Metamorphosis Edition
Eyes Yet to Open >>124578207
>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/
>I can't access DLC, the Eye isn't showing up in the Dream!
Fix: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses
>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com
>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/
>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2
>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/
>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html
>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
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>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/
>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS
>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne
>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner
>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
>Beasthood & Claws Info
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I want to fuck Kos in the mouth.
Freindly reminder that if you watch anime your father probably hates you and himself, knowing that he raised such a pussy for a son
Imagine being Gehrman in that nightmare and having to be all like "damn,Kos, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tentacles and horrific ayy lmao face. I would totally have sex with you, both me in the nightmare and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck Maria in the Cocktower. Like seriously imagine having to be Gehrman and not only sit in that wheelchair while Kos flaunts her disgusting tentacles in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, nightmare after nightmare, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone in the Hamlet tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, KOS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her broccoli looking alium face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been hunting nothing but a healthy diet of Cleric Beasts and heretics and later Fair Maidens for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get eyes on the inside because of her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with Micolash in the previous months. And then the cosmos calls for another miscarriage, and you know you could kill every single fishman in this Hamlet before the Healing Church could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your future doll fucking career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>gank squads never stop spamming their guns
>>124596076
My mother is the one who got me into anime, and my father got me into video games. Hell, I could ask my mom for hentai recommendations if I wanted to, and I play with my dad every week or so when we aren't both working.
I'd say they're both pretty proud.
>>124596194
>mum could give you hentai
There is an extremely high chance she touches your pp regularly
>>124596252
I'd hate to be the one to spoil your fantasies, anon.
>>124596076
>being this triggered
>>124596252
>implying that's bad
New to the bowblade, what should I upgrade for the best dps? I heard skill increases the arrow damage too, but i'm guessing bloodtinge would be best?
Also, is Simon a bitch to fight?
>>124596305
Bloodtinge increases the arrow damage, skill doesn't affect it at all. Simon just gives you the bow for free later if you leave him be.
>>124596305
Simon uses his bow 90% of the time. I managed to kill him at BL30, it was a pain. Both SKL and BT scale with A ranking, BT affects arrow, SKL the blade. If you're not going to 50/50, then do 25/50
>>124596110
I think, at most, it's a visual bug for abyssal gems. Maybe a patch will come, but I imagine all it will do is change the gems' representations on the status screen. It would at least explain why sharp gems can hit at least 27.2 bonus scaling but do fuck all because there isn't an "abyssal" in their name.
>>124596136
No, don't. MLGS is best described as a quality weapon with some arc damage on the side. Investing in arc for it means your tricked R2s and L2s do more damage. The rest of the moveset is fucked.
>>124596359
>>124596393
Ok thanks
>>124596252
>he doesn't get blowey joeys
If you attack simon and fail to kill him will he still be at the same spot?
So guys what do you think of Vaati's new video?
>>124596506
Holy Moonlight Sword is a projectile weapon for pure arcane builds, and a melee weapon for quality builds. Beam spam with 50arc is more than enough reason to use the thing.
>tfw invading in beast form, roaring and baiting hoontas into enemies.
My mind is blown right now guys. So the Reiterpallsch is not that much weaker than the threaded cane and it scales a tiny bit harder but even with the skill scaling gem it doesn't seem like it would be worth taking over the threaded cane as back up to Rifle Spear. What do you guys think?
>>124596675
Stuff it with brainsucker gems and shoot people.
>the Rakuyo has different combos for the L2 depending on if it's done after an R1 or an R2
Time to start leveling that 50 SKL build and be a so called "shitter"
>>124596853
thanks m8. i own you
>>124596675
All scaling gems before abyssal are shit, and there are no abyssal skill scaling gems. That's why your skill scaling gem is shit.
>literally beast cutter
>>124596950
segmented swords have been an anime staple since the beginning of time senpai
who Cock-Addled Hunter here
>>124596860
Don't know why, but the quick jab r2 gets me turbo hard
If there is something in this game that truly triggers my autism that has to be the bowblade.
Does the fancy mechanism of this shit even make any sense?
>>124597078
>"It just works."
> - Simon the Harrowed
>>124596835
thats cool. I didn't go arcane, I went skill but I might try this on another character
>>124597078
It doesn't, but none of the trick weapons do, if you get down to the details
>>124597165
Reiterpallasch doesn't get any scaling off the flat arc because it's a split damage weapon, so the bullets still scale with only bloodtinge. It's just that the flat arc gems add their damage on top of everything, including bullets.
