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How come there are hardly ever any simple Alien/Ufo footage threads
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How come there are hardly ever any simple Alien/Ufo footage threads on here?

Post your Alium and Ufo pics and discuss.. simple as that /x/
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>>17530284
kek because real footage or pictures of aliens DOESNT EXIST.
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post the shit anyways faggot.. it's still more entertaining then some 14 year old trying to summon a demon to suck his dick thread
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>>17530284
The reason I don't post real UFO footage is because the real stuff gets lost in the bullshit. 99.99999% of UFO clips on Youtube are fake, making it utterly impossible to find anything of value. The remaining 0.000001% are usually explainable.

I haven't seen one UFO clip on YT that is 100% an UFO.
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>>17530921
.. also, I've seen 2 UFO's. 1 was definitely not something "normal", the other could've been a balloon.

>inb4 shill
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>>17530308
true
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Obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7uqP46zdsA
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>>17530921
This. Never imagined a disinformation campaign would be so obvious.

UFO casebook has the good stuff.
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ayy lmao
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>>17530284
Unfortunately 99% of all future reports will be personal drones.
Like this is clearly a drone
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2016/ufo-videotaped-over-richmond-virginia.html
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>>17531482
yeah but there are a bunch of pictures and videos of stuff which is definitely not drones

are you paid to be here by chance
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>>17531492
Nope just skeptical and reasonable. I know I know, i'll see myself out.
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the amount of dumb replies in threads like this really helps me to believe that some of my tax dollars go to people shitposting on conspiracy forums and astroturfing comment sections around the internet

what a time to be alive
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>>17531497
idk as far as i'm concerned people are usually smart enough to recognize a drone

Venus is the same way morons report it as a UFO.
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this one is from atlanta, a whole bunch of people saw it
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youtube: 'tether incident'

i've always wondered what these dudes are. exoatmospheric plasma lifeforms?
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Seems threads are getting deleted left and right, wonder if this will last.
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this one's neat. the website it's from is neat too. those aussie ufologists are on another level
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ayy lmao
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>distance between shit is so big that we're never going to make contact, even if aliums do exist
Why even live?
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>>17531554
this would be true if the world was only physical, everything exist only in material form

this is not the case, the biggest part of the universe is not material and the aliens have mastered the way to travel and shift in and out of the physical world. so in the astral world, there are no limits to speed and such.
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the ufos that people "summon" are so fucking weird looking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTnPv_UCcA
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>>17531569
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>17531554
It's all within you, it is not far.
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>>17531574
pretty weird. it looks like this one vid where's there's this kind of one-legged blimp-looking figure turning round and round just like this thing.
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>>17531576
watch this video, its lengthy but absolute worth it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_RwcGzGurc

this information has really been known around since forever but common people never really get to it since they are swarmed with everyday tasks and time is limited

eventually truth will come out and scientists will have to admit that all they thought they've known is wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liQnb6wOPo8
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>>17531574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4YOS1OTd-U

same kind of thing
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>>17531574
What the fuck is that thing?
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>>17531692
that guy has like a million videos of weird looking ufos, thats probably the weirdest. hes not the only one either, theres several other people summoning and recording these super weird things
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>>17531716
How does he summom them?
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the only real alien footage is the famous alien autopsy footage. it being 'debunked' is disinfo.
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>>17531574
that's a bunch of fucking balloons fuck all of you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuanP2P41_I
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>>17530284
cgi
>>17531469
mylar baloon(s)
>>17531474
cgi recreation made for the History channel
>>17531486
asteroid
>>17531492
aeroplane
>>17531507
first frame is a bug on a long exposure
the rest are are flock of birds
>>17531510
no point of reference, no source, no information on this. could be literally anything in any area in space. most likely fake.
>>17531512
super hot magma explosively ejected from a volcano.
>>17531519
lenticular cloud.
>>17531525
Looks like bad photoshopping to me. Could be a group of hoaxers.
>>17531530
space debris illuminated/reflecting light given off by the space station's exterior lights giving the illusion of larger objects
>>17531533
dead pixels
>>17531536
a bug
>>17531620
>thirdphaseofmoon
notorious hoaxers, never link shit from them here. they're only in it to con people and get youtube bucks.
>>17531651
another balloon.
>>17531954
decent cgi but still fake.
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>>17531996
I've no idea how they could hoax this >>17531996
looks too good for cgi, doubt this is a drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teeRzaybrXw

This looks like flares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6r7vpCXriY

This could be drones but damn it's creepy
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>>17530284

Took this a couple days ago didn't even see them at the time-
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Cropped from this-
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMHvTKjD0Y
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>>17532096
first video is flares shot from a boat
greer is a fraud only interested in making money from guillible idiots. he charged each person 1000 bucks to watch fucking distress flares.
second one looks like cgi lights
nothing about it seems genuine at all
from the camera man's reaction to his uninterested and poor tracking of the objects as they move.
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>>17531996
mister "i explain everything"... explain this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGz5Nv4kBo
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>>17532124
the most genuine looking footage in this entire thread.
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>>17531996
>it's OK
>nothing to see here
>just weather balloons
>be on your way civilians

Fuckin shill
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>>17532120
I do find it convenient that he'll only take 30 - 40 people to an undisclosed location, usually in the middle of nowhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

Yeah the guy talking in the video sounds like an idiot, shame as i think the video might be legit but thirdphaseofmoon are trying to take credit for it
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>>17532133
I'm an unemployed UFO enthusiast who's sick of seeing same faked junk being peddled over and over again by idiots who can't use some common sense.

