Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.
>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed
>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g
>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8
>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo
Next episode:
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
Upcoming episodes:
>Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special [Jul 14th]
>XY&Z034: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! [Jul 21st]
>XY&Z035: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile [Jul 28th]
Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.
>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.
Old thread:
>>26976201
DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent
XY&Z30 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_030_Find_Melecie!_Numelgon_and_Dedenne!![H264_720P][617EE2E4].mkv.torrent
XY&Z31 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=821168
XY&Z32 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=825595
NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z33: MEGA JUKAIN VS RAICHU! I RECEIVED SOME EXP!! (JULY 7TH)
>As the Kalos League continues on with exciting matches, Shota and Tierno go up against each other! What is the secret plan Shota has come up with against Tierno, who fights using his special dance strategy?
>Summary:
>As the Kalos League continues on with fierce matches, Shota and Tierno go up against each other! Shota makes use of his knowledge and analyses as he goes up against Tierno, who specializes in a rhythm strategy that utilizes dancing. The battle gets truly heated right from the very beginning! Which of them will be Satoshi's next opponent!?
>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Yurie Kobori: Sana
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Masaki Aizawa: Kenzo
>Miyuu Sawai: Ayaka
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Hitomi Nabatame: Peroream
>Kensuke Sato: Announcer
>Tsuguo Mogami: Referee
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
UPCOMING SHIT:
POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 40 (July 10th)
Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special (Jul 14th)
>The grand "Legend VS Legend" battle airs for the first time anywhere!
>The 2015 blockbuster The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa & Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians
>Also features a SMASHING world premiere showcase of footage from this year's Pokémon movie, Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna!
>The Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special airs Thursday July 14th at 6pm
XY&Z034: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! (Jul 21st)
>Having won his way through the Kalos League thus fur, Shota goes up against Ash, the person he admires!
XY&Z035: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile (Jul 28th)
>This high level battle between two Trainers that know each other like the back of their own hand finally approaches its conclusion!!
DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/74rn/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac
KIRAKIRA (BY CITRON, CV YUKI KAJI):
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/IWEafb12/file.html
VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
repostan YUKI
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5122457/
Flying to the new thread, let's hope PM catches up soon with the subs.
NO FLYING ALLOWED
>>26979621
>can you prove that serena loves ash
>>26979536
>Not sure if I see much of a merit to this other than pleasing amourshippers.
There are, let say for now, 3 types of Pokemon anime viewers: Amourshippers, Pokemon lovers, Ash lovers. Lets say the animators or whoever is in charge of the anime only cares about ratings (which means keep ash at all costs)
If you reset everything, amourshippers and pokemon lovers will leave because this is the second time already they expected a real development on ash and resseting everything justs tells you "we will never be a good anime"
If Serena stays, yeah sure you please everyone, but in my case, i dont wanna see Serena being just an extra and do cute things. I want more from her (and im sure everyone does), and i dont see her being more than that if she stays.
On the other hand, if ash story ends and stays with serena, you please amourshippers (for obvious reasons), you please pokemon lovers because literally nothing related to battles/world would change, and while you not please ash lovers/pikachu as pokemon mascot, you can always make the protagonist be ash and serena child, and make the protagonist constantly call them for easy cameos. Pikachu can stay too obviously.
You keep amour, you keep ash and pikachu as pokemon mascots, and is a fresh, belieavable start.
>>26979629
>>26979629
hey i was gonna post my own post dude
How salty is /padt/ going to be when Ash loses to Alain and Serena leaves to performance train with Palermo?
>this entire discussion
Personally I like amour but the main draw for me is Ash winning the league. As long as that happens I won't ask anything more out of XY aside from a non-rage inducing separation from Ash's companions.
>>26979651
About as salty as if the opposite happens.
>>26979591
The only literal rut he's gotten out of was because of his Pokemon back in DP. Only time he's had it bad was in DP and even more so in XY.
Her "whopping three 'be yourselves'" has done more for Ash than all the time he's actually journeyed.
>>26979656
Matsuda in an interview: The day Ash wins the league is the day the anime ends.
Good luck with that.
Why's it feel like some guy decided to bring the shit from last thread when a lot of it was bait?
>>26979629
>Ash and Serena's child
>Fresh start
It's never gonna happen, anon. Just let it go. Just let amourshipping die peacefully, cuz this anime is gonna keep wringing out the same formula even after it's popularity drops lower than johnny test
>>26979667
Wasn't that bullshit?
