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-LAST NEWS-
>P5 will release on PS$ as well as PS#
>Persona Q will be adapted into a manga
>NA release date for P4AU is September 30th, Japan is August 28th, other regions TBA
>NA release date for PQ is November 25th, Japan was June 5th, Europe is November 28th

-GUIDES-
>General Persona Guide
http://pastebin.com/QPB3QuNm
>Persona 1 Guide
http://persona1.wikidot.com/start

-ARENA LINKS-
>Starter websites to learn:
http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/8362824-persona-4-arena-simple-character-guide
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14134-P4A-Gameplay-Primer
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Persona_4:_Arena
http://mayonakamidnight.com/forum.php

-DOWNLOADS-
>Art, Guides, Music and more (Persona only, contains P4A/TUUSH story transcripts and sprite/texture/script rips)
http://pastebin.com/4e3U9j2S
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads (Persona and SMT)
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona/SMT image collection
http://www.mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Ultimax NEW MUSIC
https://www.mediafire.com/?k8cvoyw2hox81bn

-MANGA SCANS-
http://personascans.tumblr.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457

-TRANSLATED MANGA SCANS-
http://pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp

-ARENA PLAYERS MATCHUP DOC-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6GZ6nt7cRyoWpR9_Bqyud8nCoDuLAcz-GcHyle71zQ/edit#gid=0

-P4U2 IMAGE/SPRITE/SOUND/MOVIE/PALETTE RIPS-
http://pastebin.com/iE2Q1uQn

-P4U2 English Patch + DLC Unlock-
https://mega.co.nz/#!qI5XTDQa!N6Lj7SejCvE1WgU7B6wWUb-yEJcz0eI-AgUdQLPqqJk
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first for persona girl pussy
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marie best girl
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adachi best boy
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I don't really want the NA ver. Of Ultimax but I want the cards, especially since i will be getting PQ, what do?
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ty op for best bros edition
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>>79047665
> trying to make this an epic maymay again
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Reminder that all fujoshits and tumblrfags will ship any two characters.
Such as Morooka/that little kid you tutor
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for sleeping
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>>79048264
That ass was a plague on the general for weeks, and you're a worse person for passing the screen caps along.
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>>79048264
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it's canon that Yosuke and Chie dyed their hair, right?
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For Aspergers and Paranoid Schizophrenia
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>>79048621
yup
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>>79048621
what
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>>79048621
yes
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>>79048809
it's canon
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>>79048621
absolutely.
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>>79043365
She will voice the MC. He looks like an Ogata fuck boy.
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>>79048809
Soejima says so
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>>79048264
This is cancer incarnate.
Pathetic.
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>>79049157
no it's super hawt
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>>79048621
Japanese can't half natural brown hair.
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>want all tarot cards
>no desire for ultimax
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>>79048990
She tweets a ton of shit about things she's in. I doubt she would have tweeted the SCEJ P5 tweet if she wasn't in the game.
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>>79048621
I always thought that they were part white but I was wrong
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http://strawpoll.me/2486297

