the opposite of pokebros.
Post Pokemon that let you down and dissapointed you.
>>26601993
I'm using one in a Platinum rerun. It's so slow, but I'm too late in game to change it for something else.
>>26601993
Chimecho.
I used it in a Pearl run, where I wanted to use things I liked but had never used before.
Empoleon/ Staraptor/ Sudowoodo/ Mismagius/ Carnivine/ Chimecho.
It was completely outclassed by Mismagius. It's forced baby stage was way more obnoxious than Bonsly's to train. And did less that "My only good move is Powerwhip" Carnivine
I was expecting some low performers in that team. But it was the only one to disappoint.
>decided to give flareon a chance despite many saying it's crap bw2
>Almost literally dead weight most of the time
>too slow and fragile
>dies before attacking most of the time
I wanted to like it...I really did but good lord it's stats distribution just doesn't work.
>>26602113
This.
Tried to use it in W2, and I hated it.
First time playing a gen 4 game, I used this thing because I thought the evolution line looked cool. Over time, it started lagging behind the team. With the lack of physical electric moves in Gen 4, it was not able to do as well as I hoped for. It's the first mon on my original team that I had to box and replace.
Its dex entries are so cool and it looks awesome and mysterious.
But it's... not very good, is it? I guess it had Magic Guard, screens and roost but it just didn't pull its weight. One of the few mons that I was bent on putting in my team that didn't see a single gym battle.
>>26601993
Used on in X because I love its design, ended up barely using it since I had to swich out against almost everything because they could ohko me.
>>26603106
I never had a problem with it. All you needed was Spark -- it's in-game after all.
As for mine, I can't really think of any.
>>26603157
I was in the exact same boat at you anon.
>Everything outspeeds you
>Everything can OHKO you
They really dropped the ball with Aurorus, especially since Tyrantrum is way more usable.
>>26603144
Fucking forgot the picture like a hero
>>26603106
>thunder fang
>needing any other move
>>26603157
>ice/rock
This thing was doomed instantly especially with that speed
>>26603157
This, I couldn't even get Amaura to evolve into this because it got OHKO'd every time it fought. Had to box the piece of shit.
Generation 5. Just the whole generation, minus Haxorus; that was the only pokemon from that generation that was truely good.
>>26603266
Shit taste, genwunner.
>>26603266
>chandelure
>not good
Jesus christ I never knew someone could be such a shitter
>>26603266
Nice bait. If only it wasn't so redundant on /vp/.
>>26603329
inb4 people sperg out because of Undertale.
I don't even hate it's design but holy fuck does this thing suck ass in battles. In RSE it doesn't learn a grass move stronger than 20 BP almost until level 30, so the battles drag on and on. Then you get the long awaited Leaf Blade and you realize it only has as much power as Hidden Power Grass, so it hits with a force of a wet paperbag. I tried using it competitively multiple times but it just doesnt work, even with the Mega. The Dragon typing hurts more than it helps and Lightningrod is a retarded ability choice. Lesson to learn - fast offensive grass type is a bad idea.
This thing. Given how good it is inPU, I was expecting something at least usable, but its level up movepool is utter ass and it doesn't have any good early game TMs. It only learns 4 moves with more than 40 bp naturally, one of which is a heart scale move. I couldn't even justify keeping it around until Pastoria to get it either.
>>26603227
This oh my god this thing is so fucking bad. It either needed more defense or a massive increase in hp. Shame because it looks amazing
Absolute shitty design I expected better from Fennekin
>>26603372
>not surviving off brick break, waterfall/aqua tail, crunch, aqua jet/ice punch/ice fang.
You're doing it wrong!
>>26603384
The whole fennekin line was disappointing, t h b, it could have been an improved ninetales, but it became furry bait.
This piece of crap.
Too slow to defend itself from anything with EQ and a Fighting move. I had to drop this jobber in platinum right after Cyrus almost rekt me and then i raised a vaporeon who destroyed the E4 almost by itself.
Definitively the worst of the water starters.
>>26603427
People would still complain if it became another ninetales, saying shit like "it just gets bigger", delphox is fine as it is, it just need a better ability and movepool.
>>26603416
>brick break
Need surf for it, dropped it a long time before that
>waterfall
pfft
>aqua tail
Didn't learn it by level up in gen 4, and even in gen 6, it's at a prohibitively high level
>crunch
Oh good, a non-STAB 80 bp move on a mediocre attacking type. At least it learns it kinda early, but it's the only viable move it has
>aqua jet
Sure priority is nice, but you need something ingame that has a little more power in its STAB attack.
>ice fang/ice punch
needed to get to Pastoria, which again, I couldn't do. It was way too fragile.
Fast and fragile Pokemon live and die by their STAB moves.Floatzel's biggest problem is its lack of a good one until absurdly late in the game. Other things on my team had at least somewhat powerful moves, most of which in the same type coverage that Floatzel had. It struggled to tickle anything and got two or three shot by most stuff back. It was a wonder I even evolved Buizel, given I was trying to scratch things with water gun and swift.
>>26603481
>Delphox is fine
ether you a furry, or you're blind.
>>26603479
>too slow to defend itself against its weaknesses
empoleon had a shitload of resistances in gen 4 and was only weak to fighting and ground. if you couldn't manage to switch it out against two things then I think the player was the problem here
>>26603193
Not for in-game, but it's amazing for competitive play. Well, it was for me as I ran a more defensive route with it
Bold
Magic Guard @ Fire Orb
-Cosmic Power
-Psycho Shift
-Roost
-Stored Power
MASSIVE hurt to Physical attackers
>>26603522
>Everyone with a different opinion is blind
Nice one anon
>>26603266
(you)
>hating gen v bugs
>hating gen v ghosts
>hating bros likes scrafty who could sweep entire teams with moxie
>muh ice cream
>muh garbage
>muh gear
Oh...
>like axe dragon
Wew lad. You have shit taste.
>>26603479
Holy fuck dude just how bad are you? Empoleon is a fucking tank with a metric ton of resistances that barely any in-game trainer can touch. I used a physical SD Empoleon in Platinum just for lulz and nigger swept half of the E4 pretty much by itself.
