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No shitty expansion in the OP edition
/wpsg/ guilds:

WotLK
<VG> - Lordaeron 1x (Alliance)

>Where can I get game clients?
http://pastebin.com/mxjmsr3t

>How do I connect to [server]?
1. Register on a private server that hosts the same game client you have.
2. Copy their realmlist URL. This can usually be found on the main page of the website or on their registration page.
3. Look for a realmlist.wtf file in your WoW folder. This may either be in the root folder, or inside Wow/Data/enUS/
4. Open the realmlist.wtf file in a text editor such as Notepad and paste in the realmlist settings of the server. Make sure it starts with 'set realmlist' followed by the realmlist URL.

>I have set the realmlist correctly but it still connects me to XYZ server/says invalid login info.
You will need a clean wow.exe and dll files if you downloaded your WoW client from XYZ server. Check the clients section above.

>How do I stop my client from auto-updating?
• Start the game with wow.exe - not launcher.exe
• Don't use your email for logging in, use your account name.
• Find the patchlist file in your installation and remove it.

Previous Thread >>128478941
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CORECRAFT
WHEN
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Cata baby tears incoming
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Don't know what server to play on tbqh

>Lord
High population and low rates is attractive but I've played WOTLK to death and back and I can't think of a way to spice it up enough to be worth re-playing

>Nost
High population vanilla at 1x sounds great, but I've played Vanilla quite a bit (not as much as WOTLK) plus I find it hard to stay interested in Vanilla and I don't know if I still have the patience or daily 14 hours to invest in it to keep up. There's a chink invasion too, but I guess I'd play on the PvE server to avoid that.

>Atlantiss
Never played anything post-WOTLK for more than a couple of days, so it would be interesting to play some new content. But it's fucking Cataclysm and all that comes to mind is pointless casual enabling gimmicks, pet battles, achievements, flying mounts and people just sitting in the capital city.

>WoW Freaks / anything MoP
Most servers are broken af plus it wouldn't feel right to skip an expansion

>TBC
I'm staying away from it until CC (there is hope)
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>they havent joined VG yet
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>>128709974
if you can "wait" for it CC is indeed you only bet
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>>128710123
Thread theme until corecraft
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>>128708801
>still shitposting in the OP
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>>128710497
Aa can handle their own shitposting I'm sure
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>>128710334
that smug face tho
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>>128708801
I remember when /wpsg/ laughed catafags out of the thread. Did newfags take over?
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shaping up to be a great thread already
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>>128709087
no thread without that meme.
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>>128714789
You know who to thank for that
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>>128715256
no. please elaborate
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>>128708801
PLAYTBC
WHEN
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>>128715312
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>>128715530
who is this guy and what is his connection to corecraft?
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>>128715423
"our content is ready"
and we only want to advertise-
no content videos of raids or beta test raids or anything taht is actually important to prove the server is legit
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>>128715423
>>128716028
Its a shit server
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I want to sell my Kronos warlock
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>>128716240
I'll buy for a $1
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>>128716240
you would be better off selling corecraft test accounts
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>>128716240
what's with all the /nosg/ refugees
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>>128716923
I'm not a /nosg/ refugee. Already sold my Nos account too. Also sold my ED account, though that was long time ago. Now I just need to get rid of my Kronos account and I'm set for Corecraft.
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>>128717018
>set for corecraft
So youre a newfag i see
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>>128717132
Nope. And Corecraft is right around the corner.
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>>128717303
>>128717132
Corecraft isn't far off but it's not right around the corner.
go to the test server and check the github and you will see.
Most of the stuff is pretty good to a marvelous detail but there are still bugs that need to be fixed. not hard or detailed ones but it consumes time
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>>128717502
Hey man, I'm not a newfag. I was just being sarcastic. And I'm actually playing CC test right now.
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>>128709974
What casual enabling gimmicks cata has except for leveling? It's literally same as wotlk. except better
Pet battles are in MoP, not cata.
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>>128717934
RDF and LFR

