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>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Pokémon XY&Z trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslzWsBSGHI

>Movie 19: Pokémon the Movie XY 3 [Summer 2016]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/

>Hoopa manga scanlation project
http://pastebin.com/rZCknkqp

Next episode:
>XY&Z02: Hot-blooded Quilladin! Squishy is Being Targeted!! [Nov 5th]

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z03: Mega Audino VS Giga Giga Meowth!! [Nov 12th]
>XY&Z04: Litleo and Pyroar! A Fiery Departure!! [Nov 19th]
>XY&Z05: Pikachu Dreams of Squishy! [Nov 26th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Ask Bonnie about it.

>Where did Mariya Ise go?
Maternity leave. Mika Kanai is temporarily filling in for her as Eureka while she's gone.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY, but their releases can happen any time of the week.

>Muh dubs when?
November 7th, A Trip Down Memory Train!

Old thread:
>>24581497
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XY93 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_093_Double_Battle_at_the_Hyakkoku_Gym!_Gojika's_Future_Sight!![H264_720P][3C7FE6BD].mkv.torrent

The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=750379

XY&Z01 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=750371

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z02: HOT-BLOODED HARIBORG! SQUISHY IS BEING TARGETED!! (NOVEMBER 5TH)
>A wild Hariborg falls in love with Serena's Eievui at first sight!? Also, if you participate in today's data broadcast, you will receive a universal serial code with which you can obtain an "Alternate-colored Yveltal" in your video game.

>Summary:
>While Serena was practicing for her Tripokalon together with Eievui, a wild Hariborg suddenly appeared! Incredibly, it appears this Hariborg had fallen in love with Eievui at first sight. But while the Hariborg keeps trying to show off, it appears to have the exact opposite effect on Eievui than intended... What will the conclusion to Hariborg's love be!?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mika Kanai: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Rikako Aikawa: Hariborg
>Yuka Terasaki: Onbat
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Kenta Miyake: Maaiika
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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>Data broadcast:
>"The three-week-straight data broadcast giveaway campaign"
>In today's data broadcast, a "universal serial code" for receiving an "alternate-colored Yveltal" in your Pocket Monsters X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire" video game will be announced!
>*the exact timing of the "universal serial code" announcement varies by television.
>How to receive:
>Once the show has started, press the d-button on your remote to participate in the data broadcast. Then, use the button in the top right of the data broadcast screen to enter the screen where the "universal serial code" can be seen. Finally, enter the announced "universal serial code" in a Nintendo 3DS "Pocket Monsters X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire" video game that's connected to the Internet to obtain the Pokémon.

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 6 (Nov 8th)

XY&Z03: Mega Audino VS Giga Giga Meowth!! (Nov 12th)
>As they continue their journey, Ash and friends discover that a Joy, who's working at a Pokémon Center, has been trapped behind a rock and can't move. After rescuing Joy, she tells them she studies Mega Evolution out of admiration for Professor Sycamore. Joy guides them to the Pokémon Center, but for some reason they can't enter it.

XY&Z04: Litleo and Pyroar! A Fiery Departure!! (Nov 19th)
>As Ash and his friends continue their journey, they witness a Litleo about to leave its pride in order to live on its own. However, in addition to Ash and his friends, a mysterious shadow has its eyes fixed on the Litleo as well.

XY&Z05: Pikachu Dreams of Squishy! (Nov 26th)
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RIP Caitlin, we hardly knew you.
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>face-off against Team Flare in the new OP, including Alan and Zygarde 50%
>Bonnie is front and center with a death glare
Just make her the main character already.
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>BIT BY BIT
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>tfw you're a male Serena with betaness issues
>tfw you already missed on your chance to get with your female Ash

pls kill me
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>>24587149
>not bit by bit
Come on, at least pretend to watch.
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>>24587149
Why is she so cute
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>>24587146
That's because Bonnie holds the key to all of this.
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>>24587155
Because she's in love.
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>>24587123
Bonnie comforting Manon like this when?
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>>24587146
Bonnie >>>>>>>>>> Max
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>>24587160
>her smile has to be sacrificed in order to restore Manon's
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>>24587144
>>>/pol/
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>>24587167
>Bonnie: Don't worry, onee-chan.
Manon is touched but then gets annoyed that a kid is treating her as such a kid despite being older.
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>>24587151
You sound more like Chespin.
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>>24587160
What would happen if George Lucas directed the next Pokemon Movie?
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>>24587146
Why is Serena touching the ribbon
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>>24587181
It would be so dense.
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>>24587184
Because she's in love.
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>>24587184
Ash bought it for her.
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>>24587184
>MEGA CHINKA!
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>>24587184
She's about to Mega Evolve
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>>24587184
its just the "hand on heart" gesture
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>>24587184
because shut up
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>>24587146
But Bonnie is already the second protag of XY&Z.
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>>24587201
>Clemont has already been Brock'd
Poor kid
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>>24587195
>ribbon is placed in that exact spot so she keeps a bit of Ash close to her
Pottery by Omode and Tomioka.
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>>24587201
>they're testing the waters for a MC Bonnie

Please God, do it.
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>>24587206
>Implying this wasn't going to happen

It's been the Ash&Serena Show Featuring Bonnie with some Science for quite some time.
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>>24587146
>short-hair serena in fedora uniform

goddamn, hoped they would change this in new season
fucking dropped
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>>24587195
But the placement of the ribbon is too perfect
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>>24587188
Lotta loyalty for a bought ribbon
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>>24587226
true
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>>24587228
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>>24587219
>Bonnie become MC for new region
>still have Dedenne
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>>24587246
What will Ash be doing?
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>>24587246
>hating on based dedenne
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>>24587252
making babies
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>>24587252
Retire to become a Frontier Brain and settle down with Serena
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>>24587252
Become the next Brock.
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>>24587252
Elite Four while staying in Kalos to help Sycamore's research on Mega Evolution and the study of Ash-Greninja.
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>>24587265
Where will Serena be?
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>>24587252
Do nothing for 5 years until pokemon realizes they fucked up and bring Ash back.
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>>24587284
Kalos being an idol slut.
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>>24587284
Pleases old men for money
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>>24587301
>>24587313
Misty please.
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>>24587290
>they bring Ash back
>he's younger than his OS self
>"He's totally not Ash guys!"
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>>24587284
>Serena not being with Ash as they both serve as the Brock
C'mon son.
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>>24587201
I got crazy when that happened. Based director delivering everything i could dream of.

>>24587219
It WILL happen, anon. Teenager Bonnie as protagonist.
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Let's put Bonnie into the previous seasons.
Would that particular season improves?
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>>24587320
>not knowing that all idols end up being sluts
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>>24587252
Legendary Pokémon Master with all that yadda-yadda-yadda status that rarely appears in public and lives at Pallet with his wife and kids.

Bonnie is MC and wannabe reporter girl is her companion because she thinks that Bonnie is a fast way to meet the Ash.

Meowth is the brock-esque companion, giving hints with his years of experience and helping to understand pokémon feelings.
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>>24587384
I am genuinely scared the old lady will come back and steal her
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>>24587376
to be honest, she would be annoying as fuck on BW, because she would see iris as a role model, like she does with serena, and we know that having fucking iris as your "big sister" cant end well

nothing fixes BW
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>>24587379
>yfw all Tripokalon participants end up being slut
>yfw slutty Nene
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>>24587376
OS - Call out Ash, Misty, and Brock's shit.
AG - Call out Max's shit and be bros with May, probably start admiring Ash.
DP - Super admires Ash and Dawn, and will be bros with Croagunk
BW - Call out EVERYONE on their shit, and will especially be smug at Iris for being such a fucking kid.
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>>24587384
>Yashio not telling Serena to spread the word of TriPokalons to other regions
Sorry anon, maybe in another life for you.
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>>24587404
Bonnie will probably also call out OS Pikachu's shit
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>>24587403
>Koutaros is actually making a Nene doujin
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>>24587379
>not knowing about the living ribbon that changes size to defend Serena
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>b8 and butthurt amourfags

See y'all in a few hours
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>>24587414
>Indigo League
>Bonnie gets really super mad at not not only Charizard, but the entire league for allowing competitor's Pokemon to be stolen and later be saved by another competitor who as a result tired his Pokemon out
>gets really mad at the referee.
>she will be the only one who is worried for depressed Ash after he was knocked out of the league instead of everybody else blaming him for the loss because he didn't train Charizard properly
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>>24587379
Not really related but i always imagine that shit.

Japanese have all that "must be pure, can't have boyfriend" and shit, but i just imagine that like hentai. They have to keep a "safe" image but after the shows and such they probably need to satisfy old faceless men such as sponsors.
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>>24587393
Shhhh, just enjoy the ride

>>24587408
>>24587409
>>24587410

Serena's dream is to become KALOS Queen, that being said she doesn't want just to become a top performer, she wants to become Queen in a particular region. The scenario in which she could possible follow Ash is if she wins at her first try which its unlikely because NONE female (or for the record any) companion has ever accomplished their dreams at their first try (aka Dawn, aka May, aka Iris, etc etc)

IF she doesn't win at her first try what do you think she'll do delusional faggets?
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>>24587379
who's this cutie
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>>24587414
Bonnie will be the one to take care of Togepi and actually properly utilizes its potential. Misty would then have time to actually become a better water pokemon trainer and then Water Pokemon Master as she had claimed.
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>>24587439
There have actually been news stories of real life Japanese idols being fired and then fined money for sleeping with fans in hotel rooms.
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>>24587396
I know someone who would make it better.
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>>24587454
And then there's Hirano
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>>24587451
And that Togepi will be released just to crush her heart.
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>>24587461
;_;
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If Bonnie was in AG I wonder if she would be the one to befriend Jirachi and Ralts instead of Max.
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Bonnie and Manon should hang out and share their mutual suffering.
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>>24587446
So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions, CAN'T prepare by experiencing new things while still promoting TriPokalons because of Yashio, and CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?

