>''After the earrings are split, the resulting fusion will have the power level of both fusees, multiplied by each other.''
Jesus fucking christ, just how powerful was he?
Strong asmy dick
Really strong but he doesn't do anything
>>134130563
Thought he looked the coolest when i was a kid.
He still does.
>>134130692
but he was setting records
>>134130741
My nigga. I still don't know how the fusion got nulled inside of Boo. I remember reading as a kid that it was about the atmosphere or something.
>>134130563
>tfw you realize Vegito could probably wipe the floor with Whis's ass.
>>134130985
Although the Potara fusions are permenant, they're held together by Kai magic, which is like the purest of the pure. Buu's body was basically a wasteland of the most evil and negative energy, so it reversed it.
>>134130563
>the power level of both fusees, multiplied by each other.
Excuse my stupidity but can someone explain this? So Vegito has the power level of Goku + Vegeta... times 2? So the power level of two Gokus and two Vegetas?
>>134131149
GukoxVirginia=Virginio
If the universe could barely handle Goku and Beerus fighting, this must break the universe just by existing.
>>134131149
jesus man, it means that Vegito has the power level of Goku x Vegeta
>>134131149
Goku * Vegeta
>>134131111
that makes too much fucking sense.
>Vegito
>Can't defeat Buu
>Goku with simply a big ass Genkidama
>Can defeat Buu
I still don't understand why.
>>134131313
Vegito could easily defeat Buu, he just fucked up and got absorbed.
>>134131239
>>134131253
>>134131224
Retards, it's:
((Goku + Vegeta) * Vegeta) * Goku)
>>134131313
'cause you're retarded, he could have defeated buu, but he didn't want to because he wanted to free the guys inside him
>>134131149
remove the comma
>>134131239
>>134131253
As opposed to Gogeta which is...?
>>134131313
Vegito could defeat Buu, he just deliberately let himself get swallowed so he could free everyone from inside Buu's body.
Of course, Buu's body was basically 101% evil so the Kai magic unfused them.
After everyone got freed, Buu became Kid Buu, which is basically his base form (around the same strength as Fat Buu) Goku SSJ3 could handle this pretty well, if it weren't for the energy limit.
>>134131339
He didn't fuck up you retard, it was his plan all along. He fooled around so Buu would get desperate enough to absorb him with the part that Vegeto INTENTIONALLY cut off.
It was all because he wanted to save the people that were absorbed by Buu, because apparently Dragonballs don't exist.
I swear you fucking retard speedreaders belong in a gas chamber.
>>134131424
Noncanon?
>>134131459
lol getting this mad at a dbz discussion on the internet are we? Does someone need a nap?
>>134131424
Fusion Dance fusion is, if I remember correctly:
Both fusees have their powers doubled, and then combined. It's more than just 1 + 1 = 2, but nowhere near as strong as Potara.
>>134131498
Yeah you do.
>dirt nap
How was he still sentient when he got turned into chocolate? Would he be stuck being chocolate or could he break the magic with power alone.
That chocolate thing was a pretty good gag but Toriyama sacrificed too much logic for that one.
Let's not forget that this colossal, universe shattering power is mutliplied by FIFTY TIMES when Vegito goes Super Saiyan (and 100 times if he were ever to go SSJ2)
>>134132030
We need him to return and go Super Cyan.
>>134132030
Super Vegeto is probably its own thing.
>>134132119
No.
That would literally be one of the most powerful entities, if not THE most powerful entity, to exist in a work of fiction.
>>134132308
Not really. There are plenty of actual Omnipotent figures in fictional works.
>>134131001
not even close
>>134132308
Wouldn't even be the most powerful in manga.
>>134130563
Confirmed to be weaker than SSG
Goku wonders to himself if earring fusion would be enough to stop Beerus in the BD version, but immediately passes off the idea after deciding that won't work.
>>134132626
But SSG wasn't enough to stop Beerus. Goku was still way weaker, Beerus just decided not to kill him.
>>134132308
>>134132543
>>134132615
Let's not go there faggots. Powerlevel threads are ok as long as you don't go to that omnipotent marvel crap.
>>134132683
SSG got the closest though
Its like fusion, except times six, also exponentially more, instead of just times two.
>>134130563
over 81,000,000.