Cute?
>>124597430
thats crazy. I had no idea that arcane worked like that outside of the papers
what build for bow? any weapon to accompany it well? pls help this noob out, just finished my first ever playthrough as a generic quality build
>>124597437
Looks like a dude taking pills to turn into a female
>>124595905
How do you guys keep changing the OP?
One of us will put more info or change something, like
>CD finds & Weapon Variants
to
>Chalice Dungeon Glyphs for Gems, Weapons, Runes, etc. Please update
and you fuckers go back to old outdated shit.
Just pay attention, holy shit.
Robin too strong
http://strawpoll.me/6201206/
>>124597437
Nose is too long, personally.
>>124597476
It doesn't, all flat damage gems do that. Flat arcane gems are the easiest to farm for though, since all of the others only appear in chests. Regular arcane %damage gems wouldn't actually do anything on the Reiter.
>>124597203
Excluding the threaded cane and the beast cutter almost all the trick weapos can more or less be replicated IRL with a samller size.
I even saw a guy replicate the saw cleaver in metal with almost exactly the same mechanism like in the game
>that feel when more in sync with NPC's than the goddamn host.
How do you feel about people summoning Old Hunters and co-opers?
>>124597437
I'd marryhim,good job anon!
>>124597203
The Axe would be pretty easy to make
>>124596835
I shoot for 180-225 with 27.2%'s on my BL43.
Think I'd do more with those?
That's also the damage vs other players, not NPC's.
>>124597496
>>124597586
>>124597717
bullies desu...
Is the DLC OST out yet?
I need it in my life
>>124595905
someone draw ayyhunter and beasthunter in Jojo poses
also i just realized, when micolash talks about kos (or kosm) and asks if he can hear our prayers.... considering the old ones he aligned with are mergo and mensis.
he was talking to the hunter or more like trying to contact kos through the hunter ?
>>124597714
Co-op is great, but only after doing your first playthrough solo. Otherwise, you can't really say you beat the game, can you?
>>124597776
I'm not bullying!she's a cute girl but she'd be an even cuter boy! you really did do a good job
i can never tell when someone is actually saying senpai and desu or if they're trying to say f a m and t b h
>>124597741
Best way to make the bullet damage pretty is either farming bloodlickers for their weirdly common off shapes, or farming gun watchers for their 31% off shapes. 27.2% physicals are the easy way out.
>>124597837
Micolash is wearing the Byrgenwerth student uniform, using Choir spells, and babbling about Kos, Rom, and the cosmos. Why would you think he's aligned with Mensis?
>>124597905
well, you can if you're not autistic.
so that rules most of us out.
>>124597905
not that poster but you're sort of right. Some of us just lack skill per say. its the way life works. I think i'm at my skill ceiling because the dlc is absolutely brutal to me. like I just can't parry or anything. Its been a truly terrible experience and I haven't even taken out ludwig.
>>124597714
I will only ever co-op if I've beaten the boss by myself already. So it's usually, first character is a run through, 2nd and up is jolly co-op.
>>124597964
I thought Micolash was the head of the Mensis group.
>>124597631
>>124597739
Yeah I mean they can be recreated, sure, but anything that's folding/clicking/attaching/whatever is very rarely practical, or safe, in combat situations
Imagine the hammer part of the Kirkhammer accidentally detaching mid-combat onto your leg
>>124597837
There's already a picture of that, with the ayylien at least.
Ayys vs. Ferals fight club when?
IT AIN'T FAIR MAN
>>124597964
well the brain of mensis is hanging around in his castle
it´s more about him saying his intro as a reaction to the hunter being connected to kos
>>124598025
Same for me, but i'm more autistic and actually refuse to use crutch items like fire paper/resins on my first playthrough as well
>>124598025
>Co-op for a boss and kill him with a friend
>try the boss on my own and die
>decide to ring
>the guy I helped kill it before comes and helps me kill it now
It is an oddly warm feeling to be reminded me that a Hunter is never alone.
>>124598041
Which would be silly to think, because the game says nothing on the subject at all. He uses choir stuff, has a mensis cage, and is host of the nightmare (whatever the isometric fuck that's supposed to mean). He's a confusing character in all ways.
>>124597792
Check the archive if you want it.
>>124597714
the old hunters usually get in the way. They stagger bosses out of parry/backstab animations and steal visceral attacks (doing no damage in the process).
>>124598056
>let's talk about the realism of trick weapons
>ok I'm going to start with the hammer that is as large as the character and is held up (and wielded by) a sword the size of an arm and as thin as 2 HDMI cables on the inside of it
You must be real fun at parties.