>>26979651
Meh, he'll probably beat Alan to save the world if he does lose, which is more important than some regional tournament.
If Serena does leave, I'm inclined to think she won't go with Yashio at all, but train by herself to mirror Ash.
>>26979667
>Matsuda in an interview: The day Ash wins the league is the day the anime ends.
You don't even know what and who you're quoting.
>>26979667
source?
>>26979564
Reminder
>"Don't waste time with plebs!"
>"Your turn is coming, go and show'em!"
>>26979672
Wew lad, just chill out with the conspiracy theories. :^)
>>26979629
it would literally be another Ash to hate on.
>>26979667
>Matsuda
>>26979682
>save the world
who fucking cares about that shit if he doesnt have a league trophy and a pussy to fuck?and cute babies
>>26979680
His whole post is bullshit.
There's no "Matsuda", winning the league doesn't mean becoming a master, and Ash would only become a master when the anime ends.
I just want Amour to happen so Pokeshippers can suffer for all eternity.
>>26979659
>Her "whopping three 'be yourselves'" has done more for Ash than all the time he's actually journeyed.
Yeah, what was the point of all that adventure and experience? He could have just had some girl tell him to "be himself" three times and gained so much more.
Oh wow.
This episode is the next one in the dub.
For the first time in months, I might actually watch the dub.
>>26979707
episodes like this remind me why i hate anime in general
>>26979714
>hating wincest
>>26979714
t. Bonnie
>>26979677
Because apparently the only measure of Ash's competency is BW or XY. Oh no, he can't get some sort of middle ground, because mon selection and availability, training technique, and rival competency apparently aren't factors that exist.
>>26979714
>hating lemons
>>26979704
Let's ask BW about how it all went down.
No, seriously, go be ass-blasted about Serena being one of Ash's bigger motivators somewhere else.
>>26979725
found Cave Johnson
>>26979717
thats the thing its not even supposed to be wincest and certainly doesnt make sense in the fucking pokemon animealthough i wish it actually was wincest
>Serena leaving without confessing
inb4 that one picture of Volcatron adjusting Mageureka's "temperature"
>>26979723
His competency in DP was pretty similar to XY, they just shat on it at the end. BW is comparable to OS, the only thing barring any middleground is AG but it wasn't too different from OS.
>>26979704
>some girl
If Misty, Iris, or even Dawn or May tried it, it would've resulted in a shouting match that would make things worse.
Serena works because she met him at a time before Gary turned Ash into a little shit and actually knows there's something to Ash aside from the excitable battle savant.
>>26979750
The thing is at the time Ash's competency in AG stood out because the only thing to compare it to was the OS at the time. Ash evolving most of his pokemon, only getting one starter, being portrayed as a mentor to May, it was all new and fresh at the time.
Obviously now comparing it to DP and XY, AG seems like "middle ground" which it essentially was, but at the time it wasn't. Ash also took down two legendaries in AG (Articuno and Regice) and conquered the Battle Frontier which is his last major accomplishment.
>>26979761
>>26979750
I'm actually talking about the anons that claim that the only way for Ash to go next season is back to BW.
>>26979761
He doesn't care about any of that because character growth isn't important to him.
>>>26979677 →
>watching another Pikachu that is less competent than Ash's...
Don't know what to say about that.
>>26979782
>Zygarde is a dragon
>people think Iris won't show up during the Team Flare arc despite that being the perfect time for her to show up
shauna's dub VA makes my cock hard as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htMCs7aqJ70
>>26979788
People want a hype Team Flare, not shit.
On Serebii some people think Iris will cameo in the Alola region instead because of her darker skin, since she'll fit the native Hawaii look better. I doubt it though, by the time next gen starts she'll be two gens old...she will be deemed to old to be seen again
>>26979788
Iris is also barely competent when handling dragons. If anything, her showing up would actually make things worse.
>>26979781
Sure, but that we have to assume that his competency will be diminished(more or less) for it to make sense that Ash will still be the protagonist in SM to me is a huge turn off.
>>26979731
Ash's motivation has nothing to do with Serena. Ash's motivation is personal. That's why telling him to "be himself" is what helped him. Without his journeys he would not be the character that he is, thus Serena's contribution would have no effect.
>>26979761
All she did was tell him to be himself. Her background doesn't matter at all in this regard, especially since he didn't even remember her the first time she did it. Your first line is baseless headcanon.
>>26979800
On Sere-fuck off Scott.
>>26979784
Perhaps you should learn to read english Pedro, or go back to your side of the border.
