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What do we think of Antarctica?
Is it a huge wall of ice that encircles us? A nazi base? Aliumz?
Since this flat earth business has been in articles and headlines lately, I've developed a curiosity about Antarctica and want to explore some theories about it. Figured there's no better place than here to get the ball rolling.
>>17290198
It is a big continent covered by big chunk of ice. Not much to see, please don't fall for that flat earth bullcrap!
>>17290198
What's north of North Pole?
>>17290198
Even having your curiosity sparked by flat Earthers makes you a colossal faggot OP.
>>17290200
not op
but what about operation highjump or the possibility that mankind foundation started there? Linguistic, math, and etc???
realistic theories i say
>>17290209
A wall of ice around the world is a pretty interesting theory, shitbird
>>17290198
It's the south pole of our spherical earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRnFmgOrf8&index=6&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG
>>17290211
I am "mason", so - I have had my very own theory about high jump. They found a Nazi base, they threw the bomb at it, end of the story.
What about Linguistic, Math etc? Its fucking Antarktika.
>>17290203
Nothing. The north pole is in the middlemost part of the concentric arrangement of the continents.
>>17290234
Nice video
>>17290212
No, no it really isn't. It's mind numbingly ridiculous and is absolutely impossible. Educate yourself sometime, it'll pay off.
>>17290255
according to what other people have told you?
how do you decide who to believe?
>>17290309
Because I'm not an egomaniacal moron. I trust what has been proven, not what some random person who's never set foot outside his basement says the world is like. Outside the mountains of photographic and physical evidence that the Earth is flat, basic physics will tell you that it makes no sense whatsoever. But by all means, keel asserting that you are in fact the smartest person alive because of belief in "alternative" theories. I'm sure you'll lead a happy, fulfilling, and productive life!
>>17290323
Other than being up in the sky and looking back at the earth, all you have to go on is information based off of someone that essentially has the same resources as you or anyone else now with the internet
Look, I think flat Earth theories are ridiculous but honestly, I don't know. I've never been to space. I cannot confirm if what we're being told is all lies or truth. I think the Earth is spherical. Maybe not perfectly spherical. But it certainly isn't a disk as far as I'm concerned. But again, I do not know. I only know what I've been shown.
>>17290234
Now I'm going through all these videos
>>17290329
Holy. Fucking. Shit. You retarded motherfucker. You just described why YOU are wrong you smoldering shitstain. You can do the math yourself. The Earth is round. And no, the people who have been in space don't have the same resources as me you fuckwit. They have billions of dollars and teams of scientists backing them up. YOU are the one who has nothing but a team of fat NEETS backing you up. THEY have no proof. YOU are not the fucking emporer of the world, and nobody is obligated to take your uneducated ass into fucking space just to prove something to you a fucking 2nd grader can understand. Honestly, rethink your life pal. You're not doing anybody any good backing the fever dreams of the mentally ill.
>>17290357
Awesome! I'm glad to hear it. Make sure to tell others when you're done.
>>17290198
its muslim propaganda. the reason its poped up more recently is kebabagedaboom across europe.
european liberals have zero conviction in anything.
>"omg some one might hurt me if i dun say what they wan... sure da erf is flat ery won noe dat"
>>17290361
> You can do the math yourself.
You mean like eratosthene, who's math would work out the same if the earth were flat and the sun was 3100 miles up and 32 miles across like flat earthers are saying? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs&feature=youtu.be&t=3m40s
>>17290361
The only advantage they have over you is saying that they've been to space. I don't know why you're so worked up about this.
Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?
>>17290203
South?
Going with the flat earth, wouldn't it have to be more of a square earth?
Or, at the very least, have a back side?
>>17290357
Hell with that. Let >>17290234 sum up one article of "proof" from any of his videos, and if we can't shoot it down, *then* go check out the vids.
Otherwise, you're just putting money in that asshole's pocket, and I'm utterly convinced he doesn't believe one damn thing he's saying. If you think they're worth it for the entertainment value, don't let me stop you, but don't think for one instant you're going to convince him he's wrong when he's got a vested, possibly monetary interest in being right.
In short, don't feed the shills.
>>17290403
>>17290234 here
Whatever, square. Each video is short af. If you wanna know, there it is. If not I'm not going to drag you. There is an opportunity cost to everything and I'll not drag one when I could lead many. Its your own loss.
>>17290198
like.. ppl saying earth is flat and i knew that it was a troll. But then it took crazy longer than a troll and ppl still speak about that even on many sites
have i missed a /b/ thread guys? raid time reliving the old days?
>>17290367
No I'm not talking about literal mathematical proofs I'm talking about basic fucking physics. Do you have any idea at all how the Earth was formed at all? I'm guessing not because if you did you would hopefully realize how absurd the Earth not being spherical it is.
>>17290368
You're right. You people aren't worth the hassle. Have fun wallowing in ignorance and wasting your lives!
>>17290411
You gonna delete your threads like you do every other time you're challenged?
One point from one video. That's all I've ever asked.
>>17290419
how do you know how the earth was formed?
>>17290403
> I don't understand it, he must be a paid government shill because I always understand everything!
>>17290425
Anon's can't delete threads, newfriend. Mods delete the flat earth thread here. Again, I'm not going to drag you anywhere you don't want to go. It would be a waste of time when I can show people the way who will walk it with their OWN energy. No one has ever been dragged into heaven and no one will ever be dragged there.
>>17290361
This is what happens when someone has been fed shit his whole life he
>>17290425
He's not the OP and if it gets deleted it won't be by my doing
>>17290198
how about the fact people can't privately explore there????
Also nazi super base probably held the secret of an ancient civilization aka Atlantis
>>17290438
And what have you been fed?
>>17290436
Oh, but they totally can. Try starting a new one, give it about 5minutes, and make use of the options in the lower right corner. All you have to do to close a thread yourself is delete the initial post.
Pretty sure they don't archive when you do that.
>>17290436
I'm a Christian and I still think you're full of shit.
>>17290448
The sane shit, but I'm not brainwashed to the point that I can't even question it
>>17290458
You're not a christian.
