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CoC is dead! edition

>BugTrap, crash to desktop, freeze/lockup?? Find your crash log.
Check your Documents or game install directories for the xray_[your name].log file. If you can't find it, look in the location specified at the top of fsgame.ltx. Copy the last few lines from the log and paste them here if you want any help.

Remember to switch to "Viewing" mode on the Google docs.
>Start guide, beginner tips, and much much more
http://pastebin.com/FUPEbLiv (embed)
>HUD Guide, How to Mod, Reducing/Removing Headbob, and More
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DEbJvFWS3L4LY8OPMG5m9pw2FnJpegwjDFTN0BmM8uk
>Why Complete is bad and you shouldn't play it
http://pastebin.com/6AtetpMM (embed)
>Performance Guides, Steam settings
http://pastebin.com/nzXEevG7 (embed)
>Mod lists and reviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zlWA6xTRYTbf8WgvxjBX1fo2LshPo6okHkNY1Ojgg9g
>AMK Mod Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15-o_97gjEQRGO6QhUehY7LdqD3FJy84Pz_sWTTV46as

>The Zone Manual: Every Mod You'll Ever Need for the True Ukrainian Experience
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=121125400
>Pasta summaries, streamer listing and more
http://cheeki.violates.me/
>STALKER General Steam Group - Join chat and ask for an invite!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BroZone
>STALK-IRC - a universally compatible game-integrated chat client
https://github.com/TKGP/STALK-IRC/releases

Reminder that MS Update KB2670838 breaks your DX10/11 games including Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat. You can safely uninstall it.
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Mods and Repositories | Often out of date; use only as a last resort!

>Shadow of Chernobyl
https://mega.co.nz/#F!R5tnxQab!u1LS76bEVBuIrAZw6Py_3A
>Clear Sky
https://mega.co.nz/#F!NoVzUJLZ!g4Qdy88rL3BG7WTlNXsGOw
>Call of Pripyat
https://mega.co.nz/#F!58lwDISQ!P-UNABvTEA7km2fLUIAU7A
>Game Repacks + Modding Tools
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Ql5CSLxb!gNkfqg-xAUfYezLuMaFtYQ
>Downgrading Patches (drag-and-drop)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!M4BmDRCL!vfze70GSJDyv-HzWn7Dwww
>Unpacked Gamedata + GSC Backup HDD assets
https://mega.co.nz/#F!V5hBzKab!wF7fgX6m5Tq29B_m5EX69g
>Old Builds (dated from June 1st, 2002)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kFtnBTSb!K-RlA1TVxlJGl86yE1c6fw

>Call of Chernobyl
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UpIFQAaS!azP78S8xIqsmRoZV3BOHkg
>Lost Alpha
https://mega.co.nz/#F!nJEUgaKS!UdZXAwzMWmtjwfn_dFM3dg
>Oblivion Lost Remake
http://pastebin.com/7bhDCP9A (embed)

>Codebro's 1.0008 Patch for SoC - enter "menu_fps_cap 0" in the console to prevent crashes.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6644yv6xekn73rr/Codebro's+1.0008b+Fix+1.zip
http://pastebin.com/CtQ7zfkA (embed)
>Xetrill's Modified LuaJIT for CS/CoP - improves performance, especially in script-heavy mods.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!BIISmQgK!KHZR01ljznUqJlcHUax-aQ
http://www.gsc-game.com/main.php?t=community&s=forums&s_game_type=xr2&thm_id=23321&sec_id=22

Reminder to kill yourselves.
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Let's not die this time, okay lads?
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>EVERYONES GONE