Okay I'm actually kind of curious.
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>>79048990
>He looks like an Ogata fuck boy.
She looks like a boy.
I knew Shinji was voiced by a girl, but I never thought it would be such an ugly one.
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>>79048264
Cute.
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>>79049521
>thinking anyone will answer that honestly
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>>79049527
>girl
She's like a 50 year old obasan
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>>79049252
>hawt
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>>79049521
>there are girls here
No way in hell.
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>>79049725
Their are nicer looking jap milfs, Im sure.
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>>79049527
She's old as fuck isn't she? And really, you're average japanese is going to look like that. Unless they get plastic surgery.
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>>79049521
I voted girl but I'm a guy.
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>>79049527
I figured the voice belonged to a fat woman when I first heard her.
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>>79049860
Well I'm wearing a skirt, that counts, right?
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>>79049521
>Only two choices
Fuck you CIS-scum
Don't try to label me with your binary garbage
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>>79050054
I never guessed that during NGE, but Ken was more obvious.
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>>79050283
You sound like a girl to me because you're doing a ton of bitching.
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>>79049527
>>79050295
HOLY SHIT, I KNEW I HEARD THIS FAGGET VOICE BEFORE P3
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>>79050295
I'm looking at her twitter now and it's insane. She tweets everything that she is involved with to promote herself. Someone with this kind of self-indulgent personality/ego retweeting the Persona 5 logo tweet from Sony means that either Ken is in P5 or she is voicing some other character. Not a fan of her voice particularly, but whatever.
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>>79049768
>falling for the obvious bait
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Is there any art of a female Adachi? He makes me feel a certain way but I don't want to go down that dark path.
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>>79050601
The official NGE tarot cards have SHinji as Justice
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>>79050767
stop
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>>79050673
She's rather hyper active too in the p3 drama cds during the cast commentary segments.
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>>79050767
just accept you want his dick
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>>79049521
Im a guy but voted girl. Fuck your poll. Also because I want to be a qt grill
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>>79050767
You're a faggot.
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>>79050348
You stupid fuck that's a joke post.
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>>79051264
No shit? I never would've guessed!
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>>79051338
>I was pretending to be retarded.
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i want to cuddle teddie
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>>79051671
>playing along with a joke is a sin
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Is there anyway to rip the english golden arena text from the .pkg? Its hard trying to guess what the skills do.

please respond
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>>79051734
babys first trap.
andro looking 2D characters come in bulk, and Teddie is one of this shittiest.
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>>79051832
Just wait for the fucking game to come out
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>>79051965
youre saying some beary mean things
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Is there a single persona logo that is not shit?
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>>79052056
Why? I already have it.
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>>79051734
Would you just leave it at just a cuddle?
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Can't identify 3 tracks in P1P, need help.

Would anyone who has P1P and a save where you can more or less access all dungeons be able to help me out pinpoint their locations?

Don't know which locations since they are duplicates.

Namely bgm21 and bgm36 are identical, we don't know which one of these is the Devil's Peak and which one is something else, and where that something else plays).
And similar case with bgm12 and bgm41 which are both SEBEC music, but bgm12 has a form of intro to the track, while the actual SEBEC ingame doesn't, so I'm 100% positive that bgm41 is the actual SEBEC track.
Question is, where the fuck does bgm12 play?
And finally, a track we weren't able to identify at all, bgm43.

Here's bgm43 if anyone can help us identify it in P1P and also say what the P1 PSX equivalent is.
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/im22y0dexv3ldjj/bgm43.mp3

bgm12 and bgm36 will need ingame testing to find, by checking out all places in the game. I'd replace them with something completely different, not from P1 at all, so that someone can check all possible places in the game to find where they play.
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>>79052405
>being gay
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akihiko is my husbando
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>>79052450
Wtf is Versus
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>>79050916
Just listened to a bit of the cast commentary segments, and she admitted she doesn't play games although she did try Persona 3. So i don't think she retweeted P5 as a connoisseur of video games or anything. Needless to say this whole thing is a hunch on my end.
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>>79052668
Marvel vs Capcom 3 of course.
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>>79052437
>nobody will help anon-kun after what he did for us
kek
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Is there a single persona logo that is not shit? All of them are so boring, like they were made in Word.
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>>79052634
>you will never hatefuck teddie
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>>79052827
Sad, isn't it?
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>>79052634
>2016 the year of yurop persona 5 -2
>not being gay or at least bi
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>>79052827
>nobody will try this hard for attention.
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>>79052862
No shit because I'm not gay.
>>79052923
Please forgive me for not having a mental disorder.
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>>79053072
why you gotta be so gay for, anon?
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>>79052634
>gay
Teddie forms his body at his will. He can be whatever he wants. When he's alice, he's a woman. When he's pierre teddie he's a man.
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>>79053356
Gotta pull out these mental gymnastics to tell yourself you aren't gay?
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>>79053593
>mental gymnastics when you're talking about fucking algerian saturday cartoons

whatevs bud
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>>79053593
Yeah, it's weird, right?

