>>78274518
how was the soundtrack to the newest movie to you all? i barely noticed it at all besides the few changes to the original theme

>>78274574
Wasn't a fan myself. I hope this isn't Williams last SW soundtrack or even soundtrack in general, I'd hate for him to go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

>>78274574
It had some good stuff amongst the quieter themes, but no real oomph like the Imperial March or Duel of the Fates or whatnot. Hopefully that steps up again in VIII.

Though I want to know why we didn't get the bitching version of the Skywalker theme used in the final trailer, that shit would have been on point blaring over the final action sequences in the darkness.

Is it even in the OST or do we not get a full version of it even still?

>>78274574
Lacking, it wasn't as memorable as the other ones.

>>78274518

ooooo man what a cool looking helmet. This guy didn't even have any lines! Boo. Yeah I know, JJ can't fit EVERYTHING into 2 hours, but this guy is so sweet looking.

Who else thinks Rey is somehow related to Obi-Wan? I think they're misleading us into thinking she's Luke's.

Camrip fucking when?
I need to see the movie again!

>>78274518
That's not new Boba, that's new Zuckuss or something.

>>78274574
Reposting from the last thread:
I've listened to the OST a bunch today, and it's definitely lacking iconic themes like all of his other Star Wars soundtracks, but it's still good. Torn Apart is my personal favorite track, it's very good and reminiscent of "Anakin's Dark Deeds" while also feeling different and new. I really hope he does the rest of the trilogy though, he's still the best there is and I believe he still has at least one more "Imperial March" tier piece left in him.

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>>78274964
Read pic related. Especially if you're a fan of TCW.

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>>78274976
>Who else thinks Rey is somehow related to Obi-Wan?
No, he died before he could sire her.

>>78274981
>I need to see the movie again!
Then go back to see it in theatres again.

>>78275008
Sounds vaguely similar to Flag Parade to me. I really love it.

>>78275008
>tfw they don't have the new Cantina piece for streaming

>>78275005

Ooooo MY. Is he cool? Tell me he's cool!

>>78274976
How could she be? She's like 20-21 years old, Obi-Wan died an old man probably about 15 years before she was born, and never had a family because the only woman he ever loved died during the Clone Wars.

>>78275025
I've seen it in theatres twice

>>78275025
>No, he died before he could sire her.
Granddaughter or niece/grandniece?

>>78275045
Read his short story and judge him yourself.

>>78275051
Relation=/=daughter

>>78274826
>>78274990

Except it wasn't just bad guys do bad things and good guys do good things and win. They literally redid plot points throughout the movie.

>>78274518
Does this guy have a Black Series figure yet? And Jedi Master Luke Black Series fucking when?

>>78275008
This is something that kind of got me about the soundtrack. The Resistance got a cool martial theme but the FO didn't get even a retooled Imperial March?

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>>78275008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwNpmpBC-t0

>>78275066
>>78275106
>Rey is the daughter of Larry Kenobi, Obi-Wan's delinquent younger brother

>>78275066
Did Obi-wan even have any relatives?

>>78275141
The family the Order took him from.

>>78275141
He had parents, who could have always had another kid after the Jedi took him. Wanting to have an heir they get to actually keep and a child to actually raise and all

>>78275141
Canon and EU never really elaborated on this that much. I know in the EU he apparently had a younger brother and was from a family of nobility.

>>78274574
lack luster, felt like it actually let down a couple of otherwise good scenes

>>78275106
Not only do we, the audience, not know anything about Obi-Wan's family or whether he had any siblings and could have potentially nieces/grand-nieces, but Obi-Wan himself didn't even know his own family because he was taken to the Jedi as an infant. It really wouldn't work or make sense, sorry. I personally don't think she's Luke's daughter either, but that's because now that I'm proven right that Kylo is basically Jacen Solo 2.0, I don't think there's a chance in hell they're going to resist having her be his sister. That poetry is too strong.

>>78275039
FUCKING THIS
WHAT THE FUCK
FUCKING WHY
YOU FUCKERS

>>78275136
My favorite song in the film, easily. And favorite scene. God damn.

>>78275170
He didn't have a brother, it was an abandoned idea to reveal Owen Lars was his step-brother apparently.