YES FINALLY, FUCKING FIRST
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>>121899621
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>>121899568
>>121899621

fuck.
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>>121899645
Let's pray in the monolith's name brothers.
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>>121899621
>posts 4 minutes after I've resurrected the thread
Why didn't you make it then? Why did I have to save us from the eternal damnation right after I came home from work?
>>121899738
Don't worry, that post was me, the OP. You're still first.
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>>121899815

thanks senpai, I did, sort of.
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Is there any way to add a quest item to a trader's inventory and buy it? I'm trying to get the family rifle in SoC.
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>>121899768
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>>121903460
Yep.
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>>121899815
No one asked for this. Just let us die in piece. This general could use some rest.
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>>121903673
How? I know you can add non quest items but I haven't been able to get them to sell quest ones.
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>>121903884
Do you know what the item's called?
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>>121904062
It's the 'family rifle' but it's referred to as multiple things here in "unique_items.ltx" so I'm not quite sure which one it is.
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>>121904302
you're looking in the wrong file.
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>>121904349
Which file should I be looking at? It's definitely wpn_toz34 though.
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>>121904553
i don't think it is~
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>>121904720
How the FR*CK would you know
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>>121905051
because it says it right there in your screenshot senpai
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>>121905451
wpn_bm16?
I already tried adding that and hunters_toz to the trader and nothing appeared in his inventory. Can you even get them to sell quest items?
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>>121905670
It worked, it was wpn_toz34 :^)
I'm such a genius
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>>121905832
Fuck this new meme game made by Bethesda to be honest.
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ANO
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CHEEKI
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syka blyat
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Can I use the CoP starter pack stuff with CoC? Or will it poop the bed?
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>>121910308
take a wild guess
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>>121908437
well ill be a molerats uncle!!
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Kill yourselves
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>>121910591
Yes?
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>>121911128
probably not t︂bh f︂︂a︂m
what about it do you like? there's a lot of coc addons that might give you some of the same effects.
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Why is coc dead?
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>>121911276
I haven't actually tried CoC as of yet, I was just curious. Is AO working with CoC yet?
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>>121909412
>A NOO
long sound, m8
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>>121911480
Playing CoC vanilla is pretty fun, actually, but if you want dem gramphics you should use OWR or STCSWP. AO3 is okay but it's pretty samey with STCSWP and of the two STCSWP is more polished.
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>>121911502
I know f a m, straight outta bandit radio
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>>121912181
why are you typing like that f︂︂a︂m?
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>>121912181
baka
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I'm playing CoP for the first time vanilla with atmosfear and really enjoying it. But i've been running around Yanov for awhile now and the place seems kinda dead. Almost no patrolling stalkers or anything, just some random clusterfuck over at the AA site with bloodsuckers, Duty and some dogs. Is it supposed to be this quiet ?
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>>121914314
Yes, it is.
Welcome to CoP.
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>>121914314
Get MSO it livens everything up a lot
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>>121911637
Neato, thanks
>STCSWP
What does this stand for?+
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>>121914807
If you're talking about where to find it, the ones compatible with CoC are in the addons folder in the repo in the first post.

nobody knows what it stands for (^:
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>>121914691
Does MSO require a new game ?
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ok so i made some fixes/patches etc for coc 1.2.24+ao 3.0
not gonna write a whole blog here so just read this pastebin for the readme/changes.
http://pastebin.com/7NySscUz

should take care of the issues with the current ao3.0+coc, and then some.

I tested it, and the optionals , all seemed to work. no crashes.

here it is
https://mega.nz/#!BYBASZYD!Ciild1zPYTrJZ_G78eoJfpqdTB0rnXqVNFcBr6sHGgA
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>>121914950
Rad, thanks man
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>>121915126
>Fixes the wpn_addon_silencer10, wpn_addon_silencer10 inventory icons

this should say
Fixes the wpn_addon_silencer10, wpn_addon_silencer50 inventory icons
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I give up, how the fuck do I get past the army machine gun at the entrance to the Cordon in CS?
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>>121919979
Kill yourself
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>>121919979
is it really so hard to just google this exact question

also slay thyself, sir knight
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>>121919979
Something to do with using cover and running, I would assume.
Oh, and the obligatory commit suicide post.
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>>121919979
git gud
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>>121920359
That's what I'd been trying, but it just kills me instantly the moment I leave cover anyway.
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Just a heads up, artifacts do indeed respawn in CoC. Low chances, sure, but I just went and harvested the gas field behind the bunker in Yantar, waited until an emission, went out, and harvested it again.
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Just a heads up, artifacts do indeed respawn in CoC. Low chances, sure, but I just went and harvested the gas field behind the bunker in Yantar, waited until an emission, went out, and harvested it again.
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>>121920757
It's a bit of a trial-and-error thing. There's not much you can do about it.
You could also savescum.
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>>121919979
There's a cover sequence that's known to work.

