Hello /x/, greetings from India.
I would like to ask your help in identifying a troubling concern of mine, and in return I will be sharing my experience in the Western Ghats (a dry mountain range in the west-southwest part of the country). There is something strange going on and I'm really afraid.
>Been living in an urban city my entire life
>Have visited rural areas occasionally, nothing too long
>18 years old now
>Shifted to a new city near the western ghats for studies
>Living alone, a bit outside the city
>Beautiful hills nearby so I plan to take a short hike
>Go alone one evening as I haven't made many friends
>The route is straight through a village
>Getting pretty dark
>Got no supplies
>Decide to turn back, I'd try again tomorrow morning
>Trip wasn't complete waste as I was able to gauge the distance
>~10-12 kms
In retrospect, I really should have asked someone to come along because I have a fainting syndrome. I'm definitely no /out/.
>Wake up next morning
>Pack bag with enough water and snacks
>Walk through village
>Road goes to another village
>Whole sequence of small villages along the path
>Hills in the horizon not getting any closer
>Misjudged distance
>Misjudged my fucking stamina
>Getting tired, taking frequent breaks
>Sun is scorching
>Sitting, observing surroundings
>No fauna except domestic cows, goats and chickens, very little flora
>Sweating like a dick but it's too late to turn back
>Keep going but everything is getting hazy
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>>17796481
Anyone lurking?
>Almost noon, sun is blazing
>Too tired to see where I'm going
>Too tired to realise that this was poorly planned
>Walking around lifelessly
>Locals staring at me with a mixture of concern, perplexity and distrust
>Young children start following me around as a joke but keeping safe distance
>Realise I probably looked like some foreign zombie
>Begin to laugh out loud
>Everyone rushes back into their houses
>Keep walking and realise I'm at the foot of the hill now
>Still got plenty of water so I drink some
>My energy returns to me
>Find a trail up the hill
>Steeper than I thought
>On all fours
>Pebbles and dust rumbling down my feet and hands
>Make it up the shortest hill
>Completely bare, only big dark rocks scattered around
>See a temple at the top of the tallest hill
>Nope, too far
>Sit down, completely wet from sweat
>Take off my shirt, shoes and socks
>Pretty hot but there's a gentle breeze
>Hear voices calling from below
>Two guys rushing toward me with sticks
>Locals, they just run up the slope without any effort
>Put on my shirt, kinda scared as I watch them come
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>>17796507
Go on anon what is it you want help with?
>>17796533
>>17796481
POO
>>17796533
>>17796538
Behave, you imbeciles
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Go on OP
>>17796507
>Guys catch up to me in no time
>Speak different dialect but we can understand each other a bit
>They were concerned about me
>Looking at me extremely suspiciously
>I explain that I study nearby and had come for a trek
>They recognise the place, calm down a bit
>Still have the sticks though
>I ask them why they rushed up
>Avoiding direct answer, saying stuff I don't clearly understand
>Something along the lines "People often come here and vanish"
>Ask them to explain
>"They run away from their homes and come here"
>I still don't understand what made them rush to me
>Ask once again
>"We find corpses in these hills"
>There are no trees so I see it's easy to find bodies
>I come from a rather sheltered home so it freaks me out
>One guy points at dried lake behind the hill >"dead bodies there"
>I want to go back but too tired
>Sit down for a while with them
>Become friendlier, offer snacks but they won't touch it
>The older one says I should go soon, before it gets dark
>Pick up a few cool rocks as souvenirs
>Get up to leave
>Younger one holds my arm
>Points at a big field that I crossed while coming
>"Don't go there"
>Both staring at me as I go down the hill, take a new route back
>Pretty long but I make it back
This is when it starts guys. There was definitely something off about those hills and the way those guys charged at me.
>Sleeping like a log since I was so tired
>Got blanket covering me, wearing a t shirt
>Feel something cold hold my shoulder
>It was on my skin
>Immediately sit up on bed
I just realised that this is pretty long
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>>17796564
go on faggot
>>17796538
IN
>>17796564
continue pls
>>17796564
I live alone in a room, it doesn't have much: a bed, a table, a chair, a mirror, a cupboard and an adjoining toilet (surprise).
>Sit up in alert
>There's nothing around but the skin still felt the memory of the touch
>Try to go back to sleep
>Succeed after a while as I was deathly tired
>Slept through dinner, wake up the next day
>Door is open slightly
>Go to close it, "maybe I hadn't shut it properly"
>Remember what I had felt last evening so I feel a little easy
>Spend entire day with the sensation on my shoulder
>Had tried to look at it multiple times but there was nothing
I'd like to point out that I had never been to /x/ at this point.
Forward to next week:
>Brushing my teeth
>Glimpse something just fly dart across the mirror
>Turn back, nothing there
>Look around in room
>Finish brushing quickly
>Turn off lights and get into bed
>Wake up abruptly in the middle of the night
>Sweating, shaking
>The room is completely black but I can make out a darker silhouette on the wall
>Not really humanoid but I couldn't tell
>Flash light from my mobile around the room
>Nothing
>This is pretty fucked up
>Turned the light off, the figure is gone
>Go back to sleep somehow
>Wake up again
>Can't move
>Can't speak
>I'm a fucking vegetable on my bed can't do anything
>Terrified
>Can "sense" something behind me
>Just feeling worse and worse
>Feels like it is growing as I get more and more scared
>Almost pissing myself
>Remains like this for an hour
>Don't remember going back to sleep
>Wake up at sunrise
>Get out of the room asap
>Waited for breakfast for a long time and then went to class
>Told others in class about this
>They dismiss it as a joke
>I know what I felt but begin to question myself
Been having such experiences ever since. Found out about sleep paralysis.
