Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>140825862
Make サクラちゃん proud...
>>140868029
What is 一日 doing there exactly?
>>140869145
It's an unconjugated triple negative form of the archaic 壱日の頑張ゑます
>>140867700
This gives me hope against 出来ないちゃん
From the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar Anki deck:
>日本語はよく難しい言語だと言われる。文法が複雑だし、漢字を覚えるのも大変だ。だからと言って、外国人が学べないわけではない。
Feels good, man.
So I haven't been in these threads in a long time. Why are there two of them?
>>140870257
OP posted this one before the previous thread was dead so that he could use the bait image he used in the OP
>>140869145
it's like "the whole day" in "i'ma work my fuckin' ass off the whole god damn day today"
Ow my head hurts. Fuck you, adverbs you all look the fucking same to me.
I have just learned 知る is an exception for the continuous tense (-ている), in the sense that it is not like English.
Can DJT tell me whether these conjugations are ok, then?
彼の名前は知っているのか？
はい、知っている。
Also, what happens if I say
このを知る。
?
Is this something like "I am learning about it at the moment"?
Also, another exception are motion verbs, in which the continuous imply conclusion of the motion.
So what is the best way to say "I'm (currently) going there"?
あそこに行った？
あそこへ行った？
Maybe adding a "もう" to remove ambiguity and emphasize the action is not in the past, but rather happening?
>>140870290
Who fucking cares you sperg.
>>140869145
It functions the same as the いちにち・一日 in the following
昨日は一日で本を五百ページ読んだ。
Yesterday I read 500 pages in a day.
Yesterday (昨日は) I read (読んだ) 500 pages (五百ページ) in a day (一日).
To reference the shitty meme
今日も一日がんばるぞい！
Even today/also today (今日も) I will try my best (がんばる) for the whole day/throughout the day (一日).
One step closer to Gensoukyou.
>>140870484
That's racist, anon.
Any adverbs in particular which are screwing with your head?
>>140870507
>彼の名前は知っているのか？
>はい、知っている。
looks fine to me
think about 知る like this:
知る is a verb meaning to learn / find out about something
いる just means to be
so 知っている literally means "to have learned (about) something and be [in the state of having learned (about) that thing]" which effectively means "to know" (which is why it's usually translated that way)
>このを知る
この is the adjective form of "this" (as in "this book"). you want これ, the noun (as in "i want this").
>motion verbs, in which the continuous imply conclusion of the motion
it's not always useful to think of -いる as the continuous tense. sometimes it is but sometimes it just means "to be" after having done another action. so 行っている can imply conclusion of motion because it's just "to go and (then, after you get where you're going) be"
It only gets worse doesn't it? Am I retarded? I think I might be.I still need to learn katakana
>>140871175
GO BIG OR GO SUDOKU
>>140871430
いつも, どちら, どれ, もっと, and もらう.
though looking through them, they're not all adverbs, a few verbs and nouns too. も throws me off though. Either way, they're giving me a hard time.
>>140871582
Did you just click "good" on all of them
>>140871562
set minimum lapse interval to two days
>>140871470
Thanks anon (different anon).
I've been using Tae Kim's guide for grammar but are kind of struggling coming to terms with his explanations, but your post made it a lot easier to understand.
How long have you been studying and what did you use for your basic grammar study?
>>140871582
That looks like RSI in progress.
>>140871562
What exactly are you reviewing to have such a low retention rate? No offence but that is really low.
>>140871470
Well, thanks, but that doesn't answer anything.
>>140871067
good explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBhNd1AQ9P4
(except for >>140871562)
>>140867700
What are you guys currently reading/watching?
Anyone have any idea roughly how many words are in the DoJG deck in the CoR? I've been adding words I haven't come across in Core yet and so far the Intermediate volume is giving like 6 unknown words every concept.
>>140871696
i started like 3.5 years but haven't really used my nihongo skills in like 1.5. i used tae kim in the beginning and dojg for stuff i found while reading that he didn't cover.
