>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
Previous thread: >>78955120
First for Alice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY
How's that KMT playthrough going?
>>79074156
I miss when threads would get 900+ posts before a new one.
>>79074304
I miss 1000 post bump limit.
>>79074304
Yeah, I remember quite a few 1200+ posts threads even after they changed the bump limit to 750
>>79074296
I'm in Infini. I just want it to end.
>>79067683
Well, any luck?
Break Record When?
>>79074304
Too many threads on /vg/ now, I guess.
>>79074646
I'm seriously starting to think they've canceled it now. How long has it even been? A year or something?
>>79073921
I needed the other stats to make her an Idol.
/smtg/ could've been a furry idol, they have higher base STR.
>>79074784
>Too many threads on /vg/ now, I guess.
I guess so. We used to have only 5 pages not too long ago.
>>79074296
Defeated Medusa with a party that dealt 4 dmg per hit. The Boss had 300 HP.
Yeah...no. NO MORE KMT for today, that was ridiculous. I really hope I find a MUCH better way when I make my second playthrough.
>>79074646
First you must break a record and offer it to the stars.Then you must sacrifice a virgin who carries your blood.
I want to fuck Mirai
>>79074816
>he likes games with mediocre combat that use the same map for ages and have no story
I added back the Recommended Pastebin, I hope I did good.
>>79075365
Yeah, sure, whatever.
>>79075365
Reading*
>>79075212
>Caring about story in a dungeon crawler.
It's not like SMT has a good storyline.
>>79075183
Disgusting. How dare you have such disgusting thoughts about Lucifer-sama's child!
>>79075632
I want to fuck Lucifer
>>79075579
>there will never be a game where Law and Chaos will both be attractive and satisfying, and Neutral will have an actual argument against it besides "neutrality is boring, lol"
>>79074258
this is perfect
>>79076025
you mean Devil Survivor?
>>79075867
I want Lucy to be a husbando again
EVERYONE DANCE
THIS IS A DANCING THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uT7fas-WE
>>79076250
can you imagine the step? he's genius!
>>79076382
WE HAVE TO DANCE
>>79075579
except it does, it just leaves a lot to the imagination
i would imagine that playing smt 1 back when it came out would be mind blowing.
>>79076167
I don't like SRPGs anymore
>>79076474
What are the differences between Law /smtg/, Neutral /smtg/ and Chaos /smtg/?
Is Chaos the land of shitposters?
>>79076474
>>79076910
All are filled with shitposters, in chaos nobody stops them, in law they are allowed to coexist with each other, and neutral everybody ignores it.
>>79076910
Neutral is what you see now. Chaos is shitposting all day. We've experienced this a few times. Law /smtg/ would obviously be a perfect place for discussing SMT in the most productive and respectful manner possible.
Is Infini good? The Sea of Flames is really beating down my will to continue.
Booru anon here. I made a thing about tagging. Maybe it'll help or something.
http://smtg.booru.org/index.php?page=forum&s=view&id=1
>>79076250
Can someone Webm that video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gu6mz3Hp7k
>>79077396
i don't really want to sign up for it so i'll post here
should posts be tagged with the artist as well?
>>79077396
dang I was spelling demifiend as all one word
>>79077494
>Persona 5 theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8GcdW5AeA
>>79077396
is there a way to add tags en masse?
>>79078223
ooooh, good point. Yeah, if you know the artist name, then definitely add it.
>>79078262
it's okay, i'll add aliases so that either way they'll show up. it's just easy if we stick to 1 tag.
So did anyone check for that track in P1P...?
>>79078363
I don't think so anon. The mass uploader automatically tags things based on the file name, but you'd have to go through your images and rename them before uploading them.
>Looking at the map of Kyuuyaku Tensei.
This gonna be fucking fun.
My question is this game about a Wurld of Luck or world of Strenf?
>>79078672
St.
>>79077156
In law /smtg/ you're only allowed to discuss the numbered mainline titles.
>>79078262
Balls, if I add the aliases, it ignore the original tag. So if I set it so that searching "demifiend" shows all images tagged with "demi-fiend", all images tagged with "demifiend" won't show up. Since there are less images with "demi-fiend", we'll just use "demifiend" as the default.
