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ms paint edition

Latest Patch: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117109

Previous thread: >>140287681


http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg

>Guide for beginners (STATS/STRATS MAY BE OUTDATED):
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425843240

Memetastic maps by /kfg/:
>KF-Mall http://drive.google.com/file/d/0BywcqXA0Kt4IS3pwMFQ2VVRHZ00/view?pli=1
>KF-ParkingGarage http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187054
>KF-DanceFloor http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-dance-floor-contest
>KF-Fog_Rig http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-fog-rig-contest
>KF-GreenStreet http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-greenstreet-beta
>KF-Antarctic http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-antarctic/
>KF-Nuked http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-nuked-beta

Mods n shit:
>Anon's weapon skins and modded Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!axEgHD7L!7d-vuxYC5SBMmADi6cMjlA
>Engraveless 1911 skin
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/skins/143388
>Anon's guide to modding sounds
http://pastebin.com/UTnM0yb8

>Useful console commands for testing or goofing around:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=424641626

>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc:
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/

>Grind map for gaining xp fast:
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635

>Mapping/modding help, Bugs, Tweaks, Downloads, and extra stuff:
http://pastebin.com/w5jdaGVn

>How to join servers via the console
1. Press F3 or ~
2. type "open" then the IP address. if the server is passworded you append that with "?password=blahblah"
3. example: open 127.0.0.1:23020?password=cocaine
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1st for couldn't even link to here from the old thread because it fucking died
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Reposting from ded thread.
>yfw welding is useful

So, I've finished it.
http://expirebox.com/download/12ebe473c59ee3ad18a9dda813a11b4f.html

It's very small and is focused on two things:
1) The smoke. Map consists of 4 rooms and corridors between them (excluding 8 ways for zeds to come, 4 of which are behind the doors).

At any moment there is only one room that is not filled with smoke. Every few minutes it switches to one of the 2 closest rooms. 10 seconds before smoke will start appearing, yellow strobe lights turn on.

Red lamp above one of the exits will turn green, that's a sign that corresponding room is clear now.

The smoke is very thick, and if you will not move, you will be at a huge disadvantage.

When boss spawns, all smoke is removed.

2) Welding is... Well, from what I've seen, it is extremely useful. Each room has 3 ways for zeds to approach, and if you will weld the door, it will turn into only 2.

First, the doors have around 2 billions health. I'm not sure if it's possible to exhaust all that health in a single game without intention.

Second, its maximum "weld" hp is 2500 instead of regular 1500.

There are only 4 doors, and if zeds (or players) will break one, it's gone forever, so try to unweld them before you move to the other room.

I've added air shafts above all doors so you can nade things on the other side, just destroy its cover with your gun. On BOTH sides, preferably. Molotovs and C4 (unless it was planted behind the door before it was welded) works pretty bad.

Using air shafts you can kill almost all trash behind the door before unwelding it, it's pretty consistent. Scrakes and fleshpounds do not spawn there.
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>>140617405
Oh, it was authorized on moddb, you can also download it from here.
http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-letstrygas
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I am also going to repost this in here:

My microsoft trader mod is ready for you guys: https://mega.nz/#!Oglz3C4I!P7fx5Eyk0ozE-JIJC4I52Ev3gqjHMoZ32FL-f0oUl4Q

Video if you haven't seen this before:https://youtu.be/CVJjaF4Vkik

Enjoy
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xth for healslut
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>>140616951
Great pic.
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>>140617846
the mod i never knew i needed
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>>140618254
well maybe you should've made the thread instead of bitching at the guy who actually went out of his way to make one, faggot
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Team!
Anime!
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honestly sad DBS is mostly irrelevant now
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>>140618526
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>>140618526
Demolitions guy here!
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>>140618727
DBS is still a great weapon for clearing spread out crowds and being arguably the top tier 2 weapon until SS comes out and crossbow is under its ownage, especially for its weight.
Feels shit that it takes more altfires to the head to fuck up a scrake though, especially with how close you need to be with this weapon to reach its full potential, at least sirens and husks can still be one shotted with both barrels.
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>>140618526
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>>140618526
ANIME IS SHIT!

