>CALL OFF YOUR DRAGON!!!
>>25640863
Which one, they're both counted as a dragon.
The ending of this was fucking overkill! There was no reason for Red and Charizard to be killed off, well actually not even killed, fucking OBLITERATED out of existence!
saw it coming.
>>25640901
Death Battle usually does over do it.
>>25640863
Charizard is flying lizard.
Shouldn't Charizard be strong against a metal digimon, you know fire > steel?
>>25640922
M Charizard X is a dragon M Charizard Y is the flying lizard
>tai begs red not to hurt wargreymon
>as soon as he gets the upper hand he kills red's charizard...and red
>>25640901
It was goofy from the start, besides Tai is a lot older now, why would he be picking a fight with a kid?
I bet they didn't watch the Digimon anime
>>25640966
Technically, Wargreymon is Fire. The steel stuff is armor, armor that is built to kill dragons and -dramon digimon.
>>25640992
They managed to make Digimon fans look bad even though Wargreymon won. They could have done it in a less cringeworthy way at least.
>>25640966
Charizard X is the results of evolutionary DNA mutation from Mega Stones, were evolutionary stones that were irradiated by the power of Xerneas and Yveltal that was fired from the ultimate weapon.
>>25641036
I see that, I remember watching Wargreymon getting his armor cracked and destroyed several times during the anime so I can see that. Would Wargreymon be part fighting then?
>>25640992
Tai is such a combat pragmatist
>>25641076
WarGreymon is Vaccine and Fire type.
>>25641076
I don't remember that happening a lot in the show. It happened in the movies though.
I unironically think Goku V Superman deathbattle was the only good one ˙͜>˙
>>25640863
this is some of the most autistic shit.
What is wrong with all of you.
go to /f/ for fan fiction.
>>25642426
:^)
>>25640901
Its literally called "DEATH BATTLE" you mongoloid
>>25640863
That was fucking gay.
>Charizard is distracted
>Only reason he lost
Thats not biased or anything.
>>25642426
You realise you're on the third most autistic board on the worlds most autistic .org website, right? You didn't just get lost on your way to facebook right?
>>25642560
Come on. There isn't a fucking pokemon in existence that could stand up to MOST Mega level digimon.
They said it themselves, the increase in power for digimon is just too crazy compared to the slight boosts pokemon get.
It'd be like a normal Dinosaur trying to take on Godzilla, or a circus strongman trying to take on Superman.
>>25642729
Hence why it was stupid I was saying biased towards pokemon.
Charizard had to be distracted for War Greymon to win. When digimon are supposed to be power houses.
We all knew Digimon would win so why make it seem like Pokemon are more powerful then they are? The whole video it was unnecessary.
>>25641561
Masaru would have punched Charizard. He might have even won.
>>25642905
He would win he punched a VenomVademon and caused a domino effect killing 4 of them
>>25642560
>The battles are just a representation of what could happen in a DB scenario, but the data is what really matters.
In other words, MEGA Digimon > Any Pokemon that isn't at least a Legendary.
If they wanted an equalish battle, then they should put Manaphy vs MarineAngemon. Even then...
>>25642905
>>25642990
not this meme again
he isn't really super strong, his punches are only powerful against digimon
>there are people who think charizard had a chance at winning
>>25642522
It should be called FANFIC BULLSHIT BATTLE.
I wish there was a way for them to get sued by the character creators or the company that owns the franchise they belong.
>>25642729
You could say it would be like Toph taking on Gaara! Boy that would be dumb.
Hey you could have gotten worse it could have been done by cartoon fight club.
>>25647071
>I wish there was a way for them to get sued by the character creators or the company that owns the franchise they belong.
>being this autistic
Jesus Christ, calm the fuck down, sperglord
>>25647105
>I suck so much cock I enjoy this edgy fanfic shit xD
>>25647150
You mad your shit character lost?
Let me guess your one of the goku supporters that's still butthurt goku lost to superman even if he didn't have a chance in the first place.
>>25647093
that fight was complete shit
>>25647169
>Reminder that they claimed Toph beat Gaara
>>25647150
I don't even know what video OP's pic is from, your comment was just that autistic.
>>25642298
It happened when piemon was kicking his ass
>>25640885
Only Mega Charizard X is a dragon and WarGreymon isn't a Dramon, he's a Dramon Killer.
>>25640992
This.
>>25647169
If you're a digimon fan why the fuck are you on /vp
>>25647169
More like how they made Tai win is the problem. Tai doesn't cry for mercy. I think it was insulting for Digimon fans
>>25647071
Do you people like anything? Fucking christ.
Literally their only good one was Godzilla vs. Gamera, fight me faggots
I don't care that Charizard lost, everybody in the Pokemon world loses at some point. It was the way characters were portrayed that was garbage
>>25647776
Raiden v Wolverine.
>>25647071
>I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!1!1
Do the world a favor and end your life.
Reminder that they can't even do basic researchaka type in synthesis un bulbapedo/serebii
>>25647815
>25%
>Basing facts on morning/night from gen 2
Why. It was better in gen 3, where in sunny conditions it restored 66.6%
>>25647698
I suggest you do better research. It is classified as Dragon Man. It's even normally grouped with the other dragon digimon. Dramon Killer is just it's gauntlets. It's a dragon that can kill other dragons.
Death Battle is shit, more at eleven
>>25647815
i remember in the buu vs kirby they had ,,is friends with janemba'' like janemba is a movie villain and not even cannon and they never met
>>25647776
Eggman vs Wily
>>25647776
Snake vs Sam
>>25647071
Did you even SEE the Dante v Bayonetta death battle? Even the CREATOR OF BAYONETTA GOT SALTY.
