Giza Necropolis continued, namefags BTFO edition
>>17558779
All videos from old thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwswTDvwMKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLh6-9PjO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFv4rbBkhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1y8N0ePuF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCK99mQUxw
The story so far:
>Giza Pyramids may or may not predate the Djoser pyramid complex
>Construction may have involved rivers of mercury
>power plant theory gaining traction
>fallen angels also possible
>global megalithic code structure favoured by namefaggot Akhenaten
>surprisingly no ancient aliens yet
>>17563842
>namefaggot
>famenaggot
fixed that for you
It's a bunch of bricks stacked up on top of other bricks. It's bigger on the bottom than it is on top so that it doesn't fall over.
The quarry where the stones were mined from is near the site and well established. Maybe of the stones have various markings of where it was carved and ropes used to pull them. There are heiroglyphics showing the builders putting them together. They are dated, by their own heiroglyphics, well after earlier pyramids. The workers didn't put too much effort in aligning the stones very carefully. There are multiple gaps between the stones, and they used mortar to fill the gaps.
>>17563861
anon in the image
maybe we should just focus on the Giza Necropolis
>>17563872
>>17563861
oh is that the screenie of the dishonest attribution of anonymous comments to me?
i really like when people resort to underhanded methods when they cant win an argument.
It shows how brave and respectavle they are
>>17563872
wait what hieroglyphics that show them putting it together?
>>17563878
Go back to the other thread if you want to discuss that.
>just follow the 17563853
>>17563875
The Giza necropolis consists of the three great pyramids, some lesser pyramids, the sphinx, cemeteries of lesser nobles, and the village of the workers that built the pyramids.
As the name implies, it's a necropolis. An above ground cemetery with tombs instead of graves.
>>17563884
no.
i will do as i please
>>17563872
this entire post is batshit
>>17563842
>namefags BTFO edition
Here you go, /x/-files.
>pic related
Enjoy your thread. Now Akhenaten free!
>>17563943
ORLY?
>>17563943
nice thanks anon.
>>17563955
We're all Akhenaten
As I posted last thread, you're all wrong. It houses the stargate you fucks. Shit, don't y'all know the movie was a documentary. Kurt Russell actually killed some ayy lmaos and saved earth. Fucking /x/ I swear.
>>17564101
Oh now thats fucking awesome
>>17564109
>>17563872
You're fucking crazy, seek mental help
Is there anything interesting about the older pyramids?
It's the Osirion that you should be taking a closer look at. That's the thing that would determine the age of the Giza facility. Pyramids were probably built on top of *much* older structures.
Here you go
http://youtu.be/jnAJX65Qh6k
I remember seeing that guy doing a geometrical analysis of the giza plateau. His idea was if they used math and logic to make the structure and where they build them, if there are some hidden room or else they must have been placed in a logical way regarding to the structure on surface.
So he determined a spot and went there to illegally scan the ground.
And he found what appeared to be rooms near the sphinx.
What the hell is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLh6-9PjO4
>>17564786
Chladni patterns
>>17563842
Just dumped these in what I guess is now a dying thread. I will repeat. This is a raw tour of underground the giza plateau. There are apparently 4 levels of blocked off shafts and tunnels. No-one knows wtf they were for. Water? Ventilation? Sound resonance?
Ignore the adverts at the beginning (I'm not here for shilling).
Part 1/4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6G9vyhVFU&nohtml5=False
Part 2/4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vihLxTVGJ3Y&nohtml5=False
Part 3/4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKjGbCJfb9w&nohtml5=False
Part 4/4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwvsOmmh3Q&nohtml5=False
>>17564737
Are those older? Or more poorly constructed to begin with?
>>17563842
I also dropped this in the other thread:
OP should check out the Serapeum of Saqqara for some genuine head-scatching WTFs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j9uHyDSH0s&nohtml5=False
>>17564812
>>17564803
this shit is blowing my mind
>>17564824
Right?! It's like a fucking sci-fi movie.... only real.
>>17564805
Both, you can kinda see the learning process and improvement
>>17564843
You sure the little ones weren't built in a poor attempt to emulate the great ones? You sure the bent ones weren't simply miscalculations?
>>17564798
It's kind of mind bending though.
This is sound, transformed into what almost looks like language. Or into patterns which could be interpreted as symbols, assigned meanings, and then structured together into it's own syntax and grammar.
These are Chladni patterns (named after some German dude who was both a musician and a physicist, go figure, got a mashing of math and emotion by chance?):
Thanks Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMIvAsZvBiw
One in a familiar shape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT30XOfd1yI&nohtml5=False
These vibrations were recorded inside the great pyramid at giza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLh6-9PjO4
Pic is random stone walls in south africa. Look up the Bakoni ruins.
>>17565548
Better pic. I grant you Africans are notorious for doing random shit, but that makes no sense. It looks like a sound wave.
