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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>139378235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
When you know what pain is, and when you have to make a choice, you learn that it is a decision. People think it's a fairytale thing, love and happiness, but you have to work hard. And then - you feel it deeply.
What kind of explanation is that. Is it hu or fu now
>>139425613
It's fu. Hu isn't a thing.
>almost 1488
>>139425613
what fucking shitty website are you learning from
Fucking realkana and anki. You don't need anything else
Reminder we will all surely become fluent
>>139425613
How fucked am I if I never learned to pronounce this properly and have just been saying fu? Will I be able to show my face in Japan?
>>139425613
It's hu and fu at the same time.
>>139425678
Ah okay. He said it's the katakan for hu which confused me..
>>139425747
It uses mnemonics + drag n drop to teach you, which helped me learn hiragana quick. I like it. I'm almost done with kana then I'm gonna move on from the site anyways
>>139425809
The pronunciation is different from word to word so you'll inevitably look like a fool anyway
>>139425809i-it isn't fu?
>>139425809
How fucked are nihonjins when they can't say R or L properly?
>>139425957
It is but the F sound isn't the same as the English F sound. It's a lot softer and kinda like H but sounds like F.
>>139425962
Pretty fucked. They sound mentally deficient when they try to speak English.
How do I determine whether the らりるれろ sounds are supposed to make something closer to an R or closer to an L? I've noticed that it's more like an L when it's at the beginning of a word.
>>139426266
Just listen to Japanese.
If you've watched enough animu you should know what らりるれろ sounds like so just imitate that.
On Anki, if I import a card with the same front but changes in the back, I thought it would change it. Instead, it seems like it's just not adding them. What can I do to change that?
Whoever gets a Japanese name will be able to learn Japanese, everyone else won't.
>>139426476
I know what it sounds like and my native language has a pretty similar R sound. Just wondering if there is a pattern. It's certainly not one sound that's between L and R, it changes depending on the word.
>>139426628
Jokes on you I gave up a long time ago I just come into the thread to discourage new learners
>>139426628
>implying there are japanese names
>>139426628
俺之名前：装甲・炎魔。
読み方：そうこう・ほのま
Why does my か always look wrong to me?
Help
>I can finally read a bit of easy nhk news
I never thought that reading about increased tomatoes prices could be exciting.
>>139427216
Because your stroke order is wrong.
>>139427216
Your お looks worse than your か
>>139427339
I'm copying the stroke order from Wikipedia.
>>139427360
I thought they looked pretty good...
Help me decide whether I should read my LN or chill out with some aria lads
>>139427360
Don`t you mean his あ? His お were good at the top.
>>139427417
Check this one out, helped me a lot with my handwriting.
>>139427511
Didn't notice it at first, but yeah, it's pretty bad too.
>>139427216
Your handwriting is fine, don't listen to faggy edgelords on /a/ who couldn't do it themselves anyway
>>139427511
My hand was pretty sore by the last お, so they suffered pretty hard. I'd done 20 each of あいうえ and their katakana equivalents (which I can't figure out how to type on my phone) by then.
So if my earlier ones were good, I'm happy.
My き is coming out worst of all...
>>139427417
Then do it like the nip children do it; get a sheet meant just for writing individual kana.
You know, those squares that are broken into 4 smaller ones to give you a sense o positioning.
>>139427705
>My き is coming out worst of all...
Are you writing your き the same way it shows up in these posts or like the one here >>139427648 ? It`s easier to do it like in that guy`s pic.
By the way, you`re in for one hell of a ride if you intend to write the kanji as well.
>>139427743
What I really need is one that starts out with tracing. I'll have to find/print one like that later.
>>139427872
>Are you writing your き the same way it shows up in these posts or like the one here
I was doing it like the font.
>By the way, you`re in for one hell of a ride if you intend to write the kanji as well.
O-one bridge at a time, senpai
>>139427969
http://japanese-lesson.com/resources/pdf/characters/hiragana_writing_practice_sheets.pdf
>>139427872
I think the difficulty of writing kanji is overestimated. You'll get good at it pretty fast.