>>79053356
Just accept it man. You enjoy dudes that look like girls.
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Well, thanks for nothing guys. I guess the P1P PS1 music patch ain't happening since nobody wants to help.
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>>79053593
but teddie is a shadow which far as we know are genderless
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>>79053818
Then why is he so intent on scoring with the girls and not with the guys?
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>>79049521
>47 responses
I don't believe it
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>>79053769
lmao
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>>79053769
None of the useful anons are on at the moment, just these shitposters. Just wait a while.
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>>79053914
>Then why is he so intent on scoring with the girls and not with the guys?
he wants to score with anyone

well except hanako and the teacher, but neither of the boys wanted too, maybe they have aids
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>>79053769
ok now fuck off with your harry potter videos
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>>79054018
Nowhere does he try to score with a male.
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>>79054043
Wrong jack, you fuckwit
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>>79054203
kings game with kanji and he gets farther than with any woman
checkmate
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>>79053769
P1P music is better anyways. Go look for attention elsewhere.
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>>79053929
>>79054278
You're so painfully new.

>>79054043
What?

>>79054008
Yeah I guess, I've got /smtg/ mobilized on this as well.
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>>79054276
He wasn't trying to score he was playing the game.
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Lmao who cares about P1 anyway
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>>79054396
I'm not new, you were supposed to drop the trip, you're just attention whoring right now, please stop
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why have the last two threads been so awful
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>>79054448
People who care about the second worst persona?
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>>79054396
Maybe it's an unused track
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>>79052437
>>79052879
Could you post all of the tracks you can't identify? I've got P1P and a save on my PSP, and also the OST on my phone.

Also, could you somehow get the English text for golden arena and post it?
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>>79054530
this is what happens when you give a tripfag positive attention
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>>79053356
In Arena they say that it completly changed his body while being Alice.
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>>79054779
Go back to /v/
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I want to thighfuck Marie so bad
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>>79054530
>I'm not new, you were supposed to drop the trip
I'm only using it for the projects you humongous nigger. I've been posting a lot without trip. Seriously fuck off if you ain't going to help.

>>79054635
Nah, it's definitely used. Megafan just identified bgm12 so that's one less.

We still need bgm43 identified and know which of the two (bgm36 and bgm21) is the one that actually plays in Devil's Peak and where the other one does.

>>79054713
Let me whip out an xdelta patch with a replacement test track for bgm36 so you can try and look for it ingame.

As for Golden Arena, there's a lot of text files and I don't really know which one has skills.

>>79054779
You clearly don't want that music patch and are clearly from /v/.
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>>79053769
its not on the OST, I'll boot up my PSP. could you post the other two tracks?
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>>79055335
>As for Golden Arena, there's a lot of text files and I don't really know which one has skills.
Right then, if you could look that'd be cool, otherwise whatever.

