>>78282905
But anon, it sucks up the sun as a power source!
>>78282872
Certainly didn't look like it when it was getting blown up. There were a handful of large ships that I noticed, but certainly not the size fleet seen fielded by the Old Republic or Empire in previous films.
>>78282872
I think it was, but it wasn't that large. Remember planets in the Republic probably have their own small fleets as well now. I think Mon Mothma's plans in the end are going to work. FO just kicked a hornet's nest and lost their spray can doing it.
>>78282898
they wouldnt be able to move that though right? so the Death Star makes more since in some ways
>>78282905
I don't know, the premise that it takes an entire sun and then fires it back out at lightspeed is cool
>He is not worried about the First Order, as long as the former Imperials are contained within their borders and are following the dictates of the Galactic Concordance
This is the guy that fucked up
>>78282905
I wish the movie just didn't have a superweapon plot. It adds nothing to the movie and we're not even given much reason to care about it. The story should've focused on the search for Luke and leave the superweapon for another movie instead of trying to squeeze both plots into the same movie and ultimately weakening them both.
>>78282919
He's literally an edgelord who praises a mass murderer for cleansing the Galaxy.
Kylo is literally /pol/
>>78282919
He could use his saber fine.
You people act like he wasn't just shot, by the thing that was throwing fuckers meters away throughout the whole movie, in the gut.
He was winning until Rey went Force trust on him, and even then he was still defending himself well.
>>78282927
>But anon, it sucks up the sun as a power source!
Hell, that's worse than the laser
>>78282950
i want to see the old Empire fighting the FO at some point old galatic alliance style.
>>78282941
Does it matter?
I mean it's clearly able to hit across star systems, which is probably the advantage. It's in first order space somewhere that nobody knows about and nobody could normally get to because it's guarded by their forces, instead of running around blowing planets up like the death star
>>78282827
They had no problem rendering Hosnian Prime briefly, so it's not that. The film had plenty of other prequel references or callbacks, so it's not that either.
It's just part of the new canon. It makes sense too, since planets would be wary after 23 years of Imperial rule.
>>78282872
It was. The New Republic was mostly demilitarized and had a small fleet compared to the Galactic Republic and the Empire. The Hosnian System had all of the NR fleet and was destroyed by Starkiller Base.
>>78282950
I don't even remember seeing him. I'm guessing he was among the crowd that was watching the big red flash that was coming to fuck them up.
>>78282950
Look at Thanlis Depallo over there
>>78282944
I like how it powers itself
But big laser? Not very interesting aesthetic
>>78282905
I'm fine with it, it was cool looking and way more destructive. But they really better not do it again. 3 times is an absurd number of times to try the same exact plan, albeit the third time was vastly more successful than the previous 2. And that excuses it because the Death Star II was useless and only destroyed a single ship.
>>78282611
Not surprised you enjoyed it. You're not very intelligent.
Hux was a bland little geek and his 'speech' reminded me of Sinestro's speech in the Green Lantern movie, in that it seemingly served NO purpose other than padding to make the trailer look cool.
reminder
Also, even besides the pic- I went in really wanting to like this movie, and I did until Han showed up. Then it just nosedived into oblivion.
2/10
The worst film i've ever watched in theaters.
The score was dogshit too. Rey's theme was good and that's it. Jedi Steps was shit.
I really don't understand how anyone could enjoy this disastrous miscalulation of a movie.
>>78282974
>He could use his saber fine.
He really couldn't. It's not like Luke ever was taught that much, and on top of that it seems the Knights of Ren don't use them. He had basic training at best.
I think I loved the entire movie until Rey suddenly became a badass lightsaber user.
Have Kylo about to kill her only for a green lightsaber to block the killing blow and the movie becomes 10x better. Or at least do a 2 on 1 against Kylo. It just made no sense.
Take out Starkiller too. Then you got a great movie.
>>78282950
Part 2. I gotta pick this book up myself
>>78282958
I love it. He's like, what, 30 in character but Kylo's entire character is someone who hasn't had to evolve since he was 15. The tantrums, the affectations of control and gravitas, all of it. I love Kylo but he really is, as noted in interviews before, an unfinished villain. Which I only finally got when seeing him just spastically wreck a room in the movie.
Why did they never make an animated series about the cast of the original trilogy?
Especially in the 80's you'd think they'd have been all over that.