Git gud anytime.
It hasn't completely disappointed me yet, just near that meter. Speed and meh bulk is a huge annoyance, and it only does destructive damage if it reaches Torrent range(especially Aqua Jet). Hopefully SM would give it Shell Smash so it would actually be a passable threat.
Used it in BW2. Couldn't hit or take a hit.
>>26603144
>>26603193
Why did you even use such a defensive set for an in-game run? I just slapped Psychic and Air Slash on mine and it did an amazing job, especially mid game when it's stats are still comparatively high.
>>26603266
> All gen 5 minus dumb axe accordion are bad
Shit taste confirmed.
>>26603654
Trapinch and Vibrava are a pain in the ass to train but I never found Flygon itself disappointing, neither in RSE nor in BW2. What set were you using?
playing Soul Silver for the first time, decided to use pokemon I mainly ignored back when I was a kid playing Silver as his first pokemon Game
Meganium, Pidgeot, Kingdra, Quagsire, This fuck and an HM Slut Sentret
>doesn't learn Thunderbolt by level
>so slow that everything got a hit on it
found an electabuzz in the safari zone and never looked back
>>26603517
...You got bad ivs/nature or something? Anyway that's too bad. The sea weasel has been a bro/sis for me in Black 2 and AS.
...Oh what I would give for it to learn earthquake and close combat though.
>>26603705
No, just calling you out for being a huge fucking casual.
Guess you didn't expect this reaction since you already opened up your frog folder
This motherfucker. It's design is some pure trash.
>>26603740
>Ampharos
>bad
surely, this must be a jape
>>26603740
It gets Thunderpunch when it evolves, and fucking Discharge 4 levels later. And it's slow but it hits like a truck.
Really loved his design and wanted to use it on my White team. But it's way too slow and its movepool is way too limited to be useful in-game.Still love the design tho
>>26603740
I got a mareep from the dream world in BW.
It became one of my strongest pokemon and was a lot better than the electric zebra that couldn't take a hit
>>26602113
I had a similar impression. I still sticked with mine until the very end but I always felt it was dragging the rest of the team down.
>>26603719
Probably some shitty level up set
>Crunch
>Earth Power
>Dragon Tail
>Dig
Huh. Maybe it's my fault.
Maybe its just everything else on my team was too good.
>Jellicent
>Chandelure
>Electivire
>Drapion
>Crobat
Pic related.
Slow as fucking fuck, bad moves, always KO against IA even if EV trained.
>>26603740
Why would you need Thunderbolt when it gets Discharge, which also helps it fix its speed issue? It even gets some nice coverage moves like Signal Beam and (IIRC) Power Gem.
I used her in a White Nuzlocke, and early game, she completely destroyed everything, and her normal typing helped out against Brycen and Drayden, but her awful defenses made her near useless later on, and I almost wished that she would be killed. However, I had her from the start, and she never died.
>>26603764
Its a step up from Magmar tho. Also dat special attack.
>>26603372
I used one in Diamond many years ago and I honestly don't remember it being nearly as bad as you're describing it. It has some rather nice mixed offensive stats so it can run basically any type of move. Surf/Waterfall and Return alone covers most of the game, then you can teach it shit like Crunch, Brick Break, Ice Beam or even Aqua Jet for priority.
>>26603824
>wanting a pokemon to die on a nuzlocke
how could you.
>>26603384
my real problem with delphox is the fucking 3d model, it looks like dogshit
Battled my friend with it and it lost to specs weedle
died in two bug bites and couldn't do shit for damge
>>26603106
I used a mixed set on mine since its special attack is pretty good and Thunderbolt actually hits stronger than Spark. Mine had Thunderbolt, Crunch, Hidden Power Grass (got a bit lucky here) and I think Thunder Wave since its speed wasn't that excellent. It wasn't the greatest think I have ever used but it never felt like a drag either.
>>26603872
Yeah, cacturn is pretty underwhelming. Its never a good idea to give a pokemon terrible defenses and poor speed.
>>26601993
Yeah it's not that good but i still loveher
I wanted to like it. I really did.
It's just so god damned weak. How can you manage to fuck up a pokemon this badly? Every other fossil was viable to a degree, but this one can't even stand up to a damn sneeze. It's way too hard to level.
>>26603479
You must suck cock at Pokemon. Empoleon is a fucking sweeper with barely any resistances.
>>26601993
This thing was complete dog shit before it got Contrary and it's the only starter I've ever ended up boxing. It was never worth using over other Grass types in gen 5, especially in BW2 where you could get a Roserade instead.
>>26603971
Can you even get a Contrary Serperior without cheating? I don't remember.
>>26603971
>not coiling everything ingame to death
>ITT: People who don't know how use a pokemon, and start complaining about it.
>>26603986
he was a mystery gift in oras
>>26603106
Glad I'm not the only one
>>26604034
Gotcha. Guess I'll have to go whore myself out to get one later, I missed that event.
>>26603986
code distribution this gen, ended last year
>>26603988
Why would I waste my time coiling up a shitmon when I could be Leaf Storming with a Roserade and be on my merry way?
>>26603633
I boxed it in BW the moment I could transfer Swampert from Diamond
>>26603799
>Crunch
why
>Dragon Tail
WHY
>Two ground moves on the same set
Now you got to be kidding me.
BW2 has so many nice move tutors that Flygon can learn from, you should've tried using them. Dragon Pulse for example is a much better early Dragon STAB choice than Dragon Tail until you get Dragon Claw/Draco Meteor/Outrage later on. But I guess hindsight is always 20/20.
>>26604119
I managed to get through Blaze Black with Serperior, which doesn't learn anything for Contrary until level 60something. All it has extra is stab Dragonbreath, and I guess the resistances. And even in a normal playthrough of B2 Serperior was somehow my mvp
git gud
>>26604137
Crunch is pretty legit, I think my OR Flygon was EQ/Dragon Claw/Superpower/Crunch by the end, had to keep Trapinch for Superpower but that was worth it
Vibrava was gr8 against Primal Don
>>26603633
Megahorn helped me like it a bit more, fucks up a lot of the elite 4.