>but wotlk had rdf

yes but lord has it disabled
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has there been a group /wpsg/ that tested kara on CC ?
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>>128718325
LFR is not even until last content
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https://github.com/ccshiro/cc-buglist/issues/2181
so apparently bugs like these are important to fix pre-release
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>>128718625
this isn't the most ridiculous blink bug report i've seen.
There was one where a guy could blink under the texture in zangamarsh when he stood on a specific plant (a texture one) and blinked in a certain way
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>>128709974
If you have never played anything post-wotlk then it is at least kind of interesting to see the new raids because they have new and different mechanics since Blizzard actually bothered to upgrade their technology.
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>>128718850
>>128718625
but you got to admit that the minor details are really good. Counting frames from old vids to check how the spell delay works on those spells just so the server is blizzlike to the last ms
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>>128718910
>technology
you keep using this word
what do you mean?
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RP server when
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>>128719485
trying to replicate potato internet connections of that time and potato pc behavior is not a feature, it's autism
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>>128719560
New mechanics that have never been in WoW before.
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>>128719792
every expansion/big patch added something
there's nothing special about cata
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>>128719784
it may be but it's part of the game and that 's the way blizz designed it
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>>128719897
There is nothing new in wotlk that wasn't in TBC.
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Malygos is the only unique fight in the whole WoTLK.
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>>128720159
>>128720010
the number of new thing in every expac are slimer than one might think. most of the boss abilitys didnt change but got flashier
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>>128720010
you are fucking retarded and never played wotlk
player classes alone gained new mechanics, like typhoon
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>>128720649
Oh that is nice and all but what was the first boss to utilize this new knockback mechanic?
Al'Akir.
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>>128720159
>Malygos
>Flame Leviathan
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>>128710334
that fucking cock
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>>128720972
you have vehicles, ships, mimiron laser canon, los objects, jumping debuffs, dmg sharing/splitting, player aoe pull spells (XT), phasing (algalon), mass teleport to a different room (LK), player grabbing (LK), saurfang energy you stupid retard
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>>128724513
vehicles existed before (consider chess event)
ships are new
laser is like lurker or c thun
not sure what you mean with los
jumping debuffs like on solarian pre nerf
dmg splitting like on alaar pre nerf
aoe pulls are everywhere
phasing is new
mass teleport like c thun
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>>128725039
That retard's point was that cata was "new techmology XD", and "There is nothing new in wotlk that wasn't in TBC XD"

Well, there is more new stuff that was added between tbc and wotlk than it was added between wotlk and cata.
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>>128725619
>new techmology XD
new meme?
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page 10
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>>128731514
Not for long
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Saving moltards
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>>128737820
just because i paid a hooker to fuck my dick doesnt mean im a normie, okay?
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>>128737850
Formerly <TEAMSESH>, <comedy chevrons>, <NORMIES REE>, now <HOOKERS WANTED> Lordaeron's HORDE raiding guild is now here in full force. If you like dank memes and fagboys we're the guild for you. Our members have experience in pre-3.0 Sunwell as well as heroic ICC, and we're prepared to lead /wpsg/ through full progression in a peaceful/meme-filled/non-elitist environment.

We don't pretend we're something better than we are, we've just accepted we ARE the best. We have an active teamspeak server and will help current leveling hordes with bags/gold/quests. Feel free to message any of our officers for an invite! (Nightrat, Dtach, Vorb, Whiteboychad, Frigginbonez or Playystation)


I think you should consider adding us to the OP, we're clearly an active guild with 5-10 new members from the threads daily.

Have a good thread and happy leveling!
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>>128738201
wow can u stop making fun of me im just trying to recruit for my clan. leave it to AA><and <vg< to be rude and bully others,,
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>>128738504
i wont respond to u anymore i learned that if u ignore bullies they get bored so im done responding to you you can contiunreu to bully me if u want but im not even going to respond have a good time by urself in ur dead guild while i raid icc kid see what hppens when i get a shadopwmorne for everyonwe in my guild for 50 bux each im a rich kid my parents have really big and important jobds and you'll see whalll happen if u k3eep buolly me i cant stand u guys ur the wrost i
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>tfw I would always spam this shit thread with Corecraft is never coming out back in mid 2014 and now that I've not played WoW in like 2 years I see Corecraft is still not out.

