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Salandit+air ballon+corrosion= Ubers
Lol this is gonna be ORAS all over again. Show every single new thing before launch to keep up hype only to get to the actual game with absolutely nothing to discover.
>>27013487
>they show 5 route 1 shitmons
>THEYRE SHOWING EVERYTHING
what
>>27013487
>ORAS
were you not there for the XY hype season?
also ORAS was a remake, they didn't have much of anything to show in the first place
>>27013453
>Psychic
>Gliscor
>Stealth Rock
What if it doesnt evolve guys
Lanturn + Soak + Toxic = Ubers
>>27013561
This thing doesn't need to waste a turn on Soak. You dumb shit
>>27013453
Why would that make it Ubers you piece ofdork?
It looks like paper thin defenses, one hit to pop the Ballon, hell, one hit at all, and it's done.
>>27013487
To be fair they did show off most of ORAS almost a decade beforehand.
>>27013487
Y'know, I thought this was just a shit meme, but only 27 Gen 6 pokemon weren't revealed before release, and a good majority of those were evo's/prevo's of pokemon that HAD been shown.
We have 19 Gen 7 mon's so far, we had 21 for Gen 6... hopefully the dex is bigger?
Normally I wouldn't care since I typically look at the leaked dex before playing anyway, but I was actually hoping on going in reeelatively blind this gen. I want a few surprises at least.
>>27013453
OU at most
>>27013453
I don't know why you people like to make big deals out of 4X weaknesses. Air balloon most likely won't even be a set. Even if it was 2 times weak, assuming this thing won't be too bulky, you wouldn't want to stay in anyway. I doubt it will have much of an impact on its effectiveness.
It is gen VII Pseudo-legendary, a colorful one.
3rd evo is Poison/Dragon.
does this sound like a leak?
>>27013861
Poison/Dragon would be boring
>it's a 380 BST shitmon
>>27013487
Holy shit, stop checking the news if you hate spoilers, massive retard
>>27013872
how about a Poison/Dark bandit salamander?
>>27013922
How about it fucking stays Poison Fire?
>>27013913
>stop browsing /vp/ altogether
I mean, thats never a terrible idea but a bit unreasonable dont you think?
>tfw you poison a steel type
>>27013487
ORAS had nothing to discover because it had nothing of interest to begin with
If SM has 100+ new Pokemon like almost all the other new gens did, then the pace of reveals won't be a problem at all
>>27013744
>muh patterns
Well, let's fight fire with fire.
Even generations are small generally less than 100 pokemon.
Odd generations are big, generally more than 13 pokemon.
>>27013525
The game only has 20 new pokemon though so at this rate we'll know everything i the next couple of months
>>27015025
Nah, not so much a pattern, they just seem to have a release schedule for the info they put out and so far SM's has been fairly consistent with XY's. Was just taking note of that, not making any assumptions based on it. Why you gotta be a dick dude?
>>27015123
>release schedule
>pattern
Pick two.
It doesn't change the fact that there's a set number of pokémon and just because they reveal more or less of them I don't see how that would make the game less enjoyable.
>>27013487
If you want things to be a surprise, maybe you could actually have some god damn self control and avoid any and all Pokemon news?
>>27013981
This, what is it with people wanting it to lose its unique typing when it evolves?
>>27015277
right
>implying it won't have a shitty defense and only medicore speed
Also fire and poison is a petty bad combination.
>>27016596
How? It has 8 resistances and 4 weaknesses, the only one of which is significant to the meta being ground.
>>27016596
How the fuck is a bad combination? It's literally heatran 2.0. It has an assload of quad resists. I need you redditors to leave.
>>27013861
>implying an evo would drop fire type instead of expand on it
>>27016596
>Anti-fairy is a bad combination
sub 1000 elo fags everyone
I'd imagine more Heatrans are going to be running Earth Power now.
You people are overrating corrosion.
>>27013595
Shh, don't ruin the circlejerk.
>>27013453
shiny in prison
>>27013487
God shut the fuck up, dumbass
>>27016596
>4 weaknesses
>8 resistances, three being quad resistances
>immune to poison and burn
>stallbreaker ability
>bad
>>27013487
They're showing so much new shit because they decided to add 100+ mons this time.
Last time they had to model every pokemon, now they recycle the old models and have more time and resources for new mons.
I bet we get like 120 new mons,
>>27013908
>It evolves into a 530 BST goodmon
>>27015052
>The game only has 20 new pokemon
Gonna need a source on that one, officer.
It's going to be a shitmon
>>27019531
Being able to poison klefiki in AG is gonna be nice.