>Please, bring to an end the horror…
>So our forefathers sinned?
>We hunters cannot bear their weight forever…
>It isn’t fair, it just isn’t fair
It really got to me when Simon said these things, usually i don't get emotional from NPC dialogue in souls games
I'm really, really liking the Boom Hammer... why does it have to be so... basic?
What are the chances of From patching it to be better? Will that ever happen?
>>124598265
Have you never heard Gehrman talking in his sleep?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rLtdiFaV8k
>>124598060
i´d love to see the two drawn like this
Anyone around SL 30-50 that wants to take on ludwig? He's been giving me shit for 5 hours now
>>124598319
Nothing wrong with basic. And no.
>>124598146
>He uses choir stuff
Mensis and the Choir started as literally the same group of people and were tightly knit until the moon ritual shit began. ACB/AoE are not exclusive to either party, and Micolash is not the only Mensis scholar to use ACB anyway.
>>124597837
No actual Jojo pose gesture in game
what a shame
>>124597964
>Best way to make the bullet damage pretty is either farming bloodlickers for their weirdly common off shapes, or farming gun watchers for their 31% off shapes. 27.2% physicals are the easy way out.
It's a 43 skill twink, I just never though to apply flat-arc gems to it. I'd probably just revert to phys gems anyway since I'd lose out on the weapon damage.
>>124598265
Sounded like a whiny baby to me. Like, just move out, nigga.
>>124598402
Actually, you're right about that. DLC introduced a new NPC with lots of phantasm stuff.
It's weird that the item description would call it Choir gear, then.
>>124598265
Yeah, Simon was sort of forced in and relatively out of place but that last bit really stuck.
Still have no idea why they didn't use a character already in the lore or one that had implied lore, especially when we LITERALLY got 0 executioner lore and 0 HoH lore in the DLC
>>124598354
I have but it didn't really get to me
>>124598361
that´s kinda low for ludwig unless you´re a god at dodging.
>>124598480
Well, the flat arc would apply to weapon damage too. So all of your melee attacks would be getting the +200~ arcane damage on top of natural skill scaling. How much are you already getting with whatever gems you have?
anyone tried to npc hunter for paarl?
don't want to summon him if he;s only going to die 10 seconds into the fight
>>124598615
He doesn't die surprisingly, but he doesn't do much damage either. He's a distraction though, and that's really helpful against Paarl.
>>124598615
he´s not completly worthless , but don´t expect him to survive the fight
Who's doing the narration at the end?
>>124598496
What more do you need from the HoH or the executioners?
The executioners are a small, fanatic group of church hunters that really, really hate vilebloods and specialize in hunting them instead of beasts. The HoH are hunters that put down blood-addled hunters before they can go on a rampage and cause problems for the hunt, or become beasts themselves. They're mercy-killers.
That's all you really need to know. There's no more story there to tell.
I'm going to make a STR build focused on the ayymygdala arm, is there any other relevant stats other than VIT/END/STR ?
And is there anything I need to do before killing Amelia and rushing through the dlc ?
>>124598730
of the dlc ? gherman
>>124598146
>and is host of the nightmare (whatever the isometric fuck that's supposed to mean)
I really don't think it's that confusing post-DLC.
A Great One can establish a separate layer of reality through sheer willpower, and it can be shaped by a host
The two concrete examples are:
MP+Hunter's Dream+Gehrman
Mergo (Wet Nurse depending on who you're talking to)+Yahar'gul Nightmare Inception Edition+Micolash
Orphan of Kos+Yharnam and the Hamlet+Maria/Laurence/Ludwig is the iffy one, simply because it's never specified who the host is and FROM said the DLC was supposed to be split into two originally so it's hard to say if there were supposed to be two separate hosts and two separate nightmares originally, but I'd say Maria is the likely host simply because she's at the pinnacle of it all. Wouldn't explain Ludwig's nightmare tidbit, though, since I doubt she got to meet him while she was alive.
>>124597486
pls respond
>>124598569
I know, but im doing a low level playthrough and I need the rakuyo for cosplay purposes
>>124598763
pure str gets you max damage with amy arm/ pizza and kirk
if you decide to pump skill to 25, you also have max damage with saw cleaver, ludwigs, axe
or you could put some points into arc for tools and MLGS
up to you
Where do you guys think I should go next?
I'm level 65, I just beat Ebrietas, and I've attempted Logarius a few times but I seem to always get him down to just under 1/4 health, then I get stabbed by a million flying swords then combo'd.
