Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.
>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed
>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g
>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM1qP1cbj4
>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
Next episode:
>XY&Z025: Ash VS Champion Diantha! VS Mega Gardevoir!! [May 5th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! [May 12th]
>XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! [May 19th]
>XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! [May 26th]
Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.
Old thread:
>>26122629
XY&Z20 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_020_Elle_VS_Serena!_Open_the_Door_to_the_Future!![H264_720P][65F0FC71].mkv.torrent
MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent
MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent
XY&Z21 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=800644
XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866
XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860
XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938
NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z25: SATOSHI VS CHAMPION CARNE! VS MEGA SIRKNIGHT!! (MAY 5TH)
>Satoshi's Gekkouga and Carne's Sirknight clash! And at long last, Sirknight mega evolves in battle!?
>Also, the Pokémon Elections 720 is underway! This is the last time you get to vote via the data broadcast!
>Summary:
>Champion Carne has come to Satoshi and the others! She tells them she's heard a prophecy about a crisis that will now befall Kalos and that she came to meet them since it's said they hold the key to the incident. When she asks Satoshi and the others if they've experienced anything strange, they tell her about the mysterious Gekkouga phenomenon, which leads to Carne suddenly asking Satoshi for a battle...?
>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayasahibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Masako Katsuki: Gojika
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Minami
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
UPCOMING SHIT:
POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 31 (May 8th)
>Abareru-kun Parades Around with the Goal of Collecting 1000 Votes for the Pokémon Elections 720 / Nicolun Talks with Pokénds about Love for Pokémon!
XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! (May 12th)
>As Ash, Pikachu and the others head towards Snowbelle City so they can get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Ash, tells them that he has worked hard towards the single goal of catching up with Ash, and has already collected the 8 badges. Ash then decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test just how strong he has become. But just how skilled IS Shota?
XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! (May 19th)
>Having arrived in Snowbelle City, Ash attempts the final Gym match needed to enter the Kalos League. His opponent is the Ice Type Gym Leader Wulfric. Ash struggles with the match, but the key to victory lies with a certain Pokémon.
XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! (May 26th)
POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT VOL. 1:
http://www.megafileupload.com/ao6i/Pokémon_XY&Z_Character_Song_Project_Vol.1.zip
DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac
VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
>Dem diantha legs
Don't do this to me, dammit
>>26127253
Best girl Serena flies into the thread.
>>26127230
>SATOSHI SENSES TINGLING
>>26127253
>>26127230
Whew, that would hurt my hand BADLY
>>26127266
>Longhair
And you blew it
>>26127273
There's no image of short hair Serena dressed as a Sky Trainer.
>>26127293
Shortrena doesn't even need the dumb sky outfit
>>26127273
Long hair isn't bad and neither is short hair.
>>26127302
Long hair or short hair, she's never going to become Kalos Queen.
>>26127316
Reminder that Elle's performance was shit.
Threadly reminder that the hide button is your friend
>>26127316
Seriously, how do she does it?
>>26127322
Stay salty, serena
>>26127325
Salty faggots that had their waifus beaten by Serena voted for Elle, Tierno included.
>>26127345
I don't blame em
Others girls had better chance of beat Elle
>>26127353
Swannagirlfag pls
>>26127325
>>26127332
>>26127316
>>26127353
Well, given that Serena just blew through everyone and still lost even with Ash's voting bots, i'd say the chances are rather low.
>>26127373
>>26127374
Your salt is showing, Serena
>>26127364
>>26127266
Excuse me?
>>26127382
At least I have a boyfriend.
>>26127374
Thank you
>>26127382
Shut up queen of nothing besides dicks.
>>26127382
You will see next time.
>>26127387
Yeah, until the next region rolls around.
>>26127373
I feel like I've seen this somewhere.
>>26127398
>implying
>>26127399
It's a bad edit of the cult rape scene in the anime Mirai Nikki.
>>26127398
Then it upgrades from boyfriend to husband.
>>26127386
Muy bueno
>>26127386
>>26127409
Kill yourselves.
>>26127386
Are Elle's fans Chileans?
>>26127411
Probably.
>>26127411
Elle doesn't have any fans.
>>26127411
Most likely.
>>26127411
more likeShilleanskill me
>>26127302
Safety is always first, young lady!
>Reminder to Amourfags that this happened and was intended by the ORIGINAL CREATOR
Serena and Amour will never be anything more then retconned, commercialized shit even if it does become "canon."
