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Is Dragon Ball Super finally saved? New Android Saga confirmed.
The Android Saga is what killed DBZ.
So unless you're following some kind of reverse thought process with Super, no, Super is very likely not saved.
>>142497511
>>142497511
But this was my favorite season, anon. More battle focused and without ugly aliens designs from the Freeza Saga.
>>142497511
Nah, I think the Android/Cell Saga was amazing. It really set up high potential of where DBZ could go with the changing of the torch to Gohan.
DBZ went to shits with the BUU Saga and throwing away years of character developement for Goku just to be the best all over again.
On a side note: Super will still be shit even with Future Trunks
>>142497664
How as it any more battle focused than the Freeza saga? Nevermind how there were hardly any decent fights in Android saga.
>>142497417
Beerus will find a way to ruin it.
>>142497764
Monaka will defeat Black Goku.
not if they keep up with this shit tier artwork
why are we not getting top notch artwork for one of the world's most beloved anime of all time
>>142497764
How? By distracting the audience with his sexiness?
>>142497889
It's a money printer. Cut costs to maximize profits.
Everything you have ever loved does this.
Ow the edge.
>>142497978
The climactic battle will occur off screen while Beerus indulges in eating a dick.
>>142497417
Use the fucking catalog retard
>>142497417
More like is reinforces the suspicion that Toriyama is completely out of ideas.
and at least sorda pretend to not be a blatant cash-in.
Dragon Ball ended 20 years ago
>>142498031
>Doesn't even go super saiyan to fight black
Seriously?
>>142498031
Toei a shit, but can't wait to see the manga version.
>>142498241
It's a preview. He probably tried and got his ass kicked.
>>142498241
He's transformed in Super Saiyan Blue.
>>142498241
He'll probably do so in the actual episode. Granted, it wont make even the slightest difference given that Black will be at least as powerful as the real Goku.
>>142498321
How exactly can he do that when there's nobody to preform the ritual?
>>142498382
The same way Vegeta did, training.
So is the original Super Saiyan mode finally killed off? Apparently everyone and their mothers can go Blue Hair Saiyan. Did they decide to trash the yellow hair and have this supposedly "better form" be the default? Thank god I'm not bothering to watch this shit
>>142498446
Original still shows up on occasion.
>>142498446
Toriyama just picked the most retarded moment imaginable to give retcon Trunks into having his mother's hair.
>>142498446
I wonder if Trunks actually ends up dying his hair because he doesn't want people to realize he was the one who killed the androids.
>>142498521
I don't think there's a story reason for it. Toriyama and/or the animators thought it looked better, and thus, he has blue hair.
>>142498031
What a qt
I'm guessing she's a christmas cake here since she never got turned into a kid?
>>142498480
You would have to be a fucking idiot to not see the difference between normal blue hair and SSB.
>>142498700
>Trunks used to have Gray/Light Purple
>Now it's SSB
They ruined it
>>142497511
if it killed Z when it was alive, maybe it can revive Super when it´s fucking dead.
Can't wait until Trunks goes back to the past and finds that Krillin and 18 are married and have a child.
>>142497417
Don't get your hopes high. They'll find a way to fuck it up.
>>142498696
she is older than bulma
is future trunks a MILF Hunter?
>>142497511
>>142497725
but the android saga fights were the best
>vegeta vs 19
>17 and 18 killing gero
>vegeta vs 18
>piccolo vs 17
some of my favorite fights in the series
Apologize.
>>142498292
You mean can't wait till the manga version comes out and the conflict is solved in 10 pages and everyone pretends it's GOAT despite being rushed as hell just for the sake of hating on the anime?
>>142499084
trunks is better than GT trunks which makes this already leagues better than GT
it's going to be shit like everything after buu
>>142499084
You're more forced than Milhouse.
The only original thing from super has been beers and whis and they wherent even created by Toriyama but by the screenwritter who wrote BOTG.
Why arent they bringing him over for ideas is beyond me.
>>142499043
> Vegeta vs 19
One-sided beat down.
>17 and 18 killing Gero
That wasn't even a fight.
> Vegeta vs 18
Completely unremarkable in every sense of the word.
> Piccolo vs 17
One of the only two decent fights.
>>142499092
>everyone pretends it's GOAT
We don't have to pretend it just is and I wish it wasn't the case but it is.
>>142497511
>Not liking best Saga
It had the best fights and character development of the series.
>>142497417
>blue hair
did he reach SSJB too?
>>142499176
>but by the screenwritter who wrote BOTG.
He wanted them to be one character, based on the word "Virus," that "infected the Saiyans with evil in the past."
You shut your whore mouth if you think this is better than what they are now.
>>142499208
>It had the best fights and character development of the series.
Both wrong, but still pretty good.