>>27014240
>almost all
>>27019614
>Counting megas as new pokemon
>Not counting additions to old lines as new pokemon.
Full retard,
>>27019363
Yeah it's really good
I'm sure it'll be heavily used in whatever tier its BSTs allow it to reside in
>>27019363
If it takes 4x from earthquake it's bad. I doubt it can even take a mud slap.
>>27019723
Remember that time Heatran went to PU because it was 4x weak to Earthquake?
>>27019652
>Counting megas as new pokemon
But he didn't you fucking moron.
>>27019614
What were the 2 "additions to old family in gen 3" again? I'm actually unsure.
>>27019766
Wynaut and Azuril, I believe.
>>27019418
>Last time they had to model every pokemon, now they recycle the old models and have more time and resources for new mons.
No, the models were done years earlier. There were less pokemon because of megas if anything.
>it can evolve
>it keeps its ability
>it gets godly stat distribution and high bst>gets a new priority toxic move
How fucked is Smogon? Give it to me straight doc, is it a 4 inch circumference or 5?
>>27019827
meta will warp to account of it probably, as it usually does until they ban something to make the meta go back to "normal"
>>27019877
*on account of it
fuck me
>>27019827
How fucked? Heal Bell has new prominence, and they can now toxic stall out your steel type. Prepare your anus for the new face of stall.
>>27019785
God no wonder I couldn't guess, such irrelevant mons. Thanks for the confirmation.
>>27019759
I forgot Gen 8 had 89 new non mega pokemon, can you name the last 17?
Immunity Snorlax becomes into God?
>>27013453
>Can poison Steel-types
NO. This is not okay. As a person who runs mono-Steel, I've been very happy with my Toxic-immunity. Thank god I can OHKO it with Earthquake. Pls no Air Balloon.
>>27015052
is this bait? By that logic there's only 1 pokemon left to announce?
>>27020093
>running mono-type teams
the masochism
>>27019894
Both of them are actually pretty important. Wynaut gave Wobbuffet access to Encore and Splash, important moves on it, while Azuril is the proof that transgender pokemon exist.
>>27020125
I like to live dangerously.
>>27013487
>comparing new gen with a remake
>>27020125
Its not exactly masochism when its a good type.
>>27020218
that's a good point, but I'm leery of running mono-anything. When you run mono-type there's always the worry that one or two mons will shred your entire team
>>27019522
I'm assuming the source is "Someone on 4chan said".
>>27020093
>Pls no Air Balloon.
>>27019363
>>immune to poison
Enemy Salandit used Toxic! :^)
>>27020247
I guess it varies on the type itself and how diverse it can actually be with secondary typings, something like mono water can be easy as fuck since most have other types to balance it out.
>>27019901
I worded that poorly, but I actually had a legitimate point. Read the two statements in your first post again:
>Counting megas as new pokemon
>Not counting additions to old lines as new pokemon.
Now look at how both of those groups of Pokémon are indicated in the image and tell me if you see the contradiction. I was referring to your interpretation of the image as saying the cross-gen evos and babies aren't new Pokémon, which means Megas wouldn't be either since they're also included in the "additions to old lines" section. Only one of those statements can be accurate, not both. If you want to bitch about Megas being included in the total count at all then let me revise my post:
>Not counting additions to old lines as new pokemon.
But he did you fucking moron. :^)
>>27020344
>Gen VII: Poison Wars
Gonna name my Salandit Verlis because of its toxic personality
>>27020515
Megas are different than new pokemon.
With new pokemon you can have as many as you want and in any combination, but you are limited to 1 mega per team.
New non megas mean variety, the time put into a mega would be better invested in a new mon.
>>27020601
>Megas are different than new pokemon.
I never said they weren't, learn to fucking read.
>different than
>than
I see your grammar is just as bad as your reading comprehension.
>>27020735
That is correct, you do not use "then" there.
http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/than_then.htm
"The word than introduces a comparison. It is most often seen with comparatives and words like more, less and fewer."
>>27020735
...isn't than correct here?
Then is used for stuff like "This then that happened" while than is for things like "I'd rather have a dog than a cat"
Or I'm a failure, which is also a possibility
>>27020093
Better hope it doesn't fire blast your team to hell.
>>27020810
I'm hoping that it's slower than Excadrill
>Landrous used mud-slap!
>>27019723
so heatran must be really bad right
>>27013453
That pokemon looks badass, holy shit.
This is probably the first new Pokemon design that I have gotten hyped for, ever, and I've been playing since Gen 1.
>>27015025
>Even generations are small generally less than 100 pokemon
No even generation had less than 100 new pokemon until Gen 6
>>27020778
>>27020805
"Different" is not a comparative adjective. The correct phrase is "different from".
