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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>New trailer for upcoming events, now in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeyVL5FCCM8

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! [Jun 30th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]
>Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special [Jul 14th]
>XY&Z034: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! [Jul 21st]
>XY&Z035: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile [Jul 28th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26903332
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DP68 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_537_DP068_Tobari_Gym!_Lucario_VS_Buoysel!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][45B4C903].mkv.torrent

XY&Z28 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_028_The_Winding_Woods..._The_Dawn_of_Evolution![H264_720P][1D9848FB].mkv.torrent

XY&Z29 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=817145

XY&Z30 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=819172

XY&Z31 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=821168

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z32: THE KALOS LEAGUE BEGINS! MEGA LIZARDON SHOWDOWN: X VS Y!! (JUNE 30TH)
>The Kalos League finally begins! Even Satoshi is as excited as can be when faced with all these tough Trainers! And then the first match of the Kalos League begins! Those picked to go up against each other are Alan and Trova!!

>Summary:
>The Kalos League has finally arrived! Everyone participating in the league are strong Trainers that have gathered 8 badges! And among them are Trainers Satoshi has met before, like Shota, Tierno and Trova. Satoshi is as excited as can be right from the get-go. But then a Trainer challenges him to a battle immediately after spotting him!?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Anri Katsu: Tierno
>Minami Fujii: Trova
>Fumiko Orikasa: Carne
>Akeno Watanabe: Pachira
>Tasuku Hatanaka: Takeru
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Tomo
>Kensuke Sato: Announcer
>Tsuguo Mogami: Referee
>Kenta Miyake: Ptera
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 39 (July 3rd)

XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! (Jul 7th)
>Fierce fights happen one after another in the Kalos League. Shota and Tierno go up against each other over a place in the semifinals. Shota has also made a personal analysis of Tierno, who specializes in a rhythm strategy that uses dancing to stay in sync with his Pokémon, and makes full use of it as he goes up against him. Both of them fight furiously with neither giving an inch, and the battle eventually comes down to the last Pokémon on each side. But then Ash and his friends spot something... but what?

Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special (Jul 14th)
>The grand "Legend VS Legend" battle airs for the first time anywhere!
>The 2015 blockbuster The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa & Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians
>Also features a SMASHING world premiere showcase of footage from this year's Pokémon movie, Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna!
>The Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special airs Thursday July 14th at 6pm

XY&Z034: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! (Jul 21st)
>Having won his way through the Kalos League thus fur, Shota goes up against Ash, the person he admires!

XY&Z035: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile (Jul 28th)
>This high level battle between two Trainers that know each other like the back of their own hand finally approaches its conclusion!!

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

KIRAKIRA (BY CITRON, CV YUKI KAJI):
http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/IWEafb12/file.html

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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Serena discussion
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>>26907390
Amour discussion
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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>>26907398
yes
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>>26907390
>>26907398
>>26907418
When?
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>we will never see sparkling shojo Ash after this series.
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6 HOURS LEFT
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Best ship
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>>26907501

It's been more than 10 years since AG ended and contestshippers are still assblasted about advanceshipping. Is it autism?
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>>26907501
cute ship.
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>>26907344
episode 29 when famalams?
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>>26907517
You mean the ones on tumblr? That's only because they're Pokeshippers too.
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>>26907517
What?
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10 years ago this was the canon ship for the main girl.

10 years later the canon ship for the main girl is with Ash.
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>>26907559

Man, if there is one pairing I'll never forgive tumblr for blowing out of proportion is Ikarishipping. Fuck every single of them.
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Bonnie is for Puni-chan
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>>26907568

>canon

Off yourself.
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>>26907573
The fuck is that?
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The most hyped league in the anime is about to go down and you shits keep talking about retarded shipping that'll never come true.
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>>26907588
Ash and Iris IIRC
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>>26907586
It's true, though. Those are the only pairings that have actually existed in the show itself and not just in random faggots' heads.

Well those and Alan x Manon, sort of
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>>26907568
May x Drew = implied mutual, but not ever confirmed

Ash x Serena = One-sided canon
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>>26907501
> BTFO by Contest
> Still better than Amour
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>>26907597
People supported that?
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>>26907588

Paul/Dawn. But it's basically just pokeshippers who don't want any girl who isn't Misty near Ash,
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>>26907593
It's almost as if most of the posts in this thread are shitposts.
How many of them did you make?
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>>26907593
Free speech
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>>26907607
Inb4 some Amourfag starts posting screengrabs for m-muh mutual
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I want to see my boy Greninja finally making Ash champion. Should I start from XY or can I start watching from XY&Z?
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When do you think ash will sync with Infernape?
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>end of last thread was civil and nice
>this entire thread is 90% shitposting
Page 1 sucks.
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>>26907573
Ikarishipping was the DP version of Geekchic. Basically a ship invented by Pokeshippers to keep the current main girl away from Ash.

