Post webms of the great movie Intersteller
>>818572
>>818578
Thanks a million, OP!
Booo this thread boooooo
fuck the haters, OP. I liked interstellar
>>818600
Stop pretending like its not only you
>>818600
Indeed, people seem to not be able to enjoy a good film these days.
Last of the man goes nuts webms
>>818613
>>818582
>>818592
>>818604
samefag
>>818606
>Last of the man goes nuts webms
Wait, so are you still going to make this one: https://youtu.be/kkVulaGNwOI
Last one for now
this is for the guy who wanted Hathaways passing out arm goes up bit.
>>818622
I thought with the title you wanted the "you coward bit"
>>818630
>Last one for now
Aw man -- it wasn't what I had in mind, no.
It's cool though. Maybe another time.
>>818647
Since your so assblassed, here some more webms
>>818650
>>818652
>>818661
>not staying with anne hathway and making tons and tons of babies while populating the planet....
>>818686
>tfw that is actually a fetish/fantasy of mine.
>>818699
id say thats more of a primal instinct that a fetish.
>>818708
True.
Hell, give me a corner of Antarctica or the empty desert, and one or more suitable woman. doesn't have to be a space colony and I would be good to go.
>>818708
Although I agree, it is more of a fantasy now as there's not many circumstances that are realistically putting a male and female as the only hope for humanity.
hans zimmer was the reason i watched the whole movie.
Any from the black hole sequence?
>>818692
BREAKING THE LAW
YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
>>818653
LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO JOIN HIM TOO
Say what you will about the film itself, the score for it was fucking sweet
>>818572
I went to see this movie. The only thing I remember it being was the storyline being the work of a committee with archs meant to appeal to everyone. Not much about the story or even the visuals.
Is it worth re watching and following the story?
>>818740
>Worst filename award
You did it anon
>>818760
>>818765
>>818657
>Sequence 3
>3.33 MB
Fascinating work.
Loved Interstellar till the twist, fucking hack job
>>818572
I have no weebums but I loved the film and the soundtrack was great. Here's muh favourite track
https://youtu.be/8mLCaXvVPas
Absolute best part of the movie.
Movie was broken. Plot holes. Paradoxes. Bad pointless choices and dialog.
Turns out that writers can't seem to keep from shitting all over their own work.
>>823191
Dude you're wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4016wZjCTM
The movie explained for dumb people like you
this movie had gorgeous lighting
>>818578
>using two aspect ratios in the same movie
pig disgusting
>>818572
tried to watch this movie, but just got sleepy as fuck everytime I tried. fuck it.
>>827505
what the fuck are you even talking about you liberal arts major? it's 16:9
btw this is the song you hear when you die
>>830205
Hey fuck off nigger I'm a STEM major.
I'm talking about how it goes letterboxed at 0:06 seconds into the webm. They do this in the actual blu ray release because they filmed parts of the movie in imax ratio and the rest of it in normal 2.35:1 cinemascope ratio, which is much wider and shorter than imax.
>>818618
Best scene of the movie. So fucking intense. It was insane for him to go after the endurance while it was in an uncontrolled spin descending into the atmosphere.
>>830216
oh my youre right, what the actual fuck
>>818572
>great movie Intersteller
It bored me out of my mind even more than Jupiter Ascending.
Too long to be enjoyable.
>>830639
>>830647
Just cz it was directed by Nolan and full of emotional turmoils with an overcomplicated plot doesn't make it any good.
>>830661
>overcomplicated plot
whatya 12?
>>830666
Okay, say I'm 12, then wrap it up for stupid little me in a few sentences that cover everything.
Can you?
>>830676
A team of explorers travel through a wormhole in space in an attempt to ensure humanity's survival.
>>830688
That's the 5 year old version. Give me the 12 year old version.
This is like explaining snow is usually white in colour and always cold to the touch.
But, know what...don't bother. IMO Interstellar was overhyped and too long to be enjoyable, case closed.
>>818572
The Martian was better
>>830695
Ex Machina was a better film, you should check it out
>>830714
Ex Machina was so stupid. For a guy who's only goal was to make an AI that is smart enough to escape his rat cage he had ridiculously shitty security measures.
Guy went in with a fucking baseballbat? Or was it his bare hands?
