What in the world happened to Lisanne Froon and Kris Kremers?
Two dumb bitches get lost, starve to death and then remains are ate by a passing animal. Simple.
they got lost in the wilderness and decided to travel in the dark instead of staying put and waiting till dawn.
You can tell from the pictures recovered from their camera that they used the flash to see where they were going. Many pictures contained images of the edge of a cliff.
>>17721759
>are ate
wut?
were these the two cunts that took a south american advanced trail in the wilderness in booty shorts with no gear to take facebook profile pics?
>>17723468
Yup
Poor girls. Can't imagine how I'd feel in that scenario.
>>17721659
Yea, it really isn't a mystery.
>>17721659
Two sheltered white girls decide to explore the South American wilderness on daddy's credit card with no gear and no survival experience and end up way over their head. Reminds me of the white girls from Europe who decided to piss their parents off and runaway and join ISIS where they end up as sex slaves for goat fuckers. I have little sympathy for those without foresight.
>>17723651
Yeah right. That never happened.
>>17723661
http://nypost.com/2014/10/10/pregnant-teen-girls-who-joined-isis-weve-made-a-huge-mistake/
It happened.
I've been in the jungle in central america. Mother nature is the real deal. What country were they in?
Seriously? No one's gonna say it? Very well, GOATMEN/SKINWALKER
>>17723683
Panama.
They thought their iPhones were enough to survive. Probably eaten by a jaguar or something.
>>17723693
Correct.
They now walk in the skin of each other. It's one of those "Parent Trap" style switches.
>>17723520
I'd be all "uh-oh".
>>17723108
>wut?
What?
>>17723730
WHUT
>>17723698
That's a shame. The one on the left is a total babe.
>>17723747
The one on the right is kinda "maybe".
>>17721659
I find the photos creepy even if there's not much to the mystery
>>17723764
This one could be the result of hearing something rustling around in the bushes down the edge of the rock and the frightened girls(or girl) using the flash to catch a glimpse of it or attempt to scare it away
>>17723768
I can't even think of an explanation for this one, other than the girls being delusional and hysterical and attempting to start a fire with what little the had.
>>17723754
I wouldn't work for it. Let's just put it that way.
>>17723764
I don't know if I have glaucoma, but what is supposed to be circled?
>>17723814
I think it's just a leaf in the shadows. The photo is from reddit.
>>17723805
Maybe they thought they could wave it in a clearing to attract attention from helicopters etc.
>>17721659
It's still a mystery why they went so far into the wilderness. I don't get it.
I think the locals who live in the forest raped and murdered them. They were pretty too. Even if they were lost from the start. They still had the same chance of getting raped and murdered by people who found and helped them.
It's a mystery, oh, it's a mystery
I'm still searching for a clue
>>17721659
>2 dutch qt's get lost in the panama jungle
>walk around with too much skin showing
>pic related
>come across group of local inbreds
>hellothere.jpg
>girls get taken hostage and group fucked by locals for 2 weeks
>instead of letting them go and taking a risk locals smash girls heads in with rocks
>animals eat fresh corpses
>foot still in boot
>>17724284
This picture was taken from Kris' phone 8 days after the girls first 911 call.
>>17724307
the first time i saw the pictures they took after they went missing i was unsettled
they aren't exactly scary but in the context they've been taken they are, for some reason, very disturbing
>>17724284
post tits
Unfortunately they're probably human condoms at this point.
>>17724284
Hills have eyes anyone?
>>17721659
>tfw you will never caress pale ginger waifu ;_;
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>>17723768
Some animal probably took these. I imagine they were chewing on the phone or something.
Or who knows, maybe some deformed humanoid creature was playing with it.
Interesting blog on the story from a Panamanian local:
mostlymystery.com/missing-in-panama-a-mystery-deepens-2/
Interesting replies too:
"Could you please tell me the name of the hostel and what happened to the girl. A friend of my daughter’s was staying at a hostel in boquete and was kidnapped and drugged. 8 months later and he still remains at home. He suffered memory loss which caused him to fear his father, and couldn’t come home for some time because of seizures. Others in the hospital he was at had been taken for human trafficking and he was taken by the same people. I’m interested because of the way his school (it was a school mission trip) and the travel company are portraying the situation, at least in the paper. If you can respond, could it please be to my email? Thank you."
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Anther reply:
"The fingerprints on record with the Panamanian police, indicating a previous criminal record and the 2 bras and pairs of sunglasses in the backpack that have never gotten wet. All too neat and tidy next to a human pelvis. It just doesn’t feel right to me. Also the first attempt to reach 911 and the Dutch emergency number only two hours down the trail on a sunny clear day and an easy trail is off as is the timeline for later calls and photos. Too much time passes unless they were held somewhere and then released with no trail to follow, It just doesn’t “feel” right. This experienced old psychic smells a skunk."
>>17726018
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Another reply:
:There is another person missing now. As of Tuesday May 10th, 2016 My friend Cristiano Zeviani who is originally from Italy, disappeared as he was supposedly going to show some of his land to a potential buyer. The land is in Dolega, Chiriqui Province and lies next to the fast running El Caño de Dolega, a watershed thats used for potable water. Cristiano was driving a black Mitsubishi L200, double cabin.
Cristiano is 48 years old, bald, has brown eyes, is build normal, measures around 180 centimetres or 5.10 .
We are now coordinating search parties and his mother and business partner are coming form Italy to put pressure on the search.
Any information is very welcome. Cristianos family and friends want him back in good health!"