>>17290450
Don't be thick. That's not what I meant. This is an old, established thread. It can no longer be deleted but by mod. mods have been deleting these threads. They've popped up more since B.o.B.
>>17290309
If the earth is flat how can you sail completely around the earths ocean
>>17290465
What would it take for you to radically change the way you see the world?
>>17290436
You're right, if they're not the thread starter. I'm working off the suspicion that
>>17290198
>>17290234
>>17290362
are all the same guy. If they're not, I apologize, OP.
But OP's still a fag.
>>17290481
Because the continents are arranged in a concentric circle. In the middle is the north pole. If you travel perpendicular to the center of a circle i.e. east or west you will eventually arrive back are your starting point. Circumnavigation is not globe-exclusive.
>>17290487
All but OP is me.
>>17290431
Ok, lets take this step by step:
Gravity pulls things together. I think we can all agree on this.
There are things in the universe. Again, there should be no arguement.
So, with all these "things" (which are just tiny specs of dust) free floating in space, with no other forces acting on them, gravity makes them float towards each other, ok?
Sonce there are no other forces to pull them apart, they stick together when they collide due to the friction of them touching. Make sense?
These bits grow larger and larger, and since they are just, for all intents and purposes, 'randomly' floating around colliding with other bits, they don't grow in any particular direction and are vaguely spherical, maybe even potato shaped, but definitely 3 dimensional. Still with me?
This is where some higher level physics and logic come into play. Eventually these chunks grow to such massive sizes that they have an incredibly powerful gravitational pull. So powerful, that every single speck of dust in it is being pulled to the center simulataneously with huge force,so they all want to get to the center, but are blocked by each other from getting any closer. So the only way they can all get as close to the center as possible is in the shape of a sphere. This is the basic process by which planets are created. Understand?
TL; DR Earth formed in 3 dimensions not 2
>>17290481
>If the earth is flat how can you sail completely around the earths ocean
Like you've ever done that.
Have you even been past the fields at the edge of the village. Or to the base of the mountains on the horizon?
>>17290481
it just goes in circles
>>17290487
OP here, and the post >>17290357 was me as well, which I was doing but pretty much just posted to keep the thread alive
>>17290496
If I said I did would you believe anything other than that I'm a paid shill?
>>17290495
and you know this because someone told you
>>17290512
Point specifically to what you disagree with.
>>17290478
You got a hotline straight to God, do ya? You don't know the state of my soul, and only a deluded fool would presume to.
>>17290368
Because closed mindedness and ignorance will be the end of humanity man. Don't fight the world, work with it to make it a better place.
>>17290514
Quit assuming I disagree with anything in particular.
I'm just trying to convey the point to you that you're just regurgitating things that were fed to you. It's healthy to question everything. Believing something someone with a lot of money and essentially in control of your life and liberty tells you that you can't personally prove is crazier than being suspicious of what is being told to you by that entity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao
Wouldn't a flat earth have an obvious affect on radio transmissions? I imagine that it would be apparent.
>>17290517
"The man said, "Who made you ruler and judge over us?" Some guy to freaking Moses
>>17290484
Not smoking pussy ass Newports, faglord.
>>17290526
Skepticism to the point of closed mindedness will lead you nowhere. I choose to believe what I am taught because, as you said, I can't disagree with it. There's too much proof, and it is backed up by logic and physics. I only disagree with something either when I find fault in it, or a better solution is presented. I don't base my opinions on who says something but what it is that's being said. And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and I need to think harder about it the next time.
There's a place for feelings, and there's a place for reason. Knowing the difference and striking a balance will see you massive amounts of understanding and success, and I hope you can find that balance.
>>17290570
Its mostly camel crush, to be honest.
>>17290526
Prove the earth is flat for me
I will give you 100 blowjobs if you can
>>17290526
You're right. It's good to question. Here's a few "flat"questions for you:
What keeps the sun and moon from falling like Newton's Apple?
What makes them travel in a circle?
Why can't I throw something and see it follow a path similar to the sun and moon?
If the world is flat, how do you explain the findings of the Bedford Level experiment?
If atmospheric refraction plays a role in the aforementioned experiment(it does), then why do flat-earthers say it functions differently in regards to seagoing vessels?
If the sun is only about 32 miles across and roughly 3,000 miles away, how hot is it?
How much higher is "the dome of the heavens" than the sun and moon?
If the earth is flat, why haven't flat-earthers opened their own airline that makes use of a relatively simple trig algorithm to ignore navigating by use of magnetic north, thus allowing them to travel in straight paths far shorter than the "curved" circumtransits airlines currently make?
>>17290541
Oh, so you're Moses now?
>>17290434
Who said anything about the government? I think he's trolling for views for his vids or is some deluded idiot that's already been hooked in and is shilling on the owner's behalf, paid or otherwise.
>>17290212
That would explain the White Walkers.
>>17290617
I am of his spiritual line.
>>17290323
Fuck. this sums up Flat Earthers perfectly.
>>17290198
>>17290198
>Is it a huge wall of ice that encircles us? A nazi base? Aliumz?
Yep.
>>17290497
Wrong.
>>17290609
Flat earther here. here are my no bullshit answers. If I don't know yet, I'll say so. I don't know everything every flat earther knows so keep that in mind. What I don't know today might tomorrow, like the Coriolis effect.
>What keeps the sun and moon from falling like Newton's Apple?
I don't know.
>What makes them travel in a circle?
I don't know.
>Why can't I throw something and see it follow a path similar to the sun and moon?
Becuase the sun follows on a circular circuit that contracts and expands to provide the seasons. You throw something and it goes in a straight line.
>If the world is flat, how do you explain the findings of the Bedford Level experiment?
I don't know the bedford experiment so I can't speak to it specifically but I'll explore the answer and will come back if this thread is still up when I do.
<If atmospheric refraction plays a role in the aforementioned experiment(it does), then why do flat-earthers say it functions differently in regards to seagoing vessels?