Paul and Dawn barely interact in DP, yet the Pokeshippers shipped them. Serena and Clemont barely interact in XY...yet the Pokeshippers ship them.

What I don't get is why the Pokeshippers didn't ship Dawn with Zoey. Appealshipping at least has a basis, and it keeps Dawn away from Ash. Very strange they chose Paul instead.
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>>26907643

Read summaries at Bulbapedo.
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>>26907621
> Implying Amourshippers haven't become this generation's Pokeshippers

Wait till when they start ship teasing Alola and Ash.
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>>26907649
Is it a cycle?
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Is the liege going to be split into episodes or aired all at once. I haven't seen pokemon in a decade
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>>26907658
Amourshippers can't be that by virtue of Amour at least has been teased in canon whereas Pokeshipper exists solely on dub implications.
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>>26907486
>Best Charizard is finally going to appear only to job to the Edge Master
That nigger Ash better get a Charizardite Y once he gets to Alola
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>>26907664
Nearly every single time we make a new thread, a surge of random shitposters flood in and fag it up for an hour or so.
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>>26907653

The same thing happened in BW with Iris/Dent, when the pokeshippers suddenly found a million reasons why this pairing made sense.
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>>26907665
it's split m8

watch XY it's gr8 m8
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>>26907665
Come on, anon, it's in the OP:
>Next episode:
>XY&Z032: The Kalos League Begins! Mega Charizard Showdown: X VS Y!! [Jun 30th]
>http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

>Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z033: Mega Sceptile VS Raichu! I Received Some EXP!! [Jul 7th]
>Pokémon the movie XY&Z Premiere Commemorative "The Archdjinni of Rings: Hoopa"/"Pikachu and the Pokémon Musicians" Fierce! Startling!! 2 Hour Pokémon Movie Special [Jul 14th]
>XY&Z034: Semifinal Full Battle! Ash VS Shota!! [Jul 21st]
>XY&Z035: Fierce Rival Battle! Ash Greninja VS Mega Sceptile [Jul 28th]
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>>26907574
DELETE WOLOLOLO THIS
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>>26907684
Most of the hints were in the original dumbass.
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>>26907699
>Mega Sceptile VS Raichu
is he finally going to evolve pickachu?
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>>26907715
no it wasn't, try watching it in the original

the closest was in the second movie, but even then "lol movies"
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>>26907643
XY.

Have the pasta:

This episode is largely agreed to be the best jump-on point.
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/%5BPM%5DPocket_Monsters_Best_Wishes_Season_2_Decolora_Adventure_20_My_Dream_-_Pokemon_Master!%5BH264_720P%5D%5B25F857B9%5D.mkv.torrent

It sets up the XY arc and XY episode 1 assumes you've seen it, so it's a better place to start than that.

Also, here's the viewing order pasta from /vp/

http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

Airing/viewing order:
Best Wishes Decolora Adventure 20 (not XY, but it's recommended you watch this first, since XY1 has a lot of callbacks to dialogue from it)
XY0
XY1-11
Complete Overview! Pocket Monsters XY Special!!
XY12-21
Best Wishes Season 2 Decolora Adventure Special - Iris VS Ibuki! The Road to Dragon Master!!
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act I
XY22-35
Movie 17 Guide
Movie 17 Premiere Special with TV Special
XY Movie 1 Short
XY Movie 1
XY36-49
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act II
XY50-54
New Year's Eve 2014 Super Mega Special
XY55-64
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act III
XY65-78
Movie 18 OVA
XY79-81
Movie 18 Appear! Special
XY Movie 2 Short
XY Movie 2
XY82-93
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV
XY&Z1-9
XY&Z Complete Overview Special
XY&Z10-31

The six Hoopa's Appear! Operations specials aired alongside XY69-74
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>>26907715
Most of Pokeshipping moments are during Orange Islands.

