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Pokemon: Hoopa and the Clash of Ages Talkback Thread
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THIS WEEK ON THE DUB THAT NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH...

It's that time of the year again! It's near the end of the year and the latest Pokemon movie, Hoopa and the Clash of Ages, will be airing today on Cartoon Network in conjunction with a reairing of Arceus and the Jewel of Life. It's already aired in a few other backwater countries but who cares about them CN is the place we do this shit amirite? As with the /vp/ tradition, we'll be watching, discussing, and most importantly, heckling it from start to finish. So if you don't have anything to do today and you're not going to go watch Star Wars, it probably wouldn't kill you to tune in.

>Arceus and the Jewel of Life - 3:30/2:30c
>Hoopa and the Clash of Ages - 6/5c

At the time of this post, there is no confirmed stream just yet. There may be one later in the day, but it's not guaranteed.
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>watching the dub
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>>24852706
Were you surprise?
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>all these Digimon
>and then Lugia, because Lugia
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>pokemon movies will never be as good as the teaser trailers
>they will always suffer severe downgrades (eg: possessed ash in this movie)
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>>24852743
But anon, Lugia is the only Digimon there.
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>>24852706
if you weebs cared about quality you wouldn't be watching the ashnime at all
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Is this the Sonic and the Secret Rings of Pokemon?
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>>24852839
> ashnime

Literally begging for replies

Here's one
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>>24852885
so you think it's bait, yet you still latch your big fat mouth on the hook

you're one retarded fish
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>>24852885
>replying to the bait
>at all
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WHY THE FUCK CAN HOOPA TALK

also
>4 days left of hoopa and I still haven't sperged over to McD
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>>24852969
All Pokémon can talk. It's usually not in words we can understand, though.
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>>24852983
Hoopa is actually talking, not like Mewtwo and Arceus and all those pokemon talking psysically
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>>24852996
It's a genie. Genies like Robin Williams and Shaq can talk, can't they?
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Funfact: hoopa unbound's japanese voice actor also voiced the genie from aladdin
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>>24852846
MAKES BELIEFS REBORN
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Arceus time
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>http://strawpoll.me/6310611
>http://strawpoll.me/6310611
Post predictions
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>>24853312
>lowest grossing Pokemon movie since Heroes

l o l
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>tfw DP movies were the last good movies
>and they even had actual continuity

What went wrong?
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So while we wait, what's everyone's favorite 'mon?

I like Kyogre

WEEEEEE WOOOO
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>>24853349
It's always been Shuckle.
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>>24853349
Umbreon
I always had a knack to watch stars, sitting by dimming campfire. With umbreon i'd have somebody to observe beauty of universe together
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fuck when was the last time CN's aired a Sinnoh ep/movie? I think Boomerang is nearing the end of Sinnoh League Victors right now

they aired a random BW episode for no real reason (the ranch episode?) earlier this year too during a pokemon marathon
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>>24853362
Like you said, Boomerang marathons the entire pre-BW series two episodes at a time on weekdays.

Advanced Generation had a marathon on CN right before the Diancie movie aired, and the Genesect movie had Darkrai airing before it.
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>>24853373
>Advanced Generation marathon
>in 2014
man that IS old.
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>>24853385
It was ORAS hype time, remember?

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, an HD remastered version of the first movie aired in Jan 2014. That was fun.
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>>24853340
I liked Diancie's tbqh

>>24853349
Lugia.
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>>24853349
Umbreon.

I often think of myself as an Umbreon that sparkles in the moonlight, is intellegent, nihilistic, and has a wicked sense of humor.
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>>24853405
oh yeah.

also did they air a kanto marathon when that aired? that would've been fucking based
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>Brock's Croagunk
I forgot how cool it was

Also, why is the dub quality so consistently poor?
And did they actually change Hoopa's voice from that one trailer?
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>>24853422
They actually bothered to change Hoopa from that overwhelmingly negative feedback, yeah.

