Is this a good website?
Judging it purely as a website , I think it's rather mediocre. Navigating the side is annoying.
I like the content though.
>>2996142
They could do with a mobile site or app
>>2996130
No. It's corrupt as fuck and their "opinions" are objectively false. They're literal faggots.
>>2996172
Give us the drama rundown, anon
>>2996172
Story time now
>>2996130
There's too much cruft in their articles, and they're written like high school essays. What's the point in typing out several paragraphs of shit that convey only a few tidbits of actual information? That doesn't make you a "good" writer. Your job is to provide an informative (but preferably condensed) run-down of whatever series you're covering, not woe the reader with your mastery of textwalls and purple prose. This is exactly why Wikipedia enforces a Manual of Style.
>>2996172
I'm a literal faggot. Got a problem with that? Go cry about it to your senator.
The quality control for articles is spotty but it's amateur writers trying to make you as familiar with a particular game or series as they are and for no worthwhile reward other than accomplishing that goal. It's got its flaws but I'll take their shittiest article over a video by The Cum Drenched Gamer or the Rabid Turbografx Faggot Dork or whatever. Also that dude that looks like the cowardly lion that youtube keeps telling me to check out with the soulless eyes and the creepy smile, fuck him too.
>>2996172
>their "opinions" are objectively false.
How can an opinion be false?
>>2996679
Well, a lot of the time they just needlessly chastise an otherwise decent game, or do shit like bitching that Valis turned into an ecchi series.
>>2996774
Vallis didn't turn into an ecchi series you retard, the VN's are outright porn. Only the manga that came after can be classified as ecchi.
>>2997370
afaik japs use ecchi interchangeably with porn anyway
>>2996130
I like it, it's got info about games which not many other sites cover.
I like the Game Club 199X podcast, they cover the game but chat and wander onto other topics, it's more like a natural interesting conversation than a strict formulaic review show.
I like it for showing some old arcade games I'd probably ignore or wouldn't give enough attention for not knowing its story like Vanguard, Riot City or I'm Sorry. Also it's nice to see some articles about ZX Spectrum and C64 games. The major complain I see /vr/ doing is about some opinions or SJW something, I only saw something like that in an article about christian FPS, don't remember anything else but that. IMO it's a inoffensive website. Is there any other site with so many articles about retrogames, specially for the forgotten systems?
>>2996130
I like their articles but dear god the site needs a facelift.
>>2996130
Not really.
The website layout is fucking garbage.
The vast majority of their reviews are basically long winded, inane opinions littered with dubious information if not outright false statements on mechanics and history of the media in general, little actual facts or interesting curiosities to the point that Gamefaq actually has better reviews than them when it comes to popular and even not extremely niche titles because at least they actually get to the fucking point instead of wasting paragraphs of text with little actual contents to be found among unnecessary hyperboles and bad phrasing to the point that Stephen King is actually smooth and concise compared to them.
There are a few reviewers worth their salt though, don't get me wrong, some of those really made me play a few games I would have ignored, but still most of the content is laughably low quality, especially considering how lofty they are about their little site.
>>2996679
when an opinion on something is based on factually incorrect knowledge or straight out stupidity.
What this has to do with Hardcore 101 I kinda want to hear about
>>2997479
The whole mandate of HG101 is "exposing hidden gems". That's the nature of the website.
They are almost never "reviews" and more "check this out" articles.
>>2997513
>exposing hidden gems
>They are almost never "reviews" and more "check this out" articles.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/finalfantasy/ff1/ff1-1.htm
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/nes/zelda2.htm
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/metalslug/metalslug.htm
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/gradius/gradius.htm
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/genesis/cvbl.htm
Hmmm, can't get enough of these hidden gems indeed.
>>2997518
Yeah well you need the core games because people fucking love hearing about Metroid for the millionth time.
>>2997518
Yeah, among hundreds of articles you picked less than a dozen about popular franchises. That proves your point exactly how?
>>2997526
>you picked less than a dozen about popular franchises
Sorry if I don't waste my time looking for all the popular games reviews in there when you could do that yourself, and I sincerely doubt articles about Castle of the Winds, Castlevania, Undertale or R-Type count as hidden gems.
Fact is there's little "hardcore" in that website sure, you might find a few games that flew under the radar, but if you want to go real hardcore you have to pray that a few of the reviewers actually do what they're supposed to and dig in game libraries for hardcore games or real forgotten gems and games, not just million copies sellers in Japan.
Almost nobody even bothers doing an article for JP only games unless a patch comes out, and when they do you can be certain they've played for a few hours and then forgot about the game, extra points if they actually can read japanese instead of just bruteforcing through the games.
