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>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Pokémon XY&Z trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslzWsBSGHI

>Movie 19: Pokémon the Movie XY 3 [Summer 2016]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/

>Hoopa manga scanlation project
http://pastebin.com/rZCknkqp

Next episode:
>XY&Z02: Hot-blooded Quilladin! Squishy is Being Targeted!! [Nov 5th]

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z03: Mega Audino VS Giga Giga Meowth!! [Nov 12th]
>XY&Z04: Litleo and Pyroar! A Fiery Departure!! [Nov 19th]
>XY&Z05: Pikachu Dreams of Squishy! [Nov 26th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Ask Bonnie about it.

>Where did Mariya Ise go?
Maternity leave. Mika Kanai is temporarily filling in for her as Eureka while she's gone.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY, but their releases can happen any time of the week.

>Muh dubs when?
November 7th, A Trip Down Memory Train!

Old thread:
>>24581497
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XY93 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_093_Double_Battle_at_the_Hyakkoku_Gym!_Gojika's_Future_Sight!![H264_720P][3C7FE6BD].mkv.torrent

The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=750379

XY&Z01 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=750371

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z02: HOT-BLOODED HARIBORG! SQUISHY IS BEING TARGETED!! (NOVEMBER 5TH)
>A wild Hariborg falls in love with Serena's Eievui at first sight!? Also, if you participate in today's data broadcast, you will receive a universal serial code with which you can obtain an "Alternate-colored Yveltal" in your video game.

>Summary:
>While Serena was practicing for her Tripokalon together with Eievui, a wild Hariborg suddenly appeared! Incredibly, it appears this Hariborg had fallen in love with Eievui at first sight. But while the Hariborg keeps trying to show off, it appears to have the exact opposite effect on Eievui than intended... What will the conclusion to Hariborg's love be!?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mika Kanai: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Rikako Aikawa: Hariborg
>Yuka Terasaki: Onbat
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Kenta Miyake: Maaiika
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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>Data broadcast:
>"The three-week-straight data broadcast giveaway campaign"
>In today's data broadcast, a "universal serial code" for receiving an "alternate-colored Yveltal" in your Pocket Monsters X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire" video game will be announced!
>*the exact timing of the "universal serial code" announcement varies by television.
>How to receive:
>Once the show has started, press the d-button on your remote to participate in the data broadcast. Then, use the button in the top right of the data broadcast screen to enter the screen where the "universal serial code" can be seen. Finally, enter the announced "universal serial code" in a Nintendo 3DS "Pocket Monsters X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire" video game that's connected to the Internet to obtain the Pokémon.

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 6 (Nov 8th)

XY&Z03: Mega Audino VS Giga Giga Meowth!! (Nov 12th)
>As they continue their journey, Ash and friends discover that a Joy, who's working at a Pokémon Center, has been trapped behind a rock and can't move. After rescuing Joy, she tells them she studies Mega Evolution out of admiration for Professor Sycamore. Joy guides them to the Pokémon Center, but for some reason they can't enter it.

XY&Z04: Litleo and Pyroar! A Fiery Departure!! (Nov 19th)
>As Ash and his friends continue their journey, they witness a Litleo about to leave its pride in order to live on its own. However, in addition to Ash and his friends, a mysterious shadow has its eyes fixed on the Litleo as well.

XY&Z05: Pikachu Dreams of Squishy! (Nov 26th)
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RIP Caitlin, we hardly knew you.
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>face-off against Team Flare in the new OP, including Alan and Zygarde 50%
>Bonnie is front and center with a death glare
Just make her the main character already.
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>BIT BY BIT
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>tfw you're a male Serena with betaness issues
>tfw you already missed on your chance to get with your female Ash

pls kill me
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>>24587149
>not bit by bit
Come on, at least pretend to watch.
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>>24587149
Why is she so cute
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>>24587146
That's because Bonnie holds the key to all of this.
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>>24587155
Because she's in love.
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>>24587123
Bonnie comforting Manon like this when?
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>>24587146
Bonnie >>>>>>>>>> Max
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>>24587160
>her smile has to be sacrificed in order to restore Manon's
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>>24587144
>>>/pol/
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>>24587167
>Bonnie: Don't worry, onee-chan.
Manon is touched but then gets annoyed that a kid is treating her as such a kid despite being older.
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>>24587151
You sound more like Chespin.
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>>24587160
What would happen if George Lucas directed the next Pokemon Movie?
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>>24587146
Why is Serena touching the ribbon
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>>24587181
It would be so dense.
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>>24587184
Because she's in love.
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>>24587184
Ash bought it for her.
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>>24587184
>MEGA CHINKA!
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>>24587184
She's about to Mega Evolve
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>>24587184
its just the "hand on heart" gesture
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>>24587184
because shut up
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>>24587146
But Bonnie is already the second protag of XY&Z.
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>>24587201
>Clemont has already been Brock'd
Poor kid
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>>24587195
>ribbon is placed in that exact spot so she keeps a bit of Ash close to her
Pottery by Omode and Tomioka.
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>>24587201
>they're testing the waters for a MC Bonnie