>>139427969
It's harder to write き like in the font, better switch now so you don't have to change your habits later on.
Trace sheets:
http://japanese-lesson.com/resources/pdf/characters/hiragana_writing_practice_sheets.pdf
What is a reasonable number of new vocab words per day?
>>139427969
Kanji seems like this intimidating mountain to beginners, but it's really not all that hard once you get into it. There is only so many different strokes + radicals, just arranged in different ways.
After you're done it's like "the fuck, I thought kanji was supposed to be the hard part" and you realize how foolish you actually were.
Just do things consistently and you'll be fine.
>>139428414
6 seems pretty reasonable, staying away from 7 and all
>コンセント
>wall socket
Really now?
>>139428506
>wanting to take 1000 days to learn the 2k
okay
>>139428414
I did 20 for a while, but you soon get thousands of reviews, so I dropped to 5, it is perfect. I get at most 300 reviews per day.
>>139428414
20~50 for most depending on how much time you have. Some do really high numbers for short periods (100+). Breaking the learning into chunks of 10~20 at a time generally helps.
Expect the number of new cards added daily to multiply by 10 in terms of reviews after 2~3 weeks.
Also, remember that keeping up your daily reviews is MORE IMPORTANT than learning x number of cards a day. If you're getting backlogged and struggling to make it through all your reviews, take a day or two off of new cards to keep things under control.
>>139428588
The hard part is being consistent with the size of your hand written kanji. Writing 子 and 難 can be tricky if you want them to occupy roughly the same amount of space.
>>139428818
He's not doing core 20k, mate.
>>139419335
Aren't は and ま the wrong way round here?
IIRC あかさたなまはやらわん
>>139429157
dunno if that means anything but realkana puts ha before ma
>>139426792
I'm not sure about normal conversational Japanese but at least in songs it seems like they just use whatever sound they think fits the most. I think there's at least some variation from person to person on the same word too.
>>139428881
It helps to either use the specialized paper for learning kanji (grid divided into 4 smaller squares) or just plain larger graph paper.
There is a printable version of the large one here:
http://incompetech.com/graphpaper/custom/centimeter-black.pdf
>>139429277
Yeah, a quick google reveals I had remembered that part the wrong way round.
>>139428808
Concentric. It comes from power connectors where the contacts were concentric - a pin and a ring, for example.
http://www.geocities.jp/nk1028nk/a121113a.html
>>139427495
>>139426601
No one?
>he thinks he will have a cute handwriting when he sucks at roman alphabet
lmaoing at you america
>>139429456
Japan really is stuck in the past.
>>139429895
Fuck off Estella no one likes you
I might just study today thanks to this shit theme.
>>139430102
Theme?
>>139429895
>cute
Bitch I just want to write it decently.
I completed memorization of kana today!
Is there any proper order to learn now, or do I just do vocab / grammar / kanji side by side? I've got the core2k/6k anki set up as well as Tae Kim bookmarked. Anything else?
>>139430392
It depends on how good do you want to be.
If you just want to be good enough to read porn, studying via vocab is more efficient.
If you want to truly master the language, studying the kanji individually is better. The road is steep though.
>>139430392
Focus more on kanji for a bit if you find that vocab is becoming too difficult.
Try to get through basic grammar faster rather than slower as well, so you can start reading interesting stuff (likely yotsuba& at first) rather than just grind vocab forever.
>>139430392
>Tae Kim bookmarked
Oh shit, charlene's serious
Remove the review limit on anki, ignore anon's altered anki statistics, set up a text hooker for VNs and start reading VNs or manga as soon as you want
Which is better, Sanseido or Shinmeikai? My impression is that Shinmeikai is only really popular for meme definitions. Also, has anyone tried the Android apps?
>>139430558
If you want to learn Japanese, study vocabulary
If you want to learn epic memeonics, study kanjitachis
>>139430558
>>139430601
>>139430633
Thanks! Guess I'm gonna grind a couple dozen vocab then start reading Tae Kim.