You know they haven't mentioned anything about not using the keys she has again unlike they have Contest ribbons.

Also, what the hell are you even including Iris for, what she's trying to accomplish is what Misty's trying to. They're completely different from May and Dawn.
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>>24587426
Surprisingly subtle edit you have there
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>>24587454
>>24587458

W-what le fug.

Tell me more about this, please.
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>>24587464
Definitely, and I wouldn't to have cringe the entire movie because Max and Jirachi just don't fit .
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>>24587481
Your stale bait doesn't count as proof.
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>>24587454
>>24587458
Story time.

Now.
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>>24587480
Aya Hirano fucked the bassist of her band, it got public, and she was extremely unapologetic about it.
It semi-destroyed her career for a while, but she's managed to largely rebuild it now.
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>>24587376
She replaces Max in AG, having an extra female is always better than having a useless male character on the show.
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>>24587494
Wait, I thought it was everyone but the bassist.
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>>24587431
Feel free to stay in tumblr and not return.
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>>24587501
Will she have brown hair and become May's imouto?
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>>24587494
>some thought Haruhi S3 isn't happening because of her
>she returns in Yuki-chan anyway
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>>24587473
Are you one of those folks that believe Amour is amounting something?
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>>24587473
>So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions

How is she going to accomplish her dream of becoming KALOS QUEEN in other regions apart from Kalos? magic? asspulls? pfff Stop being delusional!

> CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?
She can, but she needs to gain her entrance back in Kalos, in KALOS

>Also, what the hell are you even including Iris for
To support my statement about how Serena's unlikely to accomplish her dream at her first try (in the series she belongs)

Admit it, this is leading to a kill road. Serena WILL stay in Kalos.
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>>24587502
It was, my faggot brain misremembered
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>>24587515
Its possible tripokalon's are in other regions. When Hoenn was airing for the first time people assumed Contests were only in Hoenn, then they magically showed up in Kanto despite Ash not seeing any the first time they were there.

They call it Kalos queen here, but for all we know there could be a Sinnoh queen, Hoenn queen, etc. too.
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>>24587515
>Admit it, this is leading to a kill road


Also leading to Serena ending up with Clemont or Tierno.
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>>24587494
>>24587502

L-lewd.
>everyone but the bassist

Holy fuck, she's really in heat. Now everytime i read a doujin i'll believe it's true in japan.

Also, i can be mistaken but, wasn't that the girl that got bald and everything?
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>>24587262
it's literally just babby raichu

even emolga rip-off of pachirisu wasn't that lazy job
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>>24587526
No. Not really. I actually suspect Clemont being gay and Tierno ending up with Shauna
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>>24587509
Just saying she is better of as replacement for Max, if she is added as extra character she only takes screentime away from other important characters. She isn't a bad character but she already takes too much time away from the main girl at the moment. The whole story of Puni/Zygarde will make Bonnie the center of attention instead of Serena.
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>>24587531
Google Hirano sex scandal and read up on it if you're interested.
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>>24587515
>How is she going to accomplish her dream of becoming KALOS QUEEN in other regions apart from Kalos? magic? asspulls? pfff Stop being delusional!
>She can, but she needs to gain her entrance back in Kalos, in KALOS
Answer is literally right there:
>So you're saying Serena CAN'T go to other regions, CAN'T prepare by experiencing new things while still promoting TriPokalons because of Yashio, and CAN'T go back to participate in Master Class?
>You know they haven't mentioned anything about not using the keys she has again unlike they have Contest ribbons.

>To support my statement about how Serena's unlikely to accomplish her dream at her first try (in the series she belongs)
Iris doesn't support anything because her goal is literally what Misty has. She has no contest/competition other than random battle tournaments. If anything, that's hurting your argument.
>Admit it, this is leading to a kill road. Serena WILL stay in Kalos.
Again, read the first post again.
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>>24587545
Serena is a more passive character in general. If Bonnie was on the cast when May and Dawn were around, they would still get more screentime than her.
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>>24587511
>>24587526
At least try with your bait.
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>>24587246
It works though. You get a new protag, and keep an electric mouse as the mascot.
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>>24587551
Anon, really I pity you. When the moment of departure occurs you will suffer a lot.
Well, I've warned you, mate. Enjoy it while your autism enables you to
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its time for some new pics

you know the drill, attach this pic to another image to get funny results

works better with lewd images

go
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>>24587563
>Dedenne suddenly evolves into Pikachu
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>>24587531
That's someone different. I don't know about Hirano being in heat and shit, I think it was more that she just felt like screwing in the band. I recall that happening in a good portion of rock bands.
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>>24587581
>Dedenne evolves into Raichu as an alternative to Pikachu, resulting in the series' first pokémon to have two significantly different pre-evolutions
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>>24587531
>Holy fuck, she's really in heat. Now everytime i read a doujin i'll believe it's true in japan.

That's nothing. try showing a nice gesture to a cake and you can practically feel the heat from her.
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>>24587560
There are a lot of things a passive girl can do, she should be the one that has Puni. Besides that there are a lot of opportunities for Serena to do cute stuff with Pokemon but it's all wasted on Bonnie. Bonnie shouldn't even have the right to hold any Pokemon, she isn't even a trainer.
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>>24587574
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>>24587592
>Raichu eventually gets retconned as just Dedenne's evolution
>Pikachu immediately gets a mega
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>>24587604
Bonnie is as much a female lead this saga as Serena is. Bonnie is amazing anyway so I don't see the complaints. Serena gets her screentime but she's always been very passive in filler episodes or eps that don't focus on her.
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>>24587604
Serena has her Tripokalon schtick, giving Puni to her will severely imbalance the importance/screentime of the characters.

Hell, even now Clemont will be feeling the sting of this as he now has nothing to do other than lust after Ash and being Bonnie's brother.
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>>24587609
>Mega Pikachu
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>>24587604
Serena's serving as Ash's anchor.
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>>24587612
Bonnie is too young to be a waifu character, so the main girl should be focused on.
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>>24587624
Age is only a number.
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>>24587608
>Jessie with whip

Woah. just woah
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>>24587623
Did somebody say "anchor"?
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Serena = Useless
Bonnie = Useless

There.
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>>24587636
I respect your opinion, m8. But it's objectively shit and you should kill yourself because of it.
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>>24587604
Stay salty, Bonnie is the best.

Reminded me a bit when I once lurked serebii and read comments about Ash eating up Serena's screentime.
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>>24587573
So that's really all you have to say then? This is why you get called out as an emofag a lot of the times.
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>>24587628
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>>24587631
What is this, a cruise liner for ants?
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Tierno clearly to stick it into Shauna
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>>24587682
I approve
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>>24587682
I approve too
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>>24587682
Ingles por favor.
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>>24587676
No, she's an ocean liner.

If you can get me a higher-quality screen cap of the ship from the flashback from the episode where Ash and Serena high-fived, be my guest, but until then that's the best-quality image I have of the Cussler.
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>>24587682
Prof. Oak please
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>>24587716
>implying
You just gave up and decided to throw the buckets into the water, didn't you?
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>Cynthia returns
>she's looking all gloomy throughout the episode
>Ash ask her why
>she keep it silent
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>>24587728
So, what kind of boat is Ash and Serena?
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>>24587748
NICE BOAT

>captcha is boat too
Well then
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>>24587748
We went over this before: a Yamato-class battleship compared to Pokéshipping's Bismarck.

Pokéshipping, like Bismarck, was the strongest ship of its time, but it sank years and years ago, and has now been surpassed in every conceivable class by a ship that (canonically speaking) existed at the time but was considerably lesser-known and existed on the other side of the globe.
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>>24587747
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>>24587728
Ash and Serena one-upping high touch and the Cussler weren't in the same episode.
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>>24587742
What are you talking about? Do you really think Serena getting worried about Ash is something special when Dawn had episodes about it before? Like where she tried to run in a save Ash from raging Chimchar but Brock stopped her. All those times she called his name out. Even Iris screamedAsh's name in worry during episode N and it go special focus


How about all this "progress" Amour has apparently made? By your understanding, Serena admitted to wanting Ash in XY80. Okay, if we go with that then XY90 pretty much nullifies that because she's doing nothing to try and win Ash. So, you're back to square one.
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>>24587748
Both are the Titanic, Serena will also be Jack..
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>>24587780
Wow, you really did give up and decided to throw it all and see what stuck, didn't you?
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>>24587765
I don't know my ships too well, but what are the Yamamto's? Aren't they not made anymore?
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>>24587787
>Yashio was Serena from the future all along

N O L A N
O
L
A
N
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>>24587765
Isn't Pokeshipping mostly because 4Kids added a bunch of hints that weren't even in the original? Granted it was still the strongest ship of its time but partly because of dub edits? I am not really much of a shipper since Ash having a notable relation with the female of that region is expected. Its just more visible now in XY since Serena has feelings for Ash, whereas Misty, May, Dawn and Iris didn't crush on Ash.