>>142499220
with fucking guidance of tori it would had been fine.
Why? you filthy pleb? well just look at the lame result we have so far. Go brush your ass and your mouth.
>>142499208
>best fights
lolno. Only two decent fights in the entire saga. And Gohan vs Cell isn't one of them.
>best character development
What character development? Vegeta had a last-minute change of heart when Trunks died, but that's about it. And any development Gohan got is nullified by the fact that he was already out of character during his spotlight to begin with.
Or are you one of the retards who think character development = characters getting more powerful?
>>142499362
Future Trunks and Gohan had the best development in that span than anyone else in the same span of time. Vegeta's development was good as well.
Also, Gohan vs. Cell, Goku vs. Cell, Piccolo vs. 17 were all great fights. And The History of Trunks is best DBZ special and/or movie.
>>142499362
bububu gohan was RAGING and SHIT it was so EPIC HURRR
gohan was always a fucking incompetent nerd and him doing anything relating to fighting was always out of place
>>142499444
gohan vs cell wasn't even a fight. gohan doesn't want to fight, then turns ssj2 and stomps cell, then cell comes back and shits all over him. GREAT FIGHT
the only good fights in the cell saga are 17 vs piccolo and goku vs cell. that's it. you're just a buttblasted gohanfag who can't accept that 1) ssj2 gohan's transformation was poorly written and out of character and 2) all his fights were subpar
>>142499084
I'm sorry you watched that piece of garbage
>>142499339
Tori looked at that idea and went, "That is stupid."
Akira "Yamcha is a playboy, really" Toriyama.
Akira "Gohan a shit, have Goku kill Buu" Toriyama.
Akira "Who's Launch? What's a Taopaipai?" Toriyama.
Akira "I make shit up as I go" Toriyama.
If even HE can understand how bad of an idea that is and changes EVERYTHING about those characters, then no. It would not have worked. He changed them for a goddamn reason and the end result is far better than the original shit they were based on. Shut your whore mouth.
>>142499444
>Vegeta's development was good as well.
>retarded asshole during the whole saga
>Trunks dies and suddenly he cares
'good' is not the word you're looking for
>>142499444
What exactly was Future Trunks' development? And again, Gohan was out of character. Any development he was supposed to get is nullified. Vegeta had no development, he had an abrupt change of heart.
Gohan vs Cell was not a good fight. Gohan doesn't even try to fight Cell at first, and when he's an SSJ2, he only throws a 3-4 generic punches and kicks and a Kamehameha. Then Cell comes back and they have a beam struggle.
>>142499084
Why do you keep posting this when the only responses you're getting are varying degrees of "no"?
>>142498321
This has been confirmed false
Apparently Toriyama's original intention was to have Trunks with blue hair like his mom, bulma, and didn't have the balls to tell anyone until now.
>>142498321
considering his hair isn't standing up it's just his mom's hair color.
super is garbage
>>142498031
Jesus Christ you fuckers make up your mind. This is what /a/ asked for.
>>142500523
thanks for stating the obvious
>>142499084
I wonder if they'll ever poke fun at GT during super.
Like glimpse into that universe, say something like "ugh, well we're not going there!" and never mention it again.
>>142501277
While GT is something everyone wants to forget, the things it brought is still considered. I mean, look at the arcade games Dragon Ball Heroes where in it has SS4 Broly, New Super Android 17 (Super Android 17 getting 18 thanks to Towa) SS4 Gohan.
>Trunks can also go Super Saiyan Blue
Toriyama is officially a hack. There's no excusing this shit.
>>142501358
It also had Baby mocking saiyans for flinging poo at him.
That was kinda neat.
>>142499027
>>142498696
That Trunks is from a different timeline. On that timeline, Mai is probably dead anyway. Its not her.
>>142497417
It's the same shit
Dragon Ball GT character, grown Goku (Turles guy), grown Pan (Mai), and blue saiyan Trunks.
>>142501421
>>142501502
You idiots. His hair is blue. He's not SSB.
right so I've seen battle of the gods and resurrection of F
where do I start with Super?
>>142501529
his hair was never blue
>>142501579
There was a lot of confusion with both his and Bulma's hair colors. In the manga, Bulma's is lavender, but in the anime it's blue. Apparently Toriyama wanted Trunks' to be blue from the start.
>>142501609
Present Trunks' hair is still light purple in DBS
>Toriyama in charge of consistency
>>142501557
Do you like a filler-y tournament? If yes, start with Episode 26.
If not, watch >>142498031 to get up to date and then wait for the upcoming Episode 47.
>>142501557
At the Tournament. You've basically seen the rest. Just know Gohan started training again and that may or may not lead somewhere.
>>142497417
>wants to make trunks hair blue
ok...