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
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>>140621195
The game is shit too.
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>>140621269
You're cute too
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>>140621195
Saber? Are you THAT saber from /dsg/, posting lewd "I WANT TO..." things?
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>>140621761
No, he's Anonymous, don't you see his name, baka?
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>>140622987
I-I am not b-baka.
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>>140618526
>Anime
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Sup Karl Friedrich Gauss.
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>8 Posts in a row
>Nothing but anime cancer

Fuck you all.
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>>140623736
Embrace it, faam
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>>140623736
>tfw tasty anime posts
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At least post lewds if you're gunna post animu.
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>>140624345
you're pretty tasty, wanna erp?
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>>140625561
Kill yourself
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>>140625705
how did you know I love tsundere sissybois?
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>>140625916
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>140626038
Damn right I do
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Who's a good KF2 YTber?
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>>140626320
>KF2 YTber
I can't see anyone being a dedicated vidya maker of it outside of one or two episodes, only so much you can do
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>>140626320
Yoshiro
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>>140626568
Or alternatively any good not outdated KF2 videos?
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>>140626320
GeneralMcbadass
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>>140626836
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>>140626320
Most of the good ones i know haven't been uploading anything recently, they've probably left the game already, or not playing as much.
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>>140626320
What you looking for in these tubers? Info? Pure gameplay?
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>>140626320
ciydro/railgun
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqsMZz8J6ywuUmnSAJiVWA
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>>140627173
Both. Tips would be nice but I can learn from observation.
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>>140626320

I've made 2 meme videos. Does that count?
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>>140626320
jacksepticeye
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>>140626320
ggnowqq
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>>140626320
Sladetator!
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>you will never gently make love to Ana and be careful when taking her virginity
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>>140630117
>implying she isn't a slut
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>>140630634
Ana is pure!
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I need a demo boyslut.
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I think Fleshpounds are more fun to fight than Scrakes
And I don't even main demo
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Did they change hip firing at all since they added gunslinger? Me and my buddy were playing last night leveling stuff up and he commented on how compared to when he last played gunslinger he was shitting the bed and that it seemed less accurate. Though it could be a standard case of him being shit.
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I graduated from Suicidal to HoE the other day and in the few games that I've played it always seems to be

>find the one part of the map where the zeds come from one direction
>put the Zerk up front
>he spams M1 while medic heals and demo takes out clusters

Are there any maps where this isn't a viable tactic, or any servers where this is discouraged? If people are into that I don't wanna ruin their game by running off, but it's so boring to me.
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>>140618526
Team EU is canonically the strongest team and were the first to conquer v1 HoE

1. Team EU
2. Team Anime

POWER GAP

3. Team NA
4. Meme team
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>>140631347
>And I don't even main demo
>Implying you can kill anything but cyst as demo
C'mon, you are not Megumin dude
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>>140631728
no
even /kfg/ does it
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>>140631728
Evacpoint
Biolabs
Paris
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>>140631846
Demo STRONG, FUCK THAT MEGUMIN POSTER
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>>140631728
Outpost, Paris, Evacpoint, Biolabs and arguably Voltermanor are all maps that can't be zerked but are at least forgiving with the areas you can use.
Rest are victims to being zerkwall territory
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how come i keep seeing all these fucking zerks using the zweihander? isn't the pulv better?
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>>140631846
The fucks that got to do with anything?
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>>140632295
That megumin poster is obviously corrupted by something. After we've discovered our way to consistently proc nukes in zed time, we're stronger than ever.
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>>140631846
>>140632295
>both demo sissies are here
awww yea
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>>140632528
Same reason a lot of firebugs use the flamethrower on the boss. They're retarded and delusional.
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>>140632846
Don't sexualize demo mains, they're pure and proud
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>>140633751
>Inb4 lewd megumin art from demo hater
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>>140634153
I want to fuck scully!
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>>140634395
We know, foster
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>>140634676
Relax, mate, I'm just here to fuck you.
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>>140634395
>>140634676
>>140635020
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>>140623736
still not as bad are pre-I&D
we're getting close though
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>gays and fujos are back
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>>140634043
Demo hater?

You have me all wrong friend. I love playing demo. The only reason I don't play him more often is because there's usually always one on the server already

I just post attention grabbing images so people will pay attention to my posts
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>>140636019
Post Dosh or fuck off
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>>140636019
You're doing a good job
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>>140633751
Damn straight
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>still no sweet demo boipucci posted
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Demos are fucking worthless and should die.
Every time I see someone pick demo on my team I go out of my way to not give them any money and try to get them killed.
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>>140636729
TSUNDERE
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>>140637379

Just tsuntsun.
The Crossbow is better than anything a Demo can bring to the table.
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>>140618526

Team Anime will always be my one and only UNITS CHARGE
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>Rusty Shackleford just caught a ban

Alright the laughter stops now what the fuck is going on?
When Bigguns was banned it as hilarious, but this is getting out of hand now. Yoshiro has become unhinged.

SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG
SHUT IT DOWN
SHUT IT DOWN
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Fanfire or Uber Ammo?
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>>140640534

Funfire
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>>140639695
>Salty shitterford banned

Haha, YEEESSSSS
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>>140640723

What manz?
He's alright though, he's not bad.
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>>140640843
No he's a complete tool

I only ever played one game with him on prison and he insisted on zerk walling the tower
Out of a team of six I was the only one who opted to stay in the courtyard. Things were going fine until their wall broke and Rusty was the only one to end up dying. He get super pissed and started insulting the medic and blaming him for everything.

I then told him he'd be better off not using cheesy spots like the tower. Then he started hurling insults my way too.

This is the same guy the endlessly posted on the community forums about how zerk walling was the games biggest problem. He's bad at the game and a whiny over reactive hypocrite
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>>140637736
Not like demo is as OP as gunslinger/firebug, but this objectively wrong. Demo can save your whole crew in a tough situation with a few good nukes on HoE, yes, he needs to be a bit lucky, but nobody else can do that.
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>>140641408
>but nobody else can do that.
Except Firebug
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>>140641530
Even firebug can't do that such effectively, and he can only clear 1 direction.
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>>140641383
If it was HoE than zerkwalling is the only answer, fuck that pinball kiting.
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>>140641383

Yeah fair enough, I guess your personal experience in-game trumps what I know of him (not being sarcastic).

I've never played with him, and he does actually believe some dumb shit like nuke needs to be nerfed even more.

Honestly, I only liked him because I enjoyed teaming up with him to roast faggots on the forums. I will miss him for that at least. Shit, all these people getting banned even I'm kind of feeling the heat.
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>>140641383
Abusing what is broken is usually the best way to be heard from the developers and have it fixed. The problem here is and has always been Tripwire outstanding deafness to core problems.

For the same reason, you should never ever play a perk that requires aiming in PvP.
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>>140641383
He was fine at the game.

Be nice, anon.
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>>140643239
Me on the left
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>>140643239
Come back and play
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>>140641383
shut up white bitch
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>>140631728
Why is this tactic so common? Is it because of ammo issues or because it's way easier to die using other tactics?
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>>140645214

Both.
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>>140643239
>Playing with animes
He was shit
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Is there anyone here who could make webm or youtube video how to properly use Microwave tap fire now? I think I'm missing it and seeing when to tap by animation would help.
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>>140645214
>>140645279

Yeah pretty much.
I was actually talking about it a while back with another /kfg/ anon, and he asked me what I thought and I said, well, I don't approve of Zerkwalling because I think it's lame and boring, but at the end of the day, the players are just using the best tools TW gave them. TW are the ones who are ultimately to blame for this fucked mess.
The player may be a scrub, but don't hate the player, hate the game.
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>>140645546

I don't blame anyone for using it on HoE.
I'd rather zerkwall or play Firebug than be thrown around because of fucking knockback.
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I don't know any of you circlejerkfags, so please introduce yourselves.
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>>140645546
Word nigga.

It feels like the Scrakes and Fleshpounds are unbeatable without Zerkers and Firebugs. Life as a Commando main is rough.
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>>140645918
I'm anon
I meme about anime because this game will never release
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>>140645918
I'm meguminslut
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>>140645279
>>140645546
I was thinking that they should increase the max ammo cap for weapons, I get the impression that players do a lot of silly shit to conserve ammo which results in them taking unnecessary damage and ultimately dying. I'm fine with scrakes and FPs being hard to take down but they take so much ammo to take down that you barely have anything left for other enemies.
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>>140645918

I'm that guy with a big mouth and a big attitude, but I spit hot truth and my HOE game is tight so you enjoy my company anyway.
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>>140643239
>225 kills as zerk in the final wave of HoE
>Outplayed by a medic in kills
>Outplayed by HEALSLUT in kills

What a hero
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>>140633123
Is there ever a reason to use the flamethrower at all? I haven't touched it since the week FB came out
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>>140576919
>>Leadership actually applies to the commando using it as well as teammates
>Neat
>>140587097
>Source?

Use "showdebug weapon" in console and try it with Leadership, then "restartlevel" and try with Call Out.
A lot of info will show up in the top left so you might want to toggle the hud with "showhud"
Leadership's 10% doesn't work in Trader time or if you use SomeTestMap (probably if you switched between Call Out and Leadership between waves.)
The "Timer ReloadAmmoTimer" is how long it takes the animation to register a reload so you can weapon bash or switch weapons to cancel the rest.
The "Timer ReloadStatusTimer" is how long the full animation is with no interuptions.
Like Tenacity 10% damage for Support, 10% faster reload isn't very noticeable but at least it does work with commando's weapons.
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>>140646104
>Can kill Scrakes and Fleshpounds without taking any damage as Gunslinger with Crossbow
>There's always that one Berzker that runs to everything smacking Pulv on them
Life is hard
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>>140646471

That was in the days when Berserker was trash.
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>>140646257

Uh huh.
TW have a habit of fixing what isn't broken.
The AK12, an $1100 gun, carries less ammo than a $650 Bullpup, ever since the I&D update.

