So what's the deal with the illuminati are they good, evil or morally neutral? Is wealth the only requirement to joining? What's the end goal for illuminati?
End goal: Keep us alive and stupid so they can steal our psychic energies
>>17663669
Yeah they want back to that Egyptian godking rulership, and the rest of the flock being indentured servants.
There's one thing I don't get though, why poison the planet?
>>17663664
>implying they are in control
the most scary ting is there is no one in control.
They tried to kill me so many times.. cause am Prince who was in rule of GCC country.. well..
When I studied in Australia, in RMIT University, I started doing English course in REW.
1st class, 1st teacher, tried to make me join illuminatis. I said no. Then the bullying and hatred started... I barely passed any subject.
They were too comfortable entering my home... searching my PC.. spying on me... etc...
Ways of illuminatis tried to kill me so far:
1. C4 explosion at road going through mountain.
2. C4 explosion while driving down mountain road.
3. Building detour where there is 0 traction road "can't brake" and there is huge speed hump that would make my car airborne into parked truck with RODS to severe me.
4. Sending divers to sink my boat while fishing.
5. Poison in my food.
6. People brake checking me while driving.
7. In Melbourne CITI link after Flegminton RD exit, all 5 lanes cars were stopped... not moving.. no brakes on.. and I come driving at 100 km/h and dodged the stopped car at near miss... just imagine it, it looked like cars were moving from far away but all of them were stopped... each row about 7 cars... I had to filter.
8. Oil in road or roundabouts when I drive at night.
9. In year 2012 while driving back from Dubai Global Village, I received a warning from an ally about illuminatis hiding at every road back to my town "Kalba"... I took Khalifa highway, apparently they send a spy "friend" to make me speed, take POV pictures through his BBM then tell me to adjust.. from far away I saw a huge metal pole looks like an F... it was supposed to hit my car at speed it would go through my body.. wtf.
>>17663677
The Jews are in control.
>>17663685
Wait what country?
This is too ridiculous to be fake, somehow, please tell us more. What did they tell you exactly?
>>17663689
this is the end times land , the world is ending since the romans and it will continue ending for a very long time.
>>17663664
>good, evil or morally neutral? Is wealth the only requirement to joining? What's the end goal for illuminati?
I believe there are 3 illuminatis. One is good, one is evil, and one is a fake, controlled by the good side to keep some of the evil prospects busy so they don't join the real evils.
Cont:
10. In -37.649946, 145.340029 while driving my GSX-R 600 K7 "I like driving fast.. late at night.. so that I don't hurt anyone but myself if I crash" they put a Kangaroo for me to crash into... luckily the bike steering damper worked and bounced the Kangaroo back to them.. one guy lost his leg and others in ICU.
11. They caused swanston ST wall collapse to kill me and 2 students cause they went to AFP to complain about PJ R of RMIT bullying me during lectures to join illuminatis.
12. RMIT made all my lectures like Katrina Neville and PJR, Brendan McGrath to make me fail..eventho I do well... lol.
13. illuminatis control Victoria Police and other authorities... I would be bullied by most of them there.
Imagine driving and being pulled over all the time?
Imagine illuminatis sending a faggot "Ahmad Almarashda.. google his name in images" to pour some substance on my flight seat... then customs dog comes and keeps smelling my butt for minutes?
What happened later?
All of them will die by terrorist attacks. If it didn't happen yet.
For 8 years I have been quite just observing those little illuminatis.
But if anyone want any names here are:
1. Yandy Liang "Lucifer whore.. wannabe Australia Queen and Taylor Swift best friend... she is tiny winy little bitch honestly.
2. Jamie Ong "wannabe realestate agent..."
3. Ken Lockhart "killed Paul Walker, he works in Victorian Motorcycle Wreckers".
4. Jeff "works in Ace Motorcycles.. killed a guy in Dubai assassination."
5. PJ R, Gandalf... likes doing goats... shit lecturer and staged an act where I would stab him -i usually pay people to do that- so that I strip naked and they black mail me to join illuminatis...
6. Juhayman "Lucifer"... or Akadawa.. whatever u wanna name him. Australians worship him lulz.
In the end, am happy I killed so many illuminatis. And so many will die. Cause $ to me is torturing Jews, and Sex to me is killing Jews.
Yes they tried bribing me 50T dollars.. and unlimited pussies lulz.
>>17663695
Why since the romans?
The end goal is the apocalypse.
Life's just a game, someones got to beat it.
>>17663719
Pretenders
>>17663685
best post of the year m8
>>17663689
Fuck off prince. I'd be very, very surprised if you fare any better than the loominaghty
My bike after they placed a Kangaroo to Tbon me :
https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/q82/p206x206/13001043_10153517318053263_1994443137258829972_n.jpg?oh=4c62579d75576188627f6aa4d2cbbc88&oe=57A73C90&__gda__=1474602381_f77d9de104a550fa82220f48799953b5
https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/q90/p206x206/12993449_10153517317978263_34958378863228526_n.jpg?oh=4a9a9f2d785b1c547ac064ba1680572a&oe=579BAEE4&__gda__=1470916937_6f42730e642e6169bc37c66e0670960b
A place where illuminatis in Australia "In Kingslake Park" where they torture people... placing them tied to the flat surface then kicking them until their head is busted by the shaft
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t31.0-8/1912361_10151995511883263_1441954723_o.jpg
First tutor who bullied me to join illuminatis, in RMIT English World Wide
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/408995_10150532774618263_1179489875_n.jpg?oh=056dd6b25383e1173f3e19f64ca3084e&oe=57DF8170&__gda__=1470807547_f4d35261588d916b2a09e9d459265d02
The main idea was, me being stupid... my -boys- or group, or intel, or army.. whatever u wanna name them.
Would be placing CCTV cameras around my home... at the end when I left Australia.. geez.. illuminatis were stalking me outside Australia cause they knew I would have evidence against them.
Yet... we collected all evidence. Nothing beats the videos of them entering my home talking outloud about my computer, running stupid "bypass windows password" to scan my PC... searching my home for Hard Drives.. or memory cards... geez.
Maybe they would use laws such as counter terrorism. But I think AFP, VicPol are controlled by the illuminatis.
So... I found out that telling all my allies it's better to get rid of them.
And sure we did..
Why I didn't want to know my intel or buddies are placing CCTV in my home?
Cause illuminatis use Black Magic... which involves talking to Qareen. Asking him anything.
>>17663731
who is this?
>>17663707
How serious are the conflicts between these sides then? Does it go as far a member of one branch killing a member of the other branch, and is this allowed?
>>17663691
only of the money
>>17663748
you don't know who this is?
>>17663738
is that supposed to be Obama? then the artist sucks and you couldn't recognize anyone. the boy could literally be me if that was the case, it looks like anyone
>>17663699
i am not mocking you
i am stating a fact
if you feel insult is your problem .
>>17663751
>>17663764
that's what I thought
>>17663738
Shock me awake
Tear me apart
Pinned like a note in a hospital gown
Prison of sleep
Deepened now
A rabbit hole never to be found
Again
>>17663705
Simon Magus was the first to say we live in a lllusion (simulation)
and since then we have end times cults and the like.
little has chance since Constantine.
>>17663738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg
>>17663759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JuxM-snGc
>>17663691
Mommy Jews
what does it all mean?
>>17663817
Do you know?
Or do you just think you know?
>>17663810
Certain events have been triggered within the Matrix, and now we are inside the cube simulation.
The simulation runs the endgame.exe
>>17663821
This is far more accurate.
than this
>>17663822
but neither is totally correct.
>>17663701
Lol... Why would they want you? N why would they give you 50T?! R u a special snowflake?
>>17663819
Well we can say that, but why would they spend so much energy to corrupt the followers of Christ and dumb them down?
If it was no threat, why would they?
The savior of the Zionists and the messiah of Islam, both fit the profiles of what is coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZIU1uIS2w
>>17663810
We know how hard you work to earn your degree.
