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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, upcoming episodes, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g (embed)

>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM1qP1cbj4

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z025: Ash VS Champion Diantha! VS Mega Gardevoir!! [May 5th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! [May 12th]
>XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! [May 19th]
>XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! [May 26th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26149752
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XY&Z21 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_021_A_Bride_for_Citron!_Eureka's_Sil-vous-plait_Panic!![H264_720P][16E8E590].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z25: SATOSHI VS CHAMPION CARNE! VS MEGA SIRKNIGHT!! (MAY 5TH)
>Satoshi's Gekkouga and Carne's Sirknight clash! And at long last, Sirknight mega evolves in battle!?
>Also, the Pokémon Elections 720 is underway! This is the last time you get to vote via the data broadcast!

>Summary:
>Champion Carne has come to Satoshi and the others! She tells them she's heard a prophecy about a crisis that will now befall Kalos and that she came to meet them since it's said they hold the key to the incident. When she asks Satoshi and the others if they've experienced anything strange, they tell her about the mysterious Gekkouga phenomenon, which leads to Carne suddenly asking Satoshi for a battle...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayasahibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Minami
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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Based Adamant
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 31 (May 8th)
>Abareru-kun Parades Around with the Goal of Collecting 1000 Votes for the Pokémon Elections 720 / Nicolun Talks with Pokénds about Love for Pokémon!

XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! (May 12th)
>As Ash, Pikachu and the others head towards Snowbelle City so they can get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Ash, tells them that he has worked hard towards the single goal of catching up with Ash, and has already collected the 8 badges. Ash then decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test just how strong he has become. But just how skilled IS Shota?

XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! (May 19th)
>Having arrived in Snowbelle City, Ash attempts the final Gym match needed to enter the Kalos League. His opponent is the Ice Type Gym Leader Wulfric. Ash struggles with the match, but the key to victory lies with a certain Pokémon.

XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! (May 26th)

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT VOL. 1:
http://www.megafileupload.com/ao6i/Pokémon_XY&Z_Character_Song_Project_Vol.1.zip

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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Best girls here.
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I said this yesterday, I want Kieseki to be played in the anime. So let's meme it to existence.
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Nice name op
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>>26151988
>Nice name op
Nice trip faggot
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Is Serena the best female companion Ash had have?
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>>26151993
D-DELETE THIS!
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>>26151993
Rude!
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Hey is this the shitposter thread?
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>>26151949
>No Misty
>Shitrena there

No.
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>>26152027
No that's Misty obvs, no other Pokegirl that's travelled with Ash could even begin to compare with her.
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>>26151967
But when?
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>>26152225
>>26152233
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>>26152311
>Not accepting Misty as your lord and savior Pokewaifu

Plebs.
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Never liked tomboy girls
Misty can fuck herself
Also she was annoying
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>>26152302
The end of the series.
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Who's the writer for the upcoming episode?
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>>26152362
Me
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>>26151967
>Kiseki plays as the final ED.
>It's a duet between Ash and Serena's VAs.
>The animation shows little Ash and Serena walking through the forest, hand in hand.
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>>26152362
Yonemura
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>>26152400
>XY17
That explains the return of the ninja training.
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>>26152027
Yes. And the only girl Ash actually invited to travel with him.
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>>26152392
Ash and Serena? Not happening.
The whole cast? Possible.
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>>26152340
>Annoying

I never understood this complaint about Misty, every time she got mad at Ash and called him out it was 100% completely justified cause Ash was an entitled, whiny brat back in the OS; I think his perfect Gary-Stuness in XY(Z) is making people forget how he originally was.

Either that or cause they're self-insertfags anyone having the gall to DARE criticize their perfect avatar that's supposed to represent their fantasies offends their feels.

You want an actual annoying Pokegirl? Try Iris who was frequently condescending for no good reason, hell even Serena is annoying as fuck with her whole schtick just being "A-Ash sempai p-pls notice me~! or "Muh Satoshi~!"
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>>26152027
No

Dawn > May > Serena > Misty >>>> Iris
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>>26152392
>>The animation shows little Ash and Serena walking through the forest, hand in hand.

Both grown up and with a kid
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So enough of this Pokegirl shit. Is Ash done with the gym leaders yet?

I want to see the tournament already.
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>>26152478
>Actual objective list

Misty >>>>>>>>>>>> (POWER GAP) May > Dawn (POWER GAP again) >> Iris > Serena
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>>26152476
She wasn't any better
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>>26152501
He still has to battle the last gym leader, which should begin next week.
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>>26152340
And Mistyfags are as annoying as her
See >>26152476
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>>26152501
Wulfric in two weeks.
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>>26152515
Next week is Shota
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>>26152501
>>26152501
We still have Gekkouga angst to deal with, Wulfric, Shota and lots of stuff before we can even think about the League.
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>>26152520
>Stating objective, analyzed facts is "annoying."