>>78274921
The trailer music wasn't Williams.

He definitely didn't bring his A-game this time. I don't think he liked the movie.

>>78275109
And you can condense most any two movies down to a shortlist of basic elements that makes it seem like they're identical.

I'm not saying that this movie didn't purposefully strike a ton of nostalgic chords. It's clear they were trying their damndest to keep this as close to the original trilogy as possible.

And I'm fine with it. If anybody's not okay with that, George Lucas made them a trilogy not too long ago that's thematically different enough they should be enjoy it.

I have a crawling suspicion Filoni was sitting in on a TFA production meeting when this scene was being drafted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hUbsyWgXbM

>>78275174
But the reverse-pottery

>>78275228
Can't blame him.

>>78275228
he did a bangin' job on the prequels, are you telling me his personal feelings for the film would have gotten in the way of THIS but not those films?

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>>78275228
I think he just didn't like not working with George Lucas on it. He's good friends with both Lucas and Spielberg, so it probably felt weird doing a new Star Wars without him.

>>78275228
I liked a lot of the pieces as their own things, but it didn't have the real oomph track one hopes for sometimes. Maybe he didn't like it, or maybe he just misses George.

>>78274518
I thought that helmet looked similar to Grievous. Good to know it's Kaleesh in design.

Dear Krampus

All I want for XMAS is a cam rip

I wuz not naughty, only a little lewd

KTHANKS

>>78275243
>And I'm fine with it. If anybody's not okay with that, George Lucas made them a trilogy not too long ago that's thematically different enough they should be enjoy it.
Not really, because the prequels weren't good films either. I want something that's both new and good, not just new and bad, or unoriginal and good.

>>78275251
non-shit quality for superior comparison: https://youtu.be/p7BOf8IJle0?t=1m53s

>>78275280
Just go out and see it you faggot

>>78275268
Maybe he did like the prequels though, you don't know.

any links for The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens book?

>>78275174
I really hope she isn't related to anyone we know.
Fucking inbreed galaxy.
> People of the galaxy start to get rid of any important personality relatives to prevent future troubles.
> That's why the jedi order demanded celibacy.

>post YFW in Episode VIII

>"Grandfather, I was tempted by the light when I saw my father,
>but one thing kept me on the true, dark path...
>...the memory of how coarse and irritating the sand on Jakku was"

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>>78275325
Sadly I don't think any of the reference books came out digitally.
The best you'll find are pictures of the pages.

>>78275289
There's lots of other movies out there you can go and watch, since you don't seem to like Star Wars.

And in any case, I'm sure the next one will be more than just a retreading of empire strikes back.

Your only other option is to watch your bombad prequels, okee day?

>remake of episode 4 but worse
>mixed with the worst arc of the eu but worse
>9/10s moty everywhere
How

I love how Poe is the new Wedge. That fucking scene of him shooting down 8 TIEs in a row while Finn was cheering him on was awesome

>>78275326
>has a force vision flashing back to her childhood being left on Jakku by her family after touching Anakin's Lightsaber
>Kylo Ren and his fellow Knights killing the Jedi are also seen in this same vision
>thinking she's not somehow related to Vader after that
Come on anon....

>>78275360
So just because I don't like lazy remakes that means I don't like Star Wars. OK, master shitposter.

>>78275372
I was holding all urges to go nuts when I saw him mulch that many fighters

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>>78275345

>>78275362
It's a good movie senpai

>>78275377
Don't forget r2 only activating when she was nearby

>>78275362
Disney shills. People so desperate for a good SW film after the prequels that they'll accept anything as long as it resembles the OT.

>>78275372
>cheering for terrorists

I think doing the 20 hour marathon was a mistake. I'm sleep deprived and can barely remember anything that happened once RoTJ started playing

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So whats the general opinion on the true badass of the movie?

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>>78275372
every X-Wing scene was down beautifully

>that first person scene inside of the X-Wing cockpit

>>78275372
That was the hypest shit, exactly how I always feel playing Rogue Squadron or flying fighters in the new Battlefront. Poe NEEDS to be a more central character in the rest of the trilogy though, he's really cool and has a great dynamic with Finn.

>>78275408
The First Order are the terrorists here, senpai. The destruction of the Hosnian system is their 9/11.