>>79078289
>not Breaking the Chie's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4CSG5EXQbA
>>79078369
There's some pictures on there that were draw by people here. Should a collective 'drawfags' tag be made for those ones?
>>79081948
Don't see why not.
Am I too late for the dancing?
>>79082834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8vVN0GmPGg
>>79083137
can someone post the Dancing All Night .gif stylized like SMT2
>Devil's Peak 6F
So far, nothing.
>>79083313
So you only confirmed that Devil's Peak is bgm36. Now search the entire fucking game for that track I replaced then.
>>79077156
>>79079096
If you think about the /smtg/ /pg/ separation in terms of separating the wheat from the shitposters maybe we're already in a permanent law state
>>79084086
Nah.
>>79084320
yeah not even a wurld of neutral would want to put up with them
>there is never going to be a light gun SMT
>or a danmaku SMT
>or another mainline SMT for the matter
;____________;
>>79084086
That'd make us more like Mikado. We tried to put ourselves apart but we're still corrupted by shitposting
>>79084854
Just imagine, Touhou x SMT
>>79084854
>there will never be a platinum game starring demifiend
>>79085158
>you will never play Flynn vs. Raidou in an SMT fighting game
>>79084854
Sure there will be another mainline SMT game.
Just wait 11 years.
>>79085295
That's not being fair to Strange Journey
>>79085335
True enough since it was developed as IV originally, but didn't technically count since it wasn't in tokyo.
So we'll just have to wait 6 years.
>>79085256
This is something I started wishing for when they made the arena games, I wanted them to make one with characters from every game, say on representative from each game, the four persona games, all devil summoner, all SMT mainline, everyone together, Demi-Fiend vs Space Marine, story be damned
>>79085463
Someday anon,it's never going to happen.
>>79074061
Poor Heat, all but forgotten by the final part of DDS2.
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what indicates the order you have to put the orbs in to free Izanami? I think I'm going to just save state and try everything cause I just want to get out of this fucking dungeon.
>>79085785
good
he was a bitch ass nigga in DDS2
Do you like Serph's ass?
>>79086218
He had reason there about this, its not really his fault that the real personality of Serph didn't imprint on our Serph
>>79086218
What, just because he wanted to kill us?
>>79086320
Maybe.
I want to fuck Gale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzKNAN0qzoE
Does this play on all endings?
>>79086558
No, just Neutral.
>>79086526
No, you do not.
>>79086641
but I do
for a series with such a huge universe you would think they one of them would try exploring it
space SMT when
>>79086348
>>79086393
Don't get me wrong, his personality in DDS1 was fine. Some might even say good. But in DDS2 you spend the first quarter trying to find him and the second and third quarters fighting against him. It's pretty senseless.
And don't get me started on the EXTREMELY half-assed secret Heat as a party member thing
>>79086641
I have Rick's Bracelet but when I reached into the urn in the Sea of Flames I got nothing. What gives?
>>79086810
you're wrong on pretty much all accounts
>>79087073
No I'm not. In DDS1 he was an ally who kind of had a rivalry thing with Serph but begrudgingly went along with your plans for Sera's sake.
In DDS2 he's straight up antagonistic, EVEN when you have Sera in your party. It's dumb.
>>79086810
It's not senseless at all, really. The game had been hinting at mounting tensions between Serph and Heat since around Coordinate 136 in DDS1, so it's not like it came out of nowhere or anything. I mean, its entirely likely that they still would have eventually fought to the death even if Heat wasn't taken in by Madam Cuvier, since they would've all discovered the truth at some point anyway.
As for the secret party member thing, what was so half-assed about it?
>>79087234
isn't that because he was told how fucked up serph used to be
>>79087398
That and he'd mutated horribly because of the corrupt data in the EGG.
>>79087398
Yeah when you beat Vritra and Serph comes back Heat tells him he'll settle things with Serph where it all began and you meet him whereReal heal died
I haven't played the games, but in the novel, Heat constantly undermines Serph to the point that I'm not surprised his game counterpart is at odds with him.
>>79087398
Yeah but it's kind of hypocritical and pointless because
a. The Serph that he knows isn't even the "real" Serph
b. he's just data too
I mean, I can get hating the OG serph, but the Serph in DDS2 is different.