>>26604165
It honestly isn't half as bad as you describe it, it pulled its weight, could bulk shit for days and dealt perfectly decent damage even without any use for its Contrary moves.
>>26603971
I first struggled with my snek since it was jolly and only had a special movepool in the early game, but as soon as i managed to make it a mixed attacker, it became really good.
>>26604119
I guess the main issue is that as soon as you have to think a little bit, you struggle.
>Urr durr, I can't have fun if I have to press more than one button
>>26604137
The move tutors were at the PWT right? I never did that. And it's not like I was going to fork over... Heart Scales? BP? To fix an in-game mon.
>>26604195
This. It's why I hate flygon
>>26604162
My BnB Flygon set for Emerald re-runs is always Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Fire Blast and Fly (which I sometimes swap for another move just for the League). Honestly the worst part is probably training it in its Vibrava stage since it can't neither take nor dish out any strong hits. But it got much better in future generations, especially in ORAS where it finally learns EQ naturally through level up.
>>26604124
Really? I still used mine even during my BW postgame run. I even used enough to help me win the battle subway until I realized that ingame pokemon don't cut it here. I probably still used it because mine had a Brave nature and was able to run both physical and special attacks unlike Swampert and Empoleon.
>>26603157
same )":
Pretty much the entire team I just finished with my ORAS run, except for Sceptile and Slaking.
>Tropius
>Dusclops
>Sharpedo
>Aggron
>>26604278
>liking Samurott
got some good taste there, anon.
>>26604195
PWT gave out BP like candy compared to gen 3 and 4 and the battle subway. Didn't even need perfectly breed pokemon to do well in it.
>>26603740
>discharge
>power gem
>signal beam
(whatever you want here)
literally op, you just must have misused him
>>26604195
Well I guess it depends on the kind of game you're playing. I have no problem spending Shards on my in-game Pokemon in the designated re-run game / on an emulator since the savefile is getting canned after I hit the credits anyways.
You can guess why.
cool design, garbage pokemon ):
>>26604334
If you don't have huge power? Or before gen 4?
>>26603157
I had to change a nuzlocke in a normal run out of pity for this thing and it still fucking sucked
>>26604310
But that early you don't have items or good moves for OHKO'ing them. The teams in the driftviel tournament is kinda difficult
>>26604334
Azumarill can be shit or very good depending on the game you're playing. He's useless in GSC, decent in RSE and god tier in BW2.
>>26603633
Honestly the worst thing about Samurott in BW is the sheer amount of wild Zebstrikas it can't run away from and no Ice Beam TM before E4.
BW2 suffered from neither of those things and Samurott was actually pretty fun for me to use there.
>>26603824
>awful defenses made her near useless later on
Same can be said for most of the early route shitmons. Vivillon was a fucking beast for majority of my X run but the 50/50 defenses and average attacking stats can only get you so far.
>>26604292
>Tropius
>Dusclops
I don't know what you were expecting here senpai.
>Sharpedo
Was he actually that bad? At least the quick Surf gimmick is pretty fun.
>Aggron
Other than taking a ton of Exp to level up I don't see what's wrong with that guy.
>>26604308
Its literally an ocean's equivalent of an armored warrior. Whats not to like?
>>26604580
probably one of only water types I like, and definitely my favorite water type
>>26603787
You use him for Trick Room shenanigans and not much else. Theres very few pokemon slower than him. especially meta mons.
I had to replace this bad bunny with someone else before the e4.
The bunny is only good for lewds.
ORAS apparently fixed him finally by letting him learn some actual moves at reasonable levels, but Xatu was absolutely excruciating to use in-game prior to that point. The only offensive Psychic-type move it learned until Psychic itself (variously at levels 50+ to 66, fuck) was Future Sight...at level 42. And it didn't learn any special Flying moves until ORAS either, when it got Air Slash at 25. You were completely reliant on TMs to salvage any use out of him, and most of the time I just wound up using him as my dedicated Fly slave because using him in battle with only Night Shade to attack with was painful as fuck.
>>26603106
I found it pretty useful and even took down Cynthia Garchomp with it once while 20 levels under. Of course, by the end I didn't use it for its physical moveset. I just went straight to gimmick shit with Attract + Swagger
>>26605228
>It's not bad!
>I just used RNG!
>>26601993
serperior
>>26603106
It was always handy as a Ghost and Flying counter for me.
>>26605459
>Ghost counter
But anon!
It's not a dark type
What if we still have a bro, but they just seemed a bit harder than the others?
My Simisear was great but really did start to lag in use later on. I really wish it had more moves to really use, since it really could have used it, but still won me quite a few battles.
It has an ability that exposes of the pokemon in my party. Using it in battles became a detriment.
>>26601993
I only use it because I really like its design, but sandslash is really...weak.
>>26605437
>this
>>26605648
*one of
>>26605653
huh I never used it but I thought it was one of the better ground types
>>26605760
I remember it being pretty bad in FR since it's movepool was really shallow and it's stats werent that great. Mine still had Poison Sting and Sand Attack by the time I reached E4.
>>26605760
It has no moves in earlier gens I don't know how it is now.
>>26605425
It's a viable strategy, anon.
>>26605505
But anon!
It has a great attack stat and access to Crunch.
I used to love him, but /vp/ made me realize how bad he is. Now I hate him to death.
>>26606157
>being a tripfag
>letting /vp/ influence your opinions
>>26606166
/vp/'s Taste it's pretty good, and I trust in them.
Thanks to them now I love Gen V, hate Gen 2, fap to furry art and dislike how do Game Freak works.
>>26606116
You might as well be using Horn Drill, it was banned by Smogon because of how cancerous it was
>>26606212
Anon.... We like gen 2 you have to b8 better
Delphox, what a shitty Pokémon and final evolution. The worst designed gen VI pokémon, useless in most competitive formats, terrible ability, movepool, name, and its utter furry bait, ugh
>>26603633
>>26604460
The worst part about Samurott to me is just how unremarkable it is. There are so many better Water types to use in Unova.