Why?
Because TW said
>Hey, Commando is our dedicated trash killer, he needs to be able to kill hundreds of Zeds every game
>How could we help him do that better?
>I KNOW LET'S CUT HIS AMMO AND FUCK HIS T3, THAT'LL BE A BIG HELP
>Gee guys, people aren't playing Commando as much anymore, what happened?

It's a company of fucking retards.
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>>140645918
I'm a huge faggot
Please rape my face
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>>140646653
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>>140646689
I'm pretty sure this is because they balance the game around lower difficulties, there's no way they could play above hard and not see the issues affecting the game.

I'm one of those people who used play commando and I stopped once gunslinger came out. GS is just so much more useful at all stages of the game that I find it hard to justify going back to commando in its current nerfed state. I don't expect TW to buff it to the point that you can easily solo FPs and scrakes but they didn't need to make a dedicated trash clearer even worse than other perks which can clear trash as well as deal a lot of damage to FPs and scrakes.

I just think it's hilarious that the game is a year old and some of the issues from launch are still present because they either don't listen or they don't understand the game's problems.
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Speaking of difficulty

>looking through servers
>normal and hard servers everywhere
>very few suicidal servers

That explains a lot.
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>>140646104
Roles need to be made apparent, as of now its such an awkward mess.
Dedicated big guy killers should be: Zerk, Demo, SS, Support and Slinger
Firebug, Mando, MA and SWAT should focus on breathing room for the team, all the while the ones above keep the big guys attention on them so thrash clearers don't get a chainsaw in the back when picking off a siren.
Medic is medic, glues the team.

The thing is zerk is given a larger damage bonus all round naturally, which is understandable but everyone else? Nope. I mean look at support for example, remember when 3 DBS altfires to the face could deal with the screk when you had 50% damage bonus? Now at 25%, the risks not worth the reward it once was, especially with so many shells you get. Demo gets the same issue, so few shots, not much power to make up for it. There needs to be at least a half split imo.
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Are there any combos for taking out HoE FPs/Scrakes without taking any damage as a Zerker?
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>>140646471
It happens.

>>140646663
Zerk should always have the most kills if they're zerkwalling with a pocket medic.
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>>140650613
PLEASE PLAY WITH US AGAIN
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>>140650807
Invite me to things if you want to play with me, silly.
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>>140646480
Flamethrower is firebugs best trash clearing weapon. Shit for big zeds but it's way more ammo efficient than the MWG.
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>>140649952

1. Stand still
2. Hard hit it with the Pulverizer
3. Hope it gets stunlocked and doesn't attack you at all.
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>>140646689
>The AK12, an $1100 gun, carries less ammo than a $650 Bullpup, ever since the I&D update.
that was true before, too, they both used to have more
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My drops have only been Tactical USB 4 or 5 times in a row now. Is getting the new ones based on perk?
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>>140652480
I tried it out and that's a perfect description
I think I prefer it to the microwave gun but I almost feel like I'm forced to use the MVG because so few perks are good at taking down big zeds.
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>>140655951
That's how I feel too. The flamethrower is more fun and more effective for what firebug is supposed to do but if I don't take the MWG I feel like my team is always struggling with scrakes since most pubs are shitters who can't handle large zeds. It's a bad feel
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>>140649952
Leave Scrakes to others with Bowgun. Wait for stun on FP and start pummeling with Pulvi.
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>>140649952
Well here's your options

For scrake
EMP and shoot 5 evis blades
https://youtu.be/wNTF7cGW8fo?t=58
Nailgun menace stun
https://youtu.be/de45bBnVlo0?t=188
and
Crossbow chain-stun the scrake

For FPs
Loaded pulv, bash head, reload, then finish it off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY3wobgxkY
Alternate between evis blades and gas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPrIJmBI6z8
and
Crossbow 3 times and finish with empty pulv
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>>140652479
post boipucci
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>>140657262
>crossbow puts EMPs to shame
The power of SS in our unknowing hands..
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Is the microwave gun still best used tap-fired?