You can also go back to the swamps and use the other entrance.
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Why cant i sell guns in COC

Are these fucking faggots seriously only buying 100% condition shit

How the fuck will i make dosh
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>>121925407
Fix the accepted sell condition in the files or repair/sell the things
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>>121925407
They buy 70 percent or better, if I recall from vanilla.
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>>121926279
They do. One of my first few playthroughs I edited it to 50% and I was drowning in money. Strong regrets.
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When are we going to get a mod to fix bullet sponge ballistics

I can't be CoCk this way
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>>121927968
fix it yourself
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>>121927968
Set time_to_aim on all the weapons to 0.
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Can I install the released version of CoCk without installing CoP?
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anything in lab X-16 in CoC that I can't handle with a shotgun and an rpk74?
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>>121930801
There's nothing in the lab in first place.
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>>121914807
>>121914950
I would go out on a limb and say it stands for "stalker clear sky weapon pack"
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>>121932358
that's not it
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quite the tactic
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>>121920778
yeah the problem is the max number of artifacts in the field at one time is low, like 1-3.
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>>121932561
And how do you know? Im curious cause i actually want to know what it stands for.
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>>121932564
he appears to be making progress
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>>121932740
Spsre him senpai
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>>121932856
thats my follower lmao hes just desperate to clear that base and its a pseudogiant steadily approaching from the east
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>>121932693
because it's STCSWP not SCSWP
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>>121933125
well fuck maybe not so steadily after all lmao its over with
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>>121933306
goodbye vlad cactus
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>>121933269
Or your forgetting some acronyms use the first two letters of a word such as STalker Clear Sky Weapon Pack.
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>>121933923
You're responding to the most obvious bait of the century. Please stop.
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Is there a way to get STALK-IRC to work in CoC, and is the IRC channel active at all?
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>>121934545
No and no
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>>121933490
rip f a m
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can i add zrp to a pre existing save file
my first and current save files is 100% vanilla and im about 30% through the game
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anyone have the "his optimism: gone" pic of the guy in a gas mask?
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I'm having a blast with MSO more than with CoC.
CoC is lifeless shit.
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>>121942614
disliked and unsubscribed
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>>121942865
raped and left for dead.
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>>121944013
stop scaring me
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>>121944974
Don't worry, I'll not hurt you, m'man.
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>he isn't playing fallout 4
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>>121948856
>playing meme games
>playing bethesda games
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Any tips on playing Monolith in CoC? Trying to get down into the SoC areas proved difficult, what with all the chimeras lurking about.
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>>121949947
Bring friends.
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>>121950278
Uh, you don't get to bring friends
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>>121950278
Tried that. They managed to die to pseudodogs and the little rat fuckers. Made my way to Jupiter where I got shot by some Duty fuckwits and died (ironman)

Monolithing is hard, but it is the virtuous path. How am I supposed to find proper guns without hoping my allies get killed? Working Faction Wars mod when?
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>>121956758
Bring a lot of friends.

Go to the pseudogiant party right after you spawn and steal your friends' shit.

Never engage without proper cover.

Get your hands on a sniper rifle as soon as possible.

If you ever have to go to the CNPP, hook around through Zaton unless you like Chimeras fucking your butt right after you enter the map.
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where can I find the last toolkit in CoC?

Also: https://youtu.be/DUPQtixaGlU
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where can I find the last toolkit in CoC? And where can I get the shopkeeper's playlist (the one in cordon)

Also threadtheme amirite: https://youtu.be
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>>121958254
The CoC Lost Alpha expansion pack.
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>>121958368
oops

https://youtu.be/DUPQtixaGlU
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>>121958498
If I add the Lost alpha pack can I keep my saves or I have to start over?
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>>121958607
You have to start over.
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>start up CoC for the first time
>gunshots in the distance near Cordon
>some Loners and Military having a giant shootout
>end up wiping each other out
>grab all their shit

