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PTCG/O General-- Fates Collide Edition
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New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW (embed) (embed)

You can also check this FAQ:
http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg (embed) (embed)

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
provides an approximation.

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads

>Your Old Cards
No one wants them

OLD
>>26129925

TotT: What's the best FC card you've pulled so far?
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TotT:

Mew

if you've pulled a Mew then you've pulled the best card from FC.
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>>26147589
You just don't understand how variance works.

>it's iften you flip all heads or tales
No, it's exacly as often as it should be, you just remember the times it's all heads/tales more.

>I once played a guy, I flipped 9 tails he flipped 8 heads, none of the other each.
Play enough games of pokemon and it should happen.

Also, you don't think it groups the cards together when you search the deck so that you can easier find what you want?
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I bought the Mega Mawile EX collection because I found it on the street earlier. I don't play the game, but I thought I'd share because I have no friends and stuff.
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>>26147628
>Then you're a fucking idiot since everyone who has played for a long time agrees with me.
Well not that guy apparently.

>Here's a fun stat, if a player has advantage at the start of the round he is much more likely to win the coin toss.
Got any data whatsoever to back that up with?
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>>26147680

that's cool anon. any good pulls?
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Grabbed a Fates Collide elite trainer box today. Managed to pull the Secret Rare Alakazam Ex, Omastar Break, and Carbink Break within the 8 packs included. Not half shabby.
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Tried to post a picture... File size to big.

Pulled
FA M Alakazam EX
FA Alakazam EX
M Altiria EX
Diancie EX
Zygrade EX
Umbreon Ex
Genesect EX
Audino EX
Delphox BREAK
Carbink BREAK
and 1 Mew

How did I do
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My LGS cracked two boxes today. Only one fucking Mew. Yeah we got a lot of worthless full arts and BREAKs, but goddamn why is this Rare so hard to pull.
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>>26147777
Probably the best pulls you could realistically get.
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>go to prerelease on Saturday
>they give me 7 packs
>pull Alakazam SR FA, Altaria FA and M Altaria EX
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Hrmmm does mews ability need the type of energy for the attack or just the number of energy? As in if I want to use an attack that uses can I use my psychic energies???
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>>26147662
Kill yourself shill. Everyone in these threads knows the client is poorly coded and fucking horrible and randomizing anything. You're sucking the dicks of incompetent devs. The consistency of overly bad or good draws are too fucking high. You make me fucking sick defending this cancer. Always the same flaccid arguments you retards spew as well.

>>26147712
Yeah, not being a drooling fucking retard newfag and having played for more than a day. Shit's predictable and happens daily.
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what would be some tournament-viable theme decks that I could buy
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>>26147818
Those are excellent pulls, whats the issue.
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>>26147890
>I'm saying that it's more than just one person reporting that the RNG is a bit skewed

That's because most people are fucking retads that don't understand how variance works or wants to blame something for their losses.

>although the massive blocks of heads/tails that occasionally happens is a bit worrying
Protip: unlikely things can happen

>but the way the RNG generates a new hand is an issue.
Then log hands.
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>>26147879

You might as well quit. That's what any logical person would do.

If they had your opinion and believed it, they would uninstall the game and never play it again. But in a couple of hours you'll be a lot less salty that you topdecked one too many energy and you'll be back to playing the game again. What's your name in game? Maybe I'll face you later!
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>>26147954
If you are talking about real life tournaments, none. They are awful when it comes to competitive games.
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>opponent dc's in the final round of a bo3 in a tournament
>rules say that if you dc that is a loss
>he wants to call a judge on this because he had a blackout
???
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>>26147996
so id just be better off buying individual cards and building my deck around that then
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>>26147879
>Shit's predictable and happens daily.
Let's go into a game right now and I'll let you predict anything you want before it happens. We can bet money on it if you want.
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>>26148015
Yup. Start by buying
>4 VS Seeker
>4 Sycamore
>2 Lysandre
>1-3 Battle Compressor
And then finally, 2 Shaymin EX. Then you're good to start deck building.
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>>26147848
It says "energy required" so I'm assuming same type.
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I'm the guy with the lady friend who somehow wanted to go with him the Facebook prerelease with him this past Saturday. Should I ask her to come to a small barbecue at my place this week? it'd be just me and some other friends. I've never done this kind of shit before.
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>>26148015
Yes. Buying singles is hands down the cheapest way to build a competitive deck for pretty much every tcg in existence.
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>>26148186
Oh so she went to the prerelease with you? Nice.