I haven't played in a few months.
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>>140660950
yes
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>>140660950
Yes, still tap, but slower, now, let each one finish.
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>>140658534
>that spelling
Every time I read it as "boy poochie"

Nobody spells it pucci
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>>140649952
Am I the only one in this game who understand how to zerk lmao
>back up when he goes for unparryable attacks
>parry normal attacks
oh and for fucks sake, use the alternative bash to get out of bad spots. it does less damage but 100% knockdown to head, I've seen like 2 zerkers in over 500 hours that use this.
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>>140664972
what always blows my mind is when im playing sui and rarely hoe i see level 25s completely be shit and understand nothing of the perk theyre playing

like why the fuck as a zerk would you start m2 hammering the back of a scrake when there's a gunslinger setting up to decap it? all youre going to do is fuck him up and youll be dealing with a raging scrake if the slinger cant save himself
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>>140626320
I typically stream Killing Floor 2 every week if not every day, I'm not the best but I'm always playing this shit fest. I'm not that hard to find and I plan on streaming later. Loved the first one, second one...its okay. I tend to suffer in pubs or play with friends from time to time.
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>>140647372
The cherry on top is the Commando doesn't even have fucking nightvision anymore.

It was already a meme item given the hilarious 15 second battery life, but then they actually take it away? Good shit, Tripwire. Maybe you can sell it back to me as a microtransaction.
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>>140667902
I just realized you said youtuber, I mainly do twitch. Twitch KF2 scene is abysmally dead. Just like the game ;) ZING, I kid. I'm sure you guys have played with me before.
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>>140668146

>The cherry on top is the Commando doesn't even have fucking nightvision anymore.
1. Night vision is fucking trash, why would you ever want to use it?
2. Regardless of whatever reason you have to want to use it, a flashlight lasts twice as long an does the same job but better.
3. You still have night vision, you just gotta HOLD F instead of tapping it once.
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>>140668372
Damn I feel stupid. But how is it trash? You can see great, especially in really dark areas when the flashlight beam is very disorienting in a mad rush of zeds.
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>>140668792
none of the maps except catacombs get dark enough that you need a flashlight
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>>140668792

>how is it trash?
The aforementioned double battery drain is one reason.
The other reasons being the flashlight does practically the same thing but also illuminates the area for your teammates, not just you.
Night vision also adds scan lines and depth of field effects for no good reason, and if you're trying to see shit then that's not exactly stellar.
The only time a flashlight is worse than night vision is in zed time on a bright map where the bloom makes it impossible to see, but chances are you wouldn't see shit then with or without a flashlight. Not like night vision is much better in zed time either for that matter.
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>>140639695
>>140640843
Hahahaha he is a baby, played a hoe game and give money to our medic, he threw a bitch fit because we didn't give him money to buy a scar. A FUCKING SCAR. That was a good laugh.
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I find that the contrast of the flashlight mostly just makes it even harder to see stuff in the non-illuminated 70% of the screen

if my computer weren't too potato to keep fps decent with nightvision, I might like it
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L E L
What's that spell?
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>>140669426

>bans getting handed out like candy
Is Tripwire getting desperate?
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>>140669426
how do I cash in on a ban?
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>>140670657

I just wrote a fucking cheeky review about the mods.
Let's see what happens to me.
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>wonder why I never play demo
>play it
>the first real weapon is $1100

god dammit trip wire is retarded
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>>140671265

>demo
>having any real weapons at all
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>>140671265

No, the first real weapon is $1500.
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>>140641782
this was before the knockback, and even with knockback it's not too hard to finish HoE without zerkwalling.
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>>140671265
>M79
>Real weapon
more like real SHIT LMAO
>>140671323
at least the RPG is okay
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I can't do it
I can't play demo
That perk is just so unsatisfying to play and it's been this way since it came out
What a waste of time
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>>140635748
the degenerates are starting to come back to the thread, so I'd say we're already there.
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>>140664972
you must play with a lot of bad players because using the bash to knock down is pretty standard when I use zerk, and play with other competent zerks.
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>>140664972
Alternative bash?
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Does anyone have that "what class you should play? image?
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>>140676881
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>>140677228
>support
>not a trash class
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Are there for sure ways to solo FPs yet?

I've been gone awhile

Best you could get back when I played last was parrying with pulverizer
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>>140677667
But you're still good as a ammo backpack on legs! REBUFF SUPPORT TW! REEE
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>>140677228
>Do you want to kill big Zeds?
>Support
Oh how the times have changed. We need a new one.
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>>140677228
how come firebug isn't in the ranged section
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Fuse, or Heat Wave?