Please God, do it.
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>>24587206
>Implying this wasn't going to happen

It's been the Ash&Serena Show Featuring Bonnie with some Science for quite some time.
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>>24587146
>short-hair serena in fedora uniform

goddamn, hoped they would change this in new season
fucking dropped
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>>24587195
But the placement of the ribbon is too perfect
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>>24587188
Lotta loyalty for a bought ribbon
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>>24587226
true
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>>24587228
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>>24587219
>Bonnie become MC for new region
>still have Dedenne
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>>24587246
What will Ash be doing?
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>>24587246
>hating on based dedenne
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>>24587252
making babies
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>>24587252
Retire to become a Frontier Brain and settle down with Serena
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>>24587252
Become the next Brock.
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>>24587252
Elite Four while staying in Kalos to help Sycamore's research on Mega Evolution and the study of Ash-Greninja.
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>>24587265
Where will Serena be?
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>>24587252
Do nothing for 5 years until pokemon realizes they fucked up and bring Ash back.
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>>24587284
Kalos being an idol slut.
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>>24587284
Pleases old men for money
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>>24587301
>>24587313
Misty please.
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>>24587290
>they bring Ash back
>he's younger than his OS self
>"He's totally not Ash guys!"
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>>24587284
>Serena not being with Ash as they both serve as the Brock
C'mon son.
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>>24587201
I got crazy when that happened. Based director delivering everything i could dream of.

>>24587219
It WILL happen, anon. Teenager Bonnie as protagonist.
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Let's put Bonnie into the previous seasons.
Would that particular season improves?
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>>24587320
>not knowing that all idols end up being sluts
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>>24587252
Legendary Pokémon Master with all that yadda-yadda-yadda status that rarely appears in public and lives at Pallet with his wife and kids.

Bonnie is MC and wannabe reporter girl is her companion because she thinks that Bonnie is a fast way to meet the Ash.

Meowth is the brock-esque companion, giving hints with his years of experience and helping to understand pokémon feelings.
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>>24587384
I am genuinely scared the old lady will come back and steal her
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>>24587376
to be honest, she would be annoying as fuck on BW, because she would see iris as a role model, like she does with serena, and we know that having fucking iris as your "big sister" cant end well

nothing fixes BW
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>>24587379
>yfw all Tripokalon participants end up being slut
>yfw slutty Nene
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>>24587376
OS - Call out Ash, Misty, and Brock's shit.
AG - Call out Max's shit and be bros with May, probably start admiring Ash.
DP - Super admires Ash and Dawn, and will be bros with Croagunk
BW - Call out EVERYONE on their shit, and will especially be smug at Iris for being such a fucking kid.
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>>24587384
>Yashio not telling Serena to spread the word of TriPokalons to other regions
Sorry anon, maybe in another life for you.
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>>24587404
Bonnie will probably also call out OS Pikachu's shit
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>>24587403
>Koutaros is actually making a Nene doujin
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>>24587379
>not knowing about the living ribbon that changes size to defend Serena
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>b8 and butthurt amourfags

See y'all in a few hours
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>>24587414
>Indigo League
>Bonnie gets really super mad at not not only Charizard, but the entire league for allowing competitor's Pokemon to be stolen and later be saved by another competitor who as a result tired his Pokemon out
>gets really mad at the referee.
>she will be the only one who is worried for depressed Ash after he was knocked out of the league instead of everybody else blaming him for the loss because he didn't train Charizard properly
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>>24587379
Not really related but i always imagine that shit.