No wonder you're so anti-Misty like tumblr you can't stand anyone telling it like it is and offendind your precious fee-fees.
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>>26152505
Objectively Misty was the worse pokegirl, she did nothing for her dream, even Togepi and Psyduck were better characters than her
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>>26152533
>>26152533
The fact that I wish you would fall down some stairs and break your neck is also an objective fact.
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>>26152533
>you can't stand anyone telling it like it is and offendind your precious fee-fees
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>>26152541
>Gets so triggered reverts to ad-hominem attacks instead of calmly refuting the argument.

Yep, sounds like tumblr syndrome alright. Neckbeards and tumblrites are just two sides of the same shitty NEET coin.
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>>26152534
>Nothing for her dream
>What is the Whirl Cup?
>What is eventually becoming the Official Cerulean Gym Leader?
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>>26152562
>Neckbeards and tumblrites are just two sides of the same shitty NEET coin.

And supposedly Tumblr is the nest of the pokeshippers
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>>26152562
I don't want to argue with you. I want you to fuck off this thread.
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>>26152577
Stop replying to youself already.
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>>26152573
I don't think that's true, from what I've seen of the well-known fandom people on tumblr there's an equal amount of both Pokeshippers, Amourshippers and Pearlshippers.

You've got Sufrit and his army, Purim with her band of Amourfags and then Noodle and all his Pearl people.

Only Advance and Negai are underrepresented on tumblr.
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>>26152572
>>What is the Whirl Cup?
3 regions only for that?
And did Misty win?, becouse May won a tournament, Dawn too, Serena made it to the grand final, in which place Misty was there?
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>>26152599
And that's all she's good for, being otaku, neckbeard bait. Shame they couldn't give her a personality to go along with her looks.
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>>26152605
>May and Dawn winning Contests
>Implying girly-girl pathetic contests can be compared to actual competitive battling
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>>26152599
Official Pokegirl Amie when?

>tfw you can only use Miitomo as poor substitute.
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>>26152624
Stay mad Misty, you were a failure for 3 regions
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>>26152624
Misty ended where she started, stuck in the Cerulean gym.
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>>26152645
No, she started in Viridian forest, stop playing dumb.
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How many hours has he been at it now? Must be getting close to 24.
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>>26152660
You know what I mean faggot,
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Why would anyone want to punch Bonnie?
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why are these 3 so perfect?
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>>26152662
It doesn't matter. He will never take away the fact that, shitty episodes like the latest, I'm enjoying myself a lot while watching XY&Z. And I'm obviously not the only one.
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>>26152660
wasn't she fishing there? She wasn't travelling at the time
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>26152680
>No Misty
>All three are generic, girly-girl carbon copies of each other used solely for marketing and to appeal to the permavirgin crowd.

Its time to be an hero.
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>>26152680
The 3 pokegirl goddesses
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>>26152687
What an unfortunate Geekchic hint.
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What is the shittiest animated episode in the whole show?
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>>26152687
ash is a very lucky man to have someone as beautiful as her. She deserves to win him over.
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>>26152691

HONK!
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>>26152703
The latest one? It was glaring as fuck.
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>>26152696
Said the boy that has Misty as a waifu
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>>26152696
kisaramoon pls
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>>26152701
>Geekchic
>Ever having hints

Sufrit pls, its time to stop you're embrassing us sane Pokeshippers. Consider the better keep-away alternative for Serena in Miette please.

There's more hints and more of a chance of fucking LEMONCEST happening than Geekchic.
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>>26152701
>still trying to shitpost after being proven wrong 4 times by me and ignoring my posts knowing how you cant prove me wrong
haha shitposter, your attempts are irrelevant
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>>26152701
>>26152624
>>26152660

Samefag
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>>26152716
That's different I already have a hot gf in rl unlike most of you neckbeards ^:)

One can have both an anime waifu AND a 3DPD girl and having both actually proves you're not a loser.
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>>26152721
>pokeshippers
>anythingshippers
>sane
baka kys tb.h f.am
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>>26152705
>shipping Ash and Serena
Do you like ntr you fag? Ash is Shoko only
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>>26152731
>Samefag is the one who posted about Geekchick

No, I fucking hate Geekchic and thing its delusional and uninspired as fuck! I'm the samefag as this post >>26152721

Stop thinking that all Pokeshippers are just one big hivemind with shit-taste. Some of us are actually logical.
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>>26152703

Fletchling or Froakie's evolution episodes, sadly.
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>>26152742
Shoko is Captain Marvelous only.
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>>26152732
>I already have a hot gf
And its called Misty
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>>26152742
misty pls.
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>>26152713
BF has worse looking episodes
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>>26152742
>4chan
>not liking ntr
It's their biggest fantasy.
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>>26152686
Nah she was travelling in order to get away from her overbearing sisters and to prove she could be a top Water Master and eventually handle the Gym better then they could.
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>>26152741
Well that was clearly Intern Day.
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>>26152753