>Focus more on kanji for a bit if you find that vocab is becoming too difficult.
Is there another of those anki stacks for essential single kanji rather than vocab? Can I have a link? I don't think it is in the anki startup guide.
>>139431122
Oh and besides changing reviews to 9999, is this fine? I'll adjust new cards as I go, I'm mostly curious about what intervals are optimal
this april fool thing is really appropriate for djt i think
>>139431122
For info on kanji check the guide under
Learning Japanese > Benefits & Drawbacks of Learning Kanji
It's up to you if you want to focus on kanji or not, but it's generally helpful if you're confusing similar looking ones or having trouble learning new vocab.
>>139431262
Some people change the Steps (in minutes) to 1 1 10 20 or 1 1 10 30
This just means that anki will show you new cards additional times, the repetition helps some with initial learning of vocab.
>>139430392
Do vocab and grammar side by side, but prioritise grammar. Fuck studying kanji individually.
I actually love this theme, it's great. I hope it is available in the drop-down theme select menu from tomorrow on; I never use 4chan in public because it would be obvious that I was doing so, but if this were available then it would be perfect for inconspicuous browsing.
Is there an equivalent of Kanji Damage with mnemonics that aren't complete garbage?
Should I use romaji input for typing or Kana input?
>>139431772
Buy a kana keyboard
>>139431849
i live in nipland so my keyboard comes with Kana
>>139431672
so, hows your japanese going?
>>139431739
make your own
>>139431739
what is it, you dont like memes from 2002?
How the fuck do you reset a deck in anki, or keep learning after the limit without adding new stuff
>>139431739
RTK
>>139432266
Copy your deck before you start, so when you finish one you can start the other.
>>139432463
How do you copy?
>>139432654
COPY LOUD AND CLEAR LIMA CHARLIE
>>139432654
How do you copy?
>>139432654
read each bit and copy it over to the new address
>>139432735
>>139432819
>>139432826
please no memes
>>139432735
Houston you are coming in five by five, over.
charlie bravo everyone is fucken gay
How about a little survey?
Current age:
Age you started studying Japanese:
What level you consider yourself at:
What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
Goals, if any, for this year:
私わ本気
>>139433483
私は日本！！
>>139429644
Is this good
I have the anime downloaded
>>139433286
>Current age:
20
>Age you started studying Japanese:
18
>What level you consider yourself at:
Toddlers have a larger vocab than me
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
None
>Goals, if any, for this year:
To kill myself, or learn enough jap to be comfortable with moege, whichever comes first.
>>139433602
Two years and you can't read moege? Have you been slacking anon?
>>139433644Got through 2k before having a 2 week break. Biggest mistake of my life desu. I'm just now getting towards 1k again, it's ever so slightly easier because I already remember a handful of words I get shown a day. Still need to tackle the grammar though, only just finished the Basic section of Tae Kim.
>>139433286
>Current age:
19
>Age you started studying Japanese:
19. I at one point a few years ago started studying but didn't get very far.
>What level you consider yourself at:
Early Beginner
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
None of them
>Goals, if any, for this year:
Miss less than 5 days of studying.
>>139433286
69
2
おれわにっぽんとおかまなんだけどね
最果てのイマ because it was really hard to make myself do it due to it being boring as fuck and dense. i got it romeo all your readers are idiots thanks for the heads up
goal is to revolutionize djt
>Current age:
19
>Age you started studying Japanese:
17
>What level you consider yourself at:
Pretty good, not great
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
Probably 水平線まで何マイル I guess, if by "comfortably" you meant as in "barely using a texthooker".
>Goals, if any, for this year:
My goal was to finish reading LOGH. Its hard to have goals when all you do is read and slowly accumulate vocabulary.
>>139433751
I'm sure you know by now, Estelle, but never take breaks
>>139433751
>1k into 2k/6k
>only now starting essential grammar
haha shit nigga
>>139433751
>two years and just now tackling grammar
What in the fuck...? It's no fucking wonder you can't read shit. Seriously people, this is why you need to study grammar with your vocab.
