New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW (embed)
How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks
To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
provides an approximation.
Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads
>Your Old Cards
No one wants them
Previous thread: >>25824161
ToTT: Do you go ninja, go ninja, go?
>>25839841
Translation on that Greninja? I don't recognize it
>>25839863
It is yet another Japanese Promo
Aqua Shower W Does 20 damage to each of your opponent's Pokemon
Dual Cutter WC Flip 2 coins, does 60 times the number of headsSo it is shit compared to the other two
>>25839863
It's a Japanese promo, first attack deals 20 to all opponent's Pokémon and the second flips 2 coins for 60x heads.
If it gets released here, I'll probably play one post-rotation as XY replacement.
If someone was to build a Mega Mewtwo Y&X deck from scratch.
How much would it cost, and what cards do I need?
I'm will to do what it takes.
>>25839961
why are there so many people who dont use google in these fucking threads
>>25839976
Well, I want to hear it from the pros on here.
Google gives you a deck, but I'm not sure which one is the best.
>>25839999
everyone sucks dick here
>>25840014
even mine?
post worst cards ever made
How much does the promo Jirachi go for? I never see any offers of it so I can't really gauge how many packs it's worth
>>25839961
Not that guy but it could be that they like to hear the opinions of people they feel some sort of a connection with. You wouldnt go to your local cardshop and be like ''I wont ask my fellow players their opinions ill just net deck and disregard these people.'' I know its not quite the same but some people act that way. Just let them do them lmao.
>>25839961
>Mega Mewtwo Y&X
Don't, Mega Mewtwo X is unusable and every time I see someone has one in their deck, I see it as a sign that it will be an easy win.
That's not even touching how X and Y have no synergy at all and running one will only hold back the other.
>>25840066
Literally just evolution fodder.
>>25840101
its good evo fodder tho, works well with M Alakazam
![Arcanine.SV.50[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/w5Dqewl.png "Arcanine.SV.50[1].png")
>>25840066
considering when this was made, it's the worst, no doubt about it
>>25840115
>4 energy vanilla 40
holy FUCK
>>25839999
>I want to hear it from the pros on here.
Ok you got it, here's a Mewtwo deck I run
First you need
>4x FA of Mega Mewtwo Y
>4x FA Mega Mewtwo X
>4x SR Psyburn Mewtwo
>4x Base set Mewtwo
>4x Rocket's Mewtwo
>4x Gold Star Mewtwo
>4x Imakuni?
>5x pieces of Exodia the forbidden one
>4x Ace poker cards
>99x of each energy card
I hope I help out, this should be a cheap deck.
>>25840101
>ability literally does nothing until you mega evolve it
Fucking disgusting
>>25839999
>9999
nice quad
I messing around with a mix Mega Mewtwo X deck, with Shrine of Memories , and Fighting Fury Belt.
>+40 extra HP added to MewtwoX's 230 HP
>Shrine of Memories lets Mewtwo use Damage Change
>Everytime Mewtwo takes a big hit, I can hit back harder
It sounds good on paper, but it needs work.
One day I might trade this sleeve, but I just love watching its value continuously rise.
I kind of wish I took the time to go back to Game Stop a few more times to get more codes and have a stockpile of them.
>>25840210
How can Fury Belt work on Mewtwo x? He isn't basic
>>25840139
>5x pieces of Exodia the forbidden one
>>25840246
>He isn't basic
It doesn't work, if he mega evolve?
I just started the game, good thing I saw this now.
>>25840246
he's a retard.
>>25839961
Here, this is when I run for Psychic Infinity M Mewtwo-EX...
>>25840290
what do I replace the shaymins with?
>>25840306
Nothing.
>>25840306
You can't
>>25840306
you don't...
>>25840320
>>25840312
are there any mewtwo decks that work without shaymin?
>>25840326
I think what you meant was:
>Are there any decks that work without Shaymin?
The answer is no. Pay up goy.
>>25840290
This deck, I can do, it's a lot easier to work with.
I have all those cards, just no Shyamin sadly.
Would Seismitoad work?
>>25840334
some decks have to work, I've been winning a lot with my homemade psychic deck.
>>25840336
No. They do completely different things.
>>25840334
Greninja Break works without Shaymin easily
>>25840326
>shaymin
There is a good reason why it is so valuable.
>>25840290
And Vanishing Strike M Mewtwo-EX.
Oh, and here are the missing cards for both decks.