If you post something high quality and truly remarkable I'll tell you.
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>>17532143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMOezRBwHWo

deunked
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>>17532144
then share some of your pieces from your collection with us
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>>17532158
This. Do it you pretentious fag.
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>>17532144
>I'm an unemployed UFO enthusiast

and a cuck as well? how about you contribute if you're so sick of seeing fake shit.
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>>17530284
because cameras exist In this dimension most aliens do not
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>>17532170
so, unemployed and unsuccsesfull UFO researcher
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>>17532171
sure i'll just go outside with my camera and take a photo of a real ufo
BRB
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>>17531996
thanks cia
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>>17532144
>I'm an unemployed UFO enthusiast
jesus
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>>17531996
hate to break it to you
you are ignorant, and closed minded.
you have forgotten that you are floating on a rock in infinite space with infinite planets around you , and hundreds of thousands of species of human beings exponentially more advanced than the humans on this planet.

are you the shill goblin? what are you trying to prove by being so closed minded and acting like such an autist with your "NOPE FAKE NOPE GAY CGI LOL FAKE AND GAY"..
..the minister of defense for the united states of America has said that there is an extraterrestrial presence in our atmosphere and all around us and has been. so are you going to argue head of states? ministers of defense? mayors? police officers who have seen these craft and beings?
el oh el
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>>17531996
Autism
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyoaN0QK2IA
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>>17531996
ebin
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>>17530308
Can I summon a demon to suck my Dick?
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>>17530284
because we learned that it's all disinfo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5tZbL8ww6Y
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ4ir04guG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMsgd3vcRAg
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>>17531996
care to post a real ufo then?
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>>17534562
Literally what would be the point of having 100% disinfo?
Obviously there's got to be some _info_ for you to need to hide it behind disinfo.
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>>17530284
Its the same reason /b/ turned to shit...
pretty much. Its why everything good turns to shit....
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>>17535740
Its also the same reason why you dont see any photographs or video of the incident in chicago o hare that was withness by over a hudnred people. If you are keen, you can find the real shit and sift out the bullshit. enough said.
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>>17535747
>incident in chicago o hare
This was amazing, thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZOZwZC6M
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>>17531729

he let's go of the string that's attached to the helium balloons
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>>17530284
I know it's probably considered fake by everyone, but has there been any really conclusive investigation of forensics done on the videos that OP's pic is from?
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>Blue Book & other files archive
http://that1archive.neocities.org/subfolder1/ufo-files.html
>general files archive
http://www.theblackvault.com/
>general case archives
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports.html
http://ufoevidence.org/cases/ufocaseshome.asp
http://www.mufon.com/archive.html
http://cufos.org/
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>>17531996
Lol, "itsa bug." Okay turkey
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>>17530284
ayy lmao
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>>17530293
Drake is fucking retarded
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>>17531996
Anon hold on tight, ima go ahead and round up all my scattered ufo and alien evidence and post them, try and debunk them as you did here starting now

>im also very skeptical when i go looking for evidence but still believe

also >>17531525 was actually hoaxers, was proven amd the creator made a video tutorial on how to make it
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>>17539372
2/?
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>>17539380
3/?
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>>17539382
4/?
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>>17539385
A few good ones
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>>17531482
shill confirmed
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>>17531996
SHILL AS FUCK
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>>17539388
5/?
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>>17539394
6/?

Found my 4 favorite peices of evidence...was leaked to the clear net from the deep web by a spanish conspiracy site
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>>17539415
These wouldve taken a great amount of effort and skill to make these just to take a low quality picture of it and post on the deep web....
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>>17539420
This is a different sorce but same story

Also originally found these on /x/ back in 2012

Again, why would someone go through the time and effort of making a full body detailed alien just to take a picture of a pictere of it and post on deep web to get no popularity?
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>>17539431
Last/?

Also didnt mention that last time i posted these on 4chan the thread 404d less than a minute after....creeped me out but was probably some coincidence
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>>17539436
Pic related to what i said

Wasnt under a minute but still really fast for no reason. This is before image searched it on the clear net.

>>17539415
>>17539420
>>17539431
>>17539436
Thoughts anyone?
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>>17539447
Just because it's on deep web doesn't make it real
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>>17539431
Doesn't look like the nostrils actually have any opening, and the upper eyelids look kinda fake.
>>17539436
That leg is kinda sexy
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>>17539503
Yes i obviously know that lol...but think about it...why would someone go throught the hard work of constructing an alien body just to post bad quality pictures on the deep web

Would be more reasonable if it were on the clear net but its not
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>>17530284
AYY LMAO
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>>17539519
Thats exactly the 2 things i noticed about it...only 2 things i can see that is evidence of a hoax.

The hand looks real though from what i can see
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>>17539529
I just noticed this, look at the outline around the pinky finger, looks like it might have been digitally manipulated.
Also although it looks very real I do kind of get the overall sense that the image of the hand has been stretched for some reason, maybe it's the joints? I don't know.
If it is fake though both of those images together are still extremely impressive.
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>>17539534
Hmm you're right i notice the pinky outline as well. Now that i look at it the shadow doesnt line up correctly with it either.

Ok so im starting to lean towards these 2
>>17539431
>>17539436
Being elaborate fakes...

But what about the other 2
>>17539415
>>17539420
Also when you think of it, 1 set has whit eyes with pupils while the other set has plain black eyes so if one is actually real, then the other is almost definitely fake

As for this one i posted
>>17539385
Im iffy about it due to an anon claiming it was a set to a movie...but he never had proof of this
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Thread starting to get good. Bump
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>>17531574
those are literally heart baloons
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This is one I got last month, My camera has a 90x zoom so what ever it is it was up very high and it stopped several times and I don't think planes can do that.
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>>17532633
>>the government has said UFOs exist, why don't you believe them?
>>omg what do you mean you don't believe in UFOs, you must be one of those gov't paid deniers!
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>>17539380
why are the lights in the Kursk photo in front of the branches if the UFO is some distance behind them?
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>>17539372
>>try and debunk them

that's not how it works. YOU have to prove they are real. YOU have to put forward some sort of argument that these pictures contain something extraordinary.
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>>17539385
X-files episode
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>>17531996
>bugs have jetstreams and birds fly in a gaggle
Yeah okay
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>>17532633
Obama personally texted me a pic of his UFO in the shop getting some tune-ups.
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Here's a way anyone can see them for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCKX4Ir7m9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGVCSIcDE
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>>17531996
/thread
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>>17539415
shit saw this on my way home
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>>17530308
Lol, yeah you are right.
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Can any PhD holder look at the linked image and tell me what is wrong?
Be sure to zoom it to its original size.

http://ser.sese.asu.edu/MOON/CLEM_COLOR/farside.tiff

It is a tiff image of the farside of the moon.
The link is from Arizona State University's website.
I'm not sure what to make of the... whatever... on the image. i may be high.

I'm sure >>17530293 will love to look at it.

Go to the link -->
http://ser.sese.asu.edu/MOON/CLEM_COLOR/farside.tiff
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>>17541240
>http://ser.sese.asu.edu/MOON/CLEM_COLOR/farside.tiff

>.tiff

opinion discarded
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>>17541281
>OMG i don't like the format
>hur durr discarded
this is why /x/ is touted as to have the lowest IQ on the entire internet.
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>>17541240
>>17541281
>>17541294
here's my better thread -
>>>/sci/7976213
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>>17532115
When I was a kid, I saw something like this in my bedroom at night. I thought that it was just a fairy or an angel, so I didn't really cared about it. Thinking back, it was a really interesting encounter desu.
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>>17539335
you gotta be over 18 to post here son.
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>>17531439
fukken THIS. It doesn't seem like an obviously faked video, noone has ever come forward to admit faking it, nor has anyone really made any money off of it. It's the one video which seems like it could actually be genuine. COULD.
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>>17531554
More like: Why even exist? Lmao
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>>17541775
so you look at that camera angle/darkened room conveniently hiding the alien's entire lower body from view and go 'yeah doesn't seem fake'?

I got some sick ass alien videos for you, then, just gotta turn my lights off and dust off my cheap rubber Halloween prop alien.
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>>17540303
The lights are bright enough and the picture is blury enough that the stick isnt visable in the photo...happens almost any time you shine a light at a camera behind something thin
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>>17540307
Yes and i did...these photos retard

The question: are aliens/ufos real

My proof: photographic evidence

Your proof:"THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS ANON"

please get some help
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>>17541240
>>17541281
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>>17543038
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>>17543040
>>17541281
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>>17543045
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>>17541732
i want drakeposters to leave
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>>17543048
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The Omega Conspiracy Dr. I D E Thomas
http://www.scribd.com/doc/112899052/The-Omega-Conspiracy-Dr-I-D-E-Thomas

The Alien Agenda and the NWO
http://youtu.be/X2ZvE40HilE

I.D.E. Thomas: The First To Expose The "Alien" Strong Delusion
http://youtu.be/H1_BmEJ39DM

Jacques Vallee - Messengers of Deception
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33478326/Jacques-Vallee-Messengers-of-Deception

David Jacobs - The Threat
http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Jacobs,%20David%20-%20The%20Threat.pdf

Fallen Angels, Yoga & Hinduism, New Age, New World Satanic Order
http://youtu.be/K97yB1-4Ers
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>>17540605
> birds fly in a gaggle
they don't?
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>>17539767
So nobody is going to comment on mine ok...
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Ayy lmao
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>>17544208

Looks like a nebula.
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so many retarded autists in this thread. seriously, most of you should go kill yourselves
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>>17531996
MIB shill please go
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>>17544415
get a life autistic beta incel
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>>17531996
what about -
>>17541240
>>17543038
>>17543040
>>17543045
>>17543048
>>17543070
reminder - Arizona State University's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory works on all missions of NASA.

>and you thought dr. steven greer had real proof.
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>>17544373
>most of you should go kill yourselves
how about you go and kill yourself?
follow your own advice.
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>>17543530
That's the point. He said >>17531996 about>>17531507.
Saying it was a flock of birds and a bug.
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>>17541732
>Implying over 18 year olds don't think drake's retarded
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>>17541240
Am i not seeing whatever it is or is it just a pic of the moon?
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>>17531996

People that make these absurdly long, uninteresting posts addressing essentially every other post in the thread need to be fucking liquidated.
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>>17531576
Do you have a single fact to back up reality doesn't just exist in your consciousness? If you stop existing reality as an experience will also... If there is no experience what is there?
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>>17545547
Not him, but I'm not sure that has anything to do with that post >>17531569
Wouldn't those things still be possible either way?

But to answer this question anyway, at the heart of it is the question of whether or not other people experience as you do rather than actually just being life-like chunks of biomass that can behave in complex ways and you're the only entity that actually "experiences".

If we assume the former then by symmetry considerations (i.e. the laws of the game must be the same for everyone) when others die, reality doesn't disappear for you, so when you die why should it disappear for them? So in this case we would conclude that reality is objective and doesn't depend on your personal consciousness. Everyone's free to believe whatever they want, but I think it's easy to see that this is the case most likely to be true.
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>>17545508
There are a bunch of censored strips all along the interior of the picture. Why censor the moon? What is there to censor in the first place?
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>>17542094
Sorry I missed the part where you conclusively proved those photos weren't fakes, mistakes or misinterpretations.

I also missed the point where you actually said what they were of and what their provenance was.
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>>17531525
That's plainly a weather balloon jesus...
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>>17530293
You're goddamn right aliens don't exist...

... ANYMORE
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I used to try to make a normal ufo thread and got called a retard newfag while there are 20 tulpa and AP threads in the catalogue.
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>>17549805
dude thunderchild did in like, two fighting machines before getting its pasta stirred
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>>17530930
Same
>be me
>11th grade me and my best friend make our way to the bus stop
>4 blocks away from my home
> 6am here in Michigan in the winter is dark
>i love looking at the stars so I normally look up
> see a oval bright shaped object moving in varies motions left to right , right to left very quickly
>then bam! (In silence ) took off in one direction going ,id say fighting light years
>minutes maybe even seconds later a military jet flys in that direction following it
>me and my friend look at eachothers in disbelief
>I didn't believe in ufos until that day
>I will never forget it
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>>17547834
Ohhhh, I'm retarded. I thought that was just distortion. Wasn't looking close enough.
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>>17531554
>thinking that we won't be able to do something in the future because of our ignorance today

That's always a losing bet.
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>>17532096

That shit looks like flares to me, anon.

Greer is a fucking hack and a fraud, and as much as he charges idiots to come see the "aliens", he has plenty left over to pay his cronies to stand off in the distance and launch the "aliens" on cue. Nigger showed a picture of a moth and claimed it was an "alien".

I'm surprised he hasn't been charged with fraud yet.
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>>17551259
>I'm surprised he hasn't been charged with fraud yet.
He's being paid to conduct a smear campaign, they won't let him be charged with fraud because then it would single him out rather than make him look like "just another ufo nutjob"
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>>17539431
>why would someone go through the time and effort of making a full body detailed alien just to take a picture of a pictere of it and post on deep web to get no popularity?

Because people are dicks.
Because they found the picture somewhere else and posted it as their own.
Because of any number of reasons, anon.
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>>17531439
Sorry, but fake.
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>>17540307
>that's not how it works. YOU have to prove they are real.

Sure, if you're lazy, or just a debunker.

While I agree that the photos in question wouldn't be enough evidence for me simply due to the fact that it's too easy to fake such things, that doesn't mean I would completely discount photographic evidence to prove, or disprove, something.

We draw conclusions based on the best evidence available, not based on THE best evidence. The best evidence to describe the outer planets is actual samples of them, but we can't get that because they're too far away, so we make conclusions based on the best available evidence, which is through light spectrum analysis and shit.

The same thing applies to UFO's.

Too bad most of the shit in this thread is obviously garbage, though.
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>>17541775
The thing looks like a puppet, anon.
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>>17551526
>Too bad most of the shit in this thread is obviously garbage, though.
you did not see my post [>>17541240] then.

keep in mind my source.

tell me why there would be so much censoring on a picture of moon compiled by NASA?
if there's only rocks and sand on the moon, then why are they trying to hide it?
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>>17549620
>>17549620
>>>17542094 (You)
> I missed the part where you conclusively proved those photos weren't fakes, mistakes or misinterpretations.

Fucking christ anon, you really are some sort of retard arent you... how the hell am i supposed to point out the real parts...it takes someone skilled in photography to do that, it doesnt take someone skilled to say what they think looks fake in a photo

To make it easier for you to understand, take this string of posts:
>>17539431
>>17539436
>>17539519
>>17539529
>>17539534
>>17539556
This is me and another anon looking at 1 of the photos i posted, he pointed something out that looks fake, then i said good point (if i were to disagree, i wouldve said i think that looks real, look at this...)

Even if i did point out the parts that made me think it was real, you would still end up saying what parts looked fake to you...you're trying to add a step that is 100% redundant.

>I also missed the point where you actually said what they were of and what their provenance was.

Im pretty sure if you have working eyes and half a working brain, you can clearly tell what is in the photos...if you're asking for the background story, then i saddly dont have one because when i found these photos on the deep web, they had no description other than "leaked classified photos from 3 government computers" or something along those lines.

If this shit is b8 then good fucking job, i took it

Never thought I'd have to teach someone how to debunk something

>pic related, an example of how a debunking process normally goes: something paranormal is posted, someone looks for answer, and posts what they found...
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>>17531996
Despite the fact that I agree with most of this, you still come off like a total douche bag
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>>17532096
Literally fucking flares. Funny how they start off high and slowly fall. Just like a flare on a parachute. The one that came first also went out first. He's using a laser to signal the boat. The one on the right is always lower because it was shot first. The light pulses, just like a burning flare. This guy is a total quack. He sounds like he's on some good ass drugs. I'd need to be high as shit to sit on some beach in the middle of the night with that asshole. Fucker probably has a huge boner as he puts on his little "show"
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>>17532153
Brits always had the best sense of humor
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>>17530284
Because this board is full autism mode. Nothing but fucking tulpas and magic jizz.
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>>17539415
when that kush hits you
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>>17539767
Cool planet, bro. It's Mars, or Venus. I saw Mars real bright through a screen window and whipped out my Handicam like ITS HAPPENING

I was lying in bed, shitting myself and zooming in on the thing. Screen made it look like three lights just hovering there. I was thinking it could fucking see me. I finally decided to "spring the trap" and go outside for a better look. I realised it looked a lot like a star, but not flickery like one therefore planet. Mars was close and extra bright at the time.
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15 or 16 years ago I witnessed a large, bright navy blue, diamond shaped flying object, rotating on its own axis, moving fast, almost as fast as a plane, flying at low altitude.
I was not high or drunk, it happened many years before trying my first drug. Two friends also saw it.
Someone suggested we witnessed a hot air balloon but it moved incredibly fast.
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>>17531439

>Nutted but she still suckin'
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Ok anons, if you haven't heard of AnonymousFO then youve been missing out... here are a fiew links to my favorite videos of

http://www.anonymousfo.com/BestOfYear/bestufosof2010.html

>thoughts on clip at 3:45

http://www.anonymousfo.com/BestOfYear/bestufosof2012.html

>thoughts on clip at 6:05

http://www.anonymousfo.com/BestOfMonth/BestUFOsOf2013/bestofApril2013.html

>thoughts on clip at around 3:50

http://www.anonymousfo.com/BestOfYear/bestufosof2008.html

> thoughts on the clip at 6:17 (favorite clip)
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>>17551674

The issue with photo's today is the fact that practically any motivated junior high student can alter them, so it's possible that the photo's you're talking have been falsified by you, or someone else.
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>>17552521
>falsified by you, or someone else
they are from Arizona Sate University's website.
the same Arizona university whose Lunar Propulsion lab works on all NASA missions.

check-mate.
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>>17535740
Good episode
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>>17552524
Who posted them?

Just because they're on a university server doesn't give them automatic credibility, anon.

How do we know YOU don't work there and posted them after faking them? How do we know that one of the dumb ass college kids that work there didn't doctor them?

We don't.

Steven Greer is / was an M.D., and now he is a fraud quack, so don't let yourself be taken advantage of by what some idiots perceive as "credentials".
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>>17552546
>Who posted them?
>We don't.
the images haven't been modified since 2002.
see pic related.
take extra time to see the sizes of the cub.gz files. i'm sure no student had the computational power back then to doctor a images as heavy as 1.2 GB.

>mfw at least you agree the images have actually been doctored and censored.
>one step at a time, guys.

>Steven Greer is / was an M.D., and now he is a fraud quack
agreed
his earlier work is good though. circa 2001 was what made me take interest in the UFO/alien field
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>>17552584
sorry forgot the pic
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>>17531996
You're an annoying dickhead. I'm sure you've been told this more times than you can count, by now, though. Each time you wrote the person off as a hoax and it hasn't affected your behaviour a single bit.
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>>17552637
what makes it worse is that he
>does it for free!!
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>>17552584
>the images haven't been modified since 2002.

Exactly.

Which means there's about a 30 year long chain of custody we are unaware of, since those pictures were probably taken during the Apollo missions in the late 60's / early 70's.
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>>17552079
I don't see anything that can't be easily replicated with a drone, balloons, or some other kind of remote controlled aircraft, anon.

Unless there is an obviously otherworldly example of performance, like accelerations or turns that can't be replicated by human craft, then the footage is pretty much worthless without a LOT of detail.
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>>17539380
>that obvious cg abberation

kek
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>>17530284
I don't know. They used to be pretty popular and well received unless you word it bad or used something with ayy.
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>>17552693
1 of the videos is from 2008...before drones were a thing

And do you not see the distance some of them had??

>there was 1 video that had what you described but cant find it on his website
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>>17530284
ayy lmao
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>>17553242
>And do you not see the distance some of them had??

How is it possible to judge distance using an unknown object, anon? You can't.

There was a vid where the dude claimed an object was buy mountains that were obviously far away, however, the object he filmed could very well have originated in his own neighborhood due to the fact that we don't know it's size, and can't properly get a reasonable perspective based solely on the film. Combine that with the fact that the dude didn't even try to get closer, and that could easily be a staged event by the film guy.
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>>17539556
>Also when you think of it, 1 set has whit eyes with pupils while the other set has plain black eyes so if one is actually real, then the other is almost definitely fake

Look at these pictures of humans, they're totally fake because one picture has brown eyes and the other has blue!! totally fake
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>>17530284
I honestly believe that this alien was legitimate

The face just seems real, it has an actual nose instead of just 2 holes, it's eyes don't take up it's entire head, it also has eye lids which it uses to blink. Seeing that clip was the first to actually get my attention.

If the clip is fake then whoever made it actually put some thought into it.
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>>17554331
That's great footage, however, I think that if it WAS real, we'd see more of it.

Shit would be great in a movie for sure.
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>>17531507
no people do that on thier own no reason for the government to pay people.
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>>17531536
The photo is so fuzzie how can anyone make out what it is?
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>>17545526
This
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>>17539415
I'll tell you what, I don't know if these are real or not, but they scare the every living FUCK out of me. They don't look like the funny little big eyed greys we're used to ayy lmaoing about. These look...like living creatures and they fuck my shit up.
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>>17554331
pic related is actually real.
see how he blinks.
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>>17530284
if they were smart enough to travel this far why what would they gain by visiting us?
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>>17531996
Dammit, i can't find it, but there's real footage from Scotland or England.

It was done on a handheld in the 90s in a rural area. The signature was dirt that was flying through the air, making it impossible to motion track so it was confirmed authentic
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>>17554856

The same thing we would if we found a planet with a species that were still in the hunter/ gatherer phase of their development.
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my fav is this guy. he literally spent his entire life combing through NASA VHS tapes of space shuttle missions looking for aliens and all he found were a few glitches on the tapes so he decided the glitches were the aliens. autism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITH3gwccX0A
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>>17554914

Of all those tapes, I've only seen one thing that looked legit due to the fact that there is a damn near 90 degree directional change made by one object, with another making a directional change that is pretty similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOMn-l3L9iA

Whatever they are, they seem to defy the laws of physics, which makes it reasonable to conclude that they are under some kind of intelligent control, and if not us, then who?

Inanimate objects don't do what those things do on video.
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>>17554914
>using "phenomena" as the singular form
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>>17554952
there's loads of such videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwT5A2cPlsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNyNL1KM3rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujW90JOYCY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQXssakBlw
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Here's another one that's actually pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pAOaDKPg7g&nohtml5=False

It moves in an elliptical pattern at tremendous speed, which means it is under intelligent control, as Newton figured out long ago that objects move in a straight line unless blah blah blah...
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>>17555027

It's too easy to fake moon photos, anon.
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>>17554952
The camera was zooming out, it didn't really change direction
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>>17555044
how easy is it to fake retroreflectors placed on the moon by astronauts?
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>>17555027
>zetens
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>>17555044
ok. i agree.

BUT let me tell you about Roswell incident then.

>something fell from the sky
>military comes and scoops up everything.
>Military intelligence Major has to give a statement to national newspapers on the spot. he's quick to say, "yo dawg, we found a flying saucer, muh nigga! how cool is that?"
>newspapers print "USAF recovers a flying saucer"
>next day newspaper prints "lol, just a weather balloon goyim, nothing to see here."

again
>Military INTELLIGENCE official of the rank of fucking MAJOR
>looks at the wreckage and is like - "doesn't look like a weather balloon, definitely looks like a flying saucer, so if a NATIONAL newspaper asks me, that's what im gonna say. lol."
please don't tell me a military intelligence major could not identify a weather balloon, or a B52 bomber, or a stealth jet. or his mothers boxers.

no, i won't find you the newspaper article, google it yourself.
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>>17555054
>it didn't really change direction...

What part of the object moving toward the Earth, from left of camera to right, and then making an approximately 75ish degree turn resulting in it moving parallel to the Earth, from bottom to top, do you not understand as being what we here on Earth call a "turn"?
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>>17555098
Dumbass, the object was moving in its final direction the camera zooms out makes a streak on the screen, looks like a change of direction

Fuck you fags always do this looking for your smoking gun whatever notice the clip isolates the object without the highly relevant camera zoom?

Anyway this is RETARDED when you have so much evidence: magonia database, Hassdalen lights, government archives...

>hurt Durr look at this object apparently do some shit in space zoom in on it
>literally thousands of documented cases over hundreds of years seen by millions of people
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>>17555069
First off, it wasn't Maj. Marcell that talked to the press, it was the base public affairs officer, Lt. Haut, who gave the local media a press release approved by, and ordered by, the base commander, Col. Blanchard.

Second, I agree that there is no fucking way in hell that the Air Force would confuse any of the debris, seen in the Ramey photo's, for a flying saucer. Nor do I believe that ANY kind of balloon would result in what happened.....unless that fucking balloon was carrying a flying saucer looking thing that fell off.......but that's not what happened either.

Pic related: Air Force lies about obvious balloon debris

TLDR: I don't believe the Air Force story either...
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>>17555126

Are you commenting on the right video, anon?

>>17554952


The objects turn, and the camera doesn't zoom for shit, as the size of the objects remains uniform, and the perspective of the Earth doesn't change.

Get your eyes checked.
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>>17555128
>TLDR: I don't believe the Air Force story either...
and 1 incident is enough for me.
as far as i am concerned, if they lied once, they lied all the other times as well.
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>>17555128
How do you know the area had a flying saucer in it?
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>>17539380
>>17539415
>>17539420
Nigga it's not like if I wanted to sleep or something
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>>17555156
I don't.

However, the Air Force claimed they captured a flying saucer, then they changed their story to an obvious lie, and when they got called out on it later on down the road, they changed it again to another obvious lie.

Since the Air Force has never offered any reasonable explanations for their fuck up and obvious deception, I'm going to believe the first story they put out, which is corroborated by the on site intel officer, the public affairs dude, and the chief of staff of their commanding unit.
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>>17555209
Where did you hear the chief of staff report?
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>>17539372
>>17540307
I'm with the guy talking about who has to prove stuff

There are so many claimed alien/UFO photos, and 99-100% of them are fake, so assuming that whichever you find is real until proven wrong is just wishful thinking

Besides, logic of argumentation is that whoever delivers the claim (this is real) is obligated to prove it, not others' job to debunk it

[spoiler]There's a kettle orbiting Jupiter, prove me wrong![/spoiler]
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>>17553438
I never said color idiot i was pointing out the pupils... if you see a photo of person with regular pulils and the other has completely bright green eyes with no pupils or retnas, then obviously one photo is photoshopped or the peron is waring contacts, and i doubt that the extraterrestrial is waring contacts

I sware its like youre just trying to find things to fight about...youre pathetic.
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>>17554331
>>17554376
>>17554604
Anons please... i used to think this was real when i first got into aliens and such, plus at the time this video was made had extraordinary special affects...but looking at it now, it should be easy to see that it was cgi

Plus think about it, do you really think the government would let something this extreme slip, and wouldnt the original channel that uploaded this be deleted? Since they aren't...its clear that its a hoax
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>>17555705
disinfo agents has done a number on you.
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>>17555690
Please read this: >>17551731


The "claim" is aliens/ufos are real...and my "evidence" is photographic evidence of them

Your guys counter argument is "no anon, you have to give proof for your proof, and proof for that too"

God damn you anons need to stop acting like you know how a debate/arguement works...its embarrassing

[spoilers dont work here] show some photographic evidence and you have yourself a debate anon [/spoilers dont work here]
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>>17555730
No anon i just have a good eye for cgi...

Take this old video for example...
https://youtu.be/jDReYBuHPH4

Everyone including me thought it was real for a while, then proof like this came out
https://youtu.be/lLRbTtd8IKM

Sadly the alien videos we disagree on dont have enough content to find flaws this big on... though the main explanation for why the cgi looks so good for the untrained eye, is because of the fuzzy black and white filter put over it.
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>>17555747
what are your thoughts about the norway spiral and the vatican one?
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>>17555751
Good choices anon...i love these 2 cases

The norway spiral had waaaay too many angles and evidence for it to have been a hoax..something was obviously there. I used to think that the malfunctioned missle excuse was retarded but then i actually looked up malfunctioning missles and saw that they looked pretty simalar (though they werent as perfect as the norway event)
Also there are 2 clips in this video (one of my favorite videos other than AnonymousFOs) https://youtu.be/RjGYSGbAEUM
The clip at 2:30 shows the spiral actually open up which ive never seen in any missle video

And a clip at 5:38 that shows something exactly like the norway spiral but in Russia and it starts off differently than the norway one.

As for the Jerusalem ufo (also shown in the video)
That one would be very difficult to hoax but maybe possible. There were only 3 angles and they were all simalar. But on the other hand only one of the videos shows lights twinkling in a triangle when pointed at the sky where the other 2 videos dont show it...you would think that hoaxers would want to keep it consistent. So that one is 50/50...looks real real and nothing really points to a fake, but it is hoax-able if effort is put.

>also there is supposedly a close up video of the Jerusalem ufo but its hard to find. And ive only seen it once
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>>17555771
>only seen it once
should've saved it, my man.

also the tether incident was awesome.
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>>17555735
Alright, i still believe whoever brings up the photos should bring up arguments for it, seeing as they give a fairly big claim on their own, but none the less

I'm gonna assume we're talking about those four pics posted by the guy who started this discussion so here

>>17539372
This pic is from the so called "lockheed UFO case" from the early 1950s
Though this photo was (allegedly) taken in Area 51, it is apparently just a dome meant to be put on a new type of plain that didn't get much use later
google WV-2E 126521 and you'll find pics of it¨

In any case, it's just a dome, which is hardly proof of anything

>>17539385
Googling shows results of people saying this is props for an episode of The X-Files, made by Mike Fields. there's even an anon in this very thread saying that.
And the next two, i couldn't find debunking for, so instead, i'll just give some context, like the poster should've done, or at least have done some research themselves, instead of just leaving everything to imagination


>>17539380
The bigger, is as the photo states from germany 2009. couldn't find much about this one, but it does seem most links it with the other pic, as well as the Green Bay, Wisconsin UFO photos (which are actually really good)

the "russian" one is actually from Weyauwega, Wisconsin, 2003, there are two more photos, google Weyauwega, Wisconsin UFO
The witness herself at first thought it was a balloon, but saw it more of a disc-shape when it flew away, so she claims


>>17539382
This seeems to be from the Kongka La pass in the Himalayas between India and China, where locals have reported several UFOs, and some even believe there's some sort of chinese/indian conspiracy in the forbidden area of the mountains
Google Earth has in fact proven that there is some sort of facility/base there
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>>17531439
this video was the reason back in 2007 as of why i made a youtube account.
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>>17556423
Why? To shitpost in the comment section?
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>>17555413

The gentleman on the right side of the picture in this post: >>17555128
is Tommy Dubose, and he's sitting next to Gen Roger Ramey on the left. Roger Ramey was the 8th Air Force commander, and Dubose was his chief of staff at the time. They were the commanding headquarters of the 509th bomb group stationed at Roswell army airfield.

Stan Friedman found Tommy Dubose, who retired as a Brig Gen, and interviewed him about the Roswell incident. He admitted that the balloon story was indeed a cover up mandated by his higher headquarters in Washington.

Here's part of the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4yVEEff8Gw
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>>17556700
like i said, only one incident is enough to prove everything.
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>>17556710

The Roswell case has always amazed me due to the fact that people actually try to defend the balloon story, as if a weather balloon, a Mogul balloon, or any other kind of fucking balloon, is going to make somebody believe they found a "flying saucer", let alone the Air Force.

That's just lunacy....and yet people defend that to this day.
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>>17531439
The only time I was contacted by extraterrestrials was after a long night of drinking Ayahuasca, and they traveled from their Universe/Reality directly into my mind.
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>>17555823
Thanks anon, its good to see that you put the argument behind you, and did a very large amount of research as well.

I cant really spend the time looking up the details of every photo i find after i get done finding them for a few hours...

Plus ive been posting my ass off this thread.
>>17539372
>>17539380
>>17539382
>>17539385
>>17539388
>>17539394
>>17539415
>>17539420
>>17539431
>>17539436
>>17539447
>>17539525
>>17539529
>>17539556
>>17542083
>>17542094
>>17551731
>>17552079
>>17553242
>>17555691
>>17555705
>>17555735
>>17555747
>>17555771
All my posts

But besides that, a real challenge would be if you can find anything on these 2 photos
>>17539415
>>17539420
Cause i cant find anything on them on the clearnet and almost all sites that even show these photos, are in another language... also i found a third photo

>pic related
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https://youtu.be/Oljrjxnixtw must watch this.
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>>17557965

I'd say the probability of Phil Schneider being a complete and total fraud are pretty close to 100%, anon.