That is a lure
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>>26152756

>dumb comment
>their

Go back to plebbit.
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>>26152755
I don't know, I haven't watched anything between Orange Islands and XY aside from Pokemon movies and shit. But I thought he was talking about the XY show.
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>>26152764
nah, its also used as a bait in dp when they were fishing for buizel
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>>26152763
I think this was the only episode directed by that animation director, so in a way, yeah.
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>>26152761
Bonnie will only cry if Clemont gets a waifu that's not her anon.
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>>26152721
Of course it has hints, like the two hints in XYZ22. Remember Ash complimenting Clemont's cooking and not blushing? What did Serena do? Complimented his cooking AND blushed.
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>>26152798
>still ignoring my posts that prove your ass wrong
haha you really are pathetic as a shitposter
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>>26152760
>overbearing sisters

On Pokemon chronicles Daisy looks like a very good sister, i think Misty exaggerated about them
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>>26152798
They only made her blush as a side-effect for the kind of smile they wanted her to have in order to make her look attractive in Jimmy's eyes, please just quit while you're ahead. Are you TRYING to make all Pokeshippers look insane or something?
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>>26152804
misty was basically a hothead but no, her sisters were mean to her back then and always called her ugly in comparison to them, now theyve changed and theyre nice to her.
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>>26152798
You already proven wrong even by a Pokshipper, just fuck off fran pizarro
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>>26152804
They were too one dimesional to call them good or bad. Daisy in Chronicles is the result of the writers relalizing this
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>>26152804
>>26152816
Daisy was always actually the least mean of the three actually.
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>>26152816
I wish the show actually developed their relationship instead of them being suddently nice in chronicles
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>>26152831
True but only because she had more screentime, otherwise they are interchangeable
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>>26152824
Seriously, I want Serena to be kept away from Ash like any other Pokeshipper cause Ash is Misty only, but I'm not going to do that at the expense of logic and trying to create and justify crack-ships that have no fucking evidence or even meaningful interaction whatsoever.

I still don't get why Geekchicfags even latched onto Clemont as the only alternative when they have a perfectly acceptable alternative in Miette who Serena actually HAS chemistry and meaningful interaction with!
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>>26152831
yeah, but early on she and her 2 sisters always picked on her for her tomboyish ways and for always being a hothead.
>>26152835
yeah, at least something about them fixing their distance that they had. perhaps they did something like that on their own time, not in the anime to make up with eachother, since they are the reason misty left ash
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>>26152853
its hust one pathetic geekshitposter who tries to use logic but cant. ive even gone by his own dumb rules and proved his ass wrong 4 times and now he tries to ignore my posts to try to remain right. I'm sure he blocked me from posting to him haha
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>>26152864
Really if you want hard, cold evidence that Geekchic was never a thing in any way, shape or form you need only look at the episode where Clemont almost gets a girlfriend before eventually being cockblocked by Bonnie.

Does Serena get jealous or upset in any kind of capacity during the episode? No.

Is she even featured heavily at all in the episode? Nope.

That episode basically completely sunk the ship.
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Ded bred
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>>26152854
>picked on her for her tomboyish ways and for always being a hothead.
wasn't because she wasn't as pretty as them? I say this because you can interpret
t Misty being tomboy as a "fuck you" to her sister, she wasn't even that tomboyish at all.
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>>26152807
>They only made her blush as a side-effect for the kind of smile they wanted her to have in order to make her look attractive in Jimmy's eyes.

That's what you like to believe, but XYZ21 didn't kill Geekchic now did it?
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>>26152900
No cause it was already kill in the episode before it when Clemont almost gets a gf and there was basically zero reaction or focus on Serena ^:)
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>>26152885
Didn't Serena even say that she was HAPPY that things might work out between Clemont and Lillia?
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This is getting out of hand. Perhaps we should ban shipping and Pokegirls discussion for a while. At least until this Ash-Greninja miniarc is done.
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>>26152732
>>26152924
>^:)
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>>26152918
You can't kill what was never alive in the first place. It's just made to piss off Serenafags.
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>>26152885
pretty much, but its satisfying to prove a dumbass wrong with their own logic. right now hes not even posting because im around ready for him. he'll probably check back in about an hour
>>26152896
she was a tomboy in terms of being the toughest of the 4 and not being as girly in comparison. Thats what the sisters tried to make misty think. Misty was always cute to begin with, but she did a bad job of showing it, and with the looks of the show back then it isnt fair. If we had misty in xy for example, she'd definitely look better, but i'd still prefer serena
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>>26152924
I think so, kek if that wasn't a blatant shoutout by the staff that Geekchic wasn't and will never be a thing I don't know WHAT is.