>>818572
I didn't like it
>>818572
I liked it
>>830719
He was holding a barbel that was good enough to smash the arms off a robot and kill another one.
The robots weren't strong enough to out-fight him, they were pretty weak shells as it goes. Strong enough for household chores and fucking.
>>830317
I fucking died on this one
>>827505
I actually enjoyed that on my 16:9 screen: it made some scenes look like it was a series and others like it was a film.
But watching it on my 21:9 screen is a shitty experience.
i cried in theatres
>>841542
When I was a kid, I used to have nightmares about the extreme passage of time.
Seeing that realized was too much for me to handle and I broke down on numerous occasions in the movie.
>>818626
literally had constant shivers when watching this in the cinema.
>>841542
I was so emotional while watching this in the cinemas. I didn't think I had it in me to cry in public like that. Suprised me a whole lot.
>>830705
kek grimmer Nazi delivers.
>>842000
>I used to have nightmares about the extreme passage of time.
Watch Gunbuster.
>>818572
Chicken and the egg bullshit paradoxes.
A. If humans didn't survive on their own in the first place they couldn't have done any of the stupid ass love is magic bullshit they did to fuck with the time line.
B. If humans did survive on their own, why would anyone in the future want to go back in time and make VAST changes in their own time line ensuring they them selfs never existed in the first place - See butterfly effect.
Don't get me wrong, the movie was kind of cool, but it fucking failed hard on the plot site.
>>842146
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle
>>818916
I don't even care what people think about the story but how the fuck could anyone say that the visuals were anything but impressive?
>>830219
No, it was necessary
>>842334
Yeah, no. This would insinuate that them going back in time and making all of those changes would create no significant deviation which is bullshit.
" The principle asserts that if an event exists that would give rise to a paradox, or to any "change" to the past whatsoever, then the probability of that event is zero. It would thus be impossible to create time paradoxes."
You know what fine. You want to wax intellectual?
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/space_20/2014/11/interstellar_science_review_the_movie_s_black_holes_wormholes_relativity.html
TL;DR - playing with black holes and significant time dilatation is Bullshit.
>>841542
I'm sad i never got to see it in the cinema
>>818686
>all your grandchildren are inbred with eyes on the sides of their heads
>human race dies out
>>842675
I got to see it at the hackworth Imax DOME last year movie was outstanding
one of the best movies in the last 25 years
>>818699
There was one thing I didn't get about the base camp.
Did her husband build it?
Were there other members of the same exploration team with him?
Are they still alive?
Did the team build the camp?
>>842716
He wasn't her husband.
No, only one person per planet.
No.
No, she did.
>>842716
Don't bother racking your brain about it. The whole thing was written terribly and made no sense.
>>818613
>Sound goes away when after the hole opens
Unf.
>>845110
Yup, me too.
>>845667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_zirxsW7oQ
>>845673
I appreciate the attempt, but that is not the same version at all.
>>846483
Not sure particles is the word you are looking for. Sound is caused by changes in physical pressure referred to as vibration. As there is pretty much no physical pressure of any kind in space there can be no vibration.
What I wonder is at what altitude within our own atmosphere does sound stop being a viable means of sensory input?
>>846483
>>846722
Found a decent answer to my own question, seems around 100db [a pretty loud yell] the sound wont travel above somewhere around 76k feet. The pressure change is too small to create a significant vibration in the surrounding gases. I guess it should be noted that if you were that high up with out a pressure suit and breathing assistance - you would not be having a very good day.
>>818600
This is so fucking stupid.
>Land on planet
>Somehow don't notice the MASSIVE WALL OF WATER THAT'S WITHIN ONLY A FEW MINUTES OF CONTACT
>>846752
.... Nice try.
We all know that the fucking planet would have been tidally locked and the wave [let alone the entire planet] couldn't have existed in the first place.
>>818618
Dialogue like "it's not possible..it's necessary." is why I didn't enjoy the movie as much as I wanted to.
>>842675
i feel this massive pain that i didnt see it in imax...
This movie blows
>>842624
It can still work, but only if the movie is willing to suggest far more than what is reasonable.
If the humans of the future are multidimensional beings, you would be right in them not being from "our future." They could actually be from an other timeline, saving older ones where humanity died off in an effort to meet them when they have the technology to. And the reasoning for that could be that they are beings of pure conscientiousness at this point, whose only purpose anymore is to learn literally everything that is possible in their (and other) realities.