My fucking sides, you literally CANT make this this shit up, enjoy waiting some more.
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tfw janitor sleeping
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>>128738740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM4CDLmDx_Y

Jhere ui go hoepfulyl u waill calm down now ill be back in about 8 hours to l;evel up if i dont hit 780 by monday i ahve to litght my nuts on fire. ill record it for u all
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>>128738883
i will go to sleep too
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Hey guys, check out my latest pvp montage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGFH0wupAA
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>>128739231
>vanilla netcode
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhTkUEqjn-E

Reminder to raid with /vg/ when corecraft comes out, I will be leading the guild and raids. I have first class experience as this video evidence proves.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WU8V-fRAYs

Qone has never been seen again
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Reminder that there's literally zero reason to play on lolten now that you can't skip the fake queue anymore. ToD comes out in a month and many high-tier guilds are rolling there because they realize that molten is trash.
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Anybody knows where to get Addons for 3.3.5a ?

Kinda struggling with finding a working Map-cord addon.
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>>128740016
tomtom for coords
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>>128740016
Generally you get old addons from Wowace and Curseforge. Find the addon you're looking for, open it's page, go to the "Files" tab (works on both pages) and find the most recent Release version for the game version you want, or if no release version is available, the most downloaded version is usually ok. And obviously don't download a nolib version as they, as the name suggests, don't include any libraries.
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>>128740016
MapCoords is what I use as the only feature it has is introducing the coordinates.
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>>128740162
Damn that worked, thanks mate.
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>>128739643
>he does it for free

haha you cuck
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>>128741371
>is a cuck
>calls others cucks

haha you cuck
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Hello /wpsg/.

Nost has been overrun with chinks and since I stopped playing in TBC I thought that I might want to enjoy something new.

Tell me, how is the WotLK server?
Is it 1x from level 1 to max level or did they shit it up with speeding up the run until Northrend and level 68?

Also, how is the population? What are the peaks? Are there many chinks?
What's the state of the guild?

And finally, what does the guild need? Which class/spec?
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>>128739643
>ToD comes out in a month
What's that, mate.
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>>128744547
>And finally, what does the guild need? Which class/spec?
Anything cause this shit aint balanced.
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To think we've come this far.
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>>128746152
This is one of the greatest things this general has produced, coming close second to pic related.
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>>128744812
Ok, ty.

Could I get info on how many players are there, is it overrun by chinks and is the server 1x from level 1 to level 80?
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>>128746504
It really isn't. You must be pretty new.
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>>128746504
It was pretty rushed and half assed since I was just bored. I think my other work is much better.
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what's the fastest way to grind up a new character?
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>>128747787

zygors guide
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>>128747787
By not being a shitter in a 10 year old game.
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>>128747787

Use a bot.
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>>128747787
find a high level dude that boosts you.
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need hunters warlocks mages enha shamys im waiting you <VG>
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>>128751663
We need druids.
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>>128751832
no more druids! we are full
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>>128751937
There's like one anywhere near 80.
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le
_aunt
__poisoner
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By far the most populated and hardcore server.
<VG> wwu
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>Queue-skipping trick seems to no longer work

Fug

15k player cap when
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Remember to log in early.
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>>128754020
It doesn't matter. However much they increase the cap, they'll just fake the pop to fill it up.
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i like to use noggenfogger because it makes me smaller but makes it look like i run faster
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>>128754228
>implying unproven implications
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>>128754329
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>>128754329
>unproven
Do you really need to prove something they themselves admitted to?
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>>128754486
>>128754610
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>>128754704
>kaer himself says
Opinion disregarded in entirety.
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>>128754704
how does that even work?
if you ask the server to provide you with current player statistics. It will give you those statistics right away.

all that should happen is the player counter should give you the current number. If the player counter is not going down as players log out, that means that it was programmed not to show actual numbers.