>leaves kid trunks hair purple
??????
maybe he dyed it
>people unironically praise the Android/Cell saga
It's like the first reply says, it was what killed DBZ. It was the point of no return, where every fight was just shouting and punching. Not a single interesting technique was used, even SSJ2 had barely any change to the designs.
And don't let me start with the bullshit deus ex time chamber and the shitty characters.
>>142501657
>Toei in charge of consistency
ftfy retard
Toriyama wanted Bulma and Trunks to have the same hair color, he always wanted that. Back when he was doing the manga, they both had purple hair. Toei were the ones that fucked it up in the anime. Now that the anime is the primary medium with Super, Toriyama has been trying to adjust by giving Trunks the same blue-green hair that Toei has for Bulma, because he wants them to be the same. That is his primary concern.
Then Toei's goes and fuck it up anyway
>>142501660
alright thanks
>>142497417
I don't see how a new Android Saga would save Super. It's just boring and redundant in the same way Frieza coming back was. Obviously we don't know the specifics, but Trunks coming back after being in trouble yet again is pretty dull. After the hole parallel universe thing opened the gates for all kinds of characters and scenarios, this feels a little lazy. But hey, maybe Piccolo might get a buff. That would be nice.
>>142501660
>filler-y tournament?
Kill yourself
>>142497511
But that's wrong.
>>142499297
>murata illustrated dbz
the worst thing about multiverse theory is that somewhere, this exists
ドラゴンボール超（スーパー）
17年後の未来を襲う最大の危機！「今日こそお前の息の根を止めてやる、サイヤ人よ」殺戮を繰り返しトランクスを追い詰める新たな敵はなんと悟空の姿をしていた！
Source: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/
>The greatest crisis that fell upon 17 years into the future! The new enemy that repeatedly slaughtered [people] and cornered Trunks saying "Today's the day I'll end your life, Saiyajin!" looks just like Goku!
>"Today's the day I'll end your life, Saiyajin!"
>"Today's the day I'll end your life, Saiyajin!"
>"Today's the day I'll end your life, Saiyajin!"
>>142499208
>Dragon Ball Z
>character development
>>142502158
Baby saga was the closest GT got to being good, only undercut by many of the more typical problems of GT in general.
>>142502190
>Dumbass doesn't know what character development is
>>142502125
Toriyama is leagues above Murata in term of action scenes, though.
>>142498031
>until THAT guy came along
>>142501660
15-18 were good too
>>142502300
I'd argue that the potential existed in the Shadow Dragons too, but GT did the GT thing like you said.
Baby is probably the biggest waste of potential in all the Dragon Ball anime, original, Z, Super, and especially GT. Not worst villain, that has to go to Bling Mode Freezie-pop, but Baby had way more potential than Frieza and wasted all of it trying to be Frieza-Buu.
I'd love for Super to take a stab at something like Baby and at least put an attempt to not make him as bad as GT.
>>142501440
It has already been confirmed by Toei that it is Mai.
>>142502333
I wonder how hard voicing original buu's voice was on the VA.
>>142502425
Bet toriyama sneaked in that pacifier for vegeta to poke fun of baby vegeta
>>142501277
I actually wouldn't mind if GT was acknowledged as one of the multiverses.
>>142502353
I don't know anon
>>142502425
>Baby had way more potential than Frieza
>Not worst villain, that has to go to Bling Mode Freezie-pop
Jesus that shit taste
>>142502506
>>142502500
That arc was filler anon
Watching it for Future Trunks since he was one of the characters in the show that actually fucking kills his enemy directly when has a chance and doesn't fuck around like Goku or Vegeta.
Hence him blasting Vegeta for stopping him from taking down Cell who is powering up was great enough.
>people still think the Cell arc was good
- Cyborgs made on Earth are somehow stronger than Freeza
- No creativity in the fights anymore
- Most of the fights are just one-sided beatdowns
- Arc keeps changing who the main villain is
- All of the villains were dull and boring save for Imperfect Cell
- Characters continually act stupid just for the sake of advancing the plot
- Gohan is randomly forced into the spotlight despite doing fuck-all in the arc beforehand
- Gohan acts completely out of character against Cell even before he goes SSJ2
- Worst final fight in the series
Remove the nostalgia goggles.
>>142501664
If this arc is supposed to mirror the original Cell saga then there's a high chance that the climactic battle will be won by Gohan ascending to a new level.
>>142502616
I know. That's why I said sneaked, meaning that was his only contribution.
This has the potential to turn out good. Doubt it though.
>>142498031
>they are gonna kill off Future Bulma
What did he fucking do to deserve this holy shit
Only Z babies who think DB should dark and serious like the Android/Cell saga.
>>142502624
>- Worst final fight in the series
It really is pretty disappointing.