Psychic Infinity M Mewtwo-EX
>2x Float Stone
>3x Mewtwo Spirit Link
>4x DCE
>6X Metal
Vanishing Strike M Mewtwo-EX
>1x Weakness Policy
>1x Hard Charm
>3x Mewtwo Spirit Link
>4x Fighting
>6x Psychic
>>25840306
As >>25840312 and >>25840320 pointed out, you don't.
If you HAVE to replace Shaymin-EX due to cost, an Octillery line is okay.
>>25840334
>Are there any decks that work without Shaymin?
Greninja BREAK decks work well without it thanks to Octillery and Dive Ball.
>>25840366
be that as it may, I still need to do something other than just play theme decks until I have the shaymin.
>>25840341
Anything can win on PTCGO
And I mean anything
Because it's mostly kids playing
>>25840383
so why claim that I NEED shaymin?
>playing Shaymin
>2016
>>25840375
Well, there are SOME decks that don't need shaymin, but building them might not be easy and they might not win as much.
Give me a min to find a few that I have to post.
>>25840394
how do you even use this monstrosity?
>>25840139
>no Draw 4 card
Literally tier 2 meta deck
>>25840406
You keep returning it to hand and healing it until your opponent decks out. There are little to no attacks that can one-shot Wailord.
>>25840406
You stall your opponent with whale and other fat pokemon until they deck out
You use potions and energy discarding supporters and that kind of thing
Funnily enough you win against Night March every time as long as you have a mildly decent hand
>>25840406
golduck break/ffb/max potions
>>25840405
First off is the old Meta-hand deck
Let’s not pretend it was anything more than a meme deck, and honestly, I just used it for dailies. I haven’t updated it in a while and for good reason; now that judge is in standard, it is next to unusable.
Pokémon - 14
1 Bunnelby PRC 121
1 Aegislash-EX PHF 65
4 Beldum AOR 47
2 Metang AOR 48
4 Metagross AOR 50
2 Deoxys ROS 33
Trainer Cards - 34
3 Switch HS 102
4 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
2 Professor's Letter XY 123
4 Lucky Helmet AOR 77
1 Sacred Ash FLF 96
2 Muscle Band XY 121
4 Tierno KSS 39
2 Heavy Ball NXD 88
1 Brigette BKT 161
2 Steel Shelter PHF 105
4 Rare Candy PLB 85
1 Cassius XY 115
1 Energy Retrieval AOR 99
3 VS Seeker PHF 109
Energy - 12
4 Double Colorless Energy NXD 92
8 Metal Energy XY 139
Total Cards - 60
is the gengar 'down the corridor' deck any fun?
experiences? suggestions?
tempted to try it
>>25840422
Buzz buzz motherfucker
>>25840487
yeah, but it struggles to oneshot if you go against any thing that heals. It's nice but almost an auto loss to M-Man
>>25840441
FFB?
>>25840507
Fury belt
>>25840371
Isn't there a deck coming out soon, with Shymin in it?
I'm getting ready to bite the bullet, and drop $80 for two FA cuz, they are the same price.
That, or I'll wait, and make my own deck, with out Shymins.
>>25840458
Speaking of forgotten meme deck, here is good old Bunnleby Mill.
This was fin to play and might still hold up if tweaked a little. The hardest thing to get here is going to be the Life Dew and the flare gears. Realistically, you ae looking at a win rate of less than 20% but those precious few wins will feel satisfying.
Pokémon - 4
4 Bunnelby PRC 121
Trainer Cards - 48
4 Trick Shovel FLF 98
1 Battle City PR-BLW BW39
2 Skyla BCR 134
3 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
1 Lysandre AOR 78
4 VS Seeker PHF 109
1 Professor's Letter XY 123
2 Teammates PRC 141
3 Hugh BCR 130
4 Robo Substitute Team Flare Gear PHF 102
1 Professor Sycamore XY 122
1 Silent Lab PRC 140
2 Team Flare Grunt XY 129
2 Shauna XY 127
1 Brigette BKT 161
4 Crushing Hammer KSS 34
4 Revive BLW 102
1 Head Ringer Team Flare Hyper Gear PHF 97
1 Energy Retrieval AOR 99
3 Enhanced Hammer DEX 94
1 Life Dew PLF 107
2 N DEX 96
Energy - 8
8 Fairy Energy XY 140
Total Cards - 60
>>25840516
There is no reprint of Shaymin EX down the pike for the US.
>>25840516
That was an April Fools Day joke from WPM, but Shaymin-EX is getting reprinted in Japan's Premium Champion Set.
>>25840503
who is M-Man? Muscle Man?