>>27020929
Heatran has a 600BST and modest bulk.
Balloon helps alleviate this weakness too.
This will have a 530 BST max if it evolves, those 70 points can make or break a mon.
>>27015269
>dont use /vp/
>people post them on /v/ because they're too stupid to use /vp/
>still see them
>>27020962
That's a cool but of info, thanks anon. I looked it up and one thing I read says that "different than" is still accepted (moreso in american english than british english) but cool information nonetheless.
>>27020515
Gen 6 had a grand total of 72 new mons. None of the new mons in Gen 6 were crossgen/preevos. That graph says 68 with 20+ additions to old mons.
>>27020601
>Megas are different than new pokemon
>>27020778
>That is correct, you do not use "then" there.
You still can't use "than"
>>27020805
>Then is used for stuff like "This then that happened" while than is for things like "I'd rather have a dog than a cat"
"than" denotes comparison or choice if paired with "rather". But for different, you have to say "different from"
If you're not using "rather", you can't use "than". You have to say, "I prefer this to that" NOT "I prefer this than that". You have to have a comparative word like "bigger than" "better than" "fewer than"
>>27019363
>stallbreaker ability
It's another case of an anti-stall mon being really good in stall teams too. Good luck poisoning the enemy mega sableye too.
>>27019827
Why do people act like these things are gonna kill smogon?
Seriously, I remember when people said the goddamn Wonder Launcher was gonna kill smogon.
>>27013453
being able to poison steel types is a good start.
I'll hold off judgment until I see that you can actually sludge bomb/poison jab steel types. now that would be the most worthwhile.
>>27021095
Because when Smogon starts banning everything, it will end.
>>27021158
Are you implying that Smogon will ban all these mons because they "threaten stall?"
>>27021095
>people thought megas were going to kill smogon
>people thought amie was going to kill smogon
>people thought wonder launcher was going to kill smogon
>people thought pentagon was going to kill smogon
>people thought the motherfucking sinnoh underground was going to kill smogon, i shit you fucking not
>people thought team preview was going to kill smogon
We play this song and dance every gen you little faggots.
![250px-472Gliscor[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/d9lnhUa.png "250px-472Gliscor[1].png")
>ubers
lol
>>27021053
>this thing would poison itself by toxicing a magic bounce user
>>27019363
>skuntank / toxicroak / heliolisk 2nd and final stage tier shitmon with being lucky enough if graced by 2 stats over 100
>most likely frail stats
>in this scald / quake / priority / sneaky pebbles metagame
>>27021095
>Wonder Launcher
Whoa what the fuck, I literally forgot all about this.
>>27021181
>killing something that is already dead
nice bait
>>27021012
filters dumbass
>>27013453
It looks so fucking smug and cute, welcome to the team
>>27016897
>Rock and Water not significant
>>27020964
530 BST allows for 3 stars to be base 100, 2 to be base 60 and one to be base 110. Seems like you could make a pretty solid mon out of that.
4x resist Fairy, Grass, Bug.
2x resist Poison, Fighting, Fire, Ice, Steel.
4x weak Ground
2x weak Water, Rock, Psychic
Holy shit this is the perfect buddy for Hydreigon.
Hydreigon is 4x weak to Fairy (covered 4x) and 2x weak to Bug (covered 4x), Ice and Fighting (both covered 2x). Only the Dragon weakness isn't covered.
And then Hydreigon is immune to Ground and Psychic, and resistant to Water.
>>27019306
EXCELLENT
>>27022098
So a Steel-type would round it off very nicely, and we have plenty of those. If we somehow got Mega Hydreigon this gen it would be wicked.
>>27020126
Splash Wobuffet is uber man
>>27013744
The 'dex' will be the same size
These are the same generation, and thus this is 'rounding out' XY's seemingly lackluster dex. Together they make an adequate amount of Pokemon.
>>27015025
Not a pattern you shithead, but I do think that the even/odd thing isn't as important as looking at how much development time GF had to work with for each game.
They were rushed as hell for XY, I don't see how a game rushed to fit the 20th anniversary benchmark will be any better.
>>27016596
Fire complements Poison's offensive weaknesses really well, and 4x resistance to Fairy is godly.
>>27019363
People are kinda hyping up the 'stallbreaker' thing a bit much, don't you think? What Poison types are prominent at stalling in this current meta? And it's retarded to use Toxic on a steel type when the Fire typing lets you heavily damage them anyway.
It can still be Taunted and will need good offenses more than this ability to counter the big stall threats. I see this thing as being more Heliotile-tier, theoretically good abilities, but not a high enough BST/good distribution to allow it to succeed.