One sided in Cell's favor, then flips to one-sided in Gohan's favor, then just when you think an even fight is about to erupt, beam-o-war and its over.
>>142502616
How is it filler when it's part of the canon?
Really sick of dumbfucks calling Super Water arc filler.
>>142502158
Goku Black referring to Trunks by race as if he himself is not a Saiyan.
Familiar looking earrings if one has played some of the games.
That monstrous form in the preview.
Talking to Trunks as if he has some kinda grudge against him.
Time and space mentioned previously.
At this point If it isn't Demigra, it's one mighty troll by Toriyama.
>>142498031
>still using a sword
why the fuck.
>>142503713
If guns are still effective, why not?
>>142502456
why is she so young looking? GT Mai looked like and old grandma
>>142503727
when you power level is as high as trunks, weapons are pretty useless.
>>142503775
His probably using the sword to infuse his Ki on it.
>>142502624
>Worst final fight in the series
Golden Freeza is the worst.
>>142503934
witch is useless against people with higher ki.
So, how did Trunks end up with purple hair in the first place?
>>142504142
Vegeta has regressive genes, Buruma has dominant. At least regarding hair color.
>>142504142
I guess when moving to color they just kinda winged it on trunks and got purple and toriyama never told anyone
don't really give a shit about his hair being blue but I am glad that his back. Kid Trunks can go away now.
>>142497417
This show needs to stop. Another cliche, cringe worthy, overrated dbs.
>>142503984
>witch
off yourself asap
>>142498031
Didn't Cell snap his sword in half?
>>142504895
I only remember 18's arm shattering some of it.
So far literally every arc has been more disappointing than the last
I can't wait to see how fucking retarded this is going to be
>>142505008
That statement is objectively false.
Champa>BoG>RoF
>>142497511
Yes, and it will save Super. Super is just that bad.
>>142503746
Maybe we'll get some explanation, but since this is Dragon Ball, don't expect on it.
>>142504895
it got better.
>>142497417
>All these hype threads about Future Trunks
I can only see this ending horribly and everybody's expectations being destroyed
This Trunks is way too young to be the battle hardened badass from DBZ future timeline.
It's just an alternate future timeline that has nothing to do with the previous DBZ timeline or the current DBS timeline.
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>>142498446
?
>>142505560
>Gets shit on by base Vegeta
It really might as well not exist.
>>142505428
>The episode is titled "SOS From the Future! A New Black Enemy Reveals Himself!" The episode's plot will start in the future when Earth is free from the Androids' domination. A man named "Black" suddenly appears, and Trunks tries to defend himself. He is no match, even in his Super Saiyan form.
>The anime's official website asks, "Why has Future Trunks returned to the present again after defeating Cell and attaining peace?" and "Who will be the future's new enemy?"
You're right, anon. It's a different Trunks.
>>142498446
I think SSJ's probably been used just as much as SSB has, honestly. It's just really weak.
>>142505606
What does that have to do with anything? A man spends all that time training with gods while they sit around playing all day will do that.
>>142505703
It's a fusion and a super saiyan 3, both of which were said to provide incredible power, but a copy of Vegeta made out of jello stomps them as hard as Beerus stomped SS3 Goku.
>>142505792
So? A copy of Vegeta made out of jello that's as strong as the real Vegeta who's been training with the guy that trained Beerus stomped them. It's really not that farfetched considering how outclassed SSJ3 was by Beerus/SSG/SSB.
>>142505703
It's just powerlevelfags continuing to be retarded like always. If you consider the sheer scope Goku and Vegeta are on now and how it's a completely different level from the regular SSJ forms, even with fusion it's not that weird to think they easily stronger now.
>>142501883
Tori's new artstyle is shit. Goku looks younger than he did during his fight against Piccolo Jr., even though he should be like 30 years older. I get that saiyans age slower, but really? How old must King Vegeta have been to look so old?
>>142499084
>>142505901
I don't really care about powerlevels though.
It's just a bit hard to believe for me that base-form Vegeta (who is still said to be nowhere near Beerus's level) completely outclasses not only a super saiyan 3 but a super saiyan 3 that is a fusion.
>>142506136
Aren't Trunks and Goten like 6 or something?
A fused 6 year old SSJ3 is probably about as strong as Cell arc SSJ2 Gohan.
>>142506136
Base Goku (post SSJGod) did much better against Beerus than Ultimate Gohan. I guess some people were hoping that Super had toned it down (adn were ignoring the end of the battle where Goku stops Beerus' blast in base), but that just seems like wishful thinking.
>>142505341
I for once just want to believe Mira Trunks can save the future of this show. But I doubt it
>>142506302
They are like 12
>>142506692
He already saved his future twice, he can save our future as well.
>>142497417
Why is he so skinny now
Where the fuck is his gains
Did he fucked up and stopped training because he thought it would safe?