>>17663832
This is lucifers world and evil has a natural advantage here. It is not, however, all powerful.
>>17663664
>tried to make me join illuminatis. I said no. Then the bullying and hatred started...
This happened to me.
I was a promising science student and I Was approached and asked to join the Scottish Rite. Something about a "legacy tap". I politely declined.
Shortly after I was nearly killed in a car crash by a military person who was not charged or even ticketed. Although I was just a passenger and I survived, I was bankrupted in medical bills and continued to suffer multiple attempts on my life, usually through car crashes when someone else was driving, and complete lack of legal or judicial response. I was asked to do illegal things at several workplaces and left voluntarily after being threatened.
Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake form that dream?
>>17663843
He will not wake.
God is not coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM
>>17663664
The very basis of the all seeing eye is the concept that you are a bio cpu, your soul an energy body.
The eye patches into your energy body by gaining access though trauma, thus by operating millions of people the eye has the power to manifest its will into psychical reality.
A disgusting cheap rip off of the realms above this place.
illuminati are not very nice, keep well away.
An accomplished healer will sense the energy as vomit.
>>17663669
This....
>>17663854
http://illuminati.am/
>>17663855
>You have a huge surprise waiting for you then
No I don't.
But let's return to more benign less apocalyptic subjects.
Are you familiar with the concept of neuro warfare? It's going to be all the rage in the coming next two centuries.
>>17663869
So a city get's flooded.
They just destroyed an entire city in canada just because.
These things happen.
But what's new and exciting is neuro-warfare.
>>17663882
Yeah lucifer has got style I'll give him that. Why have followers if they won't all kiss your ass?
>>17663738
>>17663748
Did you know you're all zombies?
Not dead, but not entirely living either.
You think your thoughts are your own, but let me tell you, they're not, they're radio broadcasts.
Everyone in the world is "wired"
>>17663855
There are several people who believe different things, some in the rapture and some in living through the trials.
When it comes back to it, you have to look at Martin Luther and and what secret group funded him. And it was the Rosicrucians, then you have to wonder what he changed/influenced in what you believe. And also judge by what the Catholic church removed from the cannons of the word.
Then use your judgement, on what to believe and pick a side. I know there is a good reason why Eastern Orthodox Churches were burned recently, and the King James bible is a pretty good source, along with Isaiah 9:10. First the two towers, then ceders of wallstreet, and now that is where we are in the events they have triggered within the Matrix.
are celebrities part of the illuminati or are the only puppets of the elite?
>>17663895
if our thoughts are not our own how could you know? what would make you special
>>17663904
can you go into detail? I thought the pyramid was just about the social hierarchy. and how come the cube is sin? I thought it was about equality or something
>>17663895
Consider the concept of the "self"
At which point does the self end and the not-self begin?
Are we not all made up of a physical material mutually shared by multiple conscious beings?
At what point does on self end and another begin?
Is it possible to create a construct of consciousness that retains two selves? One of pure self and one of fused self with other subjects?
Surely with advancements in consciousness research and nanotechnology and quantum broadcasting technology it should be possible.
Would it not be possible to become everyone?
To see everything?
To know everything?
What is the probability that such a thing is being attempted?
Has been accomplished?
What is the probability that we are all puppet actors on a stage allowed to lead our lives totally unaware of the greater control mechanisms at work?
When we master the mind we shall master memories, and feelings, and the entirety of subjective reality.
>>17663902
They just promote debauchery and the agenda.
If they have a skill to influence, then they are valuable. And if they are corruptible then yes as well.
>>17663848
Are the illuminati awakened?
>>17663664
Nothing.
You are a retard
>>17663915
What I mean to say is.
What if they are in your brain already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnaTtsClgc4
Have you ever had a dream you were so sure was real?
>>17663699
>www.holytext.org
Well, them aliums got good taste in womenfolk, sho' 'nuf.
>>17663915
>>17663939
To not just CONTROL everyone
But to BE everyone
without the hosts ever knowing.
without ever suspecting "their" thoughts, were yours.
A parasite of consciousness.
For everyone.
>>17663869
>There is aprox 40-50 years until the end (MAX)
This prophecy could also refer to Los Angeles, and could be brought about by the "Big One", or a huge earthquake, for which that city is overdue based on modern geology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1857_Fort_Tejon_earthquake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake
If people were smart they'd get the fuck out of there.
>>17663927
Yaweh is satan, satan is an extra-reality octopus
We're trying to disrupt your input output carrier signal and pinpoint your location.
Illuminati = Jews
>>17663902
>are celebrities part of the illuminati or are the only puppets of the elite?
They are puppets that are given temporary bliss in exchange for leading millions, including themselves, into darkness.
" What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? " - Matt 16:26
>>17663939
I think you are getting on point that the groundwork has been put down for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKzVGeLYYCA
Yes Lucifer was always Agent Smith/Helios, and the goal is a hive mind. I don't think you are far off. The ground work is down for it, and maybe a few are being plugged in.
I think it has yet to go public, but soon.
>>17663904
>Boy standing in masonic way = not sure
Corrupted innocence.
>>17663961
It's supposed to be Christ you idiot.
The people in that painting aren't symbolic, they are literal living breathing entities
>>17663960
What if it's already been done?
Do you believe that if someone could control your neurons they could control what you felt saw tasted and touched?
Do you believe if someone could control your neurons electrical and chemical firing they could write in memories and delete old ones?
Do you believe they could suspend your consciousness rendering a mindless drone for as long as they want writing in false memories later to make up for the lost time?
Do you really comprehend the meaning of the concept of master and slave?
Do you know what the pyramid represents?
>>17663964
on vigilant citizen they say it could symbolize the newest generations being indoctrinate,, perhaps it could have multiple meanings?
>>17663949
Shhhhh don't speak they can't handle that.
The creator of this word is lord of this world, NIV: Satan is lord of this world.
We may have the forbidden knowledge, but that doesn't change the laws of the matrix. And the ways in which it wants people to make their choice.
>>17663971
>>17663972
It's Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmc21V-zBq0
>>17663916
>2. Christians will be here during the tribulation.
No.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Matthew 24:40-41
Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
John 14:1-3
Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
Acts 1:9-11
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
“Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass,” Lk 21:36
Jesus would not give us a false hope of praying for something that was not going to come to pass for us.
>>17663979
ok, then If it is, what would Christ being in the mural symbolize in context with the others portions?
>>17663970
I have already seen several memetic shifting in memories of the real world and people around me do not notice.
I have seen the entire world change, and only myself and a few others notice. (and they wanted to forget as soon as I showed them.)
>>1766370
With the scale of the organization you're describing a bribery would be in the millions, if you are a prince of GCC 50T would be absolute chump change. You should've said some 10Million at least.
>>17663983
Jesus bro, it's supposed to be the second coming.
It doesn't follow the literally bible but it amounts to the same thing.
The boy is supposed to challenge god (satan) with the help of the women (holy spirit)
>>17663922
>>>17663848
>Are the illuminati awakened?
NO. They are subjugated to Lucifer.
Think one tier lower than fallen angels.
Not all Illuminists wear eye triangles, and not all people who use eye symbols are Illuminati.
For example, although the Illuminati hide within Masonry, there is zero actual link between either organization and the true Knights Templar, who are a devoutly Christian Military order.
"By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?" - Matthew 7:16
>>17663949
>>>17663927
>Yaweh is satan, satan is an extra-reality octopu
This post is autistic.
>>17663986
The first mural is called "planning preparation"
The second mural is called "chaos creativity"
The last mural talks about "resurrection, repetition"
It's a cycle.
do you guys think the popularity of "ghost hunting" shows and mediums on television has something to do with Satan? Has anyone else noticed a return to pseudo-spirituality in pop culture?
>>17663954
>Illuminati = Jews
Nope. Wrong again.
God, you're simple-minded.
Why don't you go masturbate into a used can of Zyklon-B, Great Autismo?