>>140872570
why are you using dojg as a sentence deck
>>140872059
/DJT/
>>140871067
I see, but in the first sentence isn't で doing the job of indicating that the action occurred in that time? There is no で in the second sentence, 一日 is just kind of dropped there out of nowhere.
I'm studying Core 2k+6k because the Cornucopia tricked me.
It's too late to stop now, so is there an easy way to add the remaining 4k cards from the Core 10k to the back of the 6k list? Has anyone done it before?
>>140872710
>so is there an easy way to add the remaining 4k cards from the Core 10k to the back of the 6k list?
Yeah: Mine them instead of taking them from core 10k.
>>140872570
I remember a while ago Cor-kun somehow came up with a figure of about 10,000 words and 1900 and something kanji for all three books, but I don't know how accurate it is.
>>140872597
What makes you think that? Maybe anon just wants to learn the words he doesn't know.
>>140872656
で when it performs that function can be dropped when it is for contextually obvious things in more colloquial usages.
>>140872742
Why not use a resource which is already available?
>>140872837
Because it's not worth the time of using it as opposed to something as simple as making something up as you go.
>>140872791
So I could remove で from the first sentence and it wouldn't affect it at all?
>>140872710
You can format your fields so the core10k deck matches the Core2k/6k deck, export the Core10k deck to notes and then import the core10k.txt file into your Core2k/6k deck. If you set it so it ignores cards for when the field first matches (provided the field is unique, so maybe make the vocabulary field with kanji your first field) so when it imports the notes exported Core10k deck into your Core2k/6k deck, it will only add the cards not in your Core2k/6k deck.
If you have any associated media with the Core10k deck, just dump the files directly into your profile collection.media folder and the cards will use them, no issue.
>>140872887
>Because it's not worth the time of using it
So instead doing something which takes vastly more time and maintenance? I'm lost here.
>>140872923
Look up the entry for で in the Intermediate volume of the A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar series. It explains it properly and clearly.
>>140872923
the difference is you wouldnt be saying で
do you know what it means to actually say で
>>140873071
>So instead doing something which takes vastly more time and maintenance? I'm lost here.
Yeah actually. I guarantee you will become more fluent/literate more quickly if you mine instead of doing 10k's 4k.
>>140873139
Your guarantee is boring conjecture. For the same reason why Core2k is optimal for rapid learning, so is Core6k and Core10k.
>>140872742
That won't add the exact 4k missing cards present in the Core Deck, silly anon.
>>140873071
Holy crap, that all sounds like rocket science, I'll save it in a notepad for later analysis, I'm currently too full of wapanese grammar in my head. Thank you, anon.
>>140873247
>Holy crap, that all sounds like rocket science
It takes about two minutes to do. I can put together an instructional image if you are a more visual learner.
>>140873225
Reality is boring conjecture too. Would you rather do random stuff or use your head?
>>140873225
your posting is boring conjecture
>>140873326
Your position is pure conjecture.
Our understanding of reality is determined by empiricism and the scientific method.
Either way, you are serving no use in this thread as anon clearly doesn't care for your opinion on the matter.
>>140873390
>Our understanding of reality is determined by empiricism and the scientific method.
What do you mean "our"? I can't even accept thought itself until I undergo a leap of induction, anon. Senses have to come from somewhere.
>>140873390
自閉症全開
>>140873424
>What do you mean "our"?
I mean humanity.
You know, the thing which has created the machine you are using with these basic principals. Go shit up the other autistic thread if you have nothing on topic to offer. This dialogue is now over. Feel free to continue, others may appreciate your soliloquy.
>>140873487
Rationality is autism, war is peace, love it hate, shitposting is shitposting.
>>140873313
It's more to do with the fact that I haven't fiddled with ANKI's edit capabilities before, I just shoved the deck in there and studied. This would be my first adventure into actually using the deck browser and whatnot.
