Ignoring the gen war bullshit, what's your wishlist for these?
What would make these games 10/10 to you?
>>25821168
I want Mega Sceptile's ability to be changed to Protean.
Non realistically speaking
>Atleast 100 new Pokemon
>New region
>Being able to go to Kalos like Johto and Kanto
>A couple but not too many new megas
>Not too many legendaries
>Being able to patch up XYORAS to get all the new mons, megas and/or moves for full compatibility
>Battle Factory
>Hard mode
>A stegosaurus grass starter
>>25821218
>279 New Pokemon are confirmed
>Suddenly we have exactly 1000 Pokemon
100+ New Pokemon.
Tropical Region ( That alone would make it 9/10)
character customization( But a lot more extended then what it was in X Y)
Epic post game, like returning to Kalos
Pokemon following
I don't give a fuck about gen 6.5/7
>New megas for pokemon I care about (Scrafty)
>Return to Kalos and expand on Zygarde story/hinted content like the power plant
>more optional postgame content with things to explore
>large routes with a ton of stuff off the normal path like Sinnoh
>more postgame battle facilities like the Battle Frontier
>character customization returns, expanded
>soaring stays
>old exp share
>>25821275
>>25821250
>Return to Kalos
Do we have to?
>More Memes
>Main Character is Cucked by Rival
That's all I want in terms of how the game should be. Funny stuff and interesting story.
Gen V exp scaling instead of Gen VI's shit.
>>25821307
>More Memes
Sadly, Nintendo of America isn't localizing this game.
A good region, Kalos wasn't interesting to me.
Decent villains and story, I don't expect masterful storytelling from Pokemon but XY's plot sucked ass.
Improved character customization.
Hard mode or difficulty similar to Platinum. Give trainers more than 3 Pokemon.
Rivals who aren't constantly sucking the protag's dick and stopping you every 5 minutes.
Good, expansive postgame.
150+ new Pokemon again.
>new region
>cool new starters
>only one rival
>remove rollar blades and leave us with only running shoes and bike again
>pokemon following trainers added back
>EXP share back to a held item
>when you fly on a pokemon it acts like the eon flute in ORAS
>when you surf on a pokemon it shows what pokemon your surfing on
>all HMs are now TMs, no more HMs
>always be able to change your pokemons nickname
>trainer customization
>AT LEAST 150 new pokemon
>new megas for remaining starter pokemon without megas, including this reigons starters
>new megas for other pokemon too, but not too many
>a few new pre-evolutions for 2 evolutionary lined pokemon ( for example riolu-lucario and magikarp-gyarados )
>hidden grottos return
>ability to travel to other regions, not only kalos
>3 new fossil pokemon
>more pokemon saying their name (like gen 6 pikachu)
>ability to have rematches with gym leaders after already beating them
>pokemon world tournament returns
>new post game super bosses
>make legendaries harder to catch
>DIFFICULTY SETTINGS
>better rewards for completing national pokedex due to so many pokemon existing
You know what would make me rock hard? If there were fewer than 70 new Pokemon in these games. That would be fan-fucking-tastic
>>25821348
Should i keep going?
>>25821348
>>all HMs are now TMs, no more HMs
>>always be able to change your pokemons nickname
>>only one rival
>>remove rollar blades and leave us with only running shoes and bike again
>>a few new pre-evolutions for 2 evolutionary lined pokemon ( for example riolu-lucario and magikarp-gyarados )
>>ability to travel to other regions, not only kalos
Literally none of these will happen anon. It'd be nice to only have one rival again, but Gamefreak seems very insistent on not wasting that gender-swapped main character model. Been that way since Gen 3.
BRING BACK PLAYER CUSTOMIZATION AND CUTE CLOTHING
>>25821348
>more pokemon saying their name (like gen 6 pikachu)
why would you want this
>>25821380
THIS 100000% THIS
and let me be brown again
>>25821363
So 69 new Pokémon? Would that make you rock hard?
>>25821380
>>25821386
>>25821328
>>25821275
>>25821250
>Implying character customization will come back
Two steps back, one step forward. Always.
>>25821168
I just want Gardevoir to get Boomburst.
>>25821412
It's unfortunate, but true. Trainer customization is what people want, which pretty much guarantees it won't come from Game Freak.
>>25821412
>two steps back, one step forward
Back to 2d sprites and megas are removed, but we gain a new HM
>>25821168
Grass is now immune to Fairy
A new middling-damage Fire move is introduced which is learned by every Grass type
Sceptile's Unburden is changed to something else
Mega Sceptile's Lightningrod is changed to anything else
>>25821379
They're not your rival in gen 4 or 5, but you do meet them. Also B2/W2 only had one rival.
100 new Pokemon minimum.
At least 75% good designs
Challenge mode back
Mega Electivire with a big boost to speed and attack, maybe Moxie as his ability unless there's something even better.
>>25821248
Vp would die from rate and compare threads for the next 3 years.
>>25821438
>too shit to make use of based Lightning Rod
kek
player customization
optional following pokemon
radio
new pokemon
diancie and aurous get power gem, mantine gets roost, skuntank gets gunk shot
significant differences between night and day
new pokemon
hawaii
a difficulty setting
>>25821304
its better than kanto was in GSC
>>25821461
>saying that kalos is better than kanto
Kalos was shit, as are your opinions
>Challenge Mode
>Control style like HGSS (Touch Screen completely replaces ABXY Start and Select Buttons)
>Battles never go below 30fps in 3D mode (idgaf about 3D)
>A region that's not a straight line, more similar to Sinnoh (With a Metroid-y design that unlocks new things in old places as you acquire HMs)
>Upgradeable HMs (Like, at a certain point in the game, Cut could upgrade to Slash, and can cut down Bigger Trees)
>Later Gyms beatable in any order, scale levels to your Badge count (No other Level scaling though)
>A Post game that will make me want to train different Pokemon, not just keep my ingame efficiency team.
>Side-quests>Pokemon follow you
>>25821461
that was optional, only based johto was manditory
>>25821440
Oh, and Gen IV did, of course.
