>Water/Dark
One fucking job. Instead of following the legend and also appealing to the fans by making his Mega Water/Dragon, they went with Water/Dark. Can you imagine how awesome it would be? Gaining resistance to Water, Grass, Ice, Fire... No, let's make him weak to Bug, Fighting, Electric, Grass.
Let's buff Gengar, Blaziken and Salamence instead, clearly they need it.
Gyarados
Atrocious Pokemon
Red Rarely seen in the wild. Huge and vicious, it is capable of destroying entire cities in a rage.
Blue
Yellow Brutally vicious and enormously destructive. Known for totally destroying cities in ancient times.
Generation II
Gold They say that during past wars, Gyarados would appear and leave blazing ruins in its wake.
Silver Once it appears, it goes on a rampage. It remains enraged until it demolishes everything around it.
Crystal It appears whenever there is world conflict, burning down any place it travels through.
Ruby When Magikarp evolves into Gyarados, its brain cells undergo a structural transformation. It is said that this transformation is to blame for this Pokémon's wildly violent nature.
Sapphire Once Gyarados goes on a rampage, its ferociously violent blood doesn't calm until it has burned everything down. There are records of this Pokémon's rampages lasting a whole month.
Emerald It is an extremely vicious and violent Pokémon. When humans begin to fight, it will appear and burn everything to the ground with intensely hot flames.
FireRed It has an extremely aggressive nature. The Hyper Beam it shoots from its mouth totally incinerates all targets.
LeafGreen Rarely seen in the wild. Huge and vicious, it is capable of destroying entire cities in a rage.
Diamond Once it appears, its rage never settles until it has razed the fields and mountains around it.
Pearl In ancient literature, there is a record of a Gyarados that razed a village when violence flared.
Platinum Once it begins to rampage, a Gyarados will burn everything down, even in a harsh storm.
HeartGold They say that during past wars, Gyarados would appear and leave blazing ruins in its wake.
SoulSilver Once it appears, it goes on a rampage. It remains enraged until it demolishes everything around it.
Also nice megas that change type that you listed there.
>>24918508
It won worlds
>>24918508
>complaining about mega gyarados
The nigga is still good, what you really need to complain about is mega Banette
>>24918508
Aside from being Lysandre mega I did't have a problem with it
>>24918616
>what you really need to complain about is mega Banette
This. I want it to be good so much.
>>24918508
I all wanted was levitate for (mega) gyrados.
>>24918508
Water/Dark suits Gyarados perfectly. It's a nasty, aggressive pokemon. Of course it would become Dark type.
>>24918508
I dont think you understand what Dark type represents and how it fits Gyarodos really well, much better than being a dragon simply because it's a long fish.
>>24918559
Those entries talk A LOT about fire
Water/Fire when?
>>24918670
Volcanion
Useless ability.
>>24918670
>not teaching your Gyarados Fire Blast
>>24918700
>Mold breaker
>useless
>>24918700
> set up sweeper
> ignores sturdy
> ignores venu's thick fat
> Unaware cleff
Anon, you should try playing gen 6
OP here. I was just baiting. Happy New Years eve.
>>24918559
>>24918658
>>24918664
>Dark type makes sense because Gyarados is strong and destructive
No. They made Mega-Fagfish Dark type to fuck Feraligatr over even more. Dark would've been the perfect secondary type for Mega-Gatr but Gamefreak hates the far superiorly designed water type and fans love Fagfish for god knows what reason so they give it all to the Fagfish and shit on best Gatr.
>>24918802
No, they made it because Gyarados is a bad Pokemon, it's a dick to people and the general environment. Just like a lot of other Dark type Pokemon.
>>24918508
>Edgyarados
There is literally nothing wrong with STAB Crunch
>>24918802
i'd expect this much crying from a Flygonfag.
>>24918508
DRAGONFAG
BTFO
T
F
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>wanting dragon type on a shitmon that only has outrage and dragon pulse
>now dark type was buffed and gyarados learns crunch
Shitter.
>>24918616
How to fix Mega-Banette and nerf Mega-Sableye in one easy change.
PRANKSTER DOES NOT FUCKING ACTIVATE ON MEGA-EVOLUTION TURN UNLESS IT'S THE FUCKING MEGA-EVO THAT GETS IT HOLY FUCK HOW DOES A MEGA-SABLEYE USE PRANKSTER IT EVOLVES BEFORE IT ACTUALLY DOES THE ATTACK FUCK YOU GAMEFREAK AND FUCK THAT LITTLE CUNT RUPEE KIKE GOBLIN
>>24918559
I like how its fits thematically Cyrus and especially Lysandre and his plan.