>>25647925
proof
>>25647925
No he didn't. A long time ago the creator of Dante AND Bayonneta said Bayo was stronger. Problem with that is the only dante he has any authority over is DMC 1 dante.
>>25647925
It should be clarified he is also the creator of Dante.
>>25642560
Dude, Charizard X is literally as fast as Miltank.
There was no way it was going to win.
>>25647938
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/710117717097877504
Like I don't know
I LOVE Digimon even to this day, and WarGreymon would definitely have won; all the gore is not to my taste but I guess "Death" Battle does what it says on the tin
What really grinds my gears is that it also says on the tin "Charizard vs Greymon" not "Charmander line vs Agumon line". Yeah whoopdee shit they can transform; it's not about that. Who would win in a straight fight? Seems Death Battle always pull dumb shit like that like OH WELL IN LITERALLY ONE COMIC THAT ISN'T CANON, SUPERMAN BECAME GOD SO IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME HE FIGHTS GOKU
Like yeah okay cool see you later I'm going to actually do something with my time and not give a fuck what some rednecks getting paid by shitty clickbait websites think
>>25647907
>Doomguy can run 50 mph
>doesn't even use that in the fight.
Honestly, it would be more interesting to see if MasterChief ever actually fought anything that fast.
Seriously, Doomguy can run 50 MPH, and can stop/change directions on a dime.
It should have been a speedster vs tank match, with Doomguy's speed countering the grenades and holoshield, but MasterChief's armor and weapons countering everything else.
>>25647991
Thats how it would have been if they had made it today.
I prefer this Tai to the teenager in Tri who is terrified of the collateral damage from evolving agumon.
>>25647925
It just fact brah
>Bayonetta 1 ends with Bayo hairpunching a giant god monster across the solar system and into the sun
>but hurrhurr Dante gets stabbed a lot and survives so he wins xD
>>25648046
>Digimon fights cause collateral damage on accident!
>Somehow I shouldn't start one to stop a digimon who's rampaging and who wants to cause far more destruction that the fight will cause!
>>25647071
>>25647925
you know what's even funnier? Their own research team said Bayo stomps Dante
http://www.screwattack.com/post/51257255
>>25648075
Really, the battle went down to "regenerative abilities" as well as "Hurr durr dante's part demon while bayonetta is merely human"
>>25648080
He doesn't want to carry the blame. same shit as Mimi but he has better self control.
>>25648081
Top lol. They must've made dante win due to him losing against ragna in One Minute Melee (and they added Dante to that because Ragna lost to Sol Badguy, and desu that was easily Sol's fight due to Ragna being... generally quite shit in comparison)
Charmander = Agumon
Charizard = Greymon
Mega Charizard = MetalGreymon
Mega level Digimon are roughly on par with legendary Pokemon in terms of destructive power. Anything else would need a significant advantage in the matchup to stand a reasonable chance. Digimon, on average, operates on a higher power level.
>>25648110
This whole post.
Fucking koromon could probably whoop Charmander's ass.
I think you don't really understand just how ridiculous Digimon powerlevels are.
>>25648110
Most legendary pokemon would be stomped by ultimates. Though I expect a shitty mega like Imperialdramon to lose to pokemon.
>>25648110
>Mega level Digimon are roughly on par with legendary Pokemon in terms of destructive power.
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>>25648110
>Mega level Digimon are roughly on par with legendary Pokemon in terms of destructive power.
/thread
>>25647169
I'm not mad at all, I was rooting for Digimon from the beginning because it was obvious Digimon would win and I like WarGreymon better. That doesn't make this, or any other Death Battle any less stupid and edgy.
>>25647723
Because I also like Pokemon.
>>25648144
I think Imperialdramon is supposed to be more powerful than that, even on it's Dragon form. It's just that 02 didn't show it on the best of terms. I'm convinced Fighter Mode is on the same level as Omnimon, but not the same tier, no. Omnimon is still more powerful.
>>25648081
I think it's part of the recent trend of "Can this character even kill the other" The biggest example was in the Ryu vs Scorpion.
Doesn't matter how tough you are, you can't actually kill Scorpion. You have to actually go after his soul to do anything. Ryu's only tool (the raging demon) wasn't that effective against Scorpion.
The same with Raiden v Wolverine. Wolverine would have won, but Raiden had a trump.
In Lex Luthor v Tony Stark, Lex didn't have anything that could trump Tony's ubersuit.
What I would love is for them to take a specific character, from a specific game, and have them fight a character from a similar game, using that game's mechanics. In the Ryu v Scorpion, they would take their actual game statistics from their most recent incarnations. Take the actual numbers, translate them into some sort of equal footing, and look at them there. For example, Ryu's standing light punch has a 3 frame startup, deals X damage, at Y distance, with Z priority. Scorpion's kunai takes X frames to start up, and has this much hit-stun. Ryu can jump 6 feet in the air, with an airspeed of etc. Ryu has whatever HP in SFV, and Scorpion has whatever hp in MKX. Translating that, we can see how Ryu has more/less health than Scorpion.
Sort of how they did it with the Pokemon rumble.
>>25648167
Honestly, I knew digimon were going to win. However, they downplayed charizard to the point of absolute bullshittery.
I mean, really. Aerial ace?
>>25648154
I don't get it
>>25648178
Imperialdramon jobbed harder than ever in Tri. Even Togemon bullied it for awhile and it didn't destroy Gomamon in 4 attacks.
>>25648110
Metal Greymon == Regirock in terms of "destructive power?"