Who repairs weapons in CoC?
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>>121958786
mechanics
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>>121958819
Who? What faction is he a part of?
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>>121958819
Where? Are there any near Cordon? Also how do you detach scopes from rifles in CoC
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Are there any CoP mods that add a magazine system like Zone of Alienation does?
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>>121959401
is it so difficult to just play the game
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>Sid doesn't sell 5.45 ammo
What the fuck
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>>121960531
go and kill some soldiers and take theirs you pussy
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This asshole had to go and step on a landmine with a Val

Jerk
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>Fighting through the Scorcher complex in SoC
>literally losing my fucking mind
>get into the lab after magdumping the sniping asshole in the watchtower
>no booletz
>find bloodcyka creeping around
>run run run
>back outside there are 6 nigz waiting for me
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>>121962197
Come on bro. You can totally grab that.
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>>121962557
I tried like 6 times, the landmines are too stronk

Fucking Sidorovich probably wouldn't take it anyway because I doubt it's in pristine condition
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>>121963329
9x39 special snowflake guns aren't worth it anyway, they degrade too fast. Abakan or LR300, that's the way to go.
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>>121963463
I got 2 Abakans from going berserker mode and killing the military at the bridge but they're both in shitty shape. I also got a pair of SV-98s from the military guys at the Cordon barrier
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>>121963641
Honestly I'd say you're all set. My scientist save has an Abakan and a SVU and a Kimber and that's probably all I'll ever use unless I find some super special snowflake gun.
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>>121959179
every faction has one dummy its right by the main traders in every location and some factions can use multiple ones for the more friendly factions cordon bar red forest jupiter and zaton all have one available
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>>121956983
can you recruit multiple followers by default or
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>>121964980
or do you have to edit some file

post autosent by accident
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>>121964980
Depends on the mod you're using, but in vanilla I think the limit is two other guys.
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>>121965151
damn alright thanks would you happen to know what file sets that if not its all good
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>>121965218
axr_companions.ltx
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>>121930747
yes, just use the registry work around
http://pastebin.com/64Y7CXLN

>>121915126
noice
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I'M AN ALCOHOLIC
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Hey, does anyone know the names of the smart terrains in the unpopulated underground areas in CoC? I'm working on putting spawns in there.
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>>121965427
thanks
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i am currently running arsenal overhaul, atmosFEAR and absolute nature in CoP
my game stutters alot when i am using anything other than static lightning
and when i use static lightning my mouse movement is smoothed out (even worse than acceleration)
and i have tried cam_inert 0, nothing seems to be working
how do i fix this
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>>121971483
what are pc specs?
stuttering happens,but it's really an x-ray issue. the open x-ray that coc uses fixes it for the most part, i barely ever stutter with ssd while playing coc. using an ssd, and prefetch helps,
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>>121971897
i7 2600k @ 4GHz
7870 2GB
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>>121972786
no ssd?

try turning down some graphic settings
sun shafts, shadow quality
ssao = hdao for amd

you should have no problem running that game in non static renderer.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2510954

might help
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>>121973335
ohh ok, thank you, will do!
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D
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InSoC, after I turn off the brain scorcher, where can I find the mercs? They are gone from Wild Territory. Still need some stashes.
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E
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DDDDD
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Good morning, /sg/.
Are you having a nice day?
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>>121985916
Kill yourself
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>>121986181
rude >:(
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>>121985916
Just eating my breakfast family, thanks.
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>>121983970
Army Warehouses and Pripyat.
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>>121983970
A couple spawn on the roof of the construction site.
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>>121985916
Morning.
Yeah, it's going pretty good, I'm not even all that hungover from yesterday. How are you doing?
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>>121962197
did u revert atomsfear brightnes settings?

ur hands are too white
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>>121986520
That's nice, hope you're enjoying it.