Of course that gets into some Terence McKenna tier bullshit, so I'd take it for what it is.
Interstellar is a shitty movie.
Is there any aspect of this movie that was better than Kubrick's Space Odyssey?
>just don't tell you haven't seen that
>>827474
>in spanish
Explained for Mexicans, eh?
>>818572
>InterstellEr
heh
You know what pissed me off? On the deluxe edition of the soundtrack through iTunes they fucked the audio on "No Time For Caution" (the docking scene music). They made it way too quiet when the organ really kicks in and it makes me so mad cause I don't have the audio knowledge to go in and fix it myself, and of course that's my favorite track.
>>830695
>Astronauts gets magic message to go to Nasa because earth is dying
>Goes to Nasa and gets sent to a mission to save humanity by flying through a wormhole to a different planetary system that has black whole as central body
>They have to check out three planets that have been checked by other astronauts before
>First planet is a fluke because signal just crashed minutes ago but because of the time warping properties of the black hole they thought it was working for years
>they lost years worth of fuel because they were too retarded to think of the time warping beforehand and were too stupid to plan ahead which planets to visit first
>they go to second planet but it's also a fluke because guy on the planet was a pussy sending fake signals just trying to get someone to save him, so he tries to kill everybody
>they somehow escape the maniac and try to reach third planet
>Guy sacrifices himself by shooting himself into black hole so space ship can go to third planet
>Guy survives going into black hole and acquires wizard powers
>turns out PLOT TWIST he sent the magic message at the beginning of the movie. Also uses wizard powers to tell daughter how to build space colony
>somehow they get him out of black hole and he watches his daughter die of old age
>also woman made it to third planet
the end
>>848624 - multidimensional
NO! No no no no no no no no. just. fucking. no.
I will not accept them being able to pull that convenient fucking reasoning as a bullshit hand waving technique to cover up their terrible fucking writing. These fucks already hand wave too much bull shit while trying to say it is "accurate" NO. This has already gone too far, no farther.
YOU HAVE TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND, DUDE. YOU HAVE TO LOOK DEEP IN SIDE YOUR SELF AND SAY "What am I willing to put up with today?"
NOT! FUCKING! THIS!
>>842146
just think it was aliens and it'll be k
>>842146
>Chicken and the egg bullshit paradoxes.
That's not actually a paradox, though. It's completely self-consistent.
Unnecessarily convoluted, but still consistent.
Also, this >>830317 deserves a webm.
>>850835
brilliant
is it weird that the two characters that showed the most emotion to me were monolith like robots? (TARS & CHASE)
>>846799
the tidal locking on Miller's world had been disturbed by something, and the egg-shaped planet was wobbling back and forth as it moved back into the locked position. This caused the world oceans to slosh around back and forth, and created the giant tidal bulges/waves.
It should only take like a day for a planet that close to a black hole to get tidally locked again, but the time dilation aspect kind of throws all that out the window; who knows what would really appear to happen if one were able to land on such a planet. Maybe the momentum of the waves already sloshing about keeps it from getting tidally locked as fast as it theoretically should.
>>818572
>I spent the entire movie being suspicious as hell of the robot
>this happens
>robot turns out to be brobot
I wish someone had told me the robot's absolutely good, kinda ruined it me thinking he was gunna turn at any moment like HAL or whatever
>>842146
it feels like you're either really fucking stupid or didn't pay any attention while watching the movie
>>842146
the chicken and the egg isn't a paradox shit for brains
it's more like the bootstrap paradox
>>850891
i think they wanted the audience to be suspicious of it since it looked like the monolith from 2001 a space odyssey
>>850835
>>850948
Call it what you will. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Its a old ass saying that really makes no sense as we understand evolution now, however in this context it means one can't exist with out the other already being there, and in this case one obviously never could have been. The only working possibility is that the 5 dimensional beings were not future humans, as if they were they would not have survived to create wormhole in the first place, and if they did, they would have altered their own history so vastly they them selfs would not have existed - creating a paradox. Not to mention they seems to have done pretty well for them selfs considering they evolved that far, why bother stirring the pot.
