Could dinosaurs still roam the earth?
If you don't believe in the lockness monster, then you don't believe that they exist
Crocodiles are the closest we've got. Smaller, more intelligent beasts fucked up all the big game millions of years ago.
They still roam the Earth. They're called birds.
Even if the meteor had missed, it's likely that there wouldn't be actual dinosaurs but their so-evolved-they're-other-species descendants.
At least, that's what I read when I was a teenager and liked so much dinosaurs. Maybe the wave is different now.
>>17154269
Hmm I have an objection..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_paradox_(paleontology)
The consensus view is that birds evolved from dinosaurs, but the most bird-like dinosaurs, including almost all of the feathered dinosaurs and those believed to be most closely related to birds are known mostly from the Cretaceous, by which time birds had already evolved and diversified. If bird-like dinosaurs are the ancestors of birds they should, then, be older than birds, but Archaeopteryx is 155 million years old, while the very bird-like Deinonychus is 35 million years younger. This idea is sometimes summarized as "you can't be your own grandmother". As Dodson pointed out:
I hasten to add that none of the known small theropods, including Deinonychus, Dromaeosaurus, Velociraptor, Unenlagia, nor Sinosauropteryx, Protarchaeopteryx, nor Caudipteryx is itself relevant to the origin of birds; these are all Cretaceous fossils ... and as such can at best represent only structural stages through which an avian ancestor may be hypothezised to have passed.[3]
>>17154160
Reptiles are not dinosaur buddy back to 9th grade bio with you!
>>17154349
I said closest we've got. Then again, I could be wrong. They look pretty dinosaurish.
>>17154357
>Although birds are thought to be the only living dinosaur descendants, some other animals living today are related to the dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are in the reptile group, which includes turtles, crocodiles, birds, lizards, and snakes.
We find new animals living deep in the ocean every day,maybe there are still some swimming around. You ever heard about lake vostok? Isolated from the world for over 20 million years,
Cassowaries are living dinosaurs.
I always thought that t-rex looked more like a rooster. It's possible that t-rex had fur and feathers, maybe even a wattle and comb.
>>17154278
that's like saying apes and humans cant exist at the same time because they had a common ancestor.
Mokele Mbembe.
the idea that dinosaurs are still able to live in deep Africa is cool and makes me want to believe.
also you should check out a movie called the Dinosaur Project
>>17154379
Cassowaries are living cassowaries you fuck
>>17154144
Probably in the deep ocean. All the shit down there is fucked up.
>>17154362
birds aren't reptiles you cancer paitent
>>17154651
No, it's like saying birds and dinosaurs co-existed even though the general belief is that birds evolved from dinosaurs. Hence the term "paradox".
It's unexplained.
>>17154148
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Why OP, in fact, three (or more) of them are running for President next year.
>>17154144
one or two, sure. any more and we'd probably notice it in the ecosystem.
>>17155097
reptilian or old people joke?
>>17155097
Together, the 3 of them form a monster of unspeakable power...
>>17155097
kek
It's unlikely but plausible.
The scientific community long thought that the coelacanth was extinct, but were proven wrong.
Will it happen a second time? No. Maybe something with mammoths, though
>>17154278
A) Archaeopteryx can be treated as a common ancestor to __both__ Maniraptora and Aves (or just Maniraptora, if you file Aves under the former). This isn't "you can't be your own grandmother," this is "your grandmother looked a lot like you and your mother" which isn't absurd at all.
B) Late cretaceous Dromaeosaurids and "small" dinosaurs aren't the only possible ancestors. Maniraptora existed in the Jurassic too. For example, Epidexipteryx predates Archaeopteryx by over 10 million years even in lower estimates.
C) You're citing Peter Dodson. I'm not sure if there's any support in the Wikipedia link but the guy has never felt too strongly about this hypothesis. In multiple journals and books he's retracted this statement and agreed with the other conclusion.
D) And regardless, whether or not they're descendants doesn't necessarily matter if we're considering it taxonomically, as it's easy to classify birds as dinosaurs even that way.
>>17154829
But birds are phylogenetically reptiles. They're filed under Archosaurs.
>>17154826
You're an idiot.no dinosaurs ever existed in the ocean. You also underestimate the vast wilderness that civilized people ever see, even in north America
>>17155097
DINO FITE DINO FITE DINO FITE
Woodlice
>>17154278
Hmm, I have an objection -- that's a fringe article that was previously deleted because it was bullshit.
>>17154793
Birds are dinosaurs
Cassowaries are birds
Cassowaries are dinosaurs
There's dinosaurs in vietnam.
>>17154835
No it isn't; get an education.
>>17154144
Maybe small dinosaurs man, but you might not think of them as dinosaurs but like if bugs aren't as big as they used to be I don't think any big dinosaurs would also be alive
>>17154160
I believe birds are closer related to dinosaurs than crocodiles are. Crocodiles were around when dinosaurs raomed the earth though. So you're half right.
>>17154269
Natures temper, is that you?
>>17154276
Something tells me such large creatures cant really exist that long for many reasons. If it wasnt a massive natural disaster theyd probably get hunted to extinction like elephants and whales do now.
>>17154160
tuatara of new zealand is closer.
>>17159405
By who?
>>17159390
Crocodiles came a few million years before dinosaurs were even in the gene pool senpai
>What is Tuatara?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatara
>What is Mokele-mbembe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokele-mbembe
The Tuatara is the last of its order of dinosaurs which flourished 200Mya
They live on New Zealand.
Mokele mbembe is a sauropod-like dinosaur cryptid in the Congo.