And to be fair, I thought the dub was still alright during DP.
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>>24853427
Yeah, DP dub is decent

But after watching XY&Z subbed recently, I'm very displeased with the more recent dub.
But maybe I'm biased because I don't understand Japanese, and it's actually always poor-quality.
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>>24853435
I don't know what happened either, the dub's really lost its way recently.
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>According to ADR director Tom Wayland, Arceus was originally going to be voiced by actor Vincent D'Onofrio of Full Metal Jacket and Men in Black fame. However, before his recording session, there were difficulties with D'Onofrio's agent and he was unable to record for the movie. After re-auditioning, Tom Wayland himself was chosen to voice Arceus instead.
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Watching the Arceus move again reminded me how good the Gen IV movies were. The Arceus movie is probably the last "great" Pokemon movie. Gen V and Gen VI so far were disappointing. The Hoopa movie may cut close to Geb IV greatness, I only watched segments of the raw Japanese version
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>>24852696

>According to TV Guide This movie is airing once and only once.
>Instead of the encore performance they're airing that abomination that is the live-action Cat in the Hat on Sunday instead.

Say what you will about the quality of the dub or lack there of, at least this is animated.

Fucking Cartoon Network, just when I thought they were stopping the push for Live Action.
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>>24853501
I like all the deep lore the DP movies have.
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>>24853502
Record that shit nigga.
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>>24853501
I fucking love how the Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina that appear in them are all the same ones. DP is based.
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Fucking hyper beam on everything.
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>>24853310
Nope.
Cameo only.
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Arceus is the best movie
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J U S T I C E
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>motherfucking Dan Green
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>>24853502
they've actually stopped the live action craze more this year than last year.
the only LA stuff they still air is Wimpy Kid 3, The Smurfs, and Cat in the Hat. They canceled that shitty sports award show and stopped rerunning Incredible Crew.
vishnu (the lead of programming at CN) can go fuck himself for different reasons though. look at how many TTG reruns there are.

the hoopa movie will probably reair some other time, like look at this Arceus movie they're airing out of nowhere. there seems to be at least 2 weekends a year where Pokemon has a nice marathon or a prime time slot. (in august there was an afternoon marathon with 1 BW episode, 2 XY episodes, and a movie or two; while last year had the HD 1st movie in Jan. and a Hoenn marathon with the Diancie movie in November)
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>Notched ear pichu
I remember that event. Sucks you couldn't transfer it.
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>two of every Pokemon in the cell room

subtle
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>>24853552
like we won't be able to with Cosplay Pikachu too
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>flashback to scenes that happened five minutes ago

Only anime
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MAGICAL CREATURE
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>>24853564
I think we should just stick to calling them magical creatures. They can't be pocket monsters if they don't fit in your pocket.
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>>24853083
LET THE SPEED MEND IT
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>all these ads

Why do they take so long?

I forgot this was the HGSS movie.
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Ohhh I hate dramatic irony shit like this.

Ash and friends know the truth at this point in the film but this character of the day bitch is still spreading now-outdated information.
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>>24852996
>psysically
Do you mean telepathically anon?
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>when some flying llama looking ass nigga flies out a portal and shits out rocks from his boddy
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Arceus should really leave this meteor destroying business to fug.
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>>24853633
>>24853629
Kek
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The music for that entire sequence was really beautiful, fuck.
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the fuck...
The Arceus movie airs for 2.5 hours, but the Hoopa movie will only air for 1.5

Are they gonna cut huge chunks out the movie just like they did with Diancie last year? Granted, the Diancie movie was lame, but CN's edits didn't help at all
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I keep forgetting Arceus is kinda huge.
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>>24853489
We were going to have the bad guy from Jurassic World voicing Arceus? Thsg would have been different. Better than rapist Wayland.
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>>24853538
>Cat in the Hat.

Good lord, I thought they destroyed every DVD/VHS copy of that godforsaken film...

>DIRTY HOE
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>>24853501
I really forgot how much I liked this movie and how good they used to be.
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>>24853700
Aren't newer movies just shorter in general? Add that to the usual dub cuts.
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>>24852885

>didn't seem to be intented as bait.
>assumed it was bait.
>still took it.