>>26127395
We need action waifu back goddammit. XY has addicted me. We need a 100% action waifu next season.
>>26127434
Just 30 episodes more
>>26127431
indeed
I always use protection
>>26127434
Reminder that it's Sachi and the kid from the ED
>>26127435
I'm still disappointing about the lack of action waifu on the upcoming movie
>>26127434
t. baiting chilean
>>26127441
Juri
Serena a QT
>>26127434
The filename is quite appropiate, because she's dead on the water.
So is Amelia better or worse than Elle?
>>26127477
Better I guess, since Elle is literally Pinochet.
>>26127477
Elle isn't a bitch
>>26127477
For Yoko Hikasa, she's worse than Nami, that's for sure.
>>26127477
Better. Elle is the worst girl of the entire show.
>>26127477
>hating Elle
This fad is getting old.
>>26127441
>Sachi and the kid from the ED
t. Bulbapedo
>>26127483
Yes, she is.
>>26127459
>Some stranger getting a good look at Serena
>>26127459
Okay Ash.
>>26127502
>implying it isn't Ash who's watching
>>26127495
m8 Voyager is in the trailer
who is Voyager voiced by
that's right: Sachi
>>26127493
You're the one to talk Millefeui.
>Ash vs Champion Diantha
>yfw even in 100% Sync Mode with Greninja, Ash still gets BTFO by Diantha
Why do all the Cal lewds involve sexually violating her? Why can't we have a nice ecchi one where she's happy to be lewd? Do people really get off to their waifu's suffering?
>>26127493
>Millefeui
>talking about fads getting old
>>26127493
Elle was always shit
And so are you, millefeui
>>26127515
These pictures should answer your questions.
>>26127373
>>26127374
>>26127510
m8 Grown up Misty is in the trailer with Ash's Pikachu
Why would they be together with a little girl? Especially a GROWN Misty?
>>26127523
Yeah well, but either way it's a movie so...
>>26127514
>makes Diantha mega evolve
>>26127531
>TFW Mega Diantha porn.
>>26127523
right because trailers always tell the truth right
just like how Ho-Oh and Lugia were going to be in M13 as well as an Evil Ash
>>26127521
I don't think Elle has many fans left these days. Even the tiefag moved on.
>>26127511
SHUT IT
>>26127533
Or Pidgeot in that DP movie trailer.
>>26127523
>little girl and Voyager are the singers for the theme
>Ash's Pikachu when it's with the little girl after she's away from Misty
>Misty being relevant other than saying the title of the movie
At least try shitpost-kun.
>>26127536
MILLEFEUI YOU RUINED MY DREAM JOURNAL
>>26127523
>Why would they be together with a little girl?
Ans who is the other girl with them, the one with blue hair?
>>26127544
Why was the scene cut from the movie then if that's all it was?
>>26127536
You will be forgotten just like all the other rivals the female tag-a-longs to Ash have. I mean, when's the last time you've seen Zoey talked about? Or Drew? Thought so.
>>26127550
Voyager
>>26127552
Aren't you technically talking about Zoey and Drew right now?
>>26127528
>Being this much in denial
A movie that was helmed entirely by the Shudo, a movie which he intended for it to end the series as evidenced by that scene.
>>26127549
>>26127552
STOP TRYING TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO MILFIE! YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH TO BE COMPARED TO HER!
>>26127551
because it wasn't going to be in the movie in the first place
just like every other trailer
they do this shit to generate hype and make you think big things are happening
>>26127552
Or Richie, anybody remembers him?
>>26127564
I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!
>>26127572
IIIIIIIIII REMEMBEEERRRRR
RIIIITCHIIIIIEEEEEE
So what's going to happen when Serena finally leaves Ash at the end of this season?
>all these forgotten rivals
>Giselle still talked about on a regular basis
WAIT A MINUTE
>Giselle
>elle
......................................
>>26127560
Blah blah blah, helmed by Shudo, sure, 17 movies later we all know they mean nothing, whatever they might've intended at first now it doesn't matter.
>>26127584
oh my god
>>26127572
I remember when his name showed up on the summary of moltres ep
>>26127584
>Giselle
>Rival
She was nothing but a COTD, who was she a rival of?
>>26127584
>>26127573
From which episode are these anyway?