With Misty it was mostly dub edits to hint at their relationship more, with May she was more likely to have a crush on Drew than Ash, with Dawn I'd argue she same but with Zoey, and as for Iris, from what I remember she was more independent (not having a crush on anyone).

Are there Amour hints? Yes. Is it progressing each time? No. Odds are the Ash/Serena thing won't go anywhere just like past relations so I won't raise my expectations to an unrealistic level.
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>>24587801
Desperation is a nasty lady, especially with bad baiters.

They should go to other waters.
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>>24587780
What are you talking about? Serena being worried about Ash has been a constant thing that's gotten more focus than Dawn and Iris. That's just one part of it but it's not the only thing that makes it special.

As for XY80 and XY90, just because she admits it once doesn't mean she has to constantly admit it even though she didn't hide it from Shauna and tried to shift the conversation to avoid being put on the spot, so how the fuck is that even cancelling out?
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>>24587817
>with Dawn I'd argue she same but with Zoey
And there goes your credibility.
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>>24587804
Of course you'd agree with bait. You work in the bait shop after all.
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>>24587766
It's because of the death of Caitlin's seiyuu.
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>>24587776
Woops, my bad, I forgot that they used the rods in a different episode than they got them.

Much obliged on the high-resolution screenshot!

I like the name Cussler for a ship that is very clearly the Titanic with only minor modifications, because as far as I can think, the name appears to be a reference to "Raise the Titanic!", via the author's last name, which makes it by far the most obscure reference to that ship I have ever encountered.
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>>24587845
TOO SOON
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>>24587849
No they used the fishing rods in the Cussler episode, but the high five with fishing rods was the previous episode with the Golden Magikarp.
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>>24587845
Don't remind her...
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>>24587765
I don't think that is a fair comparison.
Bismarck was the one who delievered doom to Hood. That's a great feat. It's impossible to emphasize how important it was for the allies to get revenge and their goal was to literally sink Bismarck regardless of the cost.

The Yamato-ships were more heavily armed, but they never achieved much and all sank before the war was over.

Bismarck loved and lost, while Yamat ships never loved at all.
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>>24587845
too soon anon
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>>24587802
The Yamato class had been the largest battleships ever made. Over 150 anti-aircraft guns, nine 18-inch guns (compared to the Iowa class's nine 16-inch guns), as much as over 2 feet of armor in some places, and some 70,000 tons in weight.

The ships had unfortunate ends in World War II (in the form of taking over a dozen torpedo hits and several bomb hits from turbospammed American planes when most ships would go down with a fourth or a fifth of what these ships took), but if anything that just makes the comparison stronger since the only thing that could bring Amour down at this point would be some incredibly major, powerful, or calamitous plot event. That is to say, they wouldn't be able to sink the ship subtly.

Similarly, when Yamato sank, all three of her ammunition stores detonated, which resulted in pic related. I imagine the fan reaction from amour being sunk would be quite similar.
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>>24587817
Another reason calling that ship Bismarck is fitting: Yamato and amour were both built in Japan, while Bismarck and Pokéshipping were built up outside of Japan.
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>>24587861
Oh yeah, I remember now, they got the episode in the same episode as the high-five, but they simply used them in the opening to the Cussler episode.

Damn, it's been too long since I saw those episodes, apparently. I managed to forget the details of the episode that had my waifu in it!
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>>24587829
>so how the fuck is that even cancelling out?

Because she's just as afraid to admit it as she was way back in XY007? People will argue "Oh, she touched his shoulders in XY70, or she indirectly admitted it in XY80", but what does it matter when everytime it could be perceived as such she tries to change the subject (XY40, XY90) or tries to hide it?
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>>24587765
>>24587849
>>24587865
>>24587882
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>>24587925
You are correct, sir
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>>24587817
Its also because Misty was the only girl for 5 years and back then nobody could have predicted Misty would be removed from the series. The reason Pokeshippers got so angry when Misty left is because they saw her as the #2 most important character after Ash.
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>>24587929
>sir
fuck off to reddit
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>>24587925
>yfw someone puts that transparent background Pikachu and Dedenne into this image alongside or on top of Pikachu and Dedenne
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>that Origins thread
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>>24587905
Except that's fucking wrong. XY7 she indirectly tried. She's a bit more open about it but she's trying to avoid being put on the spot. Just because she isn't telling everyone she likes Ash doesn't mean it's cancelling anything out.
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>Welcome to the Mewtario Ship Fetish Discussion Thread
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>>24587882
>oy Mewtario, how's you Siemakaze?
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>>24587968
>two people talk about the Cussler and the fishing episodes
>everything else is whatever that is
It feels weird.
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>>24587984
I wound up chasing absolutely every line in the game. I'm working up the credits for a Lexington because I ended up discovering the beauty of American aircraft carrier design and want a Midway because of how similar she is to modern carriers, and every other line is Tier VI or VII except for my Tier V Russian destroyer and my free-experienced Admiral Hipper.
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>>24587967
>XY7 she indirectly tried

Giving cookies to a guy is not indirectly admitting she wants him. Especially when she gave everyone else cookies too.

>She's a bit more open about it

If she's not making a move on Ash or seen trying to tell him she likes him…she's not being more open about it.
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The best part about baiters using "Amour has no progression" as an argument against it is that even if that were true it wouldn't mean jackshit in regards to its chances of becoming canon. Just look at NaruHina or a bunch of other shonen/kids stuff. Time skip, bam, married, easy
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>>24588007
You're just throwing the bait shop into the water, aren't you? Is this how bad it's gotten for you? This is actually kind of depressing.
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>>24588007
Except that you're wrong on both accounts.
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>>24588009
Naruto/Hinata actually did have some progression though, just not in the way that was expected. That's really more of the reason why Ash/Serena is really closer to Naruto/Hinata, it's progressing, just not in the expected way.
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Ash is going to at least get runner up in the league right?
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>>24588056
Ash/Serena is probably better developed than Naruto/Hinata.
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>>24588009
>>24588056
I should probably word this better. Ash/Serena is progressing but they're using cues from Naruto/Hinata.
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>>24588059

What a fucking disappointment for Ash to get to the championship game just to lose. Ash's rotation of Pokemon in Sinnoh was a good enough troupe to have won the league if not for Tobias. Heck he was the only trainer to knock out one of his Pokemon, let alone two.
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>>24588009
Naruto is like the prime example of how to not write romance though.
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>episode where the group is stuck in a city with little to do that day
>Ash sleeps in after everybody else has woken up
>Clemont and Bonnie go off to do something maybe procreate or some shit I dunno and tell Serena to wake Ash up by the time they get back
>Serena gets a crazy (but too fun not to try) idea to startle him out of bed
>she crawls into bed next to him and gently tells him, "Ash, it's time to wake up."
>Serena's face when, getting startled by how close her face is to his, Ash instead wraps an arm around her without even waking up and says "Just a few more minutes, dear." in his sleep
>Serena starts mentally making up excuses about how this might not be what she immediately thinks it is, but decides to play along, saying "But we have so much to do today!"
>Ash: "But Serena, we haven't had anything to do since I became a Pokemon Master! We haven't even moved into our new house yet!"

>the implications and ramifications of that sentence make Serena lose her composure

how qt would it be?
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>>24588083
kek I know but I don't care as long as it's canon
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>>24588086
*>Serena's face when, instead of getting startled

fuck, nothing worse than messing up a greentext
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>>24588086
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>>24588086
Your fanfiction isn't coming true, anon. Ash x Serena is not gonna happen.
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>>24588086

>Even thinking a situation like this would ever occur

My, autism is a marvelous thing.
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People fail to realize Ash/Serena was created by the writers themselves when they didn't have to do this. Why would they make Serena have such a huge crush on Ash with a backstory?

Serena could have just been the next May/Dawn and just had a good friendship with Ash, but they went the extra mile. If/when Serena leaves and nothing happens, nobody will ever believe a shipping plot with Ash would happen again. This is the first and only chance they can do this.
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>>24588097
>Ash x Serena is not gonna happen.
>implying
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>>24588101
Unless you think that, miraculously, XYZ is going to be the last season, it's not going to happen. Typically, couples are formed when a show is ending.

And we know Ash's adventure will go on until the games start dying (aka in 50 years).
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What would be a good second date for Ash and Serena?
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>>24588109
>couples are formed when a show is ending.

Clemont and Serena. There's still plenty of time to set it up.
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>>24588111
A real one
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>>24588101
No, it's nothing but a ratings draw. Ash and Serena isn't going to amount to anything? May and Drew never confessed to each other or kissed. In fact when May came back she barely mentioned Drew and when she did he was mentioned along with Harely…and nothing was mentioned about her crush on Drew at all. Considering the fact that May/Drew was built up only for nothing to happen should show they that they won't do jack with Ash/Serena.
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>>24588113
Except they're setting up Ash and Serena.
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I really love the idea of Ash getting an endgame, and I'd be fine with getting a new MC, but there's one huge flaw that makes me think it'll never happen.

They would never in a million years replace Pikachu as the protagonist's Pokemon. Ever.

How could a new protagonist ever work in Pokemon?
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>>24588123
>May and Drew being the same as Ash and Serena
You're just letting it all fly out aren't you?
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>>24588127
They've actually shown Pikachu with other trainers recently. The girl from Johto in Cilan and Brock's special and in the Diancie movie.
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>>24588099
it sure brings happiness in this dull world
>>24588086
it would be over the top
cut off last three > and we're here
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>>24588127
They could just have a new protagonist with Pikachu as his main Pokemon.