Is he weak to anything? Bolt and Firepapers don't seem to do much.
Should I just go take on Micolash, and get the Bloodrock to +10 my Sawcleaver, and maybe find some better gems then attempt him again? Or is now a good time to try the DLC and maybe finish some chalices?
Stats:
25 vit
16 end
35 str
25 skill
base bt and arc
+10% stamina, all damage down +4%, more echoes, and +2% hp while co-oping runes.
+9 sawcleaver with I think +18%, +12% and flat 7, and whatever droplet from Father Gas.
I'm doing a forbidden forest co-op character with simon's bowblade, where should I go to get the best possible gems?
>>124598842
Ludwig is a hunter. Hunters end up in the hunter's nightmare. It's not rocket science to figure out what happened to his ass.
>>124598842
ludwig got pulled into the nightmare by being a blood crazed hunter
>>124598952
How did you manage to beat Ebrietas but not Logarius?
How much sense does it have to upgrade strenght over 60? Im using pizza cutter
>>124598857
full bt build (50bt)
14skill/ str lets you use tricked bloodletter and chikage
use saw spear too because it doesn't scale that well anyway
>>124598842
Host is orphan, he's keeping the promise his mother made for the fish people allive.
>>124598763
If you aren't doing 50str/25arc and filling your lost Amygdalan Arm with abyssal nourishing gems from Amygdala, you're doing it wrong.
>>124598842
It really only gets confusing when you try to work out what "hosts" actually do. You can see Nightmare Frontier from Nightmare of Mensis, and you can see the ship masts off the coast of Nightmare Frontier in Orphan's arena, and you can see Yharnam itself below the water from the beginning of Fishing Hamlet. I'm pretty sure all the Nightmare areas are just the same giant Nightmare dimension, and hosts don't really affect anything at all.
>>124598952
Loggy tip
Backstab him while he does his animu powerup to prevent the phase change
>>124598952
Logarius should be beaten before Rom. You're pretty deep into the game to still be having problems with him. Protip: you can destroy the little sword thing spawning the projectiles. You can even lock on to it and just shoot it with your gun.
>>124598952
ebrietas is much harder
go to 30 vit and then get 2 hp runes (puts you up to like 38 vit)
he'll be easy then
and wear tomb prospector set because it has good arc def but still alright phys
For people that don't read HP lovecraft, most of the realms are inter connected, dreams and nightmares included
>>124598979
>If you never kill Orphan, you'll eventually end up in the Nightmare.
>Unlike the other hunters you find, you're so strong that you'll keep on living.
>Eventually you too will become a horrible abomination like Ludwig or Laurence.
That's an interesting thought that they could allude to in any kind of sequel. Place clues that X boss is the Good Hunter from the first game. And have them on multiple bosses just to fuck with people.
>>124599041
A Great One can't be the host, don't be absurd.
>>124599081
on my first playthorugh logarius gave me more trouble than any other of the late game bosses
>>124598941
Thanks
>>124598952
Clear depth 2 root dungeons for +15% physical gems, upgrade your weapon to +6 or +7, and melt his ass.
>>124598496
Yeah, if there is one thing i'd outright criticize about Bloodborne it's lack of interesting NPCs.
When i think about how many lines of dialogue you can squeeze out of Hawkeye Gough in Dark Souls 1 for example depending on what you do Bloodborne really just pales in comparison.
>>124598952
Destroy the sword he plunges into the ground, that's what summons the flying swords. He's strong agains arcane, fire and bolt IIRC. The trick is to parry and visceral him. Before he goes super saiyan you can stagger him too quite easily.
>>124599025
never go past 50
>>124598265
Try speaking toLudwig's headwithout wearing church gear.
>crazed mixture of whinnying and screaming
Couldn't put him out of his misery quick enough
>>124598595
Oh yeah, that's true.
25skl/10blt/8arc, non-trick does, vs players, ~320, trick does ~275, tricked R2 shots do 180-225.
I'll just fuck around with it later today. Thanks for the idea though brah.
>>124599168
From has a habit of doing shit like that. One of the armored core games has you fighting the player character of the last game as a boss.
>>124598235
And I just realized that the hammer part is actually a fuckin stone.
Speaking about the bow it looks like those branch thingies pinch the blades to hold them in place, and have some kind of spring inside that gives tension to the bow
>>124599021
Because Ebrietas was a joke?