>>142497417
>>142498031
sorry but this is retarded
bring the tournament back and stop with with nostalgia shit
>>142503713
Glorious nippon steel, sharper than any Ki beam.
>>142503953
Hard to argue.
When Goku turned Blue there was never any sense of actual threat from Frieza, like he could actually get one over Goku.
Did not help that they had to try to come up with an excuse not to have Buu there, as if acknowledging Buu would just wreck Frieza's army by himself.
The sense of danger is lost even further just by having fucking Beerus there. No matter what he says, having supreme antagonist Frieza drop his fudge at the sight of Beerus, regaining his composure only after Beerus said he wouldn't interfere does not a credible villain make.
The sudden shock of Goku being cheap shotted is quickly lost when Vegeta steps in and very quickly takes over Goku ' s role in stomping Frieza.
The shock destruction of Earth was reversed within minutes.
There was never a feeling that anything was at stake.
>>142499519
Pretty much, Dragonball always had shit writing, the only reason you are not enjoying Super is because you are no longer 10.
>>142506754
original future trunks is...problematic
>>142497417
I bet the 1st and the 2nd episode's animation will be perfect, than the rest will be shit as always.
>GT is bad because Super 17 arc, rehashes, and Goku Time
>I can't wait until Trunks comes back with the same kind of storyline he did last time, Goku Black, and more Goku and Vegeta focus.
Superfriends infuriate me.
>>142506754
old chardesign was a fuckton better
>>142503984
>useless against people with higher ki
So are punches and kicks, retard. If person A has a higher output of ki than person B, then person B will not do any significant damage using ki on person A no matter what they do.
Sword > Punches/Kicks
Instead of super they should just go off into a totally different show focused on future trunks that isn't constrained by the original show.
>>142507299
>super 17
>super version of an android
Next
>>142498031
Future Bulma is totally gonna die isn't she?
>>142507700
Yes
>>142502158
I swear the god it better be Demigra being smart and trying to kill trunks early, or some sort of demon realm character. IT better not be some
>LOL TUFFLES
tier weapon
>>142497417
>The biggest crisis hits the future after 17 years! "Today I'll choke the life out of you, Saiyan!" A new enemy that slaughtered people and drove Trunks to a corner had Goku's form!
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/
Daily reminder that Mirai Torankusu is pushing 40.
>>142507387
So you want a show about time patrol? Might be neat I guess.
>>142507700
I hope not. I want her to catch up with Goku.
>"Son kun..."
My heart
>>142507744
S-surely he would find some dragon balls to revive his mom!
>>142507895
>12 episode series about Trunks in the Time Patrol
>BDs come with a 6 episode special about Taino's quest to form the Taino Force
>>142497417
When will they ditch the original cast and start developing a new generation?
Go full Yugioh with different characters and gimmicks.
>>142507894
Shouldn't be he 34-35 something?
>>142507971
I'd rather have a 6 episode special about the mainline future like in DBO's backstory anon.
>>142508031
No. Most likely around same age as before.
>>142508017
>Goku opens a school
>he calls it the a-ki-damy
>three houses in ascending order: Majin Pink, Namek Green and Saiyan yellow
>he gets his game on
>>142505703
>>142505901
It's more so to the point where characters that aren't Goku and/or Vegeta are entirely uselessly now, and this further cements that everyone will be doing either fucking nothing, or getting slapped around by the new enemy (you know, just like in GT)
It also brings up the question of why have Gotenks show up if the point is that he's just going to get beaten up in a few moments. You can't even call it a fun call back at this point. It'd be like if Launch showed up and got killed almost immediately.
Also, why the fuck did you have a filler episode with Goten and Trunks just so you could make it another Goku and Vegeta battle? Would it really have been too much to ask for a fight scene WITHOUT Goku and Vegeta?
This is the same shit GT did! Only Goku (and now Vegeta get to do anything) It's getting tiresome. Future Trunks is one of my favorite characters, but I'm honestly doubting he's going to get to do much.
>>142508145
How do you interpret '17 years tin the future" to equal same age as he was when he fought Cell? Someone said this in another thread but I wasn't able to reply before the thread got archived.
I refuse to watch this because his hair is blue.
>>142499220
>He wanted them to be one character, based on the word "Virus," that "infected the Saiyans with evil in the past."
I don't know why not. It sounds like shit, but it's not like they're above watering down the history of the Saiyans with bullshit like Bardock being a time traveler, or Gine.
>>142507700
It's his fate to suffer. so Yes.
>future Trunks can only go SSJ1
He'll be useless as fuck.
>>142498696
>I'm guessing she's a christmas cake here since she never got turned into a kid?
Biologically? No.
The Pilaf Gang made the wish before the Androids appeared.