>>139433858
>>139433871
But if I avoid actually reading Japanese and just focus on Anki then I feel like I'm seconds from fluency. It's a nice feeling. A fake feeling, but a nice feeling.
>>139433846
>I'm sure you know by now, Estelle, but never take breaks
I know, I just wish I knew before.
>>139433972
so this is what they call Kanji hell...
>>139433871
There've been a lot of fucking retards in these threads this year. You would be hard pressed to find idiots doing Genki or whatever flavour-of-the-month bullshit learning method but there are lots of people posting about that and less people giving sound advice on doing core and mining ASAP.
Then again, it's probably some superautist spamming the thread or running some sort of 'experiment' again.
>>139433972
>if I avoid actually reading Japanese and just focus on Anki then I feel like I'm seconds from fluency
You're a retard, Samantha
So do most of you learn vocab without mnemonics in anki? You just look at them then try to remember them?
>>139434241
>You would be hard pressed to find idiots doing Genki or whatever flavour-of-the-month bullshit learning method in 2015*
>>139434241
>make such a bad decision that anon thinks I'm just an autist making shit up
>>139434275Suck a dick Shaun
>>139434241
>There've been a lot of fucking retards in these threads this year.
such as david gray
>>139434363
I wish namefags would fuck off
>>139434296
>You just look at them then try to remember them?
well...yes?
>>139433286
25
24
Upper babby lower intermediate
I've read a bunch without much trouble, but the only one I actually read to the end isいなかえっち
Just finished Dark Souls 3 in Japanese, though, does that count?
Not much goals, probably beat SMT Final and Persona 5 in Japanese and read Island when it comes out, the trial was really fun.
>>139433286
>Current age:
18
>Age you started studying Japanese:
14, but halfheartedly and gave up, 17 on this attempt
>What level you consider yourself at:
Middle beginner
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
Hanahira
>Goals, if any, for this year:
Read Flyable Heart (unless I end up hating it and dropping it), mine at least 5000 words
>>139434464
yeah i just spend all day staring at the flashcards all like じ～ but then when i close anki i dont actually know how to do anything and i think it will just get better the more i do this
>>139434296
Yes. If that fails to work a couple of times then I'll try and match what it looks like to the word in some way. For example 今夜 I remember as "bitches are gonna CON-YA tonight". Failing that I'll repeat them forever until I get so tired that I ask /djt/ if they are even used often and it one person says "no" then I susspend the card and pretend I am not a useless cunt who できない
>>139434493
How was DS3? Better than 2?
>>139434296
Like 70% without mnemonics and 30% by drawing connections to other kanji/coming up with mnemonics when there's an obvious one or I'm really having trouble
>>139434493
>いなかえっち
How is it? I like the look of the art, would you recommend it to a beginner?
>>139434567
>but then when i close anki i dont actually know how to do anything and i think it will just get better the more i do this
It will, that's how Anki works.
>>139434606
>Better than 2?
By a fucking mile, it's great.
>>139434773
If you like the art then sure, it's a braindead nukige.
>>139434914
>If you like the art then sure, it's a braindead nukige.
Nevermind I was looking at https://vndb.org/v13228 I'll still give the otehr a shot at some point though
>>139433286
>Current age:
25
>Age you started studying Japanese:
24 (2 months before turning 25)
>What level you consider yourself at:
Early Beginner
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
None.
>Goals, if any, for this year:
Finish the year being able to read non-chuuni LNs without much trouble.
>>139433286
>Current age:
31
>Age you started studying Japanese:
31
>What level you consider yourself at:
Kindergarten
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
N/A
>Goals, if any, for this year:
Study until my curiosity is satisfied, then quit
>>139435004
What LNs are you looking forward to? Just curious.
Are LNs generally harder than VNs? Or are they the same? I'm thinking VN might be a bit easier with voices and all.
>>139434914
I didn't even play 2, I quit 6 hours in since I wasn't having fun. Should I try playing 2 again before 3 or just not even bother?
>>139434914
Sweet. I'm still waiting for the official release since I'm not really interested in playing it in japanese.
>>139435324
>not really interested in playing it in japanese
And that's how you fail to learn Japanese, boys.
>>139435228
Play the first game, 2 is a fucking piece of shit that shouldn't have existed.
>>139435400
Not him
I played Demons Souls in Japanese. Wasn't particularly worth it. Localized dialogue was actually superior to the original dialogue.
>>139435430
I did play DS1 ~2 years ago because DS2 was then coming out soon. I thought it was a fucking masterpiece, easily one of the best games ever made. Then DS2 was very disappointing. I look forward to DS3 based on your impressions of it, although I may need to upgrade my computer first.
>>139435400
I listen to music in japanese, fap to works written in japanese, read japanese comics, do japanese flashcards every day and unconsciously review phrases in my head. On top of that I read something that's above my level for at least an hour a day. I don't think playing one game in english will make me 'fail' to learn japanese, especially when some might even consider me to have already passed the point of being able to 'fail' learning Japanese.
>>139435660
Butthurt much, Amelia? Learn to take a little good-natured joke at your expense.
>>139435706
Fuck off smalldick
>>139433286
>Current age:
23
>Age you started studying Japanese:
23
>What level you consider yourself at:
shit
>What is the "hardest" VN that you've read comfortably?:
Haven't read any
>Goals, if any, for this year:
Keep grinding.
>>139435202
>What LNs are you looking forward to?
やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている
冴えない彼女の育てかた
ココロコネクト
変態王子と笑わない猫
And this chuuni one - ノーゲーム･ノーライフ
Yes, there are fan translations to some of those but I want to be able to read raws whenever I feel like it.
According to the survey posts everyone is pretty new at it. Did the old people of DJT all fall to dekinai-chan?
>>139435805
>>139435863
your poll is flawed. only /djt/-newfags respond to it.
>>139435863
If you actually want to learn Japanese, you close DJT and study, being here means you're slacking.
>>139435597
>I thought it was a fucking masterpiece, easily one of the best games ever made.
Nah, it went to shit after Ornstein and the other faggot.
>>139435805
Ah yes, I want to read SaeKano as well since moogy said it's good. I've no other target LNs though since I have never heard of any that aren't anime / have English translations. Maybe someone should make a chart akin to the VN one.
>>139435597
DS2 was made by other people as far as I am aware, which is why it isn't as good. I'm sure you'll love 3.
>>139435863
>implying you'd still come here if you could dive head first into japanese and live
They are either all fluent making love with their commemorative fluency dakis, or they are in rehab for abusing ADHD drugs and/or fish oil.
>>139435899
At least they`re goals to have.
>>139435706
>still having the names on
I want reddit to leave.
>>139435537
Well, I thought the Japanese dialogue in DS3 was alright, and you can hear the English voices anyway.
The juiciest part of it is item descriptions, though, plenty of cool new kanji to mine.
>>139435863
Nobody above intermediate is going to spend a significant amount of their time in this shithole. You can tell by the recent threads. When anyone posts a question that's even remotely hard, it gets little to no replies. It used to be that imouto would give an answer to these questions but you fuckfaces have chased him off too.
And now look at this thread. Someone posts some hiragana or some shit and everyone fucking replies to it because that's the only Japanese they know. If that doesn't tell you how shit this general has become, I don't know what does.
The only reason why I'm still here is because I love eating shit, but I don't see myself staying any just to be lectured on my learning methods by some self-important shitter who's just started his Japanese course.
>>139436213
Those are fucking fighting words, mate. Test me and we'll see who's the real shitter here.
>>139436213
>lots of people answer really easy questions
>not so many people anser harder questions
woooow it's almost like that exact scenarion couldn't be applied to literally every dicussion on everything ever.
>>139436213
Why are you angry?
>easy questions get answered quickly
>hard questions don`t
No shit?
>>139436475
Your point is?
>he cant recall kanji
Should have studied kanji individually, mate.
>>139436502
I probably worded that badly, but I wanted to convey the idea that less intermediates = beginners giving shitty beginner advice to each other which is a lose-lose situation. Which has increased due to recent events.
I'm just going to stop replying here. Meta discussions are gross and I'm gonna go to bed
Does Genetic Kanji not have every joyou kanji? I can only find the pages for Grade 1 - 5 kanji.
>>139436213
I'm pretty fucking 上級 but I'm not coming here to answer questions.
>>139436642
I can, it's just blurry, and vague.
>>139436213
>HURR EVERYONE IS FUCKING STUPID except me
>>139436813
y u so salty tho?
>>139436543
My point is using "Nobody answered by complicated question but they all answered the guy who said "What does できない mean?"" as proof that everyon here is a shitter is fucking stupid.
You could go to any forumn on the internet and ask a complicated question, you'll get far fewer replies than if you asked a very simple easy to answer question.
>>139436642
Do you handwrite letters to people in Japan? If not, then it doesn't fucking matter. The vast majority here are learning Japanese to consume media, not to write.
>>139436813
>hurr
>>139436843
>If not, then it doesn't fucking matter.
Even if you have Japanese friends and want to send them nenga and shit you can just look up the stroke order on the internet as you write it.
それから渋谷訳 からワーまで 電車で行きます。
What それから does mean?
What I understand from that sentence was we take the bus from there/that from 渋谷訳 to the tower.
Why the particle から is used in two places?
>>139437176
Then X
After Y, X.
それから is a pretty common expression, you know.
I was thinking about why it was hard for me to get into watching anime/tv as practice and it finally hit me that I was hesitant to start reading as well until I realized that there's no need to worry about ruining/misunderstanding dumb nukige. Similarly, there's no need to worry about misunderstanding dumb harem anime! So, has anyone watched some genuinely bad harem anime lately that would be good practice (as opposed to good ones like Inou Battle and Bakemono)? All I can think of is something like Highschool DxD that I read the LN for.
>>139437176
それから usually means from (a certain moment) onwards (then/after that/since then). If you had more context, then it could be understood better.
>>139436213
This.
Can anyone help with some details from this wall of text?
「魔族は、退屈していたのだよ。 我々は、己の支配する空間においては、限りなく全能だ。 望むことは、即ち得ることだった。 唯一興奮することは、支配域を奪うことだが、何世代も前に、すべての力は完全に拮抗していた。何の変化もない日常というやつだ」
>望むことは、即ち得ることだった。- in this context, does this mean "what was desired, was acquired"?
>唯一興奮することは、支配域を奪うことだが、何世代も前に、すべての力は完全に拮抗していた。何の変化もない日常というやつだ - I understand from the first part of this sentence that "the only thing that excited (us) was taking (someone else's) territory" but what does
"何世代も前に、すべての力は完全に拮抗していた。"? Countless generations before (we) perfectly rivaled power?
>>139437628
I don't watch stuff I will have a bad time with, no matter how much of it I understand, so instead of bad harems I watch good old CGDCT.
Some time ago I rewatched K-on and was surprised at how much of it I missed the first time by looking at subs instead of the show itself.
>>139436213
面白いなあ先生
じゃ出来ることを見せてもらえますか
あたしは勉強したいよ
何かを教えろよ
しないと、ばかうせろってしかねえなあ
>>139437176
それから
then/from there,
渋谷訳 からワーまで
from x to y
>>139437880
Screwed up my '>' a little bit, sorry.
>>139437913
If you can't see this thread is filled with beginners then you probably aren't much more than one yourself. No one's going to waste their time trying to prove themselves to people they don't owe anything to. If anything, you should be trying to get more advanced people to stick around, instead of ridiculing them when they discuss why this thread has problems.
>>139437899
I find pleasure in bad harems luckily.
>>139438062
>instead of ridiculing them when they discuss why this thread has problems.
No one is going to kiss your feet, dude. If you act like a cunt, you get treated like one.
Does anyone subscribe to nihongonomori on youtube
? Are there some worksheets or practice test that I can't seem to find. The newest videos seem to be working through some kind of text that I can't seem to find on their website.
>>139438182
I'm not even the original poster. But if you guys get butthurt every time someone says they're comfortable in the language it's easy to see why no one but beginners stick around.
>>139438062
if you dont think its fun to come here and post like an asshole then idk what to tell you thats all i want to do
theres maybe 1 decent question per entire thread its true and theres no one that really generates any good content so yeah
>>139437628
Last season's indefensibly bad copy-paste harem was Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut.
>>139438062
This thread doesnt have problems. It's an anonymous forum, with the content entirely determined by anonymous posters. If there's a problem here its not with the thread its with particular posters. One time I mad a big dumb post about how DJT was shit, and someone said to me "maybe you're the one acting like shit". And it was true. I thought DJT was shit because I myself was obnoxious. Try looking in a mirror anon.
>>139438256
There was this french lady who said she was good and people challenged her. She posted a vocaroo of her fluent Japanese. Done. If you're truly comfortable it should be easy to show yourself as such.
>>139438256
>But if you guys get butthurt every time someone says they're comfortable in the language
Literally not the case
>>139438256
everything is a argument and a dick waving contest
>>139438325
whats the point of acknowledging challenges from the パンピー honestly. the 正真正銘 can do whatever they want take it or leave it its not like youre paying them for their time
>>139428414
I'm around 1500/6000 in for core and doing 15 a day. I think if you're not really swamped with work, 20 and higher is completely reasonable.
How old were you when you started learning moonrunes?
>>139438594
253 years later, I still don't know moonrunes
>>139438594
Think I was 20. Three years later I barely feel any progress...
>>139438594
3.
Three years later, I'm fluent. 俺わ日本
>>139438679
>>139438665
What have you been doing for three years? Shitposting here?
ども、新な/djt/の学生です（はい、からあのとき）
質問がある。はなひらになんぼう中が初めに選択ですか？ パーセント で。
ありがとう中前もって。
Remember to do your reps ASAP
>>139439064
haha oh w0w, I can almost understand everything here, I really can earn Japanese!
>>139425678
What about フード though. I think it's more correct to say that ふ is between fu and hu in pronunciation.
You guys focus a lot on the reading part of language learning but do any of you speak with native speakers on any kind of regular basis?
>>139439180
we used to speak with 妹 but then they got bullied into leaving
>>139438969
Too busy watching anime while shitposting here to be doing reps
>>139439298
Stop forcing it so hard, Drew
>>139439064
69 パーセント
他にないかな
>>139439179
hu is a thing you just dont see it from gaijins
>>139439298
おにいちゃんおはよう
うんこしようよ
If there are only two thousand kanji and each has two readings on average, does tht mean there are only about four thousand roots?
>>139439179
>What about フード though.
That's just them doing what they can to cope with the limited nature of their writing system when it comes to dealing with foreign words.
>>139439491
>only
>>139436213
It's best to adapt a chill mentality in regards to djt. There are actually at least some people here that are good with Japanese.
I'm willing to bet Jamal right here >>139438538 is one of them. そうだろうjamalさんよ
>National Diet
what the fuck?
Also why is this in the core2k? I thought core2k was the 2k most common words.
>>139439851
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_(assembly)
>>139439851
2k most common words in newspapers.
>>139438594
25
I'm still 25 but I'm feeling really good about my progress.
>>139439692
i actually go by peggy now (性転換しました)
its good to not take things too seriously and relax as much as you can as well as chill generally
俺はお前の日本語宿題のお手伝いさんじゃねー
いつも通りやることをやるんだ
>>139436445
Okay, are the etymology sections in Japanese-only kanji dictionaries like 新漢語林 or okjiten.jp accurate? For example, is the right side of 抜 really supposed to represent sacrificing or crucifying a dog? They seem a lot more confident than English etymology dictionaries are.
>>139440575
Sure, it's their language and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.
>>139440362
やっぱ、結局しちゃったんだね。
セックスチェンジ大変おめでとうございます。
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What's おゆり mean?
>>139440792
Is that a troll attempt, Bethany?
