Going vegan is the easiest thing and the best thing I ever did for my health and wellness.
>cheap
>don't kill animals
>Loose weight the right way
>not putting processed shit in your body
>Smaller footprint on the world
>Easy to maintain
Why don't people ever give it a try and see how it changes their lives for a month? I Guarantee that it will make a huge difference in that time frame.
>>7777673
>Loose
no thanks
i don't dine with morons
But today is international meat day.
https://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-reasons-why-vegan-diets-are-a-terrible-idea/
>>7777673
It's fine with me since i can still eat oysters
>>7777693
>i use "evidence" to justify ritual torture and slaughter
>>7777673
>cheap
not any cheaper than a non vegan diet
>don't kill animals
most people, like myself, don't care
>lose weight the right way
how about you just exercise you lazy fuck
>not putting processed shit in your body
you can be vegan and still put processed shit in your body
>smaller footprint on the world
see: animals
>easy to maintain
what does this even mean, I hope you're not implying it's easier to be a vegan than an omnivore
>>7777701
>see: animals
Humans are animals
>>7777673
Not thanks im already a skelly that cant gain weight
>>7777673
>let's go vegan for a month
the wifey is taiwanese. she'd take me to the hospital if i told her i wanted to stop eating meat.
>>7777699
>giving a single shit about farm animals
dumb cuck
>>7777703
yes and I don't care much for humans either, but cannibalization is generally bad for your health due to humans being poor quality meat
>>7777712
>wifey
Guess how I know you've never been near a woman
>>7777717
you're suffering from malignant astrocytoma and believe you know things about which you could not possibly have any information?
>>7777730
you're not proving anything here, virgin
>>7777673
>Let's go vegan for a month
HAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO!!!!
Tst
>>7777734
you told me to guess
>>7777744
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-reasons-why-vegan-diets-are-a-terrible-idea/
so the health boards of every first world country are all wrong. huh, good to know. thanks Authority Nutrition (tm)(c)
>>7777673
No thanks. I'm a type 1 diabetic. Low carb high fat works the best for me. I am healthier and it makes my healthcare much, much cheaper. I don't eat processed foods and I reject both consumerist culture and moral superiority complexes. I have a smaller carbon footprint than anyone I know. I grow my own vegetables and raise chickens. Have a nice day.
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>>7778633
>authoritynutrition
Borderline Buzzfeed tier
I'd like to start eating more vegetarian and vegan meals but I don't plan on ever going full vegan.
>>7777712
>the wifey is taiwanese.
How much did that cost?
>>7777703
We are Human Beings
we are animals and the same time we aren't
This is /ck/ not /phylosophy/ or /biology/ please try to ask cooking related topics
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>>7777730
>>7777673
I've been doing it over 6 years. It is so fucking ridiculously easy, if people ever tried they'd get it. Gets easier and easier as you go too. And the vegan market has expanded since I've been vegan (I like to think my activism played a role in this), so even more so for that reason.
Personally I think it takes more than a month to really get it, depending on the person. Someone could literally eat the same thing they usually do and just cut out meat and dairy and think it's a horrible diet, but they just weren't doing it right and for them a month wasn't long enough for them to get the hang of it.
Since people here are into cooking, here's one right way to do it: http://theradicalvegan.tumblr.com/
>>7777713
>not giving a single shit about farm animals
Overcompensating "tough guy" who is actually a huge fucking pussy who is too weak to go vegan so pretends it's the cool thing to do to not care, not realizing it's not convincing to anyone who isn't also overcompensating.
>>7778929
http://www.forksoverknives.com/type-1-diabetes-vegan-diet/
....But what am I posting that for? You deserve to suffer.
>>7779278
Pretty much all of those products are typically vegan and they're using extremely rare examples, or they aren't necessary at all and most vegans are very aware of them...
>>7777673
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>muh animals
the only reason farm animals exist is to be eaten by humans. if it werent for that, none of them would have been brought into this world by the farmer in the first place.