>>25821454
Lightningrod is useless for M-Sceptile. Most T-wave users such as Thundurus can't be OHKO'd by any of Sceptile's moves and in return they can obliterate it with HP Ice. Mega Sceptile would have been much better with Contrary, Adaptability, or Protean. You cannot deny this.
>>25821476
kalos has the spooky swamp and routes with fallen leaves and shit. i love the halloween aesthetic in nothern kalos and i hope they expand on that if we return to kalos.Paris Catacombs when?
>>25821493
But we won't return to kalos because it's utter garbage
>>25821503
At least it's better than Unova or Johto.
>>25821168
Two things, and only 1 pertains to the games.
1.) In the anime Ash gets slightly older and sticks with at least Serena
2.)Flygon gets a mega
>>25821168
>New region
>Last gen compatibility
>Battle Frontier sorta thing
>Post game storyline that isn't shit
>Just a decent story for fuck's sake
>Every gym leader past the fourth has a full team of Pokemon, Elite Four included
>An actual rival, not a gang of retards who don't present any form of challenge or character
>Customization overhaul; being able to dye clothing items instead of buying individual items for each color
>More clothing options in general
>No style rating for fucking boutiques
>Better move pools for shitmons
>Megas for the Hitmon-line
>Megas for all region starters and iconic Pokemon in general
>Gen II levels of atmoshpere
>Gen IV levels of music
>Better fucking models
>Old and new EXP Share
>Lead Pokemon tag-along comes back
>Better champion than Cynthia
>2 fossils
>Save files
>Hidden Bases
>DP mining
>Rematches with Gym Leaders
>Non-Linear region
>HM's can be forgotten normally
>Generation specific UI options
>Side Quests
>We actually do something with all the ruins and shit in these games
I am spoiled and I want my shit.
>>25821348
>>a few new pre-evolutions for 2 evolutionary lined pokemon ( for example riolu-lucario and magikarp-gyarados )
>every pokemon should be part of a 3-evolution family
Low Alch yourself.
>>25821490
>it would have been better with broken as fuck abilities
No shit idiot.
>>25821348
>>better rewards for completing national pokedex due to so many pokemon existing
what's wrong with the shiny charm? what more could they give you? shiny hunting is comfy af
>>25821168
Will literally kill me if not included:
>Trainer customization
>Hard mode/difficulty settings of some sort (or just make the game not so unbearably easy)
>A decent postgame
>A decent and consistent frame rate even with 3D on
Long shot but could happen:
>100+ new Pokemon
>Fewer new legendaries introduced
>A few new megas but not too many
I can dream:
>Rival(s) actually an imposing challenge and character instead of a shitty little fuccboi hugbox tutorial faggot
>>25821512
In what universe is kalos better that unova or johto? Both of those reigons are thousands of times better
>>25821540
It's a chore to some. Hell, it's a complete chore just to fill up the damn pokedex in the first place. They should keep the shiny charm and put in more goodies as well.
>>25821454
Sceptile's special attack pool is shit
Even if you get a lightningrod boost it doesn't do anything for him
>>25821540
Yeah its nice, but now enough for collecting over 600 different pokemon
>>25821218
>Being able to patch up XYORAS to get all the new mons, megas and/or moves for full compatibility
Stopped reading there
>>25821486
i wouldn't say it was optional because there were pokemon exclusive to Kanto (new pokemon on top of that) and Kanto's elite 4 which you have to beat to get to Mt. Silver (even MORE new pokemon) and beat Red, which is the true endgame.
>>25821481
I also forgot, Trainer customization, but otherwise, all of that is all I'm hoping for.
>"Are you new to the world of Pokemon, or are you a seasoned trainer?". New = tutorials, seasoned = jump right in.
>Hard difficulty option. Advanced ai, higher level battles, etc.
>An actual Tiger Pokemon. Not Raikou, not Arcanine, an actual fucking Tiger Pokemon.
>A storyline that has nothing to do with the box Pokemon. More in the vein of Collosseum or RBYGSC.
>Egg moves are now tutor moves that are given through special items. Hidden abilities given through ability capsules. Tired of scrapping my pokemon because a new move or ability comes out a gen later
>>25821557
It turns many 2hkos into 1hkos. And the point is it gives immunity to twave and fucks volt switching faggots.
>>25821559
Not*
>>25821523
Oh, and based as fuck legendaries. The more mythological, the better.
>>25821486
>based johto
Johto is the worst region in the franchise, though
Except Sinnoh
>>25821543
i know its "cool" to shit on the newer games, but Kalos actually had interesting routes and landscapes.
>At least 100 new pokemon (not megas)
>Good Starters
>Character Customization returns
>Something to make IV breeding less excruciating
>Good Postgame
>Interesting Villain team
>The ability to do some gyms in any order
>At least one really good Pokemon design that blows me away
>>25821512
Its really not. Johto wascomfyand Unova was really different for Pokemon and it was a nice change.
>>25821565
>Tiger Pokemon
Anon, are we kindred spirits? That's about all I want...besides>>25821523
>>25821543
>Unova
>thousands of times better
I agree that Johto is better, but Unova had the worst designed map to date. Every other region had climates that made sense but Unova just didn't give a fuck where it put its desert and other things.
>>25821554
but what would they give you? another Master Ball? lol
>>25821572
Not shitting on the new games, im shitting on a stupid reigon, and no, no it didn't
These threads are such cancer.
>"good" this
>"not shit" this
What the fuck does that actually mean? Because it sounds like you don't actually know what you want. You might as well say "these games would be 10/10 if everything about them was 10/10." WHAT makes it 10/10?
The only thing that would make this game a 10/10 to me is a complete break of the Pokemon formula like colosseum/XD
I'm sick of rivals
I'm sick of evil teams
I'm sick of these naruto ass plots
I'm sick of gym leaders and elite 4
I want something different. There's so many things you could do for a plot with these instead of just rehashing the same shit
I know this won't happen and I'll still buy the game and like it but it's what would make me love it
>>25821566
It still doesn't change the fact that Sceptile deserved a far better Mega that was OU or Ubers worthy considering we had to wait a whole fucking year for him to get his Mega while Blaziken, who was already overpowered, got his immediately in X and Y.
>>25821585
How about a 50% discount region wide, free pokeballs and premier balls (not great or ultra), and something to speed up egg laying and hatching?
>>25821442
One day.. one day you will beGen 7 OU.
I SWEAR IT.
>>25821612
That could work desu
>>25821628
Did you actually say "desu" or is there still wordfilter bullshit going on?
>>25821559
>>25821554
>>25821348
Literally what exactly? Seriously, what is better than the shiny charm yet not vital to the game so you won't up excluding the 99.9% that never completes the pokedex? Any suggestion? At all?
>>25821591
the thing is everyone plays pokemon differently.
some play for just the main story, they want more of a challenge with the gyms and E4.
some want more postgame, new continents to explore, battle facilities.
some want to collect new pokemon and fill their dexes, so they want more new pokemon.
and some people have shit opinions and thats what makes up most of these threads.
>>25821661
He said a shortened version of the word family
>>25821685
Really senpai?
>>25821612
they already give you the oval charm for completing your nat. dex.
everything else is O-powers, but it'd be cooler if your ideas were added, yes.
>>25821694
Yeah desu
>>25821603
>my pokemon should be broken because this pokemon is broken
Not how it works faggot. Stop with the infantile sour grapes.
Sceptile's mega shot it up 3 tiers. Blaziken's mega is actually worse than his base form. Lightning Rod prevents him from getting crippled and checks momentum. His problem isn't his ability, it's his movepool, and that's easily fixable. Just access to Growth would do wonders.
But my point is stop being a little bitch.
>>25821703
Does anybody ever use O-Powers after the first five minutes of them being a thing? Be honest.
>>25821661
>wordfilter bullshit
Fuck you nigger. That was the best thing that happened to 4chan in 2015. Take your niggerspeak elsewhere.
>>25821722
upvoted
>>25821603
>literally fanboyism:the post
Kill yourself.
>>25821665
>everyone plays pokemon differently
I didn't say they don't. I said they should elaborate on their definition of "good" so that we actually know what they want. But chances are they don't know themselves, which is why they use vague terms like "good."
>>25821722
Oh fuck off. Slang isn't the problem. Degenerates and perverts are the problem.
>>25821248
proof of this?
>>25821713
i'm constantly using the hatching power when breeding, and i use the bargain power when buying medicines and pokeballs. most other o-powers are shit though.
>>25821743
there was a leaked pokedex on hownew.ru and a few other pokemon fansites.
You know what'd be really nice, a better way to grind pokemon than doing the Elite Four over and over.
>>25821743
Check serebii
>>25821712
Why is M-Blaziken worse?
Same ability, better stats. There's no drawbacks.
>at least 100 new pokemon
>a bunch of cool megas that expand on some poke designs
>megas that actually make really shitty but cool pokemon good
>no more HMs, make Traits insteasd (flying pokemon can fly innately, water pokes can surf innately)
>Difficulty settings available on first playthrough, and a harder mode on beating the game
>rich and diverse end-game and post E4 that gives more gameplay
>new cool and interesting poke evolution methods.
>>25821783
>no more HMs
why not make you invincible too
*Expanded TM list to include Gen 1 TMs (So basically +50 TM's... give or take however many TM's don't repeat).
* Tweak some of the abilities, Bulletproof now blocks any attacks from a move boosted by Mega Launcher. Mega Launcher now affects a wider array of moves (beams especially, Hydro Pump).
*Either change some Megas to regular evolutions (the shittier ones, Steelix, Glalie, Houndoom, Aerodactly, Abomasnow).
*Ability to change any non-gym leader battle into a double battle (online battles not included), so long as the NPC has 2 or more pokemon.
*Add a new breeding mechanic that allows you to breed abilities onto other pokemon similar to moves).
*Make Cut not a downgrade from tackle... like fucking anything really. 75% chance to lower attack or defense, make it a different typing, god damn anything.
*Grass is now immune to Fairy, BAM grass types got a decent buff.
*Pokemon specific items are immune to knock-off (still receive double damage).
*Certain items are immune to knock-off (how the fuck do you knock off someones assault vest?
*Charge Beam gets +100% chance to raise special by one stage. Mirroring Power up Punch.
*
>>25821168
>atleast 100 new pokes
>new evos for old Pokemon
>not very many Megas
>new, interesting region
>post game in Kalos
>actually hard rival and other trainers
>evil team that doesn't suck ass
>max of 6-7 new legends
>more customization (more like Pokken)
>more Looker
>>25821781
Can't hold any items and takes up a Mega slot
>>25821799
Fuck I forgot one and this one is a big one. Remove the IV system. Make breeding less tedious.
>>25821348
>Pokemon World Tournament
holy shit yes
If nothing else, Mega Porygon-Z with a Mega Disc instead of "Porygon-Zite". Seriously, it deserves it.
>>25821783
>no more HMs
I want this meme to die.
gym rematches
full team e4
higher level pokemon near end game/in post game (like in the 60's. and not just stupid cave shit)
multiple side quests.
Good megas for shitmons (floatzel, parasect, miltank)
atleast 10 new abilities
a new HM maybe
no more permanent hms
snow
more snow
if theres gonna be a lot of water at least a distibution of water types. depending on what route yours on instead of fucking tentacools everywhere
>>25821816
also a return of the PWT from Black and White 2, it'd be great to see all the past Gen's Gym Leaders, Elite Four and Champions in the games
>>25821820
Oh shit. Of course.
>>25821798
>>25821830
The only move that shouldn't be an HM is Fly, because it has nothing to do with Progression. Any Pokemon able to Participate in Sky Battles should be able to Quick Travel for you.
>>25821838
>snow
I want a whole fucking blizzard area like in Pt.
>>25821168
>Nature capsules.
That's all I want...
>>25821712
All I want is for more people to use Sceptile in VGC so he becomes more popular.
Realistically?
> ~100 new Pokes, though I'll be fine with anything over 80.
> After the obligatory starters, rodent, birb, and electric rodent, for the remaining Pokemon to fill out mostly previously-unused type combinations.
> Megas given mostly to those that need them, with good designs, and cross-gen evos where it makes sense.
> A fucking Poison-type legendary already.
> A strict limit of two rivals, one friendly and one more antagonistic.
> A story that either upturns things somewhat like BW, or plays it safe without attempting to sound too deep, but well-written and entertaining regardless.
> A limit of 5 usable HMs, which are mostly used to access stuff off the beaten path. X & Y did great in this regard.
> Return of older popular features like Amie, Super Training, trainer customization, and maybe Contests.
> A more involved Battle Frontier / Château / whatever.
> An Exp Share that can be toggled to work like it did in 4th Gen games, the 6th Gen games, and off.
> Soaring and maybe it's underwater equivalent.
> A strong post-game that has you traveling all over the region, and that wraps up Kalos's dangling threads somehow. Returning to Kalos itself is a little much to ask for IMO.
> Improved GTS functionality to include filters for nature's, IVs, etc., etc.
>>25821168
Pokemon following you again is the one thing I want back so bad but it'll never happen
Training and battling are awesome and fun but I like stuff that actually bonds you and your team
They need to work a bit on amie and add following and that would be fantastic
Like a menu from interacting with the pkmn that follows you that can either do talk, super train or amie
A GOOD REALLY GREAT NOT MEME TACTICS NOT LEGENDARY ELECTRIC TYPE
THAT'S ALL I WANT
>>25821168
100+ new Pokemon (5+ legendaries in that). No need for megas.
A really nice, natural region (something like Johto) or at least a region with one, good theme.
Characters' depth on par with B/W ones or better.
Amazing soundtrack.
Camera being further away from the player (when compared to 6th gen games).
Pokemon following you.
Postgame with new areas to explore (shit, even going back to Kalos would be great).
More mini-games (Voltorb Flip and Pokeathlon were cool).
>>25821168
Quite simple really.
>+100 new pokemon at least, though the more the better imo.
>some standard evolution line continuation, as well as a few megas, no more than 10 each.
>Larger routes with less linear progression paths.
>more dungeons like caves and forests.
>more secrets. Going out of your way on the route will lead you to cool places, maybe with special patches of grass that certain types of pokemon can only be found in. I love the feeling of finding secrets in previous gens, but it feels like since gen 4 they've shied away from that for some reason.
>Gym leaders with actual personalities and jobs like gen 5 again please, kalos had a shit-teir gen roster.
>Difficulty settings, because really, if you're going to give gym leader and E4 3/4 pokemon respectively, t least give me the option to play something that isn't insultingly easy.
>some degree of postgame that isn't just a reskinned battle tower and gotta catch em all
>yes this includes rematches for major players
>storyline that is a little less in your face
>Hard mode: Side story you have to look for to actually access.
>Very hard mode: A friendly rival and a dick rival, both given ample characterization and strong teams
>Nightmare mode: Game scales levels to you and your badge count, so you can change your progression order up, maybe it's just a fork in the road the loops around and can't go back once you pass a point, but you have the option of going either path to mix up gyms.
>Dante must die mode: Balance changes to pre-existing pokemon, a little more than just +10 in some stat.
>>25821923
I'm fine with the lack of minigames myself, as Amie will probably have enough of them to keep me distracted.
What they did in ORAS was terrible, tho.
120+ New pokemon
Unused type combos
Special Attacking /ice Pseudo
Ice buff
Fairy nerf
Smooth and fast engine with a turn in SuMo taking less time than in gen 3 but also with more spectacle.
Being able to raise IV's
The ability to catch mythical pokemon in game.
A better early game with being able to have freedom as fast as possible.
>>25821168
>post tfw we want all this more or less but we only get gen 1 level of featuresa more back to basics celebrating 20 years
>>25821168
Difficulty and postgame.
>Megas for all starters
>Challenging Gyms, E4 and rival
>World Tournament or Battle Frontier
>GSC esque post game
Don't make anymore Route 1 Flying and Rodent pokemon. Just put Fletchling, Bidoof, Zigzagoon, Poochyena, and Hoothoot on Route 1 and call it a day.
>>25821348
>for example riolu-lucario
Riolu is already a baby Pokémon.
>>25821911
I'll add a few things since I think they're important.
> Toggling tutorials so they can be bypassed completely. That said, I think an optional guide item that can reteach all the fundamentals would be nice for newcomers.
> Keeping exposition to a minimum. This was one of the worst aspects of XY in my opinion. If you're going to have tons of it, at least give me the option to quickly blitz through it.
>>25822026
Can you imagine that if you bypassed all that information it would change it so you're the bad guy due to you not listening to all the info?
>>25821541
>fewer Legendaries
Nigga we already introduced the same amount of Legendaries as Gen 2 as XY, and regarding non-event ones there are less than in Gen 1.
>>25822044
"Goddammit, the only thing I did as Game Freak's summer intern was to write tutorials. And you're telling me you DON'T want tutorials...?"
"...Fuck you. You and all the other entitled man-babies are gonna DROWN in tutorials! DROWN IN THEM!! HA-HA!! BWA-HA-HA-HA-HAAA!!"
>>25821523
>gen iv music
I certainly hope not.
A plot that doesn't revolve around legendary pokemon, Evil team is optional.
More new pokemon than Gen VI.
Being able to return to a previos region ( which one doesn't matter to me.
Any starter pokemon, plus pikachu, can follow you, and this can be toggled on or off. ( I'd say "all pokemon" but it seems like that's asking too much for a game with 3D models )
Return pokemon world tournament.
Upgrade pokebank so that it can hold non key items.
>Battle Frontier
>Return to a previous region
>Following Pokemon
>Pokeathlon
>All the other cool features that were added in one gen then gone in the next
>Exp share that works like it did in previous gens, not the overpowered one from XY
>More well hidden side stuff
>HMs replaced with some kind of key items that are needed to explore (Like a surf board instead of requiring a Pokemon with surf)
>Hidden abilities always pass on when breeding
>Get rid of IVs maybe
>Make it easier to tell a Pokemon's EVs and happiness
>More specific move and ability descriptions (ex: "May freeze the opponent" becomes "10% chance to freeze opponent")
>No event legendaries
>More space in the computer to store more Pokemon
>Ability to view a Pokemon's full summary in the GTS
>>25822165
gen IV music was pretty good, i'd rather them do something more electronic (platinum frontier brain holy shit) than the orchestrated approach they did in gen 6.
>online battles take place in a stadium like the one in Smash Bros and not some boring TRON world.
>online battles allow you to pick remixes of any battle theme from all generations past
>the upbeat remix of the main theme that plays when a gen V gym leader is down to their last pokemon returns
A decent post game. I'm already happy with everything that has to do with multipayer and if it has a decent post game it's a 10/10 for me
>>25822220
No that's a niche opinion. Only gen 4 fags love it. Go figure.
>>25822167
>Return to kanto because Muh 20th anniversary
>bills house has a machine that lets you import your pokemon from RBY
>kanto is actually 20 years in the future from RBY, the house that was being constructed in Vermillion is now complete and all towns are dramatically different.
>key characters are older and some gym leaders are surpassed by their children (janine)
would you want this? what else could be changed to Kanto?
>>25822167
if they reuse the 3d models from Super Mystery Dungeon they can have overworld models for every pokemon except for new ones added since PSMD
>>25822251
my favorite gen is B/W, nice jump to conclusions though.
>>25822245
I want a battle frontier with Emerald's size and Platinum's facilities. I liked PT's facilities better but the whole area felt way too cramped compared to Emerald.
>>25822251
any gen had better music than gen 6, i dont like orchestrated MIDIs.
>>25822326
The most egregious thing about Gen VI's music was the Champion Theme. It wasn't hype at all.
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>>25821218
>being able to patch up XYORAS
Not going to happen. It will never happen, they never updated XY for ORAS Megas. They won't do it for this. Accept it.
>>25822336
It was still better than Iris's theme.
>>25821218
>hard mode
pleeeeaaaaaasseeee
I just want them to do the seme way FE Fates was.
Make Sun easy for casuals and make Moon challenging for veterans.
>>25822348
>This horseshit has less flies than that horseshit
They're both garbage, let's just keep it at that.
>>25822362
>wanting 2 games with 2 different stories so you have to buy both to fully experience it
Fuck off
>>25821348
>>EXP share back to a held item
Fuck off, the new one is too usefuf for ev training.
>>25822378
Seconded
>>25822251
Most Pokemon music is great, gen VI's was pretty mediocre though.
>>25822378
>>25822391
lock it away until post game
>>25822400
Or just don't turn it on you faggot.
>>25822378
Make an option to use it as a hold item or as a key item.
Fuck switch training, the old exp share was way more convenient.
>>25821250
all of this but I want the game to be a home console title, or at least 3d everywhere
>>25822455
>Loses ability to Power EV item + Exp Share whole team
>More convenient
>>25822481
>wanting to overlevel the rest of your team while training a newly caught pokemon
What if each game had half of all pre-existing Pokemon, minus legendaries? That way, you could get every non-legendary Pokemon with just these two games. It would also give a lot more variety to the wild Pokemon in each route and in each game.
Also, I want to be able to copy and paste a Pokemon into the next generation instead of doing a permanent one-way transfer. So let's say gen 8 is Brains and Brawn versions, and I want to send a Pokemon from Sun to Brains. I go to a special location, a copy of my Pokemon is sent forward to Brains, and the one in Sun is given a unique ribbon called the Clone Ribbon or something like that. Pokemon with the Clone ribbon can never be sent forward again, preventing you from getting multiple copies in one game, but because it's not given to the copy that was sent to Brains, I can do the same thing again when gen 9 comes along.
>>25822492
>Caring about the main game being slightly too easy when that stops mattering within two days of a new game coming out while ease of post game training is valued until the next game comes out.
>>25822492
>Overlevel
The hell are you on? We are talking about post game when we are making our online teams, EXP Share is a god send
>>25822532
I know, I was talking about the story.
That's why I said there should be an option to switch between the two different kinds of exp share so you don't have to deal with that shit during the story and can have you easy EV training during postgame.
Can you read?
>>25822254
That sounds really cool actually
>>25821743
he wasn't claiming anything fucking idiot. did you not see the
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>>25822555
>Refers to old Exp share as more convenient than new one
>I respond to that statement
>Acts like I responded to the other thing you said when my response doesn't make sense in that context
>Somehow I am the one who can't read
>>25821218
>A stegosaurus grass starter
you mean meganium?
>>25822416
>What is middle ground
Kill yourself
>challenge mode from start of game
>at least 100 new pokemon
>bigger and better battle frontier.
>electric/fairy legend
>water starter to be a dolphin
>somewhat interesting story. at least gen 5 tier
>>25822616
Meganium is anabsolute piece of shitapotosaurus
>>25822244
I'd be game for randomly choosing from any battle arena in the game. XY and ORAS have so many good battle backgrounds that only show up once and then never again.
There HAS to be a protagonist from a previous game that you can battle.
The question is, who?
>Red
>Ethan
>Brendan
>Lucas
>Hilbert / Nate
>>25822254
I'd love something like this.
>Start in Viridian City, now enormous metropolis
>parents are Blue (gym leader) and some rando
>Celadon is now a sleazy crime den, without Rocket to keep the crooks and gamblers in line
>Lavender town haunted by angry ghosts
>Villain group trying to uncover the secrets hinted at on Cinnabar
>story ends in finding Mew (gets mega of new forme or something)
>Rival isReds daughter
>E4 consisting of Misty, Brock, Will, some rando
>Champion is Koga
>>25822701
It better be fuckin Hilbert. Best designed protagonist desu.
>>25822701
Ethan. And not remake Ethan.
>>25822704
Koga couldn't be champion, but I agree with the rest
I'd love them to go the Gen 5 route again.
To elaborate: I want the games to have actual differences. They tried, for once, with BW
>Different visual aesthetics in game (rural v technological)
>A separate town for each game that's entirely exclusive
>The legendaries represent the other game's themes/aesthetic.
>Lore
>They finally tried to do something when it came to characters and plot.
Gen 6 did the final two fine, but I want something that really has some meaningful differences between the different versions. Not enough to make them separate games, but enough to really make each game unique in and of itself.
I'm fine with anything else. I don't want or expect a ton of new pokemon, and unlike all the negative cunts in this thread, I'm almost certain we'll get character customization back. A harder E4 would be nice.For the love of god please no following pokemon. I seem to be the only one, but I hated that shit
>>25822614
>you misunderstood me
>leads to confusion
>now discussion is fucked due to wording
>>25822724
champion is Giovanni, who has changed his ways
>>25822728
You're the one who didn't understand what statement I was responding to
>>25822735
That could work, but remember the hidden geovani fight in HGSS? Since that happened I don't think he could be champion either
>>25822724
Why not?
>>25822735
This is better though.
>>25822701
Hilbert
>>25822251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbY6kqVPGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbY6kqVPGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cLW0Lckhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYaYEEWkthI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BULBrQJHCsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlOm6-zhgs
>he doesn't think these are great
>>25822717
>>25822790
i also agree with these people. hilbert is amazing design wise
>>25822704
Blue's daughter is Viridian gym leader, Blue is the new Professor, Oak is retired and spends his time in Poke-Hawaii.
>walking into the champion battle
>Blue is there waiting for you
>"heh, its been a long time since i've been here. And look, once again i'm greeted by a very powerful trainer."
>after the battle
>"Wow! i havent had a battle like that in nearly 20 years! the way you treat your pokemon reminds me of an old friend."
>>25822704
>now enormous metropolis
>>25822416
>I can't beat a children's game without a crutch! You're the faggot!
>>25822830
>I want a children's game to be 'hard'
>>25822848
>I'm a child
>>25821523
>>25821569
Side quests to get those legendaries. Only thing I want. None of this, go to a cave and capture Clamatism; the Bivalve That Heralds the Endof Indian elepants.of pokemon mythology.
>>25822393
>>25822326
Who said anything about gen 6? Gen 4 music was unmemorable, and directionless.
>>25822701
Fucking all of them, give us a pokemon stadium like post game where each cup has a theme to it, and one of the cups is all of the protagonists from the past games.
>>25822811
That would give the the biggest nostalgia boner, honestly just reading it gave me goosebumps and made my hyped
- character models that look as good as the x and y models during cutscnes/battles
- orchestrated with real instruments or at least better sounding music
- the camera being behind you and can control it with c stick rather than overhead view
- a story that isn't shit
- good starters/protagonists
- more character customization (hopefully their excuse for not including it in oras "we want each region to have its own unique features and character customization is unique to kalos" is bullshit)
- it'd be cool if the starters were a different triangle than grass/fire/water but it's unlikely and not necessary
>>25822866
gen 6 is the newest gen at the moment so its the easiest to compare to.
gen 4 has a lot more memorable tracks than gen 6 for me, but the games have had a lot longer to soak in, but i wasn't very impressed by gen 6's soundtrack.
>100-150 new pokemon
>10 new megas at most
>good pokemon variety in the routes including older gen mons
>dexnav returns
>pokemon following you returns
>battle frontier
>hard mode
>let us travel back to any region that is NOT kanto or hoenn after the main game, considering kanto has been done and we just got a hoenn game
>>25822872
>implying nostalgia is a good thing
Please kill yourself
>>25822701
Given Gamefreak's constant gen 1 dick sucking. It will always be Red.
>>25822800
This much ass devastation. Pales in comparison to gen 2 and 3 music
![island8-3[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/FdEVfHF.gif "island8-3[1].gif")
I want Event Legendaries to be an in-game add-on again and not handed to you in a Pokemon Center.
They did it right with Victini in B/W, but fucked everything beyond that up.
Maybe when Volcanion gets distributed there'll be something interesting in the Kalos Power Plant, but who knows.
>>25822893
>I want Event Legendaries to be an in-game add-on again and not handed to you in a Pokemon Center.
>They did it right with Victini in B/W, but fucked everything beyond that up.
the unreleased azure flute event was fucking good
>>25822881
I'm not impressed by either. If we're using a generations music as an example for future games, it should be 2 or 3
>>25822893
People dug through the code shortly after the game came out. There's nothing in the power plants.
>Multiple save files
Literally zero chance this happens, but y'know. It'd be nice.
>PC customization
XY was mostly dogshit save for this feature, so it'd be nice to bring it back
>Game difficulty modes
This really wouldn't be hard to do. Tweak movesets/teams/levels. Maybe decrease EXP gained. The first gen of Pokemon gamers are adults, why not let them enjoy the game too?
>Extra move slots for HMs
Something else that's pretty simple IMO, and long overdue. Limit Pokemon to one HM each to encourage team diversity.
>Dump EV/IVs
There is no stupider mechanic in video game history. Emphasize personality quirks if you want statistic diversity.
>Pokemon following brought back
For real, bring it back
>Minigames
Pokemon Stadium style, let's go full party game.
>>25821218
>thinks 100+ new pokemon isn't realistic, presumably because of xy
>also thinks a small number of legendaries isn't realistic, despite xy
I don't understand.
>new region
>non realistic
Oh wait, you're just a retarded gen 6.5 faggot, never mind.
>>25822886
Stay mad faggot, people are always going to like a series best when it was new and fresh instead of rehashed shit, and nothing you can say will change how people feel about your precious Kalos and Unova.
>>25822800
Best Route 1 theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ROWlA_pJQQ
>>25822891
I also like Gen 2 and 3, but don't hate on Gen 4 music when it has so many gems.
>>25822886
holy fuck that comment.
i'm sorry you didnt have any fond memories as a child. you must have had some traumatic experiences to think nostalgia is a bad thiing.
just because genwunners can be annoying doesnt mean gen 1 was bad for its time or that people should be ashamed of being nostalgic for a game they played as a kid.
Hate the player, not the game.
Place your bets on the the amazing feature everyone loves from gen 6 they'll take away for no reason and the returning feature from some other gen that will be brought back.
>>25822923
But I really love unova tho
>>25822940
I have to disagree. There are like 4 good tracks in gen 4. The rest only appeal to a small section of the fan base. The rest don't even remember any of the tracks. Half of those good tracks are slightly different versions of the same song.
>>25822912
>The first gen of Pokemon gamers are adults, why not let them enjoy the game too?
Because they have the sale of many older players confirmed - except for the contrarian types who think everything gamefreak does is shit.
What they, as a company, need to do is get new players to come in, to reach for an entirely new generation of up and coming players to eventually have them reach our status and so on. A series doesn't stay relevant if it panders to an older audience, generally.
>>25822948
dexnav for sure.
trainer customization probably.
friend safari but that was kind of lame anyways.
worst thing they'll remove is horde battles, since it made EV training and shiny hunting much more enjoyable.
>>25822957
Can you tell me what's wrong with the songs I posted, then, since I posted more than 4?
>>25822898
Arceus should be an in-game legend in S/M at level 100 once you complete the post-game and see all the Pokemon.
>>25822948
non-pentagon pokemon won't count towards your national dex completion, making your living pokedex worthless unless you did the extra work already.
>>25822923
>people are always going to like a series best when it was new and fresh instead of rehashed shit
>My life slowly became shit as I got older and now I glorify the past and call out anything new, in order to preserve the only good memories I have
FTFY
>>25822923
Not speaking about Pokémon specifically but rather in general, if two games are essentially the same but the newer one is done better than the first, people should like the newer one better.
It'd be like complaining that Megaman 9 is too similar to the first 8 instead of judging what the game does right.
Besides, if I like something I want to see more of it, full stop. I can't understand people who say they're fans of something but then want to change in large ways even to the extent of changing the genre.
>>25822975
2 are the different versions of the same song first of all. The cherry picked selections aren't representative of gen 4 as a whole which is riddled with syncopation, randomness, and direction less ness. I've heard defenders say it is like jazz and they love jazz. I like jazz but those tracks are just grating and too heady after a while.
>>25822944
>i'm sorry you didnt have any fond memories as a child. you must have had some traumatic experiences to think nostalgia is a bad thiing.
There's certainly a difference between respecting and enjoying old memories, and the way nostalgia works - poisoning one's mind and glorifying the past with rose-colored glasses.
It's not even just about Pokemon. The amount of people I've seen who get wrapped up in their nostalgia and never move forward is disgusting.
Main things I want to see:
>Some decent endgame content. Whether it be gym rematches with better teams, a battle frontier-like area, new areas after the Elite Four, etc. Something that is a step up from how eh Gen 6 was with it. Or hell, a second region would be fun as fuck, or maybe a mini region with its own badges and tournament would be cool.
>Speed up battles. 3D slowed it down way too much.
>Difficulty options like BW2. That way people who want the challenge can get it and the ones who want a more casual experience have that option. Also, no fucking powerhouse pokemon given half way through the game for free like Gen 6.
>Better online options for battles and trading. Mainly the ability to see stats/OT/moveset of Pokemon you are trading for, being able to put more then 1 Pokemon up to trade. Also 6 on 6 random battles with no level cap, and fun stuff like the cups from Yellow (Like level 5 petite cup).
>Maybe a better online feature where you can see other IRL trainers on routes and talk with them and battle, whether it be a bot if you are offline or a battle request.
>Bring back some of the better things, like VS Seeker (it was kind of brought back in ORAS) and Berry Pots.
>Actual Pokemon evolutions and not just doing Megas like in Gen 6. Or revamp the Mega system in general, it is already broken as-is. Or maybe give Megas two abilities to make some of the shittier ones more viable.
>Rebalance the game's stat system instead of giving buffs to older Pokemon. This would give more balance and allow certain Pokemon to be more usable. Power creep is a real issue and needs to be addressed.
>A interesting story. For all its flaws, the story for BW was pretty enjoyable and interesting. I would love to see something on the same lines, or something to shake things up instead of the normal 8 gyms/elite four.
>Speaking of gyms, maybe ditch types and maybe do themes? I am tired of gyms being easy as fuck.
>You can go back to a new region
>"Pardon me, (PLAYER). Due to our guidelines, you may not bring Pokemon you have obtained in this region to the next."
>You get a new starter as soon as you enter the new region at level 5
Yes or no?
>>25823024
Nah.
>>25823008
I didn't realize I posted the first link twice, my bad. To give more examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKZZYNb8YI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x66LAzrR1eA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8AB6VzBsE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC2hh4xqWFQ
Now, I will come out and say that I think Sinnoh has some overall weak battle music, but when it comes to location music I can't get enough of it.
>>25822923
>every game after *insert gen here* that ended my childhood is bad and a rehash
>GF - who I hate - should suck the dick of my favorite gen
>>25823024
No thanks, it may as well be a different game. Though in the sense of getting two games for the price of one it's a nice idea.
>>25823046
>>25823071
I meant going back to an old region post-game, sorry
>>25823090
Nah, I'd rather a Hg/Ss style second region if anything. Fuck having to restart the game part way through.
Harder single player difficulty or difficulty options
Pokemon World Tournament / Battle Frontier
New models/animations for some of the Pokemon if not all (I'm looking at you flying types)
60fps locked even in 3D on the New 3DS
More stat bumps for some of the shittier Pokemon/General balance changes
Character customization
Different wifi battle backgrounds
>>25823007
I agree but I can't stand people taking serious offense to any form of throwback as some kind of evil nostalgia boogeyman. Of course the new games are better. But is reimagining the past and adding modern innovations to it such a bad thing? Is there no middle ground?
>100+ new Pokemon
>20ish new Megas, focusing on gen 5 and 6 who barely have any
>a few cross gen actual evolutions too
>all starters have secondary types (preferably unique)
>HMs no longer required, replaced by key item or non-battle HM move slot or some shit
>story closer to BW than XY
>no group of "friends" like Tierno and company
>region unique from all previous regions with fun exploration
>pokemon following you
>pokemon having more use in the over world somehow
10/10 if even half of these happens
>>25823055
Niche opinion but feel free to have it. I contend that for an entire region, its not a good idea to have all dissonant music. Especially when your target demographic is children and people used to pop music who naturally seek harmony.
Reminder that this game will pander to gen 1 to the extreme since it's the 20th anniversary and I can't wait to lap up the sweet salty tears of those of you who don't want that
What are the chances that Pokemon will follow you again? How hard is it to design 723+ models?
>>25823158
I hope it never returns. I hated it.
Also, with the perspective change and the new camera angles - on top of having more processor-heavy models and shit (as opposed to sprites) it'd be hard to bring back, I think.
>>25823158
Given how much money Pokemon makes and what the budget for these games should be, it shouldn't be hard at all.
Given how lazy GameFreak is, it's not happening.
>>25823158
>>25823211
they'd never do it but it seems like they could just reuse most of the super mystery dungeon models
amie is a good replacement imo
>>25823207
there was really no good reason for you to hate it
contrarianism at its finest
>>25823207
You bring up a really good point. Given how much the franchise rakes in, they should be more ambitious. Somehow they not only avoid the criticism, fans will make excuses for why they can't do x, y, or z.
>>25821168
All I care about is a good enough amount of new Pokemon, interesting characters, and a neat region.
>>25823245
>if you don't like something popular, you're contrarian
>if you don't agree with most of /vp/, you're contrarian
I didn't think it added any kind of bonding aspect at all (amie was much better for that), and I didn't think the overworld sprite models were that nice. On top of that, the whole "only the first pokemon in the party" thing was annoying, and it got boring. It was almost entirely useless, except for those hidden leaves you could find.
>>25823247
Hoo boy
>Given how much the franchise rakes in, they should be more ambitious
>GF tries anything new
>"Why isn't this like my childhood memories!?"
>GF doesn't do much that's new
>"Greedy, lazy jews"
>Somehow they not only avoid the criticism
>Say anything good - or even neutral - on /vp/ about GF
>get called a kissup/fanboy/shill
>>25823286
>I didn't think it added any kind of bonding aspect at all (amie was much better for that), and I didn't think the overworld sprite models were that nice. On top of that, the whole "only the first pokemon in the party" thing was annoying, and it got boring. It was almost entirely useless, except for those hidden leaves you could find.
All of this is still no reason to "hate" it
>>25823286
>>GF tries anything new
>>"Why isn't this like my childhood memories!?"
Tell me when this happened, other than Spritefags whining.
>>25823232
Amie would be fine if using it wasn't a time bomb that will give your Pokémon boosts like passive and make the game even easier if you use it too much. I only get to use it a limited amount in the main game unless I want to save, do Amie, then reset.
>>25823302
But Anon, don't you see? A feature can't simply be a fun little extra. It has to be USEFUL in some way and contribute to something. It can't just be a cute extra because then it's useless.
>>25823318
*like passive Focus Band
>>25821168
I want
>a respectable amount of new Pokemon
>Trainer customization
>Improved PassNav system
>a story on par with B/W/B2/W2 with interesting characters and less juvenile themes
>jam-packed postgame
pic unrelated
>>25823302
>>25823327
I hated it more because it was mandatory, than because of anything having to do with useful/uselessness.
I didn't like it, and then the fact that I had no choice made me hate it.
>>25823318
>not liking getting some small boosts from bonding with your Pokemon, emphasizing how a trainer and Pokemon can get stronger with a strong bond
1) a hard mode with better team comps and AI
2) new crossgen evos, not just megas3)removal of trade evolutions
>>25823286
Dude you're exactly what I'm talking about. I wouldn't be on this board if I didn't love Pokemon but they really need to step it up.
>>25823353
So what makes you think that if they added it back, they couldn't give you the option of not using it. GameFreak isn't THAT lazy... right?
>>25823391
How can I like it when it makes one of the easiest games in the series even easier?
>>25823327
>>25823353
>A feature can't simply be a fun little extra.
>It can't just be a cute extra because then it's useless.
Is this bait?
Being cute is a feature many people value. You're incredibly deep in the minority.
Not to be rude but you both sound like soulless robots. I was constantly talking to my Pokemon, you got to see them become progressively more friendly towards you and at the end of the game I generally felt closer to them.
The Pokemon should follow you (You should have an option to turn this off, obviously) and talking to them should trigger amie. That would be a good compromise, I think.
>>25823405
Options like that tend to be selling points - they don't make those optional.
>>25823417
>You're incredibly deep in the minority.
I never claimed not to be.
>Not to be rude but you both sound like soulless robots. I was constantly talking to my Pokemon, you got to see them become progressively more friendly towards you and at the end of the game I generally felt closer to them.
I totally got that from Aime. That worked well.
Seeing a shitty overhead sprite of my pokemon did nothing for me, bonding-wise. It was a soulless (to use your word) and lazy way of trying to get people to bond. The best you could get out of the thing was a ":D" face.
>>25823417
That first post was obviously satire
>>25823445
>Options like that tend to be selling points - they don't make those optional.
Why not?
>>25821168
>At least 100 pokemon
>New evo's for previous pokemon
>No more than 7 legendaries (Cover Duo, Trio and 2 solo)
>Legendaries are in puzzle/maze areas
>Challenge mode available from beginning
>Challenge mode affecting catch rate
>Old EXP Share
>More side caves/puzzles
>Gym Leaders with more than 3 pokemon and megas
>E4 with 6 pokemon and megas
>Haviing to fight your rival just before the champion
>A rival that actually acts like a rival
>PWT returns
>More horde trainer battles
>Champion more relevant in the plot
>Evil team having their leader at Champion or at least E4 tier level and admins/generals at late game gym leader levels
>Scripted battles where you actually lose to the evil team
>Evil team attacking gym leaders/E4
>Steel/Electric lion/tiger
>Water Dolphin
>No Fire Fighting anything
>3 fossil lines based off a raptor, stegosaur and plesiosaur
>>25823453
>That first post was obviously satire
I sure hope so, but people like that actually exist on this board.
You guys are funny
Difficulty option
Character customization
Pokémon contests 3.0
New megas
Excellent OSTpreferably with lots of trumpets
Attractive character designs, not too over the topA new, NOT turn-based battle system that is only used with the "final boss" and in multiplayer to give the game some actual originality
A villain with an evil plot that is NOT retarded
Actually good story
An anime season without AshMaxie
Iliked that we had less than 100 new pokemon in XY and I hope it continues in a similar vein
I really, really want Pokemon World Tournament to return.
And since this is an autism thread, here are my pipedream wants. On top of all the other ladders from B2/W2, these ones:
>Elite Tournament
Elite Four Members + Champions
>Underground Tournament
Villain Team (Rocket, Galactic, Plasma, etc.) admins + Bosses(Colosseum and Gale of Darkness included)
>Protagonist Tournament
All the playable protags (Maybe rivals too) from the previous games
