which starters are the strongest not counting megas?
Probably Infernape and Greninja.
Blaziken and Infernape
Greninja and Blaziken.
>>25743470
Greninja, Blaziken, and Venusaur
Charizard.
>>25743524
>mfw this is literally the best starter combination you can get in X and Y
>>25743470
Infernape. Literally won both on fire and water starter back in its gen.
>>25743470
Typhlosion (Special Damage output, Eruption), Swampert (BST), Emboar (Physical Damage output, Reckless Flare Blitz), and Greninja (Speed and capability to use it effectively).
Charizard and venusaur are suny day sweepers, arguably Venu is better.
Blaziken is broken with Speed boost.
Serperior has only one set with shit coverage
Greninja has protean and gen I level of coverage.
Infernape is a late game sweeper.
Sceptile hat it's niche with un burden..
Blastoise is a decent spinner, swampert is gastrodon little Brother with more offensive move pool , feraligatr is Gyarados baby but with a better ability, typsion has a decent eruption, with in the sun kills anything that does not resist it.
Empoleon has good typing, and move pool, emboar reckless fire blitz and sucker punch for fun
Most powerful one is among them, for a reason similar to the ones I say. Greninja, Blaziken and Infernape would be the best without support.
>>25743470
What kind of tree (Stone) is that?
Swampert is good at putting out damage and taking hits. If there were no hidden abilities, Swampert would be the best starter
I love Serperior, but i can't find it very useful in matches. I still use him anyway.
>>25743917
>him
>>25743917
>him
>>25743531
>what is rock throw?
>>25743917
>him
Did i really just wrote that?... Fug
>>25743470
Blaziken got into Uber first with Speed Boost, and Greninja got into Uber when it could learn Gunk Shot iirc.
Not including Megas at all.
Technically, though, Swampert has the highest BST of all starters.
>>25743952
Inaccurate.
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All three of the Kalos starters are actually pretty good, which is one of my favorite things about that generation.
I think Feraligatr is pretty good
In order
1. Greninja
2. Blaziken
3. Serperior
4. Feraligatr
5. Empoleon
6. Infernape
7. Venusaur
8. Swampert
9. Chesnaught
10. Blastoise
11. Emboar
12. Delphox
13. Sceptile
14. Samurott
15. Charizard
16. Torterra
17. Typhlosion
18. Meganium
>>25747701
Venusaur should be top 5, especially Mega
>>25748557
He said excluding Mega.
>>25743524
>>25743514
This
1 - Blaziken
2 - Greninja
3 - Venusaur
