Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.
>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed
>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g
>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J85uNIrqVC4
>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQUuhfvdjU
Next episode:
>XY&Z21: A Bride for Clemont! Bonnie's S'il-vous-plaît Panic!! [Apr 7th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z022: Serena Becomes Ash! The Ultimate Pikachu Showdown!! [Apr 14th]
>XY&Z023: Ash and Alan! Greninja VS Mega Charizard Once Again!! [Apr 21st]
>XY&Z024: The Forest's Curse and the White Phantump!! [Apr 28th]
Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
>Will Serena win da Ash?
Ask Bonnie about it.
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.
Old thread:
>>25699342
XY&Z17 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv.torrent
MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent
MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent
XY&Z18 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=792396
XY&Z19 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=794532
XY&Z20 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=796559
NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z21: A BRIDE FOR CITRON! EUREKA'S S'IL-VOUS-PLAIT PANIC!! (APRIL 7TH)
>As Ash and his friends continue their journey, they encounter a girl who has a Buneary as her partner. Bonnie proposes to her, but she doesn't laugh it off the way everyone assumed she would!? It turns out she is the only daughter of the president of a world famous robotics company, and she tells them she's on the look for a prospective partner. She takes great interest in the devices Clemont has made and somehow feels very good about him.... but Bonnie appears less pleased
UPCOMING SHIT:
POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 25 (Mar 27th)
XY&Z022: Serena Becomes Ash! The Ultimate Pikachu Showdown!! (Apr 14th)
XY&Z023: Ash and Alan! Greninja VS Mega Charizard Once Again!! (Apr 21st)
XY&Z024: The Forest's Curse and the White Phantump!! (Apr 28th)
POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT VOL. 1:
http://www.megafileupload.com/ao6i/Pokémon_XY&Z_Character_Song_Project_Vol.1.zip
DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac
Wtf is happening in this image? Creepy shit since the music doesn't kick in until after it has been shown.
Ok, I think 38 is representative enough for these threads.
http://strawpoll.me/7170176/r
According to this, almost 1/4th of posters will leave if Ash doesn't win this League, a similar number of anons will stay no matter what.
The interesting thing is the other "almost-half". Are they unsure about leaving, or are they open to the possibility of eventually returning after leaving?
>Before the dance episode
>Used to post all the time how I wanted Serena to go full on Hajime no Ippo beatdown on Millefeui in the dance episode
>I post about how she's a loser, a complete failure who has never won anythingif only to be an ebin bully
>Would then go on to constantly post about how I wanted to see her emotionally break and that seeing someone sensitive like Serena cry was nothing compared to seeing someone smug like Millefeui cry
>XY&Z19 comes
>Miss the episode, OP image shows Millefeui distressed
>Immediately jaw drops, I'm surprised as fuck yet satisfied
>Post asking what happened
>Repeatedly post pictures of her crying afterwards
>Eventually people act like Millefeui is hated
>End up posting a lot about how she did nothing but give you the flusterd spaghetti spilling Serena you people all loved
>Continue to post crying Millefeui
>Make a few /a/ threads with her
>Continue to post crying Millefeui even more
>Post smug Millefeui too
>I now realize I've been a Millefeuifag all along
Have I been tsundere this whole time?
>Wulfric's gym has Hail on-going
Neat
>>25704293
ARE YOU BULLYING MY WAIFU? LEAVE MILFY ALONE.
>wulfric's gym looks even better than olympia's gym
dat atmosphere
>>25704216
Shit nigga, I watched it literally 1 hour ago. It was very good imo. Ben Affleck is the best Batman I have ever seen and the fight scene between him and superman was fucking top notch. But it was some stupid shit I didn't like. But much better than /tv/ makes you believe.
>>25704286
we'll probably get a new version of the XY&Z opening, kinda like megavolt, with completely new animation
>>25704293
You can't be a true Millefeifag without enjoying bullying her, anon
>>25704308
>Milefeui
>Ash's waifu
Anon pls.
>>25704313
Frozen wasteland.
>she will never come back
>>25704280
>Ash becomes a Pikachu a second time, and the title of the episode is to suggest that Serena becomes to Ashachu what Ash is to Pikachu
>>25704335
>she will also never come back
>>25704335
Are we posting characters who will never come back now?