I mean the only real answer you will get here is "Yes". So go for it friend. Post a picture of her.
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>Go to Gamestop looking for Darkrai box
>They put out Fates Collide
>Yeah, good enough
>Buy four packs
>Pull these

How'd I do?
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>tfw buying Roaring Skies packs with coins and have gotten 2 SR Vs. Seekers, but not even one Shaymin
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>>26148233

really good

we'll see how the prices pan out for the cards of the set but mew may end up being the most valuable card of the set
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>>26148232

what do you mean by real answer?
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>>26148284
You might get meme answers like
>liking 3d

or whatever, but the only answer is yes, why wouldn't you invite her given the information you gave us.
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Is anyone else having problems opening the client on Mac OS? I've let the refresher update three times already, but it just gets stuck on "Unpacking (This may take a few minutes)". If I close out it just resets. :(
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tell me what to change before i fill in the missing pieces. should I replace judge with N?
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>Saturday prerelease
>pull absolutely nothing in the four initial packs
>Barbacle, White Kyurem, Omastar, Exploud
>pilot my goddamn White Kyurem promo pack plus some garbage to first place
>pull M Alakazam and Diancie in my other packs
>go to another store, League Challenge
>borrow a deck because I don't have an Expanded deck built
>it's Blastoise/Keldeo, I can work with this
>get wrecked by a Senior with a Safeguard Sigiliph deck because there are no Hex Maniacs and my Archies were prized (are age divisions normally mixed at low turnout League Challenges?)
>get wrecked by somebody running a Junk Hunt/Delinquent/Puzzle of Time/Garbotoxin/Hammers pile of garbage with Super Rod as its win condition
>win against a Senior playing a Lucario/Landorus deck
holy shit expanded is bullshit
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>>26148042
is there any site in particular that would be a good way of getting these cards?
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Thinking about getting back into the TCG, but hoping to avoid some of the useless bloat. Are there any particular expansions I should go for or avoid? Stopped playing right before XY, and I can recall one of the Plasma expansions was pretty much garbage, is there a similar set this cycle? Same question with regards to tins.
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>>26148559
tcgplayer.com
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>>26148559
TCGPlayer
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>>26148564
if you're just playing the game buy singles. use http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-one/
to pick out a decent starting deck and build around that
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>pokemon forums down
:|
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>>26148612
>buying singles

But that doesn't let me be an autismo and dig into overpriced packaging.
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So I started playing online last night I keep seeing stuff about a free deck code and tried it but got invalid code I assume there is no other way of getting it now right? How often do they have codes like that?
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Just a note, Mega Manectric is broken. You can attach one of the two energy to two pokemon.
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>only opened 2 post legacy NV packs so far
>both have FA cards

Now that is luck.
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>>26148673
Just wanted to clarify, this post is as serious as it is self depreciating.

Been jonesing to buy TCG packs lately, mainly because of the Mythical collection boxes having lured me back in. But obviously, it doesn't make much sense to just keep doubling down on Mythical boxes.

Also, found the Rayquay/Hoopa lunchbox on sale today, and it's a surprisingly nice little set. Obviously it's not trying to compete with the elite boxes, so for what it is -- and for fitting deck boxes nicely -- it's pree coo.
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>>26148776
What about other cards with similar effects like carbink break, virizion-ex, palkia-ex, or blacksmith?
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ToTT: Delphox Break on my 4th booster

finally pulled a Jolteon EX, got it in my girst Darkrai box. Bought a fuckton of cards since it's my birthday, gonna post codes later since I might go biy more cards right now
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Zygarde EX looks like it'd be a lot of fun, can anyone offer any suggestions as far as deck build goes? So far I'm thinking:

Zygarde EX
Regirock EX
Carbink Break
Carbink
Shaymin EX
Korrina
Fighting Stadium
Strong Energy
Wally
Power Memory
Battle Compressor
Max Elixir
Muscle Band/Fighting Fury Belt
VS Seeker
Sycamore
Lysandre
Fighting Energy
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I hate the fact walmart only sold New Generations and that was it.
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>>26148958
Definitely run 3 Zygarde EX. Don't run any Regirock EX, it doesn't make a difference in this meta and is basically Lysandre bait. A 2-2 Carbink line is good. Might as well run a Lucario EX so you don't get ass-pounded by Vespiquen. Maybe a Hawlucha or Landorus.

The rest looks solid. Except Power Memory. Don't run that.
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>>26148970
mine has FC boosters, M-Mawile, Darkrai and FC Trainer Boxes out

all the FC boosters sans 3 were gone when I got there
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>go to TnT to sell some bulk along with some spares
>they're now jewing almost every single non bulk card for 10% of what they're selling it for

Guess I'll wait. Last I checked SR Mane was like 15, now it's 5.
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Is Espeon EX actually good? Only came against it once, and was pretty good because I ran a Mega and I didnt have the spirit link on. But that seems like the extent of its application
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>>26149049
It's hilarious against Mega decks when coupled with Megaphone. Otherwise it's garbo.
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>>26149049
Tech in Jolteon/Archeops. Shit otherwise.
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>>26148600
>>26148607

pokebeach shills are here
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>>26148908

only cards I'd want from that entire set are FA N and FA Terrakion, since he was my home boy when I was starting out on the client
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>>26149104
It's also the best website to buy singles from, cuck.
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>>26148986

Alright, just out of curiosity, what about running a FF Machamp or a BP Garchomp line? Or possibly something to snipe from the bench?
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>>26149104
>pokebeach shills
??
you realize linking tcgplayer is about as vague as linking to ebay.com right?
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>>26149124
>>26149178

I've never even been there. I'm just incredibly mad pokebeach took down their awesome set scan pages in favor of just fucking linking you to that site where everything has no order.
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>>26149163
Running a line would slow the deck down too much, unless you scrapped the Carbink entirely and used Garchomp as your primary accelerator.
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>make it to final round 3 times in a row
>each time is Shaymin + dead hand
>I lose by turn 2 each time

why
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>>26149067
speaking of megaphone, isn't this card really good for any deck? I don't see how it could really be any more benefical for one deck more than another other than the example you just gave. It has like no drawbacks at all.
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>>26149249
Xerosic is better. If you draw it and they have no tools it's a dead card, Xerosic can be brought back with VS Seeker.

It and Super Rod, every time I use them they're in my starting hand over 2/3 of the time and I just end up discarding them. I wouldn't use it much in this client.
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>>26149259
I never had issues like that
you people just seem like salty losers to me
megaphone is a great card against any deck and wins you games against shit like garchomp/garbodor
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>>26149267
And Xerosic is better against anyone who isn't fucking terrible.
>use Megaphone
>they put on another tool
>you're fucked
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anyone want to trade me a head ringer?
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>>26149292
clearly you have not understood how this game works if this is not bait.
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So I have no clue about any sort of new meta, but why is the new Mew card amazing? Is it the ability or the attack? Because I can't imagine 50 HP on a Purple type being amazing under any circumstances.
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>>26149320
Find me a deck in states that uses Megaphone and not Xerosic that isn't Night March, who blows through the deck and uses it for early removal of FFBs or Sashes.

Why are the people in this thread so proud of their fucking stupidity.
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>>26149292
Assuming this isn't bait, you can use Skyla to tutor out your Megaphone whenever you need it, assuming you didn't dead draw it. Xerosic is also a great card, I would include it in any deck that had space for it, but I would also say the same thing about Megaphone. The ability to knock off multiple tools at once is too powerful to pass up.
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>>26149338
the ability I guess
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>>26149338
Its ability. Its HP goes up to 90 with Fighting Fury Belt.
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>>26149357
No good deck runs Skyla.
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>>26149338
it's only really good for night march. it's basic so requires no setup and you don't have to throw out a 30 hp joltik.
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Did anyone pick up their Darkrai yet
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>>26147777
>all these good pulls
>quads
You're a fucking wizard aren't you
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>>26148398
filled all the holes.

good to go?
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How many packs are Legacy staples usually worth? (Junk Arm, Prof. Oak, etc.)
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>>26149436
Tfw the cards dont come out in australia for 2 weeks
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>>26147607
>TotT: What's the best FC card you've pulled so far?