Honestly I'm convinced the so-called "Geekchicfag" in this thread that constantly brings up that blush isn't even a genuine Geekchicshipper and is just trolling in order to make all Pokeshippers look bad. He's probably actually an Amourfag trying to throw dirt on us Pokeshippers, I would not be surprised if that was the case. Amourfags are becoming the new crazy in the fandom and they're obsessed with us Pokeshippers
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>>26152887
Is better like that, these threads are fucking garbage today.
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>>26152896
>Misty being tomboy as a "fuck you" to her sister, she wasn't even that tomboyish at all.

Nah, i think she was like that since the begining, otherwise her sister would not molested her
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>>26152941
>If we had misty in xy for example, she'd definitely look better,
idk she looked worse in the BW flashback and BW had the new art style
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Needs more pics.
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>>26152955
>molested her
w-what
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>>26152947
this shitposter doesn't care how the show ends, but wants serena to not win ash, so it isnt directed to you pokeshippers, but with him easily losing the battle, he tries any desperate move to try to be right
>>26152957
thats not a fair comparison. The directors and animators were awful during those years and ruined that season. Look how different everyone looks in kalos. I'm sure misty can look pretty there with that animation, and more if she let her hair down
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>>26152961
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>>26152961
wait till 11:30am anon, i promise ill be back
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>>26152961

Go here >>26152841
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Can someone post the webm of Serena doing her dance at the Frey Tripokalon? The one that has her amazingly animated dance? I have some noses to rub in the dirt over this.
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>go celebrate on sp about lesterlads winning
>come back and shitposting is still going on
Christ
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>>26152978
serena and dawn are so damn cute
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Fuckin Shitposters, SERENA WAS NOT READY FOR CONFESSION BECAUSE BONNIE AND CLEMONT WERE THERE AND ALSO THAT WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN.....STOP POKESHIPPERS.....YOUR SHIP IS LONG DEAD
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>>26152947
Here's Serena's exact dialogue.

>I'm so happy for you Eureka, things might work out between those two.
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>>26152976
If he was really genuine and just didn't want Serena to win the Ashbowl how come he isn't shipping her with a perfectly acceptable and logical alternative in Miette? Why is he insisting on pushing a crack-ship like Geekchic? I'd like to believe that's just a genuine idiot but from what I know of Amourfags and how fucking crazy and obsessed they are with us, this doesn't seem too far off that they'd resort to a conspiracy like this just to make us look bad and be despised by the fandom.

I do hope you're right though anon and its just an autist being an autist.
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>>26152505
Fucking misty fags. Misty is fucking dead, she won't be back
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>>26152994
Not as cute as Misty, especially long-hair Misty, wew!
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>>26153014
That changes nothing on how good they were as Pokegirls.
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>>26152798
I swear there is only this one shitposter that still believes in this.
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>>26153014
We know but we don't care, that still doesn't erase that she's objectively the best girl.
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>>26153011
he has to be in order to post 24/7 haha.
>>26153023
my dear anon, misty is cute, but isnt the perfect package like serena
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>>26153006
Geekchickfags on suicide watch!
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>>26152991
Is there some murrican holiday today? They've been at it for nearly 24 hours straight now.
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>>26153031
>misty
>best girl
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>>26153039
I can't stop watching this, why are you so cute Serena?
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TIL blushing over someone's cooking suggests you might be attracted to them, well guess i'm fucking attracted to my mum guys.
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>>26153026
Just ignore him, I'm like 95% sure he doesn't believe the shit he's spouting and is trolling trying to impersonate a Pokeshipper to make us all look insane and delusional.
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>>26153011
It's not pushing anything delusional. Look at what happened in the episode.

>Serena is scared and uncomfortable of a potential Ash confession.
>"I'll count on you Clemont!" *blush*
>"Clemont makes really good food" *blush*
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>>26153046
because of you ash. i love you
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>>26152994
But not like that, she should wear something like this when she has short hair. I also doubt Serena is that big compared to Dawn.
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>>26153044
>Being cute, sexy, having an actual DYNAMIC personality with many sides that's lively and full of life and actually grows and changes PERSONALITY-WISE in the show like good character development is supposed to

She is tho, and?
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>>26153055
>still failing at shitposting
Man this anon just makes me laugh at his pathetic attempts now. Hes lost it now after being proven wrong by me 4 times
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>>26153047
/ss/ is that way >>
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>>26153061
well dawn isnt standing straight, she's leaning on her, but serena is a little taller than her because ash in general is taller than dawn and serena is taller than ash
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>>26153055
>Uses two blushes to prove a ship
>Discounts another bigger blush as evidence for another ship

K.
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>>26152853
I wonder if Pokeshippers are closet homophobes, is the same shit with Dawn who had way more chemistry with Zoey, May, Ursula,Leona,etc than she ever had with Paul.
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>>26153062
misty does improve but she had nothing in the series to make her a better gym leader or water pokemon trainer, the most she ever got was a couple of competitions that had to be for water type. Serena actually develops a lot to be what she wants to be and helps ash a lot. She definitely was more caring for ash than misty was.
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>>26153055
Amourfag just stop, this post is blatantly giving you away that you don't believe the shit you're posting and are using anything to try to make us Pokeshippers look crazy, well its not working everyone in this thread even fellow Amourfags can see through your shit just quit while you're ahead.