>>78275307

I did, shitlord

I paid $100 for two marathon tickets

Can I have my Star Wars credentials back now?

and a cam rip

>>78275420
Poe was pretty swag.

>>78275420
judging from the prievous thread? everyone believes he should hook up with Phasma in the afterlife

We should give him a nickname, he has the potential to become almost like a new Sixes.

>>78275408

>shooting unarmed villagers
>using sunny D energy to destroy an entire system of planets and killing billions
>literally imperial ISIS

Senpai come on now

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>>78275429
>implying the Republic is any better for destroying a planet sized base with millions of First Order citizens

>>78275379
They bent over backwards to recapture everything that made the original trilogy so good, and you're sitting here bitching about how it's "not original."

You said yourself it was fucking good. You're in a wasteland dying of thirst and when someone gives you a bottle of water and saves your life you tell em you don't like Dasani.

>>78275429
Payback for what the rebel terrorists did to DS I & II

>>78275280

If we all ask 100,000,000 times on Uprising general chat

our wish will come true

like the lightsaberfags' did

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>>78275420
His life was cut too short

>>78275459
They are though itd ome plane lt vs many .

>>78275459
It was a military base, senpai. No innocents there, everyone knew what they were in for.

>>78275407
Go back to /tv/, what are you even doing in a Star Wars thread when you obviously hate it? This was movie was easily up there with Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

>>78275372
He has more of a role and character than wedge

>>78275455
Basedtrooper

>>78275471
>bent over backwards
>implying this lazy shit took any effort whatsoever
Pfft haha, that's a good one.

>>78275471
>They bent over backwards to recapture everything that made the original trilogy so good,
That's the problem. If I wanted to see the originals I would watch it on laser disc. Not pay 20 to see a worse version

>>78275493
Speaking of Wedge, anyone else think that other pilot at the end looked kinda like Wedge? Not Grunberg or the gril.

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Quick poll.

>http://strawpoll.me/6303594

>>78275459
>stromtroopers are brainwashed
>the rest is like Hux at worst, idolizing what their parents told them was a better time

I still hope it'll end with Hux deciding force users universally suck and staging a coup with Phasma clones or whatever. Especially if Snoke will keep forgiving Kylo for being a fuckup.

>>78275449
Poe was awesome, every scene he was in was easily one of the best. But, i was impresed when they showed a random stormie being so good

>>78275475
Again, those were military bases. Not the same thing at all.

>>78275518
I'm pretty sure she was contracted for multiple things

http://strawpoll.me/6291092

Oh yeah, everyone's seen the movie by now right? Feel free to vote.

>>78275510

You mean bearded Porkins?

>>78275503
Maybe just B.T.? Or Batty?

>>78275509
You must've really hated the original trilogy as well, then. Since it wasn't original, and just a rehash of Akira Kurosawa's work and other stories George Lucas ripped off.

>>78275492
Weak bait.

>>78275455
Warboy Trooper. His brothers witnessed him and he was carried to the gates of Valhalla by Phasma herself, shiny and chrome!

>>78275362
People are usually too afraid to say their own damn opinion due to the fact that it's Star Wars and they don't want to look like the party-pooper in the time that this was supposed to be the 'Great Resurgence' of Star Wars cinema and are willing to nod and wave with the crowd so as not to be singled out and be called contrarians.

Not me, this movie was pretty damn disappointing and I give it about a 5/10, it was meh.

>>78274981
If you've already paid for it once, then okay for out again. Suck dick for money if you have to.

>>78275377
Could be anyone related to the academy shooting. Any relative of any student, or any force sensitive kids brought there then taken away for safety.
Or just her connecting to force and seeing a vision of her most traumatic experience and a vision of the threat she will have to face.

>>78275561
Stormboy.

>>78275554
It at least changed the setting and stuff. This was exactly the same.

Phasma obviously survived, Finn needs a rival.

>>78275575
I'm with you senpai. 5/10 seems fair.

>>78275518
Definitely not dead, embarrassed as fuck, but obviously made it out. They didn't show Kylo Ren or Hux escape either, but we can very plainly surmise they and many of the First Order personnel did manage to escape simply because that's how it works with villains and not specifically showing them die. And there wouldn't be much of a trilogy left to make if that were the case.