Does Heat Wave work on big zeds?
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>>140678092
Support is a trash killing class. The only time a support should be shooting sc's or fp's is with an ak12 after emp or to clear trash behind them with aa12.
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>>140679338

Heat Wave will fuck up even a boss.
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>>140679451
Support is supposed to use AK? Guess I've been doing it wrong
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What's the console command to check how much HP the zeds have left without enabling cheats or having a commando tell me?
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>>140679890
Not supposed to, but it can work. People think support is shit because it can't solo boss zeds with aa12 like in kf1, it's a trash killing class now. AK is good for killing distant trash and husks or sirens as well as helping decap SC's during emp.
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>>140677873
There's so many options with Xbow around.
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Alright, I get aiming at the feet with caulk n burn and microwave gun. But should I also aim for the feet with the trench gun?

Should I even buy the trench gun?
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Who here main commando? Here's how my rounds usually go: 1-4, refill armor, rifle ammo, some pistol mags and grenades as needed. Wave 5-ish, buy SCAR. Near boss, buy med weapon with as much dosh as can get.

Repeat for every game, forever. I mean I love the LA-85 and AK, but don't buy them unless I join a game in progress or have some extremely shitty luck and need a weapon. Is there any reason not to just rush the SCAR?

Shit is boring as fuck, maybe I should try another class.
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>>140681954
>Should I even buy the trench gun?
No.
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>>140682101
So just stick with caulk n burn?

I mean, it's really effective but that seems odd.
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>>140682058
>my rounds usually go: 1-4, refill armor
The fuck are you doing mate
>rifle ammo
Use backup
>grenades
Why?
>Wave 5-ish, buy SCAR
You should have AK + SCAR by now
>Near boss, buy med weapon
You mean medic pistol?
>Is there any reason not to just rush the SCAR
If you can buy AK, go for it first, it's great for killing thrash, stealing all the kills and getting dosh for SCAR.
>Shit is boring as fuck, maybe I should try another class.
Best class is that which you have the most fun with.
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>>140682243
If you're high level, it's enough for thrash.

And if there's a capable player for dealing with SC/FP, try to safe microwave for when you really need it, and make space for him and deal with thrash.

With Xbow in game, the old "everybody shoot SC/FP" is dragging team down when one guy can do it by himself fast and everybody else should just create space for him.
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>>140679338
Heat wave has so much utility I would argue it's the best skill for Firebug. As long as you have ammo, it's pretty much impossible for trash to kill you since you'll be knocking them back whenever they're about to hit you. I feel like the flamethrower weapons should come with that effect by default, because it feels so wrong without it.
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>>140682932
>it's the best skill for Firebug
no
it's the best skill period
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>>140682058
>"rushes" SCAR while buying grenades and armor
>doesn't buy SA80 or AK12 after SCAR for dual ammo sources
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Am I the only one who finds lar for support to be a bad option? It's just way too inconsistent for its 6 weight and as i understand even emping a scrake already prevents you from stunning it. So it's really might be a good option only if you don't have a zerk and somebody with crossbow (which is the best option for medic and funslinger). To be honest I don't remember any games i played without these classes.

Scar and nailgun are better.

Nailgun oneshots crawlers with just one nail and instantly kills gorefasts with headshots, and oneshots them to the chest in shotty mode.
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>>140687086
>and as i understand even emping a scrake already prevents you from stunning it
yep, any damage
sucks
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>>140681006
What do you mean? I just went 10 rounds with a support bro who was burning scrakes and fps down with the AA-12. They die in like 5 shots.
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Guys I have two questions.

Does the Poison resist skill of Berserker work against Hans' gas?

Do the knockback skills of Support, Berserker and Commando work for Patty and Hans?
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>>140688958
yes
yes
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>>140640843
from what i've seen rusty is literally a trash tier player that only knows the basics
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sustain me
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When are they going to add that prestige system people were speculating about?
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>>140691364
When they run out of other unimportant shit to add instead of the perks, like pvp mode.
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>Demo Foster nukes himself with a On Contact dynamite on a cloaked Stalker
Foster going from his thrilled "Ahha ha haha haa!" laughter to his shrill ear piercing scream is fucking hilarious

Bonus points for everyone taking minimal fall damage during the silence of trader time (eg Outpost) and Foster is the one to cry like a bitch out of all of them
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The new explosion SFX suck and lack of lingering smoke sucks. I miss the earrape of a 5-strong pipehat going off and the lingering air of devastation.
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>>140693114
Which reminds me, is it possible to make a soundmod that gives Foster his original voice lines back? I don't mind a perfectly clear voice through his gasmask, what I do mind is when he's near silent and muffled when everyone is already quiet enough.
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>>140693246
If by original voice lines, you mean removing the filter, it can probably be done.
I believe they placed some sort of filter over his voice, creating that effect. This similar to the trader, and it persists even in my trader mod. I'm using files exported straight from speakonia, yet they still have that effect. It may be possible to remove, but no guarantees if it doesn't clash with the game somehow.
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So does explosive resistance only absorb damage from stuff like patty rockets? Or is it for all types of damage from zeds?
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>>140693246
What I don't understand is why they changed his voice at all.
Other characters can wear masks but they didn't get a muffled filter.
The round starting sound was also a lot deeper and sounded better than what we got now.
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>>140693668
Oh, so it's potentially an automatic filter, and not that they edited all of his files. Well, I guess that's good. We don't have to go digging a shitload of files up. But we do need to work out how to remove a filter...