>>17565555
I'm sure all of you here at /x/ are familiar with Michael Tellinger.
Have some drone footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLaenb-Y64&nohtml5=False
>>17563842
well thanks /x/, i now know what i want to do with my life. i want to clean out all of the shitty sand infesting the pyramid ruins, and flood the causeways in >>17564803 and fire (water) this baby up and see what happens
>>17565643
Good. Now graduate, get out into the world and fuck some shit up!
>>17565643
Nothing will happen, the golden cap stone is missing and also over 90% of the isolating (white) crust. If it was some sort of electrical device, it won't work in this state.
After reading on this issue for over 15 years now (and I digged everything from A to Z regarding the pyramids), it seems like a sort of manual initiation device. While nowadays you get true initiations in the Astral plane, students went through physical initiation on their way to priesthood. By initiation I mean awakening of certain senses/chakras/powers.
>>17566039
What we want here are physics. I've heard about the descriptions of a gold top and white gleaming sides, all cap-stones and facial stones, that were "quarried for other constructions". How are they going to quarry capping and facial stones that weigh tons off the top, and all the way down.... fuck you Egyptologists. The story makes no sense. It's just a shitty story.
Something happened.
My gut tells me that Egyptian culture found the great pyramids and simply set up shop, and repurposed them for the idiotic and simplistic religious weirdness we have today. "It's my tomb." 'I built this shit in 20yrs. No seriously, I did.' THAT's how awesome I am. I will live forever cuz see! I carved my cartouche right there. MINE. Mine forever.
Here, have a raw walk around the sphynx. I hate to keep shilling this guy but even if he's wrong on many points, it's worth some thought.
Were the Khemitians real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YuAzvkpY8s
>>17566211
This is /x/ so I expect open minds here.
Skip to the 4min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or-6ulewzaU&nohtml5=False
>>17563842
God bless Necropolis of this Planet!
What's this about
>>17565555
It looks like a dogs anus
>>17566211
>>17566256
wow. do you really believe anything these liars are selling you?
brien forester is a scamming shit merchant who pays poor people to rob graves. so pathetic. grow up people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJq_KSkHiM
>>17566325
Elongated skulls. All of the skulls are taken from burials of a culture that practiced artificial skull modification.
No sagital suture. Craniosynostosis happens. It's a fact. This is when cranial sutures begin to fuse prematurely. Sagittal synostosis is the most common form and occurs in 1 in 2000 births, even today.
By Foerster's own admission, he claims that 95% of the skulls he has seen don't have any unusual features. The claim that 5% have unusual cranial suturing I'm sure isn't mathematically arrived at. If so, I'd like to see the actual numbers.
That being said, I would like to see a study on how cradle-boarding affects the members of that population who did suffer from Craniosynostosis.
We also see evidence of paracas skulls that have been subjected to trepanation (pic related). This is an ancient practice of drilling holes in the cranium to reveal pressure on the brain. Craniosynostosis is a known cause of such pressure. It seems obvious that periodically, members of a society that practice cranial modification are going to encounter instances when that activity may cause pressure on the brain. What are the possible combined effects of Craniosynostosis and skull modification?
It doesn't seem likely that we will get answers to these kinds of questions from Brien Foerster or David Hatcher Childress or L.A. Marzulli. They are all Ancient Aliens "researchers". Which is to say, they are looking for evidence of alien-human hybrids (nephilim) and as a result, are not interested in actual science. They are not scientists and don't follow scientific procedures in how they handle these materials or in how they obtain specimens. Even grave robbing and looting is fine with Foerster. In fact, he encourages the destruction of archeological sites by buying skulls from looters.
>>17566211
>How are they going to quarry capping and facial stones that weigh tons off the top, and all the way down
People would climb the piramids, cut off smaller pieces of stone, and carry them back down. If someone managed to get it all the way up, then of course you can bring it back down
>>17566342
This is quick reply dude. I have other shit to do tonight, but I'd like to see this discussion continue.
>Sagittal synostosis is the most common form and occurs in 1 in 2000 births, even today.
Okay, but why the concentration of examples there though? Because they were popping out of the ground so readily? And why the 20% greater cranium volume than a normal human skull? Still warrents a look, no?
>That being said, I would like to see a study on how cradle-boarding affects the members of that population who did suffer from Craniosynostosis.
You and me both.
>What are the possible combined effects of Craniosynostosis and skull modification?
Noted, meaning me too. I would like to see a thread on this topic keep going. I will look into it.
That last bit is absolutely incorrect. Childress is a dancing clown, I agree. Marzuli is... his own Jesus-animal, I'd say out of the three Foerster is merely guilty of trying to sell his tours. He buys into the weirdness the least readily.
Example: It was Foerster's idea to fill those oddly non-sutured skulls with rice, then pour it back out, to get the cranial volume measurements. Marzuli just kind of looked on like a highschool student.