>>25840574
M-Man is a fan term for M Manectric-EX.
>>25840371
>trip
why?
>>25840521
The penultimate deck is from the newly formed Legacy format, and a classic: Garchomp/Altaria. Here’s where the real tradeoff is, although Shaymin is no longer needed in this format, Computer Search is highly recommended if not mandatory. Honestly, this is not a bad deck to invest in since it sits in the middle on the scales of both cost and ability to win. It’s even possible to go without Computer Search, but some of the Pokémon are going to cost you. I won’t post the deck list for this one since I’m still working the bugs out.
>>25840521
How does this work?
>>25840597
>new to these threads
why?
>>25840708
>taking your trip off so that it looks like people give a shit about you
hehe
>>25840632
Finally, we have the deck I’ve been using in the legacy format: Reshiphlosion. It functions surprisingly well and is one of the best things to have at the ready in a format that has a renewed fear in Virgens. Not going to lie, this one is almost guarantee to be too expensive for you unless you were lucky enough to have got 3 or 4 of the Typhlosion prime bundles a month or two ago. If you have them, great, but if you don’t you’re better off saving up for those Shaymin since the Computer along with those Typhlosion, Junk Arms, Oaks, and Rescues are going to add up fast if you don’t have a head start.
Pokémon - 13
4 Cyndaquil HS 61
1 Quilava HS 49
4 Typhlosion PR-HS HGSS9
4 Reshiram PR-BLW BW23
Trainer Cards - 35
1 Computer Search BCR 137
2 Colress PLS 118
1 Pokémon Collector HS 97
3 Silver Bangle PLB 88
1 Ultra Ball DEX 102
4 Professor Oak's New Theory HS 101
1 Dual Ball CL 78
2 Super Rod NVI 95
1 Skyla BCR 134
1 Engineer's Adjustments UL 75
4 Professor Juniper DEX 98
1 Revive BLW 102
4 Rare Candy PLB 85
2 Pokémon Communication HS 98
2 Burned Tower UD 71
3 Junk Arm TM 87
2 N DEX 96
Energy - 12
2 Rescue Energy TM 90
10 Fire Energy BLW 106
Total Cards - 60
>>25840702
You do whatever you can to prevent you opponent from attacking or taking prize cards while you discard every card in his/her deck.
>>25840521
are there any viable mill decks out there? or is this it?
>>25840566
>Champion Set.
aw fug
>>25840632
I'll have to test it out, I remember running it back when it was the shit to run if you didn't have a lot of cash.
This is what I've been running for a few days, I've gotten a lot of shit for cockblocking people's EX from damaging me thanks to Plasma Steel Klinklang.
The missing cards are two Special Metal Energy.
>>25840737
Rayeels is also rising in usage, I was running it when Legacy came about and I still do from time to time.
>>25840793
Houndoom is pretty good in standard now that max potion is a thing again. And with a few big big mill cards coming in XY10 it will get better.
>>25840819
What a bright and beautiful future.
>tfw you can't play because you don't have a playset of shaymins
>>25841032
There are a few decks out there that don't need Shaymins
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>STANDARDFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>STANDARDFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
STANDARDFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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lmao?
Hopefully this is this gens iteration of Legendary Treasures/Call of Legends. I'm ready for next gen senpai.
>>25841129
What the fuck happened?
>when erry copy of the card you need is in your prizes
So are there no good TCG channels on YouTube? I'm subscribed to TheTuffPuff and Rare Candy but ever since I quit YGO and unsubbed from all those channels my subscription box has been hella empty
>>25841129
what the fuck happened?
Any suggestions for a worthwhile deck I can start working towards?
I've been playing for a month or so without any sense of direction.
Shaymin seems far off.
>>25841145
this better come fucking quickly
>>25841232
>So are there no good TCG channels on YouTube?
I've actually been watching this guy called OmniPoke lately. He gives pretty good commentary and uploads shit often. His videos are pretty long which I like so I can have them in the background.
I'd check him out
>>25841206
>be playing Greninja Break deck
>fucking amazing opening hand
>going first
>level ball up my Remoraid for the Octillery value train
>both are in prizes
>>25841251
Greninja BREAK
>>25841352
Coolio, this looks really reasonable.
How much should I pay for the octillery cards? 2 boosters?
>>25840597
he is a retard, just ignore it like most people here
>>25841393
You can usually snag your Octilleries for 2 boosters and maybe a few decent cards
Or 2 Octilleries for 5 boosters
>>25841484
Thanks. I'll be on the lookout.