If you can make an image, yes, that'd be yokoso. I just intend migrating cards and sounds, images didn't work back then and nowadays I'm glad they didn't, they are pretty shitty.
>>140873528
>I mean humanity.
>You know, the thing which has created the machine you are using with these basic principals.
I don't know anything about that, anon.
>Go shit up the other autistic thread if you have nothing on topic to offer.
What do you think you're doing? You're the one that started talking about conjecture. Your existence itself is conjecture. Nobody here knows that you exist.
>>140873536
Give me a few minutes and I'll post it.
It is one of those things you do once or twice then you know it like the back of your foreskin.
ok guys if anyone wants to talk non autistically ill be in the officially sanctioned djt thread lates
>>140873536
>>140873587
Righto, here you go.
I've got to take off so if you have any trouble, maybe someone else can give you a hand. I'll end up checking the archive and might be able to reply in the next thread.
>>140874560
Great, anon!
That might discard some potential new entries that look like duplicates (there are several 上がる cards in the Core6k, for instance, with different meanings), but I'm more concerned about covering jouyou kanji than getting several definitions of the same words, and those will pass the check.
Thank you.
>>140874560
Well shit, you're awesome.
I was wanting to do the same thing as well and it worked perfectly.
If every thread was this useful, I'd come here more often.
>>140872059
Caught up on the latest volume of よつばと！ yesterday. Got emotional near the end of it, all the talk about growing up and going to school soon was like invisible hand of time inching forward to one day snatch よつば away from being an adorable little kid.
The "battle" scene near the end was fucking hilarious, though.
>>140872031
This is a great one anon. Will definitely use the hour version whenever it's rep time.
>>140875038
怪しい
>>140875038
Read that a while ago and had some serious dekinai moments with the grandma and her talking style.
>>140875386
>>140875038
I just started reading it a while ago. I should probably go study grammar though, I don't even have half of Tae Kim. That being said I'm understanding more than I expected.
>>140875556
Imagery can help a fair bit at times.
>>140875628
Apparently I have vocab to understand most of the words, I'm just weak on grammar so when they do some voodoo with conjugation or something then I'm lost, but since I do know the word I can take a guess.
>>140875713
I'd suggest reading through the rest of Tae Kim over the next week or two then start the DoJG deck. It will help immensely with those things.
>>140874877
All 4000 of them, anon?
>>140875789
I was planning on doing that after I reached the 1000 word mark on vocab, so I still have a couple more weeks to go.
>>140876098
Godspeed anon.
>>140874560
Man, you're really bad at hiding your identity, dude.
>>140876236
does it matter though if he does
just be happy hes trying hard even i can respect that
>>140876277
yeah he's trying really hard to justify his existence
>>140876098
Good luck. I started after finishing 2k. I'm over 3k and there are still a couple of kanjis I haven't seen before, but I'm already able to read the lessons with no problem.
What do you guys think of my deck?
Is there a way to make the white image background transparent and the text white?
>>140869145
For some reason this meaning isn't listed in edict, but 一日 can also mean "all day long".
>Today as well, I'll do my best all day!
Can someone help me translate this sentence?
Big sentences kinda scare me and I'm not confident if I'm getting it right or not:
> 実は本誌が初めて２０ページ漫画制作で、漫画作業の大変さの色々痛感しておりましたが、
こういった形でなんとかまとめることができてホツとしています。
Breaking down:
> 実は本誌が初めて２０ページ漫画制作で、
"Actually this magazine was supposed/planned to have 20 pages,"
> 漫画作業の大変さの色々痛感しておりましたが、
"I was keenly aware the work had various issues/problems"
- shite~orimasu puts this sentence in the "will happen" time, right? I can't understand how it would go "I would be made aware of the various issues with the work"?