>>26979796
>>26979811
...what? that didn't make any sense.
>>26979802
Or how about, since it's a new region and all, Ash actually stays competent and it's his new team that has to measure up.
Kinda like in those games the anime is ostensibly based on.
>>26979810
No, really, go be mad about Serena being one of Ash's motivators and how you try calling headcanon to things while making up your own headcanon at some other place.
>>26979812
Don't see where I misread. Having another trainer with a weaker Pikachu to replace Ash is just pointless.
>>26979827
And why did they that only with DP?
>>26979810
>known character traits of girls and how Ash has gotten into fights over petty reasons with them
>moments that are shown that Ash got Ash out of moments that even Pokemon couldn't even when supposedly no knowing her
>journeys not working out for him and even one person points out about Serena was the trigger
>headcanon
>>26979804
I still wonder how Pancham got that big stick in there without breaking.
>>26979833
You sure posted a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
Just be yourself, anon! Look, now I'm the biggest motivator in your life.
>>26979846
>>moments that are shown that Serena got Ash out of moments that even his Pokemon couldn't even when supposedly not knowing her
Christ I need sleep and not reply to bait when tired.
>>26979840
Because we're not time-travelers and we don't know if they'd do it in SM, but people still assume that Ash will automatically be nerfed.
>>26979854
he's bigger on the inside
>>26979834
>implying Ash's Pikachu hasn't been weakened for no reason at the beginning of every region
>>26979868
Lewd
>>26979856
I don't know anon, you'd have to be there when I'm down and at a loss, and also know me personally enough to know if "Be yourself" would actually help or be a detriment.
>>26979846
Why the fuck would he get into a fight over "be yourself?" That's a positive thing to say. You're just making shit up. It didn't matter who said it, all that mattered was Ash being his own primary motivator and the line reinforcing that.
Yes no shit things don't always work out, that's what shaped him as a character. That experience is far more important to his growth then a character merely reminding him of that growth in a super indirect way.
>>26979874
Ash's Pikachu doesn't. He only gets nerfed to keep it from overpowering his newer mons. He regains his strength during certain situations such as facing legendaries or against matches that matter such as the Elite 4. While making someone new is starting everything from scratch.
>>26979856
Gotta let everyone know that you're mad about Serena actually playing a key part in Ash's development, doncha?
>>26979927
>Ash's Pikachu doesn't
>He only gets nerfed to keep it from overpowering his newer mons
That doesn't make sense.
>>26979927
Actually, he wasn't nerfed in XY.
>>26979954
From the start, Has the anime really made sense?
>>26979973
I'm talking about the statement not the anime.
>>26979924
So somehow pointing out that Serena is a main motivator that even a character points out is headcanon while every other girl saying "be yourself" when they wouldn't and are known to doing other things isn't?
Just go to bed. I'm also hitting the hay because I'm tired of giving you (You)s.
>>26979961
I believe they started following a bit of game mechanics in XY to make it believable. But comparable to when Pikachu was in DP when he tied against that Latios or beat that Regice. I still thinks Pikachu is nerfed.
Ash could still retain his competence and just have to train new mons in S/M, like another anon said. The only problem here is if the writers continue with the idiotic notion that winning a league means Ash can't travel anymore.
If he beats the Lumiose Conference, he could still go on. Ending Ash's portion of the show would be better for him, though.
The only time he really reset as a trainer was in BW.
>>26979874
>sick when they got to Hoenn
>separated from Ash in Sinnoh
>drained by Zekrom in Unova
Eh, there were reasons, they were just flimsy. Johto had Ash still being a bit green, and Kalos has him matching a Gym Leader who specializes in Electric Pokemon.
>>26979886
Wow, it's almost like your personal experience and character are what shape who you are, and "be yourself" is only effective if you're already primarily self-motivated.
Of course no one would think to say "be yourself" when someone seems to lack confidence, it's a profound piece of advice reserved for those who know you best. Truly your biggest motivators.
>>26979985
Serena's not his main motivator. His motivation is his own drive to be a pokemon master. She psyched him out of a rut, which was great, but she's not the only positive influence in his whole damn life.
Dawn helped Ash get out of a bad mood after Paul destroyed him and put thought into making him feel better. It was a great gesture, but you won't see me claiming that her one action means more to Ash's journey than everything else he's experienced. It's idiotic.
You're overestimating how much he fights with the others. Motivating him wouldn't make them fight.