>>17566559
>cut off smaller pieces of stone, and carry them >back down. If someone managed to get it all the way up, then of course you can bring it back down
How old are you? 12? My 14yr old nephew has a better understanding of physics. Jesus Christ.
What are they cutting the brilliant white (white marble maybe), what are they cutting it with and how are they just.... describe the process.
>>17566325
>brien forester is a scamming shit merchant who pays poor people to rob graves. so pathetic. grow up people.
Respect them by fucking ignoring them? Or finding out who they were and actually honoring them. Nah, fuck those old fucks. Let them rot where they sit.
You're right, fuck it. Let's just stop studying everything. Fuck the entire world. Much better that way. Die now, will ya?
>>17566302
Okay man.
>>17566291
Stuff. Lots of limestone stuff.
>>17566761
that's not how you do science you stupid fuck.
>>17566211
kmet is the ancient Egyptian name of ancient Egypt.
The Sphinx is pretty cray, graham hancok said that shit was like 18,000 years old
>>17564812
https://nathandickey.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/demythologizing-the-giant-stone-boxes-of-egypt/
>>17566995
You're right. Shut it down. Fuck everything.
>>17567025
No. Kehmit in egyptian means "black earth", basically describes the Nile's delta. A fertile crescent. From here we slingshot to muslims and christians. Fuck that road most of all.
My pic too sciency? What a fucking bummer.
>>17567111
Nice trips Akhenaten.
Good to see you're ready to contribute something.
>>17566211
.... your short sighting this thing with our tiny concept of eons here.....your statement about inheriting the monuments from a previous culture are bang on.... the outer limestone was indeed recycled. after it was blasted off by a cataclysmic event beyond your wildest dreams....... your not taking into consideration how fucking old these things are... your damn right something happened. the reaction either went out of control , or the there was an outside event that impeded the process.... .... (cough unnatural pole shift due to solar system wide calamity from the destruction of Tiamat, phaeton, marduk , satan, whatever you want to name it.....there was a planet between mars and jupiter ... bodes law , comparative mythology screams it in our faces, and basic observation of the ciper belt corroberate this) ....if you look at the area like hakim says , its similar to other ancient sacred sites like puma punku or mohenjo daaro....its as if a kid in a sandcastle bent it over and gave it the fucking of its life....the entire world over if due to induced pole shft. which is talked of in numerous cultures ., human genetic baseline says the population was brought down to about 400 total . we ;ost everything....again....fml ..... and in come druidic religious paradigm to heal the planet and start all over.
>>17568025
>Tiny concept of eons.....
What on earth are you babbling about?
>Cataclysmic event
Never said a thing about it, you're projecting.
>unnatural pole shift due to solar system wide calamity from the destruction of Tiamat
Dude, there are meds for this. Do I think pole shifts happen? YUP. We've watched them happen on other planets and our own is moving approx 40miles/yr. Pretty telling were in for a shift. Pretty natural stuff though, doesn't equate with armagehdon stuff.
>There was another planet
You bet your ass there was another planet. That fucking belt revolving the sun out there.... yep no questions as to that. The physics are boggling.
>human genetic baseline says the population was brought down to about 400 total
Dude, get some meds, baseline/bottleneck genes poop out of a poulation of approx 50,000. Did our numbers shrink down? YUP. 400 is an absurd estimate.
>>17568025
>Your not taking into consideration howold these things are....
Yes I very much am. These things were sitting there long before the Egyptians even considered themselves a culture. There is too much repurposed shit sitting there on Giza. Why Egyptologists are reluctant to give up the goods I think plays into how much money they stood to make off of it. Tourism forever, very African.
I give you: Zahi Hawass. He is clearly a shitbag, and sheds light on what may be going on there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahi_Hawass
And his hoopy-doopy ideas, or version of english.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ziu2ygE_Wc
I am new to /x/ but seriously. Really?
Are the Aztec pyramids related to the Egyptians ones?
>>17568222
>get some mets get some meds get some meds
>>17566211
wow they let you touch the sphinx? Dam dude, that's so fucking cool. I wish Egypt was safe so I could visit it one day. One of my dreams to see these structures up close, being able to get up close to thousands of years of human civilization. Stunning.
>>17567904
your psychic abilities are busted, because that isn't my post.
>>17568280
yes, and yes.
the egyptians themselves tell of a prior high civilization that came well before themselves, both in stone hieroglyphs and at least one surviving papyrus.
as another anon pointed out already, the osirion is a good place to start looking.
>>17568336
that is a good question, and nobody really knows for sure, although it does seem possible considering the similarity of building choices of ancient egypt and mesoamerica.
just one example is the layout of giza and teotihuacan
>>17568425
Jesus Christ /x/ take a deep breath of air. I'm here from /pol/. The shit you are swallowing is tantamount to porn. The stuff you are interested in is fucking gold. This is important stuff. Plz keep on, but for god's sake take it easy. Please.