After a couple of days I have the worst night of my life (including nights of being very ill).
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>>17796628
This was the first time you got sleep paralysis?
>>17796628
>Wake up in the middle of the night
>Can move around but can't dare to get up from the bed
>Feel something in room
>Turn to look at it
>Immediately there is an intense buzzing in my head
>It's like a fucking powerdrill or something but without the pain
>Holding my head really tight
>Dig my face into my pillow
>Never felt anything like this
>All I can think is that "I'm dying tonight"
>Wriggling around violently, it's just getting worse and worse
>There's something trying to communicate with me
>I can't hear or see anything, it was like information was directly being transferred into my mind
>"I'm being possessed"
>At this point I just want whatever it is to take me
>I'm almost begging it to be done with it
>See this triangular image in my head, it was like a face or something
>The image quickly disappeared from my memory, it was like how we forget dreams
>I can't remember it's details but it was like a burning triangle, since those were the words I used to describe the image to myself
>Again, didn't remember falling asleep
>Wake up all shaken, spend entire day away from others
>I don't want to be around others, I just suddenly found it very difficult not to avoid others (it's the best I can explain the feeling)
>Feeling extremely fatigued and joyless all the time
>Begin to wonder if this the doing of whatever the thing is (I was calling it a demon)
>Trying to separate me from the rest of the world so it's easier to "get" me?
>Got no idea what is happening but I'm in like a daze or something
>Just thinking about what it could be
Few nights later:
>I feel the drilling sensation in my head again
>Stops and changes into a different feeling
>Suddenly a lot information just gets "transferred" to me
I don' know what this is guys, one moment I had nothing and the next I just suddenly knew a lot of things. It's tough to put it down in words but I will try.
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>>17796531
I just want to know what this is and whether it's related to the hill in some way.
>>17796650
Yes, it was terrifying.
Fellow indian anon here, keep going op
What you need, pajeet, is a DESIGNATED ritual space containing paper charms & certain occult machinery (arranged in a certain manner) that acts as a conducter to these negative forces and disposes of them from your surroundings.
>>17796666
quads checked
Not sure what it is but you might be fucked, anon. Find an exorcist or something.
>>17796666
Satanic quads!!!!!!
>>17796628
So the things I was "told" or whatever were something like:
>There are beings on a different plane of existence.
>Our mind is part of that plane, but our body is part of the physical plane.
>Those beings don't have a "vessel" in the physical plane, but somehow I had given one of them a vessel.
I've never been fond of horror films and games so I have been very sensitive to these things. I guess one way to put it is that once something penetrates a credibility threshold in me, I get really afraid.
>Still got no clue what to do about it
>Don't know who to tell this to, I am finding interacting with people more and more difficult
>Fortunately, year ends and I'm back at home (far away from this place)
>Feel far more comfortable here
>Telling this story to younger brother in a joking manner, I expected him to dismiss it like the others
>He gets extremely serious, very unlike him
>Says I've been saying things in my sleep and just acting weird in general
So far I'm feeling fine here at home, but I'm dreading going back to study in September. What is this thing and what have I done to get it on me? Is it the rocks that I picked up on the hills (I didn't get them back home with me)?
What do I do?
>>17796688
>I had given one of them a vessel
Gather all the shit you took with you on that particular trip and burn it just to be safe
>>17796533
>>17796538
>>17796698
>>17796686
>>17796677
Okay guys, it's OP here and I'm going to tell you all a secret. In these villages I visited, it was some fucked up ritual or something, but I saw two of these on the road. They were cow droppings on the road with dried chilies stuck to them perpendicularly. I am not joking. I can procure a photograph of it in a couple of days, if you guys want to see. This was really fucked up.
>>17796704
please do and then post it on pol
>>17796708
Okay, I'll do that, but I'm genuinely scared about my problem here.
>>17796715
You can try burning purifying herbs and such? (sage things of the like)
Don't really have anything beyond that dude. May need to go get experienced help.
Have you tried anything yet op? what religion are you?
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>>17796721
I don't know what to do. I looked online and just frantically drew a lot of symbols on paper and stuck them all around my room.
I haven't been raised in a religious family, my parents are from different religions. I am not an atheist, though.
I just don't know what to do. Things like this aren't familiar to me. I didn't believe anything like this would exist; I never even thought about it.
Op have u done any research about the place you went to ? The locals seemed to know stuff maybe u can look it up online or contact someone
maybe you caught something (im talking real diseases/parasites/etc), go to a doctor and ask about it, if that fails, go back to the village, find those 2 guys and ask if they have a local priest or something
>>17796704
We have a similar phenomena in england, except its the wooden sticks from ice lollies shoved into dogshit.
>>17796739
I've been to the hospital, for a different reason, all I had was a gastric problem then.
>>17796736
The place is just outside a relatively big city. There are a lot of farms around. The hills are barren though.
I won't get to go there anytime soon so I can't further inquire with the locals.