I don't think it's evil to eat or even to kill animals but it is evil to force them to grow up in nightmare factories
I try to eat less meat so when I do buy it, I can buy more ethically raised stuff
>>7779340
Do you have an argument somewhere in there?
>>7779340
And this is supposed to be a bad thing? Their existence is the number one anthropogenic cause of climate change and much more environmental degradation beyond that, from the day they're born their lives are filled with extreme abuse and torture, their consumption is deadly to humans, and I could go on.
But yeah sure the farmer's are just making sure they get to experience life, awwww.
>>7779342
You may want to sit down for this...
Even "Certified Humane" farms severely abuse animals.
http://theradicalvegan.tumblr.com/animals
>>7777673
>murdering plants
>>7777673
because i like eating figs
>>7779360
Yeah I know, and that fucking sucks dick. There's no point at which capitalism and a certain basic level of respect for lesser creatures intersect
2 words. Vegan cheese.
Tried this shit once and without a doubt one of the worst taste and texture combinations I have ever encountered. If this is the future I want no part of it
>>7777673
Fuck vegans. Dumbfuck passive-agressive little shits. Piss off.
>>7779611
which cheese did you try? some brands in stores, like daiya, are absolute garbage but there are some absolutely delicious ones
hell you can even make your own with a bag of cashews and a good blender
miyoko's kitchen cheese is the good shit
>>7779323
Nah, you're about as bad as those door to door religious salesmen. Enjoy what you want, the second you get preachy and want to push your shit on to me? Naw, ain't having that.
>>7779636
i can't remember the brand. It was orange coloured and made from coconut oil. It was a few years ago and i'd honestly be amazed if it still exists
>>7779629
OP isn't a vegan. This was obviously intended to be a vegan-bashing thread.
>>7779332
I've been a diabetic for 30 years. That link is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever read. High starch diets DO NOT make managing type 1 diabetes easier by any metric. It requires constant blood glucose monitoring, frequent injections, rigid daily meal planning and carb load/medication/exercise calculatiuon, as well as being at least two times more expensive. I'm doing very well now. You deserve to shut your whore mouth, you ignorant, preachy, holier-than-thou cunt. You are a God damned horrible person for telling someone they deserve to suffer for learning to manage their auto-immune disease very well and be healthy despite it going against your idea of how it should be done. I have been a diabetic longer than that whackjob, and I guarantee you I am in better health. My doctors have included me in papers about the effectiveness of my diet for type 1's. I sincerely hope you learn to be a better person, because you aren't one now. Fucker.
>>7779278
If you ignore the ones that vegans generally avoid, ones that have a multitude of vegan options that people choose, and the ones that repeat themselves, you only have about 3 valid points on this lmao
>>7777673
The main reason for most people is: because i like animal products
The world is so complex nowadays, that you could pick a million things that could be changed to make the world a better place, the wellbeing of animals is just not even close to my "top of the list".
Also a cooking forum, a place for people that value "taste"/eating and thus having a variety of products higher than your average person, is probably the wrong place for trying to convert people, especially since people interested in cooking, most likely, are already more conscious about what they eat.
No vegan/vegetarian i know values food and taste very highly.
concerning your points
>cheap
completely false
>Easy to maintain
much higher effort needed in sourcing products and recipes and cooking in general
>Loose weight the right way
whatever the "right way" is, but meatconsumption typically isnt what makes people fat, still true though because cooking and eating vegan is a hussle so you naturally eat less often.
I know this is bait and you want to get attention to this blog, but still
>>7777703
i agree
>>7777699
>"evidence"
It's evidence. No quotes, you dumb fuck. Clear as day.
Until going off animal products doesn't make you sick, I'm still going to eat them.
>>7779340
is-ought
Veganism = Malnutrition
>>7777777
It's coming
>>7777673
>for my health
Not falling for it.
>>7777673
I was going to go Vegan but your mum said I couldn't eat her cunt if I did. Eat you fucking steak son.
>>7777673
the only legit reason to go vegan is muh greenhouse gasses.
even then just getting the general population to eat less meat would be sufficient.
oh and cutting down on wasted food.