I bred one in Y, it's on AS now
Should I keep Ice Fang or replace it with Crunch?
They both have their uses. Which one has more uses?
>>24919022
Build a team around it first
Then base your decision on what your team needs out of Gyarados
>>24918802
>They made Mega-Fagfish Dark type to fuck Feraligatr over even more
good laugh
>>24918980
banettite is built as if banette has bulk already, or has the ability to increase its own bulk outside of will o wisp. its a huge mismatch and would have gone a lot farther as hitmontopite or scraftynite
>>24918508
>Water/Dragon
>resisting Grass and Ice
>>24918508
He wouldn't gain a resistance to ice. He would remain neutral to ice as both flying and dragon are weak to ice
>>24918980
Because turn order is decided before mega evolution occurs.
>>24919873
And you'd think that might have been taken into consideration when designing megas requiring the opposite in order to not be completely fucked over.
>>24918971
>Gyarados
>shitmon
Are you high?
Mega Gyarados is a good pokemon. The thing that bothers me about it is that its best STAB moves are 80 bp.
>>24918508
Because Grass needs more nerfing, right?
>>24918649
It wrecks in singles. Use it as a revenge killer on a weakened opponent and Sucker Punch on the same turn you mega evolve. You'll kill the opponent and will be Prankster ready for Destiny Bond/status hijinks. Also run Phantom Force on it. A lot of people don't realize it hits through Protect/Detect and it puts you in range for a Sucker Punch/Shadow Sneak kill after. Destiny Bond is a final "fuck you" for a minimum 2-for-1 exchange and if you're playing on cart that levels the playing field
>>24920320
> Not running bulkyMegados with Payback
>dark is edgy type
>>24918508
>Fighting moves are resisted if you dont Mega turn1
>ground attacks do nothing if you dont
>psychic does nothing if you do
Its a nice shift in immunities/resists and creates a ton of fucking mindgames.
Water/Dragon would just make him weak to fairy for zero gain other than cutting Electric weakness from x4 to x1
>>24918802
>literally called The Atrocious Pokemon
>hurr fuckin durr but Dark-type gatr
No if anything, Water/Dragon belongs on Mega Feraligatr not Mega Gyarados
>fans love Gyarados for godknows what reason
Because its a badass serpent not a retarded crocodile in carpenter jeans and has a vastly superior shiny
>>24924792
every dark type is edgy in context
one anon pposted a diagram seperating what kind of evil or dirty things all the dark type pokemon do and the only exception was absol because 'misunderstood instead of actualy bad'
>>24918508
>following the legend
Gyarados gets punished and stripped of its dragon powers for being an asshole after it jumps the dragon gate or whatever. So it never ever would've had Dragon to begin with, and Dark fits it perfectly.
>>24918508
>gaining resistance to water and fire
I mean technically yeah but uh
>>24918508
pokemon that need a mega/ power creep thread?
Arbok
Golurk
Lanturn
Poliwrath
Primeape
Quacksire
Xatu
Sandslash
Stantler
Girafirg
Noctowl
All three johto starters
>>24928987
lanturn is a nice replacement for rotom, trading a ground immunity for an electric one with a sp.att boost. quag was a better marshtomp before megas. id rather forget mons like stantler and girafarig. i will agree with the others to an extent
>>24918508
id rather Dos be stuck with payback bite and Crunch as stab than
Dragon rage Dragon pulse Dragon tail and Outrage
>>24928970
Why do people assume that every Gyarados is violent and nasty? #NotAllGyarados
>>24918508
>weak to electric
>0 Atk Mold Breaker Mega Gyarados Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 146-172 (48.1 - 56.7%) -- 34.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
between the mold breaker and losing half of a 4x weakness, id say he kicks ass.
keep in mind these calcs were defensive vs defensive builds. 252 attack vs 252 sp.att ends up in a guranteed 2 hit scenario still in Dos's favor
>>24918508
they did it so your welfare mega lucario could have something to nuke while fighting Lysandre
>>24929111
thats bullshit but i believe it
>>24928987
Speaking of buffs, what would you rather have for some pokemon? A mega evolution or a complete revamp of their base stats for next gen?
When was the last time they changed any of the base stats of pokemon, gen 3?