> こういった形でなんとかまとめることができてホッ
としています。
"I was relieved I managed to settle/order things up somehow"
(why do they write some parts in katakana? just to confuse noobs? -_-)
>>140876352
you forgot this one, it shows part of his mobile device
>>140876511
where do you see "supposed/planned" or "issues/problems"?
don't add words that aren't there
>>140876511
これも怪しい
>>140876647
せやろか工藤
>>140876738
バーロー…
>>140876628
Hum, I conjectured that from
> 初めて２０ページ
> First was 20 pages
> 制作
> At production
But yeah, planned came out of nowhere.
Issues/problems aren't from this?
>大変さの色々
...I'm getting confused
>>140876236
What are you talking about?
>>140876352
>>140876615
What exactly is the point of posting this? It clearly isn't your deck, what are you doing? Is the other thread dying and you've decided to come and shit up this one? I don't get it.
>>140876849
You went to the lengths of making a new anki profile but didn't revert your windows themeing settings. Stay off the darknet, if you ever end up there you'll just get caught.
>>140876910
What are you trying to insinuate?
>>140876908
Huh??? What do you mean it's not my deck? I like, made it.
>>140876950
Why shitpost?
>>140876738
>>140876797
あのアニメ見たことないんだもん
>>140876908
>>140876910
>>140876947
>>140876950
DECK FIGHT！
>>140876982
What?
By the way can someone help me with a CSS problem? I'm retarded and can't read the internet
>thread going well
>other thread dying on it's ass
>retards decide to come here and try to drag it down
This is why we can't have nice things.
>>140877039
What? All I see is an anon posting anki screenshots. What's the problem? Is there something hidden in them?
>>140877039
drag it down into what dude just up your post game instead of crying like a b*tch
Does someone have a screenshot on how to set up the example sentence add on? I tried but I'm too stupid.
>>140877118
Where'd it go wrong? It'll be easier for me to troubleshoot with you over text.
heres a video of me deciding which djt thread to post in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMormj8w7HM
>>140876511
>>140876837
Wow, I think I see what I fucked up...
> 実は本誌が初めて２０ページ漫画制作で
"Actually during/at the development of the first 20 pages"
> 漫画作業の大変さの色々痛感しておりましたが、
"I got aware of the vast amount/difficulty of work" (? unsure)
> こういった形でなんとかまとめることができてホッとしています。
"I was relieved I managed to settle/order things up somehow"
Right/Wrong?
>>140877071
無知は幸せ
>>140877192
君に幸あれ
>>140877181
first section is still very wrong
look up 初めて and realize that it's not the same as 初め
second and third are clumsy translations (enough with the damn slashes) but I think you get the meaning
>>140877144
>How to use/install: Please make sure you have a field called "Expression", and a field called "Examples"
Added "Examples"
>(this is the field the add-on will fill with its data; you can change these in the header of the python field). You can add fields by going to Add->Fields. Don't forget to actually make this field show up on your cards by adding it to your card template (i.e. something like "{{Examples}}" on the back template)
Added it to my back template
>Aside from that, you need to make sure to have "example_sentences" in your model name. To rename your note type, go to Add -> Click on "your_current_note_name" -> Manage -> Rename.
Renamed my deck to "example_sentences". After this I restarted Anki but it didn't work. I don't know where I made a mistake. Thanks tripfag anon
>>140876352
音読みの所の「久遠」の読みは「くおん」の方がよりpopularだよ。
>>140877478
ぽぷらぁ？
>>140877610
「くどう・くどお」と読まない（読めない）わけではないけどほとんどの人は「くおん」と読むと思う。
>>140877447
What does your "Expression" field look like?
So I've gotten tired of VNs and manga and stuff. What else can I read? Other than nhk news or 2ch
>>140877902
You pretty much covered everything. What else would you even read in english?
>>140877963
Maybe a coolblogor an interesting website
>>140877757
きゅうえん「」
>>140877757
どうしても久遠をよめっていわれたら
「くどう」って読むんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
>>140877902
Books. Like literature or some
>>140867700
なんで二つのスレがある？
>>140878007
Nico comments maybe?