>>17664008
Or maybe you and I have all been here before.
>>17664008
They're supposed to be read from right to left,, the "third" mural is actually planning preparation
>>17664013
I mean, Does anyone really ever die?
Eventually our technology will progress to the point where we can force people to live forever against their will.
Where we can resurrect you regardless of how long you have been dead.
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-biotech-company-has-been-given-permission-to-try-and-bring-dead-brains-back-to-life
>>17663664
A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago.
>>17664009
What you are referring to is only the left side, that creates false Utopia using Zionism.
There is a Right side, the hidden side at the 33 degree parallel, that control the left side. They egg them on, in the hopes they trigger the end game.
The connection between the two is Lucifer.
The right side is actually more something like Hitler. And the old style rulers of this world, like royalty.
>>17664024
I gazed a gazely stare at all the millions here
We must have died alone, a long long time ago
Who knows? not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the Man who Sold the World
>>17664024
We don't die, quantum immortality.. we constantly die and "awake" it's all part of the cycle.. when you die you go to the next closest reality to ours.
>>17664013
I have the same feeling, friend.
>>17664031
Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have we found?
The same old fears.
Wish you were here.
And of course, good old Prince had to shit up the thread.
>>17664036
oh, what's it called then?
>>17663988
Yeah, just imagine the possibilities.
Literally EVERYTHING could be fake.
I hate phonies.
>>17664045
"making/building"
>>17663664
>morally neutral
Moral neutrality is another way of saying amorality.
>>17664051
of course it is.
WHAT IF THEY ARE CREATING A MATRIX FOR US TO LIVE IN?
WHERE THEY ARE THE PROGRAMMERS AND ARE LIKE LITERAL GODS?
>>17664041
Meh let him think what he wants, my family is the same way.
It honestly makes me think joining them would be easier, if it spared my senpai.
It's just like the game says, they won't know what to expect.
Isaiah 10:3
"And what will you do in the day of punishment, and in the desolation which shall come from afar? to whom will you flee for help?"
>>17663992
>Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened
The scripture doesn't say that, and Alex Jones is no theologian.
Paul tells us that the Antichrist will be revealed at the appointed time.
And now you know what is holding him back, so that he [Antichrist] may be revealed at the proper time (2 Thessalonians 2:6).
Connecting the prophecies of Daniel with Paul’s we can understand that the Antichrist will be revealed at the abomination that causes desolation. We also know from Daniel and Jesus that the abomination that causes desolation starts the time of Great Tribulation.
Now, we are about to dig into one of the most fascinating and perhaps challenging eschatological mysteries of the Bible. Paul tells us that someone is now restraining “the secret power of lawlessness.” He goes on to say that when the restrainer is no longer restraining - “the secret power of lawlessness” - the Antichrist will be revealed.
So, who is now holding back the secret power of lawlessness? Who is the Restrainer? Let’s look carefully at what Paul is telling us.
And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8)
The answer is that the Holy Spirit of God is what restrains the Antichrist from coming to power. And every true Christian has the Holy Spirit dwelling within them. When and where HE goes, we go. No exceptions.
At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress [tribulation] such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake (Daniel 12:1, 2).
>>17664062
>Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake
that much at least will probably happen what with resurrection technology making advancements.
Has anyone seen that show 'Damien' on A&E? It's pretty good
The man will not wake.
God is not coming.
>>17663995
>>>17663983
>Jesus bro, it's supposed to be the second coming.
>It doesn't follow the literally bible but it amounts to the same thing.
>The boy is supposed to challenge god (satan) with the help of the women (holy spirit)
Wrong.
The child in the video is supported by monsters and uses physical weapons of warfare.
The child symbolizes corrupted innocence that is the Antichrist spirit.
He [Antichrist] will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior (Daniel 8:24, 25).
Daniel says that the Antichrist will become very powerful but that someone else will provide the power he needs. A characteristic of this power, which is evident in both Paul’s and Daniel’s writing, is deception; the Antichrist uses deception to mislead the world. “He will cause deceit to prosper” (Daniel 8:25) as he “deceives those who are perishing” (2 Thessalonians 2:10). Also, in Revelation, we see that Satan will give his power and authority to the Antichrist.
The dragon [Satan] gave the beast [Antichrist] his power and his throne and great authority (Revelation 13:2).
>>17664070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bul5Jz8zUgs
>>17664060
The movie the matrix was literally the opposite in sequence.
We are at the part right now, before the fall and the rise of the machines. When we have the option to become plugged in, because our planet is so messed up because of divine wrath.
Basically things are gonna get spoopy, with happenings.
So get comfy.
>>17664073
Us and Them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died
And the General sat, as the lines on the map
moved from side to side
Black and Blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and Down
And in the end it's only round and round and round
Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
the poster bearer cried
>>17664074
what does the sleeping giant represent
>>17664092
The man shall not wake
God is not coming.
Technocracy is a great dream just like the socialist utopia. I used to believe it too, I used to think us and them was the problem when it should be all.
Then I came out the other side of the rabbit hole, and I saw what they really want.
Still trying to decide for myself.
>>17664076
What has happened before shall happen again.
As above, so below.
>>17664107
The giant is the man, fallen asleep all over again.
>>17664030
>>>17664009 (You)
>What you are referring to is only the left side, that creates false Utopia using Zionism.
>There is a Right side, the hidden side at the 33 degree parallel, that control the left side. They egg them on, in the hopes they trigger the end game.
>The connection between the two is Lucifer.
>The right side is actually more something like Hitler. And the old style rulers of this world, like royalty.
Wery wise, sir.
>>17664110
You got those biblical blinders on pretty hard huh?
>>17664097
>>17664107
If it's man, why would they make him a giant? would that symbolize the masses?
If it's the nephilim, why would he be sleeping?
Y'all haters corny with that Illuminati mess
>>17664050
>I hate phonies.
same.
>>17664118
>If it's man, why would they make him a giant? would that symbolize the masses?
It's a single literal and actual person.
His dream, is our reality.
>>17664109
I need to STFU.
>>17664127
wat
>>17664131
You heard me nigger
>>17663988
It's sad how far gone a lot of people are, not recognising the severe extent they are blinded and molded into the grid.
>>17664070
>The man will not wake.
>God is not coming.
Your opinion lacks relevant argument or information.
>>17664133
huh, betcha feel all powerful and mighty now, saying the n word and whatnot. so edgy
>>17664140
Edgy
Edgy to the max
>>17664098
>Then I came out the other side of the rabbit hole, and I saw what they really want.
Which is what?
>Still trying to decide for myself.
What are the pros and cons of your inner dialogue?
So is the illuminati knowingly satanic, unknowingly doing satan's work, or actually working for the light????? need answers
>>17664128
>>>17664109 (You)
>I need to STFU.
You're fine. I'm impressed.
>For more than two hundred years, the world has held a prejudiced view of the Illuminati. Much has been claimed for and against the Order - its name synonymous with secrecy, intrigue, and mystery in the modern context, despite a poverty of concrete evidence in the English language. Little has been said about the factual structure and development through its life cycle. The Secret School of Wisdom - The Authentic Rituals and Doctrines of the Illuminati, is a ground-breaking text. It marks the first time that a comprehensive ritual book for the society has been re-assembled. Every degree, its instruction and associated texts, has been included and assembled in chronological order of progression. The reader is guided along the same path as many of Germany's most enlightened men, as they were in the years prior to the French Revolution.
>Though some of the rituals and documents have remained available in both libraries and digital archives, no English-language work has succeeded in presenting the magnificent treasure trove of original material as successfully as the book you are now holding in your hands. It is the first work of its kind to offer-for the first time-the full and complete system of the Illuminati under a single cover. Using original source materials, it succeeds in presenting a coherent and intelligible resource to students of Masonic rituals, secret societies, Enlightenment thinking, and little known aspects of world history. You may now read and study the authentic secret rituals and lectures which gave birth to the great conspiracies of today. As preparation of this book progressed I was thrilled to receive each new section, which I hungrily consumed, and compared with documents and manuscripts in my possession. I am happy to report that this book is everything I hoped it would be, and I am likewise happy to commend it to you.
http://www.lewismasonic.co.uk/the-secret-school-of-wisdom-the-authentic-rituals-and-doctrine-of-the-illuminati.htm
>>17664151
Read this comic book in it's entirety
it should answer your questions without giving away anything true.