Other then that I need the 2 Breaks.
Do you know how much do they usually go for?
>>25841498
>>25841484
thinking about trying this one:
Pokémon - 16
2 Greninja BREAK BKP 41
3 Froakie BKP 38
4 Frogadier BKP 39
2 Greninja BKP 40
1 Greninja XY 41
2 Remoraid BKT 31
2 Octillery BKT 33
Trainer Cards - 35
3 Rough Seas PRC 137
1 Wally ROS 107
4 Crushing Hammer LTR 111
4 Dive Ball PRC 161
1 Super Rod NVI 95
1 Skyla BCR 149
4 Puzzle of Time BKP 109
1 Evosoda XY 116
2 Battle Compressor Team Flare Gear PHF 92
4 VS Seeker ROS 110
1 Fisherman HS 92
1 Rare Candy UL 82
1 Lysandre FLF 104
1 Town Map BCR 136
2 Muscle Band XY 121
4 Professor Sycamore PHF 101
Energy - 9
9 Water Energy XY 134
>>25841145
>Shaymin EX getting reprinted
SHAYMIN FAG TEARS INCOMING, PRICES GOING DOWN TO CHINATOWN. Based TPCi.
>>25841498
Grenouille Break usually goes for 5 boosters. Maybe it has gone up.
>>25841515
Remember when Mewtwo EX got reprinted and now NXD Mewtwo is one of the most expensive cards in the game?
Remember when Mew got a LT print and the DRX copy is still at 10 packs?
Remember when this Shaymin reprint was announced almost two weeks ago and Shaymin's price hasn't budged?
>>25841528
>>25841498
like 4-5 around there
>>25841515
I don't want a shaymin reprint if that means we're getting a toad reprint.
Have a code, take a maximum of 2 if you could. And post pulls please.
[email protected]
email me codes if u want me to posts pulls since nobody else ever fucking does.
>>25841586
I saw one of those dog tags at Toys R Us. That shit is ancient, why do they still have stock?
>>25841586
thanks
>>25841505
I would try running 3 Greninja BKP and 3 breaks imo. It works really well
Also I'd recommend a few splash energy just to get back your entire break line. A couple level balls are nice too because it lets you get anything from your octillery line and froakie and frog.
>>25841554
>Remember when Mewtwo EX got reprinted and now NXD Mewtwo is one of the most expensive cards in the game?
Isn't it only the full art that is still expensive? All other non-FA versions of the X-Ball Mewtwo EX is rather cheap now since it was printed 4 times (NXD, BW Promo, LTR, and Battle Arena decks)
>>25841586
I swear to god, I have never gotten a single code.
>>25841664
okay, what would you take out for those?
>>25841554
This is true for the full arts, not the regular arts.
>>25840796
>Rayeels
The problem with that and Reshiphlosion is that there is currently a bug that can freeze your game when using pokemon with abilities that move energies from the discard pile.
There is a topic about it on the forums and according to them if you quickly close and reopen the game, you can avoid losing because of this in tournaments.
collector here
am i the only one who absolutely adores FA cards? I think its so cool they made them texturized and it really adds to the look
>>25841787
The best ones are the ones NOT made by 5band.
>>25841787
I'm collecting all the full art XY cards 1 by 1, so you're not alone.
You're never the only one you fucking retard.
>>25841787
Did I time travel to 2011
>>25839961
This is a deck I saved from a thread last week, it looks like the most fun from the ones I have seen, especially if you want to bring the most of mewtwo.
>>25841724
Uh I don't really like the energy removal plan with crushing hammers very much. Also I dont care for the flare grunts just because there is much better proactive supporters I prefer like wally to jump you to Break faster
Usually when I start chaining breaks the games over anyway
Heres my list to compare
>>25841908
Thanks for the input.
I don't have any experience with this deck, so I'll try the one you just posted.
best place to check how many packs i need to stump up for cards on tcgo?
>>25841206
>need a hex
>both copies on prize
>opponent playing greninja
>uses frogadier clone attack
>doesn't put any frogadier
>he concedes
Sometimes it works on my favor, so I am ok with it.
>>25841946
Public Trades.
>>25841801
why is that? i dont have any Mega FA cards but they at least look nice
>>25841982
good one.
>>25842025
Are you joking, or do you legitimately not understand how it works?
>>25842029
it's like the GTS on steroids, they're asking for way too much.
>>25842088
Not him, but it is just like that, the buyers wants for cheap, and the sellers wants a lot, so, probably the ones being sold/bought at the intermediate values are sucessful while the other two dies by timeout.