>>78275518
"[Lucasfilm President Kathleen] Kennedy has big plans for Phasma and confirmed that the captain will carry on into the next movie. “She’s an important character, a baddie in the best sense of the word.”"
-via LA Times

>>78275595
No it wasn't.

>>78274976
I think she's realted to Lor San Tekka somehow

>>78275609
I'd say 6 myself because poe and finn were pretty good characters.

>>78275527
True. It's rare to see real Stormtrooper skill outside of a shooting contest against Tusken Raiders.

>>78275633
Yeah, fair enough, I liked them too. Maz as well.

>>78275629
I just watched 4-6 that day. It was the same fucking movie but worse somehow

>well-acted
>great cinematography
>actually funny jokes
>catchy and endearing characters
>exciting action scenes despite the somewhat unwarranted resolution to the Rey/Kylo duel
>BUT IT REHASHES PLOT POINTS, SHIT SUCKS
Yeah, no.

>>78275631
That guy was just watching over her for Leia. He's obviously from Alderaan, in his own words he still considers her royalty, so he was likely a friend of her adopted family.

>>78275658
There were more problems with the movie than just that.

>>78275648
I watched 4-6 TWICE that day, and it wasn't the same, and it was good. Check and mate.

>>78275658
/tv/ shitposters and occasional salty prequel fan.

>>78275679
There were literally no problems with it, why are you even here if you don't like Star Wars?

>>78275613
> That moment when they realise starkiller is going to explode.
> "Stay at your post!"
> "Nope. I'm out."
Imperials actually look less brainwashed this time. At least officers.

>>78275707
>doesn't agree with different opinion
>MUST BE A SHITPOSTER LOL

How old is Rey? I'm still on that She and Kylo are twins train

>>78275658
I think playing it overly safe and basically doing a future remake of ANH is still a big flaw, though.

I hold trying new things pretty highly, though. Something I actually like about the prequel universe (not the prequels which are trash) is that they do a good job of making it feel like a vastly different era.

This is what, 20 years later but it's just trying way too hard to be a new hope remastered

>>78275679
It had logical, coherent characterization. It was well-paced. It has a theme. It's not a flawless film but it's a fun and well-made movie that doesn't deserve less than 7/10.

>>78275731
Novelization suggests 19. Same age as Luke in ANH

>>78275731
Early 20's I think. And yeah, I'm pretty well convinced that she's the Jaina to his Jacen. They may not be twins, but undoubtedly siblings.

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>>78275723
So you shitpost to tell him you're not a shitposter? Great logic.

>>78275731
If they were twins, Han and Leia would've reacted much differently to her.

I take Luke's expression at the end to be towards Rey and not the lightsaber

>>78275731
Daisy Ridley is like 22 and Adam Driver is like 30

>>78275709
The pacing was terrible, scenes were barely set up before we moved to the next one, the setting was horribly explained, most of the word building was done via supplemental material unlike the movie they're ripping off, ANH, which did a bang up job with the world building, despite an entire star system being lost, along with hundreds of billions of lives and the fucking Senate nobody seems to give a shit, not even Leia, who can particularly relate to such a tragedy, and finally, Rey is, for lack of a better term, a Mary Sue, she uses abilities she was completely untrained for, like being an excellent pilot for a ship she's never flown before, or being highly proficient with the Force despite not receiving any previous training.

>>78275674
>He's obviously from Alderaan
Was thinking that too. I wonder if Alderanian survivors will be a plot point of the period between RoTJ and TFA. I hope the fact the blow up other planets become a plot point for the next stories.

>>78275731
>>78275766
>meets Han and Leia
>neither of them say she's their daughter

>hurr she's their daughter

This is gonna sound stupid, but wouldn't it be cool if in Episode 8 there would be a scene where a guy actually grabs the blade of a Lightsaber and doesn't get hurt? Like some big fucker who is getting attacked by Rey and he just grabs the saber like "No".

>>78275801
They don't even mention having a daughter at all.

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Does there exist a PDF/CBR of the Ultimate Star Wars book that came out this year? The giant 300+page book that was the updated canon version pictured here?