But if you think they're any better than the majority of game reviewers out there, I don't know what to tell you, I sure would like if they talked about obscure games like Khamrai or Terra Phantastica, I would also like if they actually rewrote and edited a lot of articles with glaring inaccuracies like their SaGa series pages, when you can even clearly see they didn't even bother playing for more than a few hours at best when they say a game with one ending is open ended, let alone pic related.
So no, the site is vastly garbage, use it if you're too lazy to browse through ROM archives, which I admit are rather unappetizing, but the amount of well done reviews and articles is very, very low.
>>2997553
I agree, the quality control is spotty at best. Very little fact checking. It's questionable if the writers actually even finish the game.
There are some good articles, but it's like everything. Theres going to be a lot of shit to sift through, and a lot of the articles that had potential to be good but got snatched up by a poor writer, or a senior contributor or whatever.
They also "require" a fucking huge laundry list of things you must include for a paltry pay out.
I think the "one guy one game" actually hurts the site a lot. I'd like to see multiple people's viewpoints, so I can find someone I jive with and can reference their articles if they're like minded. Instead it has a "dibs" system, and one that heavily favors being "in" and for friends, where they actually disregard their own rules (must submit for a series, not just one game) for their friends to publish an article.
>>2996130
I like them. Sometimes I use their articles to vicariously play games that I just don't have the time or patience to play, so I get the highlights of the experience with a much briefer time investment.
I've noticed that a bunch of recent articles go really annoying with "sexualized content", openly chastising games for it. Despite other articles in the same site doing the opposite and even linking to NSFW content. They got a bit of an identity crisis.
>>2997634
It's just Kalata and Derboo desperate to prove their male ally credentials. Derboo in particular has a deep hateboner for Hideki Kamiya and anything PlatinumGames related.
>>2997641
They should really stop being puritanical and all that bullshit
>Violence is A-OK
>SEX IS EVIL
God, I can't stand these people.
>>2997675
Their 80s Video Game Heroines was the worst. It's mostly just Sam and Kurt looking for sexism in old video games, even in something as innocuous as fucking Girl's Garden.
>>2997675
>They should really stop being puritanical and all that bullshit
>Violence is A-OK
>SEX IS EVIL
>God, I can't stand these people.
I could say the same for gamers in general. I don't mind the existence of hentai games, but whenever we get games like Dragon's Age or Mass Effect with even semi-explicit same-sex (male) options, suddenly it's "Wahhh! Developers are pandering to SJWs!"
Meanwhile a vast majority of (maybe all) hentai games have thinly-veiled excuse plots and objectively shitty gameplay. If it weren't for all the girl-on-girl eyecandy, those games would be lambasted as well.
I couldn't care less how many developers want to churn out hentai games. That's their prerogative. I just don't take complaints like yours very seriously because there's very likely a double-standard behind your criticisms. Either sexual content is okay in video game *in general*, or it's not okay at all. Where do you stand on this?
>>2997698
I don't think people are complaining about erotic content in Bioware games, considering how tame they are
>>2996242
>thinking gays and faggots are the same thing
Get a load of this faggot
>>2997705
Evidently you've never lurked /v/. Dragon Age "Cisquisition" is all they whined about for months straight. "SJW gays and trannies invaden muh gaems!"
>>2997698
While both sides are wrong(and please, please do not just throws us all people who like games into the "Gamer" category) it's not a mistery that Bioware games have been riding a recent trend just to get hip and cool among the casual audience, just make a comparison between old and new bioware games and look for same sex couples, it's a very, very recent trend.
What actually bothers me is that games that did same sex relationships before it was a hip thing to do are pretty much ignored.
Also, I don't really get your criticism on hentai games, but I think you're referring to the ecchi garbage that Compile Heart shits out nowadays, and even in that case you don't know how much opposition those games got, especially stuff like Senran Kagura.
I can only pray both sides kill themselves at some point, one sides is faux progressive leftist shit while the other is hypocritical, passive aggressive fascist shit.
What's wrong with fags'n dykes or titties in my videogames I'll never understand, sure, sex in videogames has always been laughably bad, but if you don't like it don't buy it.
Also, polite sage for not retro, unless you want to bring PC88-98 Eroge in the fray.
>>2997714
Fair enough then. I had to be sure you weren't just another red-pilled /v/irgin who whines about "degeneracy" in Bioware games while jacking off to his collection of PSVita lolicon.
>>2997720
Is that you, Joestar?
>>2997720
Not even the guy you were talking to before anyway.