>>25648185
>I think it's part of the recent trend of "Can this character even kill the other" The biggest example was in the Ryu vs Scorpion.
they address that and still think Bayo would win
>>25648205
They were blowing a single episode of the anime out of proportion. Charizard, prior to Mega Evolution existing, went toe to toe with Articuno, one of the legendary birds from Gen 1, and won.
Articuno is weak anyway, but because it's legendary, he probably thought he'd be funny.
>>25648185
>Wolverine would have won, but Raiden had a trump.
>trump
>>25648207
I don't know. I was thinking of something like when the Dark Masters saga began, and they were able to take on the same monster with less effort, even without digivolving. They're so high level by now that if that was an ordinary Imperialdramon, of course they'd stand a better chance against it. If we were talking base power rookies and champions, then yes, Imperialdramon should've killed them in one shot.
>>25648231
I sometimes forget people still watch the anime. Thanks anon.
>>25648237
The high-frequency blade was the only way Raiden would've kill Wolverine. Without it, it would have been literally impossible. Even if Wolverine sat there and took every attack Raiden had, he would be able to regenerate.
>>25648283
Doesn't make it cheap though, does it?
He got the high frequency blade from Sam, and used it to it's full potential. Much like how Wolverine got his claws enhanced via adamantium.
However, I think in this scenario they wanted to prove that they aren't just all "Oh yes, he has regenerative powers whilst he doesn't therefore wolverine wins" because that's just factual and cheap shit.
>>25648350
I'm just saying its kind of boring. From the outset, there is only the question of "Can the indestructable character be killed by anything the other character has?"
Death Battle is literally the most retarded thing to exist in the history of mankind.
>>25647955
>what is dragon dance?
>>25640901
>There was no reason for Red and Charizard to be killed off
Death Battles only end in death. That's why they are called "DEATH Battles."
>>25648463
In most cases, that is what they apply. In some cases, ie Sam v Snake, it's "Who has the better support" in this case being Ocelot pretty much owning his way through their security system and therefore Sam was in the dark.
>people actually take these videos very seriously
I hate them cause they are kind of cringey as hell, but good lord, the reaction people get to these videos is astounding.
>>25641012
They went with Adventure Tai, who had accessed all of Agumon's forms by that point. Why would they need to go with Adventure 02 or even Tri Tai?
>>25648544
Chuck Norris v Segata Shanshiro.
Who the fuck even asked for this? Anyone fairly familiar with the series know Digimon are on a whole different level.
Only normie epic xd fags that remember watching episodes of the animes back then would think this is cool. Not only it was unfair but it made Taichi look like an ass.
>>25648541
A move it did not know.
>>25648185
Raiden shouldn't have won, because let's be honest, Raiden is practically the same as a Sentinel, just tiny and with some katana. Wolverine massacres Sentinels to the point that he could be arrested for Sentinel genocide. Raiden realistically wouldn't survive more than 10 seconds against Wolverine.
>>25647879
But it's not a Dramon.
Birdramon is a Dramon.
Cyberdramon is a Dramon.
MetalSeadramon is a Dramon.
Ebidramon is a Dramon
Commandramon is a Dramon.
WarGreymon is not a Dramon.
He would be if his name was WarGreydramon. Dramon need "Dramon" in their name to be Dramon.
>>25648603
I think you're forgetting the fact that Raiden took down his fair share of MG's in the series.
>With some katana.
Let's see here.
Angry little man with no purpose in life has claws that get rekt easily when coming into contact "with some katana".
>>25648603
That katana is essentially Wolverine's kryptonite.
>>25648626
Nothing I've ever seen counts Birdramon as a dragon.
>>25648684
Not a dragon, a Dramon.
>>25648684
>>25648691
And that's all that matters. She's classified as a Dramon and has Dramon in her name thus she's a Dramon.
I bet you (84) whine about Altaria's Dragon typing because "It's just a dopey bird!"
>>25648603
His Katana is functionally a lightsaber.
>>25648656
According to one throw-away line from an ancient comic that may or may not apply to Raiden's sword.
>>25648721
It showed that Adamantium is weak to vibrations. That's all that Raiden neede.
>>25648691
I don't understand what the argument is. Dramon clearly does not mean dragon. Does that mean that is not what the Dramon Killers do? I don't know, but here is a nice tidbit from WarGreymon's desc: The "Dramon Killers" equipped to both of its arms exhibit immense power against Dramon-type Digimon, while simultaneously being double-edged swords that put its own life at great risk. This implies that indeed, it could destroy another WarGreymon with it's own weapons. We have a misnomer somewhere and I don't know where it is.
>>25648767
It might just be that using the Dramon Killers is dangerous to the user, no matter what type of Digimon they are.
>>25648721
This. It's likely non-canon, and thus invalid.
>>25648721
>Ancient comic.
>It actually exists.
>>25648791
The argument was if the high-frequency blade could cut adamantium. Which pretty much turned the tide of the battle. The comic does in fact exist, and they got the proof they needed of it. Even I've read the comic and know who she is, so. You can't just "call bullshit" on minor marvel characters kek.
>>25648784
Well, there's no evidence that using the Dramon Killers drains WarGreymon in any way. I've never seen anything try to make it hit itself with them, nor do I know of any situation in which something else used the Dramon Killers. Basically, it's inconclusive.
>>25648852
Bullshit can be called if the Marvel writers would consider it not canon. Therefore, it cannot be considered adequate evidence or research.
Is there anything in Digimon that could counter the strongest pokemon? I mean Arceus, Palkia/Dialga/Giratina, Weather trio, etc.
>>25648965
Digimon are in a much higher league to be honest.