>Beastblood pellet
>Bolt paper
>Hit it once to engage battle and its HP bar
>R1 L1 L1 L1 L1 to boost beast
>she falls down
>don't visceral and just combo head
>she starts charging up or some garbage with her head down
>just unload on her with R1's and she died.
10/10 fight.
>>124599081
This is great advice thanks. I was trying to basically run to the other end of the arena and fight him around pillars to avoid them.
>>124599168
Probably not, because Moon Presence is nameless.
>>124599198
Stabbing him in the back while he's trying to buff will prevent the whole super saiyan thing.
So according to From Soft the DLC was originally supposed to be split into two seperate DLC, but no matter how much i think about i simply can't think of a spot where the first DLC could have ended without it either being retarded, or one of the DLCs having significantly less content.
Where do you think was the original split?
>>124599323
>Probably not, because Moon Presence is nameless.
who said anything about names?
>>124599349
Maria has final boss vibes
>>124597969
>>124598023
The bosses are designed with single player in mind. If you add another player, the boss has to focus on one of you, which gives the other person breathing room. You're not meant to have that breathing room, and having it destroys the tight design of the bosses. Just get better at using i-frames and you can beat the game with 10 Vit.
>>124599349
DLC 1 Hunter's Nightmare
DLC2 Research Hall + Fishing Hamlet
>>124599472
Yeah but imagine them putting 2 areas, and 4 bosses into the first DLC and then the second DLC literally just being Fishing Hamlet
I doubt that's where the split would happen.
>>124599349
We would have gotten more content if there were 2 dlc, there is stuff missing because deadlines and pressure.
>>124599349
dlc 1 ludwig and laurence
dlc 2 maria and kos
it was probably planned to be episodic dlc from the beginning
>>124599349
They probably meant that they originally intended to have 2 separate DLCs, but when they began working on the first one, they decided to just put all their assets into making it and only do one instead of 2.
I seriously doubt they were working on 2 separate DLCs simultaneously, complete with their own level design and then just suddenly up and decided to take all the work they'd done so far and moosh it into one amalgamation of content. They probably just decided to put twice as much work into the first dlc instead of making a 2nd.
>>124599349
Everything pre-research hall would be the first DLC, and everything research hall and after would be the second DLC. First one is about hunters, beasts, and the church experimenting on beasts with Ludwig and Laurence as bosses, and second one is about ayyliums, people being turned into ayyliums and experimented on by the church, and Maria/Orphan as bosses. No, Living Failures isn't a boss, it's an interlude.
Final prize for the first DLC would've been beastmode, and penultimate prize for the second DLC would be kinmode.
>>124599543
>>124599472
>>124599349
Yeah, Maria clearly was an ending to the DLC.
I'm betting they were going to have four areas, but when they ran into trouble either with time, creativity, or budget, they nixed one of them and we got what we have now.
>>124599349
I think:
>Hunters Nightmare and Research Facility was meant to be one DLC
>Ludwig, Living Failures, Maria and Laurence
4 bosses keeps it fairly in line with Artorias and the Dark Souls 2 DLC's.
Most likely why they combined it was that they had no idea what else to add in the fishing hamlet.
>>124598754
It's fun to write one-liners like that and make it sound like they couldn't do with more fleshing out, and you can do something similar with Cainhurst who got some fleshing out through the DLC anyway, but HoH/Executioners were in dire need of actual story and got absolutely none
Executioners being the more prevalent of the two, by far.
>Church took after our holy shawl, but we're an order of church hunters
>We really, really hate the Vilebloods for using a brand of blood that the church acknowledges does bad things
>Good thing no other blood does bad things
>MAN WE REALLY HATE THOSE FUCKIN VILEBLOODS THOUGH
>Our leader is undead just like theirs though haha
>And uses blood magic just like they do
>Also we use it sometimes too
>We also use Cainhurst relics with incredulous frequency
>Our weapon is called Logarius' Wheel but Logarius doesn't use it and never once did
>He has a scythe shaped like a Pthumerian Elder firescythe and a weapon from a previous game and is way too tall to be human but don't mind it
>PYRAMIDHEAD
They're either the "useless fact book" of the Bloodborne world or needed a few fucking lines of story to make them remotely cohesive.
HoH are a really shitty one shot, the idea is cool but gameplay/story wise it ends up sort of just being an Eileen circlejerk, the Executioners as well. There's no actual depth to being in either covenant, whereas Confederates and Vilebloods both get some motivation.