See above. Dunno. Yet
>If the sun is only about 32 miles across and roughly 3,000 miles away, how hot is it?
That's a question of measurement, not modeling. I'm sure someone can answer though. That seems really easy to measure. Did you know that moonlight is COOLING? It is.
>How much higher is "the dome of the heavens" than the sun and moon?
about three thousand miles higher. The dome of the heaven is at its highest point about six thousand miles high.
>If the earth is flat, why haven't flat-earthers opened their own...
that is a fantastic question! And the answer will change your world view. Basically, airlines DO travel according to straight lines on the flat earth model already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX61yQnylgI&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG&index=7 It's only 4 minutes and 22 seconds long so please watch.
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ&feature=youtu.be&t=31m4s 31 minutes and 4 seconds in
>>17290532
Guy who posted this here. This guy sucks. I don't like how he see the dome as some sort of nihilistic, alien construction. Be careful not to catch his depression.
>>17290696
>If the earth is flat, why haven't flat-earthers opened their own airline that makes use of a relatively simple trig algorithm to ignore navigating by use of magnetic north, thus allowing them to travel in straight paths far shorter than the "curved" circumtransits airlines currently make?
The airlines already travel the flat earth straight path https://youtu.be/fk4YqPtvJao?t=1h12m20s
>>17290198
I love the idea of settling antarctica. Fuck their shitty treaties.
If i want to go and found a state there I'll do it dammit!
Need to find a source of hydrocarbons somewhere like coal or oil or even some hidden volcano which can generate heat, then operate huge heated greenhouses.
In the center of the continent there is literally no living animals the penguins and seals only exist around the edges.
>>17290905
A guy tried that. To explore antarctica. He was stopped by the chilean government at the border. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id1G_iouuao&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG&index=9
>>17290696
Thank you for replies, now let me explain why I asked the questions that I did.
Slowly, over the course of better than two millennia, mankind has slowly been finding the answers to all those questions for which you had no ready answers. Over the centuries, as the body of human knowledge has grown, we have amended the answers, and on many occasions, tossed out old answers in preference of new answers that better fit the observations we made. At times, we even realized that it was the questions themselves that were the problem, so we formulated better ones.
Over the course of human history, the process I just described came to be formalized into something we now refer to as the scientific method. It is not to be feared. It is not a god. It is merely a tool we use to better understand the physical world around us and the universe.
Now I'm going to watch the video about airplane paths, mainly because you've been courteous and forthcoming, and once I'm done, I'll come back here and tell you what I think. I also have a request to make of you, if you're willing to try it.
This is a little experiment to test whether or not the moon's light has a cooling effect. Science tells us that it's only sunlight reflected off the lunar surface, so at best, we'd expect it to have a slight warming effect. I've already seen a video with a guy using a laser thermometer on his wallet to demonstrate the cooling, and the demonstration left a lot to be desired in terms of scientific rigor; however, the experiment I'm going to suggest in my next post should give us a more accurate picture of the effects of moonlight.
>>17290950
Okay. I await your response. Actually, >>17290844's video is a bit more rigorous. And to add to it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao&feature=youtu.be&t=1h31m58s part 9 adds to it, illustrating the fact that all transoeanic flights in the southern hemisphere turn off their GPS when they leave land.
>>17290950
Another moonlight cooling video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37y-MSBU6iY
>>17290696
>>If the earth is flat, why haven't flat-earthers opened their own...
that is a fantastic question! And the answer will change your world view. Basically, airlines DO travel according to straight lines on the flat earth model already.
jesus fuck I made it ten seconds in and he's talking about the moon landing being a hoax
>>17291047
Because he proved it earlier in the video conclusively so he can say it like its a foregone conclusion. Watch the video in >>17290844
then >>17291032
>be me
>need to fly to ching ching chinky China
>from anywhere in America, fly west
I just finished taking a shit. Why don't you hand me all the paperwork with your flat earth bullshit so I have something to wipe my ass with?
>>17290198
Why don't you check it out for yourself? www.antarcticaflights.com.au
>>17290200
>It is a big continent covered by big chunk of ice. Not much to see, please don't fall for that flat earth bullcrap!
That is why OP made the thread, dingus.
>>17290203
everything
>>17290209
words are reflections of a life time of experiences. please, no one cares about your fetishes and degenerates, filth.
>>17290212
agreed
>>17290228
agreed
>>17290247
ok and then what? Look at japan. japan didn't die. japan is a stronger place than much of the EU. I seriously, SERIOUSLY DOUBT the NAZIs died if they were there and were hit by the bomb.
>>17290323
>I trust what has been proven
lol. here's your (You)
>>17290332
The idea about flat earth is that the earth as we know it is a flat section of a much larger planet we are not allowed to know about and that everything is smoke, mirrors, magic, the matrix, alien earth bound ancient technology or some jazz, man. it's like... it's fucking NUTS.
>>17291078
that doesn't have any significance for or against flat earth. That's not globe-exclusive.
But what's on the east-pole?
>>17291104
>The idea about flat earth is that the earth as we know it is a flat section of a much larger planet we are not allowed to know about and that everything is smoke, mirrors, magic, the matrix, alien earth bound ancient technology or some jazz, man. it's like... it's fucking NUTS.
No it isn't.
>>17290950
The experiment: Measuring temperature changes due to moonlight.
Materials:
3 glass thermometers.
http://www.novatech-usa.com/Products/Measurement-Educational/THPCF1?gclid=CL-6g4Hi0MoCFdcWgQodVnQKBw
2 drinking glasses or jars (straight out of the cupboard is fine, as similar as possible).
1 small cardboard box, large enough to cover one of the glasses and accommodate a thermometer.
Pencil and paper.
Procedure:
1) Fill the glasses with tap water, place a thermometer in each glass, and allow to sit for 30 minutes, with the third thermometer nearby.
2) Check the thermometer readings and record them into separate columns for each.
3) Place both glasses in a location exposed to moonlight, preferably indoors in a climate-controlled room. If such a room is unavailable, place them outside and place the third thermometer in an area not exposed to moonlight. Cover one of the glasses with the cardboard box.