Ok everybody.
We can all say we think different things, but lets all agree on a few warning signs and options we can all follow.
Warning signs:
Charismatic leader unites the world, dis niga is magic.exe
Spaceships and booming sounds in the red dawn sky, a gift of aid for a troubled world if we accept their beliefs.
The sun and the moon are gone, and it's pretty much happening.exe and literally SHTF.
Ways out: The illusion of choice.
Join them.
-------------------------
Become devout and disconnect from the world.
>>17664159
calm down buddy.
>>17664153
Review from the Scottish Rite Journal
Whether it was in Dan Brown's bestselling novel Angels and Demons (2000), Hollywood's Lara Croft Tomb Raider (2001), or in the old, infamous-and paranoid- work of John Robison, Proofs of a Conspiracy (1797), chances are you've heard about the Illuminati: a supposedly controlling and subversive secret society that pulls the strings in the world's political halls of power.
Have you ever wondered just exactly who and what the Illuminati really was? In a nutshell, the Illuminati (founded in 1776) was the brain-child of the notorious anti-cleric Adam Weishaupt. He infiltrated a Masonic Lodge to attract members, and set up his system as a branch of Freemasonry, conferring the Craft Degrees and other high degrees. In 1785 the Elector of Bavaria outlawed the group and its members were arrested as Weishaupt fled.
Although some of the rituals and papers were published in German, most avoided exposure. However, the entire ritual system of the Illuminati has been translated into English for the first time ever, and is now available in The Secret School of Wisdom: The Authentic Rituals and Doctrines of the Illuminati.
This book is a perfect synthesis of ritual book meets history book. All of the extant ritual texts in archive have been reconciled, meticulously translated, and combined to produce the most reliable account of the Illuminati's working ritual system. Included are the rituals, regalia, passwords, signs, and symbols of the world's most intriguing secret society. It's the book that sets the record straight on the world's most notorious secret society.
Submitted by Arturo de Hoyos, 33°, Grand Cross
>>17664134
>>>17663988
>It's sad how far gone a lot of people are, not recognising the severe extent they are blinded and molded into the grid.
It is. I tried to help. But they wouldn't listen.
>>17664159
>Spaceships and booming sounds in the red dawn sky, a gift of aid for a troubled world if we accept their beliefs
>>>>>"Fear not for the Bursting Sounds that echo across your Red Horizons" from Illuminati commercial
was that intentional
>>17664118
Because the nephilim are waiting to be awakened.
When a nephilim dies it becomes what you know as a demon. A giant is made when an angel and a woman have an offspring. Sometimes its both a giant and elongated skull.
In the last days demons will roam all over the place. That's the sleeping giant awakening. They can't exactly paint a huge demon on there.
But a dead giant is literally a demon. And in the Bible being dead is often referred to as being asleep.
I wont be able to answer anymore as I will get a ban any second. They say I am evading a ban when Im not doing any such thing lol. Same IP all the time.
>>17664170
It's not a nephillim you ass puller.
it's the boy and the man in the sun form the other two murals except he's dead and asleep in the last one.
>>17664169
I knew about this shit in the 80's bro when I was a kid, my dad was a schizoid and he passed on all his psychic genes to me.
I took them, and opened my third eye on top of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj127gtcqdk
>>17664153
>>17664164
The Secret School of Wisdom Review" By Brother Shawn M. Gorley
You would be hard pressed in the recent months to find a Freemason who has not seen or heard the hype pertaining to the release of the book "The Secret School of Wisdom" edited by Josef Wäges, Reinhard Markner and translated to English by Jeva Singh-Anand and published by Lewis Masonic. It was quite apparent that the work they had compiled was going to be something special and one of a kind and their efforts in marketing the book showed this. Let me start out by stating after reading this book, all the hype, build up and anticipation of this unique book was highly worth the wait! The team that made this historic work possible have done an extraordinary job. If you are interested in learning just exactly what the real Bavarian Illuminati was, what it was about, how it came to be and more you will undoubtedly enjoy this book. However, if you are looking for easy answers about what famous movie stars are members and how it is connected to Hollywood as well as the so called "plots for world domination", I can assure you that not only does it not exist in those terms, but you will also most certainly be disappointed because this book does not deal with fiction or hearsay, it does however deal strictly with fact. In the past several hundred years the Illuminati has easily become the whipping boy for all sorts of conspiracy theorists and it's not at all surprising that it has because there simply was not enough information readily available to the general public to contradict the hundreds of silly and false claims.
>>17664185
This book uncovers the much desired information and documentation that has been desired by students of history and the fact that it covers the topic of the Illuminati and does so in the English language is what makes this work not only one of a kind but historical as well. This work will without a doubt uncover any mysteries, preconceived ideas or notions one who thinks they know the real truth may have as well as provide the reader with factual, accurate and concise information, some of which has never been available in the English language much less accessible to the average person. The Illuminati, founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830) had only lasted nine short years when it was suppressed in 1785. During its short existence however it did manage to have a profound effect. Weishaupt, a professor of natural and canon law at the University of Ingolstadt at the time of its inception began to develop the secret society of freethinkers. The purpose of said secret society was to oppose superstition, bigotry and oppression as well as to embrace the ideals of equality, fraternity, and intellectual enlightenment which, given the period of history that this took place in one could imagine what risks such an organization would face. Even with that in mind the fraternity did prove to be quite popular having initiated several hundred members into its three degree system beginning with Novice, Minerval and, Illuminated degrees, which do seem to appear somewhat similar with Freemasonry.
>>17664155
do you have a link for this to read online
>>17664185
>contradict the hundreds of silly and false claims
I love how hard the Freemasons guard their evil little secrets.
>>17664188
Over the years the Illuminati has generally gotten a bad rap as some sort of evil world domination society that still exists today which couldn't be farther from the truth. Shortly after the disintegration of the order in 1785, lost of the original documents of this society were ordered seized by the government and sadly Weishaupt was banished from his own country. Is it no wonder then why there have been centuries of misinformation and conspiracy theories related to the Illuminati since, along with its confusion in relation to the fraternity of Freemasonry as both fraternities are similar in some aspects? With such a lack of credible factually accurate documentation this is definitely no surprise. These are the very reasons why this book "The Secret School of Wisdom" is so vitally important to truly understanding what the Illuminati were. I find this book to not only be extremely valuable to any aspiring student as it does make for great source material but it also has a great deal of value to the casual reader whom is merely interested in this topic. The other added bonus I found was that this book does not appear to be written and compiled for any specific genre, group or type of person as it can be easily understood and enjoyed by anyone and I firmly believe that this will allow this work a much greater audience and the high probability of sales across the board. Overall, I cannot recommend this book highly enough. It truly is a historic piece of literature covering a very misunderstood society. This is definitely a book that has been long overdue for centuries and my deepest congratulations to the entire team that made this book possible. It is because of them that we now have the ability to truly understand the secret society that was the Illuminati and I for one am grateful to them for that!
>>17664182
>psychic genes
we're all capable of being psychic, some are just born with a clearer connection
>>17664191
No but you can buy it online or in a comic book store or you can go onto request board and ask. Or you can torrent it.
>>17664194
>>17664188
>>17664185
Don't believe everything you read.
>>17664193
If you can give a coherent refutation of the materials published by Signh and Wages, I invite you to type up your thesis, with relevant historical citations, and present them to Lewis Masonic for publication as a foil to their research.