I just wanted you to know that "gamers" aren't all like /v/ scum, luckily, which is full of hormone laden teenagers and manchildren with too much time on their hands.
>>2997720
>jacking off to his collection of PSVita lolicon.
Jacking off to people who like lolis would be interesting
Does anyone actually take the time to read HG101 articles in-depth?
I just use their site to look at screenshots and skim through gameplay descriptors and console version differences.
>>2997934
The Renegade article was enough to doubt their expertise. How can one self-proclaimed gaming connoisseur suck so much in one of the easiest beat-'em-ups ever made?
For some reason, the articles remind me of EGM,
back during the halcyon years of review mags.
Sure they aren't all good... But for the most part,
they are a little bit informative.
>>2997714
>>2997698
>>2997732
>>2998750
>>/pol/
>>2997698
Are you really trying to compare reaction to things in mainstream games with reaction to niche games that are literally and unapologetically porn?
>>2997698
>I could say the same for gamers in general. I don't mind the existence of hentai games, but whenever we get games like Dragon's Age or Mass Effect with even semi-explicit same-sex (male) options, suddenly it's "Wahhh! Developers are pandering to SJWs!"
Hentai games are marketed, designed and built around the idea of being porn games. Dragon's Age and Mass Effect, on the other hand, were marketed, designed and built as RPGs.
Your analogy is wrong because nobody complains about yaoi/bara games.
And nobody complained about same-sex options in stuff like Fallout, Sims or Jade Empire, becuse it was stuff you personally had to seek, and that was always okay. But in later Bioware game it's clear they're pushing a SJW agenda when it comes to romance options, it's always waved around like it's a great, never-before-seen thing (when games have had this stuff for ages) and it's usually to the detriment of the game because it's literally LET'S STOP SAVING THE WORLD TO HAVE ANAL SEX RIGHT NOW. It's embarassing.
There's a time and place for everything, and demiqueer pansexual trans* relationships at the forefront of fucking "epic" role playing game are honestly out of place.
>>2998772
and besides we don't even know if these kids complaining about gays aren't just falseflagging little trolls
>>2998772
I had specific problems with Jade Empire having played it recently - my character got completely shoehorned into a romance with Dawn Star and the only alternative to not romancing Dawn was to romance the hyper-bitch princess. No middle ground, no "Sorry, I'm not attracted to either one of you" option.
I played Mass Effect straight, as the CO of a ship, and it was fucking ridiculous how often crew members would just pull me aside and say "let's forget about ranks, Captain, I would very much like to discuss my deep feelings for you." It felt like I had to reprimand every crew member for inappropriate conduct and it most definitely got in the way of the game and the story.
>>2997720
>I had to be sure you weren't just another red-pilled /v/irgin who whines about "degeneracy" in Bioware games while jacking off to his collection of PSVita lolicon.
That boogeyman doesn't exist, you're talking about 2 different groups of people.
Please fuck off back to Rebbit and stop pushing your shit on every board.
>>2998758
>>>/tumblr/
>>2997720
You do realize that most people have a sense of time and place in terms of appropriateness of things, right? Just because you've seen a naked person doesn't mean you're now OK with anyone and everyone stripping in public. Just because you like porn doesn't mean you want to see sex-related pandering in all media. I haven't played whatever Bioware game is being discussed, but regardless, my point stands.
>>2998750
Hello /v/, the door is that way.
>>2998772
>and demiqueer pansexual trans* relationships at the forefront of fucking "epic" role playing game are honestly out of place.
That's the problem, if romance was just an option I'd be okay with it, gay romance? No problem, played a lot of games with that, but what's tragically bad is that they really do push it in your face and it's not even well done romance it's just really bad smut in my videogames, I would even kind of appreciate it if it was well done but it isn't.
That said, I stopped buying the games and I don't even download them because only thinking about what I'm going to put my hands on annoys me.
>HG101 thread derailed into yet another discussion about identity politics in games
I want to get off neo-4chan's wild ride.
>>2999828
What else is there to discuss about HG101? Especially since this thread gets repeated a billion times
>>2996774
>not being upset about the fact that some chucklefuck messed with Valis by making a low-quality erotic VN
>>2999874
I would probably be more upset on the low-quality part rather than the sole act of making a pr0n VN.
>>2999862
Specific articles that you liked/disliked, what you enjoy/don't enjoy about the site, the direction of the site, its history, the forum, the people involved, how it compares to other sites...
Anything but another shitflinging contest about whether your avatar should have a dick or not, or tumblrfags complaining about gamers.