>>25648979
Well, there are a handful of things that could transition realities, although with the way Dialga and Palkia are described, it would mean they can create multiple realities, so I'm not sure. Giratina may still be able to match it, since it counters all forms of reality to start with. I know of nothing beyond that, though, or at least it's made extremely vague.
>>25648979
But there are pokemon that are literal gods, are there actually stronger digimon? I've never actually watched the series.
>>25648965
The only Pokemon that might have a chance against the strongest Digimon is Victini - and even then only if we take the Pokedex at face valuewhich you should never do
>Magcargo is hotter than the sun
>>25647776
Goomba vs Koopa. Step up senpai
>>25640992
Didn't agumon have the type disadvantage as soon as it went metal
At least we all agree that Peach vs. Zelda is acceptable
>>25649486
you know anon, if the powerdifference is big enough type disadvantages mean jack-shit
I mean, Primal Kyogre has the type disadvantage against Sunkern
>>25649552
Digimon don't even act on type alignments as we understand them. It is strictly who has more power and/or skill than the other.
>>25649597
never stopped Screwattack from attaching pokemon types to non-Pokemon, see Blanca vs Pikachu
>>25649502
This is bait, isn't it?
>>25647925
Good, fuck Kamiya.
>>25648564
>Who the fuck even asked for this? Anyone fairly familiar with the series know Digimon are on a whole different level.
>implying thought goes into matchups
This is the same group of people that want to entertain Frieza Vs. Mewtwo, who do you think you're dealing with here?
>>25647971
Isn't this the faggot that spams his rules of what to tweet him everyday?
>>25648110
>Mega level Digimon are roughly on par with legendary Pokemon in terms of destructive power.
You actually don't believe this right?
>>25649597
The only thing that really sticks is evolution level. I know that most digimon won't battle digimon who are one evolution level above them (Champion vs Ultimate, Ultimate vs Mega). Some digimon are the exception to this
>>25649114
When he said that digimon are in a higher league, he actually meant it. Digimon can go from from simple city destroyers when they are rookies to continent busters in a evolution. A legendary pokemon has no chance against an ultimate or mega evolved digimon
>>25651622
Levels in Digimon seem to on a magnitude scale compared to pokemon's additive scale
can we have a discussion about how digimon series is way more superior than pokemon without mentioning >muh power level
>>25651622
Arceus can make new universes. Once a digimon gets to that level, then you can talk.
>>25651672
ZeedMilleniummon can move through space and time.
The only exception I'm aware of is that angel and demon related digis all have power equivalent of one level above them. Megas themselves seem to have a complex sorting algorithm that differs depending on who you ask, even if they are the same number evo state. Mega starts at the 6th evo state and goes on beyond that. All form changes count as an evo state, and some Megas can evolve to other Megas. I am willing to suggest that there are 4 Mega states, as far as I'm willing to map it. (6,7,8, and 9 for reference) There may be a digi that has more states than that.
>>25651672
What about ZeedMillenniummon?
>>25651728
so can dialga, palkia, and celebi
>>25651740
But again, I strongly advise discretion. Even these states may have a lot of variance.
>>25651672
Yggdrasil is Universe Level
Chronomon Holy Mode can potentiolly kill Yggdrasil
Omnimon X can recreate everything including Yggdrasil
>>25651672
Name: ZeedMillenniummon
Origin: Digimon
Gender: Male
Age: Unknown
Classification: Evil God Digimon, Mega/Ultimate level
Powers and Abilities: Super strength, flight/levitation, time manipulation, teleportation, intangibility, transmutation, telepathy, dimensional/universsal manipulation, governs all space and time, can consign his opponents to the gulf beyond space-time and has a Fractal Code to negate his powers, etc.
Weaknesses: His seal negates his full/true power.
Destructive Capacity: Multiverse level+
Range: Multiversal
Speed: At least Massively FTL, somewhat Omnipresent (however it is limited in some aspects)
Durability: Multiverse level
Strength: Class 100+
Stamina: Infinite
Intelligence: Knowledge of many universes, including the past and future. He's shown motives that suggest significant foresight, he is brilliantly intelligent in his plots. He is also a member of Gaia Origin (Digimon World: Dawn/Dusk).
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
- Fallen Hell: Makes a dark portal which pulls everything around him into a "chaos world" and putting the whole universe into total darkness.
- Chrono Paradox: Fires two atomic rays out of his mouths that destroy everything in their way and can destroy a whole universe in a single shot.
- Time Destroyer: Sends his enemies to the other side of space-time.
>>25651751
Unless they can obliterate universes with a single attack and being immortal they ain't got shit on him
>>25651806
Oh... well shit nevermind. Arceus BTFO
>>25651806
Didn't Imperialdramon Paladin Mode supposedly defeat Zeed?
>>25651844
Digimon power levels are bullshit.
>>25651863
When was that?
>>25651863
There is only one thing I know of that has defeated it. Ryo's Cyberdramon, and that was by absorbing it into itself.
>>25651821
I was just mentioning the travelling through space/time part, because that was what was mentioned. by >>25651728
>>25640863
Shit video
Charizard should have lost right away against Greymon
>>25642560
>People are still retarded enough to think the actual visual battle means anything
>>25648965
Any digimon ever above champion level.
>>25651664
But this is the pokemon board. You cant have that opinionI agree
>>25647776Rainbow Dash vs. Starscream
>>25640863
Ash would have killed tai with his bare hands in the same scenario,you know this to be true
>>25652988
Ash is a pussy faggot that needs his slaves to do anything
>>25647776
That was one of the few I had a huge problem with.
>>25653793
Why?