this sounds a lot like how they locked old raids because "they are not Bliz like yet" conveniently as they released the transmog feature.
also it sounds like how they locked heroic modes in raids because "they are not Bliz like yet" while allowing people to buy the heroic mode gear.
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>>128755159
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>>128755213
It's the same "feature" that allows you to skip the queue after you disconnect.
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21:00ST BOYS
get in now and stay logged in inside of DM until then if you have to leave
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>>128755337
But you don't skip the queue after you disconnect. You disconnect, you wait in line again. They're so full of fucking shit even the moltards admit it.
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>>128757175
That actually doesn't happen unless you take a long time to log back in or the server crashes.
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>>128757175
You get back in instantly after you disconnect, youre disinfo shilling and it is hilariously pathetic
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>>128757457
Even when it crashes you get your spot back, literally happened a few days ago, my friend who was offline had to wait in a small queue and i went right back in
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Vengeance wow the TBC private server has Karazhan partially released for some time now.
are there any videos of groups doing it or screenshots?
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>>128757635
How can there be evidence of something that never happened? Nobody fucking plays it.
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>>128757635
I'm not sure there are 10 people playing there.
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>>128757698
>>128757721
really that bad?
I mean even Corecrafts Karazhan has had many livestreams and videos and the server isn't even released yet.
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>>128757881
I guess the server works decently. It's just nobody plays it.
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>>128757881
>>128757984
vengeance is an awful server
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>>128754704
holy shit finally
talk about atlantiss shills getting absolutely
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>128757881
I love watching kara streams from CC.
most of the groups get completly destroyed by moroes and then quit
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tfw a useful boe drops
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Why aren't you playing arenas on Smolderforge with Ituh & everyone from <im not a robot>?
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>>128758546
because tonight we raid
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>>128758546
>>128758672
Yea we'll do that too.

Join us now and Ituh will boost you!
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old wpsg is BACK on SMOLDERFORGE!

Join <im not a robot> TODAY!

wwu
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>>128758546
>>128758854
Because I suck at pvp ;_;
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>>128759050
>all these literal whos
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desu this lordaeron queue really isn't that long
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>>128760221
just fuck me up
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>>128760221
Ive been stuck on position 3 for 10 minutes.
its really good senpai
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>>128760719
>>128760856
ive noticed it will go fast and slow at times, the estimated time is always super wrong though.
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>all these retards sitting in queue to play on a shitsrver
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>>128761918
>posting on /wpsg/ when he doesn't even play the game
ayy lmao
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>>128761968
>he doesn't play on my shitserver so he must not play at all!
Moltard logic.
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>>128762114
name the server you play on and i'll bet it's shit since all private servers are shit.
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>>128762114
>>128762167
still waiting you retarded shill
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>>128763072
truewow
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>>128763072
excalibur
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>>128763072
wowfreakz
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>>128763072
wowbeez
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>>128763072
hellground
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>>128763072
Molten WoW
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wow, i created a meme
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>>128766356
Dank.
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4h get hype
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Post your predictions
http://strawpoll.me/6555199
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>>128768150
2500 queue/10
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>>128710123

how do you join /vg/?
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>>128744547
>how is the WotLK server
Pretty shit, but you should be used to it coming from Nost. It is 1x the whole time

>population
They fake the numbers so its hard to tell, but guessing around 4k at peak times. Not that it matters since the server has a fake que constantly

>state of the guild
It's /vg/, what are you actually expecting
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>>128768304
Just ask friend!
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>shitposts cucumbers and complains when his cronies shit up the thread
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>>128768351
>They fake the numbers
>>128754704
>Let this be the final word on the matter
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>>128768510
FUCK OFF MOLTARD
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Stop playing molten or else
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>>128768831
We're having more fun than you.
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>>128768903
But not raiding isn't fun at all
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>>128768510
>molten higher ups have never lied before
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>>128769020
You play 4 hours a week and spend the entire rest of the week not working, not going to school, not even playing wow. You just sit here resenting the world and shitposting mol10.