Also, once you post the other two give me a bit to find them in-game.
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>>79055335
I would love to help but I am working right now and won't be back until 2300 central time. I'm using my phone by the way. Don't get discouraged though bro. Day /pg/ is worst /pg/.
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>>79055742
You mean America time /pg/ is worst /pg/.
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>>79055167
Is thightfucking even a thing? sounds as made up as armpit fucking.
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>>79055416
>>79055630
They are identical so it won't do you much good (36 and 21 I mean). That's why I need to know which one plays where and the only way to do that is replace one of them and search ingame for a place where the replacemet and unreplaced ones play.
Give me a moment, making xdelta patch with a test replacement for 36. Then you'll need to apply that xdelta patch to the iso and try to find the tracks ingame.
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>>79055916
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercrural_sex
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>>79055916
>Dissing armpit fucking
Of course they're real things you fucking rugmuncher
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>>79055916
You never thighfucked a girl? Its fucking good unless she's a skellington
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>>79055916
Yeah, it totally is a thing
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>>79055916
>>79055972
I wish more doujins featured it
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ITT: permavirgins pretending they get laid
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>>79056327
Why are you pretending you have? Come on and join the discussion on fictional girls.
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>>79056474
But I'm not.
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>>79055891
America time is the Lord's timezone. 4chan ia a Christian website so it adheres to the Holiest of timezones.
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just got this in the mail thanks to the anon that told me about it a day ago
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>>79056553
It's good to hear that you're being truthful to yourself then! Sex isn't everything.
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>>79056327
I cuddle with him every night in my dreams
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>>79056686
Box and plastic look like shit tier condition.
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>>79056686
Oh yeah I remember this from that time.
Show more pics of it.
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>>79056706
I whole-heartedly agree. I want to show my waifu how much I love her, sex isn't my goal unless she wants it.
Pic related, my waifu.
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>>79056686
wonder how many times its been hotglued
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>>79056573
Which of America's timezones though?
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>>79047580
>P5 will release on PS$ as well as PS#
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>>79056905
>an underaged nigger
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>>79056686
I wish there were more P1/P2 merch
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So.. Rise isn't a virgin, right? She seems really nice and sweet, but that is a deal breaker.
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>>79057376
that's what makes it delicious
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>>79057428
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>>79057656
where can I get all these, any for P1?
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>>79057428
I'd buy an Eriko figurine in a heartbeat

Real Eriko, not that shit from P2. I will never forgive Atlus for ruining the design of my waifu.
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>>79056916
never

>>79056860
here
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>>79057918
Nice. You gonna hotglue it yourself?
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>>79057807
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?set=english&scode=FIG-COL-3449

I've never seen a piece of P1 merchandise.
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>>79057830
>muh loli
You sound like a fucking creep.
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>>79057807
You'd have to comb second hand websites for them. Yahoo Japan might have some, who knows. There are none for P1 or EP, of course.
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>>79057918
Can you give us a pantsu look
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>>79058040
why would i do that ?
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>>79058117
>muh loli
Are you for real? She looks nothing like a fucking loli in P1.
Are the P3 and P4 girls also lolis for you?
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>>79058117
>muh loli
Do you even know who Eriko is
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>>79058265
Because it's the ultimate sign of love towards a figure?
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>>79058265
The face seems ... huh... not that good.
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>>79058241
white and plain very disappointing
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>>79058117
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>>79058117
>creep
back to SA you forum sliding goon shithead
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>>79058702
oh well
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For whoever wanted it, Golden Arena Skill List:

http://pastebin.com/PV7tPi9r

They are in data/etc/text/eng/golden_arena.pac/golden_arena+string.atf
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>>79058869
yum
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>>79058910
Meant to add to that,

Trying to find the skill descriptions though. Might be in the same area.
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>>79059039
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>>79057563
She only uses her mouth and ass so I guess she's still pure
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>>79059194
She does seem like the type of chick to tell you to use her ass since she needs to be a virgin until marriage

which is delightfully depraved and contradictory
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>>79058751
>persona 1 doujin
o-oh my
i need a link, per favore
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>>79058869
I feel like there are fewer Rise figs than Chie and Yukiko, figured the Japanese would like their idols more.
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>>79056805
Looks hot and bothered. Imagine what it would smell like lifting up that skirt.
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I hate the fuck out of Ken but since he has a style similar to Relius, all is forgiven!
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>>79059534
Is it really that had to search Persona 1 in exhentai?
http://exhentai.org/g/146425/4942b13d54/
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>>79058869
>>79059168
dont you guys stop and think "what the hell am i doing with my life" everytime you take a pantsu shot of a figurine?
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>>79059819
are you new to /pg/

normalfag please go
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>>79058314
>>79058432
>>79058751
Yeah i'm for real.
>>79058851
>waaah someone said the truth about me
Are you mad, creep fucker? I bet you don't even have friend, if I see you on the street I'll beat the living crap out of you.
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Scanbro a shit. A SHIT. Fucking teases with images and doesn't actually post anything.
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>>79059819
>>79059887
>>79058117
>this is what we get for data mining, the bear warned us
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No wonder /smtg/ didnt wanted you faggots around. This thread is shitposting central 24/7, jesus. I'm out of this shit.
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>>79059819

not really can we not admire the detail on a nice figure the same way people admire Michelangelo's David penis ?
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>>79059819
I have half a dozen figs myself, what is the problem exactly?

