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Happy Birthday SJ!

>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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Fumi's fumis
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>>82898501
i want to fuck mastema
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>>82898501
congrats SJ.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOyJt1cn9L8

thread music

post space marines
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>>82898910
>Not making the .gif Goblin digging the hole with Space Marine and a Pixie watching
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>>82898501
>>82898790
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>>82898910
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>>82898738
Is there an official US release date for Break Record? I can't wait any longer.
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i should do a crewmember run of SJ someday

has anyone here played with the boss exclusive demons? (jiminez, gore, etc
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>>82898910
Post what you think is best 2D Field/World Map Theme
Here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0JWfE9nEw
>inb4 nocturnebabby

>>82897232
What did it in for me was that you had to keep backtracking from place to place and the dull empty battles, holy shit Nocturne spoiled me with those rad animations.
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>>82899253
Still waiting. Come up here with me, and we'll fly while we wait.

Oh, we'll fly, all right...
No homo
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>>82899073
Is this suppose to be a smiley face?
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>>82899315
Yes. They're not particularly good.
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>>82899337
>Dat Zelenin and Power in the middle of it all
Adorable as fuck.
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would he survive the schwarzwelt
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>>82899536
Would he have a Demonica? Same answer.
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>>82899315
Yes. I even have a full Mother Playthrought.

>>82899386
Yes.

>>82899319
Then drop it, dungeons become even more frustrating later on.
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>Haven't played SJ yet
>Don't get anything in the thread
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>>82899337
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>>82899493
Zelenin is best girl.
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has anyone ever thought of a FPS SMT?

i'm remembering how colorful SJ was and I thought it'd be a really fun place to run around and die in on a shooter.

I can't imagine how summoning or item mechanics would work though. Has anyone ever made an FPS with an emphasis on followers ala pikmin?
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>>82899340
Maybe a lil homo
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>>82899694
You better start asap.

>>82899702
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>>82899823
I've considered making a doom mod for it.
But then I remembered I can't sprite (or do anything artistic) to save my life
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>>82899665
pretty nice g.

did you mitama skills into all of them? if so did you ration the 6 mitamas to one demon or make a new crewmember when necessary?
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>>82900087
When i got them they were level 1, since the base level for them is 75 or so they will level up rather fast so what i did was just give them certain skills and then change them every now and then (Wich meant grind some formas) for bosses or hard enemies.

Gore was phys, Jimenez was Gun/supprt and Zelenin mag/heal.

The mothers work the same too.
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>>82899953
Use the pre-existing sprites? Would probably look like crap though, resized and lacking animations.
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>>82900369
Full list pls?
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Post your favorite Demon, /smtg/
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>>82900602
Could your dick say no to Lucifer?
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>>82900842
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>>82900842
I don't think I can choose a favorite, but out of the ones I like the most Beelzebub is up there.
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>>82900642
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>>82899953
Purely gameplay-focused mods are also an option, you know. There's this awesome Metroid mod for Doom that was made a while back; I played it in combination with this one level mod called Back to Saturn X and it was fucking amazing.
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>>82900842
Can I just take the entire heavenly host?
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>>82900872
Yes, i am ____Law after all.
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>>82901079
10/10.
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>>82900872
i want to fuck old lucy.
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>>82901046
I swear, Nadja and Lillim look an awful lot alike...
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>>82900369
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>>82901091
that looks absolutely amazing

that's definitely doable
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>>82900842
Parvati is my demonfu.
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>>82901048
what the fuck is in his ass
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>>82901596
You don't like your girls well-done?
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>>82901596
agreed
>>82900602
i didn't realize mine was edited, does anyone have the original?
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>>82901323
now that you mention it.