>>850882
Lets say you're right. Pretty sure the only way that works is if the wave is a tsunami created by an impact or seismic activity. The wave was a mile high with a sharp [with all things considered] edge. Unless the planet is unbelievably small the bulge would be so gradual you wouldn't even notice it coming. With 1.3g I am thinking it wasn't that small of a planet. Then again planet was moving retarded fast around the black hole - orbit was 1.7 hours real time. Good luck landing on that with your space ship.
>>850642
It solves the issues sure, but creates too many questions. I still think with the intelligence and ability of the aliens they would have been smart enough to simply send them a solution to the issues at hand.
>>851679
It's not a paradox.
People from the future traveled back to the past to create the situation that allowed them to exist in the future.
People in the past were saved by interventions from the future, then went on to carry out those those interventions.
It's a closed loop. A paradox require a self-contradiction, but this is completely consistent.
>>851700
Impossible. The initial loop would require the humans to survive for there to have ever been future humans. And for them to go back and change their past that drastically would have caused them selfs not to exist as a completely different future would have occurred due to the butterfly effect.
>>851705
>The initial loop would require the humans to survive for there to have ever been future humans.
There is no "initial loop" - the loop only occurs once.
I think your treating this as if time travel is people going back an changing the past - it's not. Time travel is people going back and causing the past - their actions were always part of history.
There is no "before" and "after" timeline, because "before" and "after" are concepts that only make sense INSIDE time.
Way back in the thread (>>842334) someone posted the Wikipedia article on the self-consistency principle. You should read it.
>>848733
well yeah, no way a white man would be as stupid as you ;)
>>851729
Effect follows cause.
The NSCP
"The principle asserts that if an event exists that would give rise to a paradox, or to any "change" to the past whatsoever, then the probability of that event is zero. It would thus be impossible to create time paradoxes"
Simplified version of what happens in the movie
I die 3 days ago. I then 5 years from now go back in time and keep myself from dying.
Last I checked I would have already been dead for 5 years and and there would be no way for me to
a. Crawl out of my coffin and dig myself out of the earth
b. Go invent a time machine.
c. Go back in time and stop that from. happening.
Then the NSCP states that when I got up out of my grave that I would be unable to save myself from dying.
Not sure how that applies here.
>>851770
>"The principle asserts that if an event exists that would give rise to a paradox, or to any "change" to the past whatsoever, then the probability of that event is zero. It would thus be impossible to create time paradoxes"
It states more than that.
>Simplified version of what happens in the movie
>I die 3 days ago. I then 5 years from now go back in time and keep myself from dying.
But that's not what happens in the movie. At all.
How about "I almost die, but myself from the future rescues me. Then, I invent a time machine and go back to save myself". Note the lack of a paradox.
>Last I checked I would have already been dead for 5 years and and there would be no way for me to
>a. Crawl out of my coffin and dig myself out of the earth
>b. Go invent a time machine.
>c. Go back in time and stop that from. happening.
Are you intentionally missing the point here? That's both inconstant and entirely irrelevant.
>Then the NSCP states that when I got up out of my grave that I would be unable to save myself from dying.
No it doesn't. In fact that's the opposite of what it says.
If you die then you're dead, and the NSCP says there IS NO "future you" to save you.
>>851825
point 1 - Of course it it states more than that, but that is the core of it.
Point 2 - The humans didn't almost die, they did die - Or there would be no point in the rescue at all as there would be no need for one. There is no difference in the scenario with the exception of a scale, which means nothing. If I am going to die, and a future me stops that from happening - this implies the need for rescue in the first place. I mean granted I am a bit of a dick and would probably just go back in time to mess with my own head, but most people would only consider something like that if there was a need.
point 3 - this is what they are saying is possible with this movie's plot. Either A. the humans were going to die, and as such would have never lived long enough to create time travel to save them selfs - or B the humans were not going to die and time travel was not needed in the first place. Which brigs me to C. Aliens did it.
point 4 - stop agreeing with me. "If you die then you're dead, and the NSCP says there IS NO "future you" to save you." However the NSCP doesn't say this. Logic says this. If I have no cup, then I can not fill that cup with water.
>>851863
>Point 2 - The humans didn't almost die, they did die
At what point in the move did the human race die out?