>>26127584
Reminds me of that guy who stated that elle was based from pic related
>>26127584
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
>>26127582
Nothing because, even if she wants to leave her, he won't let her go. It'll be comfy as hell, as if it wasn't already.
>>26127582
Amourfags will fade into the depths of obscurity alongside their fellow Advance, Pearl and Negaifags and Poke will once again reign as supreme ship of the fandom as it should be.
Order will be restored and all will be right with the world.
>>26127551
>cutting something that didn't exist in it
>>26127584
DOES THIS MEAN ELLE KILLED GISELLE?
>>26127599
From that ep where jessie, james and meowth dressed as ash, serena and bonnie
>>26127606
If amour is dead something new might replace it. Assuming it dies that is.
>>26127605
>Virginity
Too late she already stole it Serena kek >>26127434
>>26127582
People will riot
>>26127606
Shut up Misty, you don't matter.
>>26127613
Ah, so that's the episode.
>>26127616
>>26127605
Step it up
>>26127616
What are you talking about, the girl is Voyager and Misty's kid after they both went lesbian.
>W-What's it like k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-KISSING S-Satoshi??
>>26127582
Amourfags will be the new Pokeshippers, they will cry salty tears of wrath and rage, will go full on autism with petitions to Omode crying out "Bring back Serena" and will bash and demean any and every future Pokegirl and ship that will come along.
>>26127613
>Tuh-da-da-da-dan!
Requesting a Serena Tah-da compilation
>>26127613
>those people were stupid enough to believe this
>stupid enough to believe a floating Pikachu
>stupid enough to believe that a disguised cat somehow looks like a child
get the idiot ball out of here
>>26127606
...You do know this is just making people hate Pokeshipping and getting it to be the most despised Ash ship in the fandom right?
>>26127627
>Latios Latios La La Latios Tios Latios!
>>26127628
>Amourfags will be the new Pokeshippers
>when Pokeshippers are >>26127568
>>26127638
>stupid enough to believe a floating Pikachu
Well, pikachu can learn magnet rise, that would be the closest you get to a *floating* pikachu
>>26127648
That looks like a totally legit pikachu to me.
>>26127648
but how the fuck can anyone believe a Pikachu looks like that
I mean I get that it's a different region but come on this isn't fucking Unova where no one knows shit about any Pokemon outside their region
>>26127648
James did say Pikachu trained.
It's totally legit.
>People call me a star, but I'm just Giselle!
>>26127651
>>26127628
Hey Misty let's go back home.
>>26127655
Frank's Pikachu have those colored tail tips even when they were male. That and there's Fatchu.
>>26127638
Well didn't TR confuse Chespin diguised as Pikachu with the actual Pikachu?
>>26127663
Tracy pls, you're fucking my sister!
>>26127616
Is my bait tasty?
>>26127671
do you honestly expect TR to know things
>>26127672
>implying Tracey didn't make a harem out of the sensational sisters and Misty
>>26127673
ask your mother
>>26127477
Amelia is just a dark counterpart of Serena, so she's great.
>>26127663
Don't look at me Tracy, I'm just a Pearlfag that made that post.
>>26127663
>>26127672
>roleplaying
>>26127674
Heh, not even the guy was hard into Pumpkaboos knew they'd evolve after a trade...
>>26127682
>>26127644
Then obviously Omode is the new 4kids, baiting people into believing Amour will be canon and all hell will break loose if Serena ends up leaving.
Why is she so perfect?
>>26127688
>roleplaying
>fun
I wish we had a /rp/ - Roleplaying board so I could point people there. Hell, we have a /qst/ board now, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for the future.
just click hide
>>26127692
That's not Dawn on the right...
>>26127695
That doesn't even count as a roleplaying, just a shitty answer to bait.
>>26127693
Wrong girl, mate.
>>26127693
Most Tripokalon girls are perfect, they have to if they want to win.
>>26127689
>>26127696
Some spiders are responsible citizens who can put a roof over their children's heads and food in their pincers.
>>26127697
Because Dawn is irrelevant.
>>26127702
Wish we saw more of Kazari in that outfit.
>>26127689
>>26127708
what is this, a meme for ants?
>>26127690
Except she isn't the new 4kids because this is a thing while the other wasn't.
>>26127713
Are you new here by chance?
>>26127710
Too bad. Do you have the image of her from the master class?
>>26127697
It wouldn't make sense if it were Dawn.
>>26127716
>Implying
Covering your ears and sticking your head in the sand won't make the past and truth go away Serena.