>>17796752
You get the idea
keep us updated OP this threads great, could you draw some stuff youve seen? it doesnt matter if your artistic skills are bad
>>17796762
I would really like to show you the rocks that I got from there and a drawing of the triangular figure I had seen at night, but unfortunately I left them there.
I'll try to make something.
>>17796729
Pray to archangel michael, you shall surely get relief. pic related (the prayer) do it over and over again, fuck that demon up with the help of archangel Michael
>>17796772
Thank you. I am trying anything that could help me. It sometimes feels like my consciousness is just fading out of existence.
>>17796628
> surprise
You won my heart with that one, Indianon.
>>17796661
>I don't want to be around others, I just suddenly found it very difficult not to avoid others (it's the best I can explain the feeling)
>Feeling extremely fatigued and joyless all the time
Whatever this is, it seems to be feeding off of you. What I mean by this is that it's stealing your energy from you and using it to become stronger. Fatigue, sadness, and isolation are some of the effects of this
Wait anon.
What did the sticks the men held look like?
>>17796798
It's trying to replace your mind with its. I know about that, it happened to me when I had 10
>>17796806
Yes, I think so too. And at night, the more negative my emotions are, the worse it gets.
If it lives in the plane where our mind lives, then maybe it can "access" these feelings and thoughts of mine?
>>17796688
I can show pictures I clicked of the hill from my camera. However, they don't reveal much, I've seen them all for a long time.
>>17796809
Yes it was like that. Many times I just felt like surrendering myself to it so that the torment would end.
>>17796771
I'd go bring the rocks back when you return. I don't know India very well. If you asked the villagers about it do you think they might respond violently?
>>17796808
They were regular chest height sticks, similar to what cowherds have.
>>17796819
I know it can be hard man, but do not do that. It will be worse for you in the long run. You have to stand up to this somehow, I'll do some research for you and report to you what I found
>>17796811
I'm not sure, but I think so
>>17796798
Do not let it win, fight it and kick its ass
>>17796826
The rocks I had taken from the hills are kept in my room over there. They're unlike any rocks I have come across, just pretty looking.
I think the villagers would be amicable but I'm also a stranger in those regions.
>>17796819
I struggled with something when I was a kid, I often heard someone breathing next to me when I was im the bathroom. Until one day I fell asleep on the hallway because I couldn't sleep in my room, this thing harassed me even while I was trying to sleep. My mum didn't care and scoffed it as just silly nonsense.
I woke up feeling totally different, like if I somehow gained wisdom about stuff. My grades got higher, I knew about stuff even without knowing it firsthand, even my way to talk or communicate changed. A lot of weird things happened to me but my family said I hit puberty. I have faint memories of those events, but the weirdest thing of all is that I don't remember anything previous to that event
>>17796564
>>Pick up a few cool rocks as souvenirs
You fucked up hard familia, You've disturbed some sacred place or worse. Return those stones ASAP
What's the name of the place you went to?
op more about these beings and their origins/intentions
>>17796819
Try smudging your house with sage, seeing a priest/shaman, RETURN THE ROCKS, and while you're at it don't forget to ask for forgiveness and apologize
Whatever you do OP, do NOT attempt to shoot it with a Indian INSAS.
Because the INSAS will probably fail.
>>17796889
This.
>>17796954
>Similar complaints were also received from the Nepalese Army.[1] In August 2005, after 43 soldiers were killed in a clash with Maoists, a Nepalese Army spokesman called the rifle substandard and their counter-insurgency operation would have been more efficient with better weapons. The Indian embassy released a statement that rejected the claim and attributed it to improper use, it also offered training for the rifle's correct use.[11]
kek, indians cant even own up to their plastic toy
op post a picture off the rocks !
>>17796921
The hill didn't have a name, but I'm assuming it was a part of the Western Ghats
>>17796925
I really don't know much for sure, but after doing some research, the idea of the "Qlippoth" sounds like a match
>>17796814
This is what the hills looked like, nothing much to see
>>17797552
>>17797557
I think one important detail I left out is that I sometimes got these bouts of pure anger when I was in my room. I just was consumed by rage and felt like choking or strangling someone. It was not caused by anything nor was it toward anyone in particular. Naturally, I haven't told anyone about this.
>>17797552
>>17797557
These are unusually barren. Any idea why?
>>17797576
The climate is like this. The hills are barren but the land around is full of farms of sugarcane, beetroot and grapes.
Shamelessly self bumping because I'm getting paranoid about this.
There are no priests or any such around here that I can approach. I'm afraid telling this to any one would end up with me going to a mental specialist (I have had behavioural problems before). I can't burn any sage or other herbs without others noticing and, again, thinking I'm crazy.
Few more things I'd like to add:
>After my worst "experience", I shaved my head because I had a strong urge to renew myself. Others found it bizarre since I have never done this before.
>Brother tells me I've been repeating things about "other people". One phrase he could make out was "have all the others left?".
>I began to have difficulties in comprehending what people are saying. I can barely ever understand what people are saying over the phone.
Please, if anyone has any idea what this could be. I'm not in the same place for 3 months so I can't contact the locals or return the rocks.
Best of luck to you, dude...
The hills and your condition definitely seem linked.
One thing, are the rocks you took at your house now, or the one you live in when you go to school?
You should post pics if possible. Some people believe certain rocks have "magical properties". It could be something related?
>>17796661
> buzzing in my head
> feel something cold hold my shoulder
> info transferred into my brain
I'm afraid to tell you anon, that aliens are fucking with you, and you're mostly fucked since you can't really fight them, i have experienced something like that before, the cold sensation of their skin over my chest is something i will never forget, although i didn't feel any buzzing in my head, there's another thread called OKLAHOMA AYYLMAOS or something like that, the OP explains some sympthoms you have in this thread.
Sorry for the bad english, Peruvianfag right here, greetings.
>>17796688
>There are beings on a different plane of existence.
According to Vedas, true.
>Our mind is part of that plane, but our body is part of the physical plane.
And again, they could be talking about existing on a purely astral/mental plane - some demigods and ghosts are like this.
>Those beings don't have a "vessel" in the physical plane, but somehow I had given one of them a vessel.
This would only be lower forms like ghosts. Demigods who exists in the mental plane can freely interact with the physical.
>>17796729
From the paranormal angle, my guess is a ghost hitched a ride on your weakened body/mind when you were all heat-stroked out. Ghosts can form from suicide, and are basically a ball of desire without a way to act.
I recommend heading back and offering time/work/money at the local temples. Find a deity to your liking or just ask the locals. If anything, it will calm your psyche a bit.
>>17797909
You could always just pray directly to dieties. Chandra-deva controls the moon and the mind - might be a good start. Satyavati brings intelligence. Lord Ganesh removes obstacles. Of course I personally recommend heading straight to the source and doing bhajans for Vishnu, Krishna, or Narasimha.
>>17798409
No I didn't bring the rocks home. I posted all the pics of the hills I have.
>>17798430
But what could they get from all this?
>>17798532
Thank you for the information, friend. I knew a little bit but I think you may be on to something. If I remember correctly, there was a temple of Kali Ma at the foot of the hill were the two boys came from. The stones I had taken were near it. Apart from that, the major deity of the region is Ganesha.
>>17798550
Kali Ma has temples everywhere. Take the stones to one and ask there, perhaps.
Or, just accept this as Kali Ma coming into your life. Set up a shrine to the rocks and honor them as Her manifestation to you.
>>17798570
what is kali ma
>>17797909
OP, I'm being serious here. You should strongly consider making an appointment with a psychologist/psychiatrists. What you're describing sounds frighteningly similar to the beginning of schizophrenia. Please dude, even if you're skeptical.
>>17798589
Who. Kali Ma is the Supreme to some; the fierce, protective form of Durga to others. The Absolute Source or the consort to Shiva. If OP pursues this path, I recommend searching out Shakti practicioners.
>>17798599
Seconding this. Even if it's just a couple of sessions it'd be for the best. I've heard a few stories about how DID and Schizo start
>>17798570
I have been especially afraid of Hindu deities and their temples since I was a child, I mean they are pretty freaky.
What can I expect if I am to "accept" all this? How do I make it easier on me?
>>17798601
i want to learn more about shakti and vedic teachings and how to activate it in me. could you tell me the best place to start learning? or a book to start with? anything like that
>>17798599
>>17798603
I have thought about this. I have been a psychology student and so I thought I can never really be mentally ill since I know about the disorders. I have been to specialists earlier in life as I was suspected to have some kind of an autism spectrum issue. My mother only told me about this recently.
I'm frightened and I don't want this. I want to give myself some more time before I make any decisions. It's all so real to me. I just don't know.
>>17798599
>>17798603
>>17798622
To add upon that, I'm beginning to get convinced that psychosis and and supernatural experiences are connected.
>Feeds on feelings
>Exists is the plane of the mind
Tell me about the toilet witches, OP.
>>17798622
Make you're own choices, OP. All I'm saying is that it's a pretty classic presentation. Male, late teens early 20s, away from home, odd shit happens to him, strange feelings, etc. Get checked out man. For your own safety and your family.
>>17796481
Poo in the loo
>>17797061
Magazines made by a plastic chair company that are ridiculously unreliable
>>17796756
If I remember correctly gastric problems can lead to anxiety and stress problems which can trigger hallucinations. You might wanna go see a doctor again just in case.
>>17796661
>See this triangular image in my head, it was like a face or something
Was it something like this, with those two distinct marking on the upper side of its heads, almost like spirals, but not quite? (Ears, maybe?)
>>17796661
>Don't want to be around others
>suddenly you are smarter
Dude, Did a ghost just make you autistic?
>>17798599
I've been thinking this as well. It's kind of text book OP, please go do this. It could be something supernatural but you need to get checked out first.
>>17798622
I know that feeling too OP, it's terrifying when it's you and you feel completely alone and isolated from the rest of the world suddenly. The good news is that you can come back from that mental place and realize that you're not alone or even that different. It's good that you want to take time and consider all the options. My advice to you is to do the opposite of what you feel like and socialize as much as you can stand, talk to someone you trust. You might make them uncomfortable at first but they'll get over it. Just try to keep your emotions in check when you do. The longer you wait the harder it will be to talk to others about it.
>>17798622
Well, defining yourself as the antithesis of mentally ill doesn't actually prevent you from becoming mentally ill. What if you suffered physical brain damage during your heat stroke? Is your knowledge about psychology going to keep your body hydrated and healthy? Does your mental knowledge have power over physical reality like that?
Defining yourself as the antithesis of mentally ill is just going to put yourself out of touch with the parts of your body and brain which may or may not become unwell. That's when you start doing things without realizing it, as those parts which you've become out of touch manifest their desire, but do so in a way that you can't understand because you've already said "that's not me. I can't be that, so anything which does that, can't be me."
It's exactly like split brain disorders, except you don't have the convenience of knowing where the split lies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMLzP1VCANo
>>17800246
You fucking pleb that is literally Princess Ruto.
OP I have dreamt about hills of India. You must travel higher, my advice would be to visit that temple.
>>17800655
ya i think op is full of shit cuz thats the super obvious answer desu
>>17800586
lol
And then a poo in loo monster came
Here OP follow these tips.
1. youre dealing with a negative entity, therefor it feeds off all the negative energy you are generating. this includes fear, anger, sadness, or anythin of that sorts.
2. DO NOT let the entity make you scared or powerless, this will only make it stronger and more attached towards you. Learn to overcome it and let it know your the boss.
2. once you start releasing or becoming aware of the negative energy the entity is leeching off you youll start to regain composure these leeching effect are etheir thoughts or feelings. CONTROL THEM.
4. learn to meditate. this will further organize your thoughts and energy so you can sense foreign thoughts or energys around you or internally within you.
5. So OP you ready to kill off some bad entitys? when meditating give off LOVE and LIGHT this will litterally evaporate any negative energies in the area. (might sound cliche but it works, you give off frequencys with thoughts and words alone)
6. GIVE OFF POSITIVE VIBES. this will make them less controling over you and will probably make then less interested ( they go after weak minded people who know they can influence )
>>17798605
I recommend reading on the iconography of the deities, or if you prefer a personal route looking to the Puranas for the stories. Knowing who the deities are will help remove fear and alienation.
>>17798609
Naturally, I would say The Bhagavad-Gita, the Srimad-Bhagavatam, the Isa Upanishad, and the Chaitanya Charitamrita. But these are Gaudiya Vaishnava "canon texts." I would recommend Google for finding out more about the Shakti tradition. I saw one Shakti practicioner on /x/, but they must have left when I read their posts because I got no response.
>>17800246
You got the inverted triangular face right, apart from that it looked like it was on fire and floating not air.
>>17800358
I know but it's just too difficult. I get very anxious.
>>17800525
I understand that.
>>17801325
I have tried meditation and it helps. Thanks for the advice.
>>17801376
I will surely check that out.
>>17801447
>not air
I meant mid-air
>>17800655
I never got the chance to, I'll have to rent a car and take another route or something to get up there.
>>17801447
I believe I know these beings. It's not what anybody has said so far. It's not demons. It's not fairies. They're not ayy lmaos, not really. In a sense, they're not even real, since for all intents and purposes they don't come down into physicality. Of course, from their perspective, many of us aren't real to them either. I will call them Outsiders.
You see, they view all of humanity, all life on this planet like it was just a long interconnected nerve. And the Outsiders can navigate this branching tree of life, to peer into the lives of the living, zeroing in at whatever coordinates they choose. For the most part, they see the way humans treat each other, and how they can't even recognize this simple truth, and they think "this species is not sentient." Ironic, since according to humans we're the ONLY sentient species. But that's it exactly.
From the Outsider's perspective, sentience is a two-way street. If you can know they exist, they can know you exist, but if you don't think another species is sentient, then from that species perspective, you don't seem very self aware either. So, once in awhile they come across a human such as yourself who is EVEN CAPABLE of contemplating their existence, and that becomes their link to your consciousness. As long as you dwell upon them, using that burning triangular face as a calling card, they can access your thoughts as well based on how you reactions according to the information they send you. And the reason it comes in packets, in sudden bursts of information is because they view all of your timelines, from beginning to end as a single piece.
That's the main difference between their world, and ours. Our entire lifespan is only but a single moment of theirs. So when you're 'downloading' conversations, what they really do is they send you a personality module, that has everything that the Outsider *would* say, depending on what you ask it, and then it just responds according as your mind contemplates the module
>>17801780
cont...
Now, it's important to really relax. If you want them to leave you alone, all you have to do is ask. In fact, from now you should probably treat Outsiders like you would any normal human being. Be polite, but expect respect in return. Don't be worshipping, or putting up wards, or any of that nonsense. Always ask yourself how would you react, if you were the Outsider peering in, and these people started treating you like some sort of supernatural creature? It's just not a very conducive way to begin a dialogue.
Still, symbols are an excellent form of communication, and one way to help further your dialogue is to make drawings that represent your feelings on many levels. They are very very smart, and will see things about your psyche that you would likely never guess about yourself. The next time you feel like you're communicating with an Outsider, and you want to continue to know more, I recommend getting a pen and paper, and just sort of drawing what comes to mind. You might feel a pressure in your head, and as you draw it goes away once you get the idea out of your system. Feel free to experiment with alternate methods of communication. The more creative, the better.
That's what they're here for. As I said, they can already see everything in our universe on a physical level, and that's not interesting to them any longer. They know planetary orbits, molecular interactions, quantum mechanics, what humanity's going to figure out AFTER quantum mechanics, all that junk. But what's rare to them, what's very precious is when they find a person who has a mindset capable of communicating with them as equals. That's something they don't access to, because despite what it may seem like, the Outsiders cannot read your mind, but only make guesses based on your actions. (And relax, they don't care what you do, most of human behavior seems like pure random data to them anyways.)
>>17801812
cont...
But when a person conceptualizes them back, it creates fascinating mathematical patterns based on recursion, and that's what they're interested in. The life patterns. If you dwell on the Outsiders, you open up a window for them into our world, not on a physical level--which they already can peruse if they want--but at a mental level, which is extraordinary. Think about it. It took 4.5 billion years for Earth to get to this point, so by granting them access to your mind, you basically save them that much time. And although I said they view lifetimes like they were moments, well that's still about 90 million moments, which is significant.
In return, they can of course communicate to you just about anything you could possibly want to know. There's a few blacklisted items. Ugh, if you start making weapons, you're done. You're blocked, done, over with. If you start talking to people about this quite a lot, you will be creating interference, and that's not very appealing. You can share a little bit, at a time if you think it helps. But don't make waves, you understand? You're not the only consciousness down here, and if you go around talking about Outsiders, it can stir up quite a panic, and they've already seen enough of that in the last 8,000 years.
And for that matter, as others have said, this type of communication can and often does lead to paranoid schizophrenia. That's the trouble here. Outsiders are in fact communicating directly to your consciousness. At the same time, you are still human and prone to mistakes. Sometimes you might think they are telling you something, but it is actually a delusion. Other times you might think it's a delusion, but Outsiders are in fact attempting to get your attention. The human brain isn't that well equipped to handle this kind of thing.
>>17801846
But, if you manage to form a stable connection that is mutually beneficial to both parties, then it can be a positive change in your life. If this doesn't seem like something you can do, then I recommend firmly, but respectfully telling the Outsiders to please leave your mind alone, just as you would tell a stranger on your porch to please go away and never return.
If you are desperate, I can certainly try to ask for you, but I would need some way to identify who you are to them. For instance, you could just show me something that you have that nobody else in the world has. You could make a drawing, take a picture and post it here, or show me some lucky keepsakes you have that no other 7 billion humans on this planet would have exactly alike.
Regardless, be calm, because they can't hurt you, they don't really intend to hurt you, and can only affect your consciousness anyways. Outsiders are literally only as real as you let them be.
>>17801780
>>17801812
>>17801846
>>17801850
So this is unrelated to my experience on the hills?
Your explanation of the Outsiders makes sense, it matches some of what I have been "told".
>They exist in a "stream of pure consciousness", which transcends this world
>Our minds also travel these "streams" but can comprehend a small part of it at a time; we are contained by the very vehicles that carry us
I haven't told others around me but they are beginning to figure out that something is amiss. I have been seriously considering talking to someone about this and going to see a psychologist.
They seem to be beyond our understanding, so questions about their motives, purpose and so on would be in vain. However, why do they negatively affect my emotions and why do I feel distant to people around me?
>>17796688
Get rid of the fucking rocks anon
It might be too late but it cant hurt to bury those mother fuckers 10 feet below the ground you found them on.
>>17796688
Bruh get you some sage, some salt, some red string and some holy water. Maybe some cold iron because you never know
>>17796808
^^^^^
>>17801863
If you had continued to walk in the direction you did, you would have died. The Outsiders, seeing this as a distinct possibility, communicated with a person (probably a child, since they're more receptive) who told a guy, who got the attention of someone who stopped you, essentially saving your life. It's nothing to worry about. People get saved like this ALL the time.
Anyways, having had a slight brush with death, and gained the attention of the Outsiders, you're now in a position to continue a dialogue. How to proceed is entirely up to you. If you go to see a psychologist, they will convince that none of this is real, and the dialogue will end. And from the psychologist's perspective, none of this is real.
If you don't go to see a psychologist, and continue to dwell on the Outsiders in a negative way, then you will continue to spiral downwards. They don't really understand what's good or bad for our species. That's how much they respect you. They trust you to use this form of communication responsibly, and to handle your own psyche.
If you don't go to see a psychologist, and continue to dwell on the Outsiders in a positive way, you will instead spiral upwards. It's entirely about how you use this information. Treat it exactly like a library pass, to a very vast library of information that just happens to not be well known around the world. You wouldn't spend all day in the library, or talk about stuff that you expect others have no idea about it. And if you start using the library to access weird, bizarre information that has no relevance to your life, it's just a waste of time.
Again, nobody's here to hold your hand. But I'll tell you how I use it. Once in awhile, I go out and walk to a specific park I like, and smoke a cigarette. That's my cue that "I'm ready to talk." When the cigarette's over, and I walk home, that's my cue for "It's done now." I then write what I learned in a notebook, and use it if it's relevant to my life.
>>17801945
this is the most schizo shit ive ever read,
so unless you want to end up like this guy OP i'd get yourself checked out by a doctor
>>17801945
>>17801952
I'm really confused now... I'm feeling a general mistrust towards people, which is making me too anxious to tell anyone about this. I'm inclined towards trying to make peace with whatever it is before I do anything.
Right now it feels like my mind is swimming in a thick liquid.
I don't know what is happening.
I just don't know.
>>17801952
I understand your perspective on the matter. It is entirely true that if you disbelieve this line of thinking, then it will absolutely not affect you. So, in a sense, yes, none of this is relevant to the reality of people who choose to disbelieve the possibility of an Outsider.
However, if you instead choose to believe in the possibility of an Outsider, you will have the option of understanding the same information than an Outsider would have. You might be prone to say "Well, this is all just in your imagination!"