>>17568451
>I'm here from /pol/.
shit, we're gonna get it now
>>17568451
im not sure exactly what you are trying to convey here.
>pic related
>>17566576
Except when you do a proper volume analysis it shows the number Foerster reached was just plain wrong.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236104600
>>17568425
>both in stone hieroglyphs and at least one surviving papyrus.
Which hieroglyphs? Which papyrus?
>>17568425
http://www.antiquityofman.com/Krupp_refutes_Bauval_and_Roy.html
>>17568539
start with the palermo stone and the turin papyrus.
what is with you people not being able to look anything up yourselves?
does mommy still wipe your ass too?
>>17563842
their tombs
>>17568545
any fool can see that whether orion truly comes into play or not, there are at least three ancient sites (xian, giza, teotihuacan) that have a nearly identical layout.
im not positing a correlation to orion, and should have probably stated so, but those were the most convenient images that showed the similarities.
>>17568552
>their tombs
>they're tombs
>opinion discarded
>>17568539
in 1907, Mallaby Firth discovered a hand carved ostrich egg in 'tomb 96' that depicts the giza complex on it.
the human remains in this tomb were dated to 7000bc, which would make the egg found in the still sealed tomb out to be 1500 years older than the 4500bc construction date that archeologists favor for the great pyramid.
so unless the person who carved that egg was a precognizant, that means the pyramids at giza were already in existence at the time of the carving.
>>17568600
>lowcognitiveabilitythepost.jpg
>>17568609
Don't ignore the link.
http://garryshawegypt.blogspot.com/2014/11/16-reasons-why-egypts-pyramids-were.html
i was not referencing simply a magnetic pole shift. im talking a physical one.... axial wobble is a relatively new thing,..... with the collective stress placed on us over the generations and doing what we had to do to survive, humanity descended back into barbarism. the ego took the dominant position over the self in the ordinance of our conciousness a mirror image of the physical trauma of our planet. the resulting chaos raining down on us from the heavens during this event is the root of the judeo christian paradigm referred to as satans fall from heaven sea levels rose 100 feet covering everything up over time.......Tiamat was covered in water, making it visible by day, it competed so to speak for our attention and was a rival of the lord. (our sun faggots) ..... It literally fell from heaven. comparative mythology is tits..... checkem.....im not the best at getting this Across in text. hit up The work of Micheal Tsarions origins and oracles series.... this assertive irish badass sits there for 30 hours powepointing his references as he goes and tetrisizes the lifes work of a Zillion scholars and historical figures like a boss. his work literally changed my life and gave me a lot of answers that just felt right.... alien visitation and genetic maniupulation to matriarchal goddes tradition , irish origins of aryan civilization, origins of evil, alternative plausable referenced alternative theories to our history, subversive use of sacred symbolism, elements of control , grass roots solutions to the human shitstorm that is out history...... oh and he also pretty much purified and put the tarot back into proper order for those super witchy divination feels...... hes the shit. and he hates muslims. so theres that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSNV5m-qOAg
if your unfamiliar with this 8 part series of the esoteric and hermetic /magical aspects of early dynasty egypt you need to see this......too many amazing ball draining revelations to even list. . Shwaller de lubicsz , sacred science, DEEP .... i have major feels for this series as well.
>>17563842
Very impressive but an internal ramp structure has already been discovered and is widely considered to be the explanation for its building, especially considering accompanying records found in the graves of pyramid builders which show them building the pyramid
>>17564999
yes we are sure because Egyptians were pretty anal about dating and they wrote shit everywhere, both in papyrus and on the walls or tablets
that plus carbon dating and dating the type of goods within the graves nearby or the type of writing used.
>>17566639
I fail too see how the idea of people cutting off stone and carrying it back down is so hard to picture
>>17568753
its scavenging. humans have been doing that shit for long time. why do the work when you dont have to.... you can still see the remnants of the casing stones on a few of the bigger ones near the top.
>>17566639
they cut stone using rock hammers and copper picks plus pressured water to blast it away
then once it was cut it was smoothed extensively until you got that nice angular surface
also marble is a form of limestone and not that hard to carve
>>17563851
The proper term is nounhomosexual, your choice of words is highly problematic , shitlord
>>17567111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Km_(hieroglyph)
>>17568603
or...
what's depicted on the egg isn't pyramids and a map of egypt... LOL.
the "map of the nile river valley" looks suspiciously like the outline of an ostrich.. drawn on an ostrich egg.. what are the chances?
the three triangles could be mountains or just geometric design. what are the chances?
i guess if you're a ufologist and an ancient aliens cultist, there can only be one answer...