>>25653776
Yeah he's pretty weak without his pokemon
>>25648562
I know this is late but fucking really? Both have shown to essentially be INVINCIBLE in strengths and abilities, so it was clear they couldn't kill each other, they were evenly matched. Besides, it was just a joke battle in it's own right. Give me another example than that (although it's been a while since I seen most of the older ones now), every other DB you DIE in it, end of story.
Digimon Evolutions are on a far grander scale than Pokemon Evolutions.
Most Pokemon need to evolve twice to become merely 2x as powerful as they were.
Most Digimon grow exponentially more powerful with each evolution.
The power creep is far more real in Digimon. That's why it won.
>>25653776
Although Tai would trump Ash, not agree with that other anon there, but Gen 1 Ash DID try to fight a Pokemon (or towards a human, Idk, I just remember he tried to pick a physical fight in a world when no one does this apparently), so at the very most Gen 1 Ash could have fought back instead of taking it like a bitch. But other than that, yeah, agrees pass Gen 2.
I'm not saying Wargreymon shouldn't have won, I'm just saying Charizard should have put up way more of a fight.
In Gen 6 Ash jumped off the Pokemon world's equivalent of the Eiffel Tower to save his Pikachu from falling. Slid down a steep slope to get a dried up Goomy to a river. Jumped over a freaking volcano to catch his Fletchinder/Talonflame after it got blasted by Moltres.
To say Ash doesn't have balls without his Pokemon is to sorely underestimate him.
>>25654333
You're kidding right?
Digimon is on an entirely different level to pokemon.
I think the only pokemon to reach the level of an ultimate in the entirety of the series is shadow mewtwo.
>>25647955
Well if we use pokedex entry's and the base stats of Pokemon we can see that they are actually very fast for instance Frogadier can move 2,000 feet in one minute, so logic would say that any Pokemon with the same amount of speed or higher should be able to move faster and Frogdier has a base speed of 97 which means MANY Pokemon can move extremely fast by comparison
>>25651748
People aways bring this guy up but didn't he die? How did that happen if he's so unbelievably powerful even compared to other digimon
>>25654458
He doesn't die the only way to stop him is to undo his evolution in Xros Wars manga or force a DNA/Jogress in the Ryo games
>>25654498
Wasn't Cyberdramon purged of his influence after becoming Justimon or something like that?
>>25654458
>die
He didn't die he went with his destined partner, Ryo.
>>25642564
nope. you can project all you want but calling a website of maybe at WORST nerdy people autistic because you're autistic and you want to fit in is pathetic.
>>25654498
What exactly were his powers again I forget
>>25654604
High level time space warper.
Also some degree of evil influence seeing as he's the reason Ken turned evil.
>>25654604
Being unable to die, time and space fuckery, being an unstoppable god stu
>>25654542
No if Ryo's not careful Cyberdramon can potentially turn back into him. Its why he's never allowed to digivolve.
>>25642729
Bullshit, Pokemon attacks are elemental manipulation. Their physical forms and agility would be their only hinderance in a fight against a good number of digimon. But digimon do the same thing as pokemon, only on average on a bigger scale.
I bet a fucking sandslash could beat Wargreymon. Here's the distinctive difference, Digimon is about the creature itself's raw power. the connection with the tamer or whatever they're called in digimon gives it the strength to evolve but past that, the digimon fight on their own. Although Pokemon can be strong on their own merit, a usual canonical argument made by the games is that Pokemon acknowledge that the guidance of a trainer can help them reach their true potential as a warrior. So a Pokemon's strength then is more proportional to the trainer's ability to call commands. We're getting into real role-play territory here, but have this scenario:
Sandslash use slash on metalgrepmon's armor
MGM knocks sandslash back and prepares that large ball attack (forget the name)
Now sandslash, use dig, and move far away underground (this would escape the destructive potential of the blast, and allow sandslash to reposition himself for a better strike)
And so on, and so forth. I know its anime battling logic, but thats what works best for Pokemon. Dodging, using attacks creatively, that's where Pokemon shines the most.
tl;dr Digimon power creep =/= creative Pokemon battling/commands
(to be fair though, many digimon are an edge lord's wet dream like seraphmon or patamon's final form, and probably have greater raw firepower. but in that scenario you battle just like how under evolved pokes in the anime fight fully evolved pokes, with skill and creativity)
The real issue with this?
It stopped being about adventures a long time ago. Everything feels dark and edgy, never ending competitive vibes from everything.
I wonder if pokemon trainers would enjoy exploring the digital world and vice versa. Not this silly waste of time.
>>25654690
>And so on, and so forth. I know its anime battling logic
If you're using anime logic then the digimon has just left a crater with a charred sandshrew corpse.
>>25654775
sandslash*
and thats why I said use the time underground to dig forwards, horizontally, out of the blast radius
>>25654810
I don't think you're aware how overpowered digimon are.
>>25654690
Did you mean Wargreymon?
>>25654859
yes
>>25654827
I have a good idea, I've seen the first season of the anime, and I played Dusk
no idea about new digimon. niggas this is a pokemon board, have some faith in the pocket monsters. Im confident most pokemon could counter or defeat a good chunk of digimon
>>25654910
>no idea about new digimon. niggas this is a pokemon board, have some faith in the pocket monsters. Im confident most pokemon could counter or defeat a good chunk of digimon
Consider this, Metalgreymon has power equivalent to a nuke, Wargreymon is stronger.
Anyway, a fully evolved pokemon would probably only be able to take on a champion, legendaries maybe some ultimates.
The pokemon are considerably outmatched.