>>7779673
You dismissed veganism as a "moral superiority complex". You deserve to suffer. And it's already been proven that a vegan diet is the best for type 2 diabetes. Seems like it's not far from being proven to be the best for type 1 as well.
Diabetes, hypertension, obesity more prevalent among meat-eaters than vegetarians: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23283037
Vegetarian and vegan diets have advantages in treating type 2 diabetes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20425575
Strong protective association between Taiwanese vegetarian diet and diabetes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
Strong protective association between vegetarian diet and diabetes (after controlling for confounders): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
Lower intakes of saturated fat may reduce cognitive decline in individuals with type 2 diabetes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19336640
Diets higher in protein and animal protein increase diabetes risk: http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/animal-protein-linked-to-increased-diabetes-risk
Vegetarian and vegan diets present advantages for type 2 diabetes treatment:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19386029
http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/vegan-diet-best-for-type-2-diabetes
Also, Insulin-dependent diabetes (Type I or childhood-onset) is linked to consumption of dairy products. Epidemiological studies of various countries show a strong correlation between the use of dairy products and the incidence of insulin-dependent diabetes.17,18 Researchers in 199218 found that a specific dairy protein sparks an auto-immune reaction, which is believed to be what destroys the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas.
17. Scott FW. Cow milk and insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus: is there a relationship? Am J Clin Nutr 1990;51:489-91.
18. Karjalainen J, Martin JM, Knip M, et al. A bovine albumin peptide as a possible trigger of insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus. N Engl J Med 1992;327:302-7.
>>7779641
You torture animals and push environmental destruction on me and every other living being on the planet. And you're getting bitchy at ME for trying to get people to stop. Kill yourself.
>>7780075
This is the dumbest thing for so many reasons. I'm going to save myself time and assume you're making a joke though.
>7777673
>not putting processed shit in your body
>Food processing is the transformation of raw ingredients, by physical or chemical means into food, or of food into other forms.
>>7780230
http://theradicalvegan.tumblr.com/health
>>7780521
>You torture animals and push environmental destruction on me
so do you. look at your cell phone.
>>7778958
the tally is ongoing
>>7780542
Why not improve things where you're able?
If you give up technology, what do you have left? That wouldn't be reasonable.
>>7780562
>If you give up technology, what do you have left? That wouldn't be reasonable.
Ah, so as soon as it's a thing you like, it isn't reasonable?
The Amish would disagree with your assessment by the way. From their perspective you're an inveterate sinner who has strayed from the path. They are morally superior to you.
>>7780562
because meat improves my lifestyle.
animals are bred to be killed, this wont stop because its a renewable source, and its deliciously nutricious. get your head out of your ass. your middleclass pseudoactivism only makes yourself feel better and your social circlejerk
>>7780570
It's not about liking it. It's for better or worse a crucial part of doing pretty much anything these days, meat isn't.
Giving up a type of food doesn't mean completely withdrawing from modern society. Pretend it's an allergy.
Would your life change in any meaningful way if you were suddenly vegan?
>>7780601
>. It's for better or worse a crucial part of doing pretty much anything these days
Like cell phones and computers? Why haven't you given those up yet?
>>Would your life change in any meaningful way if you were suddenly vegan?
Massivley. Food without meat-based stocks, etc, would suck something fierce. Not to mention it's silly (from a nutritional perspective) to cut out a whole food group for those reasons.
>>7780601
Not going on facebook every five minutes won't mean you withdraw from society either if that's what you think. Heck, I'd
>>7780601
>It's for better or worse a crucial part of doing pretty much anything these days
Sorry, you've lost the moral high ground to the Amish, you evil sinning bastard.
>>7780601
>Would your life change in any meaningful way if you were suddenly vegan?
yeah i'd be a whiny insufferable cunt, apparently
>>7780530
The overwhelming majority of vegan fags have NEVER left the safety of their urbanite western world, which means they haven't seen the difference between humans raised on a steady supply of animal protein, and those that haven't.