>>17568549
>the turin papyrus
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turin_Erotic_Papyrus
>"It has been dubbed 'the world's first mens' mag'"
>"The text appears to have been hastily written in the margins and would seem to express enjoyment and delight:
"... come behind me with your love, Oh! Sun, you have found out my heart, it is agreeable work..."'"
>"the men depicted on the papyrus are "scruffy, balding, short, and paunchy" with exaggeratedly large genitalia."
>>17563842
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCK99mQUxw
no need for "fallen angels" when there is an excellent theory by an actual architect, not a mouth-breather who grew up watching ufo videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9C3rob_cTA&list=PL98FD528F107494A7&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTgxGJfXRQ0&index=2&list=PL98FD528F107494A7&nohtml5=False
>>17565634
more hucksters with no background in archeology, anthropology, or any other branch of science, selling "free energy" and crystals at "consciousness expos"...
try reading a book that doesnt have an embossed cover with a pyramid on it.
>>17566256
>This is /x/ so I expect open minds here.
>minds so open their brains fall out.
always expect low IQs
>>17568943
>always expect low IQs
Yes, there are a lot of trolls on /x/
>>17568614
well, im certainly not ignoring the fact that bullshit got deleted.
or did someone remove it themselves out of shame?
>>17568779
but anon, that's too humorous to be true!
are you pulling my leg?
>>17568804
you are supremely retarded.
>ostrich confirmed guise
>ass
>hole in ground
>not knowing difference
>>17568816
>ignoring the king's list just for laughs
kill yourself
I haven't read the whole thread yet, so sorry in advance if what I'm about to say was already mentioned.
Are you guys familiar with Davidovits theory ? (his website davidovits.info/english/ ) According to him the stones used to build the pyramids are artificial. The egyptians gathered the minerals and mixed them together into a liquid, molded them at the wanted location and just let the stone solidify. It actually makes a lot of sense, archeological researches also found jars that could have been designed for this purpose.
here's also a video that sums it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKO0owKn2PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxgHeh9Mlrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Lqu0nKZD8
I wonder what was found in the temple under the pedestal of the sphinx.
>>17564752
this is fucking retarded
Didn't they find hidden chambers in the pyramids recently? Any news about that?
>>17568804
Good call, anon.
>>17569083
>you are supremely retarded
Shill harder.
>>17569229
This is what I want to know
>>17569229
http://news.discovery.com/history/ancient-egypt/radar-finds-secret-chamber-in-king-tuts-tomb-151128.htm
>>17568775
Mohs hardness scale says copper cannot carve granite and certain kinds of limestone. How did they pressurize the water?
>>17569194
This is crazy how the fuck did they carve those stones that are 5500 years old - the cutting looks like it was done with a laser
>>17568732
If you find any value in the Magic of Egypt, your mind is a ruin
>>17566211
>My gut tells me that Egyptian culture found the great pyramids and simply set up shop
The very first Pyramid of of Egypt is the Step Pyramid of Djoser (2670 BC).
As time went on the building process was more refined and eventually perfected at the Giza plateau. Now as time went on more were built but lacked in the scale and quality of those at Giza (2589 BC) and Snofru's Red Pyramid (2612 BC) because of the change in Egyptian culture.
>"I built this shit in 20yrs. No seriously, I did."
But they did, the Great Pyramid that is. All of them took around 80 odd years to construct.
That Sphinx rain erosion is bullshit too. The Sphinx is built with 3 types of limestone, the strongest being the top and bottom of the structure. The main source of erosion was wind, water run off was a factor not rain fall.
>>17563842
I have to get some work done today and needed some interesting videos to distract me from the pain.
It's hard to find interesting new stuff though sometimes, so thanks for the links OP
>>17569828
could be a few explanations:
>Cyclical History.
The stones are actually something like 50,000 years old or more. We currently think humans emerge 200,000 to 150,000 thousand years ago. We don't know what happens from 150,000 BCE to 15,000 BCE (Gobekli Tepe) except primitive humans with no civilization or metal working. And we definitely don't accept modern humans (or any other intelligent beings) existing before this rough and forgotten time period.
>Unknown Primitive Method.
Using fire to heat the stone, water to rapidly cool it and increasingly finer stone tools to knap away at it, until you are basically sandpapering the surface of the stone. Perhaps some acidic coating which ate through the stone and also sealed and protected it was used as a final polishing agent.
>Acoustic or Vibration.
It's clear the original builder's knew a lot about sound, harmonics, resonance and acoustics. The incredible precision involved in the building seems to fit with this line of thinking. It is possible to get the same results with vibrating cutting tools.
Archaeology is not a particularly advanced or exact science. It's also very slow and meticulous. As far as I know, nobody has done a temperature differential scan inside any of the temples or pyramids and it's only last year that this went public:
>Egypt pyramids scan finds mystery heat spots
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34773856
So the original builders understood heat and sound to a degree we need very modern equipment to measure and appreciate. Or it's all a big coincidence.