That is correct. The imagination is the conduit by which one is able to communicate on a mind to mind basis. Geometry is the universal language, and if you can tell a story using only shapes, (as well as have the mental focus to envision what this would look like in your imagination) then you will be able to communicate with any life form, anywhere.
It's worth noting that in fact, some humans do not have this ability. Not having this ability, they don't even know that they don't have it. From their perspective, having this ability would be magic, since they can't possibly imagine how it could work. However, it's not magic, it's just a form of consciousness.
https://braindecoder.com/post/aphantasia-newly-recognized-condition-of-a-blind-minds-eye-1236434508
So it is with many of the forms of consciousness. There are things which are only true from the perspective of those who hold those things to be true. There are abilities which are only conceivable if you have the ability to conceive that it is.
>>17801966
You have three choices,
A. Stock up on various occult protection charms, get you some jesus and return the goddamn rocks
B. get some psychiatric help
C. both
I'd do choice C but thats just me
>>17801969
This guy need actual help, what he doesn't need is schizo babblings confusing him and what he absolutely doesn't need is to sit back and accept whats happening to him.
A. there is an outside force trying to get in and thats bad
B. hes losing his mind and thats bad
sitting back and accepting those things is the absolute worst thing you can do
>>17801970
I am living with my parents for the next couple of months, and I really don't want to startle them about this? How do I go about things? They are bound to notice, no matter what I do.
>>17801970
The occult protection charms will work, but not because they're magic. The Outsider will just see what you're doing, consult what happened the last time a human started wearing and displaying such charms, and figure out that you think it's a demon. At which point it will realize you're not sentient after all, and move on to find someone who can talk like a normal person.
They're people just like you and I. Are YOU a demon? How would YOU feel if someone started throwing salt at your feet, saying prayers, and showing you their strange occult charms like it was supposed to banish you or something. Personally, I'd be kinda' creeped out. So, please don't do this.
A simple note saying "Please leave me alone, and never talk to me again" will suffice, if that's what you want. You can draw two people walking away from each other on the note, to really drive home the point of not seeing each other any more.
>>17801973
The thing is, what he is saying is actually pretty close to what I am feeling, though I'm still extremely afraid of it.
>>17801989
So you're just saying be friendly to them? after OP almost got his brain hijacked?
>>17801990
Trust me just ignore that guy, seek spiritual and medical help. Probably the latter. Lets say he is right, I mean are you really going to treak the things that have been doing this shit to you with any respect whatsoever? Fuck no, banish the fuckers. Take some mind altering drugs, soak your hands in holy water and flail randomly whenever you feel like you're being "watched"
>>17802002
>soak your hands in holy water and flail randomly whenever you feel like you're being "watched"
kek
>>17801998
I'm saying that OP should treat the presence with the same manners and respect that he would any other person. If you're walking in the supermarket and someone's in your way, do you throw salt at them, or do you say "Excuse me, I'm trying to get by?" Throwing salt at is what you do to slugs you're trying to kill. It sends the message "you are just a slug to me." And if you do that to an Outsider, they will treat you like an bug as well.
It's really unfortunate that humans can't even have a normal conversation with these people, without consulting their doctors, or priests. But, that just goes to show that many on this world are just ready for that level of contact yet. As you will. The ball is in your court. Hit if back if you want, or ignore it as you like.
>>17802018
I don't think I can ever not be afraid of them.
As >>17801998 said, it did try to "possess" me. It was hurting me without making me feel pain, to the point where I wanted to give in. What have I done?
I don't know what to do. I will not try to harm it, what if that just agitates it more? I can't.
I don't know.
> paper charms
>>17796612
LOO
>>17801989
You're really talking out your ass buddy. First off, stop trying to make "Outsiders" a thing, your trans-dimensional/ higher plane beings have already been made up by more original people. Second, this guy is asking for real help, he doesn't need you pushing your crap on him so your idea cab gain popularity.
If your "Outsiders" are truly as smart as you claim, he wouldn't be going through this. If they "know planetary orbits, molecular interactions, quantum mechanics, what humanity's going to figure out AFTER quantum mechanics, all that junk", they'd definitely know enough to know that they're causing him distress or giving him schizo or whatever.
OP, this only sounds like what you may be going through because this guy has been reading the thread to adjust his narrative. It's that simple.
This guy can't even make up his mind as to whether his fiction creatures are really or not in his own narrative, it's the most backwards version of the placebo effect I've ever read.
If you want my advice I suggest you see a Psychiatrist. You might know a thing or two about mental disorders but trust me, you've only studied phycology, Psychiatrists are the ones that are best suited to help you.
>>17802048
>phycology
I meant Psychology.
>>17802036
It did not intend to cause any harm. They're not very good at knowing when humans are in pain, or frightened.
The reason it semi-possessed you, is because that's the only way they can interact in our physical reality. They have no bodies of their own, so they borrow ours. But, only with your permission. By taking the stones, they think you maybe are trying to continue having a dialogue, which would involve them possessing a portion of your consciousness.
>I will not try to harm it, what if that just agitates it more
That's exactly what the Outsiders are saying to each other right now. It's like if a bird flew into your house, and started panicking. And you don't want to hurt it, but every time you open a window for it, it gets frightened and flies off in the opposite direction. You could grab it firmly, but that might damage its wings or something, you're not sure. You don't know how fragile birds of this species are.