Japanese have all that "must be pure, can't have boyfriend" and shit, but i just imagine that like hentai. They have to keep a "safe" image but after the shows and such they probably need to satisfy old faceless men such as sponsors.
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>>24587393
Shhhh, just enjoy the ride

>>24587408
>>24587409
>>24587410

Serena's dream is to become KALOS Queen, that being said she doesn't want just to become a top performer, she wants to become Queen in a particular region. The scenario in which she could possible follow Ash is if she wins at her first try which its unlikely because NONE female (or for the record any) companion has ever accomplished their dreams at their first try (aka Dawn, aka May, aka Iris, etc etc)

IF she doesn't win at her first try what do you think she'll do delusional faggets?
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>>24587379
who's this cutie
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>>24587414
Bonnie will be the one to take care of Togepi and actually properly utilizes its potential. Misty would then have time to actually become a better water pokemon trainer and then Water Pokemon Master as she had claimed.
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>>24587439
There have actually been news stories of real life Japanese idols being fired and then fined money for sleeping with fans in hotel rooms.
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>>24587396
I know someone who would make it better.
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>>24587454
And then there's Hirano
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>>24587451
And that Togepi will be released just to crush her heart.
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>>24587461
;_;
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If Bonnie was in AG I wonder if she would be the one to befriend Jirachi and Ralts instead of Max.
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Bonnie and Manon should hang out and share their mutual suffering.
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>>24587446
So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions, CAN'T prepare by experiencing new things while still promoting TriPokalons because of Yashio, and CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?

You know they haven't mentioned anything about not using the keys she has again unlike they have Contest ribbons.

Also, what the hell are you even including Iris for, what she's trying to accomplish is what Misty's trying to. They're completely different from May and Dawn.
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>>24587426
Surprisingly subtle edit you have there
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>>24587454
>>24587458

W-what le fug.

Tell me more about this, please.
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>>24587464
Definitely, and I wouldn't to have cringe the entire movie because Max and Jirachi just don't fit .
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>>24587481
Your stale bait doesn't count as proof.
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>>24587454
>>24587458
Story time.

Now.
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>>24587480
Aya Hirano fucked the bassist of her band, it got public, and she was extremely unapologetic about it.
It semi-destroyed her career for a while, but she's managed to largely rebuild it now.
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>>24587376
She replaces Max in AG, having an extra female is always better than having a useless male character on the show.
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>>24587494
Wait, I thought it was everyone but the bassist.
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>>24587431
Feel free to stay in tumblr and not return.
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>>24587501
Will she have brown hair and become May's imouto?
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>>24587494
>some thought Haruhi S3 isn't happening because of her
>she returns in Yuki-chan anyway
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>>24587473
Are you one of those folks that believe Amour is amounting something?
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>>24587473
>So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions

How is she going to accomplish her dream of becoming KALOS QUEEN in other regions apart from Kalos? magic? asspulls? pfff Stop being delusional!

> CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?
She can, but she needs to gain her entrance back in Kalos, in KALOS

>Also, what the hell are you even including Iris for
To support my statement about how Serena's unlikely to accomplish her dream at her first try (in the series she belongs)

Admit it, this is leading to a kill road. Serena WILL stay in Kalos.
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>>24587502
It was, my faggot brain misremembered
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>>24587515
Its possible tripokalon's are in other regions. When Hoenn was airing for the first time people assumed Contests were only in Hoenn, then they magically showed up in Kanto despite Ash not seeing any the first time they were there.

They call it Kalos queen here, but for all we know there could be a Sinnoh queen, Hoenn queen, etc. too.
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>>24587515
>Admit it, this is leading to a kill road


Also leading to Serena ending up with Clemont or Tierno.
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>>24587494
>>24587502

L-lewd.
>everyone but the bassist

Holy fuck, she's really in heat. Now everytime i read a doujin i'll believe it's true in japan.

Also, i can be mistaken but, wasn't that the girl that got bald and everything?
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>>24587262
it's literally just babby raichu

even emolga rip-off of pachirisu wasn't that lazy job
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>>24587526
No. Not really. I actually suspect Clemont being gay and Tierno ending up with Shauna
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>>24587509
Just saying she is better of as replacement for Max, if she is added as extra character she only takes screentime away from other important characters. She isn't a bad character but she already takes too much time away from the main girl at the moment. The whole story of Puni/Zygarde will make Bonnie the center of attention instead of Serena.
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>>24587531
Google Hirano sex scandal and read up on it if you're interested.
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>>24587515
>How is she going to accomplish her dream of becoming KALOS QUEEN in other regions apart from Kalos? magic? asspulls? pfff Stop being delusional!
>She can, but she needs to gain her entrance back in Kalos, in KALOS
Answer is literally right there:
>So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions, CAN'T prepare by experiencing new things while still promoting TriPokalons because of Yashio, and CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?
>You know they haven't mentioned anything about not using the keys she has again unlike they have Contest ribbons.