>>79059887
wow aggressive normie is aggressive did your boss molest you again today or something? well not that i care as long as you do your work so i get my free bucks
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>>79060073
those figures would be better with penises

futa girls are love
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>>79060060
See you when P5 comes out.
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>>79060060
Good.
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>>79060124
Nothing wrong if you want to have anime barbie dolls mane, but then sneaking the camera below their skirt to photograph their plastic panties is going a bit too far.
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>>79059887
So is this bait?
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>>79060124
Because it makes you a fucking manchild. Do you really think any woman will want you after seeing your dolls?
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>>79060327
>>79060280

I want the normalfags to leave
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>>79055416
>>79055630
Ok guys here.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/m9v6e75dcsg63fp/Test.rar

I replaced bgm21 with a test track, it sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0BpWHm4g0w

Try to look for it ingame after applying the patch.

Oh and use xdeltaUI I included to apply the patch.
Select the test.xdelta in the "patch:" section.
Your P1P.iso in the "Source file" section.
And finally specify output filename and directory in the "output file" section.
Then press the Patch button on the bottom and it will create a new patched iso.
Then use that iso to look ingame for the track.
I'll really appreciate help in finding this darned thing.
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i want /v/ to leave
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>>79060362
>leave
You do know that neogaf and reddit browse this place, right? We'll never leave because of the content you guys make so we can steal and say it was made by us.
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>>79060459
Thanks for the work man
I'll see if i can find something around when i get home, you want from P1P or from P1 again? I have both here so i can give it a try
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>>79060280
Well mine don't even have skirts so...

>>79060327
I don't want women so that's fine by me
loli onaholes all the way dood
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>>79060327
go away
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>>79060525
can't wait for some fucker to post a terribly compressed image of arena marie wearing an eyepatch while trying to sell it off as being new content
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>>79060625
>Well mine don't even have skirts
Good, it would be a shame to hide that butt.
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>>79060589
P1P obviously, the patch replaces bgm21.at3 track in P1P with the test one so you can search for it.

Anyone that can just check as many places in the game as you can with this to find where the damned thing plays would be nice.

I suggest checking Devil's Peak in SQQ first, if it doesn't play there then I'll atleast be 100% sure that bgm36 is the Devil's Peak track.
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>>79060625
>Asuka

Nice taste dude. Best girl.
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>>79060685
Look at this
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>>79060871
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>>79060871
not compressed enough

also
>those safety pins on her tie
disgusting
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>>79060963
But then how would we know she's a true blue chuuni if she doesn't have the safety pins
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>>79060589
Also if anyone manages to find a place where bgm43 in P1P plays or knows where it plays, please say so.
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/im22y0dexv3ldjj/bgm43.mp3
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Good god Naoto is worthless.
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>>79060459
Alright, I had to go make dinner and now I'm eating, but after I'll find the patch and start looking. I'll let you know how it goes later.
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>>79063862
she's good at making love to
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>>79064365
Making rape to, more like.

I brought this bitch into this hellish Heaven and I'm regretting it. This game is way harder than P3, even the Answer.
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>>79064365
No she isn't
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>>79064445
>having trouble in p4
wow
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>>79064445
>This game is way harder than P3, even the Answer.