>>17664201
I mean, can you give me a reason to doubt that these documents are actually from the Perfectibilist movement, or that they're not the translation of the original materials in German? Because the German version of the papers have been public for hundreds of years and it shouldn't be that hard to run a comparison between source text and translation if you've got a legitimate reason to believe their team of translators screwed the pooch.
>>17664151
>So is the illuminati knowingly satanic, unknowingly doing satan's work, or actually working for the light????? need answers
Knowingly satanic at the middle to upper levels.
Wealth alone does not make one Illuminist in worldview, although almost any very skilled or successful person has probably been approached in one way or another. Those who refused have probably paid a price, some with their lives.
Some Illuminists are unknowingly doing Satan's work, like celebrities who embrace the symbolism, and basically anyone who seeks after riches and fame as an end of its own. The best things in life are free, and always will be, like honesty, loyalty, love, and trust in the context of connectedness with other human beings.
The strategy is "divide and conquer", and remaining isolated, alienated, and afraid to reach out to good people who honestly love you from their heart for who you are, is exactly what they want. It makes you easier to control.
NO Illuminist is working for the True Light. The false light is Lucifer, shiny on the outside, but empty and desolate inside, offering an endless buffet of things that cannot satisfy for long.
The True Light can only be found in Holy God and Jesus Christ, and not in the Christianity that is preached by judgmental idiots. Anyone who preaches anything but Grace risks a serious curse.
Peace, patience, kindness, humility, security, loyalty, honesty, tolerance. These are the things that matter. Unconditional Love is what they most fear, because it's the only thing that can turn a heart of stone that needs what the world offers, into a heart of flesh that does not need those things, and therefore cannot be bought or sold.
>>17664207
>If you can give a coherent refutation of the materials published by Signh and Wages, I invite you to type up your thesis, with relevant historical citations, and present them to Lewis Masonic for publication as a foil to their research.
I would be able to fake anything given enough time and money.
Just yesterday I hacked into the database containing the original manuscript for a very famous book that the publisher uses and changed a few words. Now every printed copy of "the odyssey" is co authored by me and all those liberal arts students will be writing reports on my elegant prose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77XhJK85USs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77XhJK85USs&feature=youtu.be
>>17664211
It's funny, though, those images are standardized through the text of Wages and Singh, as linked above.
Moreover, if you'd bothered to crack open their ritual doctrines, you'd see that the upper triad of degrees deals with the Biblical justification and social implication of Docetism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docetism
At the end of the day, these guys look rather a lot like Protestant non-Chalcedonians.
>>17664213
So you have no actual evidence to undermine the historicity of this research? I do think it's funny that anytime there's an Illuminati thread, the strangest tinfoil gets praise while historical materials get ignored or derided.
>>17664219
>while historical materials get ignored or derided.
Cause everyone is tired of being lied to.
>>17664224
So I'll ask yet again, what evidence to you have that Secret School was redacted or even an outright hoax?
If you could put together a coherent line of inquiry based on this assumption, it would rock the Freemasonic community given how much of a milestone this text is considered to be both inside the Freemasonic community and by academics.
When will this "miracle worker" antichrist finally come out of the shadows? Will it be a man or woman? and also, is the antichrist satan himself or an agent of his doing
>>17664164
Yeah I knew those things already, but I may look at the book.
I told my history professor like 5 years ago about Adam Weishaupt and the Illuminati in the french revolution. She said there was no such thing, or organization.
But then again she was a feminist, and loved to watch mainstream television. (so maybe she was blinded some?)
>>17664252
Or she was a shitty historian/TA.
Or she was responding to your assertion about the Revolution, the Perfectibilists were suppressed before the Rev. got underway.
It's really a great book if you're conversant with Rosicrucian and Freemasonic modes of initiation; even better if you're aware of extra-Biblical (read: apocryphal) doctrines of Docetism.
Shame Weishaupt was as late as he was. With his sort of mind the Chalcedonian heresies may not even have come to pass if he was there making justifications for the concept.
>>17664170
>When a nephilim dies it becomes what you know as a demon. A giant is made when an angel and a woman have an offspring. Sometimes its both a giant and elongated skull.
Dude, smoke up, Johnny. This is as full of shit as possible.
>>17663664
they're 13 families who have wealth and influence, a lot of them were robber barons (rothschild, rockefeller)
they want to usher in a new world order, enslave the masses, and have only their own bloodlines prosper, they killed jfk, did 9/11, they pull the strings and are in control of everything
the religious will say they're satanic, luciferian
>>17664193
>I love how hard the Freemasons guard their evil little secrets.
yup.
"No one lights a lamp and covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, he sets it on a lampstand, so those who enter can see the light. For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be known and illuminated. Pay attention, therefore, to how you listen. Whoever has will be given more, but whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken away from him.” - Jesus in Luke 8
>>17664260
Techincally speaking, the term Nephilim only really applies to first generation offspring, the term in the second temple was rather "Elioud" to refer to the legion of partially mortal giants.
>>17664262
Show me this assertion in the core documents and rituals of the Perfectibilists.
>>17664268
Still not seeing a refutation of Singh and Wages' translations here.
>>17664215
I believe it.
I think they refer to themselves as "the family"
>>17664219
>>>17664211 (You)
>It's funny, though, those images are standardized through the text of Wages and Singh, as linked above.
>Moreover, if you'd bothered to crack open their ritual doctrines, you'd see that the upper triad of degrees deals with the Biblical justification and social implication of Docetism
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docetism
>At the end of the day, these guys look rather a lot like Protestant non-Chalcedonians.
Was this one?
The one from one of their books of secrets which clearly shows that they worship an idol which is a bastardization of YHWH, Ba'al, and Oannes?
I think not.
Wake up.
>>17664301
Wait, what's wrong with IAO all of the sudden. It developed in a largely Christian context.
Jabulon's simply an aggregate name of multiple concepts of the One as described through various doctrines through the ages. Moreover, it was stripped from their rites shortly after Duncan's ritual was published.
Also, the only requirement for Perfectibilists was Blue Lodge initiations; they'd run you through their own preferred redaction of the Scottish Rite a bit later, but as far as I know they never used any of the York/Arch/Cryptic Masonry material. You'd know this if you cracked open Perfectibilist ritual documents sometime.
Learn your Freemasonic history, guys.
Now let's talk about the discordians.
>>17664336
What about them?
Steve Jackson made a card game poking fun at batshit conspiracy retards that batshit conspiracy retards latched onto to justify their batshit conspiracies.
A serpent eating it's own tail.
>>17664310
>Jabulon's simply an aggregate name of multiple concepts of the One as described through various doctrines through the ages. Moreover, it was stripped from their rites shortly after Duncan's ritual was published.
Ba'al is a demon that required child sacrifice:
1 Kings 16:30-34 Now Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD, more than all who were before him. And it came to pass, as though it had been a trivial thing for him to walk in the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, that he took as wife Jezebel the daughter of Ethbaal, king of the Sidonians; and he went and served Baal and worshiped him. Then he set up an altar for Baal in the temple of Baal, which he had built in Samaria. And Ahab made a wooden image. Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel who were before him. In his days Hiel of Bethel built Jericho. He laid its foundation with Abiram his firstborn, and with his youngest son Segub he set up its gates, according to the word of the LORD, which He had spoken through Joshua the son of Nun.
1 Kings 14:22-24 Now Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked Him to jealousy with their sins which they committed, more than all that their fathers had done. For they also built for themselves high places, sacred pillars, and wooden images on every high hill and under every green tree. And there were also perverted persons in the land. They did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.
BAAL-ZEBUB (lord of the fly, also Satan) was worshipped at Ekron. 2Ki 1:2,3,16
Solomon's wives turned him to the worship of the demon Ba'al and others:
The LORD became angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice. Although he had forbidden Solomon to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the Lord’s command. (1 Ki 11:9)
This why Solomon is important to Masonry.
>>17664310
>>>17664301 (You)
>Wait, what's wrong with IAO all of the sudden. It developed in a largely Christian context.