>Vilebloods
>Killing top-of-the-food-chain hunters for Blood Dregs to stuff up their queen's cooch for a Great One child
>Confederates
>Cleansing the world of Vermin, a task they righteously took up as they're the only ones who can see them
>Executioners
>REEE VILEBLOODS REEE
>No Vilebloods you can actually kill in-game unless you do Eileen's story
>HoH
>Eileen handed me a badge
>sweet
>gonna go pvp with this now haha
>random chance to pvp with otherwise friendly hosts
Should've been a new NPC. Meeting Eileen's mentor would've been cool.
Does the beasthood meter increase faster the more damage you deal, or is it entirely based on which attacks you use?
>>124599168
>Bloodborne 2
>the hunter is the final boss
>>124598819
Nah, that's the guy in the cloak at the very start of the fishing hamlet
>>124599528
oh I know and I don't doubt it. I'm just saying some people are bad and can't improve. these things DO happen lol
No love for the most "special" girl?
What is the etiquette on Online IDs? Is it okay uploading a video to YouTube with people's PSN IDs on display, or should I change it to their character's name in the settings?
>>124599647
>Bloodborne 2
>Everything is the same but slightly different ala Dark Souls 2
>Reads your save file of Bloodborne, and takes your most played character's equipment setup, shears off a leg, and recycles the gehrman fight
I'd probably still get it.
>>124599647
>It's not called Bloodborne 2
>It's called something completely the fuck else
>Great One implications are spread thin as fuck, maybe one or two references
>No one's even called a hunter anymore
>Boss's name is "The Last Hunter" and is a fucked up beast/great one megafuck
>>124599647
it would make 1 of the 3 ending canon and i doubt from would do that
you fight a hunter , a wheelchair host boss and squid boss and all three of them are hinted to be the good hunter, but not outright statet.
>>124599647
>Bloodborne 2
>you are the final boss
>you beat it by deleting your character
>>124599561
This desu.
The plan was probably 2 DLCs before they began developing it, and then while they were developing it they were just like fuck it and put it all into one. I'm also sure that we would've gotten a little bit more content, like one additional area if it really was 2 DLCs, since the deadline would be different.
>>124599709
>not having it to character name in the first place
I like it when I summon people and they either have a retarded name or their name matches their character.Plus I hate the fact that I have a shitty PSN ID and Sony has no fucking way of letting me change it. I don't want to make a new account either because I have purchases linked to this one.
>>124599701
>takes like 20 endurance to swing it twice
>has less range than my dick
it's shit m8
So I am at a crossroads..
I only did a STR Character but now I am at BL 86 with 40 vit 20 end 50 str 13 skill and base.
Should I go the 25 skl for more damage and eventual claws?
Right now I am enjoying using Amy Arm.
Should I go ALL IN VIT?
>>124599865
Other people still see your psn name if they have it set to psn, its just you who sees their character names.
>>124599831
Nah, it'd be easy.
You just have to have more than one reference to the Good Hunter's fate.
Maybe you fight a big ass Great One, and it drops the Doll's comb, implying that this great one knew the Doll.
Or you have a beast that drops something similarly related to the Good Hunter.
And so on.
For added fucker, they could make it so you can only ever fight one of them in a play through.
>>124599945
I know that, but it helps me cope with the pain of not being able to name change and hoping that other people set it to character names also.
>>124599803
>The Last Hunter
No.
"The Good Hunter" is the title of the final boss.
>>124600014
I do it anon, i do it...
>>124599196
Funny thing, I actually just discovered a fuckton of bloodborne dialogue I had never heard before yesterday while grabbing all the NPC's
>attacking Gilbert's window
>attacking Iosefka's window
>visiting gascoigne's house with gascoigne dead and not visiting it once before that point
>Ludwig Church Hunter oufit yes/no and without CH outfit, killing him either way
>Adelle church outfit on/off
>killing her slutty butt
etc.
>>124600014
Just make another PSN account and use that for future digital purchases and DLC lol
>>124599865
Post the ID for keks.
>>124599841
If it had been 2 DLCS, the 2nd one would've probably been something else completely. I think the extra time and manpower was just put into fleshing out the first one and making it as good as it was, as well as stuffing as many weapons as they could into it.
That's one thing, I think. They probably had the weapon and spells planned at first and then decided to just put them all into 1 DLC. That's why a lot of them just seem haphazardly handed to you and the density of weapons is so high.
I'll also bet that the beast rune was a last minute addition and flaming cleric beast as a bit of a last minute recycle just for the sake of having some proper way to earn it.
>>124599831
But from does that all the time with their other series. Even DaS2 assumes that DaS1 ended with someone linking the fire.