Or make some friends on LINE or something?
You can use japan-guide.com for that, although it never seems to go anywhere for me, even when I had someone sound super excited that we had a shared interest and say like 3 times that he was looking forward to talking about it with me. Messaged him once and never got a reply.
Actually, I might try contacting that nigger again.
>>140878174
OP is a fag
Literally the reason
>>140877888
I changed a bit in my Core deck if this is somehow important.
This field?
>>140878174
OP is a ban evading spammer who posts this thread to troll. People who care about that went to the other thread. People who don't care stayed here i guess.
>>140878210
Both sides of the controversy are complete faggots.
>>140878201
I have someone I talk to on line and skype with everyday fortunately. But I just wanna read something interesting. I'm completely fine with conversational tier stuff so I don't really learn anything. Maybe I'll open a wikipedia page on something or google some random stuff.
>>140878213
Yeah. Judging by the instructions, the addon seems to look at the Expression field to figure out what word to make an example sentence for. So the Expression field has to contain a copy of the word, even if you're not directly using the Expression field.
>>140878283
I changed the names. Now the Expression field has the Kanji. Still not working doe
>>140878392
Try adding a new card by hand. See if it adds an example sentence that way. If it doesn't, something's wrong on a different level. If it does, that means you have to do bulk writing:
>Offers a bulk-add option to permanently write examples to the destination field. Writes 5 sentences by default. Especially useful for mobile users. To use this option, go to "Browse -> Edit -> Bulk-add Examples"
>>140878470
Not working.
Is there no detailed guide or something?
>>140878013
>>140878056
仏教からの言葉だからなあ。読めなくても仕方が無いね。>「くおん」
>>140878618
Nope. You'll have to ask the dev on github. Maybe an anki update broke it.
>>140878649
ok thanks
>>140877439
I got it now, thank you.
For some reason big sentences kinda confuses me, too many words/joints to do. Posting results.
>>140878911
i dont wanna tell you to stop doing what youre doing because im sure you can tell me that the time youve spent smacking your head against the wall hasnt been entirely worthless and youve learned a lot im sure
just maybe mix up some of the stuff youre doing outside of trying to translate or whatever so you can become better faster
remember its not just nihongo skill but eigo skill aso
君の船に対してあかりちゃんの飛行機を打付けさせるの？
>>140877447
Rename note type not deck.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56601137
I'm drawing a total blank on what should be easy dialogue on this first page.
The whole "でも絶対じゃないしダメなんだ" part, I just don't get it. 絶対じゃないし in particular. "Not totally opposed"? But then why is it followed up with ダメ?
What Japanese podcasts or youtube channels do you recommend? (not Japanese learning just by Japanese people)
>>140881922
HikakinTV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Cgwp2c_nU
>>140881525
its a safe day but im not really feelin it し so fuck = ダメおｋ
>>140881994
Why is he always so annyoing
>>140882218
Pure gibberish, great.
I knew you were in this thread, and I posted anyway, so I guess it's my own fault for expecting some help from someone who isn't a complete fucking retard.
When are you going to get rangebanned already? You've never once contributed to the thread in any way.
>>140882764
youre actually foolish if you dont understand thats exactly what it says
blinded by hate
>>140882798
Let's pretend that you actually think that's a real translation, and that you thought you made a post that explained anything.
It didn't. You've offered absolutely nothing aside from giving me a nice little (you) and wasting 20 seconds of my time as I try and decipher the absolute gibberish you wrote as an "explanation".
You aren't helping anyone. Nobody is assisted by your clueless posts. You could be a fucking Japanese master, but your complete inability to type basic English makes your posts solely detrimental.
妊娠検査薬
>>140881525
「安全日でも絶対じゃないしダメなんだからね？」
>>140882910
you didnt even paste the entire single line you wanted help with
who cares be rude then throw all kinda shade it doesnt mean shit to me dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKJ-gQt4kgo
What's a good easy program to view manga on PC? Bonus points if it tracks the progress and such
なぁ、なんってなんなん?
>>140883631
feh
how do tell difference between つ and っ？
>>140884301
one big one small
>>140884311
yes but when you're reading somewhere and you first encounter only one of them and don't have the other one to compare sizes
>>140884340
then u compare it to the other symbols in the sentence
>>140884301
Usually it's easy enough to tell just by looking at it. If it's sloppy handwriting or something then context I guess.
>>140881525
It's super easy, you just suck cocks.
>Oh, since it's a safe day wanna be do it raw?
>Jeez, a safe day. But that's not 100%, no so [I don't want to do it raw].
>>140884388
Thanks dude, I figured it was something simple I was just misinterpreting.
なんだったんだ
Guys please help me with this doubt.
In a light novel, a character is nicknamed:
建御雷 - Takemikazuchi
And Ive seen some people calling him
建やん
Is that read Ken-yan? Why is he calling him that? Is it because of 建? Ive seen it translated as Take-san. Just want some confirmation. Thanks.
ああ もう！、二つのスレで糞レスするのは面倒だ
>>140886615
ああ もう
お前は糞animeでござるのはだする
>>140886517
Probably just a nickname based on the kanji used in his name.
If I write. 彼女の魔法を止めるために彼女の目を切る. Did I write "(I) cut her eyes to stop her magic?"?
>>140886960
おおいメイト、桜ちゃんオレのものだぜー
*鞘を払う*
>>140886615
Oh well. Thanks.
Hopefully you can help me break this down.
Two characters arguing, trying to blame each other for starting the fight, third character trying to break up the fight says
>どっちが悪いとかじゃないじゃないですか
I get that they're trying to say something like "It doesn't matter who's in the wrong" but can someone break it down for me so I can see how じゃないじゃない works?
>>140887665
The second じゃない is just a polite way of seeking agreement.
>そうじゃないですか？
>Isn't that right?
Is there a mass exodus of japs to other countries or something? I keep hearing them at the super market and doctor and shit. Is it just because I can understand them now? There are lots of chinese here so I'm like 珍しい but now it's really common I think.
>>140888098
Yeah pretty much how I was thinking. The double jyanai putting the negative right against the affirmation like that just threw me a bit
>Docchi ga warui toka jyanai, jyanai?
>It's not a case of who's wrong, okay?
Or something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2vj4yJ25c
ちんちんてい
糞を食べましたｗ
Which anime is the easiest for beginner?
>>140893147
loghk-on
>>140893256
What if I haven't watched it before will I still get a lot of it? I know about 2k words and I am very smart
I was wondering if someone could explain the differences between the following phrases:
X は/が 必要ではない
X は/が 必要はない
X は/が 必要がない
X は/が 必要ない
If I am correct, the way that these are structured are:
X is not needed (必要[adj.]＋negative です)
X is not a need (必要[noun]＋は＋negative ある)
There is no need for/to do X (必要[noun]＋が＋negative ある)
There is no need for/to do X (必要[noun]＋negative ある [が dropped to make it more casual])
Am I correct in thinking of the phrases this way?
>>140895759
Go ask in the real thread.
>>140896139
But this is the real thread, or are you implying the autistic thread is the real one?
>>140896515
Pretty sure this is the autistic one considering it was literally made to bait people into arguing about someone who literally flooded the board with duplicate threads trying to get the thread banned.
>>140896948
I think the thread that cares so much about an image is the autistic one.
>someone who literally flooded the board with duplicate threads
Don't know the person you are talking about.
> はじめからそっちって言ってるじゃないですか
I can't figure the speaker from this dialogue, I got it as "Isn't that what I've been saying since the beginning?", but is there any possibility it could be "Why didn't you say that from the beginning?"
What's the difference between 〜ため and 〜ために?
>>140899067
>〜ため
purpose of X (noun phrase)
>〜ために
for X (adverbial phrase)