>To support my statement about how Serena's unlikely to accomplish her dream at her first try (in the series she belongs)
Iris doesn't support anything because her goal is literally what Misty has. She has no contest/competition other than random battle tournaments. If anything, that's hurting your argument.
>Admit it, this is leading to a kill road. Serena WILL stay in Kalos.
Again, read the first post again.
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>>24587545
Serena is a more passive character in general. If Bonnie was on the cast when May and Dawn were around, they would still get more screentime than her.
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>>24587511
>>24587526
At least try with your bait.
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>>24587246
It works though. You get a new protag, and keep an electric mouse as the mascot.
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>>24587551
Anon, really I pity you. When the moment of departure occurs you will suffer a lot.
Well, I've warned you, mate. Enjoy it while your autism enables you to
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you know the drill, attach this pic to another image to get funny results

works better with lewd images

go
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>>24587563
>Dedenne suddenly evolves into Pikachu
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>>24587531
That's someone different. I don't know about Hirano being in heat and shit, I think it was more that she just felt like screwing in the band. I recall that happening in a good portion of rock bands.
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>>24587581
>Dedenne evolves into Raichu as an alternative to Pikachu, resulting in the series' first pokémon to have two significantly different pre-evolutions
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>>24587531
>Holy fuck, she's really in heat. Now everytime i read a doujin i'll believe it's true in japan.

That's nothing. try showing a nice gesture to a cake and you can practically feel the heat from her.
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>>24587560
There are a lot of things a passive girl can do, she should be the one that has Puni. Besides that there are a lot of opportunities for Serena to do cute stuff with Pokemon but it's all wasted on Bonnie. Bonnie shouldn't even have the right to hold any Pokemon, she isn't even a trainer.
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>>24587574
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>>24587592
>Raichu eventually gets retconned as just Dedenne's evolution
>Pikachu immediately gets a mega
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>>24587604
Bonnie is as much a female lead this saga as Serena is. Bonnie is amazing anyway so I don't see the complaints. Serena gets her screentime but she's always been very passive in filler episodes or eps that don't focus on her.
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>>24587604
Serena has her Tripokalon schtick, giving Puni to her will severely imbalance the importance/screentime of the characters.

Hell, even now Clemont will be feeling the sting of this as he now has nothing to do other than lust after Ash and being Bonnie's brother.
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>>24587609
>Mega Pikachu
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>>24587604
Serena's serving as Ash's anchor.
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>>24587612
Bonnie is too young to be a waifu character, so the main girl should be focused on.
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>>24587624
Age is only a number.
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>>24587608
>Jessie with whip

Woah. just woah
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>>24587623
Did somebody say "anchor"?
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Serena = Useless
Bonnie = Useless

There.
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>>24587636
I respect your opinion, m8. But it's objectively shit and you should kill yourself because of it.
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>>24587604
Stay salty, Bonnie is the best.

Reminded me a bit when I once lurked serebii and read comments about Ash eating up Serena's screentime.
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>>24587573
So that's really all you have to say then? This is why you get called out as an emofag a lot of the times.
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>>24587628
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>>24587631
What is this, a cruise liner for ants?
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Tierno clearly to stick it into Shauna
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>>24587682
I approve
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>>24587682
I approve too
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>>24587682
Ingles por favor.
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>>24587676
No, she's an ocean liner.

If you can get me a higher-quality screen cap of the ship from the flashback from the episode where Ash and Serena high-fived, be my guest, but until then that's the best-quality image I have of the Cussler.
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>>24587682
Prof. Oak please
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>>24587716
>implying
You just gave up and decided to throw the buckets into the water, didn't you?
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>Cynthia returns
>she's looking all gloomy throughout the episode
>Ash ask her why
>she keep it silent
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>>24587728
So, what kind of boat is Ash and Serena?
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>>24587748
NICE BOAT

>captcha is boat too
Well then
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>>24587748
We went over this before: a Yamato-class battleship compared to Pokéshipping's Bismarck.