Look at Adventures. Red's first mon was Poliwhirl, then he got Bulbasaur as his "starter". Yet, by far, the mon he uses the most and talks with the most is Pikachu, because he's the maskot of the series.

Not that I think Ash will ever get replaced, but if he does, there's no reason a new MC can't have Pikachu as his main. Hell, the show could even pull a timeskip out of its ass and have Ash's kid travel with Ash's original Pikachu/that Pikachu's kid.
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>>24588143
>They could just have a new protagonist with Pikachu as his main Pokemon.

kinda redundant replacing him
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>>24588132
What has you so convinced that Ash and Serena are going to get together? It really doesn't matter if one is more pushed than the other.

Pokeshipping got an entire movie dedicated to it to some extent, and yet it was almost entirely dropped in the very next series, rarely being touched on again outside of maybe 1-2 episodes.
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>>24588143

Or Ash as a Battle Frontier Brain trains Bonnie for her to set off on her own journey, and Pikachu wants to go with her?
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>>24588151
>entire movie
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>>24588151
Pokeshipping was rarely even touched in previous seasons. You just gave up and started flinging anything and everything to see what sticks, didn't you?
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>>24588149
Not really, at least Ash gets closure and we can have a new dumb kid who justifiably doesn't know what the fuck a Pidgey will do if you throw your jacket on it.

I just want Ash to get a happy ending. It'd be like finding out that your old fuckup pal from elementary school got his life together and ended up happily married with a nice job.
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>>24588151
>entire movie

Huh? You mean 2000?
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>>24588101
>people not realizing its a Scott post.
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>>24588152
nah, separating bros won't work
we need an egg
very special egg
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>>24588151
Pokeshipping was also disliked by the head writer at the time and back then they had no clue they would be replacing Misty in general.

Amour was created long after the cycle of girls had been established and its written by the head writing staff.
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>>24588167
>implying one of the people that responded to it wasn't one of the stalebaiters
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>>24588162
2000 had quite a few Misty moments, although only from her side.
I'd say there was more Pokeshipping in 2000 than Amour in any of the two latest movies.
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I'm getting into the XY anime and am up to 88 with every episode up to 93 downloaded, any other essential episodes/things im missing? i'm downloading the first XY movie right now so its just the mega evolution special and the other movie right?
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>>24588172
>Amour was created long after the cycle of girls had been established and its written by the head writing staff.

But it doesn't really matter. The Pokemon anime has shown they aren't committed to closing the loop of having teased pairings get together among the MC's. Just because Ash/Serena has promotion and more hints than usual within the series does't mean they'll follow though. It'll likely just end on some generic promise to see each other again.

And why would they choose Serena of all the girls anyway?
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>>24588151
>Pokeshipping got an entire movie dedicated to it to some extent
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>>24588211
And Amour hasn't gotten any kind of movie to it at all.
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>>24588201
They chose Serena because it was the gen they decided to start this romance with? Its also possible they did this now because its after BW and the anime is headed toward its 20th anniversary.
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>>24588190
Yes.
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>>24588201
The only record of that is May/Drew and it sure as hell wasn't treated the same as Ash/Serena.
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I just thought of something guys.

What if they gave greninja a new form, which as far as we know isn't a mega evolution, just so that Ash can still get a mega evolution.

for example, Megazard Y
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>>24588222
Every movie is an Amour movie.
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>>24588245
Don't reply to him, is pointless
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>>24588243
>mfw
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>>24588258
I still wonder where Ash learned such an archaic way to hold her hand.

It's not like there wasn't any other way to do it: in the Mirror episode they hold onto each other's forearms, so it's very deliberate.
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>>24588243
>Ash gets both a Super Greninja and a Mega Charizard Y

Who could stop him without using Legendaries?
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>>24588267
>Who could stop him without using Legendaries?
>implying legendaries could
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>>24588316
As it should be.
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>>24588316
I knew Bayleaf is hot, but not THAT hot to dump Serena for her.
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>>24588316
>>24588319
>>24588320
Nah.
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>>24588236
Again, it doesn't matter if it's "not treated the same" there are certain things they writers have shown they are no committed to, and that's allowing Ash to win the league and getting characters in the main cast together with their respective crushes. The hints between Ash/Serena aren't all that different from the ones May/Drew got, they are just more numerous because they are two main characters.
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>>24588345
Are you trying to throw the bait so badly that you're purposely contradicting your own posts?
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>>24588358
>May/Drew
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Roses)
>Girl spills spaghetti

>Ash/Serena
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Ribbon)
>Girl spills spaghetti
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>>24588380
Way to ignore everything else that makes Ash/Serena different just to bait champ.
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thread is lying in pile of it's own feces right now
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Fuuuuuck I just realized something

You know how Ash will just sporadically compliment Serena, and do stuff like holding her hand to help her across those logs? There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he does them, but they're definitely there. But when the situation is romantic, he often doesn't even notice.

He thinks they're dating already, ever since he asked her to come along with him. But he's also a dense shonen who doesn't understand romance. The entire journey has been the date. Occasionally he'll have a hasubando brainwave and act accordingly.
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>>24588402
Thanks you too .
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>>24588406
>There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to when he does them
Yes there is. He's being a caring husbando.
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>>24588396
The basics are all there. What's different other than the fact that they are on the main cast? Nothing, especially given most of the hints are similar.
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>>24588420
>>24588396
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>>24588424
>still not providing evidence of what's different

I accept your concession
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>>24588461
>still trying to bait when the evidence is in XY

I accept your concession
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Fucking stop with the emoji already.
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>evidence in XY

>May/Drew
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Roses)
>Girl spills spaghetti

>Ash/Serena
>Inspire each other
>Save one or the other
>Get teased about relationship
>Boy gives girl a gift(Ribbon)
>Girl spills spaghetti
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>>24588519
>>24588396
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Holy shit is everything being deleted now are the mods actually alive

BASED
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Hey Adamant, if you're here can we still expect subs at some point today?
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She'll be there to pick Ash back up when he loses confidence right?
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>>24588558
So this was the moment the salt became real for her then?
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No. She is useless to Ash's development. She is a leech.
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Anyone see that picture of confirmed Pokemon in upcoming episodes? Darkrai was in ep 6 or 7 I think. Was it a real image or some fake shit?
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>ywn bully the Barza
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>>24588567
>asking when the answer is obviously yes
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>>24588577
It's real anon. But maybe it'll be in a flashback or something.
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Anyone else here who hates Serena?

I hate her mostly because she's useless
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>>24588577
What picture?
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I want to be an drawer for the show. Is this bad?
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>>24588597
all pokegirls in the ashnime are useless
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so how long can we expect XYZ to go for

about like half a year or something?
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>>24588610
But that's impossible. You're 3D and alive. You can't suddenly become 2D and an inanimate object.
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>>24587454
I remember reading on ANN about this. Forgot who the chick was but she was a pop idol or some shit. They never said she fucked, but its kinda implied.
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>>24588612
>ashnime
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>>24588606
Serena is a huge leech. Comparing the one time she helped Ash to saving her from the neet life is nothing.
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At the rate they're imitating Naruto;

>The XY family is relaxing under one of those scenic trees on a hilltop
>Chespin is being a faggot as usual
>Ash tugs his hat down and starts taking a snooze after some hard training
>Serena is sitting next to him, leaning against the tree
>She leans over to see if he's actually asleep underneath his hat
>Chespin's bullshit shenanigans make him crash into Serena, knocking her forward
>She accidentally kisses Ash
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>>24588576
>>24588632
Except that's wrong shitpost-kun.
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Eevee not being such a pussy when?
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>>24588640
>>24588632
>replying to yourself

this isn't funny anymore
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>>24588637
>doing homo scene with hetero
Just go with something better.
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>>24588641
That's the moment it will lose all personality.
See; every other pokémon with previous self-esteem issues.
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>>24588621
i want to believe
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>>24588612
The Pokemon girls are both great fap material and great story material.
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>>24588650
But how? You're not Steven who can go 2D in an already 2D environment and become 1D.
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>>24588658
Becoming an animator isn't that hard
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Will Steven Stone be appearing in XYZ at all
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>>24588632
Never thought I'd see the day where the female lead only serves as eye candy for the male viewers and shipping bait for shippers. I mean, you can tell her "goal" is just an afterthought the writers came up with. Serena doesn't even need Pokemon for her role in this show.

This development as a whole is really saddening.
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Man, these baiters are really getting desperate. Sad really.
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This general tends to be goddamn mmm

>>24588668
He already did in Mega especial IV having no reason to be in to begin with, so yeah

>>24588675
Are you nymphia or scott?
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>>24588649
Nothing that valuable to lose, honestly.
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>>24588679
Im not Nympia nor am I Scott. There are more people than those two who think Serena is a flawed character you know.
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Who the fuck is this?
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>>24588690
Then fuck off, sincerely your friend SB.

Can we return to the goddammit anime discussion now? Will Ash ever get a mega? can we return to explain why he's strategies are inefficient?
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Did we get new jannies/mods? Shit seems to be getting deleted quicker than normal.
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>>24588703
>Will Ash ever get a mega?
Nope. At least not in this series, it looks like.
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>>24588675
Serena's "goal" is still a bigger goal than Clemont's at this point. He's going down the Brock route at an alarming speed.
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>>24588703
>Will Ash ever get a mega?
There's still hope for it. We have a while before the Flare arc ends and I don't think they'll end XY without introducing Mega Charizard Y.
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>>24588701
Serenas wife.
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>>24588716
>There were people who called my delusional, stupid and stinky baiter for telling Ash wouldn't get a mega

That proves your dear Stale B, can be right some times. I'm actually expecting Trevor to get the Mega charizard Y and Tierno his mega blastoise.