Also Pokeshippers will always be the top dogs in this fandom and it'll always be remembered as the most memorable and first Ash ship and thus the most well-regarded and there's nothing you can do to change that! :^)
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Which of Serena's Tripokalon was the best?
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>>26153067
You haven't proven anything.

>>26153077
And those two blushes were far more positive and happy, compared to the other bigger blush. With the latter Serena looked like she didn't want it at all.
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>>26153062

How does she grow and change?
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>>26153092
But I'm a hardcore Pokeshipper and I ship Serena with Miette and Appealshipping and even acknowledge that the latter is probably canon :(
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>>26153103
>Most-regarded ship

That's Amour, and also Amour is more popular now.
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>>26153106

The one where Jessie won. Not even kidding.
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>>26153103
not the shitposter but its easy, she forgotten in the anime, last heard hanging out with tracy doing who knows what. no, we cant change pokeshipping as the first shipping, but yes, its forgotten in the anime and wont be brought back again
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>>26152624
Even fucking Iris achieved more than Misty, at least Iris actually won a tournament, had a rival and didn´t come back to the gym with the tail between her legs.
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I'm amazed no one has screen capped Serena saying she is happy for Bonnie because Clemont and Lillia might work out.
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>>26153116
She basically chills out, matures and learns how to control her temper, this is achieved by finally gaining friends in Ash and Brock as well as becoming a mother to Togepi.
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>>26153108
>finally replying
>says nothing was proven
>tried to take back what he said about blushing when i said clemont loves bonnie that way for blushing over her cuteness
>still being a hypocrite like last time
anon, you really have failed in your life with this hahahaha
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>>26153133
The posts in this thread is 90% samefagging shitposters that don't watch the show.
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>>26153120
>>26153127
That's funny then how come every Ashime fan I know in real life answers Misty whenever I ask which Pokegirl they most strongly associate with Ash?
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>>26153133
Exactly. That basically proved she isn't interested in Clemont, but still these fags have to shitpost.
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>>26153135
after she basically stole togepi from ash without hesitation, trying to take his totodile when he saw it first by being selfish, and still was selfish for holding ash behind
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>falling for divide and conquer method.
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>>26153130
>Misty comes back to the gym with her tail between her legs

But anon, Misty's endgame goal was always to BE the Cerulean Gym leader! She just wanted to run the Gym herself without being sidelined by her sisters, her going on her journey was meant to capture more Water Pokemon, master her skills and then come back ready to take back her Gym from her ditzy, lazy-ass sisters.
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>>26153160
Look ay the IP count, m8.
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>>26153145
i said in the anime anon, not in real life. in the anime shes forgotten yet again possibly dating tracy, with more hints between ash and serena. misty will still be the first, i wont argue with that, but she basically lost the battle to ash to serena who has done more for him.
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>>26153171
First post. You guys are a wreck. XY anime sure created lots of butthurt faggots.

fucking KEK!
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>>26153143
Yeah...
>32 posters
Where's everyone?
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>>26151949
why the japaneses are obsessed with Dawn x Ash x Serena threesome?? (in straight way)
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>>26152896
Misty is a character that's lost in localization because the west has very different standards for what's considered tomboyish. In Japan, energetic girls are considered inherently unfeminine. The entire joke behind the character, in Japan, is that she never shuts up about how dainty and beautiful she is, despite it being obvious to everyone that she's a tomboy. In America, the only real indicator that she's boyish is her temper, so the dub usually had to tone down Misty's rambling about how beautiful she was because the humor behind it didn't translate well.
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>>26153145
How is that good? People who don´t watch the anime can recognize May, Dawn and Serena because they are the heroines of their games while Iris is the motherfucking Unova champion. People only associating Misty to the Ashnime and shipping demostrate how irrelevant she is to the Pokemon verse as a whole.
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>>26153155
>Maturing and growing means you lose all vestiges of your previous personality and become like a robot

Misty's nature is inherently alpha and that's hard to shake off, I don't see why you're complaining about that though, at least it still makes her actually interesting with personality compared to boring-ass robot waifu Serena. Its a fact though that after she got Togepi those selfish, impulsive outbursts of hers declined significantly, that doesn't mean they didn't still happen though.
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>>26153170
you do realize that was not what she wanted at first, she clearly stated in the anime how she ran away from them because of how mean they were to her. She just happened to be unlucky and fall into ash's problems and lost her bike. she did gain experience, but lets be honest, it was mainly from the rocket organization. I guarantee you she would lose to kalos ash right now, knowing how different their battling skills are
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>>26153135
Yeah but it was more of her losing her personality. That's the problem of tsunderes, they warm to the protagonist and they are done. Sure the writers could have done more with Misty but it was Johto. Her chronicles episodes were ok tho.