Kanto barely has anything besides a few moments, and Johto is devoid of shipping altogether up until Misty's last episode.
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>>26907643
use this >>26907732 but remove shit like overviews, "movie guide", "movie special", and "six hoopa operations" crap
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>>26907722
It's Tierno's Raichu.
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>>26907684
It's sad that Pokeshipping had additional dub hints and never was as explicit, yet still felt more mutual than Amourshipping.
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What do you all think Ash does with his other Pokedex? Do you think somewhere in his room is a box full of advanced technological devices that he never uses anymore?
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>>26907722
it's Tierno's
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>>26907740
Fuck you, the Appear Operations are the shit.
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>>26907755
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>>26907757
he gives them to Oak so he can create a Super Pokedex
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>>26907722
Why don't you try watching XY first? Maybe you'll find the answer there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHkx9P19hg

help
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>>26907783
Oh right, they're doing that again.
Pokenchi needs to go there and report.
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>>26907728
I did watch the original. At least they tried to make it seem like 2 kids who slowly fall for each other and then ramped it up in Orange Islands. I don't know what the fuck they are doing with Amourshipping other than Serena lusting after Ash yet being too beta to do anything about it.
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>>26907686
They also mostly disappear the moment we reach bump limit. Take that as you will.
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>>26907794
Serena's crush on Ash is actually very realistic for young teenage girls.
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>>26907794
You sound like if pokeshipping was one of the focus points in OS.
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>>26907800
>white girl going for the non-white guy
A little TOO realistic
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>>26907684
Amourshippers have an entitlement complex because their girl is confirmed to like Ash even though half a dozen other chicks had obvious implied crushes on him before. Wait till the outrage when she'll get the Misty goodbye treatment and then they start ship teasing Ash and Alola.
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>>26907837
>he thinks implication == outright stated
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So I was rewatching some XY&Z fights because hype and I noticed that after using Water Shuriken in KYODAI MIZU SHURIKEN MODO the Water Shuriken tattoo reappears then fades when the shuriken finishes forming.
What if this is how it forms the water sword/sickles in the future or what if the tattoos can change colour and that's how it does the 『The Last - Orenji Odama Mizu Shuriken』in the league?
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>>26907715
>This is what Pokeshippers actually believe.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
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>>26907900
Yeah he gains a tattoo there
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>>26907831
To make it worse, she's French and he's Japanese. And we know them Frenchies are massive weebs.
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>yfw in the SM anime for the 20th anniversary the Metapod Ninja kid comes back
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Can you watch this live anywhere?
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>>26907800
What is the point? Better be unrealistic if it meant it would go somewhere.

>>26907828

Not as much in Kanto, but a subplot in Orange Islands. It disappeared in Johto because they planned on not ending the show.
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so I'm guessing she's being retired since her seiyuu died recently
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>>26907930
yes, but ask again in 5 or so hours
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>>26907926
Only if Giselle comes back.
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>>26907639
What is this, people not knowing what story development is?
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so... what post to filter to hide all the chain posts?
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>>26907904
> Amourfags in denial their ship isn't anything special

I will feel bad for you when Ash dumps her aside without a thought.
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>>26907837
>Wait till the outrage when she'll get the Misty goodbye treatment
That wasn't even very shippy in the original. The dub made it shippy when the original was more about her doing things as a trainer even though she didn't even do much.
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>>26907971
this seems to be the source >26907501
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>>26907959
desu I'd like them to bring back/reference some OS characters for the 20th

maybe we might even see the return of Pidgeot or Butterfree, who the hell knows
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>>26907996
Well, Butterfree is dead but Pidgeot is totally still out there to bring back.
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>>26907715
>Most of the hints were in the original dumbass.
They really weren't.

Most of them were in OI but even those weren't that many. Kanto was pretty much untouched and Jhoto was pretty much devoid of it until Macey and Misty's last episode which wasn't even heavy in the original as they made it with the dub.
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>>26908011
Butterfree is only as dead as Amour.
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>>26908011
>believing the "butterfree mating will kill it meme"
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>>26907981
Same result. Emotional goodbye, and that's the death of Amourshipping. Don't be surprised if her Gen 7 cameo has her having gotten over him.
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>>26908035
>yfw her Gen 7 cameo has her as Tierno's girlfriend
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>>26908026
and he's getting a lot of pussy just like Ash

>>26908035
>Don't be surprised if her Gen 7 cameo has her having gotten over him
I'm curious if you're trying to relate Ash's history with women to yours

who hurt you my friend

do you want to talk about it?
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>>26908035
Misty's good bye wasn't even an emotional good bye from Misty. It was a Brock and Misty thing in the original.
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>>26907643

Only watch 1-10, then captures, gyms, evolutions and move-learning episodes. Gyms includes any episodes involving a gym leader, for buildup. Skip the rest, trust me.

Also watch mega specials.
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>>26908035
>Don't be surprised if her Gen 7 cameo has her having gotten over him.