>Jabulon's simply an aggregate name of multiple concepts of the One as described through various doctrines through the ages. Moreover, it was stripped from their rites shortly after Duncan's ritual was published.
>Also, the only requirement for Perfectibilists was Blue Lodge initiations; they'd run you through their own preferred redaction of the Scottish Rite a bit later, but as far as I know they never used any of the York/Arch/Cryptic Masonry material. You'd know this if you cracked open Perfectibilist ritual documents sometime.
>Learn your Freemasonic history, guys.
"On" is short for Oannes, another Pagan god:
http://www.oannes.com/beginning.html
>>17664340
>Implying you can't get enlimenthg on the conspiracy path
The world is batshit crazy , is not crazynes to see it as it is.
>>17664273
>Still not seeing a refutation of Singh and Wages' translations here.
How about this?
The "Black Supper", a clearly satanic ritual used in the College Fraternity ritual of a prominent fraternity everyone would know the name of, used by Illuminists to "groom" frat brothers for the Masonic, and eventually Illuminist, ranks?
Is this in your precious "Singh and Wages"?
Because they know everything, right?
>>17664349
>>17664355
So what do we make of Campbell's assertion that Jabulon's an imperfect reflection of Hyle of the Masks?
>>17664355
In the Perfectibilist system and the OTO, On refers most directly to the Sun, as per Egypt: In biblical Hebrew Heliopolis was referred to as, Ôn (אן) or Āwen (און), Ancient Greek: Ὂν.
Or is the only interpretation allowed the one that's the most harmful to Christian concepts?
>>17664365
I'd ask for direct evidence of Perfectibilist survival, let alone that they're the direct predecessor of the Skull and Bones.
>Because they know everything, right?
No, I just trust Ph.D. historians and translators over some hick's blog or poorly cited book full of feelpinions.
>>17663700
Actually interesting elaborate please.
>>17663764
Shit like that is scary.
>>17664367
>>>17664355
>So what do we make of Campbell's assertion that Jabulon's an imperfect reflection of Hyle of the Masks?
They are entitled to their opinion, but Jah-Bel-On worshipped as the Masonic God is clearly a bastardizaton of Holy God with a demon, Ba'al, and a pagan idol Oannes.
To suggest otherwise is intentional misdirection, or just plain denial.
>>>17664355
>In the Perfectibilist system and the OTO, On refers most directly to the Sun, as per Egypt: In biblical Hebrew Heliopolis was referred to as, Ôn (אן) or Āwen (און), Ancient Greek: Ὂν.
So that makes it better?
> uh, dude, it's a bastardization of the name of Holy God with a DIFFERENT pagan demon, so that's better.
Really? That's your argument?
How about addressing the point that "Jahbelon" is not YHWH, and answering the question which entity in the Multiverse would be most interested in corrupting God's name and replacing demon worship instead?
Protip: Lucifer/Satan
>Or is the only interpretation allowed the one that's the most harmful to Christian concepts?
ANY bastardization of Holy God's name with demons or pagan "gods" is most harmful to Christian concepts.
You should know that.
>>17664375
>I'd ask for direct evidence of Perfectibilist survival, let alone that they're the direct predecessor of the Skull and Bones.
The point of "secret" is that there is no evidence.
>>17663738
>>17663764
>>17663810
>>17663939
>>17663915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRr98d-L3zQ
>>17664375
>>Because they know everything, right?
>No, I just trust Ph.D. historians and translators over some hick's blog or poorly cited book full of feelpinions.
Mmm..Ad Hominem attacks. :)
"gotcha"
>>17664385
>worshipped as the Masonic God
Yeah, that's why that particular name was removed entirely from the rituals.
>To suggest otherwise is intentional misdirection, or just plain denial.
K.
>So that makes it better?
I dunno, when it comes to asserting that all three fragments of the name are EBUL SATUNS when one's most prominently explained and viewed in multiple structures as the name for the city of the sun? Seems to kinda neutralize the most prominent assertions of anti-Christianity.
>Really? That's your argument?
My argument is that that maybe if you studied the rites as-is instead of overlaying your or their agenda on top of it, you may come to something resembling truth.
>How about addressing the point that "Jahbelon" is not YHWH, and answering the question which entity in the Multiverse would be most interested in corrupting God's name and replacing demon worship instead?
Why should I care what you think or convince you otherwise? For you, all Freemasonic activity is rooted directly in Perfectibilism which is a satanic doctrine and there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. Seems pretty cut and dried, really. I just wanna present another, more comparative religion oriented side to speculation on Freemasonic doctrine.
>You should know that.
There's no place for the "salvation" of the Nazarene in my heart.
>>17664310
>Jabulon's simply an aggregate name of multiple concepts of the One as described through various doctrines through the ages. Moreover, it was stripped from their rites shortly after Duncan's ritual was published.
No it wasn't.
>>17664387
But if there's no evidence of it because it's secret, how do we know there's a survival?
>>17664390
Show me an strongly anti-Illuminati commentator who asserts a survival after the prince's suppression that has academic credibility or who has run translation on the core documents.
My point is rather that I trust those who have the academic credentials and peer review to speak on a subject over anybody who has no idea about the internal mechanisms of the Perfectibilist ritual structures, doctrines, or even timeline.
I don't trust Dawkins as a philosopher any more than I trust Springmeier or Schnoebelen as historians.
>>17664375
Get out, shill!
>>17664396
At that point I'd say it'd be down to your lineage of transmission; Anglican or Continental, American or British, Lodge or Orient.
Pardon any implications that Freemasonry's a monolithic entity, I should have rather said, "as far as I know via my personal exposure to the material".
>>17664395
>>worshipped as the Masonic God
>Yeah, that's why that particular name was removed entirely from the rituals.
Prove it by publishing a ritual without it.
No?
Didn't think so.
>>To suggest otherwise is intentional misdirection, or just plain denial.
>K.
I see you didn't deny it. :)
>>So that makes it better?
>I dunno, when it comes to asserting that all three fragments of the name are EBUL SATUNS when one's most prominently explained and viewed in multiple structures as the name for the city of the sun?
"On", like many things, has multiple meanings, none of them Christian. It is short for Oannes, a demon. It is also short for "On", or Hindu "Aum", which arose from the Egyptian city of the same name where worship of the Nephilim (Cambion) as polytheism first developed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliopolis_(Ancient_Egypt)#Worship
The point is any interpetation is non-Christian, and non-Monotheistic, most importantly, since even the Masons supposedly pride themselves on monotheism, yest bastardize God's name with other "gods" and venerate polytheism.
>>Really? That's your argument?
>My argument is that that maybe if you studied the rites as-is instead of overlaying your or their agenda on top of it, you may come to something resembling truth.
>>How about addressing the point that "Jahbelon" is not YHWH, and answering the question which entity in the Multiverse would be most interested in corrupting God's name and replacing demon worship instead?
>Why should I care what you think or convince you otherwise? For you, all Freemasonic activity is rooted directly in Perfectibilism which is a satanic doctrine and there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. Seems pretty cut and dried, really. I just wanna present another, more comparative religion oriented side to speculation on Freemasonic doctrine.
>>You should know that.
>There's no place for the "salvation" of the Nazarene in my heart.
>>17664074
Nothing that you highlighted makes sense wtf are you talking about
>>17664395
>>Really? That's your argument?
>My argument is that that maybe if you studied the rites as-is instead of overlaying your or their agenda on top of it, you may come to something resembling truth.
I have no agenda. Analysis of the rites shows that the "god" of the freemasons is a bastardization of Holy God's name with pagan idols and a veneration of polytheism, hence, a deception.
>Why should I care what you think or convince you otherwise? For you, all Freemasonic activity is rooted directly in Perfectibilism which is a satanic doctrine and there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. Seems pretty cut and dried, really. I just wanna present another, more comparative religion oriented side to speculation on Freemasonic doctrine.