>>25654962
maybe in firepower but like i said creative commands trump all
Pokemon are the best!
>>25654910
>Im confident most pokemon could counter or defeat a good chunk of digimon
The digimon power scaling is insane I highly doubt there are pokemon that can reach even the half potential of a digimon.
>All this Digimon discussion
Damn, I kinda wanna get back into it. The last Digimon related thing I did was watch that anime that had that guy that would fucking punch other Digimon to evolve his Agumon.
NEO is barely a Digimon and it can separate space and time, and manipulate both.
Then there's Arkadimon, Apocalymon, UltimateKhaosmon, Dexmon and the like.
Would Digimon also have the advantage of having their own world where to attack from? Despite Arceus being able to manipulate Real Worlds, it still can't make itself digital, whereas Digimon can pass from all worlds to their own, and affect Real World from the Digital one.
>>25655638
With that same logic digimon would be even more creative because they actually have human level intelligence and their tamer would even be able to help think of something to help
>>25656840
It would be a draw then. Power creep my ass. Pokemon are powerful as fuck too
>>25656840
>Implying Pokemon don't have human level intellegence if not greater.
>>25657527
Just asking, other than the "God" Pokemon of Gen 4 and Mega Rayquaza, what Pokemon CAN logically blow up the planet? I'm rather curious.
>>25651672
>>25651806
The funny thing is ZeedMillenniummon has sort of been surpassed, given that it's technically a part of this guy.
Along with literally all other Digimon but two.
>>25640901
We're talking about a web series where Batman hung Captain America from a street light, breaking his neck. Then he cut him in half with his own shield.
>>25657527
>a draw
Using your example again, Wargreymon can dig after the Sandslash providing it isn't dead.
Seriously though, pokemon power creep is nothing compared to digimon power creep.
>>25657532
>Gets captured and treated like pets or tools by humans
>rarely any resistance from pokemon even when being abused
>Th-their totally smart bro
>>25647910
what?
Charmander < Charmeleon < Agumon < Charizard < Greymon < M-Charizard < MetalGreymon < WarGreymon
>>25654350
>MEWTWO
>YOU'RE MINE
>>25653776
>>25654254
>Ash is a pussy faggot that needs his slaves to do anything
>>25658424
Yeah seems pretty legit
>>25658442
What in everliving fuck is going on in here did Ash go super-saiyan?
>>25658451
Magical temple power.
Don't worry it isn't canon.
>>25658442
>>25658443
Heh, I was just about to say the same thing.
It's weird, I now just noticed how in most of the Pokemon movies, Ash is like a semi god or something with the shit he goes though.
In the Kanto starter 3-way match, how could Charizard lose? He can fly and fire projectile weapons plus is faster than the other two.
I mean, in-game mechanics are one thing, but IRL it would be no contest.
>>25658454
Shit, meant that for this post. >>25658451
>>25658454
>most
That's literally the only movie where he gets some kind of power.
>>25658465
>Remember when he takes TWO energy blasts from two legendaries at the same time?
I was think about the first movie for one. And what about that "Aura" BS from the Lucurio movie? I haven't watched it though, but I heard about it.
>>25658465
>Victini movie
>>25658472
Even as a kid, Ash turning to stone pissed me off. I was like, he should be fucking dust, what is this cop out SFW shit.
Guys.
Whoever won, it would've been bullshit, because of how they would have handled the fight. Like every fucking video they've done.
>>25658459
Its not like we shoot down airplanes with grounded weapons.
>>25658453
Ash is his own canon.
>>25658580
/thread
>>25658424
Nope.
Charmeleon>wartortle>mewtwo>tentacruel>aerodactyl>omanyte>slowpoke>pidgeot>arbok
>>25658598
I don't recall airplanes being very agile either, or Pokemon shooting homing missiles.
>>25659004
Digimon has both
WarGreymon is an agile airplane and a homing missile
>>25659015
Oh cool thanks for telling me. Read the thread, shithead.
>>25659004
Im pretty sure blastoise can shoot down charizard with his steel shattering guns.
>>25651622
>continent busters
KEK. When? At what point in the show does any Digimon "bust a continent"? This is like when Dragon Ball fags bang on about how Goku can destroy a planet with one punch, or start calling Majin Buu a "galaxy buster" when he's clearly shown needing to fly from planet to planet to destroy them
Anybody who claims that any character is a [insert large thing here] buster is invariably always a turbospergDigmon are in a higher league, I do agree but christ dial it back
>>25659058
Dank meme bro.
>>25658580
The fights aren't what decide the battles, they're just for fun
Their supposed research is.
>>25659157
Fuck those people. DBZ has more "filler" with movies and shit to cause confusion.
Not taking the games/mangas into account;
Black/Wargreymon has a move named "Terra Destroyer/Force, respectively.
Terra = Earth, so EARTH DESTROYER/FORCE. Even if they never "done" it in the show, it's clearly shows Megas+ Has the power TO do so. Hell, Frontier makes that clearer when the fully fusioned Digidestined become a Digimon that can, and has, killed Digimon's Satan and by CUTTING STRAIGHT THOUGH THE ENTIRE CORE OF THE DIGITAL WORLD.
Tell me one (Non God Pokemon) that can and HAS done that, hmm?
>>25659199
To be fair, earth destroyer diesn't neccisarily mean the planet, earth can refer to ground. I agree there's no way that it wouldn't absolutely fuck shit up, but to assume that means a continent/planet wih no basis for that? Nah.
And to say they cut through to the core of the digital world don't mean shit when said world is made out of data.Try reading the spolier text on that post mate. I don't think Pokémon are even remotely in Digimons league
>>25659157
Pretty much any Mega except Marine Angemon is a continent buster or at the very least can raze an extremely large area.