I wish they would do that and also they should change some things in the type charts, like for starters not have fairy resist bug.
>>24929129
>When was the last time they changed any of the base stats of pokemon
Literally this generation. Remember back when Raichu only had 100 base speed?
>>24929152
Oh I missed on that, but yeah examples like this. A little boost could help a few mons without fully mega evolve them.
Others of course need it like Flygon or Farfetch'd.
>>24929129
megas are the way to power creep the game
>>24928987
Arbok, ability marvel scale
HP: 60 +45
Attack: 85 +5
Defense: 69 +30
Sp. Atk: 65 -25
Sp. Def: 79 +25
Speed: 80
Lanturn, ability volt absorb
HP: 125
Attack: 58
Defense: 58 +10
Sp. Atk: 76 +20
Sp. Def: 76 +20
Speed: 67
Poliwrath, ability sap sipper
HP: 90 +25
Attack: 95 +10
Defense: 95 +10
Sp. Atk: 70 -20
Sp. Def: 90 +20
Speed: 70
Primeape, ability anger point
HP: 65 +40
Attack: 105 +15
Defense: 60 +5
Sp. Atk: 60
Sp. Def: 70 +5
Speed: 95 +15
>>24928987these 2 deserve one aswell
>>24930122
Quagsire, ability unaware
HP: 95 +35
Attack: 85 +10
Defense: 85 +10
Sp. Atk: 65 +10
Sp. Def: 65 +10
Speed: 35
Sandslash, ability Iron barbs, make it a steel/ground type
HP: 75 +10
Attack: 100 +10
Defense: 110 +15
Sp. Atk: 45 -20
Sp. Def: 55 +15
Speed: 65 +10
Girafarig, ability moody
HP: 70 +10
Attack: 80 +20
Defense: 65
Sp. Atk: 90 +10
Sp. Def: 65 +10
Speed: 85 +10
Noctowl, ability ghost version of pixalte, type flying/ghost
HP: 100
Attack: 50
Defense: 50
Sp. Atk: 76 +10
Sp. Def: 96 +30
Speed: 70 +45
You can't gain HP when you mega evolve, faggot.
>>24930177
adding hypno because i like hypno
Hypno, ability bad dreams
HP: 85 +15
Attack: 73 +30
Defense: 70
Sp. Atk: 73 +30
Sp. Def: 115
Speed: 67
Feraligator, ability tough claws
HP: 85 +10
Attack: 105 +10
Defense: 100 +15
Sp. Atk: 79
Sp. Def: 83 +5
Speed: 78 +10
Typhlosion, ability flash fire
HP: 78 +10
Attack: 84 -30
Defense: 78
Sp. Atk: 109 +25
Sp. Def: 85 +20
Speed: 100 +25
Meganium, ability rattled
HP: 80 +10
Attack: 82 +10
Defense: 100 +10
Sp. Atk: 83 +10
Sp. Def: 100 +10
Speed: 80
>>24930227
all of these are all fan wants, who the fuck cares none of these will hapen anyway
>>24918802
>No. They made Mega-Feraligatr Dark type to fuck Crawdaunt over even more. Meta-gatr completely outclasses Crawdaunt now, and GF hates the far superiorly designed water type and fans love Fagatr for god knows what reason so they give it all to the Fagatr and shit on best lobster
>>24918508
Mega Feraligatr
water/Electric
Water veil
+40 attack
+20 def
+20 Spdef
+20 Speed
>Gyarados will never get Dragon Ascent
>>24930330
>Finally gets it as an event
>natures rigged toModest and 0 attack ivs
>>24930338
>modest
>not quiet (+SpA, -Speed)
>>24928987
Mega ditto when?
>>24918508
I don't care about the typing, I just think it looks fucking retarded. It became a fucking angry shrimp.
>>24929111
>>24930534
>fucking angry windsock
ftfy
>>24930319
>water/Electric
What, does it become a Lagiacrus or something?
>>24931362
That would actually be pretty fucking awesome
>>24933025
Turning into a Rath worked out for Aerodactyl, at least.
>>24918508
Still not as sinful as refusing to give Mega Tyranitar Sand Force and instead double down on Sand Stream.
>>24930511
Same as normal ditto, but if its target has a mega evolution, it turns into the mega version, regardless of whether its target even has the Mega Stone.
>>24918983
What? It'd make sense if he used a Milotic and it became Dark/Water, there's nothing appealing about Gyarados to start with.