Yeah i suppose Kaneko thought of her when redesigning her.
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>>82901510
It was a most excellent mod. It even had a working Morph Ball mode with bombs and powerbombs, and there were missile combos too. Blowing shit away with a Wavebuster combo never got old. This is the aftermath of firing a couple of Wavebusters on a massive group of enemies.
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>>82901637
thats a fly dick

for depositing

semen
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>>82902050
just put the demon sprites.
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>>82902050
I have the Metroid mod in my backlog right after Knee-Deep in ZDoom, which I'm playing now.
Even after all these years Doom still has a lot to offer.
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hey, is the person ripping SJ textures still here? i wanna ask how that's going
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I want a pair of white hot pants.
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>>82902543
THE DARK SOULS OF PERSONA
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>>82902543
>>82902543
FUCK YOU! FOR BOTHERING ME ABOUT THAT AND REMINDING THAT I PROCRASINATE ALOT, I'M DELETING THEM! I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY FUCKBOY!
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>>82902938
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>>82902938
go away gideon
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>>82902895
Imagine the Persona of Dark Souls
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>>82903397
i think you're onto something here.
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>>82903001
I don't get it
Japanese otaku humor is so strange journey
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>>82903231
>>82903241
FUCK OFF! YOU'RE PUSHING MY BUTTONS! ANYMORE AND I'LL DELETE THE REST OF MY PROJECTS AND IT'LL BE ALL YOUR FAULTS NIGGERS!
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>>82903397
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>>82903463
i don't get it either anon
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Anyone has some batshit overpowered demon recipes to share for SMTIV?
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>>82902362
I'm liking that HUD.

>>82902412
I've yet to play Knee-deep in ZDoom, but I've heard good things about it. In fact, I have a lot of Doom mods to catch up on...I only recently played Plutonia. Was blown away at how good it was.
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>>82900369
>>82900602
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>>82901401
>>82901863
>>82903001
Need more of these!
Where's the rest?!
Link if you have it.

>>82903543
How does it happen when you choose "Proceed"?
Also, that pic is awesome.

>>82903668
>What I wouldn't give to see a group of cosplayers as Jack's Squad, complete with Black Demonicas.

>>82903715
Barong + Rangda
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>>82903785
sorry anon, I got all these comics from /smtg/
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>>82904001
Least you saved em. Thanks.
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>>82901401
>aren't you going to eat hamburgers
My sides
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>>82904190
Why yes, your sides look delicious...
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>>82904001
fun/10
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>Having a demon waifu
I hope you guys haven't fallen so low. That includes you Anthony.
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>>82904435
Need more lewds of Isabeau like this. Saved.
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>>82904435
>Not having Hua Po as your waifu.
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>>82904435
>not having a demon waifu
You aren't ready
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>>82904520
SUP.
I AM HUA PO.
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>>82904517
Everyone does.

>>82904520
>>82904682
At least they're neutral.
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WAIT A SECOND, WHERE'S MIRAI ANON?
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>>82904845
Be quiet Thomas.
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>>82904845
RIP in peace.
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>>82904845
On a Strange Journey, no doubt.
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Moh Shuvuu is mai demonfu
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>>82904960
>Being a lolicon
Inexcusable, even Moh Shuvuu thinks so.
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>>82904960
Great taste, even better since she's Law.
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>>82904960
Should we sexualize the Moh Shuvvu?
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>>82904520
hell yeah
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>>82905316
Where do you guys even get those pics from?
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Don't mind me, just grinding in Yoyogi Park, FocusShotting all these Titanias before they even spawn as reinforcements.
Have Focus up before taking out the wave, Titanias in the next wave, Divine One-Shot, auto the rest unless they're Oberon. Profit
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>>82905408
Wait, she's that small? I thought she was bigger.
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>tfw dinsey buys atlus
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>>82905536

she's about the size of a pixie as I remember.
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Do we know why SM IV was delayed so long in Europe? Shits pretty ridiculous, glad I'm american.
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>>82905134
>lawfags are lolicon
Not even remotely surprised.
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>>82905536
She is bigger, way bigger, she has the size of a child.
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>>82905640
Nobody cares about Europe.
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>>82905667
"she is the size of a child"
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>>82905512
I got it from some faggot Persona thread on /v/, only good thing that came out of it.
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>>82905646
Does that mean chaosfags like milfs? I'm fine with that.
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>>82905810
Dude what about us Neutrals?
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>>82905883
They like men. They're always babbling on about it.
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>>82905810
yes.
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>>82905883
How can you claim to be neutral when you clearly have an opinion that leans one way or the other?
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>>82905810
No, we manly chaos man like the smell and taste of the law boypussi.
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>>82906171
That's the glory of Chaos, freedom! I'll take my mother goddess milfs, and you can go and ravage lawful boypussy.
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>>82906395
thats a man.
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>>82906550
I dont see a dick here.
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>>82906550
That's exactly what chaosfags like, sweaty and violent men.
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>>82906550
Demon forms are malleable. She's all goddess now, don't be such a prude.