>>124600043
Now I want to see The Good Hunter's fucked-up beastly form
>>124599865
Why not make another account? I started a new account a couple years ago after having my old one for years and it's not a big deal. You can switch back to your old account to play your old games, but just start playing stuff on the new account and it'll feel better over time. The sooner you start on your new account, the better.
>>124599929
any help with this?
>>124600109
Nah, they put too much work into Laurence for him to have been a last minute thing. If he was Blue Smelter 2.0 I'd agree.
>>124600187
>The Good Hunter
Good is an adjective, not a title. Just because the Doll calls you that doesn't mean that's your title.
>>124600109
Honestly i feel like both the Beast and Milkweed rune were very last minute additions. The models are really bland and i also feel as though it's more fan service than anything else.
Does being able to change into a beast/kin and back at will really go with the lore? I don't think so. So yeah i think it really was 100% fan service, because so many people were very disappointed that there was no beast mode in the game.
>>124600125
someone linked the fire , but it´s not clear if it was the CU or just some other bloke like solaire.
>>124599929
Claws don't really need skill, you can use them just fine with only strength. For maximum claw fun, pick up two abyssal heavy gems in chalice dungeons.
Raise vit to 50, and raise arcane to 15 for all those super useful buff tools.
>>124600125
>But from does that all the time with their other series. Even DaS2 assumes that DaS1 ended with someone linking the fire.
HOLY FUCK
H O L Y F U C K
REDDIT DETECTED
DARK SOULS 2 IMPLIES NOTHING ABOUT THE CHOSEN UNDEAD LINKING THE FIRE OR NOT
IT IMPLIES THAT EVEN IF YOU DONT LINK THE FIRE YOU'LL GO HOLLOW AND THE NEXT FUCK WILL ANYWAY UNTIL INEVITABLY THAT SHITTY FLAME GETS LIT
THE ENTIRE POINT OF DS2 WAS THAT AN AGE OF DARK CAN NEVER LAST AND THAT THE SERPENTS WERE TRIPLECROSSING FUCKS
FUCK YOU VAATI FUCK YOU DAVECONTROLLIVE PLAY THE FUCKING GAMES SO THAT YOU DONT LEAD YOUR SHITTY FANBASE TO DUMB FUCKING CONCLUSIONS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>124600317
First off, you wouldn't even want to refer to the character as a hunter, unless they're human, for the most part. It's too on the nose. You want there to be a degree of wiggle room.
>>124599701
Gratia sliders when?
>>124600202
>>124600089
If you have a Vita then it's a pain in the ass because you have to wipe it every single time you want to change PSN IDs. My PSN ID has Vita purchases linked to it so I'd rather not switch accounts. I'm just going to hope one day Sony lets me change the ID.
>>124600125
DaS 2 is not canon though
>>124600361
>Dark Souls 2 has ANY point
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
right back at ya, buddy
>>>124600452
Sony will never change it, topkeklord69analboy.
>>124600243
He literally is Blue Smelter. That boss had one or 2 new attacks, too. His second phase has like 3 attacks and they could recycle the model rigging from Ludwig's spit for the lava spit, as well as recycle most of the attacks from the crawling swamp zombie dudes for most of his attacks (which is exactly what they did). Laurence's 2nd phase has like 3 actually new animations. He's mostly just a patchwork of recycled animations, which more than anything is a sign that he came into being as a concept near the end of the animation portion of their dev cycle, since they only have so much time to access a mocap studio.
Laurence was an afterthought.
>>124600361
Slow the fuck down, retard. Miyazaki said in an interview for DaS1 that Solaire links the fire in his own world after helping the player with Gwyn. DaS2's dev said in an interview that the ashes you find for your estus flask were Solaire's dust, after he cooked himself to link the flame. And if DaS1's Dark Lord ending was canon, there wouldn't be a DaS2 for exactly the reasons illusion Gwynevere says.
This isn't rocket science.
>>124600361
Slow down anon. At the end of DS1 someone does link the fire, either you or Solaire. But you're right in the sense that DS2 says nothing has nothing to do with this, however.
>>124599701
>>124600450
How does Gratia even look like?
>>124600452
Keep your old account for Vita games, but use your new account for PS4. Or get used to factory resetting your Vita when you want to switch accounts. Or buy another Vita for the new account. Or stay sad.