>>25842088
>>25842088
are you retarded?
it is not nearly as bad as the GTS.
>>25842115
>>25842115
are you retarded?
it is.
>>25842088
As a game dev working on a card game, seeing people so radically misunderstand the basic concept behind a public trade system makes me understand why paymodels like Hearthstone's work.
No shit the trades you see are asking too much. That's why no one's accepted them.
And do you know why you don't see any fair or beneficial trades? Because people already accepted them.
How is this such a hard concept for so many people? The entire premise of your logic is that people are going to willingly leave good trades up for some magical reason.
>>25842138
so i should just sit there refreshing for an hour like a sperg, ok anon, thanks!
>>25842150
Again, such horrible lapses in basic logic and common sense skills make my job as a dev a nightmare.
I'm not trying to be rude to you, I'm just legitimately baffled how you and many other players legitimately can't figure out such an easily, straightforward concept.
P O S T
Y O U R
O W N
T R A D E S
>But anon, how do I know how to make a fair trade that will get accepted?
U S E
T H E
F I L T E R S
Let's say I want a card. Manaphy EX, to use an easy example.
So I USE THE FILTERS and see what everyone on public is offering for a Manaphy EX.
I see a bunch of listings offering 1 or 2 packs for it. A bunch.
BUT REMEMBER WHAT I SAID:
>No shit the trades you see are asking too much. That's why no one's accepted them.
I also see that no listings are offering 3 or more packs for the Manaphy EX.
Now, using BASIC LOGIC, what does that mean about the value of Manaphy EX?
I'll give you a few minutes to use your noggin, but if you give up, I'll spoiler the answer for you:This means the card is obviously worth between 2 and 3 packs, since everyone's taking the 3-pack offers. But, since so many people are offering 2 packs for the card, there's a chance that you can probably get it for that much too if you're patient.
CONGRATULATIONS, you know have the basic, day one skills necessary to do the most barebones of public trading.
Fucking retard.
And before you say anything about Manaphy's price, I made the numbers up for the sake of an example. I'm sure the piece of shit's worth no more than a pack for the FA.
>>25842202
did you really write all this in response to me? This isn't the kind of advice i was looking for LOL
you moron.
Kill yourself, you failure at life.
>>25842150
>refreshing for an hour
I spend 10 minutes max to check the price of all the cards I want. If you spend an entire hour, the problem is yours.
Why do they use red Gyarados for all the Gyarados-ex's?
>>25842202
there are no filters on public trades?
>>25842258
Whoa, HOT comeback over here coming from the neanderthal who couldn't even figure out the absolute basics of a public trade.
Then what kind of advice ARE you looking for, retard? Do you want a tutorial post on how to breathe?
>>25842304
>>25842308
yeah, spend another 20 minutes writing an essay on that lmao, your parents will be proud of you then!
anyway guys how many packs per roaring skies Shaymin EX would you say is faie?
>>25842331
They're not proper filters at all, you retard.
>>25842341
why don't you check public trades? Or you don't know how to use them?
>>25842341
dude this is embarrassing, you're getting destroyed left and right.
just give up.
you'll find the posters more forgiving at leddit.
>>25842341
>not proper filters
confirmed for not being able to use filters either.
>>25842354
the cheapest shaymin ex asking for packs on public right now is 19 (nineteen) roaring skies packs, how am I supposed to figure if that's fair or not???????????
>>25842364
sure i am kid, keep telling yourself that
>>25842372
they're shit, plain and simple, just like you!
>>25842378
that is a great deal.
average is around 24
>>25842378
kid, you should visit a site more suited for your age, like reddit.
>>25842395
thanks
>>25842378
You use your trading company of choices pricing guide instead of being a useless fucking blob.
>>25842396
Reddit has a generally older userbase than 4chan
>>25842511
especially /vp/, this place has the most underage users on the site.
What would the resale value on the Mythical Legendary boxes be in about 2-3 years if I had all 11, unopened with zero box wear?
>>25842617
Well let me fucking use my soothsaying powers and look into the future, I'll get back to you champ
>>25842617
only mew will be worth a lot.
>>25842645
Why? Muh G1? Even if it's a full set?
>>25842511
[citation needed]
Also suited age =/= userbase age, porn sites are full of underages, but the site is not suited for them(or it is, depending on your definition of suited).
>>25842711
yep
>>25842617
>2-3 years
Add their value and put a 10% on it. Now, if you want some real cash, you need to buy iconic products, and wait for 10 years or more.