It's like a whole other level of retard too..
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>>24853742
Wait.
Was taking the bait part of HIS plan to get responses?
Did you take HIS bait?
Or is this more elaborate than that?
Are you baiting me to reply?
AM I BAITING?
I'm seriously confused.
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>>24853740
All the movies are 90 minutes long, but movie 1-6 and 15-18 are split into one 70 minute feature and one 20 minute short.
So if CN cuts the short, those 10 movies end up being "shorter".
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>>24853751

Fuck when thinking that deep into it, don't even know anymore.
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Ash is athletic as fuck
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I didn't know Ash was so into parcour
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arceus and damos have to kiss or ash will never be born
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CELEBI, YOU CAN'T DIE
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>>24853805
Reminder that the voice we're getting is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-fahz-YY4
instead of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxTxlKvQFU8
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>>24853839
I don't like either of them.
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>>24853858
I didn't say it was good, but I think it's a bit better, at least
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>>24853700

Why are they even airing the arceus movie again? I mean I already seen the diancie movie so I don't really care, but wouldn't it fit nicer and make sense to reair diancie's movie along with hoopa's movie seeing that they are both xy movies and still fresh?
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>>24853866
It is less goofy sounding.
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>We won't get the credits for Arceus and the Jewel of life.
Shame, really like "If only we learn"
Probably won't get it for the Hoppa movie either not that I think about it.
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>pokemon has a saddle
>It's oppressive
>transformed into data and trapped in a ball
>it's a sign of friendship
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>>24853885
Probably because the 4 legends I. The Arceus movie all appear in one way or another in the Hoopa movie

I'm glad though, the Diancie movie isn't even a pimple on the ass of the Arceus movie. This is one of the best Pokemon movies.
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>>24853913
liar
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>>24853913
You spoke to soon, huh?
Nice credit theme too
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>>24853913
>We actually get the credits
Well shit. Color me Yellow and call me Pikachu.
Sped up though.
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>>24853913
well apparently so

also they have 20 minutes left what are they going to fill this with??? (inb4 TTG)
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>We even get some of the song from the other movies
Thats a little neat
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>they're playing the credits again
well, okay???
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>>24853937
Apparently they're showing the credits again.
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While this intermezzo is on, what Pokémon film would you suggest for a man who has seen the dub of the first two films and both dubs and subs of every Digimon film?
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Now I wish they'd have just looped the credits several times over.
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>>24853937
Probs a Pikachu short
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CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE
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>>24853950
The third movie.
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I'LL STOP THEM AAAALLLLLLL
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>>24853950
Anything up to the Arceus movie
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>>24853954
Taste like crab, talk like people.
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>>24853960
Thank god they listened to the mass backlash and changed Hoopas god awful voice actor from the early trailers before the final move came out
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>>24853950
Movies 3-5, 7-9 and 10-12
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>>24853970
I didn't even bother watching the new trailer the dub is done for me
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Are they showing the short first?

Neat.
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is this a short or are they just starting the movie early?
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it's Hoopaning
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Waifu?
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>>24853996
Mary is waifu tier alright.
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ah ok, so they're killing the next 10 minutes with a Hoopa short. Cool, didn't know they localized any of those
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>>24853986
It's the tie-in OVA.
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>IT'S HUGE

l-lewd
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This dub is worse than i remember.
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are these children street rattatas?
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>>24854018
I doubt it. Her haircut is too neat for a hoodlum. Her glasses also imply that she's cared for, and the fat kid is fat so he's obviously getting fed.
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>>24854017
Eh, it's not THAT bad...
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>implying Phanpy's not fancy
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>rice ball
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>Actually called the rice ball a rice ball
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Too bad you won't see this in the dub.
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>>24854052
>>24854050
What a weird way to say 'jelly doughnut'
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>they cut the pissing scene
This is 4Kids tier
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>How about some donuts?
Are they jelly filled?
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it's like they went out of their way to show they know the difference between rice balls and donuts.
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>>24854054
Kek
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>rice balls AND donuts
Is this just a coincidence?
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>>24854057
>>24854054
That's mildly understandable
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>>24854043
It is
Talking about the dub is impossible in /padt/ becuase people would rather pretend it doesnt exist, it's that bad
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I love how my captions refer to Hoopa as "Hoopa Confined"
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time for hangin' with mr. hoopa
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PHENOMONAL COSMIC POWER!!!!!!!
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>Regigigas's cry

Why?