Also, the fact that he didn't fight with Serena speaks more to the fact that Ash is more mature than he was in past seasons than her character, itself. You think Ash gives a shit that she met him as a kid in that particular moment?
He got better at taking criticism.
>>26979984
Pikachu gets nerfed in the series but it doesn't mean he hasn't shown development.
>>26979986
You know, what notable victories has Pikachu had during XY?
Greninja has stolen pretty much all the spotlight lately.
>>26979987
>The only problem here is if the writers continue with the idiotic notion that winning a league means Ash can't travel anymore.
They could do a timeskip like other anons have suggested, it wouldn't mean he never went to places like Alola, just that we didn't see it.
>>26980018
Beating Mega Lucario.
>>26980018
Yeah, because of Synchro. But we weren't talking about Greninja.
>>26980021
That'd be perfectly fine. Show that he's grown and accomplished at least a significant chunk of his dream.
>>26980013
But like with Ash, more or less his progress has been put to a halt at the beginning of a new series, so this >>26979784 and this >>26979834 doesn't really fly.
>>26980012
>Dawn helped Ash get out of a bad mood after Paul destroyed him and put thought into making him feel better. It was a great gesture, but you won't see me claiming that her one action means more to Ash's journey than everything else he's experienced. It's idiotic.
Dawn didn't actually get Ash out of any bad mood. That was all done by his Pokemon. In fact, by the time Dawn did anything Ash was already fine and dandy. Also, that guy said "a main motivator".
>>26980018
Pikachu was his ace for the first three gyms, before everyone else caught up. He still pulled his weight in all the other gyms, even if he wasn't a legal participant. He also demonstrated the bond and trust Ash and his Pokemon share when he was forced to battle blind.
>>26980041
I remembered that scene wrong, my mistake. But the point still stands. Had that been the case, it'd still be silly to elevate her to that.
She's not even a main motivator. She's a friend who got him to realize something he was missing. Sure, it's a significant role, but he's elevating Serena beyond what she's done.
>>26980040
That's because they nerf Pikachu at the start of a new region so he wouldn't overshadow the new mons from developing. Doesn't mean Ash or Pikachu has stopped developing. Even after he returns back to a region like Kanto or after the league Pikachu's power returns.
>>26980001
Being self-motivated doesn't mean you won't stumble at some point and need help.
And "Be yourself" is actually pretty bad advice for people with defeatist personalities. You'd actually have to know the person to know if the "yourself" you're referring to isn't some piece of shit that wouldn't actually help anyone at all.
>>26980012
I didn't say she was the main motivator, I said a main one. She got him out of his rut when he was training for the rematch, when it was going bad and Ash started caving Serena triggered him during the battle, Shalour he turned to her, and then there's what happened in Snowbelle.
Dawn didn't actually do anything until long after Ash was fine so really she can't even be counted.
The thing about the other characters is some of them wouldn't even try motivating him or they'd somehow end up fighting.
You still have Ash reacting negatively to things in XY, Alexa makes the mention about Serena actually being the trigger, and he still knew the strawhat girl even if he couldn't initially put strawhat and Serena as one and the same.
>>26980072
The reason is clear, but the point is that Pikachu also gets nerfed, so it wouldn't be outrageous seeing somebody else with a Pikachu less competent than Ash's because to varying degrees that happens at the beginning of each new region.
>>26980070
The point kind of actually falls apart because of that scene. Not to mention you got Alexa's shit during the first gym. Ash even credits her after the gym when she didn't actually do anything other than motivate him.
>>26980089
See>>26980045 and >>26979996
The thing is, Pikachu rarely gets actually nerfed significantly nowadays, the writers are just bringing him more in line with the games as a surprisingly powerful yet fragile mon.
>>26980012
>>26980070
You know, somehow people elevate Ash's Pokemon for doing that, yet when Serena does it they try putting it down.
Why is that?
>>26980089
Although they are both nerfed, At least Ash's Pikachu has history of development. While starting a new region with a new Pikachu at Alola is destroying all that development. Replacing Ash's Pikachu when it could continue on to develop at a new region feels like a waste. And at least Ash doesn't need to travel to the same places like Johto, Sinnoh or Unova again. Making a replacement for Ash and Pikachu just isn't different nor an improvement from what we have.
>>26980132
I'm not in this crap or anything, but isn't that history of development also part of the problem when it comes to Pikachu?
>>26980131
Because people inflate Serena to be the biggest thing in his life when he canonically doesn't romanticize their friendship like that. He appreciates her support and she's helped him a number of times, credit is due for that.