Here is how we know this: The Pilaf Gang was surprised that the Dragon could do more than one wish, indicating they made it before Shenlong was upgraded.
>>142501440
Incorrect. It is already confirmed by Toei that person is Mai.
>>142503746
The same reason the Pilaf Gang is young again in the main timeline: before the androids appeared they made a wish to be turned young.
It makes sense because it would explain why they don't know Shenron can grant more than one wish during Ressurection of F. They made the wish before the androids appeared.
>>142508246
Wasn't it 17 years after the androids first appeared? In future trunks timeline, he was born into the android chaos. However, in the main timeline, the androids and cell were defeated in like a month right? It was 7 years of peace after cell, and now kid trunks is how old?
Pretty sure, black starts shortly after cell was defeated in future trunks timeline. So Trunks in my mind is like around 20s. Maybe 28. But yeah, I guess that isn't the same age.
>>142508285
See you next week
>>142508236
This was almost always the case though. The only exceptions were Gohan vs. Cell and Yajirobe/Krillin/Gohan vs. Vegeta, but otherwise, the series has always been about Goku, with other characters either jobbing, or taking care of mooks, or just stalling until Goku is ready.
>>142507894
>The biggest crisis hits the future after 17 years!
Reading with comprehension fail, anon.
The androids appeared around the same time Trunks was born.
He's between 17-19 If you count rosat.
>>142509379
So Black showed up right after Trunks got back, that's fucked. Why would Trunks take a one-way trip to a time a decade ahead of the Cell saga? You could say he's assuming the Z-fighters will be stronger but for all he knows they could be dead. At least he knew for sure the cast just after Cell was still alive.
>>142502624
>>142506136
People need to stop thinking that forms matter.
SSJ is just a burst of power that doesn't matter when your base level is so fucking high.
>>142509815
>Why would Trunks take a one-way trip to a time a decade ahead of the Cell saga?
Why not? It's a few years before Black appears.
Makes perfect sense to me.
How is that gonna save anything?
>Designs are still shit
>Animation is still shit
>Music is still shit
>Storyboards are still shit
>Direction is still shit
>Art Direction is still shit
>>142509815
>Why would Trunks take a one-way trip to a time a decade ahead of the Cell saga?
Because he assumes that they'll be able to make him strong enough to fight Black.
>>142498696
its mai jr her kid
>>142510164
Ur shit
>>142510164
>Designs are still shit
Future Trunks and Mai look cool in the new artwork. So does the time machine and Bulma's lab.
>Music is still shit
It's painfully mediocre. NEP music was ok, though.
>Animation is still shit
>Storyboards are still shit
>Direction is still shit
>Art Direction is still shit
We don't know that yet, NEP looks promising.
![Dragon Ball Super - 031 - To Zuno-sama! Ask the Whereabouts of the Super Dragon Balls! [DragonTeam][87795B6B].mkv_snapshot_16.27_[2016.06.06_10.27.05].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Sl4tMqU.jpg "Dragon Ball Super - 031 - To Zuno-sama! Ask the Whereabouts of the Super Dragon Balls! [DragonTeam][87795B6B].mkv_snapshot_16.27_[2016.06.06_10.27.05].jpg")
I'm just catching up on the series now and the Champa arc is actually really fun, feels like classic Toriyama. Why did people tell me it was shit?
>>142510611
Is there a reason why Jaco is still with the present group?
>>142510252
No, it isn't.
Already confirmed to be Mai herself by Toei, not another person.
In Ressurection of F it was established the Pilaf Gang didn't know Shenron could do more than one wish, proving they made the wish before the Androids appeared. In short, the Pilaf Gang made the wish to become young again before the Androids appeared in both timelines, this is why she is young in FT timeline too.
>>142510834
But then why are they still so young in the original timeline?
>>142510787
He's looking out for Bulma since he wants to fuck Tights.
>>142510963
Same reason Trunks and Goten still look like their Buu Saga selves even though they should be from 3 to 5 years older by now.
>>142510164
They actually seem to be trying to diferentiate the color direction and background design of Future Trunks' world from the normal one. Let's just hope all that won't disappear when he gets to the present.
>>142507894
The "Saiyan" part is kind of interesting, since it implies another Baby-like situation. I guess whoever Black is, he isn't just some evil alternate Goku. Either he's possessing his body or just taking his form.
>>142511156
There's a big difference between the 3-5 years for Goten and Trunks and the like 10 years it should have been for Pilaf's gang if their wish was before the androids (3 years of training for the androids + 7 years after the cell games)
>>142503713
It makes his fighting style more unique, why are you complaining? Obviously he mixes it with ki or whatever, otherwise it wouldn't cut Freeza.
>>142504895
It was damaged by 18. But it's a new sword anyway. The design is different.