Pokéshipping, like Bismarck, was the strongest ship of its time, but it sank years and years ago, and has now been surpassed in every conceivable class by a ship that (canonically speaking) existed at the time but was considerably lesser-known and existed on the other side of the globe.
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>>24587747
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>>24587728
Ash and Serena one-upping high touch and the Cussler weren't in the same episode.
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>>24587742
What are you talking about? Do you really think Serena getting worried about Ash is something special when Dawn had episodes about it before? Like where she tried to run in a save Ash from raging Chimchar but Brock stopped her. All those times she called his name out. Even Iris screamedAsh's name in worry during episode N and it go special focus


How about all this "progress" Amour has apparently made? By your understanding, Serena admitted to wanting Ash in XY80. Okay, if we go with that then XY90 pretty much nullifies that because she's doing nothing to try and win Ash. So, you're back to square one.
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>>24587748
Both are the Titanic, Serena will also be Jack..
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>>24587780
Wow, you really did give up and decided to throw it all and see what stuck, didn't you?
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>>24587765
I don't know my ships too well, but what are the Yamamto's? Aren't they not made anymore?
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>>24587787
>Yashio was Serena from the future all along

N O L A N
O
L
A
N
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>>24587765
Isn't Pokeshipping mostly because 4Kids added a bunch of hints that weren't even in the original? Granted it was still the strongest ship of its time but partly because of dub edits? I am not really much of a shipper since Ash having a notable relation with the female of that region is expected. Its just more visible now in XY since Serena has feelings for Ash, whereas Misty, May, Dawn and Iris didn't crush on Ash.

With Misty it was mostly dub edits to hint at their relationship more, with May she was more likely to have a crush on Drew than Ash, with Dawn I'd argue she same but with Zoey, and as for Iris, from what I remember she was more independent (not having a crush on anyone).

Are there Amour hints? Yes. Is it progressing each time? No. Odds are the Ash/Serena thing won't go anywhere just like past relations so I won't raise my expectations to an unrealistic level.
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>>24587801
Desperation is a nasty lady, especially with bad baiters.

They should go to other waters.
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>>24587780
What are you talking about? Serena being worried about Ash has been a constant thing that's gotten more focus than Dawn and Iris. That's just one part of it but it's not the only thing that makes it special.

As for XY80 and XY90, just because she admits it once doesn't mean she has to constantly admit it even though she didn't hide it from Shauna and tried to shift the conversation to avoid being put on the spot, so how the fuck is that even cancelling out?
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>>24587817
>with Dawn I'd argue she same but with Zoey
And there goes your credibility.
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>>24587804
Of course you'd agree with bait. You work in the bait shop after all.
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>>24587766
It's because of the death of Caitlin's seiyuu.
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>>24587776
Woops, my bad, I forgot that they used the rods in a different episode than they got them.

Much obliged on the high-resolution screenshot!

I like the name Cussler for a ship that is very clearly the Titanic with only minor modifications, because as far as I can think, the name appears to be a reference to "Raise the Titanic!", via the author's last name, which makes it by far the most obscure reference to that ship I have ever encountered.
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>>24587845
TOO SOON
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>>24587849
No they used the fishing rods in the Cussler episode, but the high five with fishing rods was the previous episode with the Golden Magikarp.
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>>24587845
Don't remind her...
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>>24587765
I don't think that is a fair comparison.
Bismarck was the one who delievered doom to Hood. That's a great feat. It's impossible to emphasize how important it was for the allies to get revenge and their goal was to literally sink Bismarck regardless of the cost.

The Yamato-ships were more heavily armed, but they never achieved much and all sank before the war was over.

Bismarck loved and lost, while Yamat ships never loved at all.
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>>24587845
too soon anon
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>>24587802
The Yamato class had been the largest battleships ever made. Over 150 anti-aircraft guns, nine 18-inch guns (compared to the Iowa class's nine 16-inch guns), as much as over 2 feet of armor in some places, and some 70,000 tons in weight.

The ships had unfortunate ends in World War II (in the form of taking over a dozen torpedo hits and several bomb hits from turbospammed American planes when most ships would go down with a fourth or a fifth of what these ships took), but if anything that just makes the comparison stronger since the only thing that could bring Amour down at this point would be some incredibly major, powerful, or calamitous plot event. That is to say, they wouldn't be able to sink the ship subtly.