>>2999897
Also shit you learned from the articles.
>>2999909
Yeah that also.
While I don't agree with all the opinions of their writers, and I think their articles should focus more on gameplay (personal preference), they're probably one of the most informative and detailed non-specialized sites for games. Shit like version differences, in-depth information about incredibly obscure games that sites like Wikipedia would never touch on, etc.
It's definitely a good resource in that regard. I actually haven't followed the site in a couple years, I should see how it's evolved since then.
>>2999918
>巨尻をバックから好きなだけパンパンできる
I'm sold.
>>2999918
Tifa's ass is currently up for discussion on the forums.
>>2999918
Now this is something that flew under my radar, thanks Anon.
>>2999941
Tifa's ASS, really?
>>2999909
You would probably would learn more from reading Japanese Wikipedia articles than the average HG101 article.
>>2999918
the problem with vallis is that the porn vn's kinda happen to be official
>>3000087
I know, still don't see the big deal when the whole series was virgin otaku fapbait anyway.
>>3000087
Are there any sourced statements from former Telenet staff members regarding Valis X? The Japanese Wikipedia article says the original creators disown the porn reboot, but doesn't mention anything specific about that.
>>3000091
the problem is that the vn's aren't fapbait but blatant /d/ shit with impregnation rape and other disgusting shit
the manga that came after the vn's in comparison is standard ecchi that stays more in line with the original games (as weird as that sounds)
>>2997698
You can't even play 99% of these "hentai games" due to language barrier so I'd shut the fuck up if I were you. You want something truly bad, try that platforming game for the PC-88 where you avoid obstacles while pursuing a woman so you can rape her. IIRC game over is being caught by the police.
>>3000095
that's a good question actually
idk what the original creators thought about their daughter being whored out by her new owners
>>3000098
Yep that's some pretty weird shit.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/226352/b45827b94c/
>>3000107
That horned chick is getting raped hard.
>>2999961
I love you. I'm so glad I'm not alone in being offended by him.
>>2999971
Ass and tits. As an offshoot of the discussion on Tropes vs. Problematic Issues in Nintendo Translations. Interestingly enough, the people bothered most about it aren't women!
>>3000095
>>3000103
I wonder if Sketu-chan talked to any of them...
>>3000123
They made Cham too old looking, that's another reason Valis X sucks.
>>3000168
Can't find the supposed thread, oh well, was wanting to see if there was any popcorn drama going on
>>3000245
Which thread are you talking about?
>>3000249
Whichever the thread that was supposed to be discussing Tifa ass is
>>2996774
>they just needlessly chastise an otherwise decent game
So they should be regular posters on /vr/
>>3000257
>tifa's supposed to be strong built like a brawler!
lel these people are delusional
>>3000257
I hope someone informed them that The Mary Sue is a clickbait site
>>3000319
Every time I check the forums I see that faggot wtih the pink dog avatar and immediately leave.
>>3000330
You mean Polaris? I remember she was whining a lot about the new catgirl character they introduced to Tekken not long ago.
>>3000293
Tifa's supposed to have a big ass and big ol titties for us to jerk off to. I'm pretty sure that was what they were going for.
>>3000298
Sadly nobody there cares. TMS is the syphilis killing the internet.
>>3000319
He's a kid, give him time. Aside from being an alright game, Snake's Revenge has a fantastic soundtrack, the Japs and the haters are missing out.
>>3000343
Are you sure? She's rather right wing, and for one thing she was one of the few people that had a sensible opinion about "representation" in games and shit on that thread.
>>3000319
>Most HG101 forumgoers are pretty naive and ignorant about many things.
I've never been there, but coming from someone on /vr/, that's quite a claim. Half the reason I come here is just to gaze in how absurd a lot of the stuff that's said is.
>HG101 thread
>Slowly shifts into idiots complaining about the forum and other things not related to retro video games
Every fucking time.
The person who keeps making this thread is attempting to turn /vr/ into his dumping ground for shitposting.
>>3000358
If you don't like the threads, don't click on them. If you want a tightly regulated forum where everyone is limited to only talk about what interests you then find another forum or start your own. We're not here to cater to you.
>>3000351
That's why I enjoy these threads so much.
>>3000397
Yup! It's a comedy goldmine that gets refilled on a constant basis.
>>3000351
There was an entire thread not long ago on HG101 where the OP found out for the first time that you could play SFC games on an SNES by destroying the small tabs inside the cartridge tabs and bitched about Nintendo being lazy for that (without realizing why they did it that way in the first place). That was common knowledge among SNES enthusiasts for eons now.