>>142510963
Goten and Trunks still look just as they looked in DBZ. They are older, but Super decided to depict them as if they hadn't changed much. It is the same reason for the Pilaf Gang.
>>142511332
If the wish really happened before the androids, then they probably were reduced to babies or 1-2 years old infants before slowly growing up again.
>>142511474
How the hell did they manage to grow up from the age of 1-2? Did they have moms on standby when they made the wish?
>>142511332
>There's a big difference between the 3-5 years for Goten and Trunks and the like 10 years it should have been for Pilaf's gang if their wish was before the androids (3 years of training for the androids + 7 years after the cell games)
The Pilaf Gang must be close the same age as Trunks, actually.
Trunks was born before the Androids appeared. They must have made the wish near the same time Trunks was born, which means it makes sense why the Pilaf Gang and Trunks are all portrayed similarly in Super. It is to show they have around the same age biologically.
>>142506302
Read the Buu saga you dumb shit.
>>142511586
Someone probably found them and took care of them for a while before they left. The Dragon Balls can attract quite the attention.
>yfw it was Launch
Let me kill some rumors:
His hair is naturally blue like it was always intended and he isn't powered up.
Android Saga was the worst thing in all of DBZ objectively, although Perfect Cell was the best objectively.
Super is bad but still better than GT so far and hopefully they save it but no one really knows.
>>142497417
Why is his hair blue?
This continuity stuff really doesn't exist with Toei does it?
I finally decided to go back and watch GT recently thanks to all the "Apologize now." posts and shit, and my god.
The opening arc was an interesting journey I guess, but the characters were infuriating. Baby arc was okay but the climax was horseshit, SSj4 was jobbing right after he got it. Super 17 was just the Janemba movie with Android 17 and holy fuck. The Shadow Dragons.
I've heard people say The Shadow Dragons arc is really good and the best part of GT, but goddamn. Half of the Shenrons are fucking stupid, like Botamo stupid. Mole Shenron? Super Saiyan 4 Goku literally putting the earth back in place after Mole Shenron's wacky antics? Not to mention the characters don't even seem to be moving in the fights half the time and the artstyle is ugly as sin. The final fight against Omega was.. okay. Watching Gogeta play around was pretty stupid though.
Like Super has been meh don't get me wrong.. but people REALLY claim this is better? They are just as bad as each other, goddamn.
Yeah so 17 years from future means Trunks is now 28-29. He was 22-23 when he beat cell, so black appears 6 years after cell died.
I want to see how bulma responds to seeing Goku damnit. Future bulma doesn't really know vegeta all that well besides the one night stand.
>>142512180
>Like Super has been meh don't get me wrong.. but people REALLY claim this is better? They are just as bad as each other, goddamn.
For what other reason do you think most replies to those "Apologize" posts are different degrees or variations of "No"?
>>142512180
Don't believe /a/'s lies. Never believe /a/'s lies.
>>142513172
>>142513172
Someone needs to edit Bojack's face onto Pan's there.
>>142513172
>>142513373
And this is really why /a/ claims GT is better.
>>142513480
Both GT and Super are disappointments, but at least GT bothered to give me something fappable.And a pretty cool Super Saiyan form.
>>142513566
Super Saiyan 4 is honestly my favorite form. Fuck the Superfriends. They can whine about eyeliner, magic pants and clothes teleportation and the form mostly jobbing since it's debut, but that doesn't even matter.
It looks fucking mad and FEELS powerful and like a natural evolutioin of the super saiyan forms. much better then SSG (hurr im red) or SSB (hurr im blue) forms
>https://youtu.be/1ueb4aJTw3Y
Man, they did that tone shift good. Fuck i am falling for the see you next meme
>>142499027
well earth has to be repopulated somehow
>>142513566
You have shit taste and you only further prove my point.
![Dragon Ball Super - 036 - An Unexpected Struggle! Vegeta's Explosion of Anger! [DragonTeam][8BC30E8E].mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2016.06.05_22.18.20].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0bbPm3s.jpg "Dragon Ball Super - 036 - An Unexpected Struggle! Vegeta's Explosion of Anger! [DragonTeam][8BC30E8E].mkv_snapshot_13.01_[2016.06.05_22.18.20].jpg")
Beerus alone makes Super far better than GT. Then you consider Whis, Vados, Champa, Jaco, etc. and there's really no contest.
GT characters are shit, both the new ones and returning ones - especially Goku. Forcing him to be a kid again was a far worse character defilement than anything in Super. Pan is an annoying brat, Trunks is incredibly bland, characters like Buu and Piccolo are given shitty fates for no reason. GT has nothing going for it.
>>142513793
I feel the same way. Honestly, people can say "Well this is just the Goku and Vegeta show so its just as bad as GT being the Goku show!!" all they want, but even if they are useless the rest of the cast are at least a lot of fun in Super.