But if you think in Ash Ketchum's mind, he's thinking "I've got to win this because Serena's supporting me!" you're fooling yourself.
Ash's pokemon are directly involved in his goal and his interactions with them directly revolve around their shared dream of getting stronger/making him a pokemon master.
He also has a pattern of putting most of his focus and passion into pokemon. That's primarily what Ash lives for.
To say Serena helps him and inspires him now and then would be correct. To say she's a main motivator sounds over the top. Especially when that relationship is used to put down his friendships with other characters who've also backed him up before.
>>26980041
She is not a main motivator. He is not doing anything for her sake, least of all pursuing his goal or growing as a character. His goal is Pokemon mastery. He grows because he needs to defeat stronger opponents, and grow together with his Pokemon. All she did was very indirectly remind him of that. That's not as significant as his actual work towards it or his reason for doing it, nor the people who directly contribute to it by challenging him and/or expanding his knowledge.
>>26980078
It's common advice regardless and only works because Ash's motivation is internal. Neither his goal nor the advice has anything to do with Serena, they both revolve around Ash himself.
>>26980082
Serena didn't say anything to him in the flashback. Him recognizing her visually means nothing. The fuck does it matter what Alexa says? Ash and Dawn got called a couple in DP, that doesn't make it canon. Again, Serena isn't the motivator, only Ash's own motivation.
>he will get his revenge and kick Ash out of the league
>>26980167
The anime has been going around for a long time and I can see all those nerfs and losses pissing people off.
In my opinion, it's better to continue watching Ash's Pikachu fail/win instead switching over where a new Pikachu has to go through all those problems as well for 6 regions. I just don't see much improvement in a new pikachu if its going to go through the same ordeal as Ash's but from scratch.
>>26980192
He is not in the league, and he told Ash to win it for him and all the others who couldn't compete in the league
>>26980180
Really now, for everyone the biggest thing is their Pokemon, even for Serena.
Also, no one's ever said that second line you posted. Ash's Pokemon are tied to him and his goal, but saying Serena isn't when she affects his character to be able to do his goal is just ridiculous.
Also, Serena being a main motivator isn't even over the top when they actually show it in the episodes where he has the most character growth.
>>26980186
>That's not as significant as his actual work towards it or his reason for doing it, nor the people who directly contribute to it by challenging him and/or expanding his knowledge.
You mean besides the part where it affects him as a person and in turn him as a trainer? Just go.
>The fuck does it matter what Alexa says? Ash and Dawn got called a couple in DP, that doesn't make it canon. Again, Serena isn't the motivator, only Ash's own motivation.
Ah, I think I see what this is now with your whole fixation about Serena not being a motivator. You sound like some mad Pearlfag.
For your record, what Alexa said was shown before she said it and right after in the same episode, then in multiple episodes.
I've spent years meaning to catch up on the anime. I got through every episode until Johto and I had to skip the filler, it was unbearable. I then got to about the first badge of Hoenn and it just sort of fizzled out for me.
This time I'm just going to watch the essentials such as gym badges. Any thing that is REALLY important that I should watch beside those sorts of episodes?
>>26979592
Thank you based anon
Data Broadcast When..??
>>26980180
The date episode was there to point out that Serena's actually important to him, so her being a motivator isn't over the top or farfetched. You have friends but you'd had Serena affect Ash on a personal level.
What is amour?
>>26980266
Every Bonnie episode.
>>26980266
For XY and XY&Z you should just watch it all. Even the fillers are enjoyable.
>>26980273
After this week's episode.
>>26980266
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed
Airing/viewing order:
Best Wishes Decolora Adventure 20 (not XY, but it's recommended you watch this first, since XY1 has a lot of callbacks to dialogue from it)
XY0
XY1-11
Complete Overview! Pocket Monsters XY Special!!
XY12-21
Best Wishes Season 2 Decolora Adventure Special - Iris VS Ibuki! The Road to Dragon Master!!
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act I
XY22-35
Movie 17 Guide
Movie 17 Premiere Special with TV Special
XY Movie 1 Short
XY Movie 1
XY36-49
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act II
XY50-54
New Year's Eve 2014 Super Mega Special
XY55-64
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act III
XY65-78
Movie 18 OVA
XY79-81
Movie 18 Appear! Special
XY Movie 2 Short
XY Movie 2
XY82-93
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV
XY&Z1-9
XY&Z Complete Overview Special
XY&Z10-32
>>26980288
Flabebe don't hurt me
Don't hurt me, no more
>>26980265
>You sound like some mad Pearlfag.