>>124600537
>Miyazaki said in an interview for DaS1 that Solaire links the fire in his own world after helping the player with Gwyn
[Citation needed]
>>124600361
wat.
isn't the whole point that you're meant to make your own conclusions? I think it's a fair call to say that in DS2 the chosen undead in DS1 linked the fire, but also it is very likely that by the time DS2 came about, there had been a few ages of fire or dark
let's be civil, friend
>>124600526
What's funny is that even if any of that shit is true, that's still way more work than they put into Blue Smelter.
>>124600501
I like when people make this argument like they have no idea what a trilogy would look like
>dark souls 1
oh shit it's a cycle
>dark souls 2
shit let's break it familias
>dark souls 3
THERE WAS A POINT WERE WE SHOULD'VE STOPPED AND WE HAVE CLEARLY PASSED IT BUT LETS KEEP GOING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
DS2 mirrors that fine with the crown shit, people should be mad that they waited until the DLC's to tell the fucking story, not that it "didn't have a story at all"
>>124600537
>This isn't rocket science
Is this a new meme or something?
>>124600537
source
>>124600508
The only time I've ever seen Sony let someone change their account name was when they were reported for an offensive name. If your name can be considered vulgar or racist then get a friend to report you and PSN might force you to pick a new name. The other possibility is that you get banned though.
>>124600317
It's the fan's name for the player character. In each game, the fans refer to the pc by the name that your level-up waifu uses. DeS is the Slayer of Demons, DaS2 is the Bearer of the Curse, Bloodborne is the Good Hunter, DaS1 doesn't have a level up waifu but titty lady and toothy dick both call you Chosen Undead so that stuck.
If you were going to reuse the pc character as a boss in an act of pure fanservice, you might as well refer to them by the name that the fans do.
>>124600354
>super useful buff tools
Which Tools are good for the Beast Claw? I thought Beast mode has a built-in Roar in its moveset.
>>124599701
>Fuckhuge Huntress with a penchant for beating the shit out of beasts
>can't break down a wooden door and dies curled up in the corner
Gratia a shit
>>124600609
Go read the fucking Design Works nigga
If you go Dark Lord Solaire will unfuck your decision. It was Miyazaki talking about the whole 'your decision is meaningless' aspect without devoting an entire game to the concept.
>>124600782
anime bone and beast roar tool
the built in roar is ass
>>124600564
Probably exactly like the giant lady corpse you find her fist on. She has a red ponytail.
>>124600609
I could go search the entire internet for it if I didn't just wake up, and I'd probably find it. In fact, I probably have the exact interview in my bookmarks somewhere. But it's too early for this shit and you're overreacting in a silly way, so instead I'm going to pull a random link and hope it's the right one. So here you go.
http://pastebin.com/u/kaelsmith
>>124600782
>Beast mode
>Good
senpai...
>>124600770
>DaS1 doesn't have a level up waifu
and this is why it will never be the best souls game
>>124600770
I didn't know that. Thanks for making me feel foolish.
>>124600317
>Not a title
It's his Cosmic Entity Title, anon, these are facts.
>>124600883
No shit Gratia is the corpse, but what does she LOOK like. Pictures, I need pictures of Gratia.
>>124600884
b-but muh jump & roar into ACB combo that's guaranteed to kill anything and everything
>>124600685
Because they put way more work into bloodborne than DaS2. There's really no comparing the two games other than the fact that it's a meme to hate one, and a meme to fanatically ignore all flaws in the other.
"It's okay when bloodborne/miyazaki does it!"
Face it, Laurence is a shitty, low-effort last minute copout made entirely of recycling content. Recycling content seems to be a recurring theme in bloodborne, what with you fighting the same enemies for half of the game across various different areas. It's just okay when miyazaki does it
>>124600721
Nonsense. Dark Souls 1 and 3 are a story and probably will flow directly into each other. Dark Souls 2 is fanfiction and AT BEST it takes place in an alternate reality, Star Trek-style.
>>124600902
good job baka
>>124600885
DaS1 didn't have a level up waifu, and instead it had the most interesting NPCs in the entire series, who actually feel like they live a life of their own and don't center around you. The amount of different dialogue you can get out of NPCs in Dark Souls depending on what you do is immense.
>>124600782
The Beast Roar tool is basically Force from DaS1, but better. Beastmode's built-in roar is entirely different: it doesn't knock shit down and only staggers, it does minimal damage, it's slower to startup, and it builds minuscule beasthood.
>>124600782
The built-in roar is shit, It is every bit as slow but only staggers instead of knocking back, and doesn't stagger long enough to be useful.
>>124600782
The roar is just a stagger/reflect tool. The damage buff comes from the free beast pellