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>Extreme Speed
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>>27225745
Cosmic Power.
This would necessitate it acquire a new hidden ability however.
Boomburst
Horn Leech
>>27225745
Morning Sun
Slack off
Rapid Spin
>>27225897
God yes
Head Smash
dragondance
>>27225885
Ninetales should have been retconned to fire/fairy..I mean if fucking Azumarill gets the fairy typing why not a mythical fox with magic powers
>>27225897
Earthquake*
>>27225745
I keep a notepad file like an autist.
>43 Snorlax
slack off (OP)
>272 Ludicolo
teeter dance
>282 Gardevoir
Aura Sphere
>330 Flygon
swords dance/dragon dance, stealth rock
>383 Groudon
heat crash (OP)
>457 Lumineon
quiver dance (It resembles a butterfly, Japanese name is Butterfly Dance)
>598 Ferrothorn
rapid spin, spiky shield (OP)
>695 Heliolisk
Solarbeam, Sunny Day
>699 Aurorus
Power Gem
>711 Gourgeist
Perish Song (Duh)
>718 Zygarde
Dragon Rush (Nice with Coil but it's getting new forms soon anyway so w/e)
>>27225745
>4th head
>>27226066
>>282 Gardevoir
>Aura Sphere
MUH
DICK
>>27226066
Ludicolo gets Teeter Dance as an egg move.
Ice Beam
>>27225858
>Adaptability Boomburst
>>27226127
It's an old list.
>>27226132
Why the hell not. If that idea were pitched to me and I were John Gamefreak, Volcarona would've just got a new move.
>>27226195
>Adaptability Boomburst
Tail Glow
>>27226394
Tail Glow
Shell Smash. Won't improve it immensely enough to be OU, but it's something
>>27226024
Fire/Psychic or Fire/Ghost make more sense than Fairy. Why do people love slapping typing on everything? Its annoying.
>>27225858
>>27226195
>>27226266
Doesn't make sense thematically. If GameFreak were generous, Techno Blast would make more sense with it's association with CD Drives. Would be a better user than Genesect too as Genesect cannot boost it's speed and special attack to compensate for the item loss.
>fly
>>27225808
She needs reliable recovery, not Cosmic Power.
>anything that relies on Focus Miss because of muh coverage
>Aura Sphere
Ice Punch
or Earthquake
or Icicle Crash
or Dragon Dance
Holy shit, does this thing have any moves?
shift gear
>fly
>>27226456
Fire/Fairy would fit a youkai-based pokemon like Ninetales perfectly.
>>27225745
Swords dance.
>>27225808
Agility, trust me on this. No trapping pokemon get speed boosting moves for a reason.
>>27225858
Techno blast is more thematic and only 20 BP lower.
>>27225897
Moves in general would be a better place to start. Earthquake, Crunch (its a gear geddit), Stone edge.
Absolutely agreed on rapid spin though.
>>27226394
Cotton guard and amnesia more likely.
>>27226412
God yes.
Fire Blast
>>27225858
Technoblast
Also if you know your going to die, just fuck it and use Hyper Beam
Crabhammer
quiver dance
>>27225970
into Ubers it goes. Especially it's mega.
>>27226626
>>27225956
>Rock head
>No your only allowed to use Double Edge
For what purpose
Atleast Double Edge has great accuracy though
>>27226778
whho the fuck is he and why is it fucking video so blurry idiot
close combat
>>27226804
>Being this dumb
>>27226066
>>>>>Even thinking that you need to give ferrothorn something
Fuck that
Especially rapid spinning
>>27226818
Spiky Shield at least makes sense themetically (Cacturne and Maractus get it), but yeah, giving Rapid Spin would take away the one thing Forretress has over it
>>27226818
?
The thread's title isn't "improve only shitmons"
>>27226815
That's Staraptor's gimmick
>>27226837
>Being this Autistic
>>27226830
yeah i was actually pretty surprisedbut more relieved than anythingthat it didnt get spiky shield in oras
>>27226865
Superpower it is, then
>>27226550
gg metagame
>>27226874
SHUT UP U FUCKHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>27226910
>>27226919
FUCK U I DO WUT I WANT BITCH!!!!!!!!!
>>27226946
(You)
>>27226590
If its a Fairy candidate then why isn't it on the Fairy egg group like Mawile?
Aqua Jet
>>27226963
YA? WUT U CALL ME 4 NIGGA?
ice type slash
>>27226963
ANSER ME!!!!!!!!
>>27227041
Accurate picture is accurate
>>27227055
STOP IT U ASS
>>27226999
Night slash is good enough
>>27226584
Why are there no useful flying moves? I love using DD Moxie G-dos but cannot pull off a reliable bounce. Annoying as fuck. A secondary typing with no good moves, a 4x weakness, and just ground immunity to show for it.
>>27226999
Nice trips, but it's problems are shit abilities, not movepool
>>27226778
>>27226816
>>27226874
>>27226919
>>27226963
>>27227055
>Falling for such obvious bait
>>27227095
Its like 9:30 here, I have nothing better to do
>>27227095
A tripfag can't bait, but you can bait a tripfag.
>>27226804
Why are spics such shitposters?
>>27226887
high jump kick nigga, it's dex entry mention it kicks things.
>>27226066
>there are some shitters unironically thinking slack off would made snorlax better than now
>>27227083
Considering its strongest ice type move was 75 base power until this gen, on its best offensive typing, it could use some help in the movepool department.
It only got a minor impovement to that with an 85 base power one with 90 accuracy.
Meanwhile niggas are running around with 120 base power STAB Priority flying type, or Adaptability 120 base power fighting moves.
Why is Stone edge only 100
If your going to make it only %80 accurate the least you could do is make the damage 120
>>27227138
are you forgetting about the little move known as "knock off"
>>27227516
Same with Wild Charge
Why bother making a recoil move if it's only 90
>>27227516
Garchomp doesn't need any more damage.
>>27227137
Reliable recovery makes literally any Pokemon better. Especially a bulky tank.
>>27227532
One move doesn't make a good movepool.
Is it really that fucking hard to give an ice type physical attacker a decent ice type attack? Every dark type nowadays is just regulated to only being a dark type thanks to knock off's cancer.
>>27227599
The thing is, Weavile's strength coupled with how good Ice is coverage wise is a good combination on it's own
He also gets the advantage of actually getting Ice STAB
EV's, and boosts already makes him a monster with Ice Punch
>>27227599
>a decent ice type attack
>What is Icicle Crash
>>27227783
>%90 chance of a move that deals 85 damage
Lol fuck no
>>27228166
You mean 127 damage
>Forgetting to factor in STAB
>>27226132
Power gem would be much better
>>27228166
%30 to flinch is pretty good though
If anything, scald should be nerfed to have the same level of accuracy
>>27227077
brave bird is great
Earthquake
>>27228486
It already has Close Combat. Arcanine needs a boosting move outside of Agility and Howl.
>>27228505
Yeah, that's true. I've just always thought it was absurd that Pokemon like Arcanine and Entei couldn't learn earthquake when fucking ALTARIA can
A
FUCKING
CLOUD
>>27228505Dragon Dance
Sheer force Tauros cannot learn Body Slam, just why
>>27225970
Never happening. Not even Gamefreak is that retarded.
Hurricane
>>27226132
a water move might be better
>>27228855
instead of a move, they should just revert Zapdos' HA back to Lightning Rod, as it was supposed to be in Gen V
>>27228817
Maybe next gen.
>>27225745
Slack Off, Morning Sun or Recover.
>>27227083
give it Refrigerate, fix both problems at once.
>>27228855
>STAB 100% accurate Thunder AND Hurricane in rain
There's a reason they didn't give Zapdos Hurricane, it'd dominate VGC
>>27225745
Give it Shell Smash, one turn, and it pretty much beats everything in the OU viability threat list except for Mega Altaria (w/o Ice Beam) and MAYBE Chansey (who's 2HKO'd most of the time and is screwed either way when its Eviolite is Knock'd Off).
>>27229378
>Shell Smash
>This kills the turtle.
>>27228817
>Alright kids I'll tell you a tale of how I used to be king of RBY
>>27226703
Found the sperm.
>>27229378
What about Pikablu?