>>134132626
Super went full retard with all their powerlevel shit. Everything seems to on a huge scale in terms of power levels but from the impact you feel of the power it might as well be the original Dragonball.
>>134132723
Earring fusion isn't times two. That's literally the entire point of this thread. It's times the other guys power level after adding them together. So rather than times 6, it's times however many millions Vegeta has after adding his.
>>134132773
>Super created SSG, or any part of the scene listed there.
What? You know there was a movie that came out before Super, that had this same scene don't you?
>>134132773
>Everything seems to on a huge scale in terms of power levels but from the impact you feel of the power it might as well be the original Dragonball.
That literally describes Z though. Everybody after Freiza is supposed to be able to blow up a planet on a whim but their strongest attacks aren't any more destructive or powerful feeling than they ever were.
>>134132626
Pretty sure Goku meant normal fusion like Gotenks. They both agreed never to permenantly fuse again after the Buu saga.
>>134132821
I don't talk about that specific scene. I'm talking about all of Super. It can only dream of showing power as impactful as when Goku turned Super Saiyan for the first time or Gohan turning SS2 or Goku turning SSJ3. Saiyan God is a fucking joke.
>>134132773
That's how dbz always was.
These people can supposedly destroy a planet with their pinky yet their fights will usually only destroy a cliff or a building at most.
not as powerful as one punch man LOL
>>134130741
Based
>tfw he had less than an hour of screen time
>>134131498
He is right though
>>134132030
didn't he go SSJ2 at the very end?
>>134130692
But it's not like Gotenks who delayed the battle to 'look cool' but was never in control of the fight to begin with. He at least had the excuse he needed to get inside Buu to free everyone (which was made pointless)
>>134133017
Nah. Would have been pointless anyway, wasting all that power when he was just acting as an indestructable decoy for a larger plan to free everyone.
>>134132997
>le one punch manIs that anime even worth watching?
>>134130563
That sentence means absolutely nothing if we don't know what scale they're using to measure powerlevels.
If we're going by that scale where Beerus was a 10 and SSG Goku was a 6, then Goku and Vegeta back then probably barely broke 3 or would be even lower. Multiplication wouldn't be very impressive then.
Could the dragonballs unfuse the permanent fusion if they wished for it?
>>134133330
Probably not since the power is beyond the dragonballs like when SSJ4 broke the curse of the evil dragonballs.
>>134133144
Been awhile, thought he did.
Would've been incredible though.
That whole sequence was great.
Yo Gohan, fuse with me?
Ok dad...
Fuck
Vegeta fuse with me
MUH HONER
Stop being a cunt
RAAAAAAGGGGGEEEE fuck you kakarot, but just this once
Vegito proceeds to troll Buu for 54 minutes.
>>134133330yes, kibito kai used it in the Dragonball Super manga so they could split back into two
>>134130563
The Term fuse actually doesn't mean 1+1=2 . When fusing 2 things it becomes more than a combination. I don't know the equation but in this instance fusing power levels isn't just power lvl of goku plus vegeta it's a whole new power level. Buu was just stacking his power levels, fusing into one being a whole new more powerful fighter.
>>134132906
Episode 12, the universe was almost destroyed by ssjg (red) goku vs bills fighting..... That's impact...
And blue form is much stronger so yeahhhhh.......
>>134133457
>Somebody used the spoiler that to hide an actual spoiler
I wasn't expecting that, FUCK!
>>134130563
>just how powerful was he?
Beerus tier, but he'll never return to get an exact measure.
>>134133533
Blue isn't stronger, just ssj rapping into god power, we are seeing how goku and vegeta achieve god power without using 4 other saiyans. Red is stronger, blue is just a means to get to red level.
>>134131491
Blue is stronger, stated several times.........
So you're making shit up.
Could SSGSS Gogeta defeat Beerus?
Yes, but not whis.
Doesn't matter because they will surpass most if not all the other gods that make vado and whis look like yamchua in the end
They will be cosmic.
>>134133174
Absolutely. Get on it
>>134134001
Now you are making things up, it's never been stated.
>>134130563
>Old kai even said the fusion is more powerfull if the 2 people fusing are rivals.