Similarly, when Yamato sank, all three of her ammunition stores detonated, which resulted in pic related. I imagine the fan reaction from amour being sunk would be quite similar.
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>>24587817
Another reason calling that ship Bismarck is fitting: Yamato and amour were both built in Japan, while Bismarck and Pokéshipping were built up outside of Japan.
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>>24587861
Oh yeah, I remember now, they got the episode in the same episode as the high-five, but they simply used them in the opening to the Cussler episode.

Damn, it's been too long since I saw those episodes, apparently. I managed to forget the details of the episode that had my waifu in it!
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>>24587829
>so how the fuck is that even cancelling out?

Because she's just as afraid to admit it as she was way back in XY007? People will argue "Oh, she touched his shoulders in XY70, or she indirectly admitted it in XY80", but what does it matter when everytime it could be perceived as such she tries to change the subject (XY40, XY90) or tries to hide it?
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>>24587849
>>24587865
>>24587882
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>>24587925
You are correct, sir
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>>24587817
Its also because Misty was the only girl for 5 years and back then nobody could have predicted Misty would be removed from the series. The reason Pokeshippers got so angry when Misty left is because they saw her as the #2 most important character after Ash.
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>>24587929
>sir
fuck off to reddit
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>>24587925
>yfw someone puts that transparent background Pikachu and Dedenne into this image alongside or on top of Pikachu and Dedenne
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>that Origins thread
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>>24587905
Except that's fucking wrong. XY7 she indirectly tried. She's a bit more open about it but she's trying to avoid being put on the spot. Just because she isn't telling everyone she likes Ash doesn't mean it's cancelling anything out.
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>Welcome to the Mewtario Ship Fetish Discussion Thread
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>>24587882
>oy Mewtario, how's you Siemakaze?
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>>24587968
>two people talk about the Cussler and the fishing episodes
>everything else is whatever that is
It feels weird.
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>>24587984
I wound up chasing absolutely every line in the game. I'm working up the credits for a Lexington because I ended up discovering the beauty of American aircraft carrier design and want a Midway because of how similar she is to modern carriers, and every other line is Tier VI or VII except for my Tier V Russian destroyer and my free-experienced Admiral Hipper.
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>>24587967
>XY7 she indirectly tried

Giving cookies to a guy is not indirectly admitting she wants him. Especially when she gave everyone else cookies too.

>She's a bit more open about it

If she's not making a move on Ash or seen trying to tell him she likes him…she's not being more open about it.
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The best part about baiters using "Amour has no progression" as an argument against it is that even if that were true it wouldn't mean jackshit in regards to its chances of becoming canon. Just look at NaruHina or a bunch of other shonen/kids stuff. Time skip, bam, married, easy
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>>24588007
You're just throwing the bait shop into the water, aren't you? Is this how bad it's gotten for you? This is actually kind of depressing.
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>>24588007
Except that you're wrong on both accounts.
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>>24588009
Naruto/Hinata actually did have some progression though, just not in the way that was expected. That's really more of the reason why Ash/Serena is really closer to Naruto/Hinata, it's progressing, just not in the expected way.
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Ash is going to at least get runner up in the league right?
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>>24588056
Ash/Serena is probably better developed than Naruto/Hinata.
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>>24588009
>>24588056
I should probably word this better. Ash/Serena is progressing but they're using cues from Naruto/Hinata.
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>>24588059

What a fucking disappointment for Ash to get to the championship game just to lose. Ash's rotation of Pokemon in Sinnoh was a good enough troupe to have won the league if not for Tobias. Heck he was the only trainer to knock out one of his Pokemon, let alone two.
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>>24588009
Naruto is like the prime example of how to not write romance though.
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>episode where the group is stuck in a city with little to do that day
>Ash sleeps in after everybody else has woken up
>Clemont and Bonnie go off to do something maybe procreate or some shit I dunno and tell Serena to wake Ash up by the time they get back
>Serena gets a crazy (but too fun not to try) idea to startle him out of bed
>she crawls into bed next to him and gently tells him, "Ash, it's time to wake up."
>Serena's face when, getting startled by how close her face is to his, Ash instead wraps an arm around her without even waking up and says "Just a few more minutes, dear." in his sleep
>Serena starts mentally making up excuses about how this might not be what she immediately thinks it is, but decides to play along, saying "But we have so much to do today!"
>Ash: "But Serena, we haven't had anything to do since I became a Pokemon Master! We haven't even moved into our new house yet!"