>>3000404
It's also the best place for feedback, lol. Mostly I think it's funny how everyone has a canned "schtick" that is pulled out every time this thread comes up (me included); not that I have a problem with that, it's basically like the same thread is living on but getting updated with new observations/complaints.
>>2997604
oh c'mon anon, you would be much better served watching my lets play youtube channel:
youtube.com/channel/!Q@W#E$R%/whoneedstoplaywhenucanwatchmegamin
>>3000439
It's not just this thread either, it's like that with most threads around here. I like that you can even see individuals show up, the same set of almost dead threads get the same bumps around the same time many days. Or also saying something or starting a certain kind of thread and then watching each of the regulars respond with their own shticks. It's fun.
>>3000459
It's meditative. It's also good because you can sort of figure out who's who because of it.
>>2997698
>sexual content is okay in video game *in general*, or it's not okay at all. Where do you stand on this?
dumb argument
i would not watch a Beherly Hills 91210 with a brendon & brendon couple, but i would defend gay ppl right to produce gay porn.
i couldn't care less about pronvideogames at all, or with any sort of paraphilia.
but i would be disgusted to see a sequel of a game series i enjoy with gayness shoved at my face, and like you said, i just wouldn't buy it, at most i would express somewhere why i was no longer a patron just to add to the statistics perhaps in the next sequel the developers judge it worth to include a no-balls-touching option for that x% of lost patrons.
>>3000481
I've had a lot of fun watching for STG guy to show up and then casually mentioning fighting games in a thread and watching him flip his lid for the thousandth time. Ballet in trolling form.
>>3000496
What would you consider "gayness shoved at your face"? A previously non-gay character retconned? Or even just the inclusion of a new character into a series who's gay?
>>3000498
I remember when shoutime (the arcade PCB collector) came to the HG101 and nitpicked the site's entire Virtua Fighter article and everyone else (from Derboo to Weasel) were giving him shit about it.
>>3000538
You think that's good, try browsing vr with your thumb up your butt!
>>3000576
You mean we're not supposed to by default?
>>3000363
>If you want a tightly regulated forum where everyone is limited to only talk about what interests you
Yes, I would like a board that talks about RETRO VIDEO GAMES and not forum drama from another website. Fuck off, shitposter.
>>3000514
If a character's gayness isn't locked behind dialogue that can only be found with a specific character ability, gamers consider it to be "shoved in your face."
Basically, it has to be absolutely hidden. It can't be part of the character's personality at all.
>>2998772
>nobody complained about same-sex options in stuff like Fallout, Sims or Jade Empire, becuse it was stuff you personally had to seek
>"It's fine if gay people exist in video games, they should just keep it to themselves and never be allowed to mention it unless I outright ask them about it."
Am I understanding you correctly? If so, then how is this *not* bigoted? Nobody's saying the game should force you into a same-sex romance, but why is it a big deal if an NPC is scripted with a specific sexual orientation? Given it's something that comes up naturally during the course of the story, like the character's partner is introduced at some point.
>it's always waved around like it's a great, never-before-seen thing
Because it is new?
People want to see themselves in the games they play. This isn't the case for everybody, but games nonetheless try to market themselves on character designs that their playerbase can identify with. So what if Bioware wants to appeal to a LGBT audience. I don't see you complaining about the myriad of shooters that cast you in the role of unrealistic macho stereotypes. What makes this any different?
>(when games have had this stuff for ages)
No they haven't. There was the occasional hint that a character may be gay or trans, but that usually involves getting shit past the radar. LGBT characters were extensively targeted by censorship in our day. The only examples of openly gay males I can think of are indie-published and weren't subjected to the ESRB's bullshit, and were probably distributed directly through mail-in orders.
>And nobody complained about same-sex options in stuff like Fallout, Sims or Jade Empire
Because /v/ is overrun with underage faggots who probably never played these games to begin with. They also believe Tumbrlinas were rallying for censorship as early as the '80s and '90s, because /v/'s limited scope of politics is influenced by whatever shit they've seen or heard around college campuses.
>>3000635
Except that's not how the world works. Gay culture is a thing in real life.
>>3000620
>Yes, I would like a board that talks about RETRO VIDEO GAMES
Then you sure pick a weird place to spend your free time.
>>3000635
>>3000661
>>3000668
>>3000514
>>3000496FUCKOFF
>>3000668
But not all gay people follow the stereotypical nature that "gay culture" presents them as being.
>>3000692
No one here cares about you. No one is going to discuss anything differently just to cater to you. Get mad and post reaction pictures all you want, you're the one who wastes your time coming to a website you don't even like.
>>3000661
>I don't see you complaining about the myriad of shooters that cast you in the role of unrealistic macho stereotypes.
Do you even lift?
>>3000693
But that doesn't mean that none of them act as the gay culture depicts them. Nor that just because they incorporte certain aspects of gay culture, that's the only aspect that constitutes who they are.
>>3000661
>So what if Bioware wants to appeal to a LGBT audience.
There are certain gamers, many of them older but young ones as well who are used to when the vast majority of games were made for a very niche demographic. There was a time when if you were a "gamer" then most of the games coming out even if they sucked were at least being made to appeal to you.
These days that's just not the case and there are far more types of people being targeted by game designers. There are certain people who are just plain pissed off that games like Undertale and Modern Warfate exist, period. They don't personally like the games so they're mad effort is being put into making them in the first place.
>>3000708
Yup, I agree with all that as well.
I guess one thing we can all be glad about is that there isn't a retrogaming equivalent of "Young Avengers."
>>3000786
I don't get it.
>>3000661
>People want to see themselves in the games they play.
that's only plebs with shit taste. I have yet to see a game starring a 30 year old fat loser
>>3000717
>These days that's just not the case and there are far more types of people being targeted by game designers.
That's funny, I feel variety has only decreased in recent years. The phase of experimenting with difference audiences is over, and now everything is settled, the audience and development scene are much more stable.
>There are certain people who are just plain pissed off that games like Undertale and Modern Warfate exist, period.
You're conflating multiple things here. People didn't like Modern Warfare because it significantly altered the market. It's not just that one game existing, it's the fact that after that everyone wanted that Call of Duty money, so some people feel this led to changes in the market and how games ar designed and sold that made them worse.
The issue with Undertale wasn't the game from what I've seen, it was just the fanbase. Homestuck had a similarly annoying fanbase that made people want to distance themselves from it even if they actually liked it.
As far as LGBT content, it has nothing to do with "gamers who are used to a the majority of games being targeted to them". Tell your average CoD or GTA player who's not really into games that much about the kind of stuff you see in Dragon Age: Inquisition, and they'll find it weird regardless of what effort is being put into making the gane.
Also honestly Bioware often just sucks at this kind of thing. Cortez from ME3 was probably one of the worst gay characters I've ever seen. Dragon Age 2 was pretty bad as well, just in general as a game though.
>>3000802
It's a comic book where gayness is shoved down your throat until it ejaculates.
>>3000825
sounds like the type of comics japan has been makeing for years
I don't really mind gay romance options, might even be fun in ironic way, like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUbLL3J0__o
The only time it felt really tasteless and forced was in borderlands 2 where everyone was slutty for everyone and horny as fuck
If you complain about gay romances being pushed in video games, do you also complain about straight romances being pushed?If not, you're a homophobe, no matter how much you insist you're not
>>3000824
>That's funny, I feel variety has only decreased in recent years.
I think it's the opposite. Certainly there are far more types of gamers having games made for them now than ever before. If the phase of experimenting with different audiences is over, it's because we now have games being made for toddlers, kids, teenagers of various stripes, bored housewives and train commuters. There's almost no one even slightly interested in playing games who doesn't have games being made with them in mind now.
>Tell your average CoD or GTA player who's not really into games that much about the kind of stuff you see in Dragon Age: Inquisition, and they'll find it weird regardless of what effort is being put into making the gane.
I don't really get where you're going with this. I think it's natural that the Bioware and CoD audiences are different.
I should note though, I have a very low opinion of Bioware. I haven't liked a single game they've made.
>>3000853
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>3000853
That does not necessarily follow. Straight romance is the default and its presence does not necessarily justify the inclusion of gay romance, which appeals to a much smaller audience. And this is coming from someone who played games mostly for the implied lesbian romance.
>>3000853
Sorry, I don't identify as a homophobe. Please respect my identity.
>>3000867
"Inclusion" doesn't need to be justified. In some games, it's there, and in others, it's not. I'm not saying that more games need to have it, I'm saying that if it's there, and you bitch about it, you're a homophobe.
>>3000853
I'm not a homophobe I just pretend to be one to trigger self righteous faggots
>>3000878
Disliking gay romance on the games you like does not necessarily imply that you dislike gay people. Maybe you feel disgusted with the physical act and you merely don't want to be exposed to it when playing a game, but you won't necessarily treat a gay person badly. There are more than two choices.
>>3000892
Homos can't get through their minds some simply don't have much of an opinion about them.
I hate gay shit shoved in my face.
I have nothing against gay people, I have gay friends but I just can't stand when it's so blatantly shoved in my face.
Main stream media would have you believe theres something absurd like 30-50% of the population being gay, when it's literally like 10% or less. There is a huge over representation of homosexuals in all media.
It's gotten worse, especially because being gay is "trendy" right now.
>>3000909
Then you're a homophobe, period.
>>3000853
I do. Shoehorned romances, straight or otherwise is fucking bad writing and in BioWare's case, actively hampers elements of gameplay.
But I mean BioWare had people on staff who wanted to impliment a "skip gameplay" feature, they were so proud of their laughably written "romances." Giving someone a +50 affection token is not a romance, it's basically prostitution.
>>3000919
Kill yourself.
>>3000919
>you hate old people romances therefore you hate old people
Flawless logic.
>>3000892
>Maybe you feel disgusted with the physical act and you merely don't want to be exposed to it when playing a game
That would make you homophobic.
>>3000858
>I don't really get where you're going with this.
You were implying that people who don't like some of the stuff in modern Bioware games were just gamers used to being the only audience, now mad because a game doesn't specifically target them.
I'm saying it's just random people reacting to content that doesn't jive with them, whether you think it's justified or not. Bioware tried to give their games broader appeal after Mass Effect, so it's no surprise that dudebros who played Mass Effect 3 or the later Dragon Age games were weirded out by stuff like "Ride The Bull" or how almost everyone in DA2 was bisexual for some reason.
>>3000909
This is one of the funniest posts I've read all day. Homophobes trying to convince themselves they're not homophobes is great. He even threw in "I have gay friends"
>>3000941
Reblog it on tumblr.
>>3000941
Alright then if you're gonna lump me with bigots I guess I can become one. Sure, I'm a homophobe, whatever.
>>3000949
My tumblr is all just hotglue, I don't think my audience would care.
>>3000959
No, you're not dude. Don't worry about these cognitive based SJWs.
>>3000940
There's also the point that writing in inquisition was legitimately BAD
>>3000959
See? Doesn't that feel better?
>>3000941
Why do you care?
>>3000968
now I'm gonna shove that into everyone's faces and if my choice of entertainment doesn't cater specifically to me I'm gonna threat to boycott them.
>>3000941
>>3000937
>>3000919
We Reddit now. Let's just scream "HOMOPHOBE" and "BIGOT" all day to win an imaginary argument.
>>3001012
So what if we're making 4chan more inclusive? You have to accept you're not the main audience to this site anymore. That should only annoy you if you're a homophobe.
Sodomy != homosexuality
>>3001041
>You have to accept you're not the main audience to this site anymore.
If I wasn't, the board would be like reddit with forced usernames and upboats. /pol/ and this thread say otherwise. This board is anonymous so even if you keep yelling about how everyone is a pedonaziphobe, you're not gonna do anything except shit up a bunch of threads needlessly.
>>3001059
you mean you can have buttsex but still be considered straight?
>>3001070
Only if with a female. And it's still disgusting despite being straight.
Talking about other websites is not retro videogames. Report and move on, folks.
>>3001076
that's alright then, also lesbians aren't degenerate either since technically it's masturbation not sex
>>3001082
>>Bitching about talking about a prominent retro gaming website
>>Not bitching about LGBT debate
That's /vr/ for you.
>All this Mass Effect and Dragon Age discussion
>Ctrl+F "not retro"
>one result, unrelated from before any of it started
Where's Not Retro Man when we actually need him?
>>3001141
Watching Thomas the Tank Engine while he lines up his Sonic the Hedgehog toys.
>>2996130
Varying quality due to varying writers and subjects.
It's good for finding some less know titles and I like that at times it tries to archive, catalogue, collect informations and screenshots about games and all their conversions, so one page on MobyGames isn't all we know about some obscure japanese '80s release.
On the other side, sometimes they get more carried on the "review" side or just have plain shitty articles covering some games. I think they also used to be a lot less opinionated.
The two Untold History books are good if you dig into casual conversation and really care about japanese PC exclusives and shit. Also, anyone has a link to the Top 200 Games List? I expect that to be stupid, but I want to read that myself.
>>3000867
>Straight romance is the default and its presence does not necessarily justify the inclusion of gay romance
Yes it does, at least if the character is implied to be some kind of virtual avatar of you, as may be the case in The Sims or any number of computer RPGs. There's no reason not to allow the player additional romance options.
As for characters being canonically scripted one way or another, that's not the issue. Mario's sexual orientation is whatever Nintendo wants it to be, as Mario has predefined traits. MY character's sexual orientation on the other hand should be my choice.
>which appeals to a much smaller audience
Wheelchair ramps appeal to smaller audiences as well. What's your point? We aren't living in a tyranny of the majority.
>>3000349
>He's a kid, give him time. Aside from being an alright game, Snake's Revenge has a fantastic soundtrack, the Japs and the haters are missing out.
I would call him out for parroting Ravi Singh's shit-tier opinions, but I don't want to bring up a week-old reply on someone I barely interact with.
>>3001161
The "not retro" autists only gets triggered when people bring up the PS2 or Xbox anyway.
>>3001185
>Also, anyone has a link to the Top 200 Games List? I expect that to be stupid, but I want to read that myself.
It has Super Meat Boy among the list. Take that as you will.
>>2996130
One of the only good gaming websites.
We don't have a database like the metal-archives.
I have no idea what the latest Vertical Shooters are.
2D got thrown in the trash, just like white people, and western civilization.
Uh, oh, the Jews and JapaJews forgot to kill all of us. Time for Aryan zombie payback.
>>3001218
>There's no reason not to allow the player additional romance options.
If it doesn't fit the game/universe, or the developer doesn't want to or can't spend the resources/effort doing it (doubling the amount of characters you can romance, adding all these options for every game, especially games with full voice-acting), it's not something that should be required. It shouldn't be discouraged, but it shouldn't be something that's expected of every game either.
>Wheelchair ramps appeal to smaller audiences as well.
We're not talking about something that's necessary to function in real life. We're talking about which characters you can kiss in a fictional universe on your monitor. I don't expect every game to have romance options, let alone fringe romance options. I don't expect every game ever to cater to every demographic either.
>>3001491
I had to look up that guy. Quoting other peoples' opinions as your own is in line with the whole young and dumb thing though.
As for the "NOT RETRO" sticklers, it is fun triggering them.
>>3002368
I should do a graph of when people say it, because I'm certain it's a dedicated autist who goes to school.
>>3002372
>I'm mad that people try to self-moderate and stick to the subject of the board instead of saying "FUCK THE RULES" and becoming /v/ 2.0
>anyone who cares about board etiquette is an autist
People like you are why every board goes to shit.
>>3002375
>>Complain about minor things that deviate slightly from their perception of the norm.
>>Complain in exactly the same way each time. No matter the thread. No matter the topic.
>>Complain in regular, almost automated intervals.
Not autistic. Right.
>>3002375
Mate, "self-moderation" means "Hiding and ignoring what you don't like", not "Taking the rules into your own hands".
People like you make boards go to shit. Any further arguing will be reported as trolling.
>>3002380
>"self-moderation" means "Hiding and ignoring what you don't like"
No, it means trying to maintain board standards by encouraging good behavior, and discouraging bad behavior. If someone keeps shitposting and being an obnoxious fuck, you tell them to stop or fuck offlike you think you're doing now. If someone makes good original content, or makes a good thread, you respond to get a good thread going and encourage good threads. If someone breaks the rules in a way that makes the board worse, you tell them to stop. That's self-moderation.
>"Taking the rules into your own hands".
I'm not even one of the people saying "not retro", but since the mods really aren't that active, if someone posts something that's not retro, of course it makes sense for users to say it doesn't belong here.
>>3000969
I don't really "care" I just think bigotry is funny.
>>3002414
Nah that's cool.
>>3002414
as long as you're not threatening or hurting anybody, of course
>>3002426
Meh, humans threatening and hurting each other is old hat. It's never going to stop. Might as well enjoy the humor.
>>3002435
The majority of the "complaining" about homophobia is all trolling. I've been doing a lot of it, all just because it's funny to prod them and watch the guy go on about gay stuff being shoved in his face.
>>3002463
That guy isn't me, but could have been. That you're upset about this is the point of it all. :)
I'm alright with LGBT folks but I still call them faggots or trannies when they're being assholes, so I guess I'm a homophobe. I'm definitely a bigot though.
>>3002472
if you get to know any of them well you'll realize trannies and fags do the same themselves.
>>3002469
>pointing out that someone is being trolled and shits up a thread means you're "upset"
>:)
>>3002479
That's why I do it. Of course, "allies" aren't supposed to, but whatever. Some people look at it as "It's OUR term!"
>>3002489
>Some people look at it as "It's OUR term!"
Yeah the sooner we all get over that the better. When fucking Ru Paul is being given shit about using the word tranny things are getting whack.
>>3002480
I actually went to reddit once. It was like 4chan with names. What the fuck is the point of that?