The difference is startling.
Not only do we tend to be taller, but we have greater bone density and muscle mass. We're like "super humans" compared to the protein deprived vegan fags that exist in Asia, Africa, and every other shit hole that survives mainly on veganism.
Any western parent that tries to raise their kid on a vegan diet is fucking them HARD, as they won't develop to be as big and strong as their meat eating peers.
You all can go vegan and turn into giant pussies if you want, but I'll stick with being an omnivore and maintain my muscle mass so as to be able to throw you pussies through a wall should the need ever arise.
>>7777673
dying is the best thing i did for my health
>cheap
>don't kill animals
>Loose weight the right way
>not putting processed shit in your body
>Smaller footprint on the world
>Easy to maintain
>>7780783
Decent bait
>>7779330
feeling empathy for non humans is a telltale sign of sociopathy and genetic defects tho
>>7780783
>should the need ever arise
When would you ever need to do that.
>>7777673
>cheap
Not for a proper vegan diet that doesn't taste like bland shit.
>don't kill animals
>Smaller footprint on the world
Could not give less of a fuck.
>not putting processed shit in your body
"Processed" is an absolutely meaningless buzzword when it comes to food. If anything you need more processes to make vegetables palatable than meat.
>Easy to maintain
Not as easy as a normal diet where I don't have to take supplements or worry about being malnourished.
>>7780795
None of it is bait, anon.
None of it.
>>7780818
Weak bait
>>7780820
Sure, pal.
Sure.
>>7780807
>not for a proper vegan diet that doesn't taste like bland shit
You just sound like a shit cook
>Could not give less of a fuck
That's because you're a deranged aspie
>where I don't have to take supplements
A lot of people take supplements, a lot of people aren't vegan, only thing you might need to supplement is B12 anyways
>about being malnourished
Most people are probably "malnourished" by your standards in that they are deficient in something. It's not hard if you keep track of your diet like anyone in the world should
You subscribe to outdated stereotypes
>>7780826
Even weaker, still getting a (You) so I suppose it's not THAT awful
>>7780510
i also have type 1 diabetes and i am very skinny i simply cant get enough calories through vegetables
i need fat i like to eat meat with my veggies all the time
fat has no effect on blood glucose
starch does sugar in fruit does
veggies are low carb though while they do have effects on blood glucose its smaller
but meat is one of the best things for diabetic like me
>>7777673
Nah. Don't wanna.
>>7777703
If it weren't for us there would be no cows, inferior horses, no pigs, no chickens.
If we wouldn't eat farm animals they would've been be extinct or never have existed.
>>7780931
*citation needed*
>>7780956
Come on just believe it and enjoy your steak. Honest to god though, in current climate (no predators but humans) they'd survive. Diary cattle would die though.
I just hate people sobbing about cattle. I'm a supporter of wildlife and absolutely despise hunting or eating endangered species though.
>>7779636
>daiya
>trash
ayy fuk u
Daiya is absolutely scrum-diddleyumptuous tier when melted on pizzas or in recipes, but trash plastic shreds when eaten cold. If you're the type of person who eats shreds out of the bag without bothering to cook them, though, then you're a mongol and have bad taste.
PS kite hill shits on miyoko
>>7780889
That person is pretty out there. Telling type 1 diabetics to eat high carb diets is like telling people with lung cancer to smoke more cigarettes. But you know, it's cool, they make better medications all the time. What, you don't want to spend thousands of dollars a month on healthcare or be a drain on the public healthcare system? Well fuck you then. You deserve to suffer.
Just listen to your doctors, not retards on the internet.
>>7781096
how about do some research on your own and learn how diabetes actually work and what causes it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t4tBmbPko8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrE3FW7wZk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm-UcdE3nTQ
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>>7780931
If it weren't for us there would be no African Americans.
If we didn't enslave Africans they would've been extinct or never existed.