>>134132626
Nothing in Goku's arsenal would be enough to defeat Beerus since they had no idea about SSG
Now imagine Vegito SSG, he would shit on both Beerus and Whiskers
They are working on a transformation right now that looks different (strong) and that they cannot control for most of the series.
It's a ssj that's off limits because none of the gods will be able to match it.
It's not that goku will turn evil, but he will have the most difficulty and character conflict because this new form goes against who goku is morally.
Almost bloodlust. He will reach a point of enlightenment which will transcend all the gods.
>>134133430
Shenron cannot perform wishes stronger than his magical power, so he shouldn't be able to unfuse Potara fusion
>>134134001
It's been said in interviews that red is stronger.
>>134134237
It was stated by whis in CH 6.
Hell, it was stated in ep 21.
>>134134327
Golden Oozaru.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rE5QEiP.png "latest[1].png")
How would Omega fare in the new powerlevel list?
Or is SSJ4 Gogeta strong enough as SSG?
>>134134367
The original Dragon Balls could probably do it.
>>134134371
No it hasnt, even in episode 21 that was suggestive. Chapter 6 has nothing on it being stronger, you are connecting dots where there are none.
>>134133174
the anime is good, but ignore every single online discussion about it, it's the season trend and a meme to atract casuals, cancer and plebs, so you'll get cancer from reading them.
>>134133174
It is indeed good
But stay away from the threads
It is tumblr tier cancerous
>>134134370
It was never stated, he just said that he picked red for the b.o.g. movie because it was a "strong" color. There was so much talk about him supposedly stating ssg was stronger than super saiyan blue that he went out and said that's not what he meant. Super saiyan blue is stronger
>>134132997
Nice bait friend
>>134134615
Sauce or bullshit
>>134133144
>for a larger plan to free everyone.
And then Goku went full retarded and let their own sons die to rescue Mr.Satan, Dende and a fucking dog.
so who would win one punch man or 2 vegitos fused with a third pair of potaro rings?
>>134134615
Thank you.... Blue is stronger get over it.
>>134130563
lol that's retarded. why would the Kai's use the same power measurement as the saiyan? what if their power measurement takes beerus as the standard and make his power level 1? that would make goku and vegeta like 0.1 at that point, then by fusing they become 0.01?
the concept is just made up on the spot, and here we got retards thinking it means anything
would only make some sense if it's (goku + vegeta) * N
It's common sense that blue is stronger.
There has never been climbing to a weaker form.
>>134134736
>full retarded
>saves the World Champion instead of some crazy kids performing light tricks
Mr. Satan killed Cell you fucking pleb
>>134134680
I'm not going to dig through shit to find it but here's an alright video
https://youtu.be/JOwS98jvgAY
>>134134852
It was never stated blue was stronger, tapping into god power isn't the same as full on god power, it's like saying hurculese was stronger than zues when he had some of the gods power.
>>134134955
Didn't he also convince everyone on Earth to help out with the spirit bomb? Or am I thinking of something else?
>>134135042
He did, Hercule saved the world
>>134135042
Nah you're right, Mr. Satan literally saved the universe
>>134134989
That's your proof? Some guy who likes dbz says blue is stronger than red in a game that's not even canon? That's not proof nor did he say blue was stronger than red.
>>134134615
>Red is Super Saiyan God using 100% god power
>Blue is the super saiyan form of a Super Saiyan that can use God power
Red is stronger but they need to perform that 5 saiyan ritual every time.
>>134135042
Yeah but they wouldn't have used the SpiritBomb if Gohan or Gotenks were alive because they would have destroyed kid buu in a second.
>>134135105
Holy shit are you autistic, that's literally just a background video, if you want to look up the interview than go ahead but I'm not going to
>>134135179
He literally said he doesn't know which is stronger so blue being stronger is incorrect
>>134134883
>implying 4channers can think
I know you're actually a monkey and your post was randomly assembled when you mashed the keyboard while looking for a banana
>>134135270
You got me there, but that was before super.
>>134135151
Not Gotenks but Gohan would wipe the floor with them if they just revived them
>If Super Cyan Goku and Super Cyan Vegeta Potara fused their power level would be 5.5875e+35
>>134135333
>>134135333
Super Saif he got stronger, didn't say anything that he was stronger than ssg. Plus super also said that ssg was left untapped because goku was still trying to bring it out to its full potential, he just ran out of time.