>>82906775
>sweaty and violent man
Sounds a lot like YHVH.
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>>82907167
>Implying a floating head has a gender
>Implying he is violent and not 100% rational
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>>82907359

>chaosfags accusing the strongest entity of being violent despite their whole ideology is about strong people having the right to do violence.
>Yhvh only does just enough violence to make the peace we know today last forever anyways.
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>>82905810
>Does that mean chaosfags like milfs?
at least in SJ
which has the only chaos ending that i liked anyway
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>>82907359
YHVH is referred as a "he" abbunch of times
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>>82907359
>Always referred to in the masculine
>Kneejerk reaction to worshiping the "wrong" gods is genocide
>Satan says maybe genocide is overboard
>"Insolent worm! Feel the wrath of my divine lightning and plummet into the bowels of hell, burning in its unending flames! Demons! Evil humans, who hath sold thy souls to demons!
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Im gonna change this rotten world.
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>>82907917
I'm gonna erase this rotten world.
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>>82907167
I need more sexy pics of Asherah
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>>82907912

>The bad version of him is his standard qualities.
>canonically stated to not be his own fault.
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>>82907912
yhvh is gender fluid
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>>82907731
Lucifer in his true, twelve-winged form is the strongest entity according to Kaneko.
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>>82902938
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>>82908027
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>>82907858

>Liked SJs chaos ending.
>Lets all sit around punching eachother in a forest and piling up bodies in pools of blood next to our altar. We apparently don't even have enough health knowledge to know we're giving ourselves disease.
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>>82908093

He never said that. He just said that he does indeed have a stronger 12 winged secret form.

Which IV kind of contradicts as he said his alien matador form is his "truest" form, lmao.
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>>82908203
>Worrying about disease
>When literal gods and goddesses are nearby to provide for you
And no, they wouldn't let their worshipers suffer and die. They look after their own, humans are great sources of strength.
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>>82908203
in a wurld of str you punch diseases in the dick.
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>>82908376

>And no, they wouldn't let their worshipers suffer and die.
>They look after their own
>Chaos.
>They literally say those who are supposed to die will die in the ending.
>they talk about how this is was in the past
>the past meaning back when people died of disease

Are you right in the head, m8?
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>>82908340
SMT IV's not canon
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DAMN! SO MUCH MACCA AND EXP FROM THESE TITANIAS!

The Gogmagogs in White Temple will give more, and spawn with Titanias!
I wanna finish Yoyogi Park already but I can't stop myself from going on Riberama-induced killing sprees!

I'm level 58 and I still haven't fought Grimehkala yet!
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>SJ isn't called SMT IV: Strange Journey
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>>82908562
No, the past meaning back when demons and humans lived together on earth. And the only diseases back then are always divine pestilences. Disease of the body and land were a reflection of humanities flaws shown in the Schwarzwelt, which the Chaos ending aimed to fix.

The point of it is that humans would go back to a primal but pure way of life, where competition and dispute are solved directly. Where the strongest are raised on a pedestal and the weak are given up in sacrifice to the gods. Not a world where most people get sick and die of dysentery regardless of personal strength.
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>>82909596

So in other words its a completely shit world, but they pretend that its somehow okay because they pretend that the natural disasters that constantly happen are deliberate just because the gods are like "you STR, bro?" The neutral gods who don't want you to live in squalor that you pretend muscles that you could have anyways make up for seem a lot nicer.
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Well?
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>>82908420
>>82908376
>>82908203

Let's cut the shit, and get to the main point that both Law and Chaos have in common no matter what, and what Neutral never does.
>>82909813
>>82909596
>>82908562
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>>82910073
DIC
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>>82910073
Yoyogi
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>>82910110

I have no clue what you're saying. Do you speak english?
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>>82910073
Hawk/Aleph

But seriously, name him SMTG
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>82910353
you are late, fag.
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>>82910110
Go away Serph, you're inferior to your data copy.
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>>82909813
>So in other words its a completely shit world
Its a utopia bro. All you need to survive and thrive is at your finger tips and all you need is the strength of will to take it.