>>7781361
Guy, you're not rocking my world here. Type 1 and type 2 are distinctly different diseases with some similarities. I've had the type 1 beetus since I was a child. I've been doing the ketogenic diet since before endocrinologists started recommending it to their type 1 patients. You need to chill and accept you're not an endocrinologist and veganism is not healthier for every person on the planet. I ain't even annoyed by your bizarreness anymore. Just laughin at you, bub. You're trolling 4chan cooking boards for people with medical conditions? That's pretty neato.
>>7780795
>>7780530
Why are vegans in such denial? You don't even need to travel to a foreign country, just go outside and wait for Asians to show up.
Compare the young Asians born in the USA with their parents. Not only are the younger ones much taller, their bones are considerably larger. The only difference is that their parents were deprived of animal protein.
The difference exists everywhere on the planet. The milk-drinking Tutsi are far taller than the farmer Hutu, the Khampa of Tibet are recorded as being much larger than the other Aisans around them, and the Plains Indians (who ate mainly buffalo and little else) amazed the American settlers by their health and height.
>>7777699
>conveniently forgets about hunting wild game
>>7779332
Oh god, you are the most retarded form of vegan.
http://anthonycolpo.com/forks-over-knives-the-latest-vegan-nonsense-dissected-debunked-and-destroyed/
>>7781895
>self proclaimed guru shits on other gurus
>>7781846
The difference is that most of those people are poor as fuck and lack nutrition period. In the modern world, it is easy to have completely balanced diet, as long as you aren't a poor fuck (only matters on its effect on time investment and education, not the actual cost of food).
I give you a hamburger. The universe is engulfed within itself. A bus advertising hotdogs drives by a papillon. You ask for a hamburger. I reciprocate with a mildly convulsing potato. You disapprove. Your disapproval releases a cosmic shift in the void between birth and life. You ask for a hamburger. The universe realigns itself. You, the papillon, and the hamburger disapprove. This condemnation stops the realignment. Hades freezes over. A pig is launched is launched into the unoccupied existence between space and time with a specific hamburger. You ask for a hamburger. I give you a hamburger. It screams as you lift it to your face. You laugh maniacally as I plead with you. You devour the hamburger as it pleads for mercy. I disapprove and condemn you to an eternity in a certain void where a certain pig and its specific hamburger are located. The Universal Space-time Continuum Committee disapproves of my irrational decision. You are locked away and are fed hamburgers for the rest of your natural existence. A pickle refuses to break down during the process of digestion. You die in a freak accident. A certain pickle lives the rest of its life in a comatose state. Your soul disapproves. Down the street a child cries as a hamburger gets stuck in, and climbs back up, her esophagus. You ask again for a hamburger. I refuse to reciprocate. I remind you harshly that this is the new world order. Your name is written on a list of sins. Blasphemy. You ask for a hamburger. You beg for a hamburger. Your soulless corpse partakes in the festivity. Hamburgers are banned universally. The sun implodes. All planets cease to have ever existed. Mercury. Venus. Earth. Mars. Jupiter. Saturn. Uranus. Neptune. Pluto is the only mass in existence. Your need for hamburgers re-establishes space-time. Earth is recreated under your intergalactic rule. Hamburgers are your army. Your dream rushes to meet you. You are kidnapped. You ask for a hamburger. They hand you a hotdog.
I thought about being vegan, but I just don't want attention that badly.
>>7777673
>not putting processed shit in your body
Most processed foods are based on plant extracts and are in fact vegan.
Name any candy or snack food, nine times out of ten it'll be vegan or not "processed shit".
Also, "processing" isn't bad for food, it is extremely vague and can be as simple as blending it. Do you even food processor?
Also I'm not a fag, so I like eating meat.
>>7779361
>murdering plants is worse than murdering plants to feed animals that you will murder
Every vegan cake or pastry i have eaten has given me diarrhea
>>7777673
>>7783119
Why are you fucking pussies triggered everytime you see the word "vegan" ?
Grow up for fuck sake. it's getting ridiculous.
