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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

OST need re-up apparently

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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Hail Metatron.
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Third for Strange Journey a best.
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AtlusUSA streaming break record right now

Twitch / AtlusUSA.
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>>96908006
Fucking noice.
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Get in here nignogs
http://www.twi
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>>96908173
Why are Atlus USA streaming RB? So nobody buys it? People are just gonna record the video for the translation and import the JP version.
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>>96908315
What? Are you retarded?
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>>96908217
>Not experimenting spells combinations.
>Implying negotiation is slow

Unless you werent paying attention.
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>>96908315
That's a good idea actually. Thanks.
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>>96908223
>>96908065
>>96908006
Reminder to upload your shit to the booru
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Someone re-upp the Nocturne OST already, I'm tired of zero seeder torrents and 'Sign up to download our shit'
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>>96908173
Io sounds fucking terrible.

>"Break Record makes no sense so we changed it to Record Breaker"
Says the streamer guys.

But it does make sense. It's named after something that happens in Yamato's route the game.
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>>96908547
Someone should mega it.

>>96908519
You do it.
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>>96908653
>Io sounds fucking terrible.
Her voice is so fucking beautiful in the mystic version.
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>>96908653
Male Tico sounds awful too. His JP voice is really relaxing.
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>>96908726
I did upload most of my stuff
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>>96908828
>thinking that a voice you can't even understand is beautiful

She could be completely stumbling over all her lines, you don't know. Stop being such a weeb.
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>>96908547
>>96902741
Politely reposting my question
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>>96908904
People who speak moon were commenting on the JP voice acting in the past few threads and say it's great.

Fuck off Atlus USA shill.
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>>96908901
Keep doing it then.
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>>96908904
>thinking that I can't understand her
I bought the game, mate. Stop projecting.
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>>96909032
Oh, so you're just parroting their opinion. Okay then.
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>>96907692
Here you go anon
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>>96909058
>buying DeSu 2
Dumbass.
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>>96909056
I stopped because most of my stuff is Persona related and I didn't want it to become lopsided
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>>96909058
You don't speak Japanese.
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>>96909073

Fanks bud.
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>>96909185
Don't shitpost.
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>>96909185
Not the same guy, I'm just calling you out on your stupid decision.
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>>96909242
>you
I'm not them.
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>>96909176
Oh well someone will do it eventually.
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>>96909210
Never said I could, can understand and read it though.
Who should I speak Japanese with anyways?

>>96909242
Not the same guy.
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>>96908965
Maybe I know the name, almost all of Nocturne's tracks have weirdass names. Describe the tune to me and maybe I can tell you
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>>96909404
I'm not him either
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>>96909404
You can't understand and read Japanese. Please stop pretending.
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>>96909419
Better, here's a video of the scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wp1T1XIZOQ
The first song, and then the song a 1:50 seem to be different, but it gets cut-off because the guy cuts off the dialogue
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>>96908173
The Personages in the chat on the side are insufferable. They won't shut up. WILL WE GET OUR CHOICE OF WAIFU? THIS SMT TRAIT REMINDS ME OF x from PERSONA, and talking about Persona characters.
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>>96909549
So, what's next? I can't understand and read English either?

>>96909526
Well, I'm the guy under your post.
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>>96909603
>Reading twitch chat

What are you doing, it's worse than youtube comments.
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Can we stop pretending we like SJ yet?
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>>96909776
Yeah.
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>>96909776
I certainly hope so.
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>>96909603
>WILL WE GET OUR CHOICE OF WAIFU?
they'll get tender Homotwin boypussy.
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>>96909603
Why would you have a twitch chat open?
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>>96909776
Can we stop pretending not liking SJ and SMT 3?
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>>96909776
I enjoyed SJ.

It needed more bosses though.
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>>96909749
>>96909921
How do I close it?
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>>96909776
I hate every SMT game.
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>>96910212
Click the arrow in the upper left.
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>>96909981
why would you compare SJ and sm3, the design of the two games are polar opposites
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>>96910318
Im not comparing them, i just not like that SJ & SMT3 are hated now.
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>>96909603
All those shitters in the comments that don't know how to use Yamato in battle.
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>>96910535
nocturne is hated because it's not underground anymore now that there exist more than 10 copies that work in the west