>>26153170
No, watch the Gyarados episode. She still was annoyed at it and she didn't want to go in the goodbye episode and the she accepts it in that episode.
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>>26153190
Waiting it out, I assume.
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>>26153141
Serena didn't enjoy Ash confessing to her, but her blushes about Clemont were happy. But you'll continue to ignore that and post your plethora of reaction images.
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>>26153192
and because how annoying she is. misty overall is the 2nd worst traveling companion ash had, with jungle girl being first.
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>>26153170
She wanted to be a Water Pokémon master, the writers could at least make Lorelei take her under her wing to give us a hint of she becoming a member of the Elite Four in the future but nah, she ended where she started.
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>>26153195
>Post was about people in the fandom who STILL watch the anime associating Misty the most with Ash
>Ignores that

Did you forget to read the part where these are people who have been keeping UP with anime and are still in the fandom?

Just face it, Misty and Pokeshipping left more of an impact on viewers and were more memorable then Serena or Amour will ever be cause they weren't boring shit.
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>>26153194
kek
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>>26153192
whats abaout Hikari? she is a energetic girl too but is very femenine too
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>>26153228

Fucking shitpost after shitpost

MODSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>26153228
>Did you forget to read the part where these are people who have been keeping UP with anime and are still in the fandom?
That's just Tumblr. Not many Pokeshippers on Serebii or Bulbapedo apparently
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>>26153197
but lets be honest, misty still cared more for herself and was selfish to not even consider leaving ash to continue his journey. true ash didnt like the idea of losing her, but as a friend as well as brock since it was his first time saying goodbye to them. Serena has proven herself to be strong many times over misty. Shes always caring, sweet, and has many tripokalons that proved her tough as well as the training she has done, especially when it involves ash. misty is still a good character, but she doesnt beat serena anon
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Misty debaits all the day... fucking why...
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>>26153228
>Just face it, Misty and Pokeshipping left more of an impact on viewers and were more memorable then Serena or Amour will ever be cause they weren't boring shit.
No, it was because OS aired when Pokemon was the biggest hot shit between children. Most of the casuals didn´t even watched Johto.
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>>26153209
>>26153203
Yeah, but she left the Gym PURELY BECAUSE of her sisters! Its not because she had a problem with being the Gym Leader herself she just needed to find a way to BTFO out her sisters. She was always extremely passionate about Water Pokemon and takes great pride in her Gym lineage, becoming the true Cerulean Gym Leader was in-fact her ultimate goal, she just wanted it done without her sisters interfering.

The only reason why she didn't want to go back to the Gym at the end of Johto was 1. because it wasn't on HER terms and was due to her sisters being irresponsible lazy-asses again and 2. she had developed feelings for Ash and was reluctant to leave his side PERIOD! Nothing to do with not wanting the position of Gym Leader itself.
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>>26153194
Whenever someone brings up Geekchic just post this from now on.
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>>26153257
Two shitposters coordinating their shitposting.
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>>26153218
>still trying to doge the truth
>not realizing how serena clearly states how shes happy for bonnie that clemont and lillia can work out for the 3.
>still using the blushing excuse when its easily flawed with clemont blushing over bonnie being cute,
Anon, you suck as a shitposter, try something new cause this is too easy :^)
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>>26153268
Yes.
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>>26153232
Hikari has very dainty mannerisms that make it clear she's just perky.
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>>26153192
So she is not a tomboy?
Do japs even consider her a tsundere? I have never seen her in a Top Tsundere poll, you know, the ones where even Vegeta is.
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>>26153259
>Again ignores my post about these people in rl being actively still engaged in the fandom and not casual genwunners

They say Denial isn't just a river in Egypt anon.
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Who's better, Misty or Dawn?
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why the japaneses are obsessed with Dawn x Ash x Serena threesome?? (in straight way)
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>>26153297
Dawn.
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>>26153257
Cause she's the most interesting and best Pokegirl~ :^)
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>>26153300
Why is Dawn better than Misty?
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>>26153297
Dawn of course
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>>26153280
Dodge what truth? You're still avoiding how Serena looked when Ash was about to "confess" to her. She looked like she didn't like it at all.

>not realizing how serena clearly states how shes happy for bonnie that clemont and lillia can work out.