That's cool as shit
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>>24854088

The regi line has always had sick ass cries
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Regis have the topest tier cries
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>>24854086
ᴵᵗᵗʸ ᵇᶦᵗᵗʸ ᶫᶦᵛᶦᶰᵍ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ
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>Hoopa not so tough after getting bottled
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I always knew danny phantom was in pokemon
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Stream?
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>>24854097
Even Regice?
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We /ads/ now
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>>24854142
Especially Regice
The nightmares are worth it
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Clemont's voice is the best of the main cast, definitely
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WERE YOU SURPRISED?
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Sanic lost a rang
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Didn't this happen in the Victini movie? They are in a place, Ash happens to eat food the special pokemon likes so it steals from him, and they become friends.
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>>24854182
Yes, but I think it took longer to befriend Victini.
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Hoopa's voice is all right.
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W A I F U
A
I
F
U
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CHILD ABDUCTION
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>>24854197

I'll take it over Keldeo's ANY day.
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>Ash just comes back and the first person he takes his Bonnie
kek
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JUST A PRANK, BRO
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>>24854170
IMO while his voice fits him well, I wish it had some kind of emotion it.
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Ash should just wear only that undershirt .
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>>24854211
That's more than I would say for the others
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Ash should just wear no shirt .
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Heard you were summoning hoops like i wouldn't find out
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>>24854182
That movie had a top tier waifu in it too.
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>>24854197
Any voice is better than it originally was in the old trailers
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Wish /vp/ did a Hoopa distribution.
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>>24854200
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NICE SKIN, SHAQ
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>>24854228
Like the old days? Unfortunately, /vp/ isn't anywhere near as friendly as we were in 2013/14
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>>24854243
Back then, you couldn't "just inject it" for the most part.

Even then, giveaways are still fun.
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This escalated fast
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Can I just mention that I really like both Hoopa forms' designs?
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why not just open the bottle again and seal Hoopa back in?
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>>24854231
haram
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THE FUTURE IS NOW
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based clemont
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Touch le bottle
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Golden showers
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>>24853885
well there you go
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>Arceus being referenced for a moment
Is this why Arceus and the Jewel of Life was played?
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Thank you, Pokemon Jesus
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>>24854309
Probably.
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>Jesus of the Pokémon World had a Hoopa.
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>>24854323
So that's hiw he git all the extra bread and fish in the story.
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>>24854323
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>>24854330
What about the bread to water trick?
And calming downs the sea?
And walking off death in three days?
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>>24854352
Same thing.
Summoning Kyogre to calm the seas
Getting Hoopa to sumon an exact double to do the crucifixion for him, then getting Hoopa to get him into the tomb.
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>>24854258
True, besides shitty PowerSaves, we really could to significant hacking until SciresM came out with ram2sav in January of Febuary of this year. Now with Homebrew, we hav total control of our saves.

I do miss giveaways though. I was a contributor back in those days. I was also forever grateful when /vp/ in its intirety got the first Diancie from Japan in July 2014
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>>24854351
What're you trying to do? Throh us off the trail?
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>>24854372
CARLOS!
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HOOPLA!
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>Shadow Hoppa
So I guess you could say it's a shadow Pokemon?
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>hoopa, yet not hoopa. it's a shadow of hoopa

literally who writes this
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Surprised his big bird couldn't beat the beast that fights legendaries for fun
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Has Hoopa stopped them all?
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>The Fury
We Metal Gear now

>Hoppa's shadow
And Persona
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>>24854385
>Ash recognizing legendaries
What madness is this?
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Couldn't they throw pokeballs at it?
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>>24854397
Why don't they just do that every movie?
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>>24854381
>>24854382
We DBZ Buu now.
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>>24854393
It's actually pretty rare that he doesn't.
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>>24854397
Something something It's Part Of Nature
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>>24854397
I like to assume the legendary pokemon in the movies would just crush or destroy the balls before it comes in contact with them.
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PokeMon of Murder
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Haha