>>140693759
I would have been happy if they did add the filter but increased the volume. All of the characters could use a small volume buff. It makes no sense and doesn't bode well in gameplay when Masterson's "SOMEONE GIVE ME A HAND!" is the same volume as his Insult Zed lines where he mumbles under his breath. "Damn clotsuckers..."
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>>140693750
Hans grenades, patty rockets, your own grenades and explosives, your teammates from their own grenades/explosives and maybe husk suicide. If you're playing demo seriously on boss wave you're doing wrong, if you're trying to walk near people who are about to get allahu akbar'd you're doing it wrong. If your team is getting killed by grenades, well, you should probably pick a perk that can kill clots that are raping them without wasting ammo you need for big guys.
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How do we firefucks deal with husks? Just magdump 9mm in the head?
Why can't I just ignore those fuckers like I did in kf1? They don't kill firebug instantly like they do with other perks, but the damage is significant anyway.
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>>140695074
Run away and hope somebody else kills it
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>>140695074
I used to take the Trenchgun for Husks and other jazz early into a game. Ultimately though that's for lower difficulty fuck about.
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>>140695074
Knife it, 2 sometimes 3 strong slashing overheads will decap and the first one knocks it back for easy follow up.
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>you get the same XP as they do for the kills
What does it actually mean? Call out skill
Do I get XP from the stalkers that are killed by teammates or what?
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>>140696495
The eXPerience of them killing the stalker, the memory, the horror, the satisfaction, whatever it is they eXPerience when they kill the stalker. This becomes one with your mind, for indeed there will be a day in which you become lucid, lucid to the reality of the mass purging you have caused. That is the purpose of callout.
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>>140679451
>AK12
Why didn't you just say you didn't want to be taken seriously?
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>>140680136
Hi Jumbo. It's

getall kfpawn_zed(zed name) health

Ex:
getall kfpawn_zedpatriarch health
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>>140682058
>waves 1-4
>refill armor
>refill AR-15 ammo
>buy nades

The fuck you doin m8? Your dosh economy is shit.

Wave 1: Knife only with backup, don't be a little bitch
Wave 2: Knife, AR-15, and pistol
Wave 3: Sell AR-15, Buy SA80, empty pistol and SA80
Wave 4: Sell SA80, Buy SCAR with full ammo, save for xbow or AK-12 if you don't have the money for them
Wave 5: Should have SCAR and Xbow/AK-12, save for med pistol or deagle

It's that simple. Should actually be able to skip the Bullpup phase since the +10% dosh patch.
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>>140678838

Because arm's reach doesn't exactly count as ranged weaponry.
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>>140697828
>don't be a little bitch
But if he didn't want that, he'd play something which isn't afraid to fight up close
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>>140698240
>commando
>afraid of something
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>>140698321
Yes? That was the implication
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>>140698714
I bet you call people who make a few steps back to simply not die cowards.

I have a bad news. You're one of them.
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>>140698824

>Giving the Fascists even one step

NOT ONE STEP BACK
STAY IN NORMAL SHITTER
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What do you keep in your favourites, /kfg/?

>SG-500
>LAR
>Medpistol
>1911
>Deagle
>C4
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>>140699002

I actually don't use the Favourites in KF2.
Which is weird because it was my main squeeze in KF1.
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>>140698970
>he literally can't get past wave 2 on HoE
>calling other people shitters
wow you are bad
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>>140698824
There's a difference between using the area to your advantage in a fight and hiding behind your team because you're afraid of getting scratched, bitchboy.
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>>140698240
>He can't knife only on wave fucking 1 with any class
Tell me a tale of your adventures on normal my child.

P.S. Your dosh economy is shit. SHIIIIIIIIIIT.
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>>140698970

>he fell for the bolshevism meme
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>>140699204

This.
This nigga knows what's up.
Knives only on Wave 1 is the only way to play it if you have any self-respect.