>>26606365
>>26606157
>everyone shits on your bro
feels bad man
>>26603813
I mean, it's SUNFLORA. You expected it not to suck?
>>26606401
you're just using it wrong
I've 6-0'd OU teams with a Sunflora before
>>26603740
>not loving Amphy
triggered
Manectric is so trash it hurts, even with a Mega it's utter dogshit.
>>26603193
Sigilyph was literally my first level 100.
Just slapped STAB moves on it. It tanked everything, while doing reasonable damage.
And pretty handily took down Marshall solo.
>>26601993
I have a few succh tales.
>I tried to use a Girafarig in Gold. I was like, 8, so it was a big deal to even try another pokemon.
>In Ruby, I got a Surskit and was really excited for it. Then it evolved.
>Also in Ruby, I got a Clampearl, and had seen a Huntail before. Clampearl was still in my party at level 55 or so when it entered the E4.
>In Emerald, I raised a Poocheyena into a Mightyena, thinking it might get better. It didn't.
>Also in Emerald, I got an Absol because I thought it looked cool. It kept dying, and eventually I gave up.
>Related to Clampearl, In Pearl, I got a combee, and lovingly raised it, looking forward to what it would turn into. Naturally, it was Male.
>In Fire Red, I really wanted to use Hitmonchan, and forgot that the Phys/Special split haddn't been implemented yet..
>In my platinum run, I got an early Magmorter, because I wanted to use it. I wound up boxing it.
>In Soul Silver, I used Chikorita because I had already used the other two. I boxed it before I got to Chuck.
>In White, I started with Snivy. I insisted on keeping it, not wanting a repeat of Chikorita. It wound up underlevelled, and I ended up swapping it out for Zekrom right at the end.
>The X and Y Aurourus blues.
In the downloadable RBY games, I used Parasect because why not? It was kinda fun, since Bug and Poison interacted interestingly, but it just kept fainting.
I always try new 'mons, and get burned a lot because of it. Part of it was just me being a dumb kid, but the stinkers are there if you go looking.
>>26603275
Absolutely loving that original art style
>>26603106
I got lucky and caught a femal, and later caught a male Buizel with Ice Fang.
The first time I ever seriously bred a pokemon for in-game use, not a different game.
>>26603740
i trained an ampharos for the first time like a year ago while replaying Silver, i made everybody my bitch with Thunder Wave +
Thunderpunch
>>26606157
>>26606212
>but /vp/ made me realize how bad he is
By aesthetics or competitive? If by aesthetics, /vp/ is too close-minded to fully-understand Samurott's design because it isn't a stretched out Dewott. Just because the design isn't what you wanted does not make it bad at the slightest. Its literally a shell armored otter samurai, not some retarded unicorn that departures greatly out of Dewott(an otter samurai).
>>26603363
>>26603971
>>26605653
Can confirm it. Also pic related. Sorry bro, you're cool and all but you die way too fast and don't kill anything.
>>26602087
I used Chimecho in Emerald and this bitch took names to the bank.
>>26603106
I kind of hate the design on Luxray too. meh, I'll pass. I don't think I've ever used one on any DPPt run ever.
>>26606570
The only time I ever bred a Pokemon for in-game use was Chikorita in SoulSilver. Figured out I could make it more useful if I bred Leech Seed onto it. Good thing Day Care Center appears so early in the game, and Sunkern is in the National Park nearby.
>>26607007
Which game? I had a lot of success with mine in Black 2
>thread full of Pokemon you really like
Platinum run...regretting adding Gastrodon to the team. Plus I think the design is really mediocre.
>>26601993
It was never as good as I thought it was gonna be and its design makes it look like a giant orange Barney, and worse, its shiny literally looks like Barney.
>>26607161
I think it's really cute.
>>26607153
Well it isnt a "shit pokemon" thread, it is a thread about pokemon who dissapointed
Fucking Seismitoad, one of the very few true disappointments that I've had in-game.
This thing was just so bad. Its damage output was mediocre, it was slower than I expected and it had pathetic bulk. I used one in Black and it just didn't carry it's weight at all. It had Swift Swim as its ability and I tried to fix its issues with Rain Dance, but that didn't help much either. It had to set up the Rain Dance to outspeed any major opponents, and even a rain-boosted STAB Surf wasn't enought o OHKO anything that wasn't weak to Water. Meanwhile, this thing got 2HKO'd even by neutral hits. It was just a complete disaster from the beginning.
Looking at its base stats, I don't understand why it sucked so much. Seismitoad doesn't look THAT bad, just mediocre, and I've used Watchog in Black without having any trouble so why not this thing? It even had some decent nature, so maybe it got fucked in the IV roulette and had like an IV of 0-5 in every stat. Whatever the reason is, I'm never using Seismitoad again. Such a huge disappointment.
This thread is mostly normie faggots who don't know how to battle competitively. Literally any Pokemon with a moveset beyond Tackle, Splash, etc. is viable in-game, granted you're not a complete fucking retard.
Just kinda... underwhelming.
I felt like I did all that work for nothing when he evolved and ended up just standing around awkwardly on my team.
>>26607251
I used an Eviolite Palpitoad in Black once. Almost swept N by itself, shit was pretty hilarious.
I don't know what you were doing wrong with yours anon. If anything Seismitoad should've been even better.
>>26607276
mainly because you get it so fucking late
>>26607257
This isn't about competitive battling though, it's just anons wanting to express their disappointments with some Pokemon during their playthrough.
>>26607169
Are you playing Dragonite to it's strengths?Because without Multiscale and Extremespeed its just a lesser Salamance.
>>26607257
I dare you use Liepard in BW and not kill yourself trying
>>26607290
But that's what he said.
Pangoro was kinda okay, but he's pretty weak against fairy Pokemon. He would've been much better if he was introduced before X/Y.
>>26607290
Yes, and if anything they should be disappointed in themselves for not learning how to git gud
>>26607297
I wasn't talking about competitive. In my play-through of Silver, Soul Silver and Black 2, it performed so terribly.