Plus:
"And then there is something else: the 12 Dutch sniffer dogs never sniffed the spot where the last normal photo of Kris was taken, that is situated 1 hour beyond the mirador of the pianista trail. They followed the orders not to proceed beyond the mirador. The reason was that at that time, everybody assumed that the girls could never have crossed the Cordillera. So why search any further?
Twelve Dutch dogs, 18 of their Dutch trainers, travelled all the way from Holland. But they only reached the mirador and then they turned back."
>>17726031
An interesting set of circumstances. Definitely more than meets the eye. Plus, I for one believe that those dark photos ten days later were probably taken so they could use the flash as a sign for help. Either that, or there was a third person trying to use the camera. Interesting to note the phone was attempted access with a wrong pin.
Between when they first called for help (probably for a sprained ankle or broken limb), and when those eerie photos were taken, I instinctively believe that they encountered some malevolent characters in their trouble.
Creepsville.
>>17726055
I wamt that third picture that hasn't been released. Although, it's probably something with the girls naked or something. The families refuse to release it, and we know there are images in it.
Official stance is that they fell off a ledge.
http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/03/04/kris-lisanne-likely-fell-off-cliff-panama-investigators/
It's probably just the authorities trying to give some sort of answer. It contradicts everything they said before about no trauma on the remains and ignores that the bones were bleached by chemicals foreign to the soil.
Cali Roy, psychic:
"“I do not see that they died as a result of simply being lost in the jungle, there was foul play involved. I’m getting an O-M sounding name and an S sounding name. I don’t get them as a being very old, I get them as being young males, that perhaps covered up the circumstances. I do not see a premeditated occurrence. It happened as an opportunistic crime. The difficulty I see here is the length of time where the remains were found may yield little other evidence that could be of use, the passing was quick. I do not see the drawn out death by exposure, but see death caused by injuries to the neck.”
>>17726122
Post:
"Startling to read that there still are posters here who never seem to ponder how it is that self proclaimed super scout and guide Baru "who has been living in the area, was a Pianista Duran trail specialist, was a guide for over 30 years, and yadijadijada" never was able to find the exact spot where both girl alledgedly fell into a ravine, in a stone dry environment. Nor could make any difference helping out the parents, volunteers, Red Cross, Army troops, Senafront or Sinaproc, in finding the girls bodies.
Yet, when there were remains to be found, in comes a famous guide and his team, and finds 28 bones out of 412, and sure enough when the parents K came to Panama, new bones were found. How handy.
This whole "disappearance" and 'getting lost' case is a sham, a ly, a cock-up."
Response:
"I cant remember Baru stating they must have slided into an enclosed riverbed in the area so-and-so. It was the duch last official expedition that stated this, after most of their planned search was hindered by presumably bad weather.
Much discussion was made on this subject, as you may know, But the leading duch investigator hmself stated that falling down a steep slope and being unable to reach the path was A possibility, fit for acceptance by the families, and that no proof of this happening was found, only the possibility. Neither was the location of the night pictures.
So in the end some scenarios are more probable than others, but none is proved.
And there is certainly no appartent reason for suggestions that local guides were somehow actively involved in the disappearance of the girls. We know that the most helpful was himself subjected to investigation. And came out unsuspected."
>>17726129
Second response:
"It seems someone is still missing the obvious point here: it all resolves around information. So forget about the one you are referring to if you so wish. It is of no importance anymore. But the unanswered questions do not evaporate.
How do you know where to look for remains in the end, when you could have made all the difference finding the girls, coming up with all your knowledge right in the beginning?
Especially bragging about your specialized knowledge to all who want to hear, when remains are brought to light, does not really help in such a case.
It raises suspicion."
Source:
websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?261629-Panama-Lisanne-Froon-22-amp-Kris-Kremers-21-Boquete-1-April-2014-7, page 47
Total speculation, yet interesting points to note.
>>17726139
What is interesting, however is that the taxi driver who taxid the girls to the hiking trail was found dead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pogz_3R9FEI
(interesting information translated by the narrator from Duth to English after the halfway mark)
Something doesn't add up... unfortunately we'll never know.
Just don't go hiking in the Panamanian jungle, unless you're sure you know what you're doing and who you're with.
Disappearance route, not in English:
youtube.com/watch?v=JWndBGcHnfo
>>17726148
>pelvis found
>"most likely no longer alive"
Who the fuck is this retard? He goes on to say "maybe wild animals ate the rest of them" like it's some kind of far fetched conspiracy theory. Fuckinghell 4chin.
>>17726309
Technically, she could still be an upper body that is being taken care of by her kidnapper.
With all this shit that's been going on in the past decade, I would say it is no longer a smart idea to go either to africa or south america as a white person. Especially if you go in the fucking bush.
Besides, even with my considerable hiking experience here in the cold north, fuck hiking in s. america, unkept and confusing trails with no trustworthy people anywhere around. Sure, some locals probably would be happy to host a foreigner, but there are as much, if not more people that just simply drug, kidnap and fucking murder you after keeping you in a shed and raping/torturing you for weeks.
>>17726354
That would take some serious medical expertise, which I doubt some junglebog has.
>>17726100
Is it possible they died somehow, THEN some sick fucks found the bodies, did shit to them?
>>17726390
I don't see why not other than it's believed that they died a week apart due to the cell phone.
It's believed than Lisaan had Kris's phone and was trying to unlock it to call for help.
Or maybe she wanted to take more pictures.
It amazes me that tourists go to these third world shithole countries. Panama is a hellhole. I had to go there for work once and got mugged in broad daylight in panama city. The fucking guy had an uzi like it was an episode of miami vice
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pants monster )-:
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