>>25839841
>>Your Old Cards
>No one wants them
Speak for yourself, OP.
>>25840422
M Gardevoir would like to have a word with youafter she has spent 6 turns setting up
>>25842726
I think this site is very VERY well suited for underage teenagers, considering /pol/'s domination of the site now. Reddit is more for mid 20's. 4chan more for angry edgy teens
so, any changes to this deck?
I need super scoop up and the four bats lines, but besides that, what would you do?
>>25842962
Reddit is for kids that wants to look like a mid 20's person, and 4chan is for mid 20's person that wants to look like a kid.
>>25840375
desu few decks legit cannot function without shaymin
>>25842993
>what would you do
Get a way to deal damage. If your opponent has Rough seas, center lady, any type of healing, hammers, damage swap, or decided to try out the meme Wailord deckout, you are fucked.
Without to mention to all other decks that deals damage much more faster than you, which includes all meta decks.
>>25842746
Are these sets iconic?
>>25843064
so, what would you recommend? I have a banette that can attack free with the stadium
>>25840139
>No Get Out Of Jail Free cards
>>25843087
Usually these kind of anniversary products are, but considering how many of them there are, I don't think they will get much value.
>tfw packed full art shaymin EX
feels good man, shame I've not long started and don't really have the cards to build my own deck yet
>>25843132
Even as a full set of 11? Which I'm banking on more than anything else?
>>25843148
You say full set as if it was a numbered collectible, but if anything, people will want a discount for buying the whole set of 11.
>>25843148
>>25843202
For example, all the unowns, all the rotoms, or all cards from a single set usually costs extra, but if you buy all 3 tins cans from the same release, you expect a discount.
It is because tin cans are completly independent from one to another, like the mythical collection.
>your favorite pokemon will never be a viable deck
Can anyone share me a good Seismitoad EX + bats deck?
>>25843338
You mean the second place worlds list?
>>25843372
Sure was it a standard tournament?
>>25843379
At the time..
Any advice/critique?
>>25840066
>killing these things left, right and centre without really caring
>stumble upon an article saying how good a card it is
Kek
>>25843485
>almost every deck in standard runs basics
>TPCi releases a card that locks opponents out of doing damage with basics
>with an attack that needs 2-3 energy
>worst card ever
Reevaluate your opinions
>>25843472
>4 BIRCH
shit
>>25843512
It was a deck build I found online and I'm fairly new to the TCG. That's why I'm asking for advice.
>>25843333
Daamn
>>25843566
Well you're gonna want to drop Birch to 1 and put in 2 Shaymin Ex.
>>25840115
Holy shit, a base set Pinsir could do 50 damage from 2 grass and a dce.
>You used a special card to win the game.
Ha! That was so worth it!
>>25843666
How did that happen? What did you use?
Reverse holo cards are cancer
>>25843683
Probably Slowbro.
Jirachi month must be magic because I sure do start with Jirachi + energy a whole bunch.
>>25843683
>>25843701
I was using a VERY old deck to win.
Missing cards are...
>2 PONT
>4 Seeker
>4 Twins
>3 Lost World
>3 Rescue Energy (dropping it down to two)
>7 Psychic (upping this up to eight)
>>25843744
>lost world
>literally sending your opponent to the shadow realm
Cool mechanic, it needs to come back someday.
>>25843472
Cut three of the Birches for two more Ultra Balls and a Super Rod.
>>25840334
Fairy decks can live without Shaymin.
>>25843898
No they can't. Any deck that needs to evolve anything needs to run Shaymin or risk never drawing what you need.
what are the odds of me pulling some EX FAs in a booster box?
Strictly a collector
>>25843914
think you're guaranteed one or two
>>25843911
>Run the risk of not drawing stuff
>What is deck thinning using Xerneas
>Juniper
>Birch / Shauna
>Ultra Balls for more deck thinning
>Misty
I know they're not as good as Shaymin is, but there are options out for decks that means they can be alright without Shaymin.
Why the FUCK is the M Charizard EX Generations card worth so much? I thought megas were shit in TCG?
>>25843914
At least one to two, three if you are lucky. It is not like in the old days when you usually open only 1 FA EX a box
>>25843975
It's a goddamn Charizard son, you should've known by know that Charizard = $$$ by default
>>25843975
>I thought megas were shit in TCG?
>M Kangaskhan, M Mane, M Rayquaza, and M Mewtwo have all regularly topped tournaments for years now, including Nats and Worlds
Is there any reason why you choose to hold opinions with no supporting evidence?