>>24588722
5 bucks, Trevor gets it.
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>>24588725
Shauna wife
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>>24588726
>Tierno
>Mega Blastoise
>Trevor
>Megazard Y
Nope. Next your gonna say that were gonna see Trevor pop up and fight Alain in the expected megazard vs megazard battle.
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>>24588277
>implying legendaries wouldn't rather team up as well
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>>24588726
fuck off already
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>>24588726
English chum dispenser.

Good work leaving Shauna out of your thought process and pretty much having Ash get it otherwise disrupting the Kanto trio.
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>>24588745
>>24588751
>>24588752
>this damage control

Months ago I said Ash wouldn't get a mega by now and facts proves you wrong.
Really, I know you're really hyped and all but if you quit for a moment all the fanboyism you can see how the things will develop, because they're CLICHE AS FUCK
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>>24588726
>Rival trio
>getting shit

Has retardness gone too far? 67% of anons get this wrong!
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>>24588763
Again, good job leaving Shauna out of it and disrupting the so called Kanto mega trio.

You can start your damage control.
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>>24588701
The Nene
>>
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>>24588774
That's just Nene. The Nene is the one who took the gym authority from Clemont.
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>>24588773
>Kanto mega trio.

That implies such thing existed to begin with, anyway you will kiss my ass when Tierno gets his mega evolution.
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>>24588777
Why does Bonnie look so happy when she's with onii-chan?
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>>24588784
>That implies such thing existed to begin with
That's kind of the basis that people even suggest they'd get Megas. They don't even know about Megas in the first place.
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>>24588787
Because she's in love
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>>24588675
Guess Dawn spoiled us to have good female leads that were relevant to Ash's development
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>>24588790
Time will give me the reason, it already did and it will again. And when it does, you'll suffer because ST was right again.
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>>24588787
because she is good sister with proper relationship with her sibling
it's so rare in current world
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>>24588784
Oh dear lord, you can taste the salt coming out of this post.
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>>24588796
Good thing Serena's been relevant to Ash's development then.
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>>24588798
>you will suffer
>time will give me the reason

back to le reddit with you
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>>24588774
why does she look like she'd suck someone dry and lap all of it up
>>
Screenshot this post:
>Alain and Ash battle with Mega X and Ash-Greninja
>After the arc ends, Alain gives Ash his Key Stone and Mega Ston
>Mega Zard X vs Y happens at the League.
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>>24588798
Except it never did give you reason.
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Only reason I was hyped about XY was due to the prospect of Ash getting a mega. And now the writers pull some Greninja form out of their ass instead.

This is some BW-tier bullshit writing.
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>>24588811
What else do you expect from the shitty ashnime with its so-called "based director" and shit writers that ruined Serena's hair?
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>>24588809
>Ash gets X as a proof that he can dominate the darkness that comes with power
>Alan gets Y as a proof that he has accepted the light again in his life
>that will be the last time they battle as friends
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There's a higher chance of Alan getting Zard Y to symbolize his redemption than fucking Trevor.
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where the fuck did the jannies go they were so active earlier now they just left
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>>24588811
XY is great. Aside from Serena's slow start and Ash not having a rival at the start, both of which have been fixed now.

Its disappointing Serena doesn't battle but other than that I like her character.
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ADAMANT save us with fresh subs.
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>>24588837
>Alan goes back to lab coat and orange hoodie

Yes please
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>>24588842
XY is shit. No mega for Ash. No (good) rivals for Ash. Serena is useless.
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Rate. Don't hate.

I did this at work.
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>>24587123
is there a hoopa movie english sub yet?
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As long as idol rape doujins of serena start popping up at the end of xy it will be a good season. That's the only thing worthwhile Serena will produce this season.
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>>24588811
>Only reason I was hyped about XY was due to the prospect of Ash getting a mega.

You have to be an idiot to enter with such narrow-minded expectations, you deserve the disappointment you get.
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>>24588861
May down to B. Why?
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>>24588855
The signs were there all along. He was already wearing Y's color.
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>>24588861
>knocking down May and Hilda several tiers down
Into the trash it goes.
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>>24588873
>While working with Sycamore, he wore ZardY clothes
>Now that he's working with Lysandre, he wears ZardX clothes

What did they mean by this?
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>>24588859
But it's not.
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>>24588882
May just be coincidence. Then again, Greninja will be sporting Ash's look, so...
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>>24588882
He started wearing it before working under Lysandre. He and Lysandre don't even know Zard Y exists.
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>>24588873
He used to be cute and innocent, too bad he's in the shadow realm now.
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>>24588873
So wait, Alan leaves Team Flare and then helps defeat them with Mega Zard Y?
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>>24588861
Those that the higher tiers can't drop that much, Dawn, May and long hair Serena are untouchable.
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>>24588859
Then stop watching it
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>>24588893
No, you're full of shit. May got dropped down to B by that guy anyway.
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>>24588888
>He and Lysandre don't even know Zard Y exists.
Weird that no one even mentions a possibility of a Y. They just call X as Mega Charizard. Probably hasn't been discovered yet.
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>>24588875

>May
Sorry just not that into her and never really was. She's fine though.

>Hilda
>Ugly helmet that ruin her hair overall
>Spats
>Lucario furbait
Really? You take issue of me lowering her? She's barely a redesign of an in-game fighting battle-girl.
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>>24588893
go jack off to longhair Serena you twat
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>>24588837
Now that you bring it up, it makes sense.

Once Alan defects, there's no reason to believe he'll keep the mega stone or the lizardonite he was lent. So, he'll have to find his own, leading to Mega Lizardon Y.
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>>24588899
People draw every kind of autism these days
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>>24588907
>Hilda is Korrina
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>>24588893
May has short hair
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>>24588913

that's what I said! BOOBY TWRAP!
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>>24588909
He could keep it out of spite, using the tools that Team Flare gave him against them.
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>>24588909
I am going to laugh so hard if he gives Charizardite X to Ash or even Trevor.
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>>24588910
Just like people say all kinds of shit against XY, eh?

It's a balanced system.
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>>24588909
>he keeps them both
>he switches form for each battle depending on what works better for the current fight
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>>24588907
>>24588913

yeah sorry I meant Korrina
Hilda is the 'literally who' of gen 5
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>>24588907
May is qt.
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>>24588855
Why not a labcoat with a black and orange hoodie?
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I fucking HATE Serena. Useless piece of shit character.
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>>24588931
>Implying Fleur-de-Lis doesn't have an insurance policy against his best champion.

It'd be quite silly if he didn't have one, like Hari-san's radiation treatment.
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>>24588965
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What if Alan-Charizard
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>>24588944
I was referring to the fact that someone actually made a drawing of Serena menacingly pointing a gun for whatever reason.

Literally... why?
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>>24588965
yes you've made that clear

are you having a spergout
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>>24588978
Because, lol.

Drawfags need to get their output somehow.
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>>24588977
His hair is already Charizard-X styled but that'll be one way of him getting power of his own rather than using the one Lysandre gave him. I think the easiest option is to just make him find one of his own. The stone he found in the specials looked like Gyaradosite but maybe they can just go with that.
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>>24588965
Yes, yes, you've been spamming this all day kisaramoon.
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>>24588978
>stay away from mah Ash or ye gonna be in big trouble, lass
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>>24588977
If it's Alan-Charizard versus Ash-Greninja, then why not just give them both megas? Plus that takes away from the whole point of giving Ash an Ash-Greninja to begin with: "ai" or love.
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>>24588990
Well, I gues I'm in no position to judge anyone. After all, I once asked a drawfag for a drawing of Ash posing as CIA in front of a plane.
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Serena needs to go. She fucking sucks.
>>
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>>24589016
We know kisaramoon, you hate Serena because she's not Misty even though she's better than Misty.
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>>24589019
Serena doesnt even belong in this anime series. She doesnt even use her Pokemon. She can fuck off.
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>>24589005
Not him but if Alan's searching for the strongest mega evolution, wouldn't "mega evolving" without a stone because of love work as the answer to his quest? "The strongest mega evolution is born not because of a stone but because of love." That type of sappy answer.

Higher chance for him to just get Y stone somewhere than getting a special snowflake form though. It just seems weird that he'll choose to stay with the X that Lysandre gave him after all that's happened.
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>>24589016
>>24589025
therapy is required immediately
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>>24589019
http://kisarasmoon.deviantart.com/art/Misty-Cosplay-in-progress-567714616
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>>24589026
What if Alan finds ᵘᶫᵗᶦᵐᵃᵗᵉ ᵖᵒʷᵉʳ
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>>24589017
Serena looks so qt here
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>>24589039
I don't want to open it. I don't even want to imagine how bad it'll be. Why would you even link it?
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Has Ash even developed in XY or is it just our imagination?
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>>24589016
Only if she keeps short hair, if she has long hair again she can stay. But the next girl could be a new Iris so that's also risky.
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>>24589051
>Will I post bait to start shitposting?
ftfy
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>>24589051
Amour certainly hasn't
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>>24589025
kisaramoon please don't lie.
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Is there an episode with just utterly shit animation quality?
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>>24589063
>>24588396
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>>24589054
You don't like Iris? but she has the hair very longer
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>>24589054
>longhairfag never not being mad after the poll
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JANNY COME BACK
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>>24589072
But she is black so it's impossible and not allowed to like her.
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>>24589066
Pampered Tyrunt was probably the worst animated episode in XY so far.
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>>24589094
wow just wow
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>>24589066
Honestly, all episodes that are not animated by Iwane or Natsume are pretty shit quality.