Because unless I'm badly mis-remembering the move, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
>point 3 - this is what they are saying is possible with this movie's plot. Either A. the humans were going to die, and as such would have never lived long enough to create time travel to save them selfs - or B the humans were not going to die and time travel was not needed in the first place.
What? No.
You rescue people who are going to die IF you don't help them. And that's what happened in the movie: The humans would have died, but they were saved by people from the future. The people in the future were alive because humans in the past had been rescued.
So neither of your scenarios actually correspond to the events shown in the movie.
>However the NSCP doesn't say this.
NSCP definitely says that. It says that temporal paradoxes have a probability of zero, because there is a single, consistent timeline. If you actually died, then future you existing is obviously a paradox. Hence, there is no "future you"
However, none of that is relevant here, because humanity didn't die in the movie.
I think you're horribly confused about something, but it's not clear what. Either you really need to re-watch Interstellar, or you need to stop assuming that it follows whatever model of time travel you're currently trying to use.
>>851705
which is why it's a bootstrap paradox and not some lame ass chicken and the egg thing
>>852121
About Point 3. There is a paradox within the movie which sucks. But I was always thinking about multiple dimensions and different outcomes for different future humans. It's a bad excuse though to patch up a bad script. Still enjoyed the movie.
>>852169
>About Point 3. There is a paradox within the movie which sucks.
I don't see what the paradox is. It's just a closed loop.
>>852121
The thing that confuses him is that he thinks the only possible thing that could make future humans decide to go back in time and help past humans is humanity going extinct. Which is completely baseless.
How do you think hans zimmer feels about how rewarding his life has been? He's literally the unsung hero of great movies for the past decade.
>>852303
>shitty webm
Still better than intersteller movie
>>852121
I see the problem. You are under the assumption that "humanity" was going to survive. This is incorrect as explained by the movie. They state all throughout the movie that they were going to die. As there was never any working plan b in the first place - see old fart that basically lied about it - they would have died. And if there was no worm hole for the ark to pass through to get to a habitable planet - poof no humanity. They killed the world and by extension, them selfs.
Lets cut to the fucking chase here - the writers could have easily explained all of this with probably less than 10 seconds of exposition, but instead they wrote in a paradox [Feel free to call it what ever helps you sleep better - I know I will] and didn't bother to try to cover any of that pre or post, which alone would have made a MUCH better movie by its self. Instead they covered the concepts of how love is a magical force and I can transcend space and time by jerking off a brony and jizzing friendship sparkles. Fuck them.
>>852269
No the thing that confuses me is the premise that humanity was going to survive - the movie from the start constantly drums this sense of strife and dread that everything is coming to an end on earth and nothing can save them - poof magical gravity and worm holes.
Let me phrase this to you then, if the messages never came, and there was no worm hole. would humanity have survived?
And if humanity did survive on its own why was there ever a need for any of that?
>>852544
> if the messages never came, and there was no worm hole. would humanity have survived?
Probably not. But the messages came, so it did.
>And if humanity did survive on its own
It didn't. Because the fucking messages came.
>>852550
Then none of this is possible and humanity died. A dead race can not go back into the past and save its self - because that whole being dead thing, ya'know?
It was so close to being a 10/10 movie for me.
If it had had a better ending that didn't just resort to 'lol space magic' it would have been in my top five.
>>852562
Don't forget the love part! 'space love magic'!
>>818626
aaaaaaaaaaaand im rewatching it
>>852566
Haha, yeah.
His relationship with his daughter was this incredibly moving and difficult to accept affair that added such an amazing human element to what would otherwise have been a space mission movie.
But when love trumped physics, and that whole floating behind the bookshelf thing happened I was just openly wutting in the cinema.
>>830695
>Do this
>Waaah thats not how I wanted it
>Whatever I'm right
Webm related
>>850835
o i am laffin
>>852303
Is this Space Engine?
>>852600
yes
>>852582
When the WOMAN on the crew - and yes I refuse to acknowledge that character as anything but a stupid and insulting attempt at symbolism - starts describing love, I started checking imdb for who was playing the vampire love interest.
What would have made this movie worth it for me no matter the stupid fucking plot would have been Melissa McCarthy in her role as Mullins from the heat. That shit would have made this movie a masterpiece.
>>848822
Fucking perfect.