And that was an older episode than XYZ22. Therefore her blushing over Clemont is more recent.
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>>26153297
Dawn
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>>26153261
you do realize that your post didnt help with the cause? you're not providing anything that involves her gaining experience to be better as both a trainer and as a better person. All you did was mention how bad her sisters were. The most she ever accomplished was being a little less of a hothead and be at least good enough to hold a gym, but shes personally one of the easiest gym leaders
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>>26153261
All the other girls decided by themselves to part ways with Ash because their goal where more important, Misty was forced to comeback with COMEBACK being the keyword since the other girls left to a new places to start new things.
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>>26153309
>>26153314
Do you guys think Dawn better than Misty because of a valid reason?
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>>26153306
Dawn is more cute, more positive, more energical and best character than Misty

and his japanese name is Hikari, is a cute name and means light
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>>26153296
Yeah but it's just Tumblr because mostly of Pokeshipper run to make their nest there
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>9 posts (not counting OP's pasta) about something other than shipping, Pokegirls or meta shitposter discussion
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>>26153345
The episode couldn't air sooner.
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>>26153297
easily dawn.
>>26153310
easy, serena is still shy to try to admit her feelings for ash, so she was thrown off guard when ash held her when he was sick, and got close to her. She did blush and look at ash with caring eyes, and actually expected a confession from him and she felt she wasn't ready just yet. And again you revert to the blushing excuse by saying the episode with lillia is older than the sick episode which is only one episode haha. So by your standards, ash does love serena for blushing when he tasted her poffles. keep trying anon, you keep screwing yourself over :^)
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>>26153345
Dude, there is some legit disscusion about Misty's character
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>>26153094
>Serena develops

Finally finding herself a goal /=/ development in the same way Misty had, which was actual true development cause it changed her PERSONALITY. Also showcases are easy, pathetic girly shit and anyone could win them as long as they make their Pokemon pretty enough, not really such a big accomplishment.

>Serena helps Ash more than Misty and cares about him more then Misty

Yeah because enabling him to be a giant Gary-Stu who has a big-ass ego and who everyone worships the ground he walks on sure is a big "help." Its not like Misty's harsh callouts weren't actually justified or anything and were frequently for his own good that helped him learn actual battle strategies and how to raise Pokemon so he doesn't get too cocky. That's right to neckbeards the only definition of "care" is if a hot girl continually sucks your dick with absolutely no criticism whatsoever even if you need it! Tough love that actually helps you grow? Pshhh who ever heard of THAT?

Also Misty constantly crying over Ash's deaths as well as admitting in the second movie that she'll always be there for him and saves him from drowning sure demonstrates a lot of "not caring~" huh? I'm sure Serena saved Ash from literal death or even cried over him! ^:)
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Maybe the shitposter its pearlshipper, so he want to see pokeshippers and amourshippers fighting each other
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>>26153339
How is Dawn more positive and more energical than Misty? Misty is positive and energetic too sometimes, this does not prove she is better than her. Also Misty japanese name is Kasumi.
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>>26153327
>>26153322
>Misty was forced to COME BACK

So? Misty always wanted to eventually come back, that was her endgame goal; becoming a Water Master to her literally meant BECOMING THE CERULEAN GYM LEADER

>Misty didn't gain any experience as a trainer

Do I really have to keep mentioning the Whirl Cup over and over?
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>>26153368
>starting insults in a discussion
well anon, i talked fair with you, but with your recent post of insults, you shown you're desperate to have a point about misty. Also, tough love vs actual confidence buildup with sweet love, who do you think will win? Misty was very selfish overall and only helped ash when it benefitted her or when she rarely had a heart. I dont count the movies because they are never mentioned in their experiences again in the series so to me its not canon. Misty only teared up in the ghost episode but not when ash literall died in the first movie. Serena hasn't cried over ash because she hasnt dealt with a situation like that yet, but you can see how much she cares for him and does whatever it takes to make him happy.
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>>26153306
Misty of course! She's the sexiest, prettiest girl, first girl and girl with the most personality with many different sides and dynamics compared to the others who are either all girly-girls or like Iris, extreme tomboys.

>>26153339
>Dawn is more positive

Misty is extremely positive too, the only times when she's not is when she's calling Ash out or letting her temper get the best of her, but most of those callouts were deserved and having a temper /=/ being an edgy emo kid.

>Dawn is more energetic

Misty is one of the most energetic characters in the series tho! Rewatch the Kanto episodes.

>Dawn is more cute

Have you SEEN Misty with long hair or in some of those fanservicy outfits?
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>>26153295
She's a tomboy, it's just far more obvious in Japan.