>>26607397
> he used his butterfree against the e4
>>26607276
I was disappointed with hydreigon because I love everything about it, but you get it so fucking late in the game
>>26607425
Oh. Well Dragonite is pretty mediocre without Multiscale. Garchomp is way better and Gabite evolves way earlier than Dragonair
This bro!!
The moment a saw it for the first time on my ruby run, I caught it and I regret it the whole game.
>Still one of my favorite mons
>>26607979
>Pic related
>>26603971
This.
I wanted to use Grumpig because I always thought that Spoink was cute as fuck and it'd make a good addition to the team. I was wrong, it turned out to be terrible, it was being outperformed by the little Doduo I had caught on and early route in the game. I was so disappointed with it that I ended up Wonder-Trading it and replacing it with something else.
>>26603266
Gen 5 was my least favourite gen, but even I can admit it had some of the best Pokemon introduced to the series.
Saying a whole gen sucks makes you sound like a child
>>26606365
>There are so many better Water types to use in Unova.
Outside of B2W2:
>Simipour
>Swanna
>Amolamola
>Fucking Basculin
>Better
Out of all the Unova starters Samurott is the only one that isn't 100% inferior compared to it's alternatives.
>>26608020
Grumpig is possibly the most boring Pokemon of all time. There is no reason to use it even in the game it debuted in, since you can get Gardevoir or Kadabra much earlier and they're both far better than this PoS.
>>26608470
>Jellicent
>>26608470
There is also Jellicent but it comes pretty late if my memory serves me right.
>>26603824
>she
>>26606551
you sound like a close friend of mine.
great taste, poor experiences
>>26607298
I did...I mean...The game literally hands you N's purrloin(if you played the first game and did memory link) which has 30 ivs, max happiness and is timid to boot.
>>26608470
>Simipour
I now people hated this monkey but she was useful in my black run. Scald and burn everything to death
>>26608483
>>26608491
>Jellicent can run physical attacks just fine
>Jellicent can fire boosted Water STABs under red health
Nice joke guys
>>26602017
What the fuck is this?
>>26608831
>Jellicent
>even getting anywhere near red health
Just goes to show how shitty your otter is.
>>26607007
>Mega Arcanine with fire themed -ate ability to give it stab extremespeed when
>>26608470
Amorousmola is way more useful than Samurott, and Simipour can do the same thing while being faster AND having Nasty Plot.
>>26604346
I had some success with shell smash..
>>26608984
>Amorousmola is way more useful than Samurott
Not ingame tho
>Simipour can do the same thing while being faster AND having Nasty Plot.
Doesn't learn it ingame, made of glass, and lacks priority.
>>26608866
>Implying possessing a situational bonus is a bad thing
>>26609172
>situational bonus
>meanwhile Jellicent is immune to three types and gets healed by one of them
Whatever you say.
>>26609172
>implying not having Recover, Will-o-Wisp, and good bulk is a good thing
Water Absorb is the superior ability.
>>26603227
I was so heartbroken when I saw its stats.
>>26607257
Great, you are the best ever, and have never had any pokemon ever turn out less good than you'd hoped because you are the best ever. Centuries from now, you will go down in history as the greatest single-player pokemon completionist the world has ever known, and your brain will be kept alive in a jar for our descendants to ask questions of. We bow in your presence.
Now fuck off, we are having a very nice thread without contrarian elitist faggots shitting up the joint.
>>26607169
What the fuck dragonite is op as shit in game good move coverage bulky and hits hard
>>26601993
>we'll never get a good Dusclops evo/mega evo
Hold me /vp/
Pangoro
P A N G O R O
>>26609601
Dusknoir looks cool though
it's like what Dusclops would look like when it's unwrapped
>>26609618
You take that back you bastard.
>>26609400
It completely failed me in the Elite Four in Soul Silver.Although now that I think about it, it did have a speed decreasing nature...and it just left a long lasting distaste for it after those bad experiences. I'm not saying that the Pokémon as a whole is bad competitively, I've used Mulitscale-Weakness Policy Dragonite with Dragon Dance, and it sweeps. What I am just trying to say, is that in my personal experiences, it was very underwhelming.
>>26609666
Never
Dusknoir is also one of the coolest characters in EoS
>>26603193
Meh, mine kinda felt like dead weight most of the time. Good supporter I suppose, swapped out tons of tms on him whenever I needed to, and he was great for weakening legendaries, so idk. Maybe I just wasn't really used to that kind of playstyle back when B/W came out
>>26609731
I don't care It doesn't change the fact that they ruined my bro.
>>26609784
Dusknoir became one of my bros after it evolved
to each their own I guess
>>26604974
I had a pretty good run with this guy in platinum. Return and high jump kicked everything to death, only fear ghosts
>>26603971
Superior is the king of this thread. Too much effort for good work.
Mightyena.
What a piece of shit.
>>26601993
I don't think any pokemon has dissapointed me more than Onix. Design-wise, it's one of my favourite pokemon, and after having to fight against Brock's one I really wanted an Onix for my team. I was thrilled when I finally catched one.
Then I found out the terrible truth
>No attack
>No sp.def
>No speed
>Terrible typing
It was simply impossible to use. I've tried to in every game that it is catchable, but I always have to box him. Not even giving it eviolite in X helped much.
>be 8
>get into pokemon through the anime
>charmander kicks ass
>charmeleon becomes unstoppable when he uses rage
>charizard is also a badass
>flamethrower is my favorite move
>finally get pokemon red
>pick charmander
>get raped by brock and misty
>endure through the rape train and keep trying
>finally get my charmeleon to level 24
>learns rage
>excited as fuck
>use rage on misty
>deal negative damage
>can't choose any other moves
>misty bubblebeams my ass to death
>find out charmeleon won't learn flamethrower until really late
>give up on it and restart with bulbasaur
Even through all the buffs GF gave it across the years I still think it's a piece of shit.
>>26608020
Grumpig didn't do shit for me - I trained one up in Ruby and it was just so weak and so bland that I boxed it a few levels later.
>>26603932
I love the design though. Pity it's so weak.