I feel like when you read the plot this way, you realize how Nolan/Hans might have gone a little to pretentious with it. I suppose its either this or over explanatory dialogue? Kubrick and Ridley managed to pull it off....
>>848822
i guess i'll never be able to recover from that shitty "wizard" twist plot. went to enjoy a good hard sf movie, left with "muh magical tesseract" and "love equation" bullshits screaming all over my face.
>>818618
Fuck off with this motion smoothed HFR crap
>>852558
>I see the problem. You are under the assumption that "humanity" was going to survive.
That's not an assumption. That was shown in the movie itself.
>And if there was no worm hole for the ark to pass through to get to a habitable planet - poof no humanity.
But there was a wormhole. So they did survive.
>>852558
>Then none of this is possible and humanity died.
You keep saying that, BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED.
>A dead race can not go back into the past and save its self
Of course. But a living race can. The "what if thay weren't saved" doesn't matter, because they WERE saved.
I don't understand why you're fixating on the whole "humanity wouldn't have survived without being rescued". That's not a paradox, that's just what being rescued means.
>>852712
My source file was 29fps when I made that webm, back in like January. Plus it's almost 4 minutes long crammed in 4MB.
here's a better version from a 24fps source
>>852809
niceeee
>>849076
I'm with you man. Everything about these types of pop science things makes me cringe. We live in a four space. I guess we're all multi-durr-mensional. I can't even look at the Big Bang theory. Sheldon is 0% like physics majors. And I should know, I'm one of them!
>>818618
>trying to dock in Elite: Dangerous.webm
>>852558
Do you also have a problem with Terminator? Because Terminator runs on the exact same time loop principle.
>>818572
I just watched this movie because I've been seeing this thread for the past couple weeks.
Holy fuck, what a ride. Thanks, guys.
>>852795
Let us start at the beginning and humor me here, let us remove any assistance from the future, no wormholes, no messages, no alteration of the past - Does all of humanity die if that assistance never occurs?
If the answer to this question is yes, than no future of any kind is possible for them - if the probability of them being able to save themselves is absolute 0. They can not create the initial catalyst by altering the past and saving themselves as they would have been dead.
If the answer is no - then a much better movie with less stupid bullshit could have been made here just by following the process them saving them selfs.
If you want to create a version of events where some humans survive long enough to create a method to alter the past, bootstrap technological advancement to the point of being able to save their race, and then do so - Cool. That at least works as it defines the catalyst. Also it would have made a better movie.
>>852891
It has been years since I saw the original, I don't remember who came through the time machine first.
If skynet got the terminator through first, it wins. The Terminator would have shown up with no opposition as the humans had not sent Kyle through already. The terminator would have killed Sarah with no problem. With Sarah dead, no John. No John means no resistance to send Kyle through to save Sarah and skynet wins. The difference is - Skynet had a method of time travel that it did use.
In interstellar, the humans are dying off, they have no method of time travel and there is no mention of them even possibly being able to create one.
>>852935
>Does all of humanity die if that assistance never occurs?
>If the answer to this question is yes, than no future of any kind is possible for them - if the probability of them being able to save themselves is absolute 0. They can not create the initial catalyst by altering the past and saving themselves as they would have been dead.
You're confused about how timetravel works.
You're handling this as if there's and "initial" timeline were humans die out, which was then changed to an "altered" timeline where they're saved by people from the future. And because everyone dies in the initial timeline, there's no-one left to go back and create the altered timeline.
How can you go back to change the past if you're already dead, right?
But that's why people have been linking you to that damn NSCP page. Because in the timetravel model the movies uses ISN'T the one you're trying to use. The NSCP claims there is only ONE timeline, and it DOESN'T change; it's immutable, because there's no "metatime" for it to change in. Going back in time doesn't modify the past - your actions were always a part of the past.
So in the movie humanity doesn't die out and then get saved. They were always saved, because there's only one history, and it has people from the future saving humanity.
>>852957
Saw this thread, watched the whole movie, came back to this thread. I think I understand what you're saying.
anon A is saying there must be a beginning or an alternate timeline where humanity survives in order to pick up Cooper and build him the bookcase telephone
while you are saying, there doesn't need to be a beginning because that just 'how it always was', right?
>>852957
No, I am saying the whole thing is utter bullshit because they could have never survived in the first place.