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>>7783138
>vegans are the only people in the world neglecting their babies
>Thanks to cherrypicking and cognitive dissonance, I don't have to change my habits
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>>7783146
Do you seriously have an anti-vegan folder in your computer nigger ? How pathetic is that ?
Are you an infant ? The article says you don't have to worry if you're an adult, and guess what, omnivores would also be dieficient if animals didn't take B12 supplements.
>>7783143
cherrypicking. Bitch is stupid and knows nothing about nutrition.
>>7783155
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>>7783155
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>>7783159
all of your articles are about babies.
All of the people mentionned are irresponsible and know nothing about diets and nutrition.
>You are not an infant so you dont have to worry
>If you're here you probabky know a lot about nutrition so you don't have to worry
Dude your only argument against veganism is "b-but some people malnourished their babies"
http://vegansidekick.com/guide
>>7783170
>>7783170
>are irresponsible and know nothing about diets and nutrition.
That's a given for a Vegan diet, right?
>>"b-but some people malnourished their babies"
Which ought to make it pretty clear that a vegan diet is nutritionally deficient.
>>7783166
omg that's horrible, poor kid
>>7783169
>>7783170
>>7783174
Based Australian gov.
>>7783169
plants don't feel shit, you know it and I know it, stop being fucking stupid.
Also you're consuming more plants than vegans since animals have to be fed.
Also the fact that you're stating that plants can feel shows that you are sensible to the fact that animals suffer but you're rejecting the fault on vegans instead of changing your habits.
>>7783178
Based USA gov.
>>7777673
Eating more vegetables and fruits is great and the benefits do show in a month. Veganism isn't necessary.
>>7783179
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>>7783176
>That's a given for a Vegan diet, right?
......No, sorry dude
>Which ought to make it pretty clear that a vegan diet is nutritionally deficient.
No. It makes clear that some people are stupid, that's all.
Babies can be fine with a vegan diet.
Look up some vegan sites instead of typing "why veganism is bad" on google
>>7783188
>>7783190
>>7783184
Yeah we get it.
>BREAKING NEWS : People are ill because of ignorance !
>>7783193
>lumping vegetarians with vegans
lol nope. A vegetarian diet is superior to a vegan one.
>>7783190
>......No, sorry dude
From a perspective of nutrition, why do you thinkit makes sense to arbitrarily limit the foods you might eat?
It seems that's more of a compromise: Some people are OK with making the nutritional compromise of eliminating animal products from their diet in order to satisfy a moral goal. They're trading nutrition for a moral stance.
but in the context of nutrition alone, doesn't it make more sense to have the widest possible selection of foods to chose from? Why restrict yourself from ideal sources of many of the nutrients that your body needs?
>>7783197
Vegans are basically chronically ill people. They have to take dietary pills to treat their Vitamin B12/D and iron deficiencies so they have the freedom and moral obligation to live life like cripples.
>>7783201
Why is everyone talking about B12 so much? It is ridiculously easy to get enough B12 from non-animal sources.
Drink an energy drink once a year or last time I bought a soy yoghurt I noticed it was fortified with B12.
>>7783197
>>7783197
Why aren't you eating dog meat? Doesn't it make more sense to have the widest possible selection of foods to chose from ? Why restrict yourself from ideal sources of many of the nutrients that your body needs?
Also vegans are a lot more diverse in their diets than most of omnivores
>>7783201
Stop basing your worldviews on what you read on 4chan and go outside. This is false.
>>7783211
>Drink an energy drink once a year or last time I bought a soy yoghurt I noticed it was fortified with B12.
Nope. Not that easy. Absorption of synthetic oral B12 has a ratio of 1:1000. From 1000mcg, only 1% makes it into your body. That is why vegans need IV B12 in the long run.
>>7783190
Are you fucking serious? Babies can be fine with a vegan diet? You would roll the dice raising an infant human on a scientifically proven nutritionally deficient diet for babies? Holy shit. You are either a very nasty troll or a complete tinfoil hat wearing crazy. Oh, God, please stay away from children.
>>7783215
>Stop basing your worldviews on what you read on 4chan and go outside. This is false.