Nice ad hominem. What was shown was Serena reinforcing Ash's own motivation with a generic piece of advice not specific to her character, except perhaps artificially. The point is it has no bearing on her staying or leaving, because even in her own season she wasn't a major factor to the plot when Ash is still by and large self-driven.
All it does is slightly expedite his return to the character that he already is, which developed independently from Serena. Any actual growth from that previous point that follows has nothing to do with Serena at all, involving Ash, his Pokemon and other characters. Again, her role is minor and sparse as fuck, literally three brief moments in this entire massive show.
>>26980298
Thanks for this. It's not so much that I just want to catch up with current airing so much as while I'd like to watch everything (except fucking Johto which made me want to slit my wrists) the number of episodes is daunting so I figure I might as well see the really good shit.
I've heard shit talking about the D/P series, but from the episode outlines I've seen, it looks like it actually tries to avoid filler. And by filler I don't just mean non-badge/league episodes.
>>26980305
3 more episodes confirmed!
-Final Battle! Alain VS Satoshi!!
-Reaching the Climax! Mega Charizard X VS Ultimate Satoshi-Greninja!!!
-Kalos League Ends! Hopes for a Tomorrow!!
>>26980342
Source? It's not on Serebii.
>>26980306
No one made any mention of her going or staying, said generic advice is always generically given from the love interest to the protagonist.
What you're talking about is what happens in all shounen with personal growth of the protagonist being reflected from the what the love interest told said protagonist. In short, it looks minor but it actually plays a major role for the main character.
As for your ad hominem, now it really is one. You don't sound like one, you are one.
>>26980342
>Ultimate Satoshi-Greninja!!!
Bullshit. That extra ! did it.
wat
https://twitter.com/gakken_animedia/status/750208147810168832
>>26980372
It's a sample of the poster.
>>26980380
what is the full poster
>>26980186
Everything you typed up made no sense whatsoever.
>>26980342
source? your ass?
>>26980384
They haven't released it yet.
That's why it's a sample.
>>26980401
oh you meant a teaser then than a sample
>>26980361
The original claim in the previous thread was her being a major motivator for Ash, thus shifting the plot to her wouldn't be jarring. That's false on both accounts.
There is nothing hinting that at all. Serena isn't even referenced in Ash's plot outside those three self-contained moments. You've resorted to just making baseless assumptions "because other anime did it," despite this anime showing no indication of doing it.
I don't ship Ash with anyone, but whatever helps you sleep at night faggot. Besides your filthy pokemon daki.
>>26980396
Elaborate.
>>26979667
{Citation Needed}
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Why does Raichu always get the short end of the stick?
>>26980427
Serena actually is a motivator and there wouldn't even be a shift in the plot.
Those "self-contained moments" are actually built up when you recall how Ash's story goes from just the gyms to the league. It's only baseless because you call it as such. It happens in plenty of shounen anime between the love interest and the main character.
If you don't ship Ash with anyone, then you wouldn't be trying to on with another guy's post about Dawn doing the same with Ash when she actually didn't.
>>26980441
Raichu was fine in DP when Ash had it and that old lady with the bakery.
That was it.
>>26980445
Yes I know it happens in plenty of shonen, I'm saying there is no indication of it happening here. Unless they asspull a romance end, which is meaningless conjecture either way.
You seem to think that because you ship Serena with Ash for cheering him up, that I'm doing the same with Dawn. Stop projecting anytime. I'm not putting a romantic context on it.
The build up to Ash's struggle never involves Serena at all, and neither does his growth from it. Serena is only involved in that short depression window, and only resolves it by invoking Ash's own motivation. She is not a primary motivator, she is secondary at best, and she does not contribute to any growth that follows.
>>26980474
Your indication is every time it's occurred and either way it wouldn't be an asspull.
I never indicated shit of me shipping anything however you decided to bring up a completely unrelated statement that's even wrong in context.
>The fuck does it matter what Alexa says? Ash and Dawn got called a couple in DP, that doesn't make it canon. Again, Serena isn't the motivator, only Ash's own motivation.
The build up to Ash's struggle involves the depression window to in which leads to Ash growing. That happens in plenty of shounen and it happens here with these two. She's a primary motivator that contributes to Ash's growth.
>>26980474
The very fact that Ash needs her TO invoke his motivation means that she does contribute to the growth.