As a military dude, his accounts don't reflect any of my experiences with the military, secure facilities, or the people that operate them.

He ranks right up there with Clifford Stone as far as frauds go, IMO.
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>>17556700
How come none of this is in the bluebook archive?
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>>17558274

I don't know, anon, I'm not familiar with the blue book archive other than special report 14.

Regardless, I don't think the information released by blue book to the public was designed to do anything but show that there was "nothing" to UFO stories.
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real alien
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>>17558521
Fake.
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>>17558554
This.

Definitely a photoshop.
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>>17557927
>I cant really spend the time looking up the details of every photo i find after i get done finding them for a few hours...
You know, you should. cause if you don't, you don't even know what sort of bullshit you're spreading around
besides, the good stuff is a lot more interesting if you share context
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>>17560180
True but like i said, most of the stuff i find is on the deep web and its a bitch to navigate on there, especially for alien based sites...takes me a good 2 or 3 hours to get a decent amount of photos.
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>>17560227

Seems like there's a lot of bullshit on the "deep" web.
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>>17555735
you're googling UFO photos and posting them without having any idea where they come from and expecting people to be able to explain them at the drop of a hat or else ALIEUMS

not sure if trolling or just typical pathological stupidity that UFO nutters possess.
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>>17551731
>> i just found these photos on the deep web guiz they must be legit
>>no i don't know anything about them
>>i'm not smart enough to examine them for signs of fakery
>> i haven't done any work to verify them myself

right, but EVERYONE ELSE is the retard here.
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>>17556772
are you the guy from the other thread who kept fixating on Marcel's rank and the words 'flying disc' and refused to even look at Mac Brazel's description of what he found?
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>>17560527
Are you the guy from the other thread that was fixated on what was written in the second press release to cover up the first press release, and refused to acknowledge how it was possible for any rational adult to mistake common materials for a flying saucer?

You are, aren't you.
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>>17560521
yes
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>>17560384
There is... like 70-80%of the deep web is free bit coin scams and drug outlets....10% is just cheese pizza,5-7% are random, and like a good 3-5% is conspiracy, government files, and paranormal
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>>17560521
>>17560499
Read these:
>>17560227
>>17557927


I never said they were legit because they were on the deep web... i said that i found them there and some of them arent on the claernet, and if something isnt on the clearnet, its most likely illegal, the source that something doesnt want it to be on the clearnet, or the government doesnt want it on the clearnet.

On the deep web sites i was able to find, they didnt have any info on the photos, if the deep web doesnt have any info, and the clearnet doesnt even have the photo, then how ghe hell am i going to get any info on it dumbass?

And like i said ive spent hours on the deep web, if you want info on the pictures the least you can do is take a your time to look for a description.

And i have a good eye but thats all, i cant run any of the photos through tests to see if there was any messing around with them because im not a photo expert, all i can do is look at the photo very closely and deside myself if its realistic...which is what i did

Jfc you guys are making yourselves look stupid...i suggest you stop before you hurt your brain looking for more things to argue about
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>>17560547
still furiously avoiding that Brazel statement

do you just sit in front of your computer typing MARCEL MAJOR PRESS RELEASE MARCEL MAJOR PRESS RELEASE all day, wondering why everybody laughs at you?
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>>17560840
classic UFO aggropoast

I'M NOT AN EXPERT I JUST DECIDED THEY LOOK REALISTIC followed immediately by a UR STUPID. The sad thing is the faggot posting this sort of garbage is likely a grown-ass man, not the snotty pre-teen you'd expect.

No attempt to contact ufological institutions, no attempt to read books or otherwise do anything besides sit at a computer, claiming expertise without actually referring to technical training or skill... and ufologists wonder why their field has become a complete Tumblr-grade shitshow that nobody takes seriously.
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>>17560840
look @ this fucking mess of a post: "I didn't say they were legit because they were on the deep web I said they were on the deep web which is where government secrets are so therefor they are legit."

This guy has been DESTROYING himself the ENTIRE thread and yet, talks like its everyone else that's the moron.

"I have these photos of ayyylmao spacecraft as proof they exist."
>>how do we know they're ayylmao spacecraft
"I looked at them and they looked like spacecraft"
>> can you provide any info to back this up?
"NO I'm too busy finding more photos that I have no background information for but am 100 percent certain they are alien spacecraft, why don't you go do my work for me while I keep doing the same thing over and over."
>>you're stupid
"NUH UHHHHH UR THE STUPID"
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>>17560930
hue hue
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People, please do some research on pics before posting them
and include the context too, please

>>17557927
gonna continue now

>>17539394
Could barely find any websites with that pic other than tumblr and pinterest, so i doubt it's anything but some clip from a black-white era movie

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>>17539420
>>17539431
>>17539436
Couldn't find anything other than those pics themselves, at least as old as 2013
nothing on where they came from, nothing on who took them, nothing on what it's supposed to be, nothing nothing nothing
First two could have been drawn, and then a photo was taken of the drawing

don't know what last two are, but i'm not giving credit to something that has 99% chance of being a movie prop
Found them on places like some spanish site with strangely many of your "deepweb" pics, and a blog titled "deep web" with strangely many 4chan pictures
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