4) Every 30 minutes, record the temperatures on all three thermometers. In a separate column, make note of moon visibility(cloud cover).
5) Repeat Step 4 for three hours.
Now that's just off the top of my head, but it's more in line with what it would take to measure what effect the moon might have on temperature. It might seem tedious and boring, but no one ever said science was for everybody.
>>17290200
>Not much to see
this offends me
>>17291104
Aliens man.. aliens
http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
>>17291095
>>17291427
>four hours there and four hours for the ride to and four hours for the ride back
Nigga, four hours will barely get you from Chicago to Vegas and that's chump change compared to the mass of Antarctica
>>17291453
I did a trip from the very east to the very west of Australia, and that was 3 hours. USA and Australia are nearly the same size. Were you riding a blimp?
>>17291486
>USA and Australia are nearly the same size
Wut
>>17291219
I have an experiment for you
Goto expedia.com
select a flight from Auckland to Buenos Aires
notice length of flight
select a flight from Auckland to Singapore
notice length of flight
end
>>17291486
It takes me three hours just to get halfway through florida fuckwit
>>17291496
Everything's coming together, ore falling apart
>>17290198
FE scientist/researcher here. I can answer any FE question.
>>17290198
Nazis, Antarctica is one of two locations which hold the last bastions of the 3rd Reich
>>17290844
the intended timestamp for all you non-4chan x users is 1:12:20
>>17291032 and 1:31:58
gravity doesn't real
proof is in the antartica
>>17291669
It's true gravity isn't real.
>what is coriolis effect
You can't have a flat earth without re writing physics. What a bunch of retards.
>>17291716
It's been disproven countless times, did you do your research before entering this thread, or are you just here to shitpost?
>>17291729
>disproven
Flat earthers are entertaining
>>17291777
Not a flat Earther, just a FE research scientist.
>>17291729
>physics that are used every day are made up
You have to be a troll
>>17290234
pretty sure the the earth's axis is at a tilt, nice try tho
>>17291557
is it possible to actually literally pray the gay away?
>>17291789
Used by who? We don't use them in the navy. Pretty sure we would need to if they were real.
That stuff is just like black holes and dark matter, it's made up to make quick $$$
>>17291802
>what are snipers
>>17291802
Coriolis effect has a pretty large effect on the oceans. So you do use them in the Navy
>>17291802
What's your rate?
>>17291789
Their actions are closer to srs disinformation than classic trolling.
Using trips is a shortcut for trust and reputation-building. And the fnord code is a nice technical trick for seeming mysticish.
We'll have to poke and prod, or wait, to figure out the end-game, focus or intention.
As it stands idek what "lachabo" means
>>17291825
Are you a sniper? Are/were you in the navy? I don't think so.
>>17291827
We don't. Ask one of us.
>>17291837
I'd like to think true disinformation would be better thought out.
>>17291848
This shit makes me miss fraterk
>>17291825
>>17291827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pG1__IetHY
>>17291851
Not usually.
>>17291848
And what exactly do you do?
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/kits/currents/05currents1.html
>>17290198
This is what Earth actually looks like (without water, obviously)
>>17291501
Nonstop from Auckland to Singapore:
10:30
Total Distance:
8,412 km
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=distance+between+auckland+and+singapore
Nonstop from Auckland to Buenos Aires:
11:40
Total Distance:
10,348 km
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=distance+between+auckland+and+buenos+aires
Now, at first glance, that does look rather odd, but having checked out a couple of things like the typical cruising speed of commercial airliners(somewhere between 870-920 km/hr), how the jet stream works south of the border, I really don't see us needing to embrace a flat earth to account for it.
>>17291875
That's bullshit. The earth is a perfect sphere.
>>17291848
>we don't ask one of us
So, your telling me that my friend who is a marine with a sizable ammout of confirmed sniper kills will tell me its bullshit? Provide any information at all about a physics model that would work with a flat earth. You say all of this is "debunked" without a shred of info. Go back to /b/. You don't have to get up for school tomorrow so you can watch YouTube cosperisies all night that quote the bible. Also that's for proving you lack the fundamental knowelge of someone who would of seved in the Navy. I'm waiting on your next baseless, emotional, and intulectally bankrupt post that just try to polarize instead of arguing a point scientifically.
>>17291862
The US navy had the most success of any participating organisation with mku ltra - related projects
Their approach usees a combination of recivev-chips/antennas , electrolytic treatment of the bodily fluids & EM bombardment...
>>17291887
Absolutely. We snipers don't use the earths rotation to adjust our aim, we use the wind.
every sniper and gunman knows this.
>You don't have to get up for school tomorrow so you can watch YouTube cosperisies all night that quote the bible
you sure are defensive...
>>17291896
Anyway, yeah. This guy gets it. Snipers use the wind.
>>17291896
http://thearmsguide.com/5329/external-ballistics-the-coriolis-effect-6-theory-section/
Confirmed for not a competent sniper or gunman
>>17291904
>theory
uh huh...
>>17291907
explain why hurricanes and typhoons differ fuckwit, flatfags need to get off /x/, it isnt paranormal or even reasonable
>>17291913
>explain why hurricanes and typhoons differ
You realize they're the exact same thing, right? The only difference is the location. Hurricane is used in the Atlantic, Caribbean Sea, central and northeast Pacific. They are typhoons in the northwest Pacific.
>>17291942
I like how you got caught lying about being in the Navy and you still act like you have any shred of credibility
>>17291949
Get caught? What did I say?
>>17291557
>>17291678
>>17291729
>>17291788
>>17291802
>>17291848
>>17291886
>>17291899
>>17291942
>>17291949
It's the hallmark of high-quality disinformation.
Unabashed & relentless.
>>17290198
so long as you didn't develop a curiosity about flat earth
it's nonsense to distract from real issues
just sayin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU
>this is what round earthers believe
>>17292105
Lol... and somehow Polaris stays in the center.
It was entertaining at the very least.