She is essentially the cushion that catches him when he falls, and reminds him to get his head out of his ass to go again in the first place, which is the role of practically every implied love interest in shonen.
I wonder how long he's going to be at it?
>>26980441
I need to rewatch that academy arc thing. It was good.
>>26980537
Meant to reply to
>>26980450
>>26980537
I always wonder about Piplup's identity crisis.
>>26980554
What's wrong with a guy that likes extravagant poses? Karate bugmen on motorcycles do them all the time, and no one bats an eye.
>>26980554
Piplup is just trying to Synchro.
>>26980570
Karate bugmen on motorcycles do them all the time, a penguin that one multiple occasions wears female cheerleader uniforms is a whole other ballpark.
Lillie will keepu the Satoshi!
>>26980593
Please don't ruin Lillie with shipping.
>>26980600
If Lillie is the SM companion I imagine the relationship wouldn't be shippy anyway. Of course that wouldn't stop the rabid shipfags
>>26980581
Yeah, cross dressing is weirdo guys in spandex territory.
>>26980312
The DP series has little to no major filler until about the last third of the series. Most episodes of DP are connected to each other or have a recurring rival or character showing up.
>>26980600
I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't turn into another Ash obsession like Serena. It was better when it was more like May or Dawn when they didn't have any intention to get into someone's pants.
>SATOSHI KEEPU!
>>26980372
>>26980384
poster of magearna movie
>>26980706
No. Lillie is not for Ash. Go away.
>>26980720
Lillie is for everyone to use.
>>26980730
kek he said Obsession not love.
>>26980710
too late bitch
>>26980776
Kindly reminder that Luna already won the companion bowl and Lillie a shit
>>26980730
No one's talking about your geekchic fanfic stale.
>doesn't even have a confirmed name
>winning
topu keko
>>26980730
>implying
>>26980706
>like May or Dawn when they didn't have any intention to get into someone's pants
>May
>>26980776
Fuck off.
>>26980810
>"Welcome back, you who I admire"
>not "Welcome back, you who I love."
Sounds like they're trying to weasel their way out of Serena's crush and make it just friends.
>>26980829
No, sounds more like you're trying to play off not being an autist and thinking you can't admire someone while loving them. No, Shota and Clemont weren't the same, you've been trying this all week.
>>26980730
t. Tierno making up shit again
>>26980824
I was talking about Ash, and no. she might have liked Drew but the series wasn't entirely focused on them. May was more focused on her performances.
>>26980711
You mean the annual satosere one?
>>26980845
Movie poster yeah. I don't know if "annual" works when they did two in one year.
>>26980845
No satosere poster this year
>>26980845
This year is only satopika
http://pokemon-matome.net/articles/112515.html
You could just not reply.
>>26980858
>>26980859
It's a teaser of the poster. You can see more to the poster above Ash's head.
>>26980806
Ta best you will get to be Bianca
>>26980858
>implying
That's not even the whole poster.
>>26980859
Second verse same as the first.
>>26980827
t. mad "Luna"fag
or are you using Mizuki today :^)
>>26980870
so your shitter is going to be an Iris and universally hated
>>26980851
Hype
>>26980879
Nah, she will be a qt
IRIS 2.0
HEHEHEHE
>>26980865
>>26980875
You can clearly see magearna there idiots it's not a satosere poster.
>>26980837
Nah, given she was talking to herself she could have easily said love, but didn't. Hmm.
>>26980895
More like Misty 2.0.
>>26980897
Anon, those two said that the Ash and Pikachu shot isn't the whole poster and the other Ash/Serena poster had Hoopa. Are you sure you're not the one being an idiot here?
>>26980905
Nah, you're just autistic.
>>26980920
Satosere posters as far as I can remember never had to point who Ash was. Those that usually do that end up being group shots.
>>26980879
Stop this artificial war. Who the fuck cares.
>>26980895
>>26980914
Nah she will be her own character
>>26980954
Lets just wait and see. She might not even appear.
>>26980922
He has literally been posting the same fucking bait several times for the past week. You know its bait but you still replied to it. Ask yourself, Who's the real autist here?
This goes for the rest of you too. Every thread he posts the same shitty bait and gets at least 3 or 4 replies. Just ignore it and stop shitting up the thread
>yfw Takeru's baggy eyes was because he was crying to himself on how he didn't make it to the league
>yfw Ash is the first person he showed his tears to
This League is too homo.
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>>26981054
>Ash not only broke his illusions but is also trying to protect his smile
>Guy actually smiles during Ash's declaration
Somebody stop this madman.