>he thinks Serena was the same as Misty
You were watching the dub, weren't you?
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>>26908053
It wasn't who hurt me, friend. It was who I hurt. That's how I know how all of this will end.
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>>26908062
And Tripokalon episodes. If you're not going to watch the waifus you might as well not bother watching any of it.
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>>26908026
Latter sure hasn't being dying or dead.
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>>26908062
>shitposting this hard
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Essentia, flare scientists and cyborg ninjas when?
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>>26908076
Exactly
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>>26908071
did you reverse cuck

have I seen you on Jerry Springer or Maury or something

>>26908076
that's the joke
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>>26908071
No, seriously, who hurt you?
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Whether you like the Ash/Serena pairing or not, it's the most canon ship in the series (one-sided) of course. In that it's pushed within the anime a great deal, and outside (magazines, tv variety shows, posters). No other ship has come close among the main characters.
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>>26908095
>one-sided
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>>26908095
It's still entirely irrelevant to me. All I care about is Eureka's cuteness, Ash/Citron's broship, competent Ash, his decent team and meme frog.
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>>26908095
>one-sided
>insinuating it hasn't received development at all
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>>26907643

Beginning.

Skip the following: 14, 16, 18, 22, 23, 27, 29, 37, 45, 46, 49, 68, 71, 72, 78, 79, 81, 83, 84, 85, Z2, Z3, Z4, Z11, Z15, Z18, Z24, Z31.
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>>26908100
>>26908151

>delusional self-insert shippers

not even once
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>>26908084
>yfw Team Flare takes the data of Ash Greninja and tries making an army of cybernetic Greninja before Greninja goes full limit breaker on them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtUQ5taHxiY
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>>26908134
So? Seriously, Who cares about you?
People likes this shit and the writers deliver
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>>26908164
>Who cares about you?
damn harsh blow kek'd though
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>>26908152
>skipping all those good episodes
Nope
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Find a flaw.
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>>26908159
>delusional self-insert
That's >>26908071 broseph.
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>>26908174
>can't know if it's a boy or a girl
Perfect.
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>BW set the bar so low we thought XY would go to shit right after the first filler
>XY stays based
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>>26908164
I am objectively superior to every shipdrone combined.
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>>26908164

>the writers deliver

No they fucking don't, that's the problem. I shipped SatoSere until I realized it was going fucking nowhere. Even for a kid's show it's unsatisfying.
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>>26908198
>No they fucking don't, that's the problem.
>they actually do deliver
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>>26908188
they fired worst director so yeet

>>26908190
is there anyone IRL who cares about you anon

have you considered Tindr or maybe even Grindr if you swing that way
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>>26907959
Where is that image from?
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I bet the japs love everyone getting behind their gook + white girl ship.
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>>26908215
Gelbooru, Paheal and the like.
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>>26908198
>they don't deliver
>it doesn't go anywhere
>episodes smack you in the face that do both but "LOL NOPE NOTHING HAPPENS"
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>>26908174
No eggpet
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>>26908174
It's like Minami Touma accidentally wound up in pokemon. Perfect.
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>>26908211
I like how you're now plastering yourself onto me. Really pathetic.
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>>26908198
Except they fucking do.
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>>26908210

>no actually they do

Wow you sure showed me.

I too am fucking enthralled with Serena not even trying to be more forward with her feelings, Ash not reciprocating in the slightest and the two of them having the most distant relationship since Dawn and Brock.
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>>26908236
Dude, he's a shitposter. Stop cooperating with him.
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>>26907722
Retard
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>>26908241
>not Ayaka from eggpets
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reminder that the hide post button exists for a reason

>inb4 m-muh opinions
>inb4 freedom of speech

no just hide if you reply you're turning them on
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>>26908253
That's either him or another shitposter
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>>26908260
Censor that shit faggot.
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>>26908253

>cooperating
>amourfags in charge of using words right
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>>26908264
can't stop won't stop
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>>26908256
Where's her mandatory ball?
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>>26908285
>>26908174
Fuck, that HAS to be intentional
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So no Satoshi vs Ayaka?
A little disappointed to be honest...
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Im going to be honest, /vp/...

Ash isn't going to win the finals. He's going to lose. It'll probably be Frogman or Pikachu against the dudes last Poke.

They'll hit a move at the same time. Both will buckle. Then Pikachu/Frogman will fall and Ash will lose.

Serena will realize that she has to grow on her own or some dumb shit and will give up on da Ash. Ash will filler arc, then travel to Alola for something and boom, reboot as usual.