>>25704313
>tfw it is only a 2 vs 2
>no mega obama
>no articuno
>no other hidden ice ace
I just really hope it's 3 vs 3 or more with the final pokemon being some kind of power creep for Ashninja.
>>25704335
Please don't post her. It only brings up bad memories from this thread.
>>25704335
I found you, faker!
>>25704354
I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS
>>25704350
Apparently so.
>>25704286
edge
>>25704286
busted a nut
>>25704293
And I, Stale, have liked Serena since the beginning.
Still don't trust or have faith on Ash. None, zero.
>>25704337
>the blue Pokeball makes a return
>>25704367
How does one even become a cusslerfag?
>>25704381
That's nice, which stale are you though, the one that pushes geekchic or the one that's like "I CAN'T LOSE XDDD"? I'm guessing the former.
>>25704388
whatever happened to the latter
>>25704388
Latter. Attention whore is he.
>>25704388
>How does one even become a cusslerfag?
by listening to Celine Dion on repeat
>>25704388
The latter.
>>25704325
That would be rad as fuck. The remix better be good though. I actually liked Mega volt. Not as much as volt but it's up there.
>>25704388
By having a decade-long obsession with the RMS Titanic, and then watching that episode for the first time and immediately seeing just how far they went in the visual resemblance.
Seriously. Pic related.
>>25704381
>Still don't trust or have faith on Ash. None, zero.
>>25704387
ALL MY YES
![Pokemon XY&Z Episode 20 - Elle vs. Serena! Open the Door to the Future!!.mp4_snapshot_24.29_[2016.03.24_19.53.41].png](https://i.imgur.com/WzW5t71.jpg "Pokemon XY&Z Episode 20 - Elle vs. Serena! Open the Door to the Future!!.mp4_snapshot_24.29_[2016.03.24_19.53.41].png")
So I honestly think what's happening is that Ash-Greninja is Mega Greninja, there is no "higher form", but because the Pokemon doesn't actually change shape for the most part, the Greninjite doesn't disappear. Is anyone else in agreement?
>>25704424
I'll accept defeat if proven otherwise.
But I think that's highly unlikely considering how he's a milking cow to the executives.
>>25704445
That's terrible because there's no actual stone. It's a limiter of sorts.
>>25704421
Mewtario pls leave
>>25704459
It's really hard to tell if there's an actual stone. Still why would they need a limiter? Greninja took a Blast Burn to the face in XY&Z13 and nothing happened, so it mustn't be that.Also Adamant, if you're watching this thread, batsubs when?
>>25704445
I just think it's another form of mega evolution energy like the primals or zygarde cells. It's not mega evolution at all but it uses the same energy. I think those wrist bands are to measure something. Either made by Clemont or given to him by Alan.
>>25704473
>Also Adamant, if you're watching this thread, batsubs when?
They came out hours ago and are linked in the OP, you retarded chucklefuck.
>>25704473
Fuck. Did not see they were up. Committing suicide now.
>>25704445
Well, we have that new bracelet. Maybe it's a stabilizer or a power up?
>>25704473
Batsubs has been out for awhile mate.
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv.torrent
>>25704473
The limiter's to control the transformation.In the OP you blind bat.
>>25704475
That's actually not a bad theory. But it should be noted that Ash's definitely has a Key Stone in it.
>>25704473
Read the damn OP nigga
>>25704497
>lying on the internet
Greninja has a bracelet too. It's highly likely Ash's and his are connected somehow
>>25704445
I'm wondering if thi basically confirms Clemont helps Ash and Greninja get a better handle on the Ashninja transformation via what is presumably that mega ring sort of thing?
>>25704445
the bracelet probably won't be permanent and it's just a training tool to help ash control ash-greninja
ash-greninja won't become stronger, it will simply learn how to use its 2 most powerful attacks (the giant shuriken and the water blades)
that's all
>>25704497
No, it's empty
>>25704513
I'm still wondering if this is a Clemont invention or if Alan maybe went and told Sycamore/Lysandre about it and they gave him those to study Greninja.
is there a looping gif of Clemont tears like this
it might be useful for next ep
>>25704515
>greninja learns how to use a new form
>learn to use powerful attacks
>doesn't make it stronger
u wot
>>25704524
So, in which episode does he get this?
Do Serena and Ash have this fun? Do Clemont and his waifu make this for him?
Is Ash incapacitated in XY&Z 22 because of something going wrong with this, which prompts Serena totake off and wear his clothes andcommand Pikachu in his absence?
>>25704541
We don't know.
Maybe a present from Alain?
![[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_01.55_[2016.03.25_11.02.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XL55ed6.jpg "[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_01.55_[2016.03.25_11.02.48].jpg")
>>25704535
whoops, forgot image
>>25704541
He literally has it against Alain so maybe as soon as next episode. But I honestly believe either Clemont give to him in the beginning of the Alan episode or Alan gives it to him.
Has anyone got the transparent image of this?
>>25704549
they just met and he's already giving presents to him
is he that thirsty for the ashbowl?
>>25704535
I still remember his tears of joy from seeing the Pokeball Factory in person
>>25704563
Will this do?
>>25704541
>implying he doesn't willingly strip because of things as of late
>>25704353
I think that Ash and Wulfric's third Pokemon will be Noivern and Cryogonal respectively. Because Ash has a fetish for fighting things with Pokemon that are weak to those things even though he has other perfectly good Pokemon. That and he has yet to use Noivern in an actual gym battle.
>>25704556
GOD DAMMIT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. FFS WRITERS DON'T KEEP ME HANGING
>>25704572
I already have that one, sorry.
>>25704564
I'm just speculating.
I think Alain giving him bracelet may be possible 'cause he has access to that kind of technology and he may want to see the true potential of Ash-greninja.
Other hypothesis it's that he'll receive it from Clemont.
>>25704580
>implying they haven't gone farther, with Ash giving her full consent ahead of time to strip him if he's out cold
>>25704591
or maybe edgelord gives it to him
>tfw everyone did better than Elle today
>>25704564
>Ash's first thought is to give it to Serena
>Alain says no goddammit it's for you, while inwardly realizing that he has a LOT of ground to cover to close Serena's lead
>>25704584
I actually think his last pokemon will be Glalie. And I'm still not sure about Noivern since Ash has thought of type advantage every single gym in some way or another. Noivern has nothing going on for it in that regard unless it spams acrobatics against obamasnow.
So you think Ash will pull the device from hammerspace, put it on his wrist, a strap magically appearing, and he will yell "henshin!"?
Never ever
>>25704616
>since XY59, Ash's internal thought process is "receive present -> offer present to waifu"
![[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_04.43_[2016.03.25_11.13.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UTRv0ui.jpg "[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_04.43_[2016.03.25_11.13.46].jpg")
why are they fleeing from an obviously injured guy
>>25704591
I personally think Clemont will give it to him. I mean it is yellow which is Clemont's colour and the fact that he said he would use science to help reveal the mystery of Ashninja makes it even clearer that it's his idea.
>>25704624
>Brendan gave her the bow she's wearing on her head
>>25704616
>it doesn't help that Serena uses Pikachu and Frogadier serves as Serena's bodyguard
>>25704658
>Brendan
who?
>>25704655
is it like a proposal gift
>>25704652
The face and the lightning lighting up his face.
>>25704584
>cryogonal as final mon
>not his regional ace
>not his mega
>cryogonal
>>25704556
According to the list, the Alain episode is on the April 21. The new Coro Coro with the Sun and Moon details is released around the 15, so Ash could be getting the bracelet the episode before the Alain battle to further highlight the possible new mechanic
>>25704679
Yesfrom Greninja to Ash
>>25704617
Glalie? Why would it be Glalie? Not only did Wulfric not use Glalie in his XY gym battle but Glalie isn't even native to Kalos.
>>25704652
Is Serena high?
>>25704621
or how about in 60fps goodness
>>25704698
BecauseI want mega glalie and I really want to see one in the anime again ;_;
>>25704699
she's pretending to suck Ash's dick
>>25704621
>>25704703
>>25704699
High on love.
Or perhaps she just wants to fly.
>>25704692
That would be pretty damn good news since Ash has a reason to keep Greninja in S&M then,
>>25704709
It's going to be in the new movie.
![[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_09.18_[2016.03.25_11.19.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2OHlkzJ.jpg "[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_09.18_[2016.03.25_11.19.39].jpg")
Oh god this is adorable, imma gif this
>>25704714
for a moment I thought it would be like Gaim
>longhair is literally holding her back as shorthair can clock up
also nice to see tokufriends in /padt/
>>25704712
She has good taste.And so does Ash's dick.
>>25704712
>pretending
More like practicing during her off-hours
>>25704733
Where was that image from again?
>>25704724
oh shit, I forgot about that.
Very comfy thread lads
>>25704728
Anon pls
>>25704344
>ash gave her a Beedrill
literally fucking likes her more than anyone
only traded with Dawn
>>25704761
Indeed, reminds me of the week prior to the dance episode.
>>25704624
No ORAS May
Serena likely leaving at the end of the saga
Dawn is dead
Bonnie/Clemont likely leaving too
Seriously, nothing will make this show worth watching after XY ends.
>>25704763
>not posting the translated version
>>25704793
>>25704793
I need more kamen rider references in fanart
>>25704793
And then XY&Z 19 happened.
>>25704805
>>25704714
>Ash tries to repeat the process to get her clothes to cast off
>>25704819
>>25704828
>>25704828
Basically what happened that episode
>>25704766
Anon please. You should know already Serena's taken top spot.
there we go
>>25704823
>HYPER CAST OFF
>>25704828
>Inb4 someone asks for a version with elle.
>>25704624
>tfw I'll never see her boobs again
>tfw when no poke girl sleepover
>tfw the girls won't tease Serena about her crush on Ash
So many fucking wasted opportunities, lads!!!
>>25704828
why is Serena kamen rider garren
do you want her KARADA to be BORABORA DA
>>25704863
>Millefeui and Shauna are at the sleepover
>They're trying their damned hardest to get the other girls into experimentation
>>25704877on on
>>25704877
At what point?
>>25704863
>he got btfo and now resorts to Scott-like lust
well you did it m8
how does it feel to be broken
![[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_15.09_[2016.03.25_11.34.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oQq4HtE.jpg "[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_15.09_[2016.03.25_11.34.41].jpg")
now I'm kinda curious what Noibat was saying to Hawlucha
goddamnit I forgot image
>>25704882
no u
>>25704883
this part
![[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_20.59_[2016.03.25_11.38.08].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vbZPEsd.jpg "[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_017_Thunder_and_Onvern!_A_Furious_Strike_of_Lightning!![H264_720P][BDABE452].mkv_snapshot_20.59_[2016.03.25_11.38.08].jpg")
he takes after from the best
Now I really wish it's a 3v3 on Wulfric and Noivern gets to join in on the fun
>>25704900
>translated from Noibatian which is translated from Spanish
>"WHAT THE FUCK DON'T DO IT SENPAI!"
Part of the meaning got lost in translation.
>>25704497
That bracelet is kore likely to have the same function as Broly's necklace. It sacrifices A LOT of raw power, but makes the transformation more stable and faster.
Sadly, it would be the diabolus ex-machina in Kalos league, because that bracelet will make GreninjAsh a lot weaker than a common mega evolution , but slightly stronger than a final evolved mon.
>>25704898
Fuck off, man.
I really wanted all poke girls to know each other. I wanted them to gossip, to shop together, to become like sisters.
All gone...
>>25704922
League's in the summer and it's gone in the movie, so I doubt it.
>>25704944
>the bracelet is found to just be a placebo
>waifu is the real triggering mechanism
>>25704928
whatever happened to our day of reckoning, eh
whatever became of your bragging
actually nah, I'm not gonna kick a vulnerable man while he's already down, I'm not that much of a douche
just keep in mind you brought this on yourself komrade
>>25704944
Where does it say we will get league in the summer? We only know it's this year. Might aswell be late fall.
>>25704537
well it doesn't get any more physical strength or speed, it just gets more powerful moves
it's not the same
>>25704944
>gone in the movie
>implying it only appears when it's time to transform
>>25704977
I recall it being mentioned on the site.
>>25704978
It does though. Every battle gives experience and more strength.
>>25704733
Every fucking time she shows up I keep thinking they are calling her Milfy.
>>25704992
Pretty sure it only said this year.
Let's talk about Ash's battle with Wulfric
>>25704996
They say
"Mirufi" which would be "Milfy" or if you want French "Millefeui".
>>25705013
Let's tell you to fuck off instead, namefag-kun
>>25705013
Sure if you wasn't a namefag.
so does Shoko just do the movies or has she done stuff for the main series as well
>>25704944
But it's more likely GreninjAsh "shuriken form" is going to be weaker than the "water-covered form" in raw power and defense, but that loss will be compensated with more stability and speed.
So, it would be a lot weaker than a normal mega evo, power-level wise. In a short comparison, Mega evos will be like Super Saiyan full power Goku, GreninjAsh water-covered form is like SSJ2 Gohan and GreninjAsh shuriken-form will be the equivalent to a 20x Kaioken Goku.
>>25705047
Serena's ED theme.
>>25705036
Everyone's a namefag
I have a name, you have a name.
>>25705047
She's done two ending themes for the show, does that count?
>>25705072
>>25705058
yeah I guess that counts
so the voice work is exclusive to the movies then
how many has she done
>>25705053
>water covered form
>not defense and speed
>shuriken form
>not attack and stability
you fucked up
>>25705053
Didn't water-aura Ash-Greninja lose to Mega Charizard? (SSJ2 Gohan losing to SSJ Goku)
>>25705063
/a/ never got rid of them because they bent over. Not doing the same mistake again.
>>25705080
She's been a regular since movie 10, so 8 so far.
Maki in movie 10
Infi in movie 11
Jagged-eared Pichu in movie 12
Proof in movie 13
Shade and Aude in movie 14
Keldeo in movie 15
Sylveon in the movie 16 short
Miriss in movie 17
Mary in movie 18
>>25705111
*10 so far, fuck
>>25705058
And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkpR9odu9t8
>no one remembers Shoko's first Pokemon song
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/B_GKwlg-DTE/
>>25704986
But it's gone even in the transformed state.
>>25705220
I only listed one example using the recent one.
>>25705013
>last pokemon battle isArticuno vs Hawlucha
What is the official name of the DreamDream remix, by the way? I need it for a couple reasons.
>League time
>high-stress battle, Pikachu's on the field, and Ash is edging it out past his opponent in this match
>Serena and the lemons can see from their vantage point that Ash is about to make a crucial strategic error because he doesn't have the view that they do
>Serena yells out over the crowd, "Pikachu, [insert command here]"
>Pikachu follows her orders over Ash's, and gets its ass saved by avoiding something that might have done it in if it had listened to Ash
>yfw XY&Z 22 is meant to set this up
Did we get Serena quoting "NEVER GIVE UP UNTIL THE END!" again today?
New summaries when?
>>25705300
Just ドリドリ
>>25705313
Yes.
Both from her and Elle.
>>25705335
It's named the exact same as the original version?
>>25705345
That's fairly standard procedure for covers, so yeah?
>>25705300
>DreamDream
What the fuck kind of ass did Bulbapedo pull that out off?
>>25705304
>Writers use this as grounds to disqualify Ash from the leagues because fuck him.
>>25705372
>Serena feels absolutely awful
>Ash doesn't like not seeing her happy and does what he can to comfort her
Would the power of hugs even be enough?
>>25705372
>implying
gurkinn got that phone from nowhere wtf
>>25705342
From Elle? I thought that was "Ash's saying".
>>25705389
It was Elle's driving force back before she became queen, too.
>>25705380
>he says it was a learning experience for both of them, and asks if she'd like to join him for another league
>repeat of happy action bastard as this is how he invites her to the next region with him
![Pokemon XY Episode 67 - Miare Gym Match! Satoshi vs. Citron!!.mkv_snapshot_22.49_[2016.03.24_21.21.59].png](https://i.imgur.com/j29YSDx.jpg "Pokemon XY Episode 67 - Miare Gym Match! Satoshi vs. Citron!!.mkv_snapshot_22.49_[2016.03.24_21.21.59].png")
>>25705356
Guess there hasn't really been an actual "cover" in a while. Last one I remember was Dawn's theme. Could've sworn it was named something different on the CD but from what I'm seeing it's not.
>>25705367
Probably from the actual Japanese song lyrics dumbass.
>>25705389
Elle said back in the past. It's still really "ash's because that's who she's taking it from.
>>25705414
>Ash's
By "she" I mean Serena.Elle sounds like she had her own Ash.