stop rusing please
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>>79064445
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>>79063862
Playing vanilla?
She's pretty worthless in that
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>>79064445
>making rape to, more like.
>this bitch
>hellish Heaven
>this game is way harder than P3
>even the Answer
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>>79064445
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>>79064620
It is harder. P3 gives you every reason and opportunity to grind whenever you want and showers you with cash. P4 keeps you perpetually poor and makes you reluctant to train in the TV world by consuming your days if you do. The analysis system in P4 is also a lot less friendly than the P3 system, so you find yourself frantically blowing your SP trying to figure out their weaknesses.
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>>79064997
you have to be kidding
you're really having trouble?
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>>79064997
You're just bad
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>>79064997
P4 is the easiest game in the series
You just suck
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>>79065176
>>79065265
>mfw I partially agree with this person
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>>79065265
I beat the Answer with far more ease than this game is giving me.
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>>79065378
fucking incredible
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>>79065378
What's you're team?
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>>79065378
How the fuck? I got through P4 only dying to one boss. Shadow Kanji is fucking hard for newbs man It's too easy.
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>>79065537
I use everyone and try to keep them at around the same level. P3 trained me to do that by having bosses that certain characters were worthless against.

The only character I really care for from a gameplay perspective is Yukiko.
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>>79065378
Good players don't need to grind
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When the fuck are there going to be lyrics for the P4AU opening
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>>79065176
>>79065265
>>79065319

>Someone says they had absolutely no trouble with the(you say) harder game
>you're just bad

explain /pg/
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>>79065631
I beat Shadow Kanji on my first try while getting wrecked by the normal enemies a floor or two before him. It's the normal fights giving me trouble in this game, not the bosses.
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>>79065742
P4 is the easiest game the series
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>>79065693
When the OST comes out
>>79065742
P4 is easier than P3 and you're doing something wrong
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>>79065742
Try reading those posts again
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>>79064173
Fair enough, in case you can't patch it (due to wrong iso region/trimmed iso/cso), here's prepatched:
https://mega.co.nz/#!nJ5XjZaR!_wRK7MNxYV4Eyb5btyE7cYqrCObN_Cwim8BgRijsUvc
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>>79065742
They didn't say that they had no trouble, just that they found p4 harder somehow - so it's still possible they had trouble with p3. regardless, p4 is easier than p3, you should not be having trouble with it when you're at fucking heaven.
anyway it looks to me like we have a grindfag who needs to git gud
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>>79060871
>I'M TOTTALLYNUCLEARSHUTUPIMSERIOUSYOUSHIT
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>>79065910
When will the OST come out
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[Crazy intensifies]

Full scans where
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>>79065910
>P4 is easier than P3
in p3 the first half of the game you can put everybody on auto and kill every full moon boss

you have almost infinite yen, they also throw weapons at your face to sell via the tarot card minigame after most fights. it's also easier to level because higher level exp bonus cards are ridiculous

nobody plays p3 vanilla anymore, in P3FES you can use any weapon you want and all of them have some other effect. same with equipment in general, you can get an auto-tarukaja accessory before level 20 and it means you kill anything in one hit for a while

dont even have to dick with social links to get ultimate forms of personas

you can just leave tartarus, go back to the lobby and you're full healed+full mp

you can do tartarus at night time so you have more time during the day to do what the fuck ever. the schedule is more lax in general, no needing to hit the end of the tartarus block like the fog in p4 that will net you a game over

analyzing is a lot easier, which makes no sense because p4's version would fit in better with "hey you spent 20 levels of tartarus casting agi, bufu, zio, garu in that order on random enemies. just go back to the lobby and your mp is full."

knocking down an enemy at all means they skip a turn versus two weakness attacks to make them dizzy in p4

setting your buddies to explore and going afk will probably net you every treasure chest on the level, the location of the access point and the staircase plus they have a weird way of phasing right through shadows

golden hands are twenty times easier to kill

first hit advantage in p3 is a fucking joke and exploitable as hell.

your actual attack in the overworld is like three character lengths and almost instant anyway

go take a piss and there's a 50/50 chance you'll get Great which is like being super saiyan

barely any stat(charisma, courage, academics etc.) checks beyond picking your waifu and the game just throws ways to raise them higher at you anyway.
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>Inb4 P5 MC is actually one of those "Slave to Fate/Destiny" types of protags

Would it make any sense to make the protag a slave to a Persona?
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>>79065319
>P4 is the easiest game in the series
all psp remakes are easier than vanilla
and then golden is easier than... hell everything

in fact it's hard to lose and suck in golden, you deserve an achiev for that
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>>79068297
But then he'd be a slave to ___HIMSELF___
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>>79068037
Don't forget the story automatically gives everybody their ultimate Persona.
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>>79068037
>you can do tartarus at night time so you have more time during the day to do what the fuck ever. the schedule is more lax in general

And this is where your trolling falls apart
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are shotagonistfags a reasonable contender for the stupidest group on this site?
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>>79068037
git gud
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>>79068702
Yes
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>>79068702
you're forgetting about femcfags, as well as anyone that comes from neogaf, tumblr or gamefaqs.
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>>79068702
Nah, the non-existant FeMC fags are so much worse.
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>>79068037
It's odd, I agree with almost everything and yet I think P3 is clearly harder, dunno why.
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>>79068503
Two C's inside a B isn't really that impossible you know. it's just information in the end, and we're just electric ghosts occupying an organic computer, self maintaining

CAPTCHA: Aerosol hallucinogenic cancer murderer: The Number
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>>79068982
Tartarus
The full moon bosses are a joke, but tartarus can be brutal and tired pisses you off during the first half of the game
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>>79068565
>>79068749

incredibly well thought out responses, your guys' way with words truly astonishes me

>>79068982

it may be tartarus having 25499358349 floors or maybe the ai, but i found it was easy to manipulate.
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>>79068982
lack of direct control of party members
party members get good skills slower
more status ailments that are used more frequently
enemies are tougher in general, especially tartarus minibosses
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>>79069132
>incredibly well thought out responses, your guys' way with words truly astonishes me
git gud
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>>79069186
Don't forget that multi-hit spells only give you One More if they knock every enemy down. Removing that made P4 random encounters a breeze.
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>>79069132
you must be the only retard in earth that thinks P3 schedule is more lax than P4, i don't even need to argue
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I don't get people complaining P4 is easier because you can direct control your teammates. It's not like they start being controlled by you, you need to change the option, initially they're AI controlled just like P3. And if you changed that, well, it's you making the game easier, don't blame it, blame yourself.
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>>79069426

it's lax in the sense that you literally don't have to do anything

nothing

you can do nothing for an entire month, you can go and sleep for 30 days, day after day, until the next full moon and there will be no consequences other than the boss may be a little tough

you will get a game over in persona 4
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>>79069592
No you can't, you need to reach tartarus landmarks and then the top or your game will be over before Ikutsuki betrayal.
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>>79069389
yeah, that's a good one too

i also remember that the combo attacks in p3 were a lot worse than the party member bonus attacks in p4, and party members in p4 would get surprisingly useful buffs if you did their social link

>>79069587
i'm not complaining that it's easier, i'm just stating a fact. p4 has direct control. p3 doesn't. most people will use direct control.

>>79069592
you'd honestly go a month without going into the tv? what the fuck are you doing?
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>Still nothing with MC and Megane-kun

I just want to see MC riding Megane-kun
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>>79069730
not every month, second playthrough i just did it less than a week ago on that one electric boss after you get shinjiro.
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>>79068526
Uh, you can obtain the ultimate Persona of your party members far earlier in P4 due to that reason.

>>79069186
Status ailments are also rather redundant in P4 due to how your party members will remove them without consuming a turn. Just in general the benefits from maxing a party member's slink greatly eases the difficulty of P4.

Really it's for that reason I feel that the only two difficult dungeons in P4 are the first two as it's unlikely you'll have maxed anyone's slink yet.
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>>79069809
>i'm not complaining that it's easier, i'm just stating a fact. p4 has direct control. p3 doesn't. most people will use direct control.
because most people want an easier mode. it's not the game's fault. that's like saying P3 is easy because there's an easy option.
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>>79070348
they could have just as easily not included direct control. that the option exists, is specifically pointed out to the player, and is frequently used does separate it from p3 since it's abnormal to play p4 with the party not on direct control
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