I'm basing my "worldviews" on what the doctors of my vegan girlfriend and of a long-time vegetarian friend have said. I will definitely not take the words from someone on 4chan, especially not yours.
>>7783215
>Why aren't you eating dog meat? Doesn't it make more sense to have the widest possible selection of foods to chose from ?
I don't have a problem with eating dog meat, anon. Frankly I think it's silly how many people are OK with eating a pig or chicken but freak out at the idea of eating, say, dog or horse.
But as for why I don't eat it?
1) It's not legally sold in my area
2) Predatory and/or those who use scent marking to communicate (like dogs) generally don't taste very good
3) I am unaware of any sort of nutritional component that's found in dog but not easily found elsewhere. Compare that to, say, liver which is a far better source of many vitamins and minerals than plant-based sources are.
ITT: Vegans BTFO!
>>7777693
>2. There Are No Studies Showing That They’re Better Than Other Healthy Diets
>Other Healthy Diets
>implying a vegan diet is healthy
>>7777673
>Smaller footprint on the world
Nigga, I want the entire world to remember me, I want my footprint on the world to BE the world. I want people to look back and think "goddamn, I wonder what the world would be like without Anon". Fuck this modesty anonymity bullshit, I want to be the defining factor of our age. Veganism is for underachievers, faggot.
>>7777701
Cheap my ass
>>7779673
Triggering intensifies
>>7781004
Is Christ watching
>>7777673
>Right thing to do
>smaller footprint
You know what has an even smaller footprint than going vegan? Growing your own food in your backyard and owning a chicken. The only reason you can be vegan in 2016 is because of the surplus of food the world has. If we went back to farms on the brink of towns, you'd all die.
>>7781096
That makes your comment null/void isn't that contradicting
>>7784623
you make terrible mushroom sauce
>>7784633
Good rebuttal, friend.
>>7782201
Are you high or some philosopher?
>>7779673
>What the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch? I'll have you know that scientists included me into their top papers
You sound agitated. You do realize 4chan is a pack of morons and joksters screaming at each other - covered by a thin veil of "discussion".
The last thing I want is to go grocery shopping more than I already do. Fruit and veg doesn't keep that long
>>7783156
You assume he is black because he's anti vegan https://youtu.be/Yy8MUnlT9Oo
>>7784652
>implying no other race can be anti-vegan
Who is this retard, anon?
>>7784623
You'd think that vegans would get along with conservationists and environmentalists, but they usually don't. They're fucking bizarre. The hypocrisy and zealotry of some of them is ridiculous. What do you expect from people who kill their own children?
>>7784662
A good meal, but shit, I haven't got that either. Dairy and egg are almost always essential in something. Animal products are essential everywhere.
veganism is cancer, reducing your footprint and eating healthily is good but at least mix some fish, eggs, maybe some whole milk, and maybe some quality cheese too
>>7784662
>You'd think that vegans would get along with conservationists and environmentalists, but they usually don't
I'm actually curious as to how this happens.
>>7784678
Common interest, uncommon ideals.
>>7777693
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-5-reasons-why-vegan-diets-are-a-terrible-idea/
This is one shitty article.
>>7784672
Yeah, and animals and crops grown together are crucial to sustainable local/regional farming, too. If I had to make my best guess about the whole movement and the people involved in it, I'd say it's an overreaction to current industrial farming. Sane people promote balance, not another kind of imbalance. I do sorta get where they're coming from. This system is not so great. Their solution is not correct though.
>>7784686
Fuck you pussy motherfucker you don't know how to make mushroom sauce
>>7784712
You got me, I'm going to dedicate my life to collecting welfare cheques like you do.
>>7777673
>vegan means eating no processed foods
wrong
>cheap
partially wrong
>don't kill animals
indirectly it does
>smaller footprint
wrong
>easy to maintain
more effort than to not be, actually
why are vegans so deluded??
>>7784910
Because what they really want is the downfall of capitalism and the establishment of a socialist utopia. Or they have been fooled by people who do.