>>134131224
>Virginia
>>134132855
The only one who could destroy a planet was Frieza and even he had to accumulate a lot of power
And had to wait 5 minutes
>>134135553
So was vegeta in the saiyan saga
>>134135553
They could all destroy planets but were too scared too because they wouldn't survive that. Frieza held back because of that fear.
Buu could actually survive a planet's destruction and he was busting planet's left and right.
>>134135553
Huh? He destroyed Planet Vegeta with a finger with his base form
And then Kid Buu destroyed the earth like nothing
It's clearly stated that Freeza didn't use his full power on Namecc because he wanted to avoid the risk of being caught in the explosion
>>134132855
All of the Buu fights are super destructive. Gotenks probably would have killed off everyone if they weren't already dead at the time.
>>134135501
I wish our juice commercials were like that
>>134132773
What? Did you even watch Super? There were opening the ocean, lighting up the horizon with a missing random ki blast, shockwaves destroying distant planets, and an explosion on Earth was covering everything up to the Supreme Kai planet twice (once its power got concentrated to keep in control, the other time it was canceled by Beerus). It's the first time we're seeing actual power level scaling in a long time.
Also, in the manga, there's a flashback battle where Beerus and Champa casually destroy planets with missed punches and ki blasts and fly pretty much instantly from one planet to another while fighting.
>>134135601
That scene you are refering was anime bullshit filler. Vegeta could have destroyed Earth with that Galik Gun at full power he fired at Goku but not with the Freezer ease.
>>134136124
I was talking about the Galec gun
>>134136124
Piccolo destroyed the moon with easy, he did it before his battle with the Saiyans. I bet Saiyan Saga Vegeta can destroy the Earth.
>>134131001
Maybe after training... with Whis.
They also say ssjb>ssjg in chapter 5 manga as well.
They don't regress.
>>134136242
>>134136242
I didn't mean Vegeta could not destroy Earth. I meant he couldn't do that like Freezer. With 1 single finger, laughting and not breaking a sweat.
>>134136306
No they didnt you fag
>>134136306
I just read it all and can't find the moment they say that. I'm reading Mangastream btw.
>>134134458
He's weaker than Super Vegeta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la0QeAimClU
>>134136306
Why are you so dumb
>>134136365
Yes they did meatjuggler.
People are delusional. How much more blatant can it get.
>>134136479
No they didnt stop making shit up.
>>134136479
Notice how you haven't posted the page/panel
>>134133174
it's funny, but nothing special
>>134136330
>not breaking a sweat
If Piccolo can destroy the moon with easy, what does stop Vegeta from destroying the Earth with relatively easy?
>>134136557
Destroying the moon is not a big deal, Roshi destroyed it way before.
It's a general "you have gotten much stronger rather than a specific ssb>ssjg.
Implying that over the course of the beginning of their training (when goku still had post ssjg energy), they have both grown stronger.
It's not from blue to red .....
He doesn't need the form (ssjg) for the power it gives off anymore. They can fully utilize it and infuse it with their regular ki (ssj) to make each that much stronger if needed.
At least that's what I think this guy is getting at.
I asked a couple people in Japan, they all say blue is stronger as well.
>>134136423
Why do you keyboard? If you want to ignore facts stay retarded lol.
There is gonna be another form.
There is even a purer form beyond red, but blue is below red.......
>>134136666
If he doesn't need it then he would never have to tap in to it. He doesn't have full god power, they even say he was able to retain some of it. Not all of it. Not all Japanese are Akira Toriyama and know more just because they a japanese.
>>134136718
Are you 12?
>>134136823
That makes no sense, you are the embodiment of braindead
>>134136880
Old enough for your girl m8.
>>134136666
The god ki is only a way to catch up to beerus level, blue can have the capacity to achieve higher bit it's not there yet. The whole point of having to go ssj is to show that God power is hard to reach, he has to go ssj to use that God power where as ssjg he was in his base form.
>>134136951
Jokes on you, your mom told me how you came too soon.
>>134136841
True, but I would take the word of a Japanese fan over an American who relies on the internet and PR for information.
Plus, the people I have contacts with can make these type of phone calls reality in their free time as they have family members at some of the companies where you can get confidential information about any project.