>the implications and ramifications of that sentence make Serena lose her composure

how qt would it be?
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>>24588083
kek I know but I don't care as long as it's canon
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>>24588086
*>Serena's face when, instead of getting startled

fuck, nothing worse than messing up a greentext
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>>24588086
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>>24588086
Your fanfiction isn't coming true, anon. Ash x Serena is not gonna happen.
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>>24588086

>Even thinking a situation like this would ever occur

My, autism is a marvelous thing.
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People fail to realize Ash/Serena was created by the writers themselves when they didn't have to do this. Why would they make Serena have such a huge crush on Ash with a backstory?

Serena could have just been the next May/Dawn and just had a good friendship with Ash, but they went the extra mile. If/when Serena leaves and nothing happens, nobody will ever believe a shipping plot with Ash would happen again. This is the first and only chance they can do this.
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>>24588097
>Ash x Serena is not gonna happen.
>implying
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>>24588101
Unless you think that, miraculously, XYZ is going to be the last season, it's not going to happen. Typically, couples are formed when a show is ending.

And we know Ash's adventure will go on until the games start dying (aka in 50 years).
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What would be a good second date for Ash and Serena?
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>>24588109
>couples are formed when a show is ending.

Clemont and Serena. There's still plenty of time to set it up.
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>>24588111
A real one
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>>24588101
No, it's nothing but a ratings draw. Ash and Serena isn't going to amount to anything? May and Drew never confessed to each other or kissed. In fact when May came back she barely mentioned Drew and when she did he was mentioned along with Harely…and nothing was mentioned about her crush on Drew at all. Considering the fact that May/Drew was built up only for nothing to happen should show they that they won't do jack with Ash/Serena.
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>>24588113
Except they're setting up Ash and Serena.
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I really love the idea of Ash getting an endgame, and I'd be fine with getting a new MC, but there's one huge flaw that makes me think it'll never happen.

They would never in a million years replace Pikachu as the protagonist's Pokemon. Ever.

How could a new protagonist ever work in Pokemon?
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>>24588123
>May and Drew being the same as Ash and Serena
You're just letting it all fly out aren't you?
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>>24588127
They've actually shown Pikachu with other trainers recently. The girl from Johto in Cilan and Brock's special and in the Diancie movie.
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>>24588099
it sure brings happiness in this dull world
>>24588086
it would be over the top
cut off last three > and we're here
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>>24588127
They could just have a new protagonist with Pikachu as his main Pokemon.

Look at Adventures. Red's first mon was Poliwhirl, then he got Bulbasaur as his "starter". Yet, by far, the mon he uses the most and talks with the most is Pikachu, because he's the maskot of the series.

Not that I think Ash will ever get replaced, but if he does, there's no reason a new MC can't have Pikachu as his main. Hell, the show could even pull a timeskip out of its ass and have Ash's kid travel with Ash's original Pikachu/that Pikachu's kid.
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>>24588143
>They could just have a new protagonist with Pikachu as his main Pokemon.

kinda redundant replacing him
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>>24588132
What has you so convinced that Ash and Serena are going to get together? It really doesn't matter if one is more pushed than the other.

Pokeshipping got an entire movie dedicated to it to some extent, and yet it was almost entirely dropped in the very next series, rarely being touched on again outside of maybe 1-2 episodes.
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>>24588143

Or Ash as a Battle Frontier Brain trains Bonnie for her to set off on her own journey, and Pikachu wants to go with her?
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>>24588151
>entire movie
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>>24588151
Pokeshipping was rarely even touched in previous seasons. You just gave up and started flinging anything and everything to see what sticks, didn't you?
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>>24588149
Not really, at least Ash gets closure and we can have a new dumb kid who justifiably doesn't know what the fuck a Pidgey will do if you throw your jacket on it.

I just want Ash to get a happy ending. It'd be like finding out that your old fuckup pal from elementary school got his life together and ended up happily married with a nice job.
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>>24588151
>entire movie

Huh? You mean 2000?
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>>24588101
>people not realizing its a Scott post.
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>>24588152
nah, separating bros won't work
we need an egg
very special egg
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>>24588151
Pokeshipping was also disliked by the head writer at the time and back then they had no clue they would be replacing Misty in general.

Amour was created long after the cycle of girls had been established and its written by the head writing staff.
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>>24588167
>implying one of the people that responded to it wasn't one of the stalebaiters
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>>24588162
2000 had quite a few Misty moments, although only from her side.
I'd say there was more Pokeshipping in 2000 than Amour in any of the two latest movies.
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I'm getting into the XY anime and am up to 88 with every episode up to 93 downloaded, any other essential episodes/things im missing? i'm downloading the first XY movie right now so its just the mega evolution special and the other movie right?
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>>24588172
>Amour was created long after the cycle of girls had been established and its written by the head writing staff.