>>17291032
In response to the first video you linked in >>17290696:
:49 - He references a book called "The Australian Handbook & Almanac & Shippers & Importers Directory"(those guys really wanted to cover all the bases), and the only editions of it I can find were all published between 1874 and 1905.
http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=australian+handbook+almanac+importers+and+shippers+directory&fq=&dblist=638&qt=first_page
He might want to consider comparing references that don't have the advent of those crazy "flying machines" between them if he wants to cite them as evidence of some sort of flat earth cover-up.There's been a technological innovation or two between now and then that might have improved our ability to measure distances between locations, one might even go so far as to guess somewhere around an 18% improvement.
1:02 - There's a big difference between circumnavigating something and following its coastline, This guy appears to be confusing the two. Surely, he's just confused. Also, it would be just great if he could provide some sources on those voyage times for Ross and Cook, because for all I know, he could be citing their entire travel time/distance from port to port . . . on exploratory voyages, no less.
1:30 - All this talk of Antarctica being "too cold" is only hitting on the very broadest of reasons not to routinely route flights across the continent. Too cold, too remote, too dangerous, and too sparsely populated for any hope of rescue if you have some sort of equipment failure.
2:09 - Bases "all over" Antarctica. Here's what we're calling "all over:"(pic related), and with a wintertime population of somewhere around 1,500. Now imagine being in a plane crash in Iowa and your closest possible help beng a population of janitors, night watchmen, and midnight-oil-burning researchers scattered around in little coastal towns who collectively couldn't fill the cheap seats in a football stadium.
>>17292162
Continuing.
2:12 - Flight paths. What flight is he even talking about? I found a non-stop on Expedia that beats his estimated time by 1:40. Maybe he's using an airline that's estimating their times based off that old Almanac he mentioned.
2:50 - Found direct flights to everywhere he mentions, except Johannesburg to Santiago, and this site helped my understand what was going on tremendously.
http://www.3dham.com/blog/flatearth2.html
That site also quite rightly points out how much longer some flights should be on a flat earth, but somehow they're not, almost as if we're living on a sphere of some sort.
Also, on a side note, this talk of planes turning off their GPS over water . . . all I can tell you is that at present, the southern hemisphere just hasn't floated enough satellites to guarantee line of sight communication yet, so . . . step it up, southern hemisphere! Here's where I'm getting my info:
http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/2198/why-dont-all-commercial-aircraft-transmit-gps-data-in-real-time.
And this guy >>17290844:
1:12:20 - So just because I can't get a direct flight from Capetown to Sydney, the fact that I can still get a non-stop from Johannesburg to Sydney counts for nothing?
1:17:51 - "Utter lack . . ./you can't get a single non-stop flight" I've already found several. "Losing most of the time" - but not all of the time? What are the flight times when you're *not* losing?
1:18:30 - He says the optimum cruising speed of a 777 is 640 mph. Every bit of information I've seen so far indicates an optimum cruising speed(the most fuel-efficient) 560 with a maximum speed of 590, so he's overstating the 777's maximum speed by 8% and it's typical cruising speed by 14%. Is this related to that almanac from earlier?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777
http://www.askcaptainlim.com/flying-the-plane-flying-90/645-what-are-the-cruising-speeds-of-the-various-airliners.html
>>17292475
Continuing
1:18:45 - "7,400 miles" to *where*? "Try to find this route" - *to where*? Well, after some trial and error, I found a direct flight from Sydney to Johannesburg that was listed at a flight time of 12 hours. Care to guess what flight time I calculated using the listed typical cruising speed of 560 mph? 12.27 hours. I guess Quantas has figured out how to fold the flat earth a little.
1:19:00 - GPD mumbo jumbo. Yeah, except as covered earlier, pilots don't navigate exclusively by GPS and never have. Before it existed, they made use of land-based radar beacons and on-board inertial navigation systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system
And here's one to close out on, Flat-Earthers. Now, I freely admit that I'm no expert in aeronautics, but from what I've read up on just now, it seems to me like the only way an INS can even function is if its computer has a fairly detailed map to reference. For lack of a better example, imagine if you were blind and memorized the layout of your house, and knew that once you came down the stairs, turning right and taking 5 strides would take you to your front door.To the best of my understanding, that's what an INS is doing.
So if I'm right, there's your smoking gun! You guys should buy an INS and see what sort of map it relies on to work. Then you could show us once and for all.
>>17291942
Same cause? Yes. Same thing? Not quite. They spin in opposite directions.
Now explain why.
>>17292133
Yeah, sorta like that cute girl in front of you on the carousel that time at the fair that you couldn't work up the nerve to talk to, right Timmy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris
>>17292614
My bad. I thought it was the equator that determined what they're called. I stand corrected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone
But still, why do they spin in different directions depending on which side of that imaginary, completely meaningless line us clueless spherists draw around the globe?
>>17292614
>They spin in opposite directions.
No they don't.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/08/243980516/which-is-it-hurricane-typhoon-or-tropical-cyclone
>Hurricanes, typhoons and cyclones are all rotating storms spawned in the tropics. As a group, they can be referred to as tropical cyclones. Because of the Coriolis effect, these storms rotate counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere.
A Hurricane will spin clockwise if it is in the Southern Hemisphere of the Atlantic Ocean, and a Hurricane will spin CCW in the Northern Hemisphere of the Atlantic Ocean.
A typhoon does the same thing, but in the Pacific Ocean.
They are literally the same thing, just in a different spot.
>>17292162
>>17292475
>>17292521
Autistic as fuck but I guess someone's gotta do it
>>17290198
question for flat jews.
have you ever flown?
>>17292838
The fuck are you on about? The difference between a hurricane and a typhoon is NOT that they spin in opposite directions. Both hurricanes and typhoons spin in clockwise and counter-clockwise directions, depending on where they are in regards to the equator.
The only difference between calling one a hurricane and one a typhoon is whether it starts in the Atlantic or Pacific.
If the Earth is flat, and the moon, sun, &c. are tiny discs thousandths of the size of their size in the round Earth model, what causes tides?
>>17290234
>"midnight sun" is a purely arctic phenomena
I can't do this shit.