N. My pre-release pulls sucked
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>>26148186
Yes, it's a good excuse for spending more time with her without immediately wanting it to be just the two of you.
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From the last thread, I finally have all my pulls from my fates collide booster case openning. Overall, pretty decent, the only cards I didn't pull were full arts of Genesect and Umbreon
Box 1
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>>26149835
Box 2
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So far in my testing Manectric/Jolteon/Glaceon is stupidly annoying. I've yet to lose to NM not counting a dead start, Glaceon shits on Trev if I can get the Rough Seas out, and with Hex Maniac you can outlast Greninja easily since they can't touch you at all with Glaceon out. I'm running an Archie's Swampert in it as well as a backup attacker and consistent draw support as well. I got 3 Hex Maniacs in a row thanks to this guy one match.
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>>26149857
>>26149835
Box 3
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>>26149875
>>26149857
>>26149835
Box 4
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>>26149891
>>26149875
>>26149857
>>26149835
Box 5
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>>26149909
>>26149891
>>26149875
>>26149857
>>26149835
Box 6
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>>26149867
List? Sounds fun
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>>26149867
Sounds cool, care to post a deck list?
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>>26148002
literally what? why bother wasting your time? unless you're 9 and actually have nothing better to do other than to go to school the next day, that's so fucking strange
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Okay lads, how do I speed this deck up?
I really like Serperior for Standard because it beats Greninja, Toad and Zygarde decks silly. Trevenant, Night March and maybe Vespiquen variants seem problematic though. Speeding the deck up should help in theory, but I don't know what changes to make without hurting the consistency.

4 Snivy
4 Servine
3 Serperior
2 Pineco / Spinarak
2 Forretress / Ariados
2 Shaymin EX

1 Revitalizer
3 Trainers' Mail
2 Level Ball
4 Ultra Ball
4 Super Scoop Up
4 VS Seeker
2 Muscle Band
1 Hex Maniac
1 AZ
1 Lysandre
3 N
4 Professor Sycamore
4 Forest of Giant Plants

9 Grass Energy
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>>26150177
Honestly I'm experimenting with a Barbaracle/Archie build since we play 4 stadiums
I'll let you guys know how it goes
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>>26150177
how does it beat greninja or any of those decks? Sorry I might be looking at the wrong card, the one from Fates Collide?
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>>26149718
wonder if you could swap out 2 psychic energy with 2 more mystery energy and then figure out how to work in 4 assault vest?
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>>26150257
Paralysis from Servine, and even more than that, weakness.
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are any of the fates collides theme decks t1?
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>>26150282
no
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are the servers really shit at night or is it connecting me to australians
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>cards aren't tournament legal for 3 weeks
??
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>>26150531
It's reflecting the IRL rule that's been in effect for literal years now
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>>26150531
Are you new to the TCG? Because I'm pretty sure that's how it's always been

>>26150493
little bit of both
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Got two packs today, pulled a zygarde ex and a hologram lucario in the same pack.
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>>26150177
>>26150266
Honestly, while the point you make about the grass type.
Isn't M Sceptile-EX just a better deck?
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>>26150595
Serperior hits just as hard while not giving your opponent 2 prizes
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Anyone else experiencing abnormal slowness in the game and client? Cards are loading very slow, and "waiting for opponent to load game" taking ages as well.
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SUUPAA ROBOTTO ZIGARUDE KONPURIITO~
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>>26151126
GUNDAM GUNDAM GUNDAM!!!!
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>>26151126
Gee Zygarde-ex, how come your mother lets you have FOUR attacks?
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>want to make a doom desire deck
>would need both broken time space for Servine and Dimension Valley for Mew