>Why the FUCK is the M Charizard EX Generations card worth so much?
Collectors. Charizards are always expensive.
>>25843960
Okay, let's consider the fact that Fairy decks are fucking slow.
Slow.
S L O W.
L
O
W.
Your best form of energy acceleration does no damage and takes one whole turn at a time.
And also, you have to evolve multiple times. Aromatisse. M Gardevoir. Whimsicott. Maybe others.
But NOW, without Shaymin EX, you're purposely making your deck even slower than it already once was. And you don't stall, like Toad or Vileplume or Groudon. You just have Pokemon that do no or little damage. And you're expecting a slow deck, now made much much slower, to survive? Yeah, no.
>>25843975
Not sure, but still not worth as much as M Charizard EX from Flashfire.Ive seen it as high as AUS $170
>>25843997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8b-RsB4Dv4
I know this guy is using a Shaymin in his deck, but the fact that he only runs ONE rather than multiple sort of implies that maybe it's not a necessary as you're making it out to be.
>>25843947
>>25843989
hmmmmm
debating an Ancient Origins or BREAKthrough Booster Box. Which one should i get?
>>25844034
>one deck
>rule of thumb for all decks
>>25844034
Hahaha that guy is fucking garbage at the game. He sorts through tens of matches of losses and posts the ones where the RNG sucks him off.
you guys want some codes?
>>25844150
Put them behind puzzles or they'll get gobbled up by scripters.
QV(see)-JXH(Are)-GFQ-8FE
EY(three)-VVK(you)-H(see)M-KK8
FU(nine)-UVL(dee)-4EN-(four)yp
(six)VJ-8H(eight)3-VFW-HP(eight)
post pulls or RNG will forever be against you!
>>25844195
I got the first two. Give me a sec and I'll post pulls.
Thank you, anon!
>>25844073
Isn't that technically what everubody does, though?
>>25844073
>He sorts through tens of matches of losses and posts the ones where the RNG sucks him off.
Not trying to defend DarkIntegral here, but how do you propose someone make a showcase youtube video for a deck?
Do you want someone to show all the games where someone disconnects, someone bricks so the game's over in two turns, the games where you open Shaymin and have to concede before your opponent's first turn is over, the games where your opponent uses all of his timer, and so on?
Like, I get what you're coming from, but it's not like he's claiming the matches are all sequential candid games, he's just showing off good or fun matches and matchups. What else should he do?
>>25844195
>>25844229
Here's the first one.
Was the second one Breakthrough or Breakpoint? I redeemed before my brain could read which one it was. I want to open the right one.
>>25844073
Everyone does it, even Pookaexcept with Deck Wizard decks
>tfw you think you have a problem
New to the Pokemon TCG here, also trying TCGO. Is there a separate thread for paper Pokemon, or is it all bundled here?
Either way, I'm just wondering if there are some mechanics I should avoid if I want to make a decently competitive deck.
Like for instance, should I just flat out avoid anything that relies on coin flips?
>>25844288
This thread is for both.
If I were you, I would try playing for a while on TCGO first so that you start to learn the game, what works, what doesn't. That way if you end up not liking it, you wouldn't have sunk money into physical TCG for nothing.
>>25844288
you can't avoid coin-flips. Even the most used card in the game, Darkest Shine Charizard-EX-Ultra, relies on coin-flips to be truly effective.
>>25844288
>Is there a separate thread for paper Pokemon, or is it all bundled here?
All here, thread is slow enough.
>Like for instance, should I just flat out avoid anything that relies on coin flips?
Yes, but this isn't hard to do.
Just play whatever sounds fun on PTCGO. It's a children's card game with a minor paywall, so there isn't heavy competition. Anything can win.
Just don't build Darkest Shine Charizard Ultra like a faggot.
Do you want to go second with Seismitoad EX decks in standard?
I would think attaching double colorless and starting to attack and start locking them out would be more important than going first but I don't know that much about the deck
>>25844288
pretty sure its all bundled here.
>>25844328
It doesn't matter. With Seismitoad, no matter what you do, your opponent is going to get one turn of items.
It's better to go first because then you have two turns to hit that DCE and set up your field or bench, plus you get to dodge things like Trev or Vileplume that take full advantage of going first.
>>25844360
Alright thanks
>>25844304
what?
>>25844287
You made me feel better about myself. Thanks anon
>>25844266
Because his matches are only ones where he plays a modified theme deck or his opponent dead draws the whole game and he wins by default. Other youtubers get way better matches than him and don't make extremely shitty decks either. Abluegolfball was good before he quit, even when he made up clunky decks he made skilled plays and got good matches.