The Cosmic Turtle confirms the Earth is flat
>>17290446
thats not true im from chile and we have people living there. you can take a plane to Puerto williams and pay a tur to the antartica. even can buy a boat and travel to this continent
>>17292162
Okay. I hope you really care because I'm going to take the time to respond to each of your concerns so for your own benefit don't ignore or dismiss or scoff.
:49 Granted.
1:02 Yes, but the difference does not account for the recorded estimations which is more than 4 times the amount of miles.
1:30 There is more proof of the difference between the north pole and antarctica which are in line with the map. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRnFmgOrf8&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG&index=6 It's abou 3 minutes long.
2:09 Those are all excuses man. Truly you're just defending them instead of mulling over the evidence and seeing if it truly leads to anything disproving or true. Sure though, I'll grant that in this conversation and not pursue it.
why doesn't anyone send a drone to antartica
>>17292475
2:12 Not trying to be a shit when I say these two things. 1. Take the flight and run your camera out the window the entire flight to prove it even exists and is not just a red herring/ruse against flat earth.
and 2. It might be that the flight times and project distance do not add up. See this video for more on how certain non-stop flights take longer than their planes should take, flying at minimum cruising speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao&feature=youtu.be&t=1h31m58s The entire segment is 10 minutes 3 seconds. And begins at 1 Hour 31 minutes 58 seconds.
2:50 >That site also quite rightly points out how much longer some flights should be on a flat earth, but somehow they're not, almost as if we're living on a sphere of some sort.
Those are just words.
>Also, on a side note, this talk of planes turning off their GPS over water . . . all I can tell you is that at present, the southern hemisphere just hasn't floated enough satellites to guarantee line of sight communication yet, so . . . step it up, southern hemisphere! Here's where I'm getting my info:
That is an establishment excuse. They ROUTINELY TURN OFF their gps over the ocean but NEVER disappear over the continents of Africa, South ameria, Australia, New zealand or anywhere else. I don't even have to address whatever information you have because its been disproven and you're being so damn flippant about your proof that I feel it would be a waste of my time.
I'm not talking to you anymore. I'm not going to drag you into enlightenment.That's never worth it. Why would I use my energy to DRAG you forward when I could take that energy and parcel it out and show MANY people who have a will to walk where the safe and straight path is? Stay ignorant or adjust your attitude. I hope you regret being so arrogant.
>>17292971
I don't know. We're told, by conventionalist, the moon and sun, but they cannot prove it either without seeking to prove it and making the math fit by changing their model. Which is circular investigation "The moon causes the tides thus this must make sense. This does make sense so the moon must be a sphere but.... this doesn't make sense so the moon must be a sphere but..." No scientist is allowed to let go of that fundamental assumption without losing any funding to investigate the issue at all. Because science is a dogma. BTW, flat earthers know the moon and sun are spheres. Also BTW, for an example of this dogma, if you have about 2 hours, here is proof the HIV DOES NOT cause AIDS which illustrates just how flawed the scientific community and the idea of peer reviewed = right, not peer reviewed = poppycock is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqjI-YiNliQ
>>17293349
It's illegal without government supervision https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqjI-YiNliQ
>>17293377
Go away Jessie
>>17293403
Who?
>>17293205
>read about cosmic turtle in history class
>it's described as a tan disk with a blue disk and trunks coming out of the middle
>look at some pictures of the milkyway galaxy in science class
>looks like a tan disk with blue disk with trunks coming out of the middle
>mfw I thought that's exactly what they were teaching us in school
>>17293434
>yfw you believe the "ancient ignorance" freemason meme
>>17293450
whats that lol let me google it real quick and come back to you
>>17290366
Everything is muslim/jewish propaganda.
>>17291729
>implying posting about flat earth theory is not shitposting
>>17293486
>>17293486
It's the freemason/jesuit lie that all ancient accounts that the earth is flat, that it is still and the sun moves, or that the entire cosmos revolves around earth is just "Ancient ignorance" and "We" know better.
>>17290198
What about the north pole nigger
>>17293492
Everything is a rich man's trick.
>>17293526
just like ur mum m8
>>17293337
1:02 - As before, what is his source? I can't find it, and I want to know if he's referring to their time mapping the coast or their entire trip - two very different things.
1:30 - Not giving the vids one more view. Not. One. I said I'd watch one, I tore it to shreds, and forgive me for saying so, but all you're offering is deflections and evasions.
>>17293363
2:12 - With all due respect, it's you who should take that trip. Find the two most far-flung spots on your model that offer a non-stop flight(check multiple days; some aren't offered daily), calculate the distance you'd cover, and compare that to what you experience. Remember - the burden of proof is on you.
2:50 - And that's just a hand-wave.
> GPS
I think I see. When you say the planes are disappearing, You're referring to them disappearing from Radar? That would be correct. At present, the tech's not completely up and running to transmit "real-time" GPS info to satellites, so we're still at the mercy of ground-based radar stations, which aren't capable of tracking past line of sight(it's that whole horizon thing again - Radar goes in a straight line; the earth doesn't.) From what I gather, they're bringing it online, but it's slow and it's costly. On a related note, this also plays into a lot of the air routes discussed in your vids - since Radar stations aren't in continuous contact with all the birds in the sky, it's safer for them to travel pre-established routes and have the pilots use their on-board Radar to look out for "strays,"
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/533871/could-passenger-planes-be-tracked-more-closely/
http://www.popsci.com/un-agreement-lets-satellites-track-jets-over-ocean
It saddens me that our discussion appears to be at a close and that you find me so unworthy of your efforts.
"What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?" - Luke 15;4
>>17293572
I'm not talking to you.
>>17293576
This is an anonymous web-forum.
You are talking to everyone who visits this page.
>>17293585
And on that same vein, I'm only using this trip for purpose of clarity. I'll be retiring it for now and reclaiming my anonymity.
/thread
>>17293515
It's in the center.