>>25705406
>lyrics depart from standards one single time
>they render every single "dori" as "dream"
>translate ドリドリドリームパワー as "DreamDreamDream Power"
That's fucking retarded and missing the entire point hilariously badly.
>>25705424
Oh gosh. That's an interesting theory.
>>25705432
Okay? Just because they didn't translate the song perfectly doesn't mean that "DoriDori" can't be roughly translated as "DreamDream". There's 2 points in each chorus that state otherwise.
>>25705467
>all this Millefeui talk about progress to Serena so late in the series.
>>25705469
You can't say ドリ "roughly" translates to "dream" when ドリーム is used many times in the lyrics as what ドリ is short for. Go back to Bulbapedo and wank them off there.
>>25705467
>>25705495
>>25705516
HEY, GUESS WHAT?
FUCK PIPLUP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPaWZVCC6Eo
>>25705516
>she walks in between him and Serena
>Ash Vision punches an imaginary hole through her, through which he can see Serena
why the heck is with all these miette pics!?
>>25705495
>there was progress to the point that Millefeui noticed and it happened over the course of a few days
>>25705551
>Miette
>>25705504
What else can you expect from Bulbapedo, really?
>>25705563
>"Hey viewers"
>>25705551
The Animal I've Become
![Pokemon XY&Z Episode 20 - Elle vs. Serena! Open the Door to the Future!!.mp4_snapshot_22.44_[2016.03.24_21.37.01].png](https://i.imgur.com/L7ckBBq.jpg "Pokemon XY&Z Episode 20 - Elle vs. Serena! Open the Door to the Future!!.mp4_snapshot_22.44_[2016.03.24_21.37.01].png")
>>25705504
I'm not wanking off Bulbapedo. You can see right here, "DreamDream" is used as a word for ドリドリ in the actual song. DreaDrea or DoriDori sounds weird to say for English-speaking people as neither of those are words, but "DreamDream" makes sense. Think of it like this, the song "XY&Z" is pronounced "Ekkusu Wai ando Zetto", but in the song, "いくZ" is not pronounced "Iku zetto" but "Iku ze", despite the fact that the character "Z" would usually be pronounced "zetto".Also I'm glad we're having this argument. I'm getting my folder filled up with Serena images.
>>25705469
>using roughly translate as a defense
The song's title is DreaDrea, the proper translation
why "rough translate" when there's a proper one
>>25705571
>all those Millefeuifag fantasies about being noticed by Smug came true that day
>>25705584
Oh, was the song name actually romanized as "DreaDrea" by the uh... people who make the anime or whatever? Or is it just Adamant who said that? You guys must remember, even though Bulbapedia is commonly wrong, that doesn't make its opposition perfect either.
>>25705581
Yes, it is.
And ドリ is also used as the first half of ドリーム RIGHT before that. It's even in your screenshot.
It's like saying ポケモン "roughly translates to Pocket Monsters" and translating that first line in the movies as "Pocket Monsters, or Pocket Monsters for short".
Huh, I realized in last ep's ED they put the blue ribbon scene.
>>25705610
>literally pulling ad hominem
Wait a second, so in the most concise possible terms, what is it that Serena told Yashio before they left each other?
I just had a thought, but I'm wondering if the wording of Serena's reply supports it.
>>25705610
Dude, we're talking about the first two syllables of a four-syllable word here and you're saying it should be translated as the full word despite the full word being used in the lyrics too.
Specifically AS the full word of the previous shortform at that.
>>25704268
Anyone have the 320 kbps version of doridori sung by serena?
>>25705655
In
The
OP
>>25705637
Check Sushi's tumblr she answered this
>>25705670
>Even Sushi doesn't have any faith in Amour.
>>25705618
I understand what you mean by that. But DreamDream is still pronounced as ドリドリ in the song. It can go either way. I just choose to say that ドリドリ = DreamDream because it makes more sense from an English speaker's standpoint.
>>25705632
It's not ad hominem. You're calling Adamant's translations "official" when in reality they're just as official as BP's.
>>25705645
Yes but there's also a double standard there. ドリドリ is translated by Adamant at one point as "DreaDrea" and at another point as "DreamDream". It's just more consistent in my opinion to translate it as "DreamDream" both times. I see your guys' argument and I'm not saying Adamant's translation is wrong, it can be argued either way. I just prefer DreamDream as a more consistent and English-friendly name.