>>121987054
Oh, the same as every day. Wake up, turn up the music and enjoy life from that point on until it's bedtime again.
I really couldn't ask for more.
Did you have a party yesterday?
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>>121987556
Living the hedonistic dream, huh?
>Did you have a party yesterday?
I was planning to, but for various reasons I couldn't go. I just sweetened my evening with a wee bit of Johnnie Walker. I also may have poured myself way too fucking much in the second glass.
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>>121987556
It's the same old toast. Nothing amazing, but it gets the job done nicely. Thanks again.
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I installed Faction War from Mega, and there is no Sidorovich. How can i fix this? Sorry for english,
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>>121988220
>How can i fix this?
By installing the proper faction wars mod, TFW 3.8 for Clear Sky, not this buggy piece of shit for CoC.
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>>121988220
This problem
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>>121988220
lol

from what i remember, supposedly you just wait for another npc to take his place.
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>>121988220
Teбe yжe oтвeтили блять.
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>>121987808
>Living the hedonistic dream, huh?
Yeah, kind of. There's just too much shit going on on this rock nowadays, I think it's healthier/better to have a mellow life.
>I also may have poured myself way too fucking much in the second glass.
Understandable. I loved to drink JW red label back then, good stuff.

>>121988126
One should appreciate even the smallest things. Toast is a pretty good small thing.
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ZoA has the option to transmute some artifacts using different anomalies. I managed to get some transmutations to work
>Put the artifact in the secondary weapon slot
>press m1 until the artifact gets dropped and the screen flashes
>wait time
>acquire new artifact
the problem is that some other times I drop the artifact on an anomaly, nothing flashes and some animation starts making the artifact levitate and I get a crash

My question is less about the crash itself (I get different crashes with different anomalies and different artifacts) and more about if it's possible to transmute using a different method (like dropping the artifract and pushing it into the anomaly).

In case it helps, this is the last crash I got:

FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : CInifile::r_string
[error]File : E:\stalker\sources\trunk\xrCore\Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 352
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : Can't find variable attack_animation_start in [zone_aeimosquito_bald_weak]

Kind of weird considering I dropped an artifact in a Fruit Punch anomaly but hey.
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>>121962230
>not just get the enhanced rifle for Duty to get the Vintar
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>>121989140
>ZoA
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>>121989521
I like the magazine mechanic. If there's other mod that does the same or something similar I'm more than okay with changing.
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>>121989937
>I like the magazine mechanic.
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>>121989974
Is hating ZoA some kind of new meme I'm unaware of? Before I stopped playing the game and coming to the general everyone loved the mod and were friendly and helpful to FatalFunnel when he posted regarding the mod.
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>>121990594
Yes, yes it is.
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>>121990880
Oh. That explains it then.
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This is a bump
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>>121989140
Nigga you dumb, just drop it. If it doesn't flash you're dropping the wrong thing in the wrong anomaly or you don't have the recipe.
The first person thing is for making new anomalies.
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>>121997182
>If it doesn't flash you're dropping the wrong thing in the wrong anomaly or you don't have the recipe.
I have the recipe AND I'm dropping it correctly since dropping other artifacts from the same position and in the same anomaly works.
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>>121997495
>using zoa
theres ur problem bud
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>>121998905
We've been over this already
>>121989937
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>>122000594
>liking the magazine mechanic
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>>122000730
We've been over that already, too
>>121990594
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>>122000779
Memes are fun desu.
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>>122000912
I didn't say they aren't fun.
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>>122000965
>Before I stopped playing the game and coming to the general everyone loved the mod and were friendly and helpful to FatalFunnel when he posted regarding the mod.
I don't know, you sounded kinda salty.
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>>122001069
>Pointing out that the game used to be played and loved by everyone in this general is being salty
Whatever buddy. I just wanted help to fix the problem I had.
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anyone have any suggestions for balancing the AO economy in CoCk?
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>>122000594
If you're such a sperg that you're willing to force feed yourself the hot garbage that is ZoA's magazine system just to have some realism in your painfully unrealistic video game, then you're going to have to deal with all the bugs that come with it. That means figuring out fixes that not even Fatal could figure out.

The ZoA magazine system is objectively bad. Whether you like is or not is subjective. ZoA itself is a buggy, unbalanced mess on par with Misery, but gets a free pass because of Fatals dick suckers.