Chewie has had a harsh life

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>>78275809

>>78275818
I don't think any of the reference books came out digitally.

>>78275855
His scream when Han died was horrible

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He did nothing wrong.

how long do wookies live?

>>78275871
His scream when he got shot was pretty horrifying as well. I don't like seeing Chewie suffer.

>>78275879
hundred of years, chewie was like 200 in the OT

>>78275879
some hundreds of years I believe

>>78275812
But they have a son named Ben, which really makes no fucking sense unless Luke named the kid

>>78275879
About 400 years on average.

Finn: It'll be fine, we'll use the force!

Han: thats not how the force works!

confirmed: Han is a Jedi

>>78275871
But that was counter acted by the killing spree and the explosive revenge he tried to enact.

>>78275879
Like 300 years I think. But that was only ever stated in the EU, so I don't actually know.
>>78275878
God tier character, my favorite by far and really powerfully acted, but he did plenty of things wrong. And that's why he's so interesting.

>>78275658
>ignores the problems with pacing
>ignores the problems with the setting
>acts like the movie rehashing plot points is a small thing and not one of the most important things factoring into whether the movie was good or bad
TFA was pretty good but come on now. You guys are doing the thing you always do where if someone gives off any little hint that they don't like something in Star Wars you call them a shitposter because you have absolutely no taste and like everything no matter whether its good or bad.

>>78275878
Hux did nothing wrong

>>78275859
I was kinda thinking that it would be a big guy and he would hold the blade in place with one hand kinda deal.
What exactly is this anyway?

>>78275914
I actually liked Finn a lot. His interactions with Poe and Rei are great. I liked how he and Poe clicked instantly.

>>78275878
He was a shitty ripoff of Jacen but worse

>>78275944
Autism.

>>78275932
>78275932
This is a legitimately 9/10 movie, go fuck yourself. /tv/ is clearly more your speed, you can meme there to your heart's content and shitpost with the rest of the autists who hate Star Wars and fun entertainment.

>>78275916

I was so worried he was gonna go down with the planet in the explosions

also fucked up Kylo good, putting him at a disadvantage in the duel. I loved how he kept punching his stomach where the wound was.

>>78275933
Hux didn't really do much of anything in this one.

>>78275138
Name is Larry, Larry Kenobi Heh heh

Chewie was GOAT in this movie.
>hurrrrgrrrrrowl
>nurse: thats very scary
>hurrrrgrr
>you must be very tough

>>78275944

Some polish deviantart mandofag who keeps masturbating over his violent OC with a skull helmet.

At least his art is improving.

>>78275955
Jacen was the best EU character, and this version is great.

>>78275963
Good job proving his point.

>>78275965
That made him look like a retard. He should have kept the mask on this movie and taken it off in 5 I mean 8

>>78275084
Do I need to know anything about the book itself, or will I know what's going on?

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>>78275965
Alright was I the only one who thought the duel with Kylo Ren and Rey felt off? I just thought Rey was a little to skilled with the force and lightsaber don't you. Still thought the fight was great though.

>>78275963
I never said it was shit, I just dared to say it was good, but with flaws. If you can't accept that a film isn't near perfect then you either have no taste or no spine.

>>78275988
That's not Ben skywalker but ok. And no this version is not on

>>78276008
>fight was great
>dat shit taste

>>78275428
I guarantee Episode VIII will have Finn and Poe going on an adventure while Rey learns to be a Jedi.
>yfw they meet Lando and the room cannot contain the sheer weight of bro-ness present

>>78275775
I'm not ready to buy the idea Rey is a Skywalker yet. Why would Luke or Leia leave their daughter on a shitty desert planet as a virtual slave scavenging parts for a scrap dealer, that's literally the way to create another Darth Vader.

I know it's not 100% sure but I think Rei is Luke's kid.What really convinced me was when she won the force grab duel for the saber, she won because she had connection to it's two previous owners while Kylo only had one. That and her knack for mechanics and piloting are traits for Luke and Anni.

>>78276008
She was already skilled with that strange staff she takes with her everywhere, as evidenced by her brawl with those thugs on Jakku. Same principle I suppose, fighting is fighting, and Kylo Ren is very obviously not well trained for it either on top of being fairly injured.