I would say you're not only not having fun but you completely hate your life.
That's ok though. You should hate your life. You play fucking cata.
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>>128768903
Yeah, sitting in queue is loads of fun.
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>>128769248
Everyone in the guild gets around the queue.
You're either not in the guild or most likely not even playing lordaeron.
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>>128768150
>43 unique IPs
>266 total votes
Seems legit.
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>>128768150
Wow even moltard strawpols have inflated numbers. this thing contagious
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>>128769425
LMAO
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>>128768351
it's much more than 4k, but you don't play there anyway so why bother responding
>>128768304
make an alliance character /who vg and ask for an invite
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>>128769153
>4

nigger we raid 4-6 hours in one day. before christmas we raided 12 hours one weekend. you seem jealous!
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>>128769590
5-6k seems accurate from my time here.
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>>128769590
>it's much more than 4k
Not really. Maybe more like 5k but not much higher at all.
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>>128769425
This time with captcha, because molten is faking strawpolls.
http://strawpoll.me/6555425
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>>128769663
That's a lot of time to spend on 4 heroic bosses and the rest normals.
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>>128769153
>4 hours a week
Is that normal raid time for casuals at Molten?
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>>128770016
but we're 6/13h, almost 7 :^)

keep replying to me please
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Hey guys, when will plans for ToD be formulated?

Thanks.


KEEP ME POSTED.
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>>128770298
>im addicted to wrath

sad
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>>128770298
They already are.
The 25m raid is almost all accounted for.
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>>128770489
Yeah, he doesn't know corecraft is coming out in a few months
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>>128770489
>I don't to play the objectively best version of WoW

Haha I bet you have a body pillow and use arch.
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>>128761401
for future reference, 150 minutes with 1500 people in the queue
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>>128769926
>i can estimate the population of a server i don't even play on
truly amazing analysis
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Is it wrong if it feels so right?
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>>128770947
I sure as fuck don't now that the fake queue skip doesn't work anymore.
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>>128770737
The objectively best version of WoW is tbc.
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>>128771105
>objectively better despite never reaching wrath subscriber levels.


Yeah no.


Hopefully the next time you do a pacman your system never wakes up, nerd.


- XxDocXXFr0$tyxX - XXromaniaW0rldP0w3r 2030xX
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>>128771096
>he doesn't use the new trick to never be logged off
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>>128770298
Quite a few players from /wpsg/ are going to play in Marxmen (ran by the Autismus Maximus guys). Looking at these threads, there seems to be interest in /wpsg/-only guild as well, but I haven't seen anyone stepping up and organizing one.
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>>128771414
Just like how titanic and avatar are some of the best movies of all time.
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>>128771596
If anyone tries to make a /wpsg/ guild on ToD it'll end up like hellground revivals always do.The finns cucking the guild out of anyone decent.
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>>128771815
>moltard LITERALLY SHAKING IN TERROR from the thought of people playing some other server
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>>128771596
Ok, how about this, if you roll on ToD I'll even set up your UI for you, free of charge.
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I wish she would kiss me like that
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>>128771979
He's right though, why raid with /wpsg/ when you can play with finns.
You will be stuck with shitters like >>128772016
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I want to play on ToD but not with finns. I hope someone is making a guild. But I also hope Finns won't cuck all the good members.
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>>128771979
Not really. This just always happens. It would be hard enough to get something going just with the competition from <AA> and <VG> but throw the finns in there too and you'll be lucky to get a 10 man going.
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>>128772270
>You will be stuck with shitters like >>128772016
I was stuck with him on GD, and I think I'll survive being stuck with him on ToD. Just mute him on voice chat and you're golden.
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>>128772270
That shitter is playing with the finns unfortunately, also not everybody can raid at euro times.
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>>128772417
the finns won't take him, they actually recruit outside /wpsg/ so they don't have to deal with dead weight like him.
that's why <wpsg> and <aa> kept him along he was just a number
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>>128772386
I'll send you a postcard of me raiding while you sit in your queue ;)
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>>128772405
>Tfw you muted klok, DF and that retarded american rogue