I didn't say all fremasons were Perfectibilists. I said the highest level ones were, and the rituals are clearly polytheist and Satanic.
I also asked you to attempt to refute, with rational argument and evidence, that "Jahbelon" is NOT YHWH, which you cannot do.
>>You should know that.
>There's no place for the "salvation" of the Nazarene in my heart.
That much is clear.
I will pray for you, Anon.
>>17664423
>Prove it by publishing a ritual without it.
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/r/iowara_r.html
(Netherlands, from a 2001 handbook)
> I said the highest level ones were, and the rituals are clearly polytheist and Satanic.
Show me.
>I will pray for you, Anon.
Yeah, that does a whole lot. Thanks though, I'm sure that of all the people who have said this to me, it'll get through THIS TIME.
>>17664400
>But if there's no evidence of it because it's secret, how do we know there's a survival?
Look around.
>My point is rather that I trust those who have the academic credentials and peer review to speak on a subject over anybody who has no idea about the internal mechanisms of the Perfectibilist ritual structures, doctrines, or even timeline.
You're attempting to obfuscate the fact that I've shown you two clearly heretic, polytheism, and satanic ritual documents that ARE NOT public domain, that show the Greek System and Freemasonry to be rooted in elitism and worship of things other than God.
From the documents, Jahbelon is the god of the Freemasons. Is "Jahbelon" YHWH or not? It's a yes or no question. If no, Masonry is demonic.
If you think they're the same, you're wrong, and everybody knows.
>>17664444
>>Prove it by publishing a ritual without it.
>http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/r/iowara_r.html
Thant's Royal Arch masonry, and only one ceremony.
By "Ritual" I mean the ENTIRE ritual for initiation at the highest levels.
>>17664445
>If no, Masonry is demonic.
You do realize there are more philosophical and theological positions than Christianity v. Satanism? Or do you think every culture that's not predicated on the Hebrews was developed by the direct intercession of the Opposer?
Say I'm a Christian but one day decided to wake up and call god by a different name...say...Adoil. Would that, then, make me a worshiper of the devil as opposed to god under a different name?
>>17664444
>> I said the highest level ones were, and the rituals are clearly polytheist and Satanic.
>Show me.
>17664301
>17664365
That's the tip of the iceberg.
>>I will pray for you, Anon.
>Yeah, that does a whole lot. Thanks though, I'm sure that of all the people who have said this to me, it'll get through THIS TIME.
You never know.
>>17664457
Show me Jabulon in the highest degrees of the Freemasonic structure of rites and appendant bodies. Seriously, this should not be a difficult proposition.
32 is a comment on Christ's notions of love. 22 is the material on Malta v. Templars.
That said, I cannot speak on the topic of the Acons, the Holy City, or the Rites of the Holy Order of Wisdom, so if Jabulon pops up back in that material, I'd be interested in further research. Another caveat, though, is that can't even make heads or tails of HOoD's grade structure, American and the UK seem to run it entirely differently, and I've not seen rituals of that series.
>>17664458
>You do realize there are more philosophical and theological positions than Christianity v. Satanism? Or do you think every culture that's not predicated on the Hebrews was developed by the direct intercession of the Opposer?
"But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—eternal life." - John 2: 20-25
It's yours to gain, Anon.
Or to lose.
Illuminati here. AMA
>>17664462
Ok, you just linked me to a Skull and Bones rite, and the Rite of the Holy Arch, which the 2001 Dutch edition thereof has zero references to Jabulon, as shown here: >>17664444, being the 7th degree of the York system after the split into rites. Moreover, Skull and Bones doesn't even appear as an appendant body in most traditional representations of Freemasonic structure, just like ATO does not appear in the rolls of Freemasonic bodies despite being a college fraternity itself. Not every "secret" society is explicitly joined with all others.
>You never know.
Hasn't worked before, Pet3r, don't see a reason for it to start working now.
>>17664260
I had a dream last night of a little boy named johnny that wanted to push me off a cliff overlooking my city.
>>17664468
So you're telling me everyone born before Christ or in a culture that had no exposure to Christism has been preordained to burn in the Lake of Fire suffering a second eternal death?
Sounds like the work of an incompetent God, if you ask me.
>>17664472
Did Kellner/Reuss read and appropriate the Perfectibilist ritual gestures, or was there an actual chain of lineal transmission. Y'see, for half this thread, I've been arguing against lineal transmission because I can find no credible historians who make this link and most survival theories have been roundly debunked by historians, so if you're an actual surviving Perfectibilist, please tell us how you survived Bavarian suppression.
They illuminate minds. They are here to show you the truth, but the government makes up lies about them.. I.e. new world order.. so they can be disregarded as either fake or the bad guys.
As you've probably seen people talk about on here , there is a relation between them and Discordianism. Discordianism is all about free will
>>17663664
>for
The illuminati no longer exists. It was an organization a long time ago that consisted of a select few world leaders. their idea was to make the whole world be ruled under one government. But they failed and disbanded. Sadly. People to this day make things up about them still existing and poison the well of human knowledge.
>>17664481
>Did Kellner/Reuss read and appropriate the Perfectibilist ritual gestures, or was there an actual chain of lineal transmission. Y'see, for half this thread, I've been arguing against lineal transmission because I can find no credible historians who make this link and most survival theories have been roundly debunked by historians, so if you're an actual surviving Perfectibilist, please tell us how you survived Bavarian suppression.
I definitely understand what you just said.
>>17664493
>a select few world leaders
>93
Y'know the rolls of Perfectibilist membership have been public for as long as the original German rituals and dox, right? Most powerful we get is administrators and minor nobility; more cultural folks than anything, people like Goethe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Illuminati_members
(The list may not actually be complete, I've long suspected the philosopher Schiller to be associated in some capacity)
One things for sure... They are NOT human. No human can possibly torture other humans for centuries.
>>17663664
>What's the end goal for illuminati?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0
>>17664039
We know exactly what we mean by that
>>17664481
>>>17664468
>So you're telling me everyone born before Christ or in a culture that had no exposure to Christism has been preordained to burn in the Lake of Fire suffering a second eternal death?
>Sounds like the work of an incompetent God, if you ask me.
Nope. Whoever has knowledge of Jesus as Christ and willfully denies it seems to be in danger, from this passage.
>>17664527
You certainly are naieve about humanity. Humans do THE WORST shit out of all the animals on earth
>>17666592
Yeah, look at the eradication of native americans, or the great bison hunt, shi was out of bounds by far. These are just a fraction of examples.
To say Jesus died for these things so we can carry on is grotesquely arrogant.
>>17664378
lmao chant looks like a dildo
>>17663677
>the most scary ting is there is no one in control.
This.
>>17666600
Jesus died so we could smoke tweed.
Mary means royal incense.
Gabby the angel of WATER, told Joseph, who didn't fuck his wife, that he would be the father of God's child.
Can anyone here confess on undergoing Luciferian consciousness; to be truly adopted in the Illuminati?
>>17663960
>Yes Lucifer was always Agent Smith/Helios, and the goal is a hive mind. I don't think you are far off. The ground work is down for it, and maybe a few are being plugged in.
The human instrumentality project.
Ultimately it will be broken do to a single mans ego that wished to remain an individual.
>>17663675
Because they're fucking filthy twats...
>>17667950
sure, what do you want to know?
>>17667980
>Ultimately it will be broken do to a single mans ego that wished to remain an individual.
you will be assimilated.
>>17663664
They are globalist zionist jews who want to destroy the white race
>>17668023
>23
The fruit of life is held by Angles.
The fruit of knowledge is held by man
Posses them both and therefore become god.
The Tree of Life
The source of Souls
>>17663685
Why wouldnt they just shoot you in the face, this isnt a movie yo.
>>17663677
This. Why don't people get it. All control is illusion, we all die. Accept it.
If anyone says they know what's going on they're talking shit
>>17669499
>If anyone says they know what's going on they're talking shit
Even you?