>>26609950
ORAS Mightyena is just lesser Absol with only Intimidate to distinguish itself. Dexnav gives it Play Rough for coverage which is fucking amazing and can finally use its STAB compared to the originals where it was usable garbage.
Just so underwhelming that it wasn't worth wasting a leaf stone on for even more uninteresting and underwhelming Grass/Poison-type trashcan
>>26610025
>negative damage
>>26610228
>usable
I meant unusable. FUCK
>>26607007
>>26607007
Arcanine is really shit until Gen 4
>>26603266
I felt the same way, but I'm replaying Black now, and there are a few gems.
Really like Krokorok and Cofagrius
>>26604974
I have a jolly Lopunny with Fake Out. That works out really well for me.
>>26603384
Delphox was a mistake.
>>26609800
>>26609601
>Megas can't boost HP
Dusknoir would be shit even with one.What a fucking shame.
>>26608835
A Yokai abomination.
Accelgor was my team leader in my original White 2 run. Sure, it was fast, but it tended to not OHKO many things, and would usually go down in a single hit itself. It often would wind up fainted, and honestly, it probably would have been better used as a revenge killer. I think it was actually putting in more work as a Shelmet.
I don't think there were any Pokemon I've used that were true disappointments, but this one comes close. Though the design is still really neat, so I don't hate it or anything.
>>26607007
Holy shit this. I evolved mine too early in B2 as a casual run because I thought I could just give it a heart scale to learn Flare Blitz, and you cant... Its reasonably bulky for a fire pokemon but when I get 1HKOd by a darmanitan's flare blitz their is a problem...
>>26607493
This. I beat the elite 4 with a zwelious (near worthless) in W1, and just hated him for it. I hate pokemon that are made to evolve post E4. Haxorus was everything right with it. Yes you get Axew a bit late, but he still evolves pretty quick vs that three headed menace.
>>26603372
This was one of my top bros in my first platinum playthrough. Surf, Waterfall, Ice Punch, and Crunch was the move set I used most of the game and it served me pretty well
>>26605648
In game im pretty sure the computer knows its a Zoruark even when its ability is on because the sheer number of times ive been hit by random fucking U-turns by non bug types is ridiculous.
>>26603605
>mfw I actually really like Klingklang
>mfw I dont actually have a face to show what a bro he is to me
>>26610340
For the mega, yes. The non-mega is just a joke
>>26601993
I was so excited to use it but it would get one shotted by almost anything. Almost impossible to switch it in safely even in game.
Togetic in Silver version.
I couldn't believe they dropped the ball this hard when the anime hyped up Togepi's true potential so much. I think I kept it to the end of the game, must have ended up as my Fly slave.
And then I had a disappointing time with Carnivine in Diamond version. It's the same game where Tangrowth became one of my unexpected eternal bros though.
>>26607315
This. Was really looking forward to using it in XY but ended up boxing it. It's just too slow.
>>26603157
>tfw solo'd most of E4 with mine
weird how some people can't get into it with certain pokemon while some can
>>26603654
Nigger i swept half the kalos e4 with it only (inb4 le gen 6 meme, gen 6 actually has competent e4) and it wasn't deadweight in any other game i used it in. The only reason why no one uses it is because garchomp completely outclasses it, who the hell even allowed a normal mon to have 600 BST
>>26610228
>Play Rough
Along with all fangs, it has lots of coverage now. Too bad its stats are still beyond garbage
>>26611389
Hopefully it'll get a mega or something.
>>26611492
Unlikely seeing how it got cucked out of mega by houndoom (which no one still uses anyway)
>>26603633
I would have enjoyed BW2 more if Gamefreak didn't trick me into using this piece of shit
>>26611581
well all 3 starters were horrible so at least no one won
>>26611543
Eh, the chance of getting a mega is still there, after all Sableye got one in ORAS.
>>26610359
Delphox is a perfectly good in-game fire/psychic type and can be fixed with move coverage in the future. People just bashing its design must leave this thread, you have nothing to say.
>>26611589
>>26611593
Fuck you guys, he was my bro in white and white 2
>>26601993
>only use is an hm whore
>useless in both playthrough and competitve play
> design thats more insulting than shitting on your neighbors lawn
literally the biggest dissapointment
Beedrill. Always loved him but he kept falling behind in my playthroughs. :(
Goodra was disappointing compared to everyone else in my party.
>Remembered how awesome Scyther was when I was playing Gold Silver all those years ago.
>Using Scyther today.
>>26603193
i used it in several white playthroughs. really good when none of your pokemon are unevolved. it's fragile by the post game, but it's a solid pokemon.
>>26603479
empoleon carried my team in platinum. i used losers like gallade and houndoom who couldn't take hits. empoleon made the game tolerable cause i made a team with no defense otherwise.
The design looks cool and I really wanted it to be my signature poke but it has shit stats and is design to be a physical attacker even though it looks like a caster.
Glass cannon, shit movepool early game, slow as shit, and has a completely useless ability (klutz). I realize the ability thing was my fault for not checking before I started training it, but still fuck that shit.
>>26604519
It truly is a beast, or rather a glass cannon.
>Quiver Dance
>Hurricane
>Bug Buzz
>Sleep Powder
>Compound Eyes
Like, goddamn.
>>26603157
this shit destroys everything with hyper beam at least mine did in y
>>26609926
>guy
>>26611581
Pretty fun mixed attacker though. Although Im biased since mine was Brave and was able to take hits while being able to run both Surf and Ice Beam alongside Swords Dance and Waterfall
>>26603157
This fucking thing, holy shit what a disappointment.
Wanted to love it so much because of design, but who the fuck thought such a shitty typing was a good idea
>>26611117
>He evolved his Togepi
I spammed metronome and beat the E4. Good times.
>>26611830
The sad thing is that rock and ice are both fantastic attacking types, so the typing would have at least been alright if it was on a sweeper, but I don't understand why the majority of ice types have to be slow and bulky. It's sad to say that Aurorus isn't even the slowest and bulkiest ice type in its gen, but it's just so much worse than Avalugg because of the rock type.
Zebstrika
Fuck man, just DO SOMETHING.
Wild Charge actually knocked it out once because I forgot about the fucking recoil too.