>>78275988
he's a legacy fag looking for approval from the grandpa he never knew

Don't know if that is more or less pathetic than him just being a Vader Fanboy.

>>78276029
>Why would Luke or Leia leave their daughter on a shitty desert planet as a virtual slave scavenging parts for a scrap dealer, that's literally the way to create another Darth Vader.
They already made one by training them they can't do much worse

And finn and Lando can bond over being traitors

>>78275982
>hrrrhuuugh
>YOU'RE cold!?

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Do you feel First Order Stormtroopers are more, equal, or less skilled than OT Stormtroopers?

>>78276008

it felt to me like she was struggling to keep it together and got the "win" bc Kylo was already fucked up from Chewie/Finn and getting emotional. +luck. and it's not like she wasn't a fighter, had that staff

>>78276008
It's more that Kylo was really fucked up and not that she was really all that good. Plus she has fighting experience with her staff

>>78276048
More. Because now Jacen is evil solely because of genetics.

>>78276047
Question, do you think Fin will get the saber and Rey will make a staff lightsaber or how do you guys think that will work?

>>78275878
He took off his mask.

>>78276008
She handled herself pretty well with that staff against those goons, so she's got some combat experience, and Kylo's not exactly an elite duelist, he had a hard time with Fin.

>>78276075

>Rey just tapes the lightsaber to the end of her staff

>>78276029
It doesn't make sense if she's Leia's daughter, but with Luke it'd be a way to protect her from whatever he was doing in isolation.

>>78276072
Well that and he was duped into thinking "hey its not the Dark Side if I DON'T think of it as the Dark Side...right?"

>>78276061
More, by a mile.

They may even be better than clones considering that they are selected and trained from birth. Clones didn't have as much experience or training because they are aged fast.

Finn knew his shit about the galaxy too, even though he'd lived a sheltered existence. and he was just a janitor.

>>78276061
More skilled against unarmed villagers certainly, less skilled against Han Solo. Vader's troops CHASED Han down the corridors of the Death Star while he was screaming like an idiot. Here he's just blasting them 10 feet across rooms with Chewie's Bowcaster while they ineffectually hit nothing. They even tried shooting down X-Wings with their blaster rifles.

>>78276061
FO seemed better from what we have scene. They also know that you should avoid the dark side guy when he is angry. I found the two troopers just backing the fuck away when they saw the sparks fly pretty funny.

>>78275136
>tfw all I could hear as my mind watch Han fall, was Qui-Gon's Funeral.
>The song just plays in my head as all the EU and Canon stories run through my mind

>>78276061
More as evidenced by captain baseball bat boy.

>>78276103
Broke the first rule of being a Vader descendant

Once the mask goes on, it doesn't come off. Cept with going to the bathroom, gets funky in there leaving it on. Never get the poo smell out.

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>>78276061
I just want a Stupid Trooper spin off already.

I honestly found Phasma more intimidating than Ren up until the end where he's going fucking crazy punching his wound and trouncing Finn/Rey, but they both get their asses whooped in really embarrassing fashion.

>>78276113
No that was Jacen. And even then he went through a hell is he war for years and was captured and brainwashed. And he lost his brother. So it's more understandable Jacen going evil than Bens well guess he was always destined to be evil them the breaks

Wonder where Ezra was in TFA?

>>78276109
That would be funny, but more than likely she will be a light side Darth Maul if anything.

Did anyone lose a limb this time? I thought Boyega was alluding to it by only wearing one glove at the premiere but ended up not happening

>>78275360
>worse EU story

I don't know. Jaina and Jacen's final battle, Jacen's purging of Kashyyyk...all were good moments.

>Audiobook used music for emotion setting and made good memories for me

>>78275986
anyone got the pic of him in his armor? i remember is smile is serial killer-tier

>>78276171
dead

>>78276175
I saw cloth fly when Rey fought Kylo and I thought here we go another Skywalker lost a hand, but it was just part of his cape.

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>>78276175
Kylo Ren possibly since Rey swiped at his leg in the fight but other than that no one was disarmed. C3PO has a Venom Snake thing going on though

>>78276110
If he was going to follow the Obi-Wan Kenobi school of child abandonment you'd think he'd at least set her up with a fucking adoptive family or some shit like he had. Why give her a purposely hard life, harder than his even?