>but they pretend that its somehow okay because they pretend that the natural disasters that constantly happen are deliberate just because the gods are like "you STR, bro?"
They would have to be deliberate. The mother goddesses are completely in tune with the land, and the only reason they would have to show their strength if if you tried to turn from the wild freedom they've provided humanity with to the cold worship of law. Much better than the land going out of control at random.

>The neutral gods who don't want you to live in squalor that you pretend muscles that you could have anyways make up for seem a lot nicer
Neutral gods are free to take up claims and have their own communities of worship. That's the beauty of freedom.
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>>82910353
Bout time you showed up! Kept us waiting, huh?

>>82910197
Let me explain this more clearly.
>To Law and Chaos, mankind are just tools, used as means to their own end(ing)s.
>Neutral is bro towards all mankind, doesn't take advantage of or manipulate anybody, like Law Brainwashing or Chaos Bloodlust.
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>>82910540
Not true at all.
A neutral person may step all over/manipulate others to get what he wants. See dark-neutral
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>>82910651
Yes, but Neutral as a whole does it to a far lesser (if at all) extent than both Law AND Chaos.
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>>82910540
>go neutral
>get is mom eaten
>his dog lost
>kill your only friends
>get killed in a cave by the people that you saved
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>>82910540
Didn't realize a new thread was up
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>>82910478
mem aleph being light neutral always fascinated me

does anyone think her influence on the MC might make the chaos future less awful?
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>>82910741
>Even on Chaos route you couldn't get with Lilith
That was the true travesty of it all.
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>>82910741
>Already read this copypasta
>Still get feels from it every time
Never change, Cave-in Anon.
Never change.

>>82910864
Yup. But wouldn't you get severe STDs from her? And would they be worth fucking Lilith and having loads of children with her?

>>82910797
Maybe. But you gotta take the alignments the Demonica gives them with a grain of salt.
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>>82910797
She's as Chaos as anything. Password demon stats that you aren't particularly meant to see aren't canon. Otherwise when Jimenez becomes a full demon he turns neutral too.
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>>82911031
>>82911039
She is displayed as neutral in her status bar during the fight.
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is awake jiminez a half demon?

does that put him in the same field as demifiend? I haven't played nocturne so I don't know how/why he got his powers
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>>82911151
>>82911039
>>82910797
>>82911031
How have to realize that what a demon's alignment is listed as isn't always congruent to how they actually are.
Mem Aleph represents ancient mother earth goddesses, so she'd be light, because they were worshiped.
For instance, Thor is Light, but he doesn't act so in SMT 1.
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>>82911272
We're talking about the Neutral bit, not the Light bit.
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>>82911202
most like half half demon.
bugaboo wasn't a full demon even.
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>>82911272
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Alignment

huh, that makes a lot more sense.

thanks!
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>>82911202
Well, demi-fiend is strong due to the magatama.
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>>82908203
>Lets all sit around punching each other in a forest and piling up bodies in pools of blood next to our altar.
>not worshipping glorious Aztec gods like they intended
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>Eridanus

Just

>Eridanus
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>>82912120
i am ok with that
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>>82912271
>imploding eranidus isn't the best dungeon in the game
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>>82912802

>implying its not the best dungeon in any game.
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How do i get a qt demon gf
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>>82914226