![[SOFCJ-Raws] Pocket Monsters XY&Z - 19 (TVA 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.09_[2016.03.17_12.43.09].png](https://i.imgur.com/pqcHARr.jpg "[SOFCJ-Raws] Pocket Monsters XY&Z - 19 (TVA 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.09_[2016.03.17_12.43.09].png")
>>25705702
She's mad homoscience is getting sunk soon
>>25705610
>m-muh Adamant
Perhaps you should age a bit more before posting here, considering you still believe in the boogeyman. Don't need the likes of Adamant to prove a Bulbafaggot wrong.
>>25704473
There is no stone on the bottom right picture, it's not Mega Greninja.
>>25704541
I believe he'll get it sometime near the end of the Serena/Pikachu episode and then use it for the first time against Alan the episode after, or he'll get it at the midpoint of the VS Alan episode after possibly failing to activate sychro.
>>25704563
It's been on my to do list for awhile now, I'll get around to it eventually.
>>25705711
no one brought up adamant outside of you faggot
Adamant didn't even mention anything about DreaDrea
>>25705138
Is it just me, or do her eyes look dead inside at 0:48 into the video? Looks like she's phoning, if not on suicide watch
>>25705711
>I just choose to say that ドリドリ = DreamDream because it makes more sense from an English speaker's standpoint.
>translating the shortform as the full word makes more sense
>when both the shortform AND the full word are used next to each other
>and the usage makes it clear that the former is a shortform
That's not how anything works. Do you say "Pocket Monsters" instead of Pokemon too?
>>25704286
>when you nut butSerenastill sucking
>>25705670
... Okay, yeah, that translation supports my thought.
I think Serena's using Yashio's card as a fallback. If she reaches the end of the road with Ash, and Ash either doesn't return her affections or doesn't invite her along to the next region, then the card becomes her alternative route.
I'm starting to think that this might be what Serena meant about her journey feeling unfinished, and calling her after her journey is finished. After all, if Ash invites her along or leaves her behind, then that'd finish her journey. Otherwise, her journey would never be finished.
Ahunno, I just had that thought and thought it'd be interesting to share.
>>25705713
I mean, she said what most of us have probably thought for a long time. That if you're in love with Ash, you're fucked because he'll never view you as anything more than a friend.
>>25705730
Okay. Who was it that came up with "DreaDrea" then? It's used in PM's subs so I can only assume it was Adamant that came up with it.
>>25705742
I also stated at a later point that ドリドリ is translated by Adamant as "DreaDrea" once and "DreamDream" at another point. The exact same Japanese pronunciation and characters means two different things to you. I just think my viewpoint is a bit more consistent.
>>25705766
Filename related:
>>25704736
>>25704286
It's syncro fucking Ash like when Greninja got Blast Burned like we expected Ash to get hurt.
>>25705771
Well, the thing about that even being a fallback is that it wouldn't really work as Ash invited her along in the first place.
As for feelings, that's where you've been getting development from and why you have Millefeui talking about progress.
>>25705712
Such a shitwrecking team, only writer cockblocks defeat him
>>25705664
the OP is an AAC file you retard i am asking for a 320 kbps version that's in mp3 i can't read it on my itunes
>>25705771
>>25705771
Not sure how Ash would return her affections when she hasn't been willing to let him know her true feelings. The ball is in her court.
But realistically, she wants to be there to support Ash in the league like Dawn did after the GF, when she declined Zoey's offer to join her celebration of being a Top Coordinator. It was said earlier today, but it will ultimately come down to Serena struggling to choose her goal or Ash, and Ash will push her to the former cue promise to see each other again and blah blah.
>>25704325
Not this soon. Many of the events of the current opening (Mega Sceptile vs. Ash-Greninja, Zygarde Complete Forme saving Kalos, Wulfric) haven't even come to pass in the anime yet. I can see them changing a few scenes for the Kalos League and that's it.
>>25705778
That would have been the case until you've gotten stuff like the date episode and the likes.
>>25705805
We know Ash would invite her along, but she can't be certain, which is why she'd be hugely relieved that Yashio wasn't slamming the door in her face. Thus, the happiness at having the business card.