I'm honestly not sure if I'm glad that people are finally realizing this, or sad that no one with proper knowledge picked it up and worked on some much needed clean up after fatal committed suicide
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>>122001478
I gave up on ZoA the day I realised item descriptions were more important than correct sun cycle, even a basic sunny day.
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why is STCS's weapon sounds and recoil just better than AO's? I'm playing them side by side and STCS makes AO's creator look like a drooling spacktard.
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>>122001478
>realism in your painfully unrealistic video game
I never said I wanted realism though.
>The ZoA magazine system is objectively bad
I didn't have a problem with it so far. I've been playing the game with almost no crashes this entire week and none of them were related to the mag system so I couldn't care less.
>then you're going to have to deal with all the bugs that come with it
It's not like I came here demanding a bug-free update anyways. Did I? Hell, if you think about it I came looking for someone that maybe knew about an alternative method to modify artifacts (because I had the feeling I was doing something wrong).

I fail to see the reason to get this riled up.
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>>122001478
>>122002942
>playing anything but coc
lmao t︂bh f︂︂a︂m
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>>122002942
>I never said I wanted realism though.
There's no other reason to want it. You'll find fully loaded magazines everywhere you go, so it's not like it makes an heavy impact on the gameplay.
>no crashes this entire week and none of them were related to the mag system
Lucky you. Doesn't detract from the magazine system being bad.
>because I had the feeling I was doing something wrong
There isn't and you aren't.
see>>121998905
that answered you pretty clearly.
>I fail to see the reason to get this riled up.
Because you and everyone elses time would be better off playing a better mod.
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Which of these am I supposed to use? My monitor is 16:9
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>>122004026
4x3 DX9
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>>122004026
16x10 DX10
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>>122004026
8x1 DX12
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>>122004026
16x10 DX9
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>>122004026
4x3 DX10
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>>122004026
2x4 DX35
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>>122004026
69x420 DX1337
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>>122004098
>>122004134
>>122004184
>>122004186
thanks
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>>122004314
No problem lad, I'm always here to help.
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>>122004314
kill yourself
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CoC good or is it an empty boring hull like Lost Alpha?
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>>122007436
It's pretty good but you have to make your own fun.
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>>121899447
Could you guys recommend me mods for first CoP playthrough? Guides in the OP seems to focus more on SoC which i already finished. Thankies.
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>>122010475
>first playthrough
Vanilla.
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>>122010747
No fan patches to remove bugs and shit required then?
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>>122011064
It's not very buggy by default.
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Is the luajit for CoP in the Repo the most recent?
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>>122011064
Not for CoP, no.
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>>122011141
>>122011167
Ok thanks, going to cheekibreeki some shit right now
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>tfw no independent Ironman mod
Fuck CoC, it's fine if you like it but I don't like it.
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>>122011901
You may be a little disappointed.
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>>122012428
Do you not have any self-control?
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>>122012592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_ng7JCkkc
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>>122012428
Maybe you should make one instead of wasting your time blogging.
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>>122014394
This is the only mod I'll ever make, fuck you.
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I feel like this is a retarded question, but please bear with me.
So I made it to the Sarcophagus. How am I supposed to go up to the Wish Granter? The portal that normall lead you to the Wish Granter isn't there.
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>>122015764
just jump up there lmao
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>>122003848
>There's no other reason to want it.
Then you are wrong because I don't give half a damn about realism yet I like the magazine system as is.
>Lucky you. Doesn't detract from the magazine system being bad.
You still have not pointed out a single reason why it is "objectively bad" and that does detract the veracity of your statement.
>There isn't and you aren't.
There is and I was wrong.
see >>121997182
>Because you and everyone elses time would be better off playing a better mod.
So you are riled up this hard because I'm wasting my time doing what I want? And I was the sperg, damn.
If you are so worried about it you should be giving me a mod recommendation instead of throwing a childish tantrum.