SJ is hated because it's a genuinely bad game
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I'm playing Nocturne for the first time and still don't quite understand how this turn system works.
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>>96910535
SJ hate is mostly backlash because the past year has been people jerking SJ off, it was the same deal in 2013 with Nocturne
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Does Break Record have more than 1 ending for the new content? Without spoilers preferably.
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>teddie is now the official atlus mascot
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>>96910776
You have a turn icon for each one of your team members, a critical hit or hit to an enemy's weak spot will give you another action basically.
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>>96910776
Its basically hit enemy weakness, dont hit enemy with the element he/she is strong agaisnt. Dont miss attacks and critical a lot.
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>>96910856
Yes. It was 3 and a bad end.
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>>96911050
Great post again
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>>96910776
It's pretty simple. Each turn icon is expended when you use an action, but if you hit an enemy's weakness or critically hit, you get another action. If you miss or hit an enemy's strength, however, you lose extra turns.
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>>96910776
every character (besides some bosses and demifiend is you do a side quest) = 1 turn for their side

doing any attack = 1 turn
skipping = 1/2 a turn
hitting a weakness or a critical hit = 1/2 a turn, if you already have a flashing 1/2 turn "stocked up" will turn other turns into 1/2 turns. IE if you have 4 turns but hit a weakness four times in a row you get to act 8 times in one turn.
missing, or having your attack voided/repelled/absorbed = 2 turns
talking = all remaining turns
attemping to escape = all remaining turns

the rules are more or less equal for you and the enemy, with the exception that they sometimes have moves that just give them extra 1/2 turns
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>>96911142
Thanks
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>Atlususa: SMT x FE: I know nothing. Literally nothing. The dude form Nintendo Japan who almost got fired last E3 b/c of it is the last thing I heard about it
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>>96911936
What dude is he referring to? The guy at the Codename Steam roundtable that said SMT x FE was on schedule?
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>>96911936
Its canceled, they are waiting for P5 release and trow the news during it so no few people find out.

Lose all hope.
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>>96911936
>>96912242
why do you want this, again?
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>>96912242
>Implying they aren't keeping it a secret just to drink in the despair of idiots who can't handle how there hasn't been news on a game in a awhile.
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>>96912334
Its most likely the only chance a SMT game will appear on consoles. ANd thats in part because Nintendo is/was probably the one funding it.
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>>96912571
>guy posting albert images
>posts retarded shit
Why am I not surprised?
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>>96912571
You know it's been mentioned before but can this guy learn to sign shit in the lower corner, a lot smaller and without a blog link shoved next to it?
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>>96913181
So you're advertising your tumblr on 4chan?
Now I'm surprised. Please don't do that or at least follow the advice of the anon you're responding to.
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>>96912571
No there was an old FE interview from around 2013 where they commented that it's too expensive to make consoles games, so it's cheaper for different companies to work together to make a game.

They also spoiled that it would take place in Tokyo.
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>>96913367
I posted the image and im not the anon you are replying to.
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>>96913518
As "the anon you are replying to". Fuck you.
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What are your general tips for fusing demons in SMT games? It seems that most of the times I do it it's just so I can clear space, even in persona games.
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>>96913748
There are no demons in persona games.

But you fuse them for a higher level, grinding does nothing in SMT because of how quickly MC progresses based on the demons.

Fuse frequently.
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>>96914284
Except in 1, 2, and 5
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>>96914284
>There are no demons in persona games.
Kill yourself, "the guy".
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>>96914462
Personas aren't demons, they don't have personalities and you don't recruit them. Fuck off.
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The people in this atlus stream come off like they've never even played any of the games.
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>>96914429
IS does, EP doesn't. 5 we're not sure yet
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>>96914284
but you fuse personas, geekboy
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>>96914515
Erase yourself completely from this world, I beg you.
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>>96914641
Can't handle the truth that much you resort to petty insults?
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>>96914557
This general isn't any better.
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>>96914805
Really? I mean, most people here are cancer, but I wouldn't doubt that they've played a bunch.
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>>96914284
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>>96914949
Will elly ever marry Piercy?
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I AM A STRONG DEMON WHO NEED NO SUMMONER.

>>96915201
i hope.
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why isnt the booru working
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>Atlus streams break record
>Everybody asks about Persona

Is this what the world has come to?
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>>96916102
Not new
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>>96916102
This stream is shit.
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>>96916102
That stream was a thinly veiled Persona Q&A.
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>>96916102
What stream?
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>>96916876
The stream of cum going into your mom.
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>>96917946
I wasn't born from an inferior human female, but a space egg.
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I'm trying to get the item in DDS2 for Shiva from Parvati but I'm not getting her spawning very much and when I do she doesn't drop the item. Is there anything I can do or a specific place I should be?
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>>96918651
Equip everyone with item find and hope for the best.
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Is Nocturne the best looking SMT game?