>>17569815
Cutting is trivial, just use sand embedded in a metal. Diamond tipped tools are manufactured in a similar way. You didn't think it was literal diamonds being used as a cutting head did you?
As for splitting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jrM5tlkZw
yeah, not that hard
>>17563842
It's funny that you mention rivers of mercury in the Egyptian pyramids because the ancient Chinese pyramids, especially Qin Shi Huangdi's, are known for containing "rivers of mercury". Very strange how many similarities there are with many ancient cultures and their pyramids.
>>17570202
The problem is that they can't have gotten to anywhere near our current day level of technology, or even to around the Renaissance level, without leaving massive traces in the very soil they inhabited. If you demolished any major city and waited a million years, the soil in that location would have very unique traces containing multiple artificial compounds and metal compositions.
The vibration thing just doesn't stack up, you can't get that much workable energy out of a pair of human lungs. Vibrating tools today use a rotary electric motor with a gearing system that translates it to side to side movement.
Here's a closeup of the inside of one if you want to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxFn96XjOI&t=3m22s
>>17569522
holeup cat, i shat in your hat
you call me a shill
but i did it for free
>>17570321
yah bro I'm sure they hit them granite slabs with their steel sledge hammers wtf
>>17570610
>guy clearly says weight is the important part
>thinking mohs hardness scale applies on impacts
>>17570440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsqOLCXYznE
around 1:47 he shows how a copper tube can cut stone. Sorry I thought this video was already in the thread.
You can get the same results with a circular copper tube, sand and a lot of patience twisting it.
I've been looking at Fire-setting too since I made my post:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-setting
They may have also drilled guide holes with copper rods/tubes and grit sand. Then feathers and wedges are hit to slowly pry apart and split massive blocks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEgN_lntVZU
This still leaves the acoustic properties of the pyramids unexplained. And why a lot of the stone work looks similar to the megalithic structures in Peru.
Cities also tend to be built on top of one another, and as far as I know nobody has dug deep in the relevant places we are discussing in Egypt, they stopped at the first and topmost discoveries, started cataloguing, dug deeper slowly and carefully. With respect to material traces in soil, it really depends on what materials they used for construction and how much sand has been stacked up on top. The Sphinx was buried up to it's neck for a long time. There is no reason to believe there is nothing under it that was also buried.
If say a civilization falls due to some cataclysm, you are right that the rubble would be evident. but what if the rubble gets broken down and carried away and re-used for other construction. Some structures might survive, but the survivors will eventually use whatever they can to rebuild their own civilization around it. Now fast forward tens of thousands of years and you have this curious mixture of ancient structures that survived and more recent structures built around them out of the rubble.
The static view of history does not account for human interaction over time. If the Nile Delta region has been inhabited for at least 100,000 years, it is possible that a far older unknown civilization built some of the structures.
>>17568732
Can you elaborate on that image? What am I looking at?
>>17570673
Interestingly, I have been to teotihuacan and the buildings outside the pyramid of the Moon are designed to produce the sound of the qatzl bird when procession sound is echoed off them. This reminded me of the resonance aspect of the grand gallery people are talking about.
>>17570321
It is literal diamond, just small diamonds. An alternating saw design could do it, but how did they move the stones?
>>17571359
I like that flotation idea that guy had- they tied cedar planks to the stones with papyrus reeds and floated them to the pyramid.
>>17568742
What records? They never found any pharaoh bodies in any of the 3 main pyramids.
>>17571371
http://www.livescience.com/45285-how-egyptians-moved-pyramid-stones.html
They might have used land sleds over wet sand. There is an image ITT of precisely that.
>>17571359
particulate diamond sand essentially
>>17571430
It's little stuff like this that keeps me fascinated by this whole case. They were obviously incredibly efficient by figuring out stuff like this.
Around 450 BC the Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt and asked the locals how they built the pyramids. They told him with ramps.
Herodotus is the closest thing we have to a trained historian making an attempt to record how it was done by an outsider at a date nearer to the pyramids' building time than any other historian. I think we have to give his report some credence, he was right there talking to the locals in 450BC!
http://www.unmuseum.org/kpyramid.htm
tl:Dr Ramps, humans used ramps.
>>17571532
Human intelligence hasn't really increased too much. We just got good at writing shit down, finding out the basis for processes, and teaching newer generations.
>>17570202
Oh shoot, what if the excess heat is being generated by nuclear decay???
>>17571540
There's no way they would know for sure in 450 BC that's still 2000 years later. It would be going to some dude on the street in Rome and asking how they built the coliseum. He wouldn't know.
>>17571555
By your logic WE right now couldn't know anything about the past.
>>17571555
>It would be going to some dude on the street in Rome and asking how they built the coliseum. He wouldn't know.