>>122003831
I actually can't play CoC. CoP works just fine but CoC crashes on startup.
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>>122016578
If you can play CoP you should be able to play CoC, so I think your installation is fucked.
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>>122016727
Being 100% honest the last time I tried playing CoC was when the beta leaked. I downloaded the CoC in OP while I was running some errands and I'm about to install it and try.
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How was your day, Stalker?
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>>122016935
It'll run fine.
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>>122016578
>yet I like the magazine system as is.
Then you just like eating shit. Simple as that.
>objectively bad
>>useless mechanics as magazines are always readily available
>>able to crash your game
>>can cause ammo/entire magazines to just vanish
>>tedious to work with and takes up a key slot instead of having its own dedicated key
>mod recommendation
CoC
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>>122017001
Pretty good pham, I did my day doing absolutely fucking nothing once again.
Disabling the Brain Scorcher was much easier than I anticipated. Ninja run to enter the lab than fight it out, and then after you're done with the lab use the train as cover and slaughter everything.
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>>122017232
>useless mechanics as magazines are always readily available
Just like boxes of bullets. Except mags give you the option to gimp yourself further if you want to play with self-imposed rules.
>able to crash your game
Never suffered a crash related to the mags so you are by definition giving a subjective reason as to why it is objectively bad. Therefor it isn't objectively bad.
>can cause ammo/entire magazines to just vanish
Same as before.
>tedious to work with
Isn't that the entire point?
>takes up a key slot
Temporarily, but yeah. This kind of sucks because sometimes you must remove artifacts, reload and then re-add them again.
>instead of having its own dedicated key
This is something I agree on as well. A dedicated key or option to refill mags without having to deal with all the process would've been amazing
>CoC
I'm already working on it.
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>>122017232
>able to crash your game
every single mod in the history of stalker can crash your game and/or cause a different array of problems/glitches so by your logic all mods are shit and every mod that adds some interesting mechanic is useless
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>>122020068
>Except mags give you the option to gimp yourself further if you want to play with self-imposed rules.
The fact that the mechanic doesn't add anything to the game but a way to gimp yourself further only shows how shit the mechanic is.
>Never suffered a crash
You haven't, but many people have, which means it in fact a problem.
>Isn't that the entire point?
I war referring to the process of loading/unload.

>>122020728
I find it hard to follow you. So if a mod adds a mechanic that can crash your game and is absolutely useless as a gameplay mechanic, then it's not a shit mechanic? The entirety of the mod might not be brought down, but it's not like ZoA doesn't have its fair share of problems in other areas.
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>>122022365
>The fact that the mechanic doesn't add anything to the game but a way to gimp yourself further only shows how shit the mechanic is.
Hud removal, invisible anomalies, binocular enemy-friendly indicators removed, hunger, changing the weight you can carry, new mutants, increased rate of weapon degradation, decreased item drops... Every single mod you have played has something that doesn't add anything to the game and actually gimps yourself.
>You haven't, but many people have, which means it in fact a problem.
It is a problem? To the person affected by it, sure. That doesn't makethe mod even remotely close to objectively bad.
>I war referring to the process of loading/unload.
If you mean the whole process of 'put mags in belt, press 5, press R, rinse and repeat' then yes thats quite tedious.
>if a mod adds a mechanic that can crash your game and is absolutely useless as a gameplay mechanic, then it's not a shit mechanic?
Absolutely all mods add something that is useless and that can potentially crash the game so by your definition all mods are shit.
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>>122024498
What does atmosfear add that is useless and can potentially crash the game
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>>122025732
Psi storms, and they're a lot more than "potential". Nice example, champ.
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>>122026241
Psi storms aren't useless. As much of a meaningless addition they might be, they're perfectly functional.
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>>122025732
Haven't played Atmosfear.
If it adds models then it already added useless things that can crash your game.

>>122026306
>functional = not useless
You are mistaken, buddy.
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>>122026306
You think magazines are stupid, I think psi storms are stupid. They're both buggy as shit. Get some perspective.
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>>121989403
>Not keeping that enhanced 5.56 cheap sniper.
>Not do all the other Voronin's quest to get the VAL with a remote-scope.
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>>122026452
I've never had a psi storm bug
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>>122024498
>Every single mod you have played has something that doesn't add anything to the game and actually gimps yourself.
Every single mod has some shit mechanics, yes.
>Absolutely all mods add something that is useless and that can potentially crash the game so by your definition all mods are shit.
No. My logic is that if a mod adds something that is useless and can potentially crash the game then the mod has shit mechanics. I never said the mod is outright shit because it includes said mechanic.
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>>122027378
I'm very happy for you.
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>>122027560
>My logic is that if a mod adds something that is useless and can potentially crash the game then the mod has shit mechanics.
So your logic is that if something is shit, it is shit? Damn, aren't you Sherlock?