It's just a bitch when they aren't always available.
>>134136898
Like ssgss makes sense?
>>134137060
Lol don't mistake your childhood trauma with me fucking your girl m8.
Fucked your girl so hard your sister got preggo.
>>134137083
>My dad works at nintendo.
>>134137083
Dragon Ball GT was made by Japanese people.
>>134137147
Wow you are 12, and autistic at that, this much salt you make the ocean envious.
What does he do at Nintendo?
It also depends what you are known for, what projects were you behind.
Then people will be more inclined to tell you. It technically is about who you are that determines that clearance of information.
If you are a fellow mangaka you will know more than any staff (oda and toriyama are tight).
Hell, even if you are just one of the people working on the project you can access information because you are associated with it.
Even if you work for another company its not hard at all.
If you are making a business deal with money on the table, they will literally throw shit from the grave at you that you thought wasn't supposed to exist.
Throw money at them, they will talk.
>>134137203
Your mom agrees. Check out her blood pressure, pure semen.
>>134137407
Yet this entire time you haven't shown proof of your case, plus all you said was a while heap of nothing . I can agree ssj blue can achieve higher level, but not now. If it was stronger goku would have challenge beerus to a fight, since goku never felt beerus power beyond 70%.
>>134137475
Wow we got the 7 seas of saltyness here, look out for this badass.
>>134137201
Lol true. I just mean regarding information to a Japanese project. They would know before we do about behind the scenes information NOT even available on the internet. Only close individuals would know.
>>134135449
>>134137550
And we have the embodiment of the man with the s on his chest.
Not because he's superman, because he has the universes smallest meat and has to compensate for it by lifting infiniti dicks.
>>134137508
He did in the underground cavern but goku lost the transformation.
Not that it makes a significant difference.
But take your pick, they have to show more content for blue for the vast majority of the fanbase to reach a conclusion so its all good.
>>134137661
Get a life..
>>134137762
They actually haven't they just gave it name, and said it's tapped, and the vast majority you don't speak for.
>>134136602
The moon is 3, 476 km.
Earth's 12, 760 km.
DB Roshi was able to destroy the moon. Piccolo is at least ten times stronger, Vegeta is ten times stronger in the Saiyan Saga than Piccolo. He should be able to destroy Earth with easy.
>>134137508
He was spot on actually. About the business world. Alot of things we never catch wind takes its own turn of stories on the net but never acknowledged when shit hits the fan behind the scenes.
As for the ssjblue, I get a sense that it's stronger, but not by much.
I will say this, toriyama interview about ssjg (red) can be taken the wrong way.
>>134133215
>if Beerus was a 10
>and SSG Goku was 6
>Buu Saga Goku and Vegeta were 3
>Potara fusion powerlevel is user 1 x user 2
>so Goku x Vegeta would be 3 x 3
>which is 9
>1,5 times more powerful than SSG Goku
>wouldn't be impressive
>>134138015
Are you just samefagging
>>134130563
So if Goku and Vegita did it again would Vegito be stronger than Whis or is it just Whisful thinking?
>>134138025
Potara fusion is even stronger if the fusing people are rivals so it would be (3x3)+Rival Power up
>>134137824
No, I speak for the fanbase that can actually comprehend facts. Not ignoring them until so called "more solid evidence" can be made. If whis said they overall got stronger they got stronger.
It's not encrypted information.
>>134138153
You have no facts. You have shown no proof. You speak for no one but your self.
>people talking about math and logic
It is DBZ you idiots, consistency is a myth and things are as powerful as the writer want it to be.
>>134135151
That's something to tell Vegeta. He decided "let the humans defeat this threat".
could he go ssj3 if he wanted?
Vegito is nothing compared to SSJG power.
Even assuming his power is equal to Goku*Vegeta they are at best solar system busters in canon.
They wouldn't even be close to destroying even a galaxy even if their powerlevel was multiplied, and Beerus+Goku can punch the universe into a vaccum.
>>134140865
Dude, no way. Cell had enough energy to wipe out a solar system when he went Super Perfect, and that was still weaker than Super Saiyan 2.
Vegito could've gone up to SSJ3 if he wanted, and even he wiped an opponent had absorbed another fusion and a Gohan stronger than a SSJ2.