>>17162130
>Tuatara
>Dinosaur
>Lepisosauria
>Not even Archosauria
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Tuatara are the oldest LIZARDS.
>>17155248
kek
>>17157066
>no dinosaurs ever existed in the ocean
confirmed for window licking retarded. Don't forget to wear your helmet, pal.
not the big boys there's not a high enough concentration of oxygen in the atmosphere
oxygen levels too low for dinosaurs to exist today
if there were any animals similar to dinosaurs they'd be a lot smaller
>>17159161
>amoebas are living things
>people are living things
>people are amoebas
it doesn't work like that or phylogenetically everything is a fucking fungi
>>17162130
>Mokele mbembe is a sauropod-like dinosaur cryptid in the Congo.
Probably a misidentified giant tortoise.
>>17162141
>Tuatara are reptiles endemic to New Zealand and which, although resembling most lizards, are part of a distinct lineage
>literally the first sentence
>>17162627
giant tortoises don't live in africa
>>17154160
>Crocodiles are the closest we've got
>What is a Coelacanth
>>17162776
>Coelacanth
>dinosaur
>>17154144
Well, I assume they'd have had to evolve somehow. Oxygen levels have dropped a lot since those days.
if you do starting strength long enough you might see yourself become one
>>17162224
Really? Bane one then you fucking retard. And don't bullshit me with marine reptiles
>>17162506
Dinosaurs had less oxygen then we do now.
>>17162552
Really? You couldn't be more wrong
>>17162925
>Crocodile
>Dinosaur
dinosaurs had taco bells they went to every friday.
>>17162967
God damn you're the third person to say that retarded bullshit. Oxygen levels were lower then. We're not talking about the carboniferous era here
>>17163468
in there little Dino cars they qued up at the taco bell on fridays.
>>17163429
Bane?
>>17154269
KFD: Finger licking good!
>>17163529
Good dammit I knew that typo would result in this
>>17163586
Fuck I hate kindles
So errbody arguing ancestry of dinosaurs, and question was could they still roam the earth.
>>17163656
Welcome to paranormal /an/
>>17154835
All that means, is that they both had a common ancestor.
>>17163429
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiosauria
>>17163911
...you're a fool. An illiterate fool.
>>17154148
>lockness
Fuck off.
>>17154144
Not as they were before Earth's oxygen level changed.
>>17163911
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiosauria
Not the poster you were replying to, but he is right. Pliesosaurs are not dinosaurs. The wiki article does not state it explicitly, but a quick google search will show that this is indeed the case. FYI, pterosaurs are not dinosaurs either.
>ctrl+f
>"kongo"
Step the fuck up /x/. It should have been stated that if dinosaurs still exist they probably exist in the deep jungles of Kongo, the Heart of Darkness. The local tribes know of dinosaurs that inhabit these jungles.
>>17165724
why not remote areas of South America, or Siberia
>>17154349
They are though. A different form of reptile.
>>17162776
>Coelacanth
That's not even remotely close to a dinosaur. Though it did have ancestors that roamed that period, even it's ancestors weren't dinosaurs.
>>17165811
>South America
It's a lot better mapped than Africa, but possible.
>Siberia
Too cold.
>mfw dinosaurs became reptilians
>>17166146
Australia? There's nothing there but desert and faggots
>>17162630
>>17162141
Not him but Tuatara aren't even remotely related to dinosaurs. Most people see those lizards and sea creatures in documentaries about the Triassic period and think they're dinosaurs when the margin for dinosaurs is very specific.
>Additionally, many prehistoric animals, including mosasaurs, ichthyosaurs, pterosaurs, plesiosaurs, and Dimetrodon, are popularly conceived of as dinosaurs, but are not taxonomically classified as dinosaurs. Through the first half of the 20th century, before birds were recognized to be dinosaurs, most of the scientific community believed dinosaurs to have been sluggish and cold-blooded. Most research conducted since the 1970s, however, has indicated that all dinosaurs were active animals with elevated metabolisms and numerous adaptations for social interaction.
>>17154144
Plesiosaurs aren't dinosaurs you fucking retard.
>dinosaurs still roaming the earth
>>17166207
>tfw no reptilian gf
>>17166146
>South America
eh, the amazon is slowly being chopped down. maybe in the huge underwater reservoirs.
>>17154144
Can, but not long, because people would hunt onto them.
>>17154144
I like to think that Saint George of Lydda slayed a dinosaur instead of a dragon....
No chance. They were too big, and would have a lot of fucking trouble to get enough food.
If there were some walking around we would know.
>>17154144
>mfw you're implying cassowaries aren't dinosaurs
>>17162623
that's not even the same logic you stupid fuck
>>17154634
Not really. The combs and feathers would have left prints. We also have 3 skin impressions from the leg, tail and neck. One could argue the rest of t-rex was feathered, but that implies scales and bare skin are the same. Tldr; it's unlikely that trex had feathers.
>>17155248
It's called Zmey Gorynich
>>17162639
but dinosaurs do?
A giant tortoise is more probable if anything just because they actually are proven to exist today.
>>17162130
>What is Mokele-mbembe?
something that hasnt been provent to exist yet?
retard
>>17154709
Seconded, that movie was entertaining :]
>>17166155
Dinos need dense vegetation. If they're herbivores, they need it for obvious reasons, and if they're not, where do the little rodents/lizards/herbivore dinos they eat come from?
>>17169078
besides massively overestimating how big a giant tortoise is, dinos did at least live in africa more recently than giant terrapins
I honestly think the thing is an elephant with it's trunk raised based on size descripton but that's me