Your logic a bunch of posts ago was "Don't play ZoA because it has a shitty useless mechanic that can crash your game. Your time is better off spent playing this other mod with a different shitty useless mechanic that can crash your game instead"
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Installed SoC and some of the starter pack mods, now I keep getting XR_3DA.exe has stopped working after the splash screen. I installed ZRP, absolute structures/nature, and the weather overhaul.

I've tried all the tricks on google and they don't work. Does anyone have any input before I just scrap it all and reinstall the game completely?
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>>122029257
>Don't play ZoA because it has a shitty useless mechanic that can crash your game. Your time is better off spent playing this other mod with a different shitty useless mechanic that can crash your game instead
Yeah, that's the compromise you have to make with STALKER mods. Every mod has shit mechanics so you're better off playing the mods that have less of those and more of the good ones.
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Is there ANY way (even with meme-collision glitches) to get into the Freedom armory in CoC? Obviously I've tried breaking the lock but the game still states that it's locked.
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>>122030232
God mod and teleport to cam
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>>122030232
If you modify whatever file makes it locked, sure.
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>>122030318
>>122030427
I probably should have said "anything I can do in-game without console", but those work.
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>>122030617
You can shoot the tuna cans on the floor for a big surprise (^:
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>>122030427
what file or how do i do that god mod and teleport shit is it in the coc main menu thing
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>>122033036
my religion prevents me from assisting shitters
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so I installed around 7 mods, including lurk and my start screen looks like this and SoC crashes everytime I start a new game. I only have 512 gpu ram and my friend said lurk is pretty graphics intensive. would removing lurk let me run it?
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>>122035904
If anyone deserved a "kill yourself" right now it would be you.
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>>122035904
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>>122036076
>>122036178
>>122036456
so I should probably take lurk out?
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>>122037318
Just start over
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>>122037451
so reinstall and put every mod but lurk back in? im basically brain-dead when it comes to installing mods
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>>122037846
Just delete gamedata and reinstall the mods
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>>122037846
what mods are you using
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So yeah, first time player here, got myself a copy of SOC and installed the starter pack, set the difficulty to master, etc. I've got as far as agroprom and I'm not sure if it's just me or the game but I seem to have great difficulty landing any shots, even while crouched down and using single-fire mode. That and the fact that enemies seem to be bullet sponges is kinda putting me off, Is there anyway to alleviate this or am I just gonna have to grin and bear it?
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So yeah, first time player here, got myself a copy of SOC and installed the starter pack, set the difficulty to master, etc. I've got as far as agroprom and I'm not sure if it's just me or the game but I seem to have great difficulty landing any shots, even while crouched down and using single-fire mode. That and the fact that enemies seem to be bullet sponges is kinda putting me off, Is there anyway to alleviate this or am I just gonna have to grin and bear it?
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So yeah, first time player here, got myself a copy of SOC and installed the starter pack, set the difficulty to master, etc. I've got as far as agroprom and I'm not sure if it's just me or the game but I seem to have great difficulty landing any shots, even while crouched down and using single-fire mode. That and the fact that enemies seem to be bullet sponges is kinda putting me off, Is there anyway to alleviate this or am I just gonna have to grin and bear it?
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>>122044749
Pretty soon you're going to find better guns, but for now you have to grin and bear it. Have you gone through Agroprom Underground yet?
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>>122042654
just the starter pack now
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>>122045035
Yeah, and I got the unique AKM/72 but even using that it's pretty frustrating either not hitting what I'm aiming at or having my shots deal tickle damage while I fall over dead If anyone so much as sneezes in my general direction.
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>>122045821
What armor are you using?

>>122045036
Should be fine, and it's better than LURK if it's your first playthrough.
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>>122046102
I'm using merc armour I found near the entrance of agroprom
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>>122046436
Don't engage unless you have good cover.
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