The same thing tends to happen in Super Sentai, where the tomboy girl of the group comes off as feminine to westerners watching the show, so they end up confused when they characters keep talking about how boyish they are. (Jetman Blue is one of the biggest examples)
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>>26153230
>>26153268
Game, set, match, guys.
We're on the last ship afloat.
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>>26152741
The only good thing about this animator is he draws May's bangs really long and cascading down her face. I always liked it when May's hair went downward instead of sticking out to the sides.
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>>26153395
dude, one competition vs all the contests, training, and experiences the other girls have faced easily beats misty. they had to forcefully make a competition thats only for water types to give misty something to do since she hardly did anything in the series. So you prove my point, with misty wanting to go back to the cerulean gym, you became a hypocrite and state that misty doesnt love ash at all, and that she wouldnt win either way. being a gym leader is one thing, being a water master is a completely different thing. I can say crasher wake is the water master since he specializes in water type pokemon
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>>26153358
>shitposter spam
>legit
If you've even read any of those posts, you're part of the cancer
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>>26153389
>Do I really have to keep mentioning the Whirl Cup over and over?
Did she win it ?
>>26153395
>So? Misty always wanted to eventually come back, that was her endgame goal; becoming a Water Master to her literally meant BECOMING THE CERULEAN GYM LEADER
That´s not how it work, should I call Clemont an electric type master too? And Misty was technically already the gym leader since her sisters did jackshit.
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>>26153358
You mean Pokegirl discussion? About a character that hasn't appeared in more than a decade and that doesn't affect current and upcoming eventos in the anime?

Fuck that, Ash is literally fighting the Kalos champion in two days.
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Misty is better than Dawn, you can't prove me wrong
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>>26153414
>Movies aren't canon

They are cause they were penned and directed by Shudo the original creator.

>Says movies aren't canon
>Uses first movie to prove a point about Misty

I'm not insulting you personally anon, please don't start acting like tumblr who can't handle harsh facts and debate, I'm attacking your shit points such as the one up above.
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>>26153368
>which was actual true development cause it changed her PERSONALITY

Yea, Misty changed from tsundere, to just a background character on Johto

>>26153368
>pathetic girly

So you hate girly girls and love tomboy girls, mmm, looks like you like boys

>>26153368
>no criticism whatsoever even if you need it!

I find mutual inspiration way better, becouse Ash knows his friend believe in him, rather than call him kid or bad trainer.

And a simple words from Serena at the begining were better than all Misty "did for Ash"

>>26153368
>I'm sure Serena saved Ash from literal death
Yes, on mirror world

>>26153368
>in the second movie

In the first movie Misty was sad for Pikachu rather than for Ash
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>>26153456
kisaramoon pls
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>>26153395
Honestly, I would agree with you if the writing was good. The writers really didn't care about developing Misty like with the other girls because it was their first attempt.
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>>26153467
>Yes, on mirror world episode
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Misty the best, Dawn a shit.
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>>26153451
I just said that Contests and Showcases are nothing though cause they're just pretty princess girly shit that doesn't take much effort, actual battle-focused tournaments like the Whirl Cup which Misty participated in is actually harder to win cause they're actually for SERIOUS TRAINERS thus it doesn't matter what the other girls sans Iris accomplished because they were participating in babby-tier stuff to begin with.

>Water Gym Leader isn't a type of Water Master and a specialization in a certain type
Anon I...

Looks like someone needs to brush up on their general Poke canon and rewatch Origins or something.
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>>26153458
it doesnt matter if its directed by the same person. Ash never mentions his past experiences in any movie, but does for his normal adventures in the anime. If you are going to use the movies as a reason to make misty show love for ash by caring for him or the anime, than obviously it can be used by me. Like i said, i dont hate misty, shes still a cute character, but she doesnt compare to the other girls, like serena in my opinion who has developed more
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>>26153438
Oh wow real mature there Amourfag! Truly this is proving your discourse on how Amour is such a superior ship and Serena is best girl!
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>they're still at it
How many fucking hours has it been now? Is it just pasta spam at this point?
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>>26153500
And don't forget the movie.
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>>26153503
Dude, the anime has never ever explained what a Pokemon master or a water master or a dragon master is
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Dawn is worst girl, Misty the best.
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>>26153503
so not training hard to do cool things in a contest to show off your pokemon in 2 different rounds is easier than losing in the one real competition misty had? You do realize all the girls had to face tougher odds? serena accomplished the most out of them all by actually beating everyone to face ella, the kalos queen, and still at least do well against her even with a sprained wrist, something misty has never done. All misty did was lose in the one important competition. Again with the gym leader type master comparison. Anon, you have gotten desperate to try to use any logic to try to make misty look different
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>>26153517
that wasnt me anon. I'm using normal discussions to talk with you. I don't even know how to do that myself since im not very knowledgeable on computers. If you're gonna insult the shitposters and think that represents all the amourshippers, then i can just do the same with the shitposts this other person is doing about misty being better than dawn.
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