>>139440575
文豪さんとかお話を聞けーよ
私はじゃないだよですね。
これはたもしいですか？
私はにぽんごのべんきゅうしただ。
What's this white material design cancer?
>>139440792
>>139441295
watch out for people named beth they are fuck heads
>>139441349
i think its cool
Can I add ですか after だ to indicate a polite question while still retaining the status of a being?
Sorry if the question if stupid, I'm just starting out and I don't see this addressed in Tae Kim。
>>139440914
No. GT translates it to "oyuri", but what is that?
>>139438594
15. I'm 22 now. ;_;
Hey, just checking in, I was wondering if imouto is still staying away? I really hated that fag.
>>139441457
All clear.
>>139437880
>望むことは、即ち得ることだった
I think it means "right away" or "at once" here. Look at the 副詞 defn in http://kobun.weblio.jp/content/即ち
>何世代も前に、すべての力は完全に拮抗していた
Yeah, 拮抗 can be "力に優劣がなく互いに張り合うこと" which fits this idea of "perfect rivalry" well, so I agree that it's probably something like "(Even) countless generations ago, all (our) power was perfectly balanced in opposition."
(If you meant "It was countless generations before our power became perfectly balanced," that would be すべての力が完全に拮抗してきたまでは何世代も経った or something, I think)
>>139441457
We did it /djt/, we chased imouto away.
>>139441422
You want to ask someone if they are in X state or not? ですか or いますか, no だ
>>139433286
>21
>20
>japanese professor level
>I dont read picture books
>Move to japan
>>139441608
There's no we here. One or two cunts did.
>>139432463
Kek, I was just shitposting when I replied to this guy but nobody else set him straight.
If you're still reading this anon, you can do what you want with the "custom study" option.
If you study more cards they will count as having been studied the next day too, but the benefit is you get to do it without having to change your limits, so you can go at your own pace.
>>139442161
>professor level in 1 year
Tell me your secret anon.
>>139442193
Maybe next time you'll help the foreigner understand that being a namefag is bad, so he doesn't keep getting shat on.
>>139441432
Okay, in that case: That's a わ and no ゆ.
>>139442349
No it isn't, do you have eyes?
>>139442336
You have a name too, so you aren't in any position to shit on namefags.
>>139442411
u stoobid
>>139442193
It's pretty pathetic that only a few people stood up to this kind of shit.
I have ascended.
Wanikani>>>>>>>POWERGAP>>>>dogshit>>>>>Anki
>>139442349
Okay, that makes sense.
In the future, how do I tell? It really looked like a stylized ゆ, same way the お didn't have a hook thing on the right.
>>139442710
Shit wrong pic
>finished my reps
>>139442806
>37 words
You utter mad man
>>139437880
>望むことは、即ち得ることだった。
"to want something was to have it" (because they were essentially omnipotent)
即ち is equating two ideas
don't listen to >>139441574, it's not kobun
the second part simply means that they haven't been able to steal much because their power has been equal for generations
use a J-J dictionary for 拮抗, J-E do not tell the full meaning
論議うぜえんだよ
四月馬鹿だけじゃねー
毎日ばっかり
>>139442739
just live life and see shit and it becomes less new
>>139442739
Reading a lot of handwritten shit.
Doujinshi are probably the most readily available material for that.
What are you currently readingfor pleasure? Hows it going?
>>139442739
open your eyes next time
>>139442806
Is that all the reps you do daily?
Looks like it would take like 5 minutes to do
>>139443060
ちょびっツ漫画
>>139442808
>haven`t started yet
>>139443260
面白いですか？
>>139443262
Better get started then before it's too late and bad things happen.
>>139443521
ちいいいいいぃぃぃぃ
決まってるでしょう
>>139443647
>tfw enjoy doing anki
also source?
What exactly is a 交番?
>>139442884
It's in the non-kobun dictionary too, kobun was just the first one I saw.
http://www.weblio.jp/content/即ち
But on second thought I think you're right. I didn't think you could use the conjunction like Ａは即ちＢだ, but one example for the conjunction definition is 子の喜びは，（すなわち）親の喜びである so obviously you can.