You really don't think the Romans knew how the coliseum was built?!? The Romans were building things constantly - aqueducts, roads, temples. A local would have to be blind and bed-bound their whole life to not have a clue how the coliseum was made.
>>17571567
>>17571556
It's almost as if ... Gasp... No one knows how the pyramids were built!!
>>17571606
No, it's like loons discarding every explanation of how the pyramids could have been built because it's part of some sappy mystical world view of theirs to think it's an unsolvable mystery of how people moved some rocks around.
>>17571617
The Giza platue and necropolis complex is rather a complicated case. It's definitely more mysterious than you imply. Also lol they moved some stones lmao is pretty pathetic, the actual nature of the construction is so elaborate, so precise, so mystyfing, that new details are still emerging after 5000 years.
>>17571637
As with all things, yes.
>>17571617
We couldn't even build the pyramids of Giza with the technology we have today which makes it so interesting. Archeologists are not engineers, and when engineers, architects and professionals in building technology examine pyramid structure, it's evident that what Egyptologists proclaim about the construction of the pyramids cannot be true.
>>17571905
We could though
>>17571905
Uh, what?
If some fucking goatfuckers could build it, pretty damn sure we could build it and make it 50 times as big.
>>17571932
We would build it with lighter, smaller materials, but we sure as hell ain't quarrying the earth for 80+ ton 'bricks'.
>>17571966
Yeah, because we can do it better. We can do it more efficiently than they could.
>>17571966
I really hate this meme that we could not do it. We can but it would cost a fortune, a fortune which no one want to spend on it becuse what use is a pyramid anyway?
>>17571976
Not true! Money aside, there are groups that have experimented with replicatig the pyramids on a smaller scale, and failed. Just because you *think* we could do it now because it's thousands of years later does not make it true.
>>17563842
Im glad i mentioned mercury channels last thread I got alot more info on that theory than I thought I would, pyramid of the feathered serpent also has some weird mercury river stuff going on
>>17571996
We pretty much know how they were built. The people that tried to build a smaller scale were inept. Just some reading, there are a lot more though.
Fitchen, “Building Cheops’ Pyramid” – Journal of the Society of Architectural Historians, Vol. 37, No. 1 (Mar., 1978), pp. 3-12
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/FitchenPyramid.pdf
Isler, “On Pyramid Building” (Part 1) – Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, Vol. 22 (1985), pp. 129-142
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/IslerPyramids1.pdf
Isler, “On Pyramid Building” (Part 2) – Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, Vol. 24 (1987), pp. 95-112
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/IslerPyramids2.pdf
Lally, “Engineering a Pyramid” – Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, Vol. 26 (1989), pp. 207-218
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/LallyPyramid.pdf
Isler, “Egyptian Methods of Raising Weights” – Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, Vol. 13 (1976), pp. 31-42
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/IslerEgyptianMethodsRaisingWeights.pdf
Isler, “An Ancient Method of Finding and Extending Direction” – Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, Vol. 26 (1989), pp. 191-206
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/IslerMethodOfFindingExtendingDirection.pdf
Another link showing a man moving stones without powertools, while not directly linked to pyramids it shows that it is possible to move large stones without powertools. There really is no need for that in constructing the pyramids today though as we could just use cranes,
I mean damn, it’s even hard to imagine ever being able to pull together the resources, power, money, skilled craftsmen, and architects needed to build one of the great gothic cathedrals in this day and age.
Does that mean we can not build great gothic cathedrals today? No, it just mean that we have priorities elsewhere.
>>17571996
http://io9.gizmodo.com/magnificent-buildings-that-look-like-ancient-egyptian-p-484111345
>>17572030
Forgot the last link.
http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/
>>17570095
You are so fucking retarded and don't know what you're taking about. Learn to be more open minded and read a book. Either way don't bother us anymore, some of us are actually after the truth...
>>17564803
Alright we just need some bolt cutters a couple of reef blowers and some torches and we can do this shit, also last video the bumps on bottoms of the tiny pyramids not being consistent has anyone ever considered maybw they harvested older pyramids or used off cut to makes smaller training pyramids
>>17564737
The fact they arent older, they are like a copycat that has the basic idea down but not all of the skill
>>17572103
provide scholarly evidence that they're not older
YouTube is not a scholarly source
>>17566211
Sentient dinos built them when the continents were still pangeia
>>17566211
Wait..wait...wait ao you are telling me its possible to crawl into the sphinxs asshole and swim around?
>this totally isnt my new fetish
>>17569104
I have always wondered this, like they knew some way to liquefy the stone or pour a liquid mixture that would harden like stone
>>17572135
I am also intrigued with said butt tunnel
>>17563842
What if they're arrows pointing upwards? As if the ancient civilizations were telling us to look up at the eye, that is the sun? I was just thinking about this. Yes, they could have easily written it down for us, but what if this is the best way?