>>78276164
>it's more understandable Jacen going evil than Bens well guess he was always destined to be evil them the breaks
We know literally nothing about how or why Kylo turned to the dark side. You can't criticise a story that you're only 1/3 of the way through for not being finished yet.

>>78276153
Vader took his mask off in that meditation chamber of his. It's off for Piett to see in ESB.

>>78276164
We don't actually know the real reasons or circumstances for Ben becoming Kylo Ren, and it would be foolish to assume that this is something they'll leave unaddressed in the next two films. I believe there's a lot more to him than we currently know, that intense idolization of Vader and his clear conflict within himself where he's actively trying to deny who he is don't come from nothing.

>>78276157
>There will never be a AAA republic commando with branching paths depending on whether or not you [sp]Kill Sev, who ended up getting lost in the confusing wilderness and never got the activation order, leading to him becoming a rebel trapper[/sp]

>>78276175
>>78276223
I could swear he lost his hand in Rey's final flourish, are you sure it was just his cape?

>>78275809
I'd rather it be Luke or Snoke using the force to stop the saber dead before it hit, but making a grabbing gesture for effect.

>>78276234
Exactly only when making a poo "meditating"

>>78275907
>Hey Leia, lets name our boy after that guy that turned off the tractor beam that one time. He was a good friend.

>>78276175
I thought Kylo Ren lost a hand since when Rey beats him something falls on the ground and lands next to him, but I guess not, other anons said it was his Lightsaber and that you could see both hands still attached.

>>78276229
Rey hamstringed him and gave him some face scars, but no mutilation. He'll come back a bit spookier looking in the next one, fail again and come back as a full cyborg his like senpai for the last one, I imagine.

>>78276247

Nah, pretty sure the face scar is his big reminder of the battle

>>78275426
I felt myself moving to turn or dodge.

>>78275778
>along with hundreds of billions of lives and the fucking Senate nobody seems to give a shit

they did care, there was no time to mourn because the weapon was aimed at them and they had to act.

>>78276246
>[sp]

how embarrassing

Really glad Rey isn't lusting after the comical BBC. Hopefully she'll meet Poe in the next one and fall head over heels for that beautiful, european looking man.

>>78276271
If it follows the formula and poetry, Kylo Ren won't be injured in the next one but instead Rey will lose a limb. One of her legs. That staff is foreshadowing, she'll end up needing to use it like a crutch.

>Ackbar being a background character

God damn it you'd think he'd have a line to a Republic battlegroup or something to help the Resistance out.

>>78276260
Well going by JJ Abrams he likely worte a fanficiton for him being an old family friend and shit.

And like hes' going to rewrite that headcanon.

>>78276271

OH man if he starts mutilating himself for it.

I wanna know about the training he needs to finish and shit. Like Snoke is competently manipulating him. also dark side but not sith? or head sith making himself a fiercely loyal death squad

>>78276315
I think the pottery levels would be higher if Kylo got the full Skywalker hero's journey treatment, hand mutilation in the second movie and all, only on the darkside.

>>78276316
Surprised he's still alive, he was already an adult military leader during the Clone Wars and clearly much older during Return of the Jedi. I guess fish people have long lifespans.

>>78276323
I'm interested in the Knights of Ren, they look like force sensitive users, but not Jedi or Sith. Kylo also didn't get any training with Luke, I wonder if he's even seen Snoke face to face yet.

>>78276315
Just saying having her hobble around like Kaz only to turn into fucking Sun Wukong in the blink of an eye would be badass

>>78276323
What if Snoke deliberately left Kylo untrained because he thought, with Luke gone, there was nobody who could take him?
Could have been an anti backstabbing ploy that backfired.

>>78276313

poe and finn seem like fast friends, and poe probably understands that finn likes her since helped convince leia to allow him and han to go save her. he won't make a move, and rey won't like him.

stop pushing your shit in every thread.

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>>78275583
I don't know how to car

>>78276103
Why is that a problem? Clearly he only did so because doing so would neither kill him, nor be extremely painful.

>>78276323
There was a piece of concept art on which Kylo has mechanical hands and a multilated face with nothing but the lips left intact.