Hell both of Greymon's ultimates have power that rivals a nuke and their megas are stronger.
Then there's shit like Millenniumon, Apocalymon, Dexmon, Lucemon, Arkadimon and several others who were universal tier threats because of their abilities.
Hell Arkadimon can literally look at something and reduce it to simply 1s and 0s regardless of if it's physical matter or pure energy.
>>25659228
>And to say they cut through to the core of the digital world don't mean shit when said world is made out of data.
The problem with that line of thinking is that their abilities translate into reality too.
Even viruses can translate into reality, remember the D-reaper?
>>25659157
While I don't agree with him, I do recall Metalgreymon's missiles having the power of a nuclear warhead. Not exactly continent busting, but it's definitely pretty damn powerful, especially if they even yield 1 megaton of power.
As for Dragonball, Goku probably could blow up a planet with one fist, he is roughly on Frieza's level in his base form, he could likely shoot a ki blast into the ground and destroy a planet, that is one hand.
>>25640863
Godzilla vs Gamera is the only time this show has ever done anything that actually made me giddy.
Most of their battles are either unbalanced shit or they conveniently forget or downplay the abilities of one character so the one that they like more could win.
>>25659305
Or they do the opposite where they enhance a character's abilities ten fold so they can actually compete like Boba Fett/Samus
>>25659307
>they remade it
>buffed Boba to hell
Death battle was a mistake
>>25648083
The problem with the Dante vs Bayonetta battle is that Dante was portrayed as using multiple styles at once.
While Quicksilver is active, Dante shouldn't be able to use other styles.
They also totally left out Bayonetta's strongest weapons. Particularly Rodin, which is divine in nature and would probably stand a reasonable chance at harming the literal spawn of a demon that is Dante.
>>25659199
Metalgarurumon has a moves called metal wolf claw and ice wolf claw, neither of which he uses his claws for. Whg do you think the name corresponds to anything?
>>25659157
In the Xros Wars series DarknessBagramon starts absorbing Earth, starting from Japan. I think that if he'd gotten away with it, he'd absorbed it all.
Also Quartzmon absorbed the whole Earth. I think that counts as a continent bust or few.
>>25659340
That's a case of poor localization.
Metal Wolf Claw = Cocytus Breath
Meanwhile Terra Force is literally just Gaia force which is essentially the same thing.
>>25657717
Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Yveltal, and Deoxys
>>25657717
You have tp make some stretch assumptions, but any heavy ground type that could disrupt the tectonic plates could theoretically do some damage with a well place fissure.
Regigigas could likely land a blow that could strike to the core, DBZ style, due to his continent moving strength
Then there's Mega Metagross, who as a metang couldn't be damaged by a jet plane collision, who is now a super fast floating death cannon
A well trained wailord could produce a hyper beam big enough to initiate a destruction event,Klefki could swagger/t-wave the world and any digimon into oblivion
>>25658013
Then I would tell Sandslash to emerge and counter WGM's strike with a night slash or some shit. You're missing the point, commands constitute a greater level of battling beyond typing and strength alone
>>25659431
>You're missing the point, commands constitute a greater level of battling beyond typing and strength alone
It doesn't matter when you're outmatched in speed, power and intelligence.
These Digimon can act on their own on a completely different level than Pokemon can.
>Then I would tell Sandslash to emerge and counter WGM's strike with a night slash or some shit.
Wargreymon's Armor is made of Chrome Digizoid one of the strongest and most durable matierials in the digital world. Do you honestly think that would work?
>>25642729
Scarf Imposter Ditto :^)
>>25659427
>Any of those
>planet buster tier
You what?
Deoxys inside of a meteor can't even take out the planet. It would have only taken out hoenn.
>>25659452
If we're going by anime logic, it would end in a clash, which would allow an opportunity for further action. And it's all about hitting him in the right spot.
As for your precious speed, power, and intelligence argument, digimon are not smart. The smartest ones are probably the most evil ones, but most digimon whether you want to admit it or not since you seem to be a huge fan, are just like most people IRL, they're just aimless confused fucks. Think of all the mobs of digimon they met in the anime that were the equivalent of dumb animals, even given their ability to speak.
Now take more or less any pokemon, other than those implied to be inherently dumb by design like say magikarp. They start off at least animal level, but all have the potential to grow into smart war forces. The consistency in potential greatly outclasses any one individual digimon's greater knowledge, given they dont represent the whole
>>25651622
Rookie digimon are not city destroyers typically, they're more at the level of a 2nd-stage Pokémon. Champions are more like 3rd-stage and some megas. Ultimates can go toe to toe with most megas except for maybe mega fug or something.
But some Ultimate and most Mega level digimon can beat pretty much every Pokémon.
There are exceptions, though. Some Champion-level digimon are exceptionally weak (like Numemon) and some are exceptionally strong (like, say, Devimon). Power discrepancies within Digimon levels are a lot larger than those in Pokémon, since most 3rd-level evolutions are about equally strong, disregarding typing and movesets.
Friendly reminder that their "research team" does nothing but decide which side has a more popular fanbase, so that side can lose and drum up clicks.
>>25657767
That just means that Death Battle just don't understand even one bit of Batman's character.
>>25657527
actually pokemon are weak af only dialga palkia and mewtwo would i consider really strong becasue of the special powers (mewtwo 1st movie made a gigantic storm with moving 1 hand)
>>25659492
But...I mean here...
>Digimon are just like most people IRL, they're just aimless confused fucks.