Fuck me, such a cool design, but it just doesn't work well at all.
I used Beedrill in Red convinced that it would be worth it once I got to Sabrina.
It was immediately fainted, and I beat Sabrina without needing it.
Basically just took up a slot on my team for the entire playthrough. Didn't mind it too much though, still an awesome design, and fun to use against the regular NPC's I guess. Didn't actually hinder my playthrough at all, just dissapointed that it really couldn't stand up against Sabrina, or most other boss battles.
i gave up on this one in white. it was so fragile i couldn't deal. it'd die in one hit and the evo wouldn't be much better. i got rid of it right before it evolved.
>>26603157
>He willingly and knowingly chose this over the T-Rex
I mean, it looks nice, but for real dude?
>>26603266
This is a retarded post right here.
Generation 5 gave us literally the largest amount of Pokémon to date, and you're somehow convinced that only 1 of them are good?
Statistically and theoritically, Gen 5 should have given us the most good Pokemon, and I'd be willing to bet that it isn't far from the truth.
>>26601993
His character in explorers of time fucked me up, like I was actually hurt
>>26603384
>not everstoning your Braixen to 100
>>26603479
Nigga what, that was a solid Pokemon. I think Gen 4 probably has the best selection of starters, in that they're all 7/10+ designs, and all three of them can be great In-Game. I don't think any other Gen has achieved that.
You just suck.
>>26603740
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>26603764
Magmar was never a nice looking design. It was always one of the "Ugly" monsters, and Magmortar is a very nice evolution for it.
>>26603787
Can tank hits while you heal up your team in hard battles. Yeah, it's a very niche use that barely counts, but hey, that can save you the game.
>>26603740
>being this bad
It doesn't learn any fucking moves in third gen
>>26603787
He was useful in my run. You don't need much outside of nasty plot and shadow ball.
>>26603372
this guy was my bro in my first gen 4 play through on pearl, i agree the movepool sucks but in game the HMs make him
>>26603971Used this guy like 3 or 4 times now, I love him and always will.
>>26605648
Team Viewer is retarded and literally killed this Pokémon
>>26606157
>Letting /vp/ shit on your bro
>Letting them change you so that you now shit on your bro
Man fuck you, this is why nobody likes tripfags
>>26603971
i am using it on my BlazeBlack playthrough. that dragon typing, contrary (which i got after reseting once) and leaf storm + draco meteor are a blessing
Became one of my favorites around B2/W2, but it's such a pointless endeavor. Tried going back to Gold and using it, but I guess it's always been shit. Still a qt.
>>26612074
The story of third gen mons.
They get no moves
The moves they get don't match up to their stats
Their stats didn't match up to their typing.
Compare Mighteyena then versus now.
Take Down and Shadow Ball were the best Mighteyena could do. Crunch ran off of its pathetic special attack.
Now, Mighteyena is one of the best pokemon for a playthrough. Some pokes got better over time, but a few are still brokeass fools.
>>26607161
I'm using it now with no problems. Slapped Sludge Bomb and Earthquake on it, plus it can Surf right?
I dunno', seems useful to me.
>>26607169
Dragonite was always shit and ugly. Hate that Pokémon. It's just "Ugly Charizard that looks less like a dragon than Charizard". And I hate Charizard.
>>26610025
Charizard is an ugly piece of shit. I'm honestly glad so many people get rused into liking it, only to find out that it's garbage.
Only Mega-Y is redeemable in gameplay use, and design.
>>26601993
I take it no one else tried to use Beheeyem? This motherfucker never failed to disappoint me when I used him in White. Turned out part of the problem were his IVs, I think they were all below 8 if I remember correctly. Talk about slow with not enough bulk or damage to back it up.
Someone could come out with a solid top tier build for Beheeyem and I'd still think he sucks because of my awful experience with him. Named that fucker Roswell and had high hopes for the little alien freak, but he was a never ending source of disappointment.
>>26611632
It's a starter rodent, they're always useless anon.
The fact that Bibarel can be used for HM's was a blessing.
>>26612125
Third Gen was all over the place, wasn't it. Any Pokémon that happened to be decent, were rekt 1 Gen later thanks to the Phy/Spe split.
I honestly maintain that Masuda/Game Freak had no idea what they were doing until Gen 4, regarding the competitive battling mechanics. IV's for example, were only implemented at first, to make your Pokémon "feel unique" to your friends. And all the movesets and shit not matching up with what the Pokémon was good at, just tells me Game Freak weren't really thinking about it. I don't think it was a priority to them, they figured kids would just slap anything they could on a Pokemon and hope for the best.
>Loved the design
>Like Ice types and ghost types so it's perfect
>Fast and good SpAtk
>Got instantly nuked by anything
Still use her though
>>26611771
are you retarded? it gets iron fist, mega punch, and shadow punch around level 25 in XY. That thing hits like a truck and can tank to boot.
>>26606277
>being a smogonsheep
>being so stupid you need to be told what pokes/moves/combinations you are allowed to use
>>26612165
Beeheeyem is pretty damn strong. I remember facing a 6th grade kid with one in BW and it OHKO'ed my Leavanny with Psychic in full heath without a crit. I really underestimated it's power and completely changed my view of it.
>>26603384
Braixen was the only good part of the line for being cute.
Fennekin's proportions were unacceptable.
>>26603427
>improved Ninetales
You cannot improve perfection.
>>26612266
well, ok that is true.at least it's perfect design wise
>>26612211
>tfw I'm going through dawn stone and shoal cave bullshit right this moment in AS to get it
it can't be that bad for an in-game mon.
>>26611981
>>26612266
dog fuckers
>>26612289
Fennekin and Delphox are ugly as shit designs. Even if I didn't want to fuck her, I wouldn't evolve her. Braixen is a genuinely fantastic design. I love her lil' wand. Why do you think she is the fighter for her line in Pokkén?
Crobat is a total bro, but holy shit, zubat and golbat are literally the most useless pieces of shit.
Consistent shit.
It's a total pain keeping this fuckers alive while doing a run so they can actually evolve.
Not to mention that all the line's best moves are locked behind the breeding barrier.
>>26612285
Basically guaranteed OHKO by most super effective and neutral moves
Even from lower leveled mons
>>26607161
Weird, it's one of the best in game water types I've ever used.
Maybe it's because you're using the crappy pink version and not the amazing blue version.
>>26610505
I love Accelgor, but gamefreak did it's best to fuck the little guy over.
He's actually really good and fun to use in RU, but his competitive playstyle doesn't really work in-game.
I just wish he got some better moves.
It really sucks that's he's a trade evo too.
traded him as soon as i finished my oras run. full of regrt
>>26612333
o-okay. I'll give it a try for a bit though.
>>26603479
The only time it failed on me was in my most recent Platinum run, and that was becauseI found out it had less than 40 IVs total. What the fuck
Empoleons weaknesses are checked by Crobat, who is fucking amazing. Crobat + Empoleon covers 80% of the game themselves, and then you only need Garchomp or Mamoswine to cover the last bit.
Had to box it, couldn't even get it to Florges. It was just so bad.
Same with Inkay, I wanted it to be good but god DAMN was it useless.
>>26612211
>80 sp atk
>good
>>26612262
>Wanting to play a game with diversity (side note fuck OU t.b.h., but it's 100x better than vgc)
>Want it to be fair, and not a 75% I can't attack (attract+swagger by prankster mons)
>Or get spammed sleep (vgc 2013)
>Or just spam OHKO moves and get lucky
But let's recap why you say Luxray is good!
>I beat Cynthia's Garchomp by spamming moves, that every Pokemon that gets TM's can use, that reduce their odds of attacking to 25%! And could do like over an either of damage 50% time!
>ITS GOOD GUYS! I BEAT IT 20 LEVELS UNDER WITH SKILL
>>26605228 fuck off
>>26612727
>fuck off
That poster is most likely long gone by now.
Save your anger.
>>26601993
>no attacking moves until level 42
>it's just Future Sight
>Doesnt learn Psychic until level 55
>LEVEL 55
I really wanted to like Xatu, but he couldn't even beat Chuck. I boxed him shortly before the E4 to go train up a Murkrow from the Safari Zone which does his Job and then some.
I wish it could've been different Xatu...
>>26612697
>abloobloo
>>26603971
This is my answer here too. Using it ingame was painful because of the terrible type coverage its level up move set has.
Not only is it ugly, but its Mega looks even worse. How could Mudkip evolve into such an abomination?
>>26612928
It's just the eyes that bother me. Why the fuck are the eyes ON the fins
>>26610396
Literally just double its attack and give it back levitate instead of Pressure.
>>26601993
I've always wanted to use the Rhyhorn line in every playthrought, but i always fuck it up.
Anything with a decent Sp. Attack wrecks its shit.
Its defence is irrelevant when it is outclassed with speed or type advantage.
When you think you have a good time to use it, you get a fucker with Brine/Scald/Energy Ball or anything else from nowhere.
I love Rhyhorn and Rhydon, design-wise. And then, on top of all that, they had to drop the literal pile of cowshit Rhyperior is. And no, Solid Rock doen't help for me.
Worse feel about this is that i like and hate Aron and Shieldon for the same reasons: Good designs but flaws i can't go around
One day i'll get good and lucky after trying enough. One day.
>>26611345
>who the hell even allowed a normal mon to have 600 BST
Well, all pseudo legendaries have 600 BST
>>26603193
How? Magic Guard is fucking fantastic to avoid all the sandstorm/poison/parahax shit in normal gameplay, and it's fast enough and strong enough that Psychic and Air Slash usually do the trick most of the time.
Mine was excellent in BW.
>>26612212
Couldn't tank for shit. Literally took one hit neutral stand from same level mons and would go down like your mom after a dos equis. Maybe he had shit ivs Idk, but fuck klutz, why is it even a thing?
Chesnaught. Holy shit, I've never been so disappointed in a starter Pokemon.
>extremely slow
>moveset really underwhelming, doesn't learn anything extremely strong
>makes battles drag on and on
Grass/Fighting is so neat too, but he was just incredibly underwhelming compared to Grenigga and Delphox.
I tried, I really did. But for the life of me, I cannot see why Skarmory is so popular. I used it in my latest HG run and unless you put Brave Bird and Spikes on it, it was pretty much useless. I won't deny it's usefulness in competitive circles, but this thing sucks for an in-game team.
>>26613074
>doesn't learn anything extremely strong
Define extremely strong, because it gets Wood Hammer.
>>26611771
Bullshit. Heavy Slam, Shadow Punch, and EQ are excellent in XY. He was easily one of my top mons in my most recent Nuzlocke.
>>26610025
that's because it IS shit. They had to give it metal claw in FrLg just so it could pull its weight against Brock.
>>26613092
You answered your own question. Of course its battles are gonna be slow as shit. It's not made to fight, it's made to wall. That's why it gets more mileage out of competitive, because the goal in single player is to just wreck everything as fast as possible, and isn't about outliving another player with an equally leveled team.
>>26613103
It learns it at level 55, and I was stuck with Seed Bomb until then, which was really not that great. Hammer Arm felt like more of a liability as well, and Chesnaught ended up not being able to take too much damage despite his tankiness.
It was just not that great compared to Grenigga and Delphox.
>>26612165
Beheeyem is so sad, i wish it was more bulky to make use of Analytic.
>>26613105
EQ?
>>26613786
Earthquake
>>26603227
It works wonders in a trick room team, adaptability is awesome. But I can totally see why someone would be let down
>>26603971
>leech seed
>coil
>body slam + leaf blade everything to death
it was still meh
it's the only design i like out of the three starters from that game though so I usually use it
>>26613074
Dude what?
>extremely slow
He's slow sure but not THAT slow.
>moveset really underwhelming, doesn't learn anything extremely strong
Earthquake? Brick break? Seed bomb/wood hammer? Shadow Claw?
>makes battles drag on and on
That sounds like an issue on your end.
>>26607994
he was my mvp in ORAS
>super luck
>night slash/slash
>razor claw
he crit everything to death
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