>>17293666
666 confirms, earth is parabolic, resonant wave, with north pole at fixed central point
>>17293681
Speaking of satanic trips: pic related 66.6 degrees satan confirmed
>>17293687
Somehow, I expected Satan to be more . . . I dunno . . . obtuse?
>>17293695
God works in mysterious ways.
Holy shit, these tripfags are cancer
Are we all going to ignore that there are fucking pictures of the Earth or
>>17293896
there's also pictures of bigfoot
>>17293687
speaking of satanic trips do you know the basis for all life on earth?
>>17293901
352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352 352
Instead, have here an interesting book on Antarctica:
http://bookzz.org/md5/5d80414c5b97895e64252b58a04f581f
>>17293765
The earth is flat.
>>17293904
God. Satan is lying saying he's the 666
How do you explain this?
Checkmate, atheists.
>>17293919
how do you explain this
check mate theists
>>17293919
oh shit i never noticed that, that's exactly how it would look to flat earth model too
>>17290414
the world is full of retards
>>17290198
I think would be a good hiding place for niggers.
>>17293956
Uh, no, Antarctica is white as the snow.
>>17293965
Yap...
Sure
>>17290696
Okay, I'll give you another one then. If we can see a galaxy 2.6mm light years away with our naked eye and much further with the aid of a telescope, why can't we see a fucking ship beyond 4 miles away on the open ocean? If we can see a galaxy millions of light years away even with our naked eye, we should be able to see a ship's course all the way to the edge of your gay flat earth, right? (Never mind the thing falling off the fucking earth when it gets there.) Do you FEs need to have instructions on how to breathe tattooed on your wrists?
It's beyond time to reopen the asylum system.
This country needs to clean house.
flat earth...
obscurantism at its best
sad
>This is what ball earth theorists actually believe
>>17294047
>this is how FEs spend lunch break
>Ur science is wrong!
>No ur science is wrong!
This whole thread.
>>17294237
Flat earth retardation isn't science. It's mental illness.
Flat earthers can't even explain the creation of the planet with out a "god did it"
>>17294047
Made me lol. BE are retards.
>>17294047
>>17294343
>>17294237
I know you thought that would come out sounding clever, but yeah, no.
so they say in this video the earth should look 4x bigger from the moon, true or not?
>>17294047
>>17294343
what a pair of dumbasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuOmsYtSGE&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG&index=17
Black suns? The fuck is he talking about?
>>17290198
In Antarctica here. Can confirm that's not how flat Earth works.
>>17294367
the earth and moon are still far away from each other
>>17294646
They're the same distance away from eachother, though. So wouldn't the larger object seem larger if viewed from the same distance?
>>17294367
What focal length camera lens did they use?
>>17294368
Enjoy your 500 year old fake theory. shill
>>17294652
What's a "distance"?
>>17293979
Not that far away. pictures. You can, you're just dumb and lazy. Atmospheric blurring, obviously.
>>17294680
oh shut up you fucking clown. so it's fake? okay, if the earth is flat, go to New York Harbor with a telescope and a camera and take a picture of Africa for me. i'll give you a million dollars if you can; that ought to pay for your expenses. i'll wait. yeah, didn't think so. okay, then how about this: find me a picture of the Antarctic taken from Cape Town, South Africa or one of Madagascar taken from Australia. if the earth was flat, there ought to be plenty such photos around, right? I know if I had a telescope and camera attachment, I'd be taking pictures of the sun coming up over Liberia when it's midnight in Tennessee. you ever see such photos? i'll give you $500,000 if you can find a photo of the west African coast taken from the east coast of the United States. i'll wait.
pic related was taken with an 8m telescope. the moon is 239,000 miles away. Liberia is 4500 miles from New York. with a telescope even a fraction the power of the one that took this pic, you ought to be able to take an exquisite picture of the Liberian coastline from the coast of the United States. $1,000,000 is riding on it, fag. hop to it. moron.
>>17294367
True.
>>17294728
>>17294652
yup. And let's talk about how their photographic evidence doesn't real. It's like when a child forges their parent's signature as "mom/dad" because their don't know their real name. Then they learn it and their foolishness is revealed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchtwf5Fvhc&feature=youtu.be&t=7m31s
>>17294672
You nailed it. I don't know what focal length they were using, but the cameras were custom-made for the trip.
I bet NASA's still kicking themselves for not giving the astronauts specific instructions on how best to photograph the earth to give us the same view they must have had,
Check out these shots. http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/earth-from-space/
Some great pictures here too. http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/earth-from-space/
>>17294741
Fuck you and fuck your stupid videos, you stupid cunt..
>>17294680
> 500 year old fake theory. Shill
Think about how little sense this makes. Why the fuck would we, as a civilization, decide that the most important priority of mankind was to convince everyone of a fake theory. Why?
> inb4 gubmint like us be stoopid
>>17294724
What are you actually babbling about, you utter dimwit? I don't speak fucktard, so all I'm getting here is
>durr durr durr durr durr. hurr durr durr durr durr. atmospheric hurr durring obviously.
>>17290234
Where is this song from? It reminds me of Dire Dire Docks from Super Mario 64.
>>17294756
you're dealing with the absolute pinnacle of playground helmet retardation here. sense is thin on the ground.
Every singular large body astronomers have ever observed is pulled into a perfect sphere by gravity. Am I to believe the Earth is the only object in the Universe that is a perfectly shaped disk?
Also, math and physics don't fucking lie. Gravity wouldn't even work right on a flat Earth. The "gravity is caused by Earth's constant upward acceleration" handwave can be disproved by any amateur astronomer with a telescope.
There's also mounds and piles of images of a round Earth taken from space by astronauts, satellites, and even ordinary people riding planes at extreme altitudes. Yet, there doesn't exist even a single shred of photographic evidence from space of the Earth being flat.
Every natural phenomena caused by the spherical Earth's rotation cannot exist together on a flat earth. Not only science is involved, these are things that can be determined with simple logic and experimentation.