>>17572372
Why were pyramids even used on the dollar? Do they know what they are meant for? I don't get it why anyone would use a pyramid if no one knows what they were used for.
>>17572632
Eventually this explains everything.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KMhkf5mAGgA
>>17572671
You really expect us to watch over two hours worth of that
>>17571905
Any modern building, made of steel reinforced concrete, glass, electrical wiring, indoor plumbing, firewalls, carpeting, drywall, pools, kitchens, etc. is far more complex and precise than anything from ancient egypt.
As far as moving large blocks around, that's trivial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4
>>17573287
This building used to be Gold and reflective just like the pyramids but it kept dazzling pilots so they changed it. Gives you a clue as to why the Giza pyramids had there reflective coating removed
>>17573287
A lot of these videos actually have engineers or architects saying that even their best work is less precise than the pyramids.
Are they lying? I don't know.
The egyptians spent a lot of time on it though so it's not surprising that they would be more precise, if they had the capability. (If they had the capability being the question which leads to all the strange theories)
Personally I've always thought they had some very clever techniques (and maybe even some slightly more advanced tools than we expect) like what your video shows. I'm sure they did things in ways we still haven't thought of yet which makes it seem miraculous. For example I don't think any of our current theories about how they cut the stones is right yet.
>>17573287
That's the point though: we couldn't have made Luxor out of stone bricks. Sure it's easy to build when you can just fabricate some steel and through some glass on it.
>>17568367
That will be pretty difficult to do, considering they aren't real.
>>17573287
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4
This dude is not moving anything nearly as large as one of the great pyramid stones lol. Maybe for the smaller pyramids but not the great pyramid.
>>17571541
What if human intelligence decreased? Just a thought - what if we created the pyramids with telekenesis? And, when we developed writing/language, we lost that ability... could be possible
>>17573715
Are you fucking retarded? Why don't you build your own Luxor then?
>>17573715
We could have though. We used steel and glass because it's a more efficient design and it fucking looks so much better.
>>17574513
But which will still be standing in 5000 years???
>>17574204
That video was pretty cool
>>17568336
Yes, please look up Khemitology on YT and watch videos with that old Egyptian guardian of knowledge (forgot his name, rip).
>>17567037
there is not a single argument in this entire article or any explanation as to how they would have created the boxes. it's literally just 'well i think humans did it, so there'
Opinions-
We all have them.
Aren't they great!
>>17577141
Opinions suck dude. Imagine if there were none? All we'd have are facts and shit would be so easy.
>>17576859
explain these boxes more
>>17577226
or explain them at all.
how the fuck did they make these? if it were obsidian I could understand
>>17568467
>>Barnard's Loop
Don't forget Tillman's crest and Undiscovered Worlds
>>17563851
Cockfaggot imo
>>17566039
The "capstone" was probably golden foil over a normal stone, if such a thing even existed. It would take a retarded amount of gold to make a sizeable enough capstone.
>>17568367
Gotta go soon before the mudslimes blow the pyramids up in another attempt to rid the world of "heretical" monuments
>>17571411
See now bub, the pharaohs didn't build the pyramids, the architects and workers did.
>>17572168
Humanity has been making forms of concrete for at least 2000 years, why not earlier? It's entirely possible that it's some sort of limestone based concrete.
>>17571976
Most modern engineering firms would not be able to move those giant granite blocks in a single piece and if they could they would use technology that is supposed to be way beyond what was available to the Egyptians.
It's why I think the granite megaliths may have been poured like concrete and allowed to set. The tops are uneven while the 3 sides are perfectly flat, just like a modern concrete pour.
I'm interested in seeing the down and side vectors of 2.5-6 ton limestone blocks in relation to wooden ramps held together by nails and maybe rope or putty. It would be a pretty solid wooden ramp to hold that kind of weight while some people dragged the stones into place. Probably dragged them atop wet sand to reduce friction and sideways force.
>>17572030
What about the granite megaliths that were lifted that high? Rocked back and forth and slowly raised like that YouTube video? Can wood handle a megalith of that weight? It's easy to show it being done on a small scale because the wood can resist the down force of a much lighter rock.
>>17573715
in fact, they could have made luxor out of bricks, but then the paying guests wouldn't have windows to look out of.
>>17574204
He's doing it entirely by himself, and he's not using any muscles, just simple tools. The exact same principles apply to stones of any size.
>>17580548
Because concrete and limestone are two different things? Furthermore, in concrete there's evidence of having been poured. Mold lines, and such. Whereas with the pyramids you literally have the quarries where you can clearly see the stones were carved from, including many that are only half finished.
>>17571932
That's not the Egyptians that's the persians. They even retreated from battles when they let cats and dogs loose to get killed nice try... Back to /pol/
Besides the fact it's proven no-one else can make this