But it doesn't really matter. The Pokemon anime has shown they aren't committed to closing the loop of having teased pairings get together among the MC's. Just because Ash/Serena has promotion and more hints than usual within the series does't mean they'll follow though. It'll likely just end on some generic promise to see each other again.

And why would they choose Serena of all the girls anyway?
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>>24588151
>Pokeshipping got an entire movie dedicated to it to some extent
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>>24588211
And Amour hasn't gotten any kind of movie to it at all.
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>>24588201
They chose Serena because it was the gen they decided to start this romance with? Its also possible they did this now because its after BW and the anime is headed toward its 20th anniversary.
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>>24588190
Yes.
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>>24588201
The only record of that is May/Drew and it sure as hell wasn't treated the same as Ash/Serena.
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I just thought of something guys.

What if they gave greninja a new form, which as far as we know isn't a mega evolution, just so that Ash can still get a mega evolution.

for example, Megazard Y
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>>24588222
Every movie is an Amour movie.
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>>24588245
Don't reply to him, is pointless
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>>24588243
>mfw
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>>24588258
I still wonder where Ash learned such an archaic way to hold her hand.

It's not like there wasn't any other way to do it: in the Mirror episode they hold onto each other's forearms, so it's very deliberate.
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>>24588243
>Ash gets both a Super Greninja and a Mega Charizard Y

Who could stop him without using Legendaries?
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>>24588267
>Who could stop him without using Legendaries?
>implying legendaries could
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>>24588316
As it should be.
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>>24588316
I knew Bayleaf is hot, but not THAT hot to dump Serena for her.
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>>24588316
>>24588319
>>24588320
Nah.
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>>24588236
Again, it doesn't matter if it's "not treated the same" there are certain things they writers have shown they are no committed to, and that's allowing Ash to win the league and getting characters in the main cast together with their respective crushes. The hints between Ash/Serena aren't all that different from the ones May/Drew got, they are just more numerous because they are two main characters.
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>>24588345
Are you trying to throw the bait so badly that you're purposely contradicting your own posts?
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>>24588358
>May/Drew
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Roses)
>Girl spills spaghetti

>Ash/Serena
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Ribbon)
>Girl spills spaghetti
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>>24588380
Way to ignore everything else that makes Ash/Serena different just to bait champ.
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thread is lying in pile of it's own feces right now
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Fuuuuuck I just realized something

You know how Ash will just sporadically compliment Serena, and do stuff like holding her hand to help her across those logs? There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he does them, but they're definitely there. But when the situation is romantic, he often doesn't even notice.

He thinks they're dating already, ever since he asked her to come along with him. But he's also a dense shonen who doesn't understand romance. The entire journey has been the date. Occasionally he'll have a hasubando brainwave and act accordingly.
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>>24588402
Thanks you too .
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>>24588406
>There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he does them
Yes there is. He's being a caring husbando.
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>>24588396
The basics are all there. What's different other than the fact that they are on the main cast? Nothing, especially given most of the hints are similar.
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>>24588420
>>24588396
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>>24588424
>still not providing evidence of what's different

I accept your concession
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>>24588461
>still trying to bait when the evidence is in XY

I accept your concession
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Fucking stop with the emoji already.
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>evidence in XY

>May/Drew
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Roses)
>Girl spills spaghetti

>Ash/Serena
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Ribbon)
>Girl spills spaghetti
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>>24588519
>>24588396
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Holy shit is everything being deleted now are the mods actually alive

BASED
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Hey Adamant, if you're here can we still expect subs at some point today?
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She'll be there to pick Ash back up when he loses confidence right?
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>>24588558
So this was the moment the salt became real for her then?
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No. She is useless to Ash's development. She is a leech.
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Anyone see that picture of confirmed Pokemon in upcoming episodes? Darkrai was in ep 6 or 7 I think. Was it a real image or some fake shit?
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>ywn bully the Barza
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>>24588567
>asking when the answer is obviously yes
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>>24588577
It's real anon. But maybe it'll be in a flashback or something.
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Anyone else here who hates Serena?

I hate her mostly because she's useless
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>>24588577
What picture?
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