Nothing will be better then Uncle Piccolo.
>>142508017
Xenoverse/Heroes adaptation.
New group consisting of a character of each race being mentored by Trunks and Time Kai. Travelling across Dragonball history to stop the Time Breakers from screwing history up.
>>142513719
I don't care about your opinion about my opinion or whatever point you were trying to prove.
is he supposed to be the actual future trunks we know and care about or is he just grown up current trunks living in a world where somehow everybody died?
cause if he's future trunks, how the hell is mai the same age as he is
>>142506136
Base Vegeta is rocking God Ki, it puts him into a whole new level of power compared to anything from the original manga.
What this does confirm is that the fighters of U6 aren't as weak as people said they were. Goku and Vegeta went SSJ against Frost, meaning Frost is for sure stronger then SSJ3 Gotenks. Vegeta had to go SSJ against Magetta and Cabba did pretty well against Vegeta in Base.
U6 Fighters were on average much stronger then the U7 Fighters, but U7 had Goku and Vegeta.
>>142514315
Pilaf made the wish during the 3 years of training before the androids attacked. The ages would match up.
>>142514211
You have shit taste. That's what I'm saying. And you prove my point that GTfags have shit taste in general.
Reminder that the only people that like the android saga were Gohanfags who self inserted when they were younger and used the excuse that they didn't want to hurt anybody whenever they were bullied and they were told to fight back
The buu saga had objectively the best and most character development for any of you gohanfags claiming "muh character development"
>>142514528
How am I a "GTfag", though? I never said I liked GT, in fact I said quite the opposite.
Please, explain it to me in detail.
>>142514683
I'm sayingyou're waifu a shit.
>>142514534
I liked that arc for Cell.
>>142514315
It's been posted repeatedly in this thread alone that it's the same Trunks.
>>142514528
Not him, but Super comedy is too childish. The jokes with Beerus, Vegeta and Goku are always the same. Beerus is just too prideful to admit his errors, Vegeta is Bulma's bitchboy, Vegeta is Beerus' bitchboy, Vegeta is tsundere for Goku, Goku is a retard.
I prefer GT's Vegeta, at least in there his dynamic with Bulma was more interesting, Toei didn't recycle the jokes and there was balance with comedy and Vegeta's tsundere personality. And if you want to say something about his mostache, they got rip of it.
>>142514534
Stop self inselting. People liked android saga for Trunks and the edginess of it.
>>142514332
Look, Toriyama's apologists.
>>142515097
I'm not saying anything about that. I'm saying GTshittershave shit taste in waifus.
>>142514859
Just because I occasionally fap to Pan doesn't mean she's my waifu.
My heart lies somewhere else.
>>142498031
This looks like it was made in the early 2000s
>>142511849
>Super is bad but still better than GT
>>142515294
But there are better girls to fap to.
And you still go with Pan.
You shit.
can someone explain this
>>142515203
Girls in GT>>>>>>>Girls in Super
And for the records my waifu is a cutie girl with green hair.
>>142515457
It's a videogame. Dragon Ball Fusions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTstud1EE18
>>142515422
Pan is but one of many. I can fap to more than one girl.
>>142515549
You keep compounding your shit taste.
>>142515457
>>142515521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAWYiW3w04
>>142515484
Objectively wrong.
>>142515484
>girls in GT
>old and ugly looking Bulma, Chichi, Videl, 18
>annoying shit Pan and Bra
>can't even remember anyone else
>girls in Super
>hot youthful looking Bulma, Chichi, Videl, 18
>cute baby Pan
>femdom goddess Vados
>Tights
Super wins yet again
>>142515383
I didn't think it was until I rewatched GT, but it's far worse. Animation wise, it's never as bad as Super's worst, but it barely looks like the characters are even in motion half the time, not to mention there's just as much QUALITY, it's just disguised by an already ugly art style. The villains aren't much better. Baby is the only decent one. Android 17 is terrible and most of the Shenrons are just as wacky as Super stuff.
GT definitely had better music, though.
>>142497417
Dragon Ball is dead.
>>142515705
GT Chi Chi>>>>>>>>>>> Chi Chi in Super
GT Videl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Videl in Super
GT Bulma>Bulma in Super
Pan in Super>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT Pan
GT 18>18 in Super
Bra doesn't exist in Super.
>>142515727
>GT definitely had better music, though.
That's the truth. Dan Dan especially is one of the few redeeming qualities of GT.
>>142515832
Chi-chi is an old hag in GT.
Videl you have a point on.
Bulma is far better looking in Super, sagging tits or not.
I hate 18's haircut in GT, it's awful.
Bra a shit in GT anyway so it's a moot point.