>>26127719
Just the one.
>>26127724
>think a source that actually pushes it is the same as a foreign dubbing company that added its own thing
>>26127724
Here's your girl Dawn, just like you like them, with no dick.
>>26127729
>Who is Shudo and both the Orange Islands Arc AND 2nd movie in Japanese?
>>26127726
It still gets me how Mightyena Girl's performance outfit was the same as her traveling clothes.
>>26127713
looks like it
HEY GUYS REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME SERENA DRESSED LIKE MAY
>>26127732
>implying movies affect the series canon
>>26127733
She's a practical girl.
I heard that Sushi stopped translating episodes for PM, which essentially means no more subs, is it really true?
>>26127739
>Implying they don't when they're made by the anime creator
>Reaching this hard
>>26127734
I can go smaller.
>>26127732
>shudo not saying fuck pokeshipping
>2nd movie not being less pushy about it than the dub
>orange islands arc not being pretty barren on its own right
>>26127747
>implying the anime creator matters at this point
>>26127737
Fuck off Scott
Truly qt.
>>26127737
And like Misty
>>26127753
>Implying the Ashime matters at this point
>>26127742
wut
>>26127747
>actually trying to reach to continue shitposting
>>26127762
>implying anything ever matters
>>26127762
>implying it doesn't on a thread about it
>>26127768
>implying matters
>>26127734
What is this, a .gif for ants?
>>26127742
No, Sushi is busy with shit, while Adamant doesn't believe he can sub himself. Meanwhile, subber anon has been kidnapped by PM and hasn't been sighted since.
GETTAN!
>>26127772
>implying
>>26127752
>Implying he wasn't lying out of his ass out of butthurt and actions don't speak louder than words
>Implying the phrase "He's my burden, right?" isn't much more powerful with stronger shipping implications than anything the dub could've come up with
>Implying "Misty Meets Her Match", "Naval Maneuvers" and "Pokemon Peril" doesn't exist in the original version
Quints?
>>26127768
nothing really mattersMAMAAAAA JUST KILLED A MAAAAN
PUT A GUN AGAINST HIS HEAD
PULLED MY TRIGGER NOW HE'S DEAD
Why did they need the robes? Why couldn't they replace them wirh a simple necktie in the color of the performer?
>>26127768
Only Serena matters.
>>26127782
>not wanting cute girls to put on costumes
>>26127745
Sucked up to Ash like a submissive betacuck and stalking him isn't working Serena, what makes you think impersonating a girl with more balls than you would?
Why are the ants invading the thread?
>>26127779
>implying the actions weren't killing off pokeshipping and the dub trying to push it
>implying that was the whole movie as you previously stated and the dub not pushing harder than just that
>implying that isn't barren
>>26127791
for their queen
>>26127784
>>26127779
>"Misty Meets Her Match", "Naval Maneuvers"
Clearly Misty always had something for Orange Islands dicks, no wonder she ended up with Tracey.
>>26127791
Civil War is coming anon
>>26127791
Fucking antman
>>26127791
Same reason you got the usual stale bait running around again after the last thread.
>>26127788
Stay mad Misty.
>>26127784
That's true.
>>26127792
>Implying this makes sense when Pokeshipping wasn't put to rest till Johto, coincidentally right when Shudo was having problems staying on staff
>Implying Misty getting jealous of Melody's interest in Ash and Melody constantly goading Misty about her feelings for Ash wasn't in the original too
>Implying Ash getting jealous, Misty choosing to stay with Ash over being with a hot guy and Ash and Misty blushing and being all tsun-tsun when Team Rocket implies they're a couple is "barren"
>>26127793
>>26127786
I like cute girls in costumes. It's just I'd like it even more if they catered to my dick.
>>26127784
>not even watching where he's walking
Ash needs to be taken off of the computer.
>>26127801
Keep sucking and riding that Gary-Stu Ash dick Serena.
>>26127811
She looks like a man with long hair.
>>26127813
>implying Serena isn't willing to do that
>>26127815
She might, but a cute girl like Cal would still be a cute girl in that outfit.
>>26127813
Ok.
>>26127813
>>26127817
>Implying enabling the now soulless Gary-Stu!Ash is a good thing
I know one thing's for sure if Misty were still around she wouldn't be tolerating this "Lets all suck up to Ash and be his personal fanclub" perfectionist bullshit!