If you write the words "Please leave me alone, and never contact me again," and draw a bird leaving the window of a house, they will leave you alone and never contact you again. This is how you signal to your subconscious that you don't want to dwell on such thoughts any more.
Here is an example image of what to try, if that is your indeed your choice.
>>17802048
A part of my mind knows that I should get help but I just can't. Something just keeps holding me back. Something bad will happen. People are not trustworthy. I can't do it.
>>17802068
I have tried telling it to go away but it's been a long while. I will draw something like that, I just want the best for me and my family. I don't understand this and just end up feeling sick.
>>17802048
>If your "Outsiders" are truly as smart as you claim, he wouldn't be going through this. If they "know planetary orbits, molecular interactions, quantum mechanics, what humanity's going to figure out AFTER quantum mechanics, all that junk", they'd definitely know enough to know that they're causing him distress or giving him schizo or whatever.
Not really. Have you ever met a human that had a very strong knowledge about mathematics and hard sciences, but seemed to lack empathy? I have, several times. It is a distinct possibility. In a way, emotional intelligence is its own kind of intelligence. Blessed are those who are capable of both mechanical intelligence and emotional intelligence.
The Outsiders that OP is having a dialogue with are not so much in the emotional direction. That is specifically their interest here, at this time. While they have an excellent knowledge about mathematical functions and the mechanisms of our physical reality, they are are sorely lacking in cultural and emotional knowledge. These things, from their perspective, take the form of complex recursive data streams, kind of like a non-spatial fractal. Being able to observe and understand humanity from a human's perspective is thus very valuable.
That's exactly what I mean about learning to treat non-humanoid intelligences as if they were actually really people. They're not gods. Just because they figured out how particles work doesn't mean they can just simulate the entire universe and know everything. Even if they did *hint hint* they would only have a cursory understanding of how cultural and emotional information propogates. To really understand it, the way a human does, they would need someone down here, who's living it in real time to respond to the Outsider's interactions, providing feedback and clarifying what is and isn't preferable from a human perspective.
>>17802084
That still makes no sense. Even those that are emotionally blunted can still RECOGNIZE when people are going through various emotions even if they themselves don't feel them.
You know why? Because emotions effect behavior and behavior is observable. Even though there would hypothetically be an aspect of quantitive analysis that would need to be applied for some time until they've got it ironed out, your beings have supposedly beem watching life long enough to draw the appropriate patterns.
And that whole bird flying into your house analogy was laughable. OP didn't invade "their" mind, they invaded his (if we're going by you narrative). You just made a story that was too complicated for to entirely manage.
If they're as benign as you're trying to make them out to be then why is OP socially secluding himself? How is that side effect even relevant to outsiders?
Why did OP feel like he was touched that time he was sleeping?
Then there's that whole thing about them only communicating with beings that are "EVEN CAPABLE of contemplating their existence". That is the lowest requirement to be contacted by higher planed beings I've ever heard. Just by informing other people about the very idea of the "outsiders" would make those people able to comprehend and therefore link with one (unless someone is has a learning deficiency).
Please stop this role playing crap so OP can be more inclined to make a better choice then to play pretend with you.
But I do admit that there's a chance that I'm all wrong about you. Maybe you aren't a roleplayer, maybe this isn't all narrative that you're trying to push. If I'm wrong then I apologize for being so harsh on someone who just clearly has a mental condition. In which case I can only ask that you get back on your meds.
Did OP figure out how to poo in loo or did the toilet witches get him?
>>17801984
Those who have cared for your well being to get you to the point you were before independence should always be confided in, they were there before without you even asking, they will always be there.
It's always best to trust in family or you'll find yourself a stranger to everyone.
Speaking of which be weary of what strangers here throw out, they do not know you and inverse your family your fate was as little concern to them before as it will be should you stop posting this instant. Do NOT give yourself completely to anything or anyone who has not given their time and trust to deserve it. The greatest knowledge is not simple information, but the wisdom we grow with that helps us every day.
>>17802149
^This.
>>17802149
Ok, thank you. I'm sort of new to x so it's confusing for me. I'll try to have a talk with my parents soon about this before I leave again.
RC cola inbound!!!
>>17796704
Everybody want to see the cow
>>17797557
Who is dis nikka?
>>17801850
>Still, symbols are an excellent form of communication, and one way to help further your dialogue is to make drawings that represent your feelings on many levels. They are very very smart, and will see things about your psyche that you would likely never guess about yourself. The next time you feel like you're communicating with an Outsider, and you want to continue to know more, I recommend getting a pen and paper, and just sort of drawing what comes to mind. You might feel a pressure in your head, and as you draw it goes away once you get the idea out of your system. Feel free to experiment with alternate methods of communication. The more creative, the better.
This is the stupidest shit I've ever read.
>>17803150
I don't know, I didn't even notice him
>>17803259
The truck in the picture reminded me.
Ask truck drivers about stuff. Or Bus Drivers. They see a lot of shit and can know quite a bit.
If they have a job where they have a task to take something from A to B as fast as possible but they avoid certain places it can tell you a lot.
>>17803137
Here
>>17803303
That is a good idea. I know a few taxi drivers from the region.
I think whatever it is, it's more localized or tied to the abode itself you're staying in for your studies, rather than something you brought with you from the nearby hills.
You could arrange other accommodation when you go back.
>>17796481
poo in the loo
