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>Still an inferior Clefable
Seriously fuck you GF, can't you do anything right? I'm sick of having my favorites being so openly discriminated against.
If gen 7 doesn't buffs Wigglytuff to at least 480 BST, I hope Masuda and his whole family dies off a car accident. That will wipe that stupid smug yellow smile out of his face. Why is Masuda & his team such idiots?
Wigglytuff's won a VGC regional
Clefable hasn't
g i t g u d
>>24754923
>gets additional 45 points BST
>140->185 HP
t-thanks Gamefreak...
>>24754923
Is sad how weak and outclassed Pokemon become more famous than the ones that are better thanks to the anime: Pikachu is an inferior Jolteon, Jigglypuff is a bad Clefairy clone, Charmander was the one that evolve instead of Bulbasaur, Chikorita was the one that evolve instead of Cyndaquil, before getting a mega Pidgey line was always outclassed by Fearow line, Donphan is a bad bulky attacker, Sceptile is the worst of the Hoenn starters, Glalie is a joke Pokemon even with a mega, Torterra is the worst of the Sinnoh starters, Buizel is a bad Pokemon, even with HA Oshawott is the worst of Unova starters, compared with Unfezant Swanna at least can cover one of its weaknesses, Numerugon is a better Pokemon than Noivern.
>someone actually likes Wigglytuff
Idk. Maybe if you didnt compare one Pokemon to another based solely on typing or what niche it fills you wouldn't be so disappointed. Every Pokemon has some sort of use
>>24754923
at least it still has STAB Hyper voice
>>24755206
Wigglytuff really doesn't.
>>24755208
>>24755207for one thing
>>24755030
So you're saying only good Pokemon should be popular or be in the anime? That's stupid.
>>24755216
Yeah, but then why not just use Mega Gardevoir or Sylveon? Wigglytuff really is bad. I guess it at least gets Wish? But Aromatisse does it and is much bulkier.
>>24755225
That brings me back to my other point. You're comparing wiggly to other Pokemon. Maybe you'd rather have something else for your mega spot. Maybe you want a hazard setter. Im not trying to convince you wigglytuff is good but its far from being useless
>>24755236
4chan thinks my reply is spam, so here's a chopped down version of what I was going to post originally:
Everyone compares pokemon to other pokemon. Wigglytuff is shit because no matter what you compare it to or what role you give it, it's outclassed. It's shit.
>>24755218
No. I mean that all the Pokemon, good or bad, should be in the anime but the bad are the ones that are more popular instead of both groups.
>>24755208
>>24755225
Competitive, STAB Hyper Voice, a varied special movepool and being Normal type
it's pretty shit but it's not outclassed, otherwise >>24754938 wouldn't have happened
>inferior Clefable
It's worse than that, OP.
Wigglytuff can do one thing and only one thing, and that's threaten Mandibuzz. That's literally it outside of PU. And come on, that's PU.
>>24755286
is this list saying that clefairy and articuno do the same level of jobs as each other? man i feel bad for best bird
>>24755788
Articuno is held back by Stealth Rock.
>>24755809
Also a really shitty defensive typing and a pretty eh movepool. Clefairy does well because it's got a good setup move, good typing, decent bulk, and a godly movepool.
>>24755286
>Wigglytuff is literally worse than Clefairy
>Wigglytuff is literally as bad as Flareon
It hurts
>>24754923
Give it Boomburst
>>24755286
>Swalot is worse than Flareon
>>24756157
Swalot is as good as Flareon, apparently.
>>24756157
It's on par with Flareon.
That pic has them listed in Alphabetical Order.
>>24755809
It's insane that something with 580 BST is unusable in higher tiers just because of one hazard.
It needs less attack points. Those points need to be allocated to its defenses. Before anything else, Wigglytuff severely needs to have its defenses buffed. Even with HP that huge, it's frail as fuck. The last stat it needs to have buffed is speed.
Mega wigglytuff. It just gets fluffier.
Fur coat
+50 special defence
+20 defence
+20 special attack
+10 attack
Not shit anymore.
>>24759302
I'd be ok with it, just want to use my Tuff
>>24754923
Is Clefable immune to ghost?
That's right, faggot.
>>24756257
it's not only that but it's stat distribution is horrible
it has a perfect typing for a frail but fast sweeper, and instead they made it a slowish defensive mediocre special attacker with no way to boost anything but speed
seriously, ice/flying with freeze-dry has near perfect coverage, and is already pretty held back by stealth rock, and yet they made it all defensive and slow as shit
literally all it needed was just a swap between special attack and special defense, like it had in gen 1
>>24756124
this would be great, actually.
competitive + spammable move with good coverage and decent hp would make it SO much better
like a shittier exploud but with the niche of a different typing and the defensive fairy stuff (wish, heal bell, thunder wave, etc)
>>24759302
take from attack and put it into special attack, it doesn't have any use for the attack boost
>>24760459
it doesn't have any use for it but even with it it's fucking great.
140 HP is great
65 defence is kinda shit but with fur coat its effectively base 180. Furfrou has base 60, for comparison.
100 special defence works.
The wall no one asked for. Bonus points for being able to switch in (non mega) on defog and get +2 special attack.
It needs its base stat distribution reworked and buffed first.
Like swap its defense and attack stat
>>24760472
sure but it really needs all it can get in special attack to be worth anything in OU
either that or speed idk
>>24760485
252 Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Mega-Wigglytuff: 190-225 (39.2 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>>24760487
yes i get it's a great defensive wall, but then what's it going to do back against darmanitan? also don't forget the huge amount of mold breaker users
>>24760491
???what does this thing do???
Wigglytuff has all the moves it has bar softboiled.
>>24754923
At least you weren't side-armed by some fat ground tumor and fucked up the only goddamn thing they had going for this Pokemon. Fucking GameFreak can't balance shit.
>>24760494
well ok then
>>24760494
>>24760487
>>24759302
>wigglytuff + chansey core
Cancer incarnate