Persona 5 doesn't count.
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>>96919895
No its Raidou 2.
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>>96920090
no its SJ
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>>96918917

Is there no way to make her spawn more often?
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>>96914557
Why doesn't P5 count
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>>96920216
No she appears randomly anywhere from layer 3 onwards. Spend that time grinding mantras.
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>>96919895
>>96920265
No game can't beat the realism of pic related.
It's the greatest looking game in the franchise.
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>>96920351
The only bits of it we've seen have been promotional shots
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>>96920403
>can't
fugg
I'm tired, please forgive me.
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>>96916102
People don't give a fuck about SMT, big surprise Sherlock
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>>96914559
>ep doesn't
what
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>>96911936
Was this from the stream? Is there any way you can confirm this was said?
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>>96920824
Eternal Punishment you fucking retard
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>>96920383

I have been for a few hours and I've only seen her twice! Somehow she was spawning quite a bit earlier when I was just going through the dungeon but she still didn't drop it then.
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>>96920989
welcome to SMT.
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>>96920962
Yeah but I remember EP having demons
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>>96914429
You can arguably say that P3 has demons too.
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Recarmdra

This is all I can do for you /smtg/..
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>>96923852
I am Human
Let me rest
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I'm glad Demon-Personas are back for Persona 5

Demons are after all facets of the human mind transformed into mythological creatures, so it's only natural they'd be a sort of Persona
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How long will Nocturne take on Hard non-New Game Plus? Also, should I play non-New Game Plus Expert on Persona 3 and Persona 4?
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Is there a version of KMT prepatched with 1.1? Can only find one for 1.0.

Also the SMT1 version in pastebin doesn't include map patch, does anyone have one with map patch prepatched?
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>>96924026
50-60 hours depending on if you go for TDE or not, not including an huor or two of lost progress you're basically guaranteed to get from the times the game just goes NO and kills you (like when I got 20 random fights in a row once because of riberama + full moon)

also you should always play every game on the hardest difficulty available to you, to do otherwise is to out yourself as a bitch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6326BFf-P18
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>>96924289
And would be boring as fuck.
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>>96924289
>50-60 hours depending on if you go for TDE or not

this right here is my only real issue with TDE, lucifer is such a step up from kagutsuchi that you're basically required to grind for several hours to have a team worthy of him, even if it's just to get the money you need to fuse everything

I used action replay to give myself unlimited money with no regrets, fuck going through that one amala labyrinth minigame stage over and over to make money
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SMTIV player here. I recently got to Tokyo and some guy stole 10,000 Macca from Isabeau. Do I ever track him down and get it back?
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>>96923936
Arent those "demons" Persona users transformed?
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>>96927076
Nope.

That event is actually random IIRC, I think if Walter gets his money stolen it's only like 500 Macca
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How did Atlus manage to get so much out of the SNES hardware? It'd be an interesting story.
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>>96927839
Easy.
STEVEN.
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>>96909176
Do it anyways.
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>>96927839
But SMT 1&2 are actually subpar for the SNES potential.
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Is the sega cd version of SMT worth playing?
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>>96928335
it has some neat remixes, but is slow as hell.
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What if they remade Nocturne and made it like DeSu where you could equip any skill/passive you learned before instead of forgetting them forever?

Would be pretty cool imo since you could equip skills like resists whenever you needed, rather than leaving them useless like they were.
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>>96921097
>>96920989

She finally spawned and guess fucking what.

NOTHING!

I HATE THIS GAME!
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>>96927076
>>96927383
Wait, what? This is the first I'm hearing about this
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>>96927292
People can be transformed into demons, but there's nothing saying all the demons in P1 and 2 were Persona users.
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>>96929518
Persona now works with the shadows instead of demons, in Persona demons are shadows.
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>>96929982
>Persona demons are shadows.

They are separated entities.
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Can someone explain me the Labyrinth of Amala in Nocturne? Is it optional? What do I get for completing it?
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>>96929982
>in Persona demons are shadows
Just because demons weren't in P3 or P4 doesn't make them the same things as shadows.