wpsg was actually alright without their input. Holy shit that american rogue would just not shut the fuck up.
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>>128772514
Go for it, start a guild. I never told you not to. I just stated what will happen because it's happened plenty already.
The finns always cuck meer.
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>>128772662
wtf man, grayfox had like the best voice in wpsg history
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>>128772728
Even in the previous ToD guild Meer was able to get 10 mans running. Not for a very long time nor very far, but the server was already old then as well as officially only English. Pretty sure at least a 10 man guild is very possible, especially for US timezone people.
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Catacucks are winning, but you can still change the outcome
http://strawpoll.me/6555425/
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>>128773163
>CATAstrophe
>all 6 of <AA> core
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>>128772728
I think there will be enough people from /wpsg/ who don't want to or will not be allowed to raid in Marxmen to have at least a 10-man guild, though. Everyone who can't make (fairly early) EU raid times for starters.
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>>128772271
What is ToD?
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>>128772982
Couldn't stand his normie shit desu.
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>>128773449
theatreofdreams.pl
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>>128773163
Moltards getting ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED without their faked voting.
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>>128773449
theatreofdreams.eu, the next upcoming progressive WOTLK server.
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>>128773449
Theatre of Dreams. Used to be pretty much the uncontested #1 WotLK server in terms of scripting (but 100% Polish) but then they accidentally the whole population after an eternity of Ulduar followed by TOC and staged ICC release lasting way too long. They're now looking into relaunching the server as international, starting the progression from scratch. 1-2x rates (3x with RAF), everything else 1x, absolutely no pay2win and content proven to be good (some people from here rolled there and had two 10-man guilds when the server was still alive).

http://www.theatreofdreams.eu/en/promo
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>>128773947
They aren't doing 'hardcore' shit like disabling rdf or letting mobs deal 30-50% more damage then they should? A 2x exp rdf train into northerend with endgame scripted properly sounds fantastic.
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Rip atlantiss
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>>128774575
>They aren't doing 'hardcore' shit like disabling rdf or letting mobs deal 30-50% more damage then they should?
Of course not. That would be retarded.
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>>128774761
T7 is a joke.
RDF is a huge contribution to the downfall of wow. And was only present for the second half of wrath.

Those are good changes.
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>>128774904
MCKILL YOURSELF XD
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>>128775096
oh hello, am i on nyymichan
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>>128774761
thank god

>>128774904
>RDF is a huge contribution to the downfall of wow

I still don't understand this meme and i was there for the begging middle and end of wrath
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>>128774575
No. Well-implemented encounters and mechanics is hardcore enough. In terms of Ulduar and ICC, anyway. T7 and T9 of course will be easy when they're "Blizzlike".
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>>128775215
Where you there for tbc though?
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>>128775220
>No. Well-implemented encounters and mechanics is hardcore enough
>3.3.5 naxxramas/eoe/os is hardcore enough

I can't tell if you're shit or just hate mol10 that much.
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>>128775416
>moltard reading comprehension
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>>128775513
Except ulduar probably won't be tuned up on mol10.
So your entire argument is that you're a fucking retard.
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>>128775267
I only started retail tbc when sunwell was released and had to level to 70 from 45. Most of my tbc was just pvp on private servers.
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>>128774904
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>>128775416
Not him but its up to opinion though, isn't it. I kind of liked progressing T7 on Lord but on the other hand it made the server feel pretty unauthentic. So for somebody looking for an authentic/nostalgic experience, that probably wouldn't have been fun, and I've heard a lot of casual guilds complaining about it as well.
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>>128775807
Retail t7 people were doing ~2k dps average in 10man gear.
You do about twice that in 3.3.
Everyone is right in that Naxx was never hard. But it wasn't as faceroll as they remember it either.
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>>128776083
>Retail t7 people were doing ~2k dps average in 10man gear.
Wrong. I was doing 4k dps in 10 man gear. The difference between 3.0 and 3.3.5 comes from the gear you get in ICC. There weren't any major talent changes between the two patches.
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>PLAY WITH US
>NO DON'T PLAY THERE IT'S SHIT
>OUR SERVER ISN'T SHIT
>MOLTAAAAAARDS
next level autism, <aa> is pure /wpsg/ cancer
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>>128776239
You must be a retard irl
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>>128775215
The way I see it, it pretty much forces the developers to make content that's facerollable by an unsynergetic group of 5 worst players in the server, in addition to removing the need to communicate with other players and allowing you to behave as assholeish as you like because you're unlikely to ever meet the players you were grouped up with again.