I get what you are saying. And you are granting the writer the same reverence as a backwoods zealot christian grants god and the bible.
I am grading his paper like a high school teacher - the motherfucker needs to show his work.
>>852962
His concept of time travel is not incorrect. If you go back in time and make a change, the resulting time line is the only time line. He simply is misunderstanding that my problem is not the concept of time travel, but the movies shit fucking plot. They have jumped over the most important and possibly interesting question of all - what came first, how did all of this begin?
If I go back in time and kill Hitler as a child, then Hitler will have always died as a child, but that does not change the fact that I went back in time and did it. And the most interesting part about it is not that there was no such things as WW2 or that Hitler died as a child, but why I would have done it in the first place.
If they did survive in the first place to create time travel, why did they go back and change things? All the questions that are completely ignored.
>>852962
>while you are saying, there doesn't need to be a beginning because that just 'how it always was', right?
Pretty much. It's a causal loop:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop
Once you have a closed curve in time, you can end up with events occurring that are their own cause, but don't introduce inconsistencies. People have apparently written a fair bit about this:
http://thelifeofpsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Lossev-Novikov-1992.pdf
(And they've given it a pretty cool name too: Jinn)
>anon A is saying there must be a beginning or an alternate timeline where humanity survives in order to pick up Cooper and build him the bookcase telephone
I think that's what their saying.
>>852994
>No, I am saying the whole thing is utter bullshit because they could have never survived in the first place.
There is no "first place" where they had to survive on their own. They survived because they were rescued.
>you are granting the writer the same reverence as a backwoods zealot christian grants god and the bible.
No I'm not.
I'm defending it based on a widely used and discussed model of time travel.
>I am grading his paper like a high school teacher - the motherfucker needs to show his work.
What work? The movie is pretty clear that what's going on is a causal loop - that's kinda the entire plot.
>>853015
>what came first, how did all of this begin?
There is no "came first".
>If they did survive in the first place to create time travel, why did they go back and change things? All the questions that are completely ignored.
They didn't go back to "change things". They went back because they needed to, in order to rescue humanity from the blight (or whatever it was called).
>>853020
Yet again, you miss the point. You are trying to defend the science. I am attacking the premise.
If I wanted to go after the science of the movie I would fixate on the used technologies - propulsion, life support, how that guy fed and maintained himself for years on a space ship and did not go batshit insane, sleep tubes getting dirty in a sealed clean environment. Or moving on from that how about those ice clouds, nice they have enough strength to support their own weight [Kip himself complained about that one]. How about falling into a fast spinning 100million solar mass black hole - I don't even care to consider the problems with this. The movie had hundreds of these, I don't consider them worth mention for the most part [with the exception of millers planet - because fuck that part of the movie]
Allow me to put as fine a point as possible on the "science" in this movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEJjx4YCZU
Have a nice nite.
>>853043
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEJjx4YCZU
Wasn't the point of that scene that she was wrong, anyway?
But yeah, a lot of the more technical stuff in Interstellar is wrong, or at least pretty sketchy. The blight deserves a special mention for that, up there with the ice clouds.
>Have a nice nite.
You too.
>>818572
interstellar
>>853048
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEJjx4YCZU [Embed]
>Wasn't the point of that scene that she was wrong, anyway?
Considering the rest of the movie and especially the end - that is not what I gathered.
What I gathered from the movie was - she was nothing more than a symbolic set piece - and then they ratified "her" "feeling that love is calling her to the planet of her husband" by making that the right choice, thus damning the scientific reasoning that Matt Damon's planet was their best option. AND OF COURSE, the ice planet was a godless, evil, weak sinner's planet with an evil killer scientific mind that will destroy them all with its cold scientific reasoning.
Sorry, I know that last bit will not be the popular viewing of how that was meant to be, but seriously. All throughout the movie I didn't feel like this was a celebration of science so much as a sneak attack on it.
Most absurdly overrated film in history.
>>853554
*ahem*
Twilight.
>>818600
Kill off the likeable guy and keep the annoying passive aggressive looking cunt alive.
Fuck I wish they killed her instead, hate that bitches face.
>>841542
So did I Anon, so did I.
>>848822
So much this
>>857419
I have no clue how anyone could have an emotional attachment, with the exception of disgust, to this fucking train-wreck.