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Incubus.html
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>>82914352
I aint reading this shit nigga cant you upload the program to the dds.net
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>>82914352
>First off, it is important to perform a ritual to Father Satan

but satan is a grill
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>>82915672
Just because he has tits doesn't mean he's a girl.
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>>82914352
>Incubus
hell no.
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Which singular route has been your favorite in all of SMT? Which alignment and game?
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>>82918068
neutral SJ

strike team are the best redshirts in gaming history, and arthur is goat, plus it leaves the door open for SMTIV
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I think that butthurt-casual-smt-fan-anon isn't really seeing the bigger picture. A lot of people would be interested to know that a good chunk of people who get theology degrees or even participate as actual theologians are not members of the religions that the degree is for. Many of them are even atheists. What it is is that while modern analytical philosophy studies often only individual concepts, it doesn't really get into entire worldviews except in vague ways. And this is expected to be supplied elsewhere. Many nonreligious people use existentialism or continental philosophy full worldviews as a kind of replacement religion, or try to spin something else as one, but an interesting thing a lot of people such as death of god theologians do is to take the lifestyle philosophy from religions and posit that its accurate (or useful for lifestyle philosophy) even if the religion isn't literally true.

And that's the thing with all of megaten. It has a rich super-theological framework composed of not even just one, but many religions, as well as a message of having to find and accept your place in the universe. So the study of it is almost like hyper-theology and substantially useful lifestyle philosophy in that it exposes you into the inter-playing of three parallel and opposing religious and philosophical constructs designed to represent positions on things as a whole. So its useful in the way that the christian atheist finds christian theology useful.

>>82918068

II Law.
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>>82918297
Wish there was more fan art of them.
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>>82918808
>analytical philosophy

Continental master race.
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>>82918808
>christian atheists
u wot
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>>82919461

You probably know them by the related name cultural Christians. Although cultural christian could simply mean an identity rather than a philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_God_theology
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOKyf_7J6sA
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>>82918808
Demons and God in SMT are more of ideas than they are literal. They represent ideologies, where "God" is the collective, and "demons" are people willing to push forward to accomplish shit for themself. So the whole narrative of humans deciding for themselves is basically arbitrarily deciding that those ones "don't count." The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology. The narrative basically breaks down entirely, and it comes off like hypocritically defining certain things as alien just to not have to consider them.
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>>82918808
beadman you might be nuts but

> it exposes you into the inter-playing of three parallel and opposing religious and philosophical constructs designed to represent positions on things as a whole.

you have a very good point, smt is probably where a lot of non japanese were first introduced to eastern religion and philosophy, the appreciation of which makes a lot of new stuff to think about.
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>>82919275

>continental philosophy

>Phenomenology: Its offensive to point out that the subconscious exists and that people don't know why they do things, to lets just let them insist that they all know everything there is to know about their own minds.

>Existentialism: I really hate my mom, and really am obsessed with being "unique" and "living my own life" and "doing my own thing.

>Post-structuralism: I embody all the worst aspects of the two above, but also want to force other people to comply with my whims without needing real reasons for them to think they should.
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>>82919774
>The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too
No they don't. They literally say they created humans. Stop saying wrong things.
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>>82907912
>>82903231

i think kaneko had a certain something in mind while designing these two.

something special.
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>>82919963
Phenomenology = Law
Existentialism = Chaos
Post structuralism= Neutral
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>>82920135
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>>82920024

Someone decided that that text is a meme and posts it every week now.

Also, what you're saying isn't really contradicting it, since its about themes, not about whether demons "actually exist" in universe. The demons say more than enough to get the idea that its meant to be able to interpret them both as literal and non literal beings. They say they made humans, but sometimes humans make them. They say yhvh made the universe, but also usurped it. Etc. If you interpret both versions of every contradiction as accurate, then you have to interpret it very specifically.
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>>82920135

Speaking of designing them, why is there drawings of every demon in II, but not yhvh? Did he even make drawings for yhvh?
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>>82920469
No, the only "creation" humanity does is through being large sources of magnetite in the form of worshipers and sacrifices. If a demon is popular with humans then said demon becomes powerful thanks to the influx of magnetite. If a large enough group of humans worship a concept then a demon will come and become the object of their worship for the power. This is the concrete relationship between demons and humans.
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>>82920778

Hell, there's even ones of the avatars.
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>>82919774
Why are you still posting this biased pasta? Why are people still replying to it?
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>>82921007
The bead is strong.
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>edgy
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>>82920907

Sure, if you ignore that they say they'll only "exist" as long as humans believe in them, and the fact that worshiping them directly gives them power is to emphasize that their power is the power of humans who follow those ideas, in persona they directly say that they're created by the minds of humans, in iv johnathan says god exists because humans "need" a god, the metaphor makes it obvious that its referring to ideas, in iv as well as some of the remakes they say that when not manifest they "live inside human minds" as "hopes and dreams" among other things. And neutral gets away with not being seen as committing any genocides despite often genociding demons, since "that doesn't count," implying that in some sense they're meant to be seen as manifest forms of ideas.

Yes, there's a ton of things that emphasize that they actually exist too. But how independent their existence is is up for grabs, especially since even if in game they have some its obviously still meant to be obvious that to the player they're from the player's perspective metaphors for ideas, and the people who follow them, not just random aliens that "do shit." So this leaves the issue that one might be lying, or that you have to find a way to rationalize that both interpretations are somehow accurate. Which is possible to do in the same way that it can be possible that yhvh is the creator, but also an usurper, if not that one of those is merely a side lying to you.
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>>82922070

It doesn't even look good. What the fuck is on its head? Why were the guest artists so retarded.
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>>82922179
0/10 bait
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>>82922276
>>82922070

Also its stomach has muscles, but its face is a skeleton. What am I even looking at.
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>Ouroboros
>Barely doing enough damage to get past its regeneration
>This was not a good idea
>Disaster Cycle
>Petrified
Well fuck you too
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>>82902362
doom already has demon sprites, just add a negotiation system
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>>82922680
In my opinion Ouroboros was much easier boss than Asura. Then again, as soon as I got immunity from stone I never took it off because that's the most BS way to die in that game.
Demons with bomb ailment ambushing you is another but that's way more rare than instagib petrification
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>>82922680
ouroboros is a fucking asshole, try dantalian or any demon that has null phys or can reflect magic

Debuff it and wish for luck with reflecting. I think its weak to fire, so if you can get an alignment team to spam fire you're somewhat better off. Good luck!

every boss from it on is just as hard


>>82922683
the SJ textures would go a long way in doom, I think, even if they were the wrong resolution.
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>>82923085
>every boss from it on is just as hard

So this is the reward I get after that insanely annoying dungeon. My hunger has found a tough rock to bite for the first time.
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>>82923323
Don't be a bitch ass messiah, anon.
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>>82923323
>insanely annoying
>eridanus
but the music is great and the fights aren't that hard. I enjoyed solving the teleport puzzles too until I hit a point where I needed to find a secret door and got stuck for a looooooong time
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>>82923323
>So this is the reward

>this kills the player
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>>82923323

To be fair not EVERY boss is that hard. But there are a few which are much harder.
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>>82904682
I want them Titttytania titties
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>>82899694
I haven't either anon, it's OK.
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>>82923085
>>82922683
>>82899953

the soundtrack sounds like it might not work too well with a fast paced FPS

i googled around and found these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHWVQfU6U_Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX5honTVylg

they go together strangely
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>>82908069
He'll turn YOU into gender fluids that's for sure faggot
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lilith is chaos-only in SMTIV right? no way to get her in neutral?
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>>82903463
>>82903668
>sound unnatural yet flawless

i guess they're calling her a vocaloid? and since hes japanese he likes it? idk...
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>>82901869
kaneko's nadja design doesn't look like lilim
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>>82918808
>>82919963
>>82919593
>>82920907
>>82922179
STOP POSTING BEAD FAGGOT
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>>82925758

Not even all of those were me.
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>>82925758
One of those was anti-bead.
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>>82918068
I loved SJ Law. Zelenin and the angel's involvement was cool, powerful agents acting in deep enemy territory. The Law choices seemed pretty natural to choose, and Zelenin was a lot more likable than whiny baby Jimenez and she was cute as hell. Also recruiting Demiurge on a Law playthrough is cool as shit.

And the ending is the perfect mix of creepy, alien and yet utopian. It gave me the feeling that I was putting Law back on its feet, and turning everyone's plans on their head.
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>the last female smt protag was made one of the developer's canon waifu

In IS, whenever Tamaki is like GOSH WHY DID I EVER FALL FOR THIS GUY :))))

I'm just disgusted and think, because he wrote you that way...
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>>82911031
>>Already read this copypasta
>>Still get feels from it every time

It's because we all love Hero so much.
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>>82928245
>>82923936
i remember seeing an angel wearing a mask like this

does anyone know what inspired mastema's design? it looks really, really familiar, i feel like i've seen something like it at an orthodox church or around one
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>>82918816
Yeah.
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>>82925505
I know but the redesigns do share some similarities.
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>>82928508
At least she wasnt erased from all excistance like her male version was, people complain about FemMC being ignored but that guy had it harder.
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>>82929203
if male tamaki wanted to be canon, he shouldve been a waifu

Shin Megami Tensei: if...: Protagonist
Shin Megami Tensei: if... Hazama's Chapter: Playable Character
Shin Megami Tensei: Kahn: Male protagonist as Nobu
Megami Ibunroku Persona: Minor Character
Persona 2: Innocent Sin: Minor Character
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment: Minor Character
Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem
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>>82928508
>the last female smt protag
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>>82930452
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>>82930836
>that giant head
No thanks.
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>>82931593
Would you say that to your Lord and Creator as well?
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>>82931760
Would I not?
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>>82908340
Lucifer has said he's had a truest form before.

Don't believe his bullshit when he says he has a true form. Unless you basically learn of it from other sources he won't admit to it, just like Mara won't admit to being a girl unless you already know.
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>>82928245
Jimenez was my bro.

Zelenin was Mastema's pawn.
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>>82933394
She admits it in SJ though.
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>>82933631
After Grendel tells you that she's a goddess and she learned that you know.
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>>82933812
But she didnt know it.
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Guy from the other day that was looking for the guy that does crazy SMT challenges. Found his channel if anyone else is interested. This one is him beating Satan in 2 turns

http://youtu.be/tkEUgsYRVw8
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>>82933853
I thought for sure that she did.

Maybe I should go back and play that quest again as it has been awhile, but I'm pretty sure they mentioned it.
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what's the lowest acceptable amount of demons you could have in an SMT game

100? 200?
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>>82934167
I think you are right, she mentions something about SM thinking he spected a beautiful Goddess or something (You even have a choice there i think). However i think thats only in the chaos path since in the law you get information about her by Seraph.

>>82934359
Whatever the ammount Raidou 2 or Nocturne had, i dont really like too many demons like 4 or SJ had given most of them were usellss and i was pretty much forced to collect them.
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>>82934664
Yeah it was the chaos path.
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>>82934148
>dealing thirty fucking thousand damage in two rounds of combat
I need to see this to believe it.
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>>82900872
I don't think it could even if my life depended on it
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Decided to pop in my copy of DeSu OC after a year of not playing it... I'm pretty proud of what I did
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>>82935657
I have to say I like his art. He even has a Asherah pic on his twitter.

Though while he likes some designs I don't from IV, he at least doesn't drawn the shittiest design, which is Lucifers first form.
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>>82935847
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>>82936012
>That feel when you cant draw to save your life.

I wish i was a drawfag.
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>>82936145
Me to bro
I just want to be able to draw lucifer family portraits
>>82935847
You have a link to the artist's twitter? I just saved that pic from the booru
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>>82936145
I also wish I could draw.

Then I could draw art of my favorite designs that don't have much of it.

This artist really likes the Zoroastrian ones.
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>>82936229
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=53092

Has his website and his twitter. His pixiv one has a really huge image of the Zoroastrian demons together.
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>>82936229
Whoever drew this is pretty good.
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>>82936412
Yeah I like that one a lot. I want an updated one with Hikaru even though she would clearly be the bastard child of the bunch
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>>82935657
>tfw there will never be a lucifer with tits this glorious
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>>82937792
fumi's fumis.
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>>82938137
Fumi's great, but they're not glorious enough.
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