It's going to happen, you all know it and your deluding yourselves.
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>>26908285
that reminds me of another anime reference Pokemon made with pic related
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>>26908290
>>26908285
They're sisters.

This is Tachiko Otsuki.

Sister of Ayaka Otsuki, Tachiko is a performer in the Kalos Tripokalon circuit with her partner, Furret. She can be very laid back, much to the chagrin of her companions.

She enjoys nothing more than kicking back on a Sunday afternoon and playing with Furret. To her, Tripokalons are something fun and are not supposed to be hard work. Because of this attitude she didn't get far and eventually returned home to Tama Hills.
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Serena's love just keeps getting stronger and Ash is still feeling the same as the day he met her. That's not progression. The only thing Ash has progressed with is his team (mainly Greninja). By now he probably thinks more of Greninja than Serena. He even used Serena as a stepping stone to fix his bond with Greninja.

I'm starting to think these threads have never watched anything else outside of Pokemon and have never seen how actual love progression works. Ash is still dumb as a door about Serena's feelings and he's about to take on the league.
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>>26908314
I wonder if the poke-world has magical girl anime.
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>>26908328
Pokemon is a magical L·O·V·E·L·Y boy anime
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>>26907501
No, Pokeshipping will always be best ship.
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>>26908340
Fuck of Serena.
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>>26908343
try me bitch
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>>26908307
>last dude is stated to have always won before
>Serena giving up on Ash
That's not how it works.
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>>26908356
You do know who you're replying to, right?

Faggot.
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>>26908321
This is clearly bait, but I'll bite:
>Serena's love just keeps getting stronger and Ash is still feeling the same as the day he met her. That's not progression.
You describe progression then you talk about no progression. Ash fixed his shit with Greninja but Serena clearly wasn't just a stepping stone.

>I'm starting to think these threads have never watched anything else outside of Pokemon and have never seen how actual love progression works. Ash is still dumb as a door about Serena's feelings and he's about to take on the league.
All you're doing is saying you haven't watched anything else if you think there's only one way of progression and him not knowing how Serena feels about him is the same as him doing that say she's grown on him.
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>>26908321

>I'm starting to think these threads have never watched anything else outside of Pokemon

Careful, they'll accuse you of the same thing, because "no u" is so much easier than forming your own argument.

Also I'd like to say that Ash's relationship with Greninja feels rather forced and arbitrary. He didn't really bond with him anymore than his other mons, it was just suddenly stated that "their bond is super special" for plot convenience. A bad case of tell, not show.

Ash rescued Charmander, but then didn't train properly to keep up with him. Charizard outgrew him and Ash had to earn back his respect.
He saved Chimchar and had to deal with his pent up rage from a life of abuse, learning to channel it into victory, and it combined seamlessly with his ability.
Both of these really illustrate a relationship strengthened through conflict and hardship. I find it hard to believe he has a stronger bond with Greninja. It just feels artificial.

I suppose Sceptile is comparable in that they just got along naturally for the most part, but on the flipside Sceptile didn't get a special snowflake power.
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>>26908384
>This is clearly bait, but I'll bite:
You're doing such a bad job hiding the fact that you're shitposting that you don't really need to include that line.
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>>26908315
>what da fug?
-spurdo
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>>26908393
I know he's shitposting, I know replying to him is just continuing the shitposting chain, and I'm still biting the bait.
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>>26907728
>>26907738
>>26907904
Looks like some people need to rewatch the first season again. There were several pokeshipping hints, and it was made even more obvious during the second season (Ash even shows jealousy whenever a guy expressed interest in Misty).
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>>26908410
He's not shitposting as hard as you. Go drink bleach.
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>>26908411
>tumblr
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4 more hours.
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>>26908427
We will probably need a new thread by then: shitposters don't stop until we reach bump limit.
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>>26908384
There is literally no way they could make it work if she confessed, because Ash hasn't thought about it at all. Let alone the fact that it's not in his character to, he's set on his goal to win the league and Greninja is highly overshadowing Serena because of that. The most positive answer Ash could give to her is "I'll think about it". Unless something massive happens throughout the league between them Serena is fucked.
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So Ash doesn't even have a sixth Pokemon? Unless he goes back and gets Goodra for a while?
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what post to hide again to remove the chain?
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Cant believe people is saying ash doesnt like serena because he likes greninja, like they are completely different relationships what the fuck is this
Like, stop the memes if you want to actually discuss
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>>26908422

if Ash had a scene like >>26908411 with Serena you would be losing your shit, calling it indisputable proof of a canon mutual ship.

don't even try to deny it.
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>>26908460
The one at 00:17:12
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>>26908462

He likes Serena as a friend.

Not as much as his other friends though.
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>>26908440
>There is literally no way they could make it work if she confessed
Broseph.
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>>26908462
Because his love for Pokemon is stronger than his love for humans.
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>>26908467
Next you're going to tell us about the totally canon "daughter" in the first movie, right?
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>>26908480
I'm sure its come up again and again. but whats with the fingerless gloves? He isn't riding anyone's bike often enough to need them for that... so whats the point?
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>>26908494

no, i'm just mocking your hypocrisy. i don't ship ash with anyone.
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>>26908499
They look good on him?
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>>26908499
Fingerless gloves work for gripping things better while leaving your fingers available for better grip. You know how Ash grabs on to stuff all the time.
It doesn't actually get brought up a lot.
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>>26908503
And?
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>>26908516

and you're a hypocrite. i thought i explained that.
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>>26908478
Opposite day was six months ago.
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>>26908467
>calling it indisputable proof of a canon mutual ship

What, you just go to tumblr and try to find something called proof when even if Ash did that it wouldn't be proof because of context?
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>>26908440
>There is literally no way they could make it work if she confessed, because Ash hasn't thought about it at all
>make it work
You mean, see them in a relationship? it would never work.
But Endgame it would be a totally viable option.


I need to see ash reaction to the concept of "love and relationship" serena speaking.
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>>26908480

I love how this scene didn't change their relationship at all. Ash is still completely oblivious and Serena is no more forward with her feelings.

Anon is right, it wouldn't work and would feel completely forced. Then again lots of things are this season so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>26908491
That's for everyone that has Pokemon.
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>>26908534

Serena being in it is all the proof i need!
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>>26908523
So?
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>>26908544
>lots of things are
I'd like to know what you think are forced in this season.
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>>26908544
I love how you pretend nothing happened just to shit post.
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Well, I guess it's that time of the night.

I'm off to sleep.
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>>26908567
Ash/Serena
Greninja
Competent Ash

I think that's all his bases.
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>>26908567
You know what he'll say: Serena's feelings, Tripokalons, Greninja, Ash being strong, Shota, >muh personalities, etc.

He's been saying it for days.
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>>26908589
>days
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>>26908602
He just started his Greninja and Shota bashing like two weeks ago.
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>>26908544
True, if they do somehow get together it'll be
>Ash I love you teehee
>wow Serena I loved you all along even though I never acted any different to the previous series haha lol lets get married but only if you don't mind taking Oaks dick instead of mine while I'm in Alola
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>>26908635
>even though I never acted any different to the previous series
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Welcome to the Poke Girl thread, hi to everyone.

Please don't talk about the pokemon anime. Only about ugly girls.
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Why are there actual dedicated amourfags? If you think the series is going to change from the standard formula of nearly 20 years now you have a mental disorder. Greninja is going to be left at ninja village and ash is gonna figure out alola exists and kick serena out of the boat. It's painful to see honestly
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>>26908649
You can't expect him to know how to write in English.
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Shit I don't even have time to sleep do I?
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>>26908752
less than 4 hrs
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>>26908686
Are you possessed by Shudo's butthurt ghost or something?
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Can't you guys just discuss about the Anime normally?.
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>>26908422
What a fantastic rebuttal!
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>>26908752
>not knowing how to get a good rest from a three-hour sleep
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Can't we have a work of mainstream fiction that fully follows the original creator's intentions instead of being ruined by modernisations and new, inferior writers?
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>>26908411
You apparently. >>26907738
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>>26908760
If you check in the archives for the last weekend threads, you'll see how different they are from this particular thread.

Guess who make the difference.
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>anime director: Hey, this is Pokemon XY, the anime. Looks great, right?
>other anime guy: Yes, it look promising. Now how about w-
>anime director: Now WATCH THIS
>other anime guy: W-What are you do-

----*-MINDLESS ROMANCE-*-----

>other anime guy: What the fuck have you done!?
>anime director: The female lead's entire character is about being in-love with Satoshi.
>other anime guy: But why? It was perfect before.
>anime director: NO QUESTIONS
>other anime guy: You've completely fucked it. Are they at least going to get together in the end?
>anime director: No!
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>>26908783
Nothing actually follows what Tajiri envisioned. Not even Special.
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Please estimate the percent chance of the following events happening:
>Pikachu not getting cucked again
>The league getting interrupted by Zygarde plot
>Ash winning the league
>Serena winning the Ash
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>>26908783
>Tajiri cares about the anime
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>>26908823
How about we don't pull numbers out the ass and say we did?
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>>26908589

No, Serena's feelings are genuine.
Ash being strong is a natural progression from DP, though he could stand to be sillier.
Tripokalons are forced because they only exist for Serena to do something. They're not interesting, they don't tie into the main narrative at all, they don't flesh out her relationship with Ash, and it's still not clear why she arbitrarily decided to do this of all things and was of course the bestest ever at it. It feels completely artificial. Yes it's forced when the episodes just exist to give a character purpose, rather than the plot having purpose for them.
And I explained Synchro being forced here >>26908386. It could have been handled much better if it was built up from the beginning, and at least had an adequate explanation, which it still lacks.
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>>26908823
>1
>50
>0
>0
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>>26908823
15% Memefrog is going to be used every battle.
80%
5% Ash will probably be winning against Alan until Team Flare shows up
0% Logic
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>>26908810
What is this, Pokeshipper Rage Simulator, BWfag Rage Simulator or you pretending to be Shudo and doing his asshurt impression?
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>>26908842
Kind of funny how that last doesn't actually follow logic.
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xy is full of wasted potential
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>>26908929
I don't know, people say X/Y is full of wasted potential but some stuff from S/M's been pointing to continuing where X/Y and OR/AS left off.
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>>26908929
Same for BW...
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>>26908832
Bu that logic, none of the past or present characters' plots and objectives, other than Ash's, are worthy because they don't tie into the main narrative which still is Ash's road to becoming a master. The rest of your argument are purely subjective appreciations of Tripokalons, some of which I agree with too, but don't try to pass them as anything more than opinions.

As for Greninja, it has already been discussed to death: his super form isn't triggered because he has a greater bond with Ash than Pikachu or any other of his mons; it is because he has a bond with Ash, not necessarily greater or weaker than other bonds, but most importantly: he has the ability to go synchro. The bond is more like a key to have access to it.
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>>26908929
>Serena ruined by shit writing and the haircut.
>G00dra being removed.
>Shota suddenly getting very good out of nowhere.
>Bonnie taking screentime which should be used on Serena.
It feels like the League will be BW tier like this.
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Do you think Ash will catch one of these in Alola?
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>>26908832
Tripokalons are essentially pokemon+trainer pageants. Serena is a fan of both fashion and showing off, however subtly. She also isn't the bestest ever at it, seeing how hard she lost and how a noted veteran stated that her performances, while cute and fun, were still extremely lacking. It may not have served a purpose for the main narrative, but it did for Serena's in that she gained more confidence and an actual goal to strive for. It also gives her something else to pursue besides Ash.
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>>26908999
The irony of his supposed complaint is that Serena's actually been the one that's affected Ash the most as a character and she's the one who's also been tied to him the most.
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>>26908823
>I dunno if "cucked" is the word I'd use. Greninja's obviously gonna take a lot of the spotlight. He won't obviously get as much attention as the frog. So I don't know what number to give this.
>I personally feel like this won't happen, it'd be a bit TOO unconventional. If anything the Team Flare shit will interrupt Ash's battles in the Champion League. I'd say like a 40% chance.
>Olympia literally said that Ash and the frog would climb to new heights of greatness that no one has ever seen before. Have we ever considered that's not just the transformation itself, but the possibility of Ash becoming champion of Kalos? In my opinion he'll at least win the league. Champion League would be iffy but I'd say he has an 85% chance of winning the league.
>I think that him winning the Serena will directly correlate with him becoming the champion of Kalos. From a writer's standpoint, Serena's obviously staying in Kalos after XY&Z, so the only reason they'd have Ash and Serena enter a relationship is if they needed to write Ash off and have him stay in Kalos. So I'll give it like a 20% chance.
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>>26909034
No because it's fake you dense motherfucker.
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>>26909163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZ6-IA0C4s
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>>26909163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZ6-IA0C4s
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>>26909181
>>26909188
>that blurred RP
>russian
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>>26909028
>shit writing and the haircut
Opinions. Some people actually like the haircut, you know?
>Goodra
It would've made the rest of the series battles trivially easy by that point, other mons needed the levels.
>Shota
He had ample off-screen time to actually train. Seeing as he has no companions to go on sidequests and detours for, that means most of his time was spent training and studying.
>Bonnie
Because God forbid the anime expand on a character that's barely in the games at all. Besides, you should be complaining about Clemont getting shafted, though he's actually completely useless in the group now.
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>>26909181
>trainer just pops in at 0:16
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>>26908842
>Ash will probably be winning against Alan until Team Flare shows up
I thought so too. Literally not previewing Alan battling Ash like shota, already says that they are hiding him for the next preview when their fight may get cancelled.
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>>26909109
Because, oh no! Ash can't possibly bond with both humans and pokemon, it has to be one or the other!
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>>26909188
>Russian channel
>blurred RP
>trainer not visible during the idle animation of Rowlett and "Vikavolt"
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>>26909259
More like Serena fucked and shattered everything they knew about Pokemon for the better.
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>>26909109

Which still amounts to "barely."