Exception for XYZ 1 and Clemont's gym.
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>>24589094
go back to >>>/pol/
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This is what crazy looks like.
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>>24589200
Ash looks like shit
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>>24589199
Hahha, holy shit!

And I thought Kiarasmoon was bat-shit nuts before. This takes the cake! Pokeshippers are so fucked up!
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>>24589199
I think you're just as insane for purposely looking for this shit.
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>>24587596
I wish I understood the Japanese aversion to Christmas cakes.

Why don't we send our boyz to acquire those who remain? It has to be better than having them buy a crotch rocket on 25% APR and marrying a dependapotamus only for her to take everything in the divorce after she fucked fifty other dudes?

Japan is already the dream posting for most of da boyz, why would you want to bring a literal hippo with you when there is so much beautiful cake around?

>>24587765
Except that's stupid because the Bismarck class was not only older than Bismarck, but it was more a battlecruiser than an actual battleship. Yamato was far from lesser well known, being the biggest and heaviest battleships to ever goddamn exist. Get it right.

Also, you don't want to make that comparison because Bismarck most likely scuttled itself, whereas Yamato, for all her firepower, died an agonizing death by aerial bombardment and never even got to hit the fleet.

>>24588953
Troo
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SUBS ARE OUT!
>>
ADAMANNNNTTTT
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http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Special_-_The_Strongest_Mega_Evolution_Act_IV[H264_720P][D6992831].mkv.torrent

IT'S TIME!
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>>24589308
Oh shit you're not lying, mega IV is between I and II
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>>24589308
>>24589321
What do you guys just sit on the site and just refresh the page over and over again
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>>24589337
>what is RSS
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>>24589328
The 5 newest subs are always listed on the top of the page anyway.
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>>24589199
>Tomioka and Omode made it so that the romantic meaning behind the date episode and Serena's new appearance having Ash's ribbon front and center the next episode will forever be in everyone's mind
>fanart like this is still indirectly doing Amour fanart
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>>24589357
What do you expect from salty Pokeshippers who don't watch the show and make their own headcanon?
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>>24589357
Amourshippers aren't going to become the next Pokeshippers r-right?
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>>24589369
Hello stalebait-kun.
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By the way did that one anon ever get a reply back from Playerking about the "Pikachu movie episodes being counted as a special" thing
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>>24589379
Yeah, some bullshit "I don't run bulbapedo so it's not up to me how it's counted here" excuse.
The archives don't have pictures, so I can't find it for you.
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>>24589369
Most current Amourshippers were previously Advance or Pearlshippers. They've already shipped Ash with a previous girl to see it not happen
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So /padt/ will Alain live up to his word?
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>>24589415
>Manon = Damsel in distress
>Serena = Based enough on her own


In addition to having a much better body, AND being cuter, Serena's not a damsel that needs her smile saved. Why is Manon so shit?
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>>24589415
>Sushi actually decided to go with a "protecting her smile"-like translation
Not sure how to feel about this. Does she lurk this thread?
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>>24589415
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>>24589443
It's literally what he says, anon.
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What about XYZ01?
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>>24589461
Tomorrow
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>>24589442
Serena's smile doesn't need to be saved because Ash is protecting it 24/7. Alain can't do that so he's forced to save it.
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>>24589443
He says "egao wo torimodosu", "bring back her smile" is a very straight translation.
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>>24589415
>he'll be doing nothing but stealing the smiles of little girls
Will he be cruel enough to attempt to steal Serena's as well by eliminating Ash?
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Can I have him vp
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>>24589498
No, he's not yours.
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>>24589199
>that much autism

Also the fact that Ash looks like a girl
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>>24589468
Rad. しっかりしてくれ
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>>24589468
Yay!
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>>24589498
>belly button
What's this feeling between my legs
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>>24588893

May lost her high tier placement by the time Battle Frontier started, when she lost all her personality and spent half the time undressing Drew with her eyes.
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>>24589534
Same thing Ash felt when Serena went Fokko?
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>>24589534
That's a penis
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>>24589560
For those flaws she didn't make it to SS rank, Dawn and Serena also have flaws that makes it impossible to be the absolute top rank.
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>>24589199
Why would you subject yourself to this?

>>24589369
I want to say no, but I'm not so sure these days.
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>>24589594
Thing is they can never be like the Pokeshippers just on the fact that Pokeshippers suffered from 4kids's lie.
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>>24589560
>>>/pol/
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>>24589560
>Dawn and Serena interacting
>Bonnie asking to keep Dawn

If only they had skipped her special cameo on BW
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>>24589618
Okay Fennel, stop being lewd and huffing the Munna gas for a second, and think about it. That makes Amourshippers in the future probably even worse than Pokeshippers, in that theirs wasn't a dub invention.

This place will be even more obnoxious next season, and next girl, and that's with assuming most people switch over if the new girl is cute and nice enough.
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Damn, I really hope XY&Z can live up to the standards that the Mega Evo specials have hyped it up for. I get a really good feeling from the anime that I never had before.
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>>24589653
This is bait, but...
>That makes Amourshippers in the future probably even worse than Pokeshippers, in that theirs wasn't a dub invention.

How does that make sense? The fact that it's not a dub invention means it's actually written as a subplot rather than being awkwardly inserted by people that have to hope the actual writers don't suddenly contradict the fuck out of their made-up lines.
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>Literally Redoing MaxXJirachi with BonniexZgyguard cell
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>>24589646

I would laugh so hard if Dawn made a cameo in XY instead of Iris, like the writers were going, "Yeah, we're well aware of who the worst girl was too."
>>
>Malva calls Siebold "Zumi-kun"

do they know each other?
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>>24589698
>implying Max's relationship with Jirachi will have as much gravitas as Bonnie has with Squishy
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>>24589709
They're both elite 4 members
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>>24589713
I never got the feeling E4 in the anime know each other, just like gym leaders.
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>>24589690
Bonnie isn't gonna suffer, r-right? ;_;
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>>24589696
No it's not bait, and what I meant is that Pokeshippers are already obnoxious enough, presuming things go on as usual, and that Serena goes off to do her own thing and Ash goes by himself to the next region, Amourshippers may end up being worse than Pokeshippers in the amount of toxic garbage they leave this place and others on the Internet with. Delusions she'll come back permanently. Constant mud slinging at who comes next along.

I've read this book before.
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>>24589705
If that were the case it would have been May for ORAS but that obviously didn't happen. I don't think they would have Dawn cameo in two gens in a row.
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>>24589722
Malva using -kun for people she doesn't know is fairly in-character though.
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>>24589722
I don't think we've ever seen more than one around at the same time
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>>24589729
ebin
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>>24589729
You forget the Pokemon anime itself was a huge fad when Misty was part of the show and at the peak of its popularity, that made her the most watched female of the series compared to now 15+ years later with XY.

Even most people who quit the anime after Kanto watched Misty, so that's where all the Pokeshipper delusion comes from./
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>>24589726
Doesn't she literally say we'll be together forever Puni-chan in her song?

It's a lie that has to end someday.
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>>24589722
DP established they regularly challenge each other to defend their positions.
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>>24589740
>Doesn't she literally say we'll be together forever Puni-chan in her song?

bitch never learns
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Does Serena find Ash physically attractive. or is it mostly is personality
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>>24589738
You are correct, which is why I said "may end up being worse". I would disagree with your prognosis though, that all Pokeshipper delusion comes simply from Misty being the first and it was at a time when it was super duper popular. Maybe it is for the vast amount of covert or overt genwunners that infest life with no rhyme or reason, but those are not so much Pokeshippers as people who simply know nothing else and don't care. When you join forums or come here, you take that next step into battle.

Actual real deal Pokeshippers, the ones who battle to the death, their reasons are more myriad, but it's generally along the lines of admiring Misty than Misty and Ash's dynamic, as it were..
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkPmrPstic

Amazing.
>>
>>24589722

>>24589709
Yes they do. But more importantly, how lewd will she be when she says Satoshi-kun?
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>>24589762
Most of these shippers are female, and they self-insert themselves into Misty's character. Since they were kids when Misty was part of the show, she became their role model and they though all girls should act like Misty.

Most of these females watched the show for Misty rather than Ash, the Pokemon, or anything else, so when Misty left the show they went nuts and couldn't handle it. Literally their entire reason to watch was Misty and, "Misty to declare her love for Ash."

The fact that they didn't even care that Ash, Brock and Team Rocket (all classic Kanto characters) continued into Hoenn says a lot, they stopped watching solely because of Misty.
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>>24589498
>10 years old
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>>24589709
Its more interesting what she calls Lysandre
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>>24589762

Pokeshippers are in a whole new level.

Someone post that room with shitty Pokeshipping fanart hanging from the walls.

That person still draws Pokshipping until today and is the only thing she has been drawing for over 10 years. What a waste.
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>>24589773
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>24589786
Its also funny the way they transfer their hate per each new girl. First they all disliked May for "replacing Misty" and then they realized they liked her, so then they all disliked Dawn in DP for being too "girly or bland", and then they transfer their hate to Serena for her crush on Ash.