Guys
what if
hear me out
What if the bracelet is Clemont's final gift to Ash before he departs with Apple-chan
>>25705793
>I also stated at a later point that ドリドリ is translated by Adamant as "DreaDrea" once and "DreamDream" at another point.
That's because the typed, Japanese lyrics do the same thing, you moron. The translation translates ドリドリ as "DreaDrea" and "DreamDream" as "DreamDream".
The two are pronounced the same, but they're not written the same way.
>>25705842
Indeed it is in her court, and indeed she does need to confess. That's why she told Yashio that her journey feels unfinished: she doesn't have closure on the reason she left her house to begin with.
>>25705865
Do we see Clemont, or even Bonnie, in any episode preview for post-XY&Z 21?>yfw Clemont is in the movie because the town gave him a boner and his waifu is letting him have his own little getaway
>>25705842
You have this thing where Ash just treats Serena differently in general. Sure she'd have to confess but looking at the track record of things it's been Ash who seems to actually make the moves.
>>25705871
>Ash told her to fucking do it
>Serena told Yashio she still has something she needs to do
I-Is it actually happening?
>>25705842
I honestly wonder if Serena going off with Yashio can be done in no more than a 3 month timeskip and then have her travel with Ash again. I mean there's no reason to assume she has to stay with her for years or something.
>>25705883
This picture is from XY&Z24.
>>25705901
>they officially adopted Bonnie
>>25705907
All my want
>>25705897
Considering Elle had Fennekin training with Yashio then XY21 it was still a Fennekin, then it isn't until XY40 that it's a Braixen, it doesn't sound like a long training time. A third of a region really.
>>25705865
he's in the movie for god's sake calm down
>>25705887
>Confesses and gets densed by Ash
>You need to be heart broken not loving anyone so you can be a product to deceive the masses
>This is the true meaning of being Kalos Queen
It hurts
>>25705670
What is her tumblr again? Kinda hard to look for a nickname named "sushi".
Why is there not a batch for the XY season with PM subs? It would be so much more convenient. Can anybody get to it?
>>25705938
evidentlyfishy
>>25705951
Because Adamant is a faggot.
>>25705931
>implying he wouldn't get it if told clearly
>>25705897
She has to stay in Kalos, and given it's happening so close to the end of the series she'll have to part with Ash.
>>25705951
it would be like 100 fucking gigs
so I'm assuming this Pikachu like every other Pikachu will be voiced by Ohtani
>>25705974
He actually brought up a good point considering >>25705916.
>>25705974
Don't people think the Sun/Moon games have a connection to Kalos? Its quite possible Serena and her goal could continue into it just with another design change. As seen with BW they don't always take the female lead of the games, they can probably just have a Gen 7 Gym leader travel with them for the token new companion.
We're probably seeing the end of Bonnie/Clemont though no matter what.
>>25705897
>>25705916
If she failed to become Kalos Queen on second try she'd just try again; if she actually succeeded, she'd have anything but time to travel on her own, and then to stay until somebody better arrives, and that is assuming she won't just git even gudder. And, of course, chances are she'll just get brainwashed to forget about her past and just keep living her dream.
>>25705976
What are you talking about? Ohtani only voices Ash's Pikachu in the anime.
I'm glad ash will be fighting diantha again. Even if he loses, we'll be able to see just how far he's gotten since fighting her in the early days. Pikachu nearly lost after getting hit by one shadow ball while greninja so effortlessly knocks shadow ball away in the preview
>>25705976
>yfw this guy wants to reward Serena for beating his Pikachu with another Pikachu, and upon learning that she doesn't have one of her own, he gives Serena his
>>25705999
>And, of course, chances are she'll just get brainwashed to forget about her past and just keep living her dream.
>motivation is literally something from the past
Anon please. You say that as if Ash wouldn't have contact with her.
>not realizing we have a shitposter who uses shit from bulbapedia
>>25705990
And after her training, she'd strive for Kalos Queen again, and again until she wins. That's why Serena will ultimately choose her goal over Ash in the end.
>>25705931
>Serena finds that Ash doesn't quite understand what it means to love someone, so she breaks it down into a piece-by-piece list of traits and things that she feels around him
>Ash says that it matches how he's been feeling around her, especially lately