>>26981060
If only she wore her bangs down because unf.
>>26981042
He got a shit-ton of replies during the first part of this thread, too. Look how quickly it changed from whatever "discussion" they had there to Lillie/Chickenhead picdumping.
How accurate is this?
[/spoiler]Sorry for the quality
>>26981149
Go back to tumblr
>>26981149
Not very.
Does anyone have the QUALITY Dedenne collage? It's been a while since i saw it.
I bet you guys are excited to see Serena mending Ash's shirts.
>>26981174
More excited about Ash's temporary outfit it looks really good.
>>26981197
I want to see the front before deciding, but yeah it looks good.
If we're actually going to see him shirtless that's a real bonus.
>>26981203
>he manages to wear a different outfit with the Volcanion belt on
>>26981203
Why do you think we'll see him shirtless?
>>26981218
Maybe he loses it but it comes on again later?
Hey look, it's Kiki. This is from the Princess Festival episode, right as the beauty contest starts.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>26981273
Anime seems to have a fondness for referencing magical girls.
Madoka when?
>>26981321
they reference superior magical girls, not shitty Kamen Rider Ryuki ripoff
>>26981330
>ryuki
what do you think of Korean Satoshi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S0rHTaav-s
Are we going to see the princess see shirtless Ash?
>>26981421
According to Terufuu, yes
>>26981433
Who is terufuu?
>>26979621
Cute.
>>26981421
Where is all this shirtless talk coming from?
>>26981459
meme
>>26981481
Serena discovered 4chan.
>>26981514
I want to see Serena in more outfits like in this picture, shame there's no more tripokalon episodes.
She was my sunshine
My only sunshine
She made me happy
When skies were gray
She never knew just
How much I loved her
Because they took my sunshine away
What's wrong with me, /padt/? Why do I genuinely feel sad whenever I think about her knowing I'll never see her again?
>>26981545
Who is that?
>Final round
>Ash v Alain
>Greninja versus Charizard
>Greninja gets the upper hand
>Gets ready to throw the final water shuriken
>ASH IS GONNA WIN HOLY SHIIIIITTTTTT
>BOOM
>Team Flare crashes the party
>They team up to save the world
>Tournament canceled
>No winner declared
>Both get to challenge Diantha, both lose
>They have a friendly 1v1 rematch after the fact where Ash wins, giving the audience one last fuck you
>Serena leaves without confessing
>1 week later, Pikachu loses in a battle against Litten
>>26981562
Don't do this to us anon
>>26981562
A terrorist attack? I don't think so
>>26981562
>1 week later, Pikachu loses in a battle against Litten
FUCK
YOUUUUUUU
>>26981556
No name background girl #72
>>26981562
The bad end we always get after every season, can be different this time?
>>26981562
>implying there won't be another Ash vs Alan during TF arc
>implying Alan will do jack shit after Ash brings him back to the light
>implying Alan won't immediately leave after TF is over to travel the world with Manon
>>26981562
don't even joke with that
>>26981562
In my heart, I know this is probably what's going to happen. There's no way Serena confesses, becauses how the fuck would Ash even respond? And there's no way Ash wins, but I don't think they'll have Alain win outright either. And then comes Pikachu losing 98 levels again.
>>26981620
This is the future you chose, anon.
This is one anime that has never, ever had a happy ending.
>>26981562
so, medabots?
>>26981668
>>26981686
I miss him..
>>26981481
We speculate that it will happen which is why Ash changes outfits.
It may get shredded or damaged.
>>26981807
I wonder why is Serena with Ash shirt again, looks lewd.
>>26981823
She must be mending it, and Ash must have given it to her while shirtless.
>>26980509
I literally said that DOESN'T make it canon you retarded faggot. What part of that implies shipping? You could not project any harder.
>I never indicated shit of me shipping
>Your indication is every time it's occured
Top kek
>>26980516
She is not "the" cushion, she is a cushion perhaps. His Pokemon have saved him far more than she has. Her contribution is trivial because it's completely meaningless without all his primary motivators, which actually lead to his growth. Something that merely reminds him of his primary motivators, and that is LITERALLY all she does, is a secondary motivator at best. Certainly not a main one, especially when she does it so sparsely.
>>26981758
Pancham would make a terrible Cure Mermaid.
>>26981884
Did he take it off in front of her?
>>26981800
20 years is much too long a time.
>>26981890
If he takes it off will he die?
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