If you search through deviantart you'll see a whole bunch of hate toward May/Dawn/Serena in old Pokeshipper artworks or pics depending on the year they were posted.
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>>24589786
nvm

found it

(I think there is more)
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>>24589769

>that picture

BTFO

It's amazing how much better her character is when Paul isn't around.

We all know her preference anyway.
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>>24589735
>Battle Chateau
>All of DP
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>>24589810

What the flying fuck.
>>
>my Pokémon XY and Mega Evolution subs folders are now both complete
Thanks for the hard work, PM.
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What's that song that's featured in the XY&Z preview? Is it the new intro?
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>>24589811
Nah, she just likes them young.
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>>24589653
>This place will be even more obnoxious next season, and next girl, and that's with assuming most people switch over if the new girl is cute and nice enough.
You're saying that as if this place would even exist by then.
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>>24589793
They realized they liked May because that's around when the devs backpedalled her out of her earlier self, and started to sort of ship with Drew. A pairing you like as well, Scott, which you should be ashamed of, because it's fucking disgusting.
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>>24589824
Yes.
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>>24589814
Elite 4 members, no
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>>24589829
She makes an exception for Ash
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>>24589837
That started pretty early though.
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>>24589837
Contestshipping isn't too bad. Drew mellowed out a lot as AG progressed.

Its just aimed at female fans.
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>>24589877
>Its just aimed at female fans.

not me
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>>24589883

Is that you, Purim?
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>>24589842
when will it be in the pastebin
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>>24589892
no
>>
ded thread
>>
threadly reminder that malva let alan win
>>
PSYCHO CUTUUHH
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>>24589909
>You could literally hear Houndoom freaking out as it struggles to get out of the Blast Burn in time
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>>24589877
Ash/Serena isn't any different than May/Drew
>>
/r/ing crying Manon
>>
>>24589853
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>>24589948
>RIP Miyu

oh shit that was Caitlin's seiyuu

she died?
>>
>>24589951
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>>24589924
he was faking it
he just happens to be a good actor so it seemed real
>>
>Malva's Houndoom had an ability that made it immune to Megazard's two strongest attacks
>mega evolving replaces that ability with useless bullshit and it gets rekt by Blast Burn
Poor guy.
>>
Quick, /padt/, take this song, and changing the lyrics as appropriate, but not the style, who should this be a character song for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gg9AM0VMFc

I'd say it's a Valerie song. They could confirm she really is an alien, even.

RIP Miyu ;_;

>>24589877
>>24589883
Absolutely disgusting.

It's not about mellowing out, he's still as abominable as ever.

>>24589959
I fucked up, sorry.

And yes, Miyu passed. No more Caitlyn.

It was absolutely heartbreaking reading her last blog posts.
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Holy fuck, why is she so fucking lewd? And why does she want to take away Alan's purity?
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>>24589966
What movies has Malva's Houndoom acted in?
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>>24589987
Balto
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It sucks that Alain can beat an E4 member but Ash can't. It's bullshit actually.
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>>24589989
She's got to be as lewd as Valerie.
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>>24589999
"Oh my, you know me? That makes me happy."

Too bad the seductive lip licking was saved for one of the underling Flare girls.
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>>24589705
>I would laugh so hard if Dawn made a cameo in XY instead of Iris

The idea of Iris making a cameo sounds unfeasible to me. They had the Wallace Cup for May; they "had" the Junior Cup for Dawn, though why would a Contest Girl take part in a fighting 1x1 tournament, except to train for Contest Battles, is beyond me; but what's for Iris in Kalos?

>I CAME HERE TO CALL YOU A KID XDDD
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>>24589999
>>24590006
>>24589989
>>24589983

Jesus Christ, my heart.

The last two seem even more adorable than lewd.
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>>24590033
what about Cilan
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>>24589983
>"Catching such a pure boy... You're a bad man."
This is just like one of my Japanese hentai.
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>>24590033
Drasna? Iris comes because muh dragons. Too bad Ash doesn't have a fairy type to use to BTFO Iris
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>>24590006
>Malva: "Won't you answer me?
>Alan: "I just want to be strong together with Lizardon."
>Malva: "There are plenty of strong Pokémon. Why does it have to be Lizardon?"
>Alan: "I've walked this path together with Lizardon. We've fought together and aimed for the same destination together. I believe in it."
>Malva: "How straightforward you are. No wonder the director likes you."
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>>24590033
Noibat episode about who it chooses to stay with, XY&Z Family or Dragon Master Iris?
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>>24590068
>"Oh my, you seem to be tired. I'll give you some relief."
Somewhere nuzamaki is probably fapping to all of this.
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>>24590070
>implying that Noibat would leave Daddy Ash and Tio Hawlucha?
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>>24589989
Just noticed her eyebrows aren't the same color as her hair
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>>24590077
Move over, Ayaka, Malva is competing with you for Alan.
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>>24590070
Is that even a question

>>24590077
Clearly he has good taste though
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>>24590103
Of, but of course.

Here, check out Malva's curves.
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>>24590080
>>24590103
>implying I said he would
>implying there wouldn't be a scene where he realizes he can't leave his loving family like that
>"You've grown Ash, you're not such a kid anymore, I'm proud of you."
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>>24590059
Maybe if they pull out some "Mega Sommelier" thing. I can see him interested about that, to be honest, and maybe some interesting interactions with Citron I swear I don't remember his eng name now

>>24590066
>yfw waifu gets pissed at Iris going full "kodomo ne" and sends her to the moon with her recently evolved Sylveon

>>24590070
>Noibat
>leaving best parents and Luchadad
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>dat evil seductive look of schadenfreude on Malva's face from seeing Alan seemingly friendzone Manon
>it means Malva has one less piece of competition for Alan
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>>24590111
Clemont
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Why are you all hating on Iris still?

Would it not be better to see her redeemed? It would be better for your feels.

>>24589959
Nigga, Miyu just died a few days ago. Didn't you hear?

The love nectar flows no more, but for the short time we had it in the world, it was as sweet as could be.
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People are okay with Alain beating E4 member and Ash hasn't after 20 years?
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>>24589945
>not_even_trying_anymore.jpg.png.tiff.gif
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I'm now scared of my dick and my heart exploding when Malva meets Ash.
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>Wait for me, Manon. I'll save Harimaron no matter what! So please show me your smile once more!
>yfw Malva called Lysandre a bad man because she wanted Alan for herself and she didn't want Lysandre giving Alan any chance of messing around with Manon
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>>24590149
He knows what he's doing.

Sending Alan on this path is what will doom him.

But Alan isn't what really matters to Lysandre.

Manon is.
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>>24590070
>Dragon Master Iris
>Iris
>Dragon Master
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>This is a story of humans and Pokémon revolving around Mega Evolution.
>Those who fight...
>Those who pray...
>Those who investigate...
>And finally, those who change the world...
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>>24590141
And here we were, little fools hyping about Valerie. This is beyond lewd
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>>24590108
>Noibat even considering leaving at all
Iris please go.
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>In the near future, the bond between humanity and Pokémon will be put to the test.
Are your bodies ready, fagets?
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>>24590177
>hyping yourself up for disappointment.
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>>24590168
That's the animation team's fault, they dropped the ball hardcore there. Valerie not only had potential for most lewd, but feelsy.

It delivered neither.
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>>24590108
No, see, if anything Noibat would refuse Iris immediately, mark Bonnie as a better Dragon master, and all around destroy Iris.
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Will he successfully protect Manon's smile, /vp/?
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>>24590141
And she'll probably beat him because Ash can't be E4
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>>24590219
beat*
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Iris can be redeemed in other ways, people.

At the end, it's revealed what reason she had for coming was BS, it was actually to see Ash.
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>>24590219
He can still beat her but reject being Elite Four either way.
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>>24587143
Darach barely knew her.
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>>24590201
>but feelsy
Eh. /ss/ happened, so that's more than okay.
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>>24587186
IT'S OVER GIOVANNI,I HAVE THE HIGHER GROUND!
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>>24590213
No.

He'll embark on a project to recreate her.

And each time, he will fail too.

He will have spent his whole life trying to protect a smile, and failing.

Such is the fate of all whose greed overwhelmed their hearts. Let this be a lesson.
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>>24590136
It's ok when Alain does it because he isn't Ash
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>>24590227
>she returns to see Ash because she wants to call him a little kid to feel better because of depression
>instead Bonnie ends up calling her a little kid
>she leaves more depressed than how she arrived
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>>24590259
good

>inb4 please no bully
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>>24590230
Agatha: Loss
Drake: Loss
Lorelei: Loss
Flint: Loss
Bertha: Loss

Alain appeared to be close to the same age when he got Charmander. I doubt he's fought and battled as many things as Ash has. If anything Ash should be >>>>>>> Alain.
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>>24590254
>implying Ash won't either later on
He hasn't battled any E4 in Kalos and Diantha really gave it to Wikstrom in the movie.
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>>24590259
That's a really shitty reason for buying a plane ticket anon.