Callback
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>Ash riding on Luigi
That's nice.
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>Punches
>Exploding
I never understand this
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>Rayquaza
>Listening to ash
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>Ash not riding on latias' big ass
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Hey it's Ash's old girlfriend . . . and her dead brother?
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I arrived late but wasn't there a scene with an evil looking Ash in the trailers?
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>>24854438
There is more than one of each minor legendary
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>>24854438
Are these these the same Latias and Latios from movie 5?
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>>24854438
Nope it's Ash's old GF... and ash's son
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FUUUUUUUUUUG!!!
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>>24854309
Spoiler: Arceus shows up at the end of the movie
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>ray can't just solo this bitch
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>>24854448
>Pokegirls all lose Ashbowl to an actual Pokemon

OH MY GOD!
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>We almost had an evil Serena at the beginning

Damn
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Evil Hoopa Unbound is terrifying
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>>24854456
Well they've never even got to first base: having a date and kissing him.
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AIRLOCK DAMMIT.
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>Using Psychic on a dark type
Fucking idiot
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Well you're dead, Ash.
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[licensed Toho noises intensifies]
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>>24854484
Just aim for the horn
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>>24854484
Should've called in Keldeo and the Three Musketeers.
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Palkia's cry is cool too
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Good thing they evacuated the fucking city before this all happened
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>>24854484
to be fair he doesn't know hoopa's typing
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>>24854500
It's the same cry as that thing from Star Wars Episode 3.
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All these buildings being destroyed
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Wobbuffet gives no fucks
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Wobbeft can't burn through steal beams.
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>the many deaths the pokemon caused by Hoopa.
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>>24854521
Don't worry they were scheduled for renovation. They're completely empty.
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Anyone watching with captions get a name on this guy? I want to know if they actually bothered to keep his name or just reverted it to "The Traveler."
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well shit

I'm kind of enjoying this
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>>24854539
It's just calling him The Traveler
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So Shinies aren't really a thing in the snime?
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>>24854540

It's pretty hype, not gonna lie. 10 year old me would have thrown a fit over this.
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Pokemon: Rogue Squadron
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Would it kill you motherfuckers to go OUTSIDE THE CITY?
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>Kyogre flying

what
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Why are they listening to Ash?
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>>24854562
Didn't you know? Air is just a primitive form of water!
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>>24854560
This isn't Dragon Ball

Ash doesn't give a fuck abpit casualties, apparently
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>>24854544
That actually doesn't surprise me at all, sad to say. I mean, as far as I know he isn't called Ghris in the actual movie originally either, only in the credits, but he's in more than just one scene so I kind of hoped they'd keep it. He isn't that obscure porter guy named after a soccer player from the last movie.

Thanks anon
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>>24854566
He has enough badges to control them.
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>>24854566
Ironically, Hoopa did grant his wish. He's commanding mega legendarues.
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>>24854568
that's supposed to say 'about'
My dog was barking at me
My bad
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>>24854568
think he already bought a ticket to Batman VS. Superman?
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I haven't kept up with pokemon since hoenn and I just caught this on cn and thought I'd visit /vp/. Pokémon has fucking changed, man.
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>>24854582
no, it's still the same. the movies are just really fucking over the top and noncanon
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How anticlimactic
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>>24854551
Same, just imagining this on a movie screen gets me going
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Uh, I missed the first part, just tuned in actually. Did they handle absofusion correctly or did Kyurem just magically become White Kyurem?
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>>24854593

the latter
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>>24854562
For the sake of inclusion in the battles of the movie, he is allowed to levitate thanks to being controlled Hoopa's power
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Dammit Ash
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All the legends just swim home
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Luckily all the legendary waters were conveniently floating over water so they could drop safely. Actually surprised they didn't use it as a final chance to fuck the city up just a little bit more.
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>>24854590
Nothing will ever be as anticlimactic as the epic showdown between Xerneas and Yveltal last year, anon.
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>>24854620
About that...
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