>>78274976
I wonder if it would finally appease the mando leftovers if that was the case.

>>78276377
Well she's getting a romance arc, and it's not with Finn. Finn having some previous interest in her only rises the P O T T E RY levels, like Luke x Leia in A New Hope.

>>78276377
>poe and finn seem like fast friends,
I was surprised that Poe was the one that gave Finn his name.

>>78276386
I love you.

>>78276320

>people find it incredulous that leia might have met obi-wan or maybe have known his alias as ben

>>78276373
Well it's not like there's are other lightsaber users for him to train/kill anyway. Kylo was probably just picking up resistance scrap every odd friday and never had a real fight, it'd suit his character and his origins as a pompous prince.

>>78276339
Old Man Skywalker come flying in his T-65 jumps out flings from troopers around and causes that scrapyard saber to explode. One hand down. Now to find my Uncles and Graft it on, Also Grandfathers Saber...ohhhh *fap fap fap* "Grandson are you beating off to the family legacy again?" "....no?"

>>78275914
>thats not how the force works!
The successful implementation of grouchy gramps Harrison Ford here where it has been so problematic everywhere else it has shown up in was exceptional.

>>78276406
Next movie we need more Poe and Finn shenanigans. Have them start a sitcom or something together.

>>78276400
>Well she's getting a romance arc, and it's not with Finn.

no confirmation of this at all

>>78276431

I'm pretty sure Ford giving a shit and Han dying are related

>>78276406

Their dynamic was amazing, can't wait for them to have an adventure together

>>78276323
Right now, I don't even feel like Snoke is a force user. Aside from his line "there has been an awakening", I don't get the impression that he's actually a Sith or force sensitive. I think he's playing Kylo Ren like a fool, like Han said. Probably fed him some lies about the dark side giving him more power, played on his insecurities and obvious family issues, in order to get himself his own version of Darth Vader. I mean, not only does he have the son of two Rebel leaders responsible for the Empire's downfall on his side which would make for great propaganda, but also has the intimidation factor/built in reputation of having his own Darth Vader going around enforcing his will. People in the galaxy still remember Vader, they were terrified of him, so if the First Order comes out saying they have the second coming of him, that's bound to keep people in line.

Anyone have a picture of BB-8's thumbs up?

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>In order to complete his training, Snoke sends Kylo Ren to the tombs of Moraband
>While there he meets semi-sentient Holocrons of famous Sith Lords like Nihilus and Revan

How much do you want this?

>>78276400

>making up shit

man, seeing finn and rey together would reall tear you apart huh

>>78276056
Same here. I made an audible gasp.

>>78275968
He had that pretty fuckin sick speech to the troops pn Starkiller Base just before they commited genocide. Hux is crazy.

>>78276465
The fact that he asked Kylo to bring Rey to him heavily implies it.
He'd look like a right tit if the intimidation factor wasn't enough.

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>>78276471
> " I am Lord Revan and your helmet is a fucking knockoff you scruffy looking nerf fucker."

>>78276471
Extremely

>>78276284

Don't remind me about that stupid weapon.
-ABSORBS an entire star to fire a shot.
-That shot is somehow a hyperspeed laser, which makes no sense. They could have just brought back a super galaxy gun, or made the planet arrive in range of its targets, adding a few scenes for the Republic in the mix giving a bit of goddamn context to the whole affair.
-The plasma/laser shot, somehow is visible from a planet several systems away while travelling at hyperspeed.
-The laser somehow divides up into several branches or whatever accurately hiting every planet.
-Explosions are seen systems away in real time.

I mean at least the prequels and the OT TRIED to make things as believable and plausible as possible for a space opera, when the force wasn't involved that is. This was just ridiculous, and wasn't introduced to the plot as well as the deathstar was. It just felt as Abrams was feeding us a rehash of ep IV and knew it so well he decided to gift us with a simple remastered version of the big explosion and action scenes while cutting the exhibition dialogues (like the moff conference in a new hope).

All of that to show us "successful trench run N°3" no surprises, no plot twists, no novelty, nothing.

>>78276487
That was a goddamn grade-A fanatic speech. I was riveted.

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Post yfw Finn gets Dameron'd