>B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but I'm not playing a perk with good bonuses for that-

Literally (literally [literally {lit.}]) get gud.
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>>140699410
might as well spawn as berserker then until you have 1500+ dosh and switch to the perk you actually wanted to play.
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>>140699130
>commando
>hiding
>afraid
I'm fine as long as you keep sucking my dick, boi. You're doing it pretty good. So let me hide my benis in your throat, it is afraid of getting scratched.
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>>140699539

>Not enjoying the intense thrill of knives only with 100HP and no move speed

MEMORIES BROKEN
THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN
I'VE EVEN
FORGOTTEN
MY NAM
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>>140699604
>implying i'm not using the knife and vampire as zerk.
>implying commando's +50% passive HP is even a choice
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>>140699539

He's either unironically enjoying playing with a cactus up his ass or is just pulling the classic le get good meme. Don't take him seriously either way.
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>>140699550
this

good commandos will solo areas. it's my favorite part of playing commando
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>>140699550
>afraid
>job is to pick off the equivalent of retarded children
>from a distance
You keep saying that, meanwhile EVERYONE else will fight the tough guys like men
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>>140699695

>Using the fruitboy's regen
>Implying you didn't choose that +50 just by spawning in as Commando

I DON'T KNOW THE SEASON
OR WHAT IS THE REASON
I'M STANDING HERE
HOLDING MY
BLADE
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>>140699989

Incroyable et Magnifique
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>>140699834
>implying i'm not soloing scrakes
>implying i care who is killing fleshpounds
>implying i'm afraid of fleshpounds

>>140699720
You must be absolutely retarded to have any problems at first waves on HoE as knife/9mm only commando, if you need to pick 25 lvl zerk/firebug to be able to not fuck up it is definitely your problem.
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>>140699989
Best feel
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>>140700123
ehh, stop being elitist. I've played on hillside as commando using only pistol for a while, and it took me a while to become decent. After the recent zed speed increase it's getting very difficult on that map, seeing as you can't kite.
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>>140700123

>You must be absolutely retarded to have any problems at first waves on HoE as knife/9mm only commando
Actually, you fucking casual, I go Demo and only use the welder to cause door explosions.
Enjoy your puny amounts of damage while I kill dozens of zeds at a time.
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>>140699834
I FEAR NOTHING
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>>140700123
I've never had ammo or money problems just using 9mm/AR-15 wave 1, if I wanted to use melee i'd play berserker.
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>>140700234
>April 14: Using the new live update system modified Game Conductor settings to no longer give additional increased movement speed to zeds in Hell On Earth difficulty when the players are performing well.

>>140700267
>Not bashing everything to death with a syringe all game.
You're doing it wrong senpai.
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>>140700234

>stop being elitist

You're on fucking /kfg/ are you serious?
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>>140700531

>bashing everything to death with a syringe all game.
It is in fact you who are doing it wrong, after all you're using DIRECT damage. Welded door explosions is the true patriarch's way of dealing with zeds, since you don't actually have to do any damage yourself.
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>>140700531
That was misleading. Read this.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117465
They removed the increase in speed for IF YOU'RE DOING WELL.
They however, kept the "base" speed increase.
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>>140700845
What is it like? 5%? :^)
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>>140700898
Nope. 32%
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>>140700898
>>140700983
Oops, forgot the :^)
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>>140700845
>Refuse to tweak support and demo "numbers" to address balancing issues
>Tweak speed to change game balance

I had no idea Yoshiro was promoted to a game coder in charge of balance.
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>>140701326
To be fair, i doubt Yoshiro does anything significant to the balance, it's just the designer's choice. He's just relaying the info to us.

I feel sorry for Yoshiro sometimes, this community isn't the nicest.
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>>140701875

True, he may be an odious individual, but being the public face for critique when other people fuck up is no easy job.
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>>140682058
I used to main commando

The only reason it was my main thing in KF1 was due to the huge variety of rifles he could use along with how satisfying the sounds were.
KF2 fills neither of those desires. Also with the introduction of firebug, commando is no longer the king of trash clearance and has to work much harder than fb to even keep up.

This means commando has literally 0 purpose in a match or anything that makes him distinct other than ranged engagement. He's already getting outclassed by the existence of sharpshooter weapons, let alone sharpshooter himself.

Commando has always had a hard life and I'd be hard pressed myself to come up with a way in which he can be unique or useful. Zed time extensions are neat and have gotten a lot easier since the new bullet speed increase but that's not enough of a reason to fill up a player slot
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>>140703015
I guess it's just opinion then, i'm happy with KF2's rifles and sounds.
though i do agree with you on him not being unique, slinger is basically a better version of mando in many ways.
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>>140703197
In my opinion commando outclasses GS in terms of trash clearance due to deeper mags and quicker reload times provided he's using both perks.

More often than not I'll see myself moving ahead of even the best slingers in terms of kills. Maybe because they're busy getting autistic over headshots
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