Anyone else kinda laugh at how Finn was wielding the lightsaber against Kylo like a competent Jedi and it was a legitimately impressive fight. And then Rey, force prodigy, comes in with the lightsaber and just kinda awkwardly pokes at Kylo while running backwards? It immediately took me out of the movie. It felt like their choreography guy played a joke on her.
>>78283024
>it just made no sense
>but luke coming out of nowhere for no reason does make sense
>>78283020
>posts EU fanboy image
>claims to have given TFA a fair chance
>>78282672
> I really wish they explained more about the difference between the Resistance and the New Republic.
They do in the opening crawl.
>>78281846
>Well Rey is the best character,
Only when compared to a literal piece of wood.
>>78282814
>The general normie audience doesnt care about the politics, its one of the biggest complaints of the prequels
while I agree, I wish they explained things a simple as the difference between the Resistance and New Republic, but I'm autistic when it comes to what's going on in universe and world building
>>78282950
>>78283029
i'm upset at just how inefficient the republic is. Get your shit together space politics
>>78282074
this
The hate has not ruined the PT for me.
>>78283029
>Traditional Ubardiani headress
>Sash of agreement
>SASH OF AGREEMENT
>That face
Oh God, my sides
>>78283029
What's the book so I can pick it up too
>>78283096
TFA Visual Dictionary
>>78283029
>Taris
I love it
>>78282487
>"Luke Skywalker? My name is Rey, I've come to find you, and I have a lot of questions to ask."
>"Okay."
>"First of all, why did-"
>DIRECTED BY J.J. ABRAMS
>>78283067
How would it be out of nowhere? He's the strongest force sensitive in the galaxy and an entire solar system just got wiped out and then his best friend was murdered by another force sensitive. Luke definitely felt all of that he's just a little bitch now and stayed in his hermit cave.
>>78283088
Do you think his sash helped him agree with death?
>>78283088
That guy looks like he lost a bet
>>78282805
>I'm not surprised desu. The movie was good but it felt like it was a vehicle for OT references and everything else was thrown to the side. We need a middle between the PT's exposition dumps and heavy focus on politics and lore and TFA's complete lack and total focus on the characters and nothing else.
That's where the live-action TV series is going to end up, obviously.
>>78283088
I swear, half the things pointed out in those blurbs in this book are outright intentional comedy, so many of them are stupidly funny. Like the one pointing out Han's new jacket and how Leia didn't notice it was new. Like who the fuck is writing that with a straight face?
>>78283024
>I think I loved the entire movie until Rey suddenly became a badass lightsaber user.
She didn't though. She was only able to hold her own because Kylo was fucked up majorly from Chewbacca's bowcaster shot(which was powerful enough to send FO Stormtroopers flying earlier in the film) to the side. Coupled with Snoke saying that Kylo's not completely trained, it's not hard to believe a force sensitive, staff-wielding woman could hold her own against him.
>>78282742
But they DID know about the Death Star.
That's why they fucking stole plans to it so they could blow it up, you bitch.
>>78283076
I didn't make the image
>>78283147
It burned up, which symbolized that he did not agree with death and thus was no longer worthy of the sash
>>78283147
His sash symbolizes his agreement to put on the fucking sash of agreement and stand in the background for a paycheck. His blank stare confirms that he's already accepted death.
>>78282950
So, he's the Neville Chamberlain of the Star Wars universe?
>>78283175
These books were always like this. It's a tradition I love it. Also Pablo wrote this VD.
>>78283175
I see you're new to the Visual Dictionaries, they've always been full of this kind of stuff
>>78280380
>>78283076
>someone criticizes TFA
>'y-you just didn't give it a fair chance you hater! ;_;'
>>78282953
And miss out on the nostalgiabux?
For shame, anon. How would you have gotten all of those normie reviewers to jerk off to it if you didn't beat them over the head with the fact that it's a blatant ANH rehash?
>>78283212
How long until Andi stops Pablo from drinking his coffee to ask about a one-off blurb from the book?
>>78283180
Yeah. Rey has a bit of combat experience, Kylo's not fully trained and fairly heavily injured, it's not far-fetched
>>78283064
Because they weren't sure what the plan for the franchise was gonna be post-Jedi, whether George would decide to keep going or not and they felt like a TV show based on the main crew would limit creative options for new films.
That's why Droids and Ewoks existed: 3PO and R2's past before the movies was fairer game and Ewoks were lucrative and off on Endor doing their own thing. They were popular characters, but not supremely important ones in the overall Star Wars story.