>And it was said Pokemon basically rely their full potential with trainers. HUMAN, and I might add, 10 YEAR OLD KIDS.
I mean, I don't get your logic here, what are you trying to say? I'm not even that other anon here, but I don't get how "smart /= strength." I know the old saying "brains over brawn" but when you're literally the embodiment of chaos (Apocalymon) I don't see how you're going to just get killed by "being smarter".
Let's look at this video for instance:
(ignore the shitty AMV music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L98SEmVt9mw&ebc=ANyPxKocWXqJlFpbDBlLu4znhFGlc0JhmBdjRMPop_IfNSgnQo2vJEjKZmhf7Bk9CIOrEDp0pXhoxjQCqHrsn-lcUVhIpD15Ew
around 4:00, the digimon launched an attack that when dodged blew up that small planet and it's two moons. Let's take that as an example of raw firepower, like I mentioned. Now, add into that one wobbufet, or any pokemon with mirror coat, and boom, it's dead. Furthermore, digimon evaporate into digital data/energy/whatever when they're defeated, it shows us their threshold for battle leaves them unable to stay in the real world. Pokemon are inherently tougher based on the fact that they can get hit with something like 4:00 in that video and simply faint (that pidgey/gyrados comic anyone?)
Pokemon could withstand digimon's uber edgy attacks if not prevent them from hitting their marks long before they could faint it.
>powerlevel shit
>>25659492
>just aimless confused fucks
Nigga it takes brains to plan your own birth through a paradox that can't be broken.
A rookie Digimon can use a phone, a computer, communicate with several species (humans and animals), some can solve math, some make fucked up plans and revive themselves and some are like the Royal Knights and take care of outside threats to the Digital World.
Hell, most Digimon are smarter than you and we're counting literal shit like Sukamon here.
>>25659492
>And it's all about hitting him in the right spot.
There is no right spot when you're so woefully outclassed anon.
>digimon are not smart. The smartest ones are probably the most evil ones
Ignoring the fact that they've built cities, societies, hierarchies, separate groups like the Royal Knights, Olympos XII, Devas, Seven Great Demon Lords and so on without the input of humans.
>They start off at least animal level, but all have the potential to grow into smart war forces.
I do hope you're talking about digimon here because if you're talking about pokemon you're woefully out of touch of both series.
Pokemon are nothing more than animalistic in nature give or take a few psychic and legendaries they always rely on their instincts or trainers commands.
For digimon now they start of as babies and age in a similar way to humans anon to the point where the the first few stages are literally called
Baby
Baby II
Child
Adult
You are vastly understating the intelligence of digimon and overstating the intelligence of Pokemon.
I have to say this again, Digimon can act and strategize of their own free will Pokemon cannot.
>>25659526
Smart in this context = ability to perceive commands, and in some regard, likely reflexes. A smart Pokemon is not just one that has your typical emotional and logical intelligence, but also good common sense. Sure ANY Pokemon doesn't want to get hit with an attack, but the smartest and strongest Pokemon will dodge an attack almost inherently.
It enables the Trainer to use more creative commands to subdue digimon. All a digimon is is a glass cannon. Their destructive force is equalized by their ability, in the real world, to be knocked back into data. I dont disagree that it would be a tough battle, but I do think you guys, on the Pokemon board strangely enough, are not giving Pokemon their due consideration.
>>25659527
Remember that Counter/Mirror Coat requires a pokemon to tank at least one hit. Do you think Wobbuffet can survive an attack that can blow up a planetary system?
>>25651806
So, Digimon is just that one guy's Charizard now, but weaker.
>>25659544
What are you saying? Digimon birth themselves by coalescing raw code? I've only seen the first two seasons of the anime and one of the movies, where Apocalyptomon comes into the real world and does shit.
You're gonna need to explain that to me.
But if I understand it correctly, I'll still refute it. The knowledge necessary to create conditions for one's birth is admirable, but one the digimon is 'born' I'm assuming it can potentially go right on back to being a ditzy wild animal.
Pokemon are smart enough to learn commands from different typings, to utilize them in battle. Their ability to understand human speech represents a greater spike in intelligence than digimon, who speak english/human by virtue of the origin of their digitally based world. Pokemon ,it's implied, were the ground zero of life in-universe. Humans essentially evolved out of them somehow (btw side thing here: I think Sun and Moon would be awesome if there was a kind of 'missing link' rare encounter Pokemon who represents the transition from human to pokemon, nothing lewd though) and so Pokemon responded by evolving back to the extent that they could understand us. It takes a lot of innate ability to adapt to a language that is so vastly different from your animal grunts and gurgles
And no goddamn dirty mexican digimon is smarter than me, you cut that out pablo
>>25659574
what
>>25659582
bruhi love funny digimon designs{/spoiler]
>>25659546
Just because this is a pokemon board doesn't mean that we don't have an accurate view of their power.
Well, that doesn't apply to you of course.
Anyway everything you said about Pokemon and their trainers apply to digimon except for the part where they aren't bound by the directions of their tamers they can make their own moves on the fly using their own intuition, intelligence and common sense.
> but the smartest and strongest Pokemon will dodge an attack almost inherently.
You're pitting it against a digimon with an attack the size of a small building, no amount of reaction time can get them out of the way.
>All a digimon is is a glass cannon.
A common trait in some ultimates and most megas are that they're coated in some type of chrome digizoid, the single most durable substance in the digital world. The only thing we've seen break it is a digimon of exceptional strength or a chrome digizoid weapon. So these digimon are just as durable as they are powerful.
>>25659568
>focus sash
RIP any fucking digimon
>>25659611
>tank the hit
>digivolve because determination