>>17663759
I remember this picture
The thing is that they are blind, remember all images of satan show him as blind/blindfolded, he/they are slaves to desire, representing an inversion of will/love/morality/God. They think they contain our conscience but it goes two ways. Think of how worldwide internet surveillance has taken away privacy but also exposes their evil acts, it enables us far more than it does them.
>>17669535
lol no
>>17669499
>we all die. Accept it.
This is the greatest illusion of all.
>>17663778
Siddharta Buddha said reality lay beyond the illusions of Mara.. Long before Simon Magus even existed.
I overdosed about a month ago and should be dead
A friend found me who just happened to be walking by the field i was lying in
I faded to black and woke up in the loony bin baker acted
I didnt see anything but i shouldnt be here
Why am i still here
>>17665273
Looking past all the obvious hints towards recent events, the plot of this film is really to get the people so sick, weak and brainwashed past the threshold, all orchestrated, untill they time comes of the false missiah who, through miracles gives them everything they needed. Giving the illusion that the people have found salvation, but in reality just gave everything to satan (the goat). So everyone will be a pet goat. (I,(m) (a) pet goat II (two > too).
>>17669606
Go back to the field and do the same shit. That should be fun
>>17663685
I told em to fuck off when they wanted me to promote some shit about American borders being the way for prosper. They want assimilation of all races and mainly the U.S so the Constitution gets re-done. This will further their agenda as many in the U.S are against them but the liberal establishment cant lose. They think I appeal to certain people and once I met with them they tried to intimidate me, Once I found a mini bottle-bomb in my car axel that could have cause an accident, I know now they are on to me hard,
>>17664493
It's ironic that you're spreading misinformation like this
>>17663764
>>17664383
>scary
This isn't proof of any nefarious plots or people behind the scenes pulling strings. It's referencing an ancient art form. And it's from a comic book...
https://youtu.be/pfydro4X2t0
http://artsonline2.tki.org.nz/resources/lessons/drama/drama_puppetry/drama_understand_e.php
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/world/asia/indonesia-bali-shadow-puppet/
>The term for puppetry, wayang, comes from the Indonesian word for shadow bayang. Wayang kulit, shadow puppetry using figures made from water buffalo hide, is considered to be the oldest freestanding puppet form; the earliest references to it date from the 800s. A court poet during the reign of King Airlangga (1035–1049) wrote: “There are people who weep, are sad and aroused watching the puppets, though they know they are merely carved pieces of leather manipulated and made to speak. These people are like men who, thirsting for sensuous pleasures, live in a world of illusion; they do not realize the magic hallucinations they see are not real.”
>>17663691
The Jews are in cahoots. CAHOOTS.
https://youtu.be/bWIkqEnVG8I
Illumnism wants to rid the world of Abrahamic religions and start the second enlightenment.
The Illuminati are actually the good guys
>>17663948
you're right about "the big one" being only a matter of time. But I disagree about it being "the end" or about it having to do with prophecy. But that's just me.
I think some, like you say, should absolutely get the fuck out. And the rest better dust off their emergency preparedness plans.
>http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
>In the Pacific Northwest, the area of impact will cover* some hundred and forty thousand square miles, including Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene, Salem (the capital city of Oregon), Olympia (the capital of Washington), and some seven million people. When the next full-margin rupture happens, that region will suffer the worst natural disaster in the history of North America. Roughly three thousand people died in San Francisco’s 1906 earthquake. Almost two thousand died in Hurricane Katrina. Almost three hundred died in Hurricane Sandy. FEMA projects that nearly thirteen thousand people will die in the Cascadia earthquake and tsunami. Another twenty-seven thousand will be injured, and the agency expects that it will need to provide shelter for a million displaced people, and food and water for another two and a half million. “This is one time that I’m hoping all the science is wrong, and it won’t happen for another thousand years,” Murphy says.
In fact, the science is robust, and one of the chief scientists behind it is Chris Goldfinger. Thanks to work done by him and his colleagues, we now know that the odds of the big Cascadia earthquake happening in the next fifty years are roughly one in three. The odds of the very big one are roughly one in ten. Even those numbers do not fully reflect the danger—or, more to the point, how unprepared the Pacific Northwest is to face it. The truly worrisome figures in this story are these: Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed.
>>17664193
>guard our secrets
>by publishing them for 300+ years
You faggots need to actually try and learn about what you say. The secrets aren't secret, nor even the core of the institution. But i guess you're too dazzled by the sexy and easy memes to bother researching.
>>17663828
Poor dude has paranoid schizophrenia with a sizeable dose of NPD. I live in Melbourne and know the wall collapse he is talking about. There were two students and one research scientist who were killed by that collapse, which was caused by gale-force winds. The wall was old and in made condition, was completely exposed broadside to the wind, and had a wooden sign attach to the to of it that acted like a sail. The students went to Melbourne University, not RMIT and the researcher worked at Monash. They couldn't have witnessed the alleged bullying at RMIT. The kids were 18 and 19, brother and sister. It was an awful tragedy. But there were no others injured, and especially no Arabian prince.
tl;dr - I hope this guy gets the help he needs.
>>17669499
>>17663677
Super intelligent hyper-dimensional 6th density demons that use occult rituals to proxy control through the Illuminati and then society is LESS scary than just no one being in control.
Someone explain how this makes any sense at all.
>>17669784
STOP posting this same FUCKING IMAGE new ideas , PLease
>>17669855
Who are their masters? Read Enoch and the Bible, this explains who these dimensional entities are and what their goal is. Christianity is the ultimate red pill.
>>17663664
The question is are they reptiles?
>>17663664
>Is wealth the only requirement to joining?
In the words of Drake:
''I am in the Matrix and I just took the blue pill
No ho shit, no fuckin' ho shit, save that for your shit
I don't need no fuckin' body, I run my own shit
I told yah, thought I told yah, you didn't listen
Fieri, I'm in the kitchen, I'm a magician
I'm on it, I'm like Macgyver, I'm Michael Myers
I kill careers and cut the lights off, this shit is frightenin'
I knew it would end up like this, I'm fuckin' psychic''
''I'm here to fuck with nigga's souls, my heart is cold
It's prolly cause I'm from the snow, with all my woes
I know they wanna see me go, I'm on a roll''
Yeah, you'll probably become a tool of theirs, but you'll be rich and very happy in this world. However, you'll have to face hell with all the woes you've commited.
It's basically a very powerful satanist group.
You tell me if that's good. A few years of pleasure and bliss in real life, but torture for eternity, or a regular life of labour, but still happiness and enjoyment with friends and family, and eternity with God in pure happiness, where you'll never have to work again.
>>17663762
The boy is you Donald.
Guess I'll still be lurking if anyone wants to talk about the rites and doctrines of Perfectibilism rather than the memeluminati.
>>17669874
I'd rather live being mocked and die knowing there will be peace, and working for god, I'd do that.
>>17669874
One life does not determine your eternity.
Though, we agree these people will go through a torturous hell unlike any other.
>>17663685
Take your meds anon, if someone wanted you dead you would probably be dead
there more of a boogeyman then an actual threat, the actual threat, no one knows, because lets face it, if the Illuminati were so powerful, we wouldn't know about them
>>17663685
>Ways of illuminatis tried to kill me so far:
>People brake checking me while driving.
>>17663664
Believing that money will keep them safe when the world shifts just proves they're stupid. The materialistic world will die when the ground splits open and fire pours from the cracks. Money won't save anyone, because honestly there won't be any safe places left when our reign ends. The earth is going through a new phase, the first part is just a few awakening shakes but the next is more terrifying than anyone can imagine. Nature unleashed.
>>17669783
"He who hoots, is in cahoots!" - Moloch/Enlil
>>17669864
Yea, he should post the one that includes Mormonism.
;^}
>>17663685
Should've gone to UniMelb, faggot.
>>17663701
Jesus fucking christ, is everyone from RMITafe this retarded?
Cunt