>>79087373
>As for the secret party member thing, what was so half-assed about it?
He doesn't have his own Mantra progression (he just inherits Roland's) and he has nothing special going for him at all, not even any unique abilities or anything. In the US version his VA isn't even translated; he speaks Japanese.
>>79087594
Heat's not a real logical person. He reacts to thing emotionally, which is why I don't have any trouble believing that he would conflate the two Serphs in his mind.
>>79087594Actually it's kind of weird that you don't bump into the Solar data of Real Serph and Heat. Maybe Real heat could've given him a special move for the finale.
>>79087594
Well yeah, he inherited Roland's grid because Roland was designed to be Heat's stand-in in combat. Started off with different stats, but as soon as you got some levels into him it was obvious that they shared stat growths.
As for the VA thing, that's a valid point and I'm not sure what happened there. He only has what, two lines in combat? Maybe they just...forgot.
>>79087895
What about the battle with True Varna and False Varna?
>>79087810
Heat is kind of a lunkhead, isn't he
>>79087990
Well I mean as NPCs in the sun or something.
>>79088094
That's what makes him endearing!
>>79087929
Either way his addition as a party member is pretty pointless since he's essentially a Roland reskin with different weaknesses.
>>79088236
He benefits more from the Hee-ho Ring, that's the main thing.
>>79088236
Roland's avatar was always pretty cool.
It's kind of a shame you can't have both Heat and Roland.
>>79088236
Or it could be argued that Roland is a Heat reskin, since Heat came first.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that he's totally pointless though, since what if Heat was one of your primary party members in DDS1? Wouldn't it be nice to get the old team back together for the final fight?
>>79088640
Serph, Heat, and Argilla will always be my A team
>>79088740
>serph
disgusting.
>>79088639
>tfw no agni and indra duo to wreck shit with
>>79088954
I used Serph, Argilla, andCielo
Is anyone else using savestates with Kyuuyaku at points or am I just a horrible scrub? My patience is wearing thin with some of this shit.
This week my university is having a Cultural Awakening Week and today there was a Japanese picnic. I learned about calligraphy and listened to Japanese music. It was like I'm really in a Purseowner game.
>>79089232
you are a horrible scrub.
>>79089256
i hope you die of eboladyne
Just finished my first SMT game, Nocturne. It's hands-down the best RPG I've ever played.
But I'm afraid the series doesn't get better than this... Is there any SMT which is better than Nocturne?
>>79089148
>not using everyone equally
>>79089256
I'm super jealous of Japanese high schools for having such elaborate cultural festivals
like we had "Field Day" and shit but it was so half-assed and stopped by 6th grade
>>79089256
Did you call your classmates senpai and make a kimono with them?
>>79089256
That sounds awful. Did somebody call you senpai?
>>79089256
were there any cute girls there?
>>79089256
More like you'rea faget
>>79089430
try SJ or IV
maybe DDS
>>79089430
Strange Journey, of course.
>>79089430
Sadly no, they're first person dungeon shit with 2d sprites and soundtrack made by someone else.Don't bother with them
>>79089430
>Is there any SMT which is better than Nocturne?
Play them and judge for yourself
>>79089369
I've only heavily used savestates with the sequence of orbs to free Izanami and currently the teleport shit in Bien cause I don't want to have to walk all the way back through just to take two more steps of progress and get teleported again.
On a scale of 1-10, how much of a scrub am I?
Started playing P3P on my phone because I was tired of waiting for IV after they announced the new PAL release date.
[/spoiler]holy shit, I forgot how jam the soundtrack was.[/spoiler]
Anyways, is Soul Hackers worth picking up? I've already played SMTI/II so I'm not fussed about the datedness. I heard the translation is a bit dodgy though.
>>79089557
>>79089563
>>79089565
Well, I don't really like the way they seem, I really liked nocturne's atmosphere. I don't have a DS or 3DS so I'll probably play DDS next or maybe emulate a DS and play SJ
>>79089602
Shit man, are you even serious? I mean, this is the best soundtrack I've ever seen in a game man, just take a look at this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u6cMThHc1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwmSNjNYuToAlso, does anybody know the name of that track that plays when you first encounter the collector manikin? It's like a really goofy track and I fucking love it
>>79089890
I now know that the thing in Bien is just for a special sword so now I feel like shit for cheating it.
>>79090065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tETYKtOKk04
>>79090065
IV has atmosphere out the ass.
Smirking is gay, though.
>>79090065
>Shit man, are you even serious? I
I sure hope he isn't. Tons of great songs throughout the franchise.
>>79087594
>a. The Serph that he knows isn't even the "real" Serph
this is a poor understanding of buddhist/hindu reincarnation
>>79090503
it's not reincarnation, it's data
>>79090374
Thank you, fine sir. You are quite the gentleman.
>>79090065
Nocturne has a unique atmosphere even among the SMT series but it's something all of the games excel at. Really, if you like Nocturne I don't see any reason why you wouldn't at least like Digital Devil Saga, SMTIV and Strange Journey.
Also the music is always fucking incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NygJDL7MCtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqjfaebnhI
>>79090550
Your data
>>79090550
How i become a data shaman?
Is there an online course for that?
>>79090503
>you will never understand eastern theology well enough to fully comprehend DDS
>>79090587
It's not reincarnation though
>>79089921
>Anyways, is Soul Hackers worth picking up?
The setting is my favorite in the series, the gameplay is pretty fast and the characters are enjoyable. If you can find it cheap I'd definitely recommend it (I got it for 30 AUD, which is cheap by Australian standards).
>>79090812
>boring battle system
>first person
>sprites
>didn't age well
>looks old
Yeah, no. Don't do it anon
>>79090556
Wow, that battle theme for DDS really got me on the mood. I think I'll download 1 and 2 from PSN tomorrow.
>>79091071
Don't forget how complex the loyalty system is for modern gamers.
>>79090550
it's literally reincarnation because it's literally a cycle of rebirth
But buddhism teaches the concept of anatman, lack of self. There is no "soul" of an individual, one whole and unchanging core of a being. Every being is a composite of parts, one of those parts being their karma which is what passes from life to life.
>>79086074
That's what I did. If you don't savestate you only get a try every moon phase.
>>79090730
It's funny how most people say DDS2's plot went full retard even though most of it had been hinted at since the very beginning of the first game.
Reincarnation? The constant rain in the Junkyard, literally one of the first things you see in the game. So subtle you don't even register it beyond "oh hey, it's raining".
>>79091151
It's useless because there's no law and chaos alignment. And fusion is fucking awful, demons don't level up.
>>79091172
there is no cycle
the only reason that Serph & Co. actually became real again is because of God and the EGG sending junk data to him
most people don't come back in DDS. only a very, very select few were able to
>>79091268
I think beating up Brahman is still a little absurd
>>79091151
I feel sorry for somebody who's too dumb to understand SH loyalty. I mean the game has a whole vision quest centered around teaching you how it works.
>>79089921
>I heard the translation is a bit dodgy though.
Not really. If that's the only thing you're hesitant about, just get it.
>>79091268
yeah this is basically what's going on in the whole duology. In the junkyard the flow of samsara is represented by the rain and the actual river while in the outer world, which is still data, samsara is data flowing to and from the sun.
>>79091194
Are there no hints? If not then that's just brutal.
>>79091379
What's an SMT game if it doesn't involve a climactic confrontation with some kind of deity? Plus, Divine Identity was an amazing theme.
>>79091354
>no cycle
It's the definition of samsara. Your concept of the junkyard being "fake" and the real world being somehow intrinsically different are probably at the root of how you're looking at it wrong.
>>79090812
I'm Australian too.
Did you get it through JB Hi Fi? Or did you order it online? Bought Bravely Default and Zelda through my mate who works at EB Games to boost his KPI's, worked out to be $40 and $50 dollars respectively. Ouch.
>>79091410
Oh really? I heard there was chunks of untranslated text and that it was a bit buggy, but if that's not true then I'll definitely get on it.
>>79091472
I didn't find any.
>>79091784
JB Hifi, yeah. The translation has a few slip-ups that are really glaring like the Japanese symbols for Life Stone appearing sometimes but nothing that broke the game for me.
>>79091071
>implying that matters to someone who said he was fine with SMT1/II
>>79091283
SH fusion is my favorite because demons inherit skills, but they also have consistent inheritance rules. So you can fuse to make better demons, but you don't jerk around trying to get a specific combination for hours on end, and you can't just use one demon to carry you to the end.
>>79091283
Demons are tools to be used at your discretion, son of man. They are not your friends.
>>79091408
Doesn't make it a good mechanic.
>>79092071
>inherit skills
>SH
Sure thing bub
>>79092224
You don't know the pain of trying to get a demon to inherit Makakaja because that shit got lower priority than fucking Agi.
>>79092224
But they do inherit skills? If you fuse different demons into the same result, they keep the same basic skills but gain different ones from one of the ingredients.
>>79092187
I'm indifferent towards it. I'm actually surprised at how okay I was with MAG, though.
>>79091784
There are, like, two or three strings of text that are untranslated, but you might not even run into them. A few lines go out of the text box.
There are other bugs though. The most important one, you can avoid, just don't have two files with the same character name (even for NG+) or chests might bug and you'll be unable to progress. The other one is random freezing during attack animations which some people get maybe a couple times a playthrough (many don't get any at all, for whatever reason).
>>79092332
I haven't played Soul Hackers yet but MAG sucked in SMT1 and 2. In 1 it didn't matter at all and in 2 you just had Aleph and Hiroko murder everything until you got to a boss fight
I like the MAG system. SMT IV would have been much better balanced with it.
>>79092449
I was swimming in MAG in SH.
>>79092449
MAG is your money making scheme in SH.
>>79092557
MAG hasn't been a problem in MT1 either
>>79092624
>tfw you crash the MAG economy by the end of the game
>>79092481
I think SMTIV's bizarre difficulty curve might have been at least partially intentional. The difficulty drops when you get to Tokyo because the game opens up a lot and starts to become more about exploration and figuring out where to go instead of navigating one relatively small dungeon, then it ramps up in difficulty towards the end a bit as you narrow in on your final goals. It definitely did need some tweaking though
>>79092632
Guessing you haven't gotten to the Sea of Flames, have you?
>>79092624
Some random drops from demons are pretty valuable too, the dungeon you have to beat for NG+ has a sword that sells for like, 100,000 yen or some shit.
>>79091283
Fuck demons that level up, they're meant to be used and then discarded, they don't have "potential" to be anything greater than they are unless fused off into something else.
>>79092885
Pokemon-style spinoff where you raise lifelong demon friends when
>>79092885
I agree with this. Most players don't bother keeping demons past their skill cap anyways
>>79092821
Yeah but it wasn't really that bad. I had to grind a couple of times to refill MAG but after I found the healer in Sea of Flames I had no problem.
And Infini hands out MAG like condoms at a Planned Parenthood Center.
Am I the only one that keeps track of the fusion line for their starting demons?
>>79093038
Is the anon that fused a ton of endgame-tier skills onto his Angel still around?
>>79093314
yeah
>>79092357
Sweet, sounds more stable than I thought. I'll buy it this arvo.
![tumblr_static_ncn0x1xymz4c488c8skcg4k0[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/dle6tDC.gif "tumblr_static_ncn0x1xymz4c488c8skcg4k0[1].gif")
>>79076250
>no SMT II sprites
Do I have to wait until max solar noise to sell plants for max price in DDS2 or can I just sell them whenever?
>>79076621
yeah, most SMT games require imagination but if you got that then the stories are pretty crazy
its easy to distance yourself from whats actually going on the earlier games since its age makes it feel kind of campy
>>79076621
SMT1 was pretty flat for me but I loved SMT2's story
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>>79093819
You're annoying as those guys in here who constantly go around saying "SMT x Whatever"
>>79085752
I'd do it if I knew how to code
maybe make a smash bros mod for it
>>79093571
Nope, they're safe to sell whenever unlike Cells.
![358[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x34VVS3.jpg "358[1].jpg")
>>79093705
I don't think the age is the only thing that makes them campy
>>79094056
that design is fucking sweet though
>>79093917
SMT x Persona when?
>>79094056
I want that on a shirt
>>79094197
/fa/ggot.
>>79089232
I use savestates in most of the old megatens since save points are so fucking far between and I REALLY don't like losing progress in games that are a chore to play
KMT lets you continue after death though, so I just powered through it. Only died twice anyways
>>79089430
IMO, Soul Hackers, Strange Journey, SMT II and if... (I speak moonrunes)
Majin Tensei is up there but its too different to really compare to Nocturne. If we're not being pedantic about spinoff vs SMT I thought DDS was just as good a Nocturne
>>79089232
I only use savestates to be a cheating asshole at the gambling minigames.
>>79095837
I wish If... had new ost instead of reusing SMT I and III know about Akira's route but that's for your second playthrough
>>79090065
great soundtracks is pretty much a staple of the megaten series
the only ones that really stand out as being lower quality are the PS1 remakes of the snes songs and strange journey's OST
>>79090360
what thing in Bien?
>>79091095
DON'T
a laptop from 2005 could emulate those games better than the ps3 versions
>>79096154
The Sword you get for using the demon in the jar to get to the warp puzzle on the 4F
>>79091071
fag
Is persona 5 personas being turds?
>>79096274
having at one point attempted to emulate them on a laptop from 2008 I think this is a slight exaggeration
>>79092357
freeze only happens if nemissa casts bufu on a specific demon (can't remember which, but it reflects ice) while wearing reflect ice clothes. it only freezes if the reflected damage is enough to kill nemissa AND the demon. many don't get it since not everyone gives nemissa ice skills
>>79096031
The only song I found myself not loving in SJ was the regular battle theme. The rest were fantastic, really helped reinforce the atmosphere of the game but I just felt that the normal battle theme was all over the place. Then again, in my case battles were over so quickly in SJ that I rarely heard more than the first 20-odd seconds.
>>79096673
i have sexy nemissa and that bug happen to me.
>>79096029
it uses most of the songs for different things though, and pretty tastefully. Like SMT II boss theme when crazy things start happening.
The fact that the SMTI+II ost's kicked ass helps a lot
>>79096334
whaaaaaaaaaat
I went through all of Bien and never saw any of that. does it happen later in the game, after the first time you visit it?
>>79096761
I only heard about it on forums so its probably bullshit
I also have sexy nemissa but I never experienced the bug. Do you remember what spell triggered it? tbh its probably just some weird thing with memory values
>>79097074
After you finish up flame place you should go back to bien
>2013+1
>we still don't know the second place this track is played
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwry9mY6vCU
The first time is when you activate the gauntlet, no one seems to know what the second time is. People were saying alignment lock but thats deconfirmed
lets get on this /smtg/
>>79096958
Oh that sounds neat, can't wait for the translation.
>>79097385
forgot to add, one of the devs said that its very intentional that its only played twice
>>79097204
Megido, i dont remember what demon.
nobody plays SMT because you guys are all a bunch of fudging bullies
>>79098828
To be fair that's only the chaos asshole fanbase.
>>79098828
Fuck vanilla cake.
>>79098828
what a fucking faggot, not playing the games you like because of some guy you'll never meet who told you the games you like are bad
like seriously, how does one become such a fucking faggot
>>79099030
vanilla cake is for scrubs. you just aren't man enough to handle chocolate cake
>>79098949
The worst chaosfags.
Why can't they do something useful like bring fertility to Tokyo like the rational chaos guys?
>>79099030
I bet you like chocolate dick too
>>79098949
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, BITCH
>>79098828
>People should play the games they like!
I agree entirely, what kind of faggot hates on-
>People attacked me for not playing games that aren't Persona, they're meanie heads!
JESUS CHRIST WHAT A FUCKING BITCH, GROW SOME NARDS
>>79099030
I will end you
>TFW reign should have played in the last room of purgatorium with the white background and no enemies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v5_brLXMiI
>>79099260
Strawberry dick is the best.
>>79099272
Fun Fact: Every demon in a SMT game that has said that to me died shortly afterwards.
>>79098828
What a little bitch. He'd never make it in a world of STR.
>>79099446
neither would you
>>79099193
I want to fuck NPC-kun.
>>79099639
Stan should have been in the game.
>>79099539
Say that to my face and not over Paradigm X.
>>79097385
wow
this is the kind of thing i would expect /smtg/ to be all over
anyone here have a capture card?
>>79099398
Fun fact: In every game the demons talk about how they lost and were kicked out of heaven, and chaos endings are non canon. By their own logic they're eternal pussies, since law won the outer universe battle, and neutral seems to win most in universe battles. What has chaos ever won?
>>79099821
You're mother.
>>79099737
I know right
I tried to find it watching a play-through since I can't be bothered to replay the whole game again, but the guy talks too much
>>79099821
>Chaos endings are non canon.
Except they are canon. There's a vast multiverse out there with alternate world's and timelines.
This was a specific point in IV when they visited the worlds where Law or Chaos won, no to mention the number of alternate ones based on Flynn's actions at the end of IV and how both Walter and Jonathan believe he helped them, meaning one of them came from an alternate world.
>>79099821
>chaos endings are non canon
there's no such thing as canon in the SMT universe, since alternate timelines are such a huge part of the series. You could argue that neutral route is "canon" in SMT I because 20XX in SMT II follows from the neutral ending, but you'd be wrong because "Chaos" 20XX exists in the SMT universe, just Atlus never did a game on it
So I'm late to this but is the new arena game really that much of a ripoff of Nyarly? Seriously why did they do this, why create a whole new character that will quickly be forgotten when they can use one of the original antagonists that pushed around two games? Are they somehow ashamed of their earlier games or what?
>>79100227
I always wondered what happened to the Johnathan/Walter from the original world, since the one that appears after the reactor thinking you helped them wasn't pulled from the same timeline
>>79100426
They needed to throw in a unimpressive final boss.
>>79100472
Either eaten by demons or saved by Gabriel/Lilith to be killed/eaten/fused immediately.
>>79100562
What I find most sntrage about this is even on japan we were talking about Nyarly and how cool it was that he was gonna make a comeback
>>79099936
seriously, if anyone here can stream the game we should have a "/smtg/ plays smt4" night, we could vote on decisions, demons and whatever, invite /pg/ so they can see what the fun is about
pic vaguely related
>> captcha: 420
yeah maybe
>>79100426
The writing of Ultimax seemed to be pretty shit even by Persona 4 standards, I really doubt the writers had that much inspiration when writing it let alone enough to put in a huge throwback like that.
Not that I wanted him involved at all, I couldn't imagine how badly they'd ruin his character. Nyarly worked because his convoluted plan that took 2 games to pull off actually ended up coming to fruition in IS. I don't think you could really pull him off without that kind of huge-stakes scenario the 2-part system Persona 2 used. It'd be like trying to make SMT1 have a huge impact but removing the nukes being dropped.
>>79100718
I'd rather do /smtg/ plays if... when it comes out, but that would get boring after a while
>>79100889
if and smt II have a lot of really slow, tedious moments, in if, there's themaze/mines where you save the principal, you literally have to wait an hour for those idiots to dig through all that shit
>>79099821
Worlds tend to end in chaos, since that's the terminology used to describe the conception at the beginning of nocturne. And then out of the chaotic vortex world comes a new Law as the basis for a new world.
>>79100867
They could have pulled it off if they pulled an Enoch.Basically manipulate everything to go exactly as planned and then troll the characters by acting like you lose to them thanks to the power of friendship, only to reveal afterwards you were trolling the shit out of them and your real plan is going unhindered, while leaving them completely oblivious that your real plan succeeded and some bad shit is going to go down in the future with them unaware.
Of course this would only truly work if he hadn't came in at the end of Arena to gloat about his evil scheme.
>>79101123
>you literally have to wait an hour for those idiots to dig through all that shit
thank god for fast forward buttons
hoyy lmao
>>79100867
Well he is one of the SMT villains that actually managed to achieve what he set out to do with every other character trying to make the best with what they have, something you only get on SMT1 and maybe 2, I also agree that it would be kind of hard for him to come back since he is in a kind of lock with the "contract" the P2 protagonists made using their memories, he is also one of the few persona villains that can and would restart the universe given the chance, what pisses me off is that they did nearly a 1-1 copy of him with the new guy that gets killed right away