I know you hate Iris, but look constructively how we can save her, instead of looking to see her face ground into the dust.
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>>24590277
Easy.
She doesn't appear.
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>>24590272
The point is Ash has battled 40+ gym leaders, people with legendaries, competed in 5 different leagues. He should have been able to do what Alain has before Alain did it.
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>>24590291
Again, wait until a bit later. Besides, Unova wasn't exactly the best place for that.
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>>24589415
Better return it because he's the one who took it away in the first place.
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>>24590318
Is there supposed to be a romance between Alain and Mamon or is it just a pseudo-imouto kind of thing? I haven't been keeping up with the ME episodes that much.
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>>24589983
>yfw she meets pure boys like Ash, Clemont, and Shota
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>>24590334
Nooo! Not the Shota
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>>24590166
Literally fucking battle shounen speech.
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>>24590334
>>24590340
>Shota
>pure
>after Valerie's /ss/

>Ash
>pure
>purposely wanting to hold hands
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Make dawn reappear...or hilda and hilbert.
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>>24590213
>protect it after failing to do so
>going out instead of staying by her side
>yfw he'll probably blame Ash for not being a proper hero and protecting Manon's smile for him
>yfw Ash will break his illusions and tell him to protect her smile himself
>yfw his battle with Ash is in his POV
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>>24590356
Dawn is corrupted and Hilda/Hilbert are nonexistent
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>>24590331
There are clearly pushing something.
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>>24590318
>makes Manon lose her smile
>will most likely take Bonnie's smile because of Squishy
>will probably attempt to take Serena and Ash's smile but they both protect one another's smile from Alain
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Are any of the main protags pure?
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>>24590366
Would they have gotten away with this if they were the same age? Ash has never hugged any of his female companions after all.
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>>24590366
Pomfing with how Manon is too close to the belt area?
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Alain's so much better than Ash, so unfortunate this will be very likely his last series.
Fucking Ash-nime
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>>24590375
It's just a hug, it's not like they are hugging while lying down.
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/VP/ full opening when?
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>>24590331
>Mamon

There's very little beyond a generic sort of kid show caring.

Manon and Alan clearly care for each other more than one would an average person, and Alan is now trying to "return her smile" and Manon wants to be with Alan because she's stronger when she's with him and all that jazz. Worrying about each other, yadda yadda. But there's been nothing really specific that would make it romantic or anything like that. Not even blushing, the go to shipping nonsense indicator. They're just close.

A lot of it probably comes down to age, which you noted there. Manon looks like she's supposed to be generic Pokemon trainer 10 year old and Alan something older, more like the MCs of XY. If she's actually that young, not unlikely given her just having started out, and not just small or Alan is mid teens and not a freakishly tall 10 year old, it's unlikely the show is angling towards any romantic.
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>>24590369
>Clemont's smile is taken
>nobody cares
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So can we officially count Alain as a member of Team Flare now?
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>>24590378
The stuff with Alain seems like such forced edginess. He's kind of a boring character, he doesn't have much range to his character at all. Ash is a much more fun character.
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>>24590388
Only when he enjoys his own villainy.
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>>24590331
They have the sweetest possible oniichan-imouto relationship.

Wincest ending is on the way
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>>24590388
I wouldn't say that. The latest special makes it even more clear he's being manipulated and duped by Lysandre into doing his dirty work. He's not officially part of the team because he doesn't even know he's working for them.
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>>24590390
That's because your Ash is oriented at younger audiences aka you're a kid.
Mature people like me enjoy more mature characters.

But really Ash is for kids.
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>>24590398
>wincest
The lemon siblings have that covered.
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>>24590409
>not doubling the degeneracy to make up for the vanilla that's Ash and Serena
Remember, degeneracy and shameful lust.
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>>24590369
Will Malva call N pure if she met him?
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>>24590415
>vanilla
Is it really? Both have shown they're impure degenerates that want to do lewd things to each other.

On another note, fuck off Hoopa. Its the 5th straight donut captcha puzzle
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>>24590340
Holy shit he's stoned.
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>>24590442
Trying to keep his mind off Valerie.
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Can I get some insight here?

>http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-network-november-2015-premiere-info.5510182/

What the hell is "Lights! Camera! Pika!" supposed to be? Literally what?
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>>24590457
It's XY78, the episode the dub initially skipped for whatever reason
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>>24590436
You're right.
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>>24590457
Pikachu episode with the cosplay pikachus? I think it's the same one where Playerking believes is a special, fucking up their numbering for XY.
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>>24590457
XY78 or SS33 if you follow bulbapedo's retarded numbering system.
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>>24590463
Because Ikue Ohtani's likeness was there?
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>>24590463
>>24590467
>XY78
but anon, it's a special

even TPCi is backing bulbapedo up :^)
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>>24590422
No. She'll just want to break him.
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>>24590471
God knows. If I were to guess, TPCi are so retarded they think it's a Hoopa movie tie-in, so they saved it for when they were going to air the movie.
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>>24590482
The movie they're not even airing this month?
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>>24590487
I thought they were. I don't pay much attention to what the dub does.
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>He doesn’t do anything for me. I mean, TSME in general leaves me pretty cold but Alain is an especially underwhelming presence.

>He just feels like those movie protagonists whose emotional range gets expanded from 0 to 3.5% by the sudden appearance of an MPDG (not that Mairin is entirely comparable to an MPDG, mind you; I do realize she has more depth than that).

>I guess there’s only so much you can do with a character who’s been taught this mantra of “becoming the strongest” and thus does nothing but fight all the time, with the occasional flare of masculine protectiveness towards his cute little follower.

>Not my cup of tea.

Why is Sushi so based?
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>>24590521
Alain needs friendship from Ash.
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>>24590521
Because she's in love
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>>24590540
Would she an Ash?
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>>24590521
It feels like Scott strikes again for some reason.
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>>24590549
Totally
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>>24590521
I would have preferred eight Mega Evolution special episodes. That way there would have been more time to give the characters more complicated and multifaceted personalities/stories. Alan just felt so one-dimensionally focused on becoming the strongest, just as Manon felt so one-dimensionally focused on following Alan and keeping him in check. It just felt like other aspects of those two's personalities were paid brief lip service and then left alone.

That being said, I loved the darker, more mature tone of the specials. I wish the Pokemon anime proper was more like them instead of continuing to be a relatively superficial, formulaic and sugar-coated most of the time. And I thought the last mega special was really fucking good.
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>>24590521
>TSME in general leaves me pretty cold
Thanks for all you do but that's pretty shit taste.
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>>24590540
WITH TIERNO, R-RIGHT?
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>>24590574
She makes some fair points, anon. I liked the Mega Evolution specials overall, but I can see why she feels the way she does.
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>>24590593
Why would she know what it was? That's not what her planet looks like.
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>>24590563
Hopefully Alain will become a bit more interesting in XYZ. He's not really a fun character, like any of the XY gang is. And maybe that's the point.
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>>24590602
>not even knowing what a globe is
Alain pls leave
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>>24590577
Olympia
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>>24590574
Not really. Alan is literally Edge: The Character. Manon, the one cute girl of the series has a devout crush on him despite him being a complete cunt who treats her like shit, and really the whole thing comes across as being darker and edgier for the sake of it.
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>>24590617
To be fair, cramming all that into four episodes is no easy task. Something was going to have to get short shrift if the writers were going to fit everything into 80-some-odd minutes.
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Even Charizard knows his reasoning is bullshit.
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>dude, the fuck did you just do?
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>>24590629
See pic related. Charizard knows that Alan dun goofed.
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>>24590640
Charizard knows that Manon should be treated properly. Alan is just a twat. He's like Hitler, The Tobias Guy, Celebi Movie Guy and the Guy Who Storyboarded the Unova League all rolled into one.
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>>24590617
>as being darker and edgier for the sake of it.
Really? I thought it was the story of how a naive kid becomes corrupted due to bad influence and purposely isolated from people he loves who can save him which results in him becoming the bad guy to contrast the main story where a kid is surrounded by people who love and support him so they both give off different moods? Guess it was just darker and edgier for no reason.
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>>24590642
>I want to fucking punch you in the face, but my dragon talon things can't really make proper fists.
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>>24590648
C'mon, now, Anon, I know that it was bad, but do you really think worst director is as bad as ____Hitler____? The former's probably the worse of the two.
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Those tsurime eyes. What a cutie.
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>>24590683
Didn't fix the OP

Holy shit kill yourself.
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>>24589969
Think of it this way. If it didn't mega evolve, its stats would be lower so it'll most likely get wrecked by dragon claw. Crunch was just enough to cancel out Dragon Claw when it was mega evolved. I don't think it has enough power to stop the claws if it didn't mega. Malva's mistake was ordering crunch when it didn't know Charizard had Blast Burn. That thing can't be dodged up close so you have to tank it like what Steven's Megagross did.
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>>24590686
I kept the link to XY93's subs since they only came out only a few days ago. We can remove them once XY&Z01's subs come out tomorrow.
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>>24590697
You didn't readd the intro text this thread's OP fucked up.

Just delete your thread, here's a corrected version.
>>24590702
>>24590702
>>24590702
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>>24589324
The entire time his voice appeared I started dying with laughter, I'll never not find it funny.
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>>24590715
Nice catch, I've deleted it. Thanks for the save.
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>>24590741
Also, sorry if this came across as awfully autistic
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>>24590642
"Yeah I do you bitch ass nigga, you ain't got no game son. How you gon' treacho bae like that? I'll punch you in yo bitch ass mouth in a second."
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>>24590466
>Thinking the special episode is a normal episode.
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>>24590467
>>http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-network-november-2015-premiere-info.5510182/
It's the correct numbering system and please refer the actual name of Bulbapedia, dumb-ass.
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>>24590472
There not backing Bulbapedia up, they're just doing the smart thing by not implying that it's a normal episode.
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