Now, it has other handicaps as well (such as making the game feel like a queue simulator rather than a world, being totally disconnected from the instance's place in the setting and the game world) but I'd argue those are the main ones and WotLK suffered from trivial content from day 1 (Blizzard didn't nerf WotLK "heroics" to be be doable by randoms like in Cata, nothing was lost because they already were trivial) and in a medium-pop server your reputation does matter.

In terms of retail, it was a horrible move because it ensured 5-mans would never be a relevant part of progression again, but unless you completely rethink the progression system to something TBC-esque, in the context of WotLK as-is, I don't think it's too harmful.
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>>128776349
Nice rebuttal.
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>>128776732
lmao shut up retard
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>>128775416
>T7 will of course be easy
>>3.3.5 naxxramas/eoe/os is hardcore enough

Let's remind ourselves of what raids does T7 consist of. Could it possibly be Naxx/EoE/OS?
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>>128776083
That was mostly related to the way people played - nobody had learned to play the classes yet. The first Naxx 25 clear came in in 2 days and they cleared half of the instance with just 18 people in the raid. I also remember my guild was extremely disappointed as we didn't even wipe in the first 4 bosses we did. The talent changes likely have affected DPS somewhat but I don't think nearly as radically as you put it.
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>>128776546
ebin xd
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>>128776732
There is nothing to rebuke when somebody posts something that's so obviously wrong they have to be baiting.
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>>128776929
>rebuke
It's clear now that I'm arguing with a moron.
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heal slut here. got kicked from server waiting in queue....

>mfw no raid
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>>128776862
You're either misremembering or lying.
I'm going to assume the former since it was 10 years ago. People don't even play the same specs that were king in 3.0 as they have to in 3.3 progression t7.
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>>128777136
You're going to get in just in time.
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>>128777136
LMAO
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>>128776546
>march2016
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>>128776862
The talent changes affect things on spec-by-spec basis. For example, Enhancement received fairly major buffs along the way, some specs have received nerfs (for example, HaT spec for rogues was broken in 3.0.8 patch). On average, I think classes (or min/maxed raid comps, rather, being able to stack the most buffed classes) have been buffed more than nerfed but it's a difference of 10% tops in terms of raid DPS.
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>>128776083
>Only 4K dps in 10 man gear in 3.3.5a
Holy shit, what kind of shitters are we talking about here.
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>>128777393
He said 2k, and he didn't say 3.3.5. Awesome reading comprehension, moltard.
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>>128777393
I actually said they do about twice of about 2k
Just throwing out real baseline average numbers, not trying to get down into specifics because it's hard enough to try and get my point across to some people.
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celie naka gross wwwwwuuuuuuuu
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>>128777482
>You do about twice that in 3.3.
In what world is 2k put twice not 4k, and how is 3.3 different from 3.3.5a?
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>>128777681
trickt__
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>>128776083
I love reading his nonsense about 3.3.5 talents changing average dps
you are fucking clueless
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>>128778718
Moltards will damagecontrol anything.
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>>128777306
but theres a 141 minute 1454 ppl Queue
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>>128778923
>but theres a 141 minute "1454 ppl" Queue
fixt ;)
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Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g47oN5snpSU
There's one dude over 2k dps.
Most people were seriously doing 1.5k dps in wrath. I remember some rogue in my 10man (pre HaT bug) being so soked he was doing like 1700 dps. And I rained on his parade by reminding him I was doing that 10 levels ago.

Seriously you are misremembering what the game was like on retail. And honestly I'm going to assume that most of you were too young to raid then.
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>>128779193
>I remember some rogue in my 10man (pre HaT bug) being so soked he was doing like 1700 dps
The fact that you were awful doesn't mean everyone was, anon.
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