I am absolutely CONVINCED flat-earthers are nothing but pro-memers out to make everyone hot in the jimmies. NO ONE is stupid enough to honestly believe this nonsense. It's the simplest of science and logic. Every single person can recreate famous experiments to see for themselves. Observing shadows of a pole at different latitudes, riding elevators and watching two sunsets, ships on the horizon, observing shadows on the moon, all shit you can do yourself. Fuck, you can buy a fucking weather balloon, strap a camera to it, and take a high-altitude image of the Earth's curvature yourself. There is centuries worth of concrete scientific evidence gathered through legitimate experimentation by the world's greatest minds backing up a round Earth. The burden of proof is on you. Stop making up fake reasons why the Earth does the things does, and bring back YOUR OWN concrete proof.
Space tourism will be an affordable thing soon. When I livestream my ascent past the Karman line and personally show you images of our beautiful marble of a planet, you flat-earthers can all suck my dick.
>>17294724
>atmospheric blurring
so we can take photos of Jupiter from the Earth as it rises over the horizon, but not a ship as it floats off the edge of your flat earth into the abyss. riiiight. okay.
atmospheric blurring, folks. different for planets.
>>17294811
You're not gonna believe the hand-wave they have for the camera balloon. It goes something like this:
"blah blah herpdederp fish-eye lenses."
So is Antarctica just a boring, frozen tundra?
hopefully the hollow earthers' ground will open up and swallow the flat earthers
>>17290662
Oh look, it's NASA's fake as fuck space station floating in the Neutral Buoyancy Lab.
Why would they need to be using Greenscreen there?
>>17294734
Looks more like one of NASA's fake props than the actual Moon.
>>17294996
your mom looks like a fake prop
>>17294811
/thread
>>17290198
How are there people still balls retarded enough to think the earth is flat? It was literally something we figured out in the 6th or 7th century. What the fuck is wrong with you fuckwits?
>>17295004
>>17294979
You have no evidence of that.
>>17294837
Haven't they wondered what a curved surface looks like through a fish eye lens?
>>17294728
>, if the earth is flat, go to New York Harbor with a telescope and a camera and take a picture of Africa for me
Captain obvious here for you my retarded amigo
1/ atmosphere is no vacuum it is filled with particles like water droplets which prevent clear sight at a distance
2/ perspective that make everything look smaller and smaller and smaller and .... well even you get the idea. Even using a telescope you just can't magnify to infinity and the loss of light/details caused by *1* is still in effect.
hope this helps
>>17294811
You know I think you might be onto something with the whole jimmy rustlin' memery thing. I'm noticing a pattern with these threads:
Shitposter starts shit tier "flat eerth amirite??" thread
Arguements fly back and forth but remain civil (by 4chan standards)
Smart person loses their shit and spergs out on the conspiratards in a way that redifines getting 'rekt'
Tin foils retreat, their mission accomplished
Wait for smart person to leave
Start up flat Earth shitposting again until next person loses it
Solution? Ban all flat Earth threads because they are blatant /b/tard level shitposts
>>17295067
oh, so we can take a photograph of mars from the surface of the earth, but not a coastline that is 0.00001 of that distance away. got ya. go eat some more crayons, you fucking retard.
>>17295079
> implying they get crayon privelages
>>17295079
holy mushroom, you are beyond retarded
we have only like 100 miles of air above our heads, with only the very first being very dense and causing the most loss.
you are talking of looking from one part of the disc to the other side, going through thousand miles of the thickest layer of the atmosphere.
not only that but you are assuming that Mars is millions miles away which is another lie.
hope this help, dumb shill
>>17294996
they had a larger one for their bullshit close up from orbit
>>17294837
>handwave
>disproves itself in the same video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExcBMb0Dh3Y
>>17294814
You don't even see why that reasoning is circular.
>>17294929
Yup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzRnFmgOrf8&list=PL_2NzKg0JlbpTZ-cD6SWWCYmXM1CnyaBG&index=6
>>17295074
Oh I forgot the final step:
Blatantly ignore person who went full hulk mode on them
>>17294814
Lucky for you someone else answered the question your retarded mind asked so I do not have to. Cause I wasn't going to.
>>17295126
Nobody even say anything until they respond to these:
>>17295008
>>17294811
>>17294756
/thread
>>17291886
The Earth is not a perfect sphere. It's spherical, but it's not a perfect sphere.
>>17291875
That's a relief map with exaggerated elevation differences to highlight geographic patterns. The purple spot south of India is the depression left behind as the Indian plate moves northward, pushing into the central Asian plate (this is what created the Himalayas).
>>17291896
>We snipers don't use the earths rotation to adjust our aim, we use the wind.
every sniper and gunman knows this.
Except you, apparently. Including the Coriolis effect in shot calculations is a pretty common thing.
You flat-earthers are fucking retarded as fuck btw; the sun would never set, for anyone, on a flat Earth. Unless you think the Earth is like a disc or coin, floating in space, which is so far beyond pants-on-retarded I can't even be bothered to waste anymore time trying to convince your mold-like intelligence.
All you need to know.
http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/mountainsofmaddness.htm
>>17295382
>The Earth is not a perfect sphere. It's spherical, but it's not a perfect sphere.
Classic ball-earther deflection!
Violating the core tennants of your ideology as soon as you confront the slightest resistance. It's just lazy pandering to accepted authority.
>>17295406
The earth has to be disc or coin shaped, how else would it stay on the turtle?
>>17295476
>>17295434
>>17295406
>>17295382
Jesus it's like trying to get /b/ to count to 5 -.-
>>17295376
>>17295457
The earth is more football shape. You wouldn't call a rectangle a square.
>>17295593
Is it because it's always spinning & bulges at the equator?
>>17295382
>>17295457
The proper term is "Oblate Spheroid". The Earth is flatter at the poles, and wider at the Equator. This is due to the earth's rotation, and can be learned in any basic science class.
>>17295955
> science books
O M G
I bet sleep on a coil-array and wear pants too!
>>17295593
Really? Because the only photo of earth NASA claims is real looks pretty damn spherical.
>>17296108
Obvi a fake pic.
You can't even see the Earth from space because of all the black knight satellites.
I swear I'm not on drugs, you can check pic-related.