Vegito could've seriously wiped shit out. Even then it is doubtful if he could've fought Beerus without the SSG power up.
>>134140396
Probably.
We barely even saw Vegito's full power. He was just pissing around.
>>134130563
(Goku + Vegeta) * Goku * Vegeta ?
>>134130563
DBZ power levels never made any sense and were basically tossed out the window later.
The only thing we know for sure is that fusion =/= A + B but rather some higher power level.
>>134130563
Is it
((1 + Goku/100) * (1 + Vegeta/100) ^ (Goku * Vegeta)) -1
Or
(Goku * Vegeta) * (Goku + Vegeta) ?
>>134138025
Actually it would be 3*3 * 6, so it would be 54
Vegito could beat Whis with his hands tied
>>134138025
Giving them a 3 was an extremely generous overestimation.
>>134130985
>>134131111
>>134131290
How did this 2 go unfused again?
God Im hyped to see >>134131233
>>134140865
Canonically, Goku said fusing with Vegeta again wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus.
Beerus > Super Saiyan 3 Vegito
And since Vegito is about as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, Beerus is stronger than basically all of GT.
>>134145656
They didn't say what method of fusing, though. Potara is way more potent than the dance as a tradeoff to being (mostly) irreversible. And the only method they seemed to have available to them at the time was the dance, so I'm assuming they just meant doing that.
>>134145765
Goku said "again." He meant Vegito, since they never formed Gogeta in canon.
>>134134812
Saitama wins, but only after using a super* serious move.
>>134142720
Maybe more like (Goku+Vegeta)^2
Assuming Goku and Vegeta at base during Buu Saga has 300,000,000 power level, than that means a base Vegito will have 360,000,000,000,000,000 power level. In comparison, Gold Frieza has a power level of 100. However, by going SSJ3, Vegito will 144,000,000,000,000,000,000, meaning he'll be slightly stronger than Gold Frieza, but probably still weaker than Beerus.
>>134147001
Oops, I meant Gold Frieza has a power level of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000.
>trying to make sense of DB powerlevels
Don't do it anon, you'll only hurt yourself
>>134147001
>frieza powerlevel
Not real
Frieza's powerlevel isn't legit and is more of an in-joke between his seiyuu and toriyama.
And judging by how Billls spoke of base Goku in their first fight both saiyans would be actually below 100% freeza.
Underated post.
>>134130563
>power of both fuses, multiplied by each other
lol
From my calculations Vegito would have been Quintillions times stronger than Buu without going SSJ.
>>134143697
They used the Namek's dragon balls since they gathered them for something else and didn't need them anymore.
>>134147751
>making calculations based on completely unknown numbers and factors.
If anything the way PLs are consistently handled in show suggests that you only need a 30% difference in power to make someone your bitch
Still not powerful enough to beat Superman or Saitama.
>>134135117
Goku already absorbed the God Ki and already went "beyond" SSG at his base stage, Super Saiyan Blue is even more powerful than that.
>>134148156
Not even that considering Vegeta one shot Qui who was maybe 90% his power level.
>>134130563
we can assume they are as strong as each other being the theoretical highest limit. so
2x^2
but in fact slightly less than that b/c vegeta slacked.
Which is stronger? SBG Goku and Vegeta fuse to Vegito and turn SSGSS or SSGSS Vegeta and Goku fuse into Vegito? Or does it make no difference?
>>134148528
>Saitama.
Kek come back when he has decent feats until
then Nappa>Saitama
>>134151121
Sure m8, Goku's punches are mountain level at best.
>>134151576
Nope, at least you tried.
>>134148339
>>134145656
Does all that moonie translate to
>strongest there is?
What is stronger?
SSGSS Gohan or all 6 saiyans fused together?
>>134151576
Are you autistic? Is this why /a/ hates OPMfags
>>134151937
All 6 saiyans couldn't fuse together. You need to have a somewhat similar build, so Goten and Trunks would have to automatically be disqualified unless they are adults for this.
>>134133689
Do you have a lawn to attend to.
>>134151937
This is difficult, but I would go with 6 Saiyans fused together (Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Goten, Table, Bardock).
>>134148528
Shit bait.
As it stands right now, is Super Cyan Vegeta stronger than Super Cyan Goku?