the dream is dead
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>>26151130
four?
FOUR?
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>>26151308
Zygarde-Ex please
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Damn I never played standard tournaments cuz op said I would get my ass handed to me, but maybe because I'm not a child, i've gotten to the point on the ladder elo where my shit deck is facing good decks, and tournaments are now easier. I am 2/2 for tournaments with my shitty mega ampharos deck, while I win maybe half the games on the ladder.
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>>26151390
I'm yet to try standard or expanded tournaments, considering I don't do so well on ladder, so I end up going theme.
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>>26151595
Theme is just so frustrating. After about 2 hours playing theme on the ladder, your skill pretty much peaks and you know what the right play is at all times, its just a matter of getting the right cards, which just makes theme matches pure luck. I'd rather lose because my deck is shit, then sit through a theme match, I'm never looking back. 4 Sycamore, 4 VS Seeker is literally the biggest impact on my preformance, once I added those my win rate went up by a lot.
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>>26150531
>>26150544
it's a change with this update to reflect the RL rules. You can still use the new set immediately in Versus & friend games.
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>>26151617
Yeah, theme can be awful with luck of the draw, but it just feels more familiar to me. It just sucks that either you stomp the other theme decks or get stuck playing green and blue for ages.
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>>26150177
go for the quick revitaliser set-up. 2-3 revit, 4 compressor, 4 FoGP, 4 VS seeker, 2 Skyla.

Hope you have a compressor & Vs. turn 1 and you can drop Skyla + two evolutions. Use Skyla to grab the missing part from the FoGP/Rev.
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>>26149436
what kind of no taste loser even likes darkrai that much
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>>26151750
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>>26151748
You think that's ok? It's a bit of a all-in, approach, isn't it?
If the deck had space for a Vespiquen, that would be a nice secondary attacker for the plan you suggested, but I feel like the list is too tight for a Vespiquen and the additional Pokemon you'd need to run for it (Unowns, etc).
I do appreciate the idea though.
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I really like this card.
Dunno how much its worth but i might keep it.
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>>26149436
That Darkrai plush is already sold out everywhere, everyone trying to collect all those Pokemon plushes that come out every month.
And I'm trying to do the same.
But I want that Pokemon rumble figure Darkrai more. That thing is worth $50 bucks.

>>26151750
Darkrai is the only cool pokemon from 4th gen, and it looks like a grim reaper so what's not to like?
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Are the servers down again?
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>>26151923
What's wrong with you?
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Why are aqua balls allowed?
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>>26152001
Because they aren't that good.
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>>26152025
It's basically an ultra ball with no penalty if you're running water only.
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>>26152040
That's not what that card does.
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>>26152044
Well I meant to say dive ball then.
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>>26151829
thats gonna be my first approach later when I get a few ore FC packs anyway. That or some Marowak are the two decks I'm most interested in making.
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>>26152050
Because Water decks, since it was printed over a year ago, are generally terrible, but Greninja is the first good one in a long time.
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>>26152050
In that case, it's allowed because there's not one good water deck.
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>>26151731

I get a feeling that a lot of the games is just dictated by sheer luck on the draw,
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is 4 mew viable in night march? Should I take out vespiquen if I'm using mew?
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>>26152136
Probably
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>>26152136
I don't really know what people see in it, I don't think it's that great. It does nothing for you in the discard pile or alone in the field and with 50 HP his retreat cost won't matter much because he'll still get one-shotted most of the time anyway.

Anyone feel free to explain why I'm wrong though, I don't play NM much.
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>>26152228
Joltik on the bench + Dimensional Valley gives Mew a single energy March. That's pretty much it.
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>>26152130
Main reason Green, Blue and Dark Hammer are better than the other theme decks.
You can actually draw cards or get what you need a lot of the times.
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>>26152238
Don't most NM decks just run 4 DCEs though, with eventual puzzle of time/milotic?
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>tfw you see a trade of someone wanting a virbank city gym for a shaymin ex, and you click as fast as you can laughing about how retarded that guy is
>tfw you realize you just traded for the legandary treasures shaymin
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>>26152255
Yeah, but that's because they lost Mew, now they have it back.
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>>26152263
>not looking at the art first.
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Anybody interested in this? Got it in a booster
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>>26152228
People legitimately don't understand Night March's damage.
Dealing 180 damage takes NINE marchers in the discard, leaving you with three in your deck. Dealing 220 to take down a Mega or FFB EX brings that total to 11, leaving you with a singular Joltik/Pumpkaboo to attack with.
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>>26152290
I'll give you 3 NV packs for it if you include a spirit link to go with it.
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>>26152339
I don't have a spirit link, sorry.
Also just got pic related
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>timed out for no reason
>lose tournament
Simply epic.
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I finally have my beautiful garchimp.
have a code
post pulls if you could.
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>>26151126
MIDORI NO HEBI WA HENSHIN! 100 PERCENTO!!!
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>>26152815

>tfw I instantly read 100 as HYAKU
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>>26152736
Thank you!!
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>>26147607
Is there a free online version of PTCG like Magic: The Gathering had cockatrice? I'd love to play, but no way I'm spending money on physical cards.
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>>26152922
Nothing good.
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>>26152922
TCGOne
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>>26152922
PTCGO is consumer-friendly. A full F2P can get competitive in under a week if they know what they're doing. It's also a surprisingly competent client despite the shitposts, easily blowing official Magic or YGO clients the fuck out.
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>>26152339
heh
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Will the next reward pool also be fairy autism?
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>keep getting greedy when pack challenges show up
>my only electric deck is the theme one from the tutorial
>my only fairy deck is the sylveon theme one I bought on impulse
>my only psychic deck is mental might and NM's pumpkaboo
>most people just concede if I get the pumpkaboo going

the worst part is that those packs are probably going to be some flashfire shit
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>>26153101
>keep getting greedy when pack challenges show up
If you're greedy, why aren't those 60-token quests?
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>>26153010

>It's also a surprisingly competent client despite the shitposts, easily blowing official Magic or YGO clients the fuck out.

I'm quite curious to how bad can those other official clients be if PTCGO really does blow them out despite its myriad of problems
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So I'm normally a yugioh player but I've had my ptcgo account for a while and I've accumulated about 3000 coins from logging on every day and I was thinking of maybe getting into this game now so is there anything specific I should buy or do?
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>>26153010
holy shit they must be fucking abysmal. PCTGO is easily the worst app I continue to use. I'm addicted to this shit but any other app that was this level of continually buggy I just dropped.
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So I get through the first round of a tournament. And the countdown to round 2 gets to zero, and instead of the match even starting, I just move straight to the finals - not even a loading screen or anything? What was this.
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>>26153131
YGOPro/Devpro is buggy as fuck and is aesthetically speaking a dumpster fire. DuelingNetwork, aside from their current legal problems with copyright infringement, is okay, but it's a simulator not a client. So players are still responsible for proper gameplay and any disputes are settled by admins in the middle of the game.
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>>26153131
When trying to make an official PC client for YGO, Konami turned to Miniclip.com and made it in Flash.
They only added in a fraction of cards, you could only duel five times per day unless you paid, and packs cost as much as physical.

Up until recently, the only official Magic client was the Planeswalker series. You could only use pre-built theme decks featuring cards from a random mix of sets. Then they released Magic Origins, which features exactly half the cards from one specific physical pack. In Origins, you can't craft or trade and can only really get one pack a day unless you paid money.

Cardfight Vanguard Online takes Hearthstone's payment model and adds in a fresh dose of shit. It's literally a 1:1 copy of Hearthstone with the exact same values; same gold, same dust cost and ratio, no trading, packs only give 5 cards, etc. The only difference is that the highest rarity of cards cost 10k dust to craft. Ten thousand. For reference, a Legendary in Hearthstone, which is the highest rarity, costs 1600 dust. And I repeat, the amount of dust and gold you get is exactly the same as Hearthstone's.

>>26153205
PTCGO is perfectly fine. The bug list is concise and doesn't really affect a majority of games. This month has has more than a bit of downtime, but every game goes through that. I've been playing since the pack voucher days and I honestly can't complain.
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>>26153244
>the only magic client is origins or planes walkers
you are retarded, the MTGO client has existed for a decade at least.
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>>26153244

>The whole bit about Magic clients

Magic Online is still a thing after almost 14 years, and don't tell me that there are still problems after all those years too.

>Packs only give 5 cards for CFO

That's because the main sets / older Extra Boosters gives you 5 cards / pack, the newer Extra Boosters gives you 7 cards
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Deoxys collectors box with figure:
Amazon- $26.95
Troll and toad- $22.99
That's good and all, but who's less likely to weigh it?
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>>26153294
You're absolutely right, I completely forgot. I'm sorry.

But me forgetting about it doesn't magically make MTGO good. It costs almost as much as physical to play that. People unironically spend hundreds of dollars for virtual decks when they could have spent a few dollars more for a physical copy of it.

>>26153307
>That's because the main sets / older Extra Boosters gives you 5 cards / pack, the newer Extra Boosters gives you 7 cards
I'm more saying that to show how similar it is to Hearthstone despite the stupidly inflated crafting costs.
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>>26153323
>costs as much to play as physical
you are litterally talking things out of your ass
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>>26153349
I haven't played in years, but a quick check through goldfish shows that online cards are 50-75% the price of physical. Am I missing something, or am I not looking hard enough? Is goldfish no longer reliable?
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>>26153382
ltiterally on the same website. stop posting

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/instant-deck-tech-mono-blue-control-modern

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-45-13-tix-standard-insolent-red

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-jund-16746#online
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>>26153427
No need to be so aggressive, my friend. I'm sorry I got the numbers wrong, I haven't played in years like I said.
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Reinstalled twice and it gets stuck here every time
help
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>>26153311
Amazon, especially if it's fulfilled by amazon. Troll and Toad weighs all their shit that isn't booster boxes
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>>26153694
Uninstall life
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>>26150282
Are you mentally challenged?
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>Alakazam-EX still trading for a lot

I just wanna make a mediocre deck to fuck around with him
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Worth it or nah?
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>>26153800
>one of the new set's main cards is still trading for a lot a whole two days after release

geez louise, I wonder why
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>>26153800
Wait a week. SR Mewtwo and Gyarados are both a pack each right now. Alakazam is worse than they are.
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>>26153828
But it's bad
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How does Verses matchmaking work is it based on a hidden rank or progress through the reward ladder or just random?
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>>26153847
Hidden rank

That's how "advantage" is determined as well
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>>26153858
ah okay thanks, I don't suppose if you know if the hidden rank is different for different deck types like theme and expanded etc.?
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>>26153878
I don't know for sure

I feel as though the hidden rank is the same no matter what format you play

I could be wrong about that
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Friend and me want to split a box.
We want to make a deck (just for fun) and play each other while still having some re-sellability (our store buys lots of pokemon cards)
Which box should we go for?
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>>26153901
Thanks for answering my questions.
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>>26153800
It'll die down.
Just like SR Gyarados did.
SR Mewtwo still goes for a bit
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>>26153823
Yeah, you an trade back to make a profit later
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So, how valuable are NV packs?
Are they more or less than RS?
I've seen some really good offers for them.
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>>26154068
More
I think they're worth 2-3 RS each? I could be wrong
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>>26154089
But why?
I get that scarcity has a lot to do with it, but I still don't see why they would be worth THAT much.
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>>26154129
full art N comes in it
as well as the scarcity
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does FC have bad pull rates or does life hate me?
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>>26154178
>full art N comes in it
Oh.
I forgot that was in NV.
I was sure it was a later pack.
Yeah, even after scarcity is gone, it will be worth a lot, even more so now that N is back in standard.
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>>26154200
They are called ultra rare for a reason.
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>>26154129
>>26154178
>>26154201

Don't forget that Ancient Power Archeops and Dynamotor Eelektrik come from it as well.
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So I don't get this. Why are X Ball Mewtwo and Nigh Spear Darkrai not allowed in standard if we got reprints of them in the Battle Arena decks?
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>>26153938
anyone?
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>>26154237
Because they're not reprints.
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>>26154250
Probably just Phantom Forces. Even then the person who pulls the most sycamores, VS seekers or battle compressors is going to have an immediate advantage.
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I just blew £16 on prerelease Fates Collide codes

Despite them being not advertised as Prerelease

I want to die

All I wanted was my zygarde ex
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Is this about right?
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>>26154276
>Despite them being not advertised as Prerelease
Demand a refund
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>>26154237

Because they're not true reprints, the cards themselves are still from NXD and DEX.

For them to be true Standard reprints, they'd have to from an XY series set or a XY series Black Star Promo.
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>>26154237
They're not a proper reprint, if you look at the set icons, they are still from the old sets, not a new "battle arena" set.
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>>26154278
You could try to get more.
Also, go for the new pack since it is worth a lot more for the next week or two.
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>>26154207
Ok, so now that we are looking at a post scarcity value for a lot of packs.
What are going to be the top 5 most valuable?
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>Fates Collide Theme Decks can be used in Theme Deck tournaments despite the new rule.

Hmm, something feels off here...
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>>26154385
Dev team probably didn't think it through, as per usual
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So realistically what should I replace for Mews and Psychic energies in here and how many?
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>>26154068
What set is NV?
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>>26154608

Noble Victories, probably only good for Archeops and Full Art N
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>>26154608
Noble Victories
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>>26154583
>Level Ball
>Float Stone
>Lysandre #2
>only 1 Shaymin
Congratulations, this is the worst NM list I've ever seen.
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>>26154832
I only have 1 Shaymin
The rest I don't see what's wrong with
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>>26154846
Level Ball is unnecessary when you run 4 Ultra Ball.

Float Stone isn't as good as Muscle Band/FFU.

Two Lysandre isn't that controversial but I can see why you could get away with just one if you were needing space.

Get more Shaymin.
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>Theme and Standard tournament removed from the que.

Interesting...
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>>26154889
I would get more Shaymin if I had the packs for it
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>>26154926
Save your packs for Shaymin then. They're better for your deck than Mew is anyway.
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>tfw i have 7 vs seeker but I don't play competitively

any place you'd recommand to sell these? I live in yuropoorland
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>>26155032
https://en.pokemoncardmarket.eu/
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god DAMMIT my only deck is trev break :| i did notice it yesterday sometimes using tree slam when i only had 1 energy attached

how long do you think this will take them to fix?
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>>26154385
Why would it matter in theme deck mode?
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pretty good 2 packs?
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>>26155303
>As of this post we are working on a potential fix. We anticipate May 4 would be the soonest to see the fix live and these cards re-enabled.
better take the week off, family.
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>>26154977
I'm not planning on playing standard at all though, I want to play Legacy
I built Night March for easy tournament wins
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>My opponent manages to play Lysandre six turns in a row to get around my Aegislash
Is this a joke
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>>26155957
kek, that was me. gg

(oh, and it was only five turns, not six)
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>>26155957
>>26156031
VS Seeker is one hell of a card.
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>>26156031
Why the fuck are you running three Lysandre in a Garchomp deck
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>>26156047
Trying out some new stuff. And messing around with Lysandre is always fun :')
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Which set had the best SR cards?
I like the new ones, but the older one were much more shiny-er
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How are the two new theme decks that were added along with fates collide? any good?
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>>26156403
Meh
Lugia one has some hard hitting stuff.
Zygarde one is literally just zygarde.
Both lack a bit on draw though.
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Im glad I only play theme for colour decks I dont have now
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>>26156454
So don't use them in tournament get just for the cards, yes?
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>>26156334
The set with No SR cards
So XY
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Trying to come up with a build for the new Lucario cause his attack is neat but I've only been playing about 2 months so my deck building skills are still trash and I need help.
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>>26156610
forgot image
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>>26156610
>>26156627

Step 1: take deck apart

Step 2: don't even think of building it again

Step 3: build a real deck

Step 4: don't put 4 Target Whistle in it
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>>26156684
I already have Night March and Yveltal/Gallade. Are people not allowed to build fun decks anymore?
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>>26156627
-1 Letter
-4 Shield Energy
-1 Reverse Valley

+2 Steel Energy
+2 AZ
+1 Giovanni's
+1 Shaymin

You can try to be cute by hitting yourself with Parallel City
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>>26156334
>>26156334
Mewtwo is the best SR card set of XY
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Newb here, Is there any deck that's actually viable without shaymin-ex? let me guess - no.
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>>26157144
That's like asking if any deck is viable without Sycamore or VS Seeker
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>>26153715
Alright thanks, have a chance at a code.
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I played pokemon TCG a little when a friend picked it up a little bit ago but it died off and so did my interest in it. I'm just curious to know, though-- are any of the Break evolutions good? I really like the idea of the mechanic but I don't know enough to judge them.
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>>26157144

Greninja Break decks don't necessarily use Shaymin Ex.
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>>26157166
Trevenant, Zoroark, and Greninja all see competitive play. The first two are found in Tier 1 decks, and Greninja is Tier 2.

Carbink has potential to be Tiered.

Noivern, Noctowl, Golduck, and Marowak are rogues. Ho-oh and Crobat might be, too.
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>>26157218
I got excited when you said Greninja was competitive, but then it was the least of the 3. That's still nice to hear though. I'm a big fan of the mechanic. I might try playing again at some point.
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>>26157218

>Zoroark BREAK

I know that the BKT Zoroark is good, but do people really use the BREAK?
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