Now that he's gone there's no one good left other than league profilers.
>>25844270
Breakpoint i think
>>25844465
Define the types of decks other youtubers make.
>>25844485
Here's the pulls, then.
do collectors give a fuck about BREAK cards? I'm still new into this business. i think they're kinda ugly myself...
>>25844495
I'm talking about taking a card or set of cards and making decks around them working. DIG fills his up with clunk like Birch, Tierno and Roller Skates. On the chance he makes a deck that could be viable or rogue he does dumb things like try to play two supporters or evolve the same turn he played.
>>25844517
Those who are completionists would, since you can't have a complete set without them.
>>25844517
they're alright I allocated a part of one of my binders for one of each for collection, because it's eazy.
>>25844517
If it's a pokemon I like I might keep it.
But if I can't use it in a deck, I'll sell it.
do you guys think if I hold on to an IRL Gold Vs Seeker it'll reach Ultra-Ball Tier prices?
>>25844287
what's in ur blaziken deck bro? actually interested in all those lists
>>25844377
count your blessings you haven't gone against this meme card to end all meme cards. it's like TPL just thought, "remember that discard mechanic all the players abused in the Fossil set? Let's multiply its effect by 10 and then add 3 trainer cards that synergize with it perfectly". I mean sure, if you're a fan of Darkest Shine Charizard (I mean who isn't) then it's a great card. . .but for everyone else it just kinda panpours over everyone's parade.
>>25844655
All those decks are precons. Blaziken and Gardevoir are from the EX Master Trainer gift set.
>>25844644
Probably not. The bling Ultra Ball is valuable because it's the most blinged out version of the card, but the most blinged out version of Vs. Seeker is a reverse foil FRLG version of it, with all the energy symbols and shit.
>>25840066
>>25844666
Wait, Panpour is a meme card? Or are you talking about Charizard?
I'm confused.
>>25844688
Conversion I is okay I guess
>>25844717
Team Rocket Porygon is just plain better, though.
>>25844034
>>25843472
Can we just add a Fairy Deck to the OP or something; this gets asked every other thread...
Until Fairy can combat being 1HKO'd and get an answer to night march it will never be a good deck.
>>25844722
Haha, yeah
>>25844740
Don't see what's wrong with asking for advice on a deck.
>>25844821
>Don't see what's wrong with asking for advice on a deck.
Google will give you the same or better answer.
The posters generally have a very poor notion of how to build a deck in general. They don't need advice on a deck, they need advice on the basics of the game. Which Google provides.
You get the same deck questions over and over and over. Everyone wants to build a Fairy deck, or a Greninja deck, or a Toad deck. Check the archive, people ask for this shit several times every thread.Should I put together a spreadsheet like DNG has with some sample decklists for all the more common decks, with some minor explanations?
>>25844858That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
>>25840066
>>25844695
well Darkest Shine Charizard is a flip card so yeah it is both Panpour and DSC.
>>25844740
I have faced nightmarch a grand total of twice in 400 matches
>>25844858
>Should I put together a spreadsheet like DNG has with some sample decklists for all the more common decks, with some minor explanations?
If you want people to stop asking, yeah. Asking them to do more work will obviously get ignored
>>25844957
>Darkest Shine Charizard
Wtf is that?
>>25844034
DarkIntegral is not competitive in the slightest. He is fun to watch and its great to see him making use of lesser used cards but, his decks will only fly online because its children. Competitively, he is trash.
>>25845096
You're probably too young to remember
>>25844740
>Until Fairy can combat being 1HKO'd and get an answer to night march it will never be a good deck.
Xerneas-EX + FFB
>>25845261
Oh. I didn't recognize it because of the "Darkest" part.
>>25845261
Where's the "Ex-ultra" part of this card that you mentioned before?
The Shiny Gyarados Tin or Box. Hmmmmmmmmmm, decisions decisions.
>>25845399
Box gives you a pin and a figure.
>>25845425
But the tin gives me a tin which I need to store my extra energies.
Whichever I get will determine if I get the Blastoise tin or box when it comes out too. And the Blastoise box has generations packs.
>>25845399
I'd go with >>25845425 seeing as how neither card makes a good deck
I will say this though: having Gyarados swinging for 150 by turn 4 is pretty neat
>>25845453
I play a Gyarados deck online, it's fun as fuck.
I'd love to play it in paper, too bad no one plays Pokemon here