>>26127808
>implying it doesn't make sense and isn't what happened with the end of Johto being pretty much the middle finger that the dub edited
>implying they were as prominent in the original
>implying Ash was jealous when Misty was being a dick to him over one guy, cucking the other guy, and being tsun-tsun over being embarrassed isn't "barren"
>>26127825
Yeah, that's why she's no longer around.
>>26127825
>WHY IS ASH'S LIFE PERFECT BUT MY LIFE IS SHIT IT'S NOT FAIR I WANT TO BE LOVED BY EVERYONE WHAT THE FUCK HAS HE EVER DONE WAAAAAAH
>>26127828
Let me just set the record straight that automatically puts Pokeshipping over Amour.
Did we EVER see Ash blush in embarrasment over Serena like he did with Misty in Pokemon Peril?
No?
I rest my case.
>>26127830
Think it might be teen angst?
>>26127434
>no z cheek marks
>hair more like nurse joys
ASH IS NOT THE FATHER,ASH GETS KEKED BY DOCTOR JOY
>>26127835
That's like the argument people use for Serena blushing over Clermont or the other guys, or "feeling uncomfortable" over what appeared to be Ash's confession to her.
>>26127829
>Implying that's not why the anime went down the drain
The original Kanto trio had conflict, had character, had actual PERSONALITY compared to this goody-two-shoes happy-happy unrealistic baby bullshit!
>>26127839
ASH GETS KEKED BY NORMANAt any rate it isn't canon
>>26127836
could be jealousy or him wanting Ash to be disliked
>>26127835
is that going to stop people from shipping tho
>>26127843
>WAAAAAAAH WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKING ASH HE SHOULD BE HATED LIKE EVERYONE ELSE MY PARENTS NEVER LOVED ME BUT EVERYONE LOVES HIM I GOT KICKED OUT OF THE POKEMON CAMP FOR BEING A WHINY BITCH EVEN GARY HATES ME WAAAAAAAAAAH
>>26127835
>implying constant itching with the context hasn't surpassed that one time
>implying that moment wasn't when they started killing off pokeshipping
>>26127560
But ash would've died if that was the case. That just makes it even less possible for that girl to be ash's daughter. It could still be misty's though,just not ash's
>>26127842
He was obviously blushing out of embarrassment back in that episode, Serena never once blushed in embarrassment when it came to Clemont, that blush was just a side-effect of the smile the animators were trying to have Serena make.
>>26127835
you know who else Ash blushed over
that one chick from the school episode
what are the chances of it's the same guy replying to himself
>>26127843
There's no conflict, at least most of the time(which back it was mostly attributed to Misty anywya) but they have character and personality.
>>26127851
Well, you got your shitposter still trying with Pokeshipping. It's not that people will stop shipping, he just sounds ass mad.
>>26127859
>that blush was just a side-effect of the smile the animators were trying to have Serena make
>>26127851
>Gary
Fuck the anime could use Gary back or just another rival like him, Ash being worshipped like some kind of God that could do no wrong even by his rivals is starting to piss me the fuck off! Gary, Misty, someone with attitude needs to get back in there and knock him down a peg off his high horse.
>>26127863
Guaranteed
>>26127866
I think he's tsundere for Ash secretly
which can only mean one thing
>>26127871
Gary isn't a rival anymore anon they're bros now
didn't you watch DP
>>26127811
Well, too bad it panders to Satoshi.
>>26127873
Fuck off Scott.
>>26127871
>implying Ash should always be the Spider-Man of anime
Perhaps you might need to vent anon instead of blaming your frustrations on him.
>>26127873
we need a flowchart for this shit
>>26127881
maybe he needs therapy
hey anon, buddy, do you wanna talk about it?
>>26127871
So I suppose you liked BW.
>>26127876
>shitposter watching the anime at all and not here just to shitpost
Nigga.
>>26127873
Better add "Muh Gary" and "Ash is now a Gary-Stu" to the pic.
>>26127886
is it boredom or sadomasochism/psychopathic mental deterioration or what
>>26127885
Iris was a nigger but had more personality and backbone then Waifurena yes.
Still not as good as the original Kanto trio tho, the rivals were shit too.
>>26127891
>preferring an immature brat who shits Ash for no reason over a charismatic girl that loves him
Why do you hate Ash anon? What has he done to you?
He's just purposely saying crap now, isn't he?
How many episodes into XY&Z do we have to get until Serena will have had her short hair for longer than her long hair?