It seems that P5 has both demons and shadows. So if anything actually explains it, it would be that.
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>>96930104
Yes its optional, rare demons and the True Demon Ending.
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>>96930073
>>96930174

Doesnt the Tatsuya scenario says that the "demons" there are shadows?
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If you complete it before going to the last level in the main game then you get a different ending with another end boss.
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>>96930302
>>96930402
is it worth it? I kinda wanna complete nocturne asap, not sure if this will take too much of my time and offer nothing in return
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>>96930345
If I recall, it only stated that gods and demons were born from the human mind. Don't remember it really mentioning shadows.
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>>96930559
It depends what you define as "worth it." Nocturne notoriously has halfassed endings. This ending is a little better, but you'll have to level up awhile. If this isn't one of your more favorite games and you want to move on rather than have to put work into beating a kind of superboss you can skip it. I did.
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>>96930559
You can make lucifer your bitch and have Dante from the devil may cry seriesâ„¢
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>>96930683
meh I should prolly skip it then, btw can you really recruit demons there? I'm trying to and they all just say "x demon is ready for action!"
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>>96930797
You dont recluit demons there but there are bonus demons for fusion by fully completing the Labyrinth like Datne from the DMC series (Its DMC 2 Dante in design but with DMC 1 Dante personality)
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I've been marathoning through SMT for the first time during the last 6 months (SMT1-3, SJ, IV, Raidou games) and have finally hit a roadblock in Devil Survivor and Soul Hackers which I started simultaneously.

Someone please convince me to continue, I absolutely hate these games so far. I've loved just about everything in this marathon (aside from IV being pretty rehashed and mediocre), but the dull/annoying as fuck characters and stupid plots of these two games are killing me.

Also, is there something I'm missing in Devil Survivor gameplay-wise? So far I've had to do zero grinding in any of these SMT games, but it almost seems necessary for DeSu. Is it?
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>>96931174
DeSu is shit dont worry.

>not liking soul hackers

YOU WHORE
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>>96931174
DeSu 1 story doesnt pick up until you defeat your first serious boss Beldr give it time.

And DeSu only needs grinding regarding dosh and skill cracks. The only annoying thing that stays are the protect civilians missions.
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>>96931174
If you've already played Nocturne and SJ just stop now, every game is boring in comparison due to design flaws or weebshit
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>>96908485
Even with a guide, it's annoying and tedious.
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>>96927076
>>96927383
What?
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>>96931561
Its not more tedious than say SMT 1 absurd encounter rates and ammount of enemies.
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>>96909176
There's over 500 P2 pics.
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>>96931508
Fuck, I don't want it to be true!

>>96931372
>Protect civilian missions
Exactly the reason I stopped. If cosplay bitch and the Incredible Sulk can't be bothered to run, I can't be bothered to save their asses.

>>96931309
Please convince me I'm wrong, I really do want to like this game, if nothing else because I already threw away $15 on it.
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>>96931721
Yeah that's what I mean
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>>96932489
Soul Hackers is incredibly overhyped, I'm sorry you wasted your money
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>>96908547
>>96908901
I'm uploading a collection of FLAC (except for a few .ape's) SMT music, it will take a while though.

It's 6.5GB

I'm compressing a persona one rn
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>>96932624
Tell me that in my face, and not over Paradigm X, fagget.
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Is it okay so far, guys? I'm not having any problem with survivability, so can I just put it all on STR and steamroll the game?
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>>96929425
>>96931643
Can anyone confirm this shit?
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>>96932836
>that internal resolution
Are you on a toaster?
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>>96932836
>Not using your name as the game intended.

You are already beyond help.
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>>96933085
what name?
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>>96932808
why not torrent it
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>>96932874
Somebody from here reposted it on /a/ as well, and told me that it was from the comment section, not the video itself, but it was Atlus USA making the comment.
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>>96932624
Well, fuck.
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>>96933184
Neat. I googled but couldn't find extensive resources on it, probably because it's not that popular I suppose. Might keep it in mind during a second playthrough, and try to see all the random dialogue.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2q-3o4rCM

lel
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>>96933847
autism
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>>96933132
Too lazy
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>>96930559
>I kinda wanna complete nocturne asap
why?
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>>96931702
difference is that in SMT1 random encounters end in a single round as soon as you get a decent gun
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>>96934583
idk, the gameplay feels kinda outdated in some ways, it's fun but it's not completely enjoyable
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>>96934705
>Implying

They dont because as soon as you finish that another group of enemies appear, doesnt help that auto in SMT 1 is pretty shit.
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>>96934787
What rpgs are you playing with less dated gameplay?
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I'm surprised how... Playable KMT is. It's a quick start and gives a great sense of progression early on
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>>96934936
some stuff that I didn't like in Nocturne:

not being able to check enemy's weakness and current HP at any time without wasting a turn, once I heard that any game mechanics that can be mimicked by a pen and a paper shouldn't be there to begin with, having to remember enemies' weakness and not being able to see their current HP is a huge turnoff for me

another thing is how magatamas work, needing to switch them just before leveling up just so I can keep unlocking skills kinda interrupts the gameplay in a way I don't like, and the fact that there's no way to "remember" old skills is awful given that most of them, specially passives, are fucking useless for most of the game
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>>96932836
World of strength nigga.