Ash has only had real conflicts twice in this series, once in the first gym and once in the last. Then Serena says "be urself" and WOW ITS FIXED 10/10 WRITING

>>26909036

She blew everyone the fuck out as an amateur who just heard about it, even exceling at things that were out of character like Pokemon trivia.

>>26908999

Brock's pursuits lead to great knowledge of Pokemon, and that knowledge directly ties into Ash's growth as a trainer. Clemont is similar except that he informs the group moreso than Ash, since Ash is already high level. His inventions at least advance the plot, sometimes.

Greninja's form being genetic makes it just as forced, if not more so. Just means that Ash won the lottery with a super special ubermensch mon. Pikachu's strength was enhanced against Brock. Infernape's Blaze is enhanced by its anger and life experiences. Charizard forced itself to evolve because it wanted to compete with the strongest mons. All of these entail power through struggle and force of will, not genetic predisposition. It cheapens the whole thing.
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>>26909241
You know, I would actually be ok with this. Even moreso, if they do it when the last mons standing are Greninja and Charizard, and just as they're about to go Synchro and Mega, respectively.

Then we get an 1v1 Ash-Greninja vs Mega Charizard at TF arc, for full pottery.
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>>26909265
You actually have to be a special type of autistic contrarian to think it's not real.
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>>26908760
Oh. It's just a robot. I was gonna question why Serena was wearning a monitor on her head.

Heh heh.
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GIVE CLEMONT VIKAVOLT

GIVE CLEMONT VIKAVOLT

GIVE CLEMONT VIKAVOLT
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One of the new pokemon is literally a fat Pachirsu. WTF.
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your new nenene
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>>26909390
Just like Roothoot.
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>>26909326
Ash impressed an extremely picky Froakie into choosing him as it's trainer. Besides, it's not like Greninja suddenly unlocked it's full powers in one day. He and Ash had to go through multiple stages and hoops before they could even trigger it manually, including fighting multiple strong pokemon, like a champion's Mega ace.
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>bringing leak cancer in this thread
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>>26909443
Why is Gamefreak so retarded that they think they have to rehash Pikachu's design into a new pokemon every gen?

A fat Pachirisu is all they could come up with?
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>>26908793
Indigo has more than just a few moments; there were several hints that showed Misty's obvious crush on Ash and he also had his fair share. Orangeshipping was the season with the most hints, absolutely. There were barely any hints in Johto, but there were a couple like in "The Heartbreak of Brock".
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>>26909326
He's rarely even had conflicts in general. Whenever he did, it was the Pokemon that got him out of it pretty much all the time.
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>>26909611
The one in "Heartbreak of Brock" was dub added. Misty doesn't say she and Ash will be married in the original.
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>>26909611
>making a supposed argument using the dub
Back to tumblr with you.
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3 hours lads
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>>26909326
>10/10 WRITING
For a Anime commercial aimed at children, it's as good as you will get considering Ash's experience.

Brock's knowledge might had been relevant to Ash's development until mid-Johto, when you could still consider Ash as kind of a noob, but then again, his pursuit of being a breeder doesn't correlate with Ash's goal beyond that. Clemont's inventions, most of the time, are as relevant as the problem/character of the day in a given episode, except for notable exceptions like his synchro pulse meter and Clembot.

Pikachu's strength is the epitome of bullshit. Even if you consider his status as a glass cannon, the rat is the definition of "as strong as it needs to be". And Infernape is just a milder case of Greninja's thing: it's triggered by his past struggles/traumas, but at the end it's just an abnormally strong Blaze that is as genetic as Greninja's synchro. The differences at the end come to the trigger (bond vs anger), the power boost (Super Saiyan vs Kaio-Ken) and the kind of boost it is (super mode vs super ability).
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>>26909326
Your supposed complaint about Serena not correlating with Ash when she ironically has the most to do with Ash's development in general. Now you just go to
>10/10 WRITING

Here's your (You).
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