Either way it's a great way to fabricate a false sense of superiority to lord over others without actually developing a quality objective value system (which could threaten to suggest traditions may have merit.)
Just made banana ice cream. Not because I'm vegan but because I had some frozen banana slices begging to be used Color me impressed though. The texture went from chopped nuts to stiff dough in a matter of seconds. The texture is way cool. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever done and I can imagine all the ways that this can be customized will keep me coming back. I chose to add a hint of cinnamon and topped it with blueberry-ginger puree. I'm gonna be so happy tomorrow morning.
>>7784928
>They
You know what mistake you made? It's an extraordinarily stupid one.
>>7777699
That's completely irrelevant to his argument. Most of us don't need to "justify" or rationalize killing and eating animals so it doesn't tie in to what he was saying.
>>7785313
Aww, did the leftist with the over inflated sense of self-righteousness mistake speaking in generalities for absolutes and feel proud about himself?
>>7783179
>plants don't feel shit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BLTcVNyOhUc
>>7786026
That's not feeling.
>Loose weight the right way
Oh yeah? Any proof to back that up vs exercise and calorie restriction?
No, I'm just going to continue eating meat. I don't know why Vegans try to spread their religion.
>>7782201
This is my favorite thing on 4chan
>>7786076
Yup, those are feels.
>Plant senses - Plant perception is the ability of plants to sense and respond to the environment to adjust their morphology, physiology, and phenotype accordingly. Other disciplines such as plant physiology, ecology and molecular biology are used to assess this ability. Plants react to chemicals, gravity, light, moisture, infections, temperature, oxygen and carbon dioxide concentrations, parasite infestation, disease, physical disruption, sound, and touch.
>>7783179
>Also the fact that you're stating that plants can feel shows that you are sensible to the fact that animals suffer but you're rejecting the fault on vegans instead of changing your habits.
Vegans and only vegans are entitled to killing living organisms for food, the post.
>>7783243
>horse
which is weird, since traditionally horse meat is considered "non-taboo"
stop arguing and post simple recipes
>>7786026
my god! nature what have you done?
accidentally bought gluten free spaghetti, pepperoni.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAlt4Sfl7Q
>>7777713
>Pretending to have no empathy to look tough on the internet
Brainless cunt.
>>7786364
It seems to vary by country. In France and Japan it's a delicacy. My father (British) described it as cheap meat (e.g. poor people food) when he grew up. In the US it's largely taboo.
>>7786681
Not even the anon, but why would I feel anything towards stupid animals that have little to no cognitive function when compared to humans? Sorry, but unless a fucking cow or chicken can suddenly perform brain surgery or work for us, it's going to get killed and fed to me. Useless animals that exist to be food. Yum.
>>7786691
>why would I feel anything towards stupid animals that have little to no cognitive function when compared to humans?
You're asking the wrong person, anon. I was the one who posted earlier up the thread that I had no problem eating dog meat, and the idea that some animals are OK to eat while others are not is just plain hypocrisy.
>>cognitive function
I'm not even sure that matters. It's called the food chain.
>>7777693
Dude, what?
I'm not vegan or anything, but
>Despite all the propaganda, there really isn’t any evidence that meat, eggs, or animal-derived nutrients like saturated fat and cholesterol cause harm.
>There really isn't any evidence that cholesterol causes harm
>literally heart disease: the molecule
>>7777673
BUT I HAVE PRIMAL NEEDS MY BLOODLUST DEMANDS IT
>>7786759
AuthorityNutrition is a well known meat industry/paleo shill
>>7786759
Lemme guess, you still don't know the difference between dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol?
Do you also think that scabs cause cuts? Or that casts cause broken bones?
>>7786806
>>7786853
What does that have to do with the point at hand?
Do you really think that rabbits (coprophagic obligate herbivores) are a reasonable comparison for humans?
>>7786853
Cause I like meat :3
>>7780972
>absolutely despise hunting
You must be shitting me right?
>>7786026
Aww, that's almost cute.