Once you get to 30 str put 30 into vit.
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>>96935282
>not being able to check enemy's weakness and current HP at any time without wasting a turn
So your complaint is basically "my memory is bad"? Seeing as how if you know an enemies weakness you're basically guaranteed to win, it taking up a turn to use analyze isn't a big deal.

>another thing is how magatamas work, needing to switch them just before leveling up just so I can keep unlocking skills kinda interrupts the gameplay in a way I don't like
it's to offer a tradeoff between getting a new skill but having to use a magatama that might not be ordeal for whatever area you're in. it's literally the only piece of equipment in the entire game, swapping it around every now and then isn't going to kill you

>the fact that there's no way to "remember" old skills is awful given that most of them, specially passives, are fucking useless for most of the game
not only is this wrong, but if you could pick from all the skills you've learned the game would be way way too easy (like in DDS, where you can do exactly that and the game is really really easy). It requires you to think a little about when and what skills you're learning.

Just because all recent rpgs are boring grindfests where there's never any thought required or a risk of losing, that doesn't mean nocturne is "dated" because you need to think a little about what you're doing.

I mean you're free to like or dislike whatever you want, but I really don't get how "this game where the combat is picking from menus is requiring me to sometimes think about my menu surfing instead of just hitting X" is a bad thing
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>>96935282
> having to remember enemies' weakness
This serie is not for you, scrub.
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I was watching someone complain about this game, and how it's from Atlus.

All I can think of is Ronde.

Is there a poor soul who has experience with it to give an opinion?
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This doesn't look like /feg/!
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>>96935967
They published it, the series was made by the guys who made this dating sim dungeon crawler (You can even unlock the original Hylide by finishing the game).Persona 3&4 ripped this

And yeah i heart it was terrible
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Digital Penguin Saga when?
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>>96936667
I would play this.

Rico - Chaos
Private - Law
Kowalski- Neutral
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>>96936667
Not before Raiho Kuzunohee vs The Hee-Ho Army.
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>>96937082
i want this.
I want this so bad!
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>>96933847
What exactly was wrong with it? I don't necessarily agree with him (Persona 1 vastly outclasses 3 and 4 imo, and recommending revelations just for the ost is dumb), but compared to other persona fans he's fairly educated on the background
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does anyone have some good smt history videos or let's plays (or some other kind of video series)? About to clock out and want something good to fall asleep to
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>>96937267
All the demons in the game are Hee-Hos, like Muh Shoovu.
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>>96937728
Get killed by Aleph
Fuck god
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>>96937804
Guys, I think I'm a heehophile
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>>96937728
Fuck Lucifer.
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Is Jack Frost the perfect mascot?.
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>>96938263
Evidently not
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>>96938263
Yes.
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>>96938263
my brother's only played P3 and 4 and still thinks Jack Frost is the mascot of Atlus if that counts for anything
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>>96938835

That's actually pretty impressive.
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I'm grinding up to kill all the optional bosses in the final dungeon of DDS2 including Satan cause I hate myself. Is there any particular spot that's best to grind at or should I just hang out around the 6th Layer's Large Data Node and use a Magic Reed?
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https://games.yahoo.com/news/20-hardest-games-world-actually-145100130.html

I can't believe the Matador meme made the list. You'd think they might actually look past him and see that Mot is the true hard boss of SMT3.
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>>96939015
>Mot

Fuck that guy.
Its the puzzle boy incarnated.
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>>96939015
>No. 1 Spelunky

Stopped reading there, what a dumb list.
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>>96939015
Mot lacks the meme status Matador has. They should just fuse into Motador, a skeleton in a sarcophagus, the ultimate spook
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>>96939615
Why wasn't Mot a real skelly anyways?
I always bugs me
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>>96939696
Because Mot is a cute girl.
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>>96939823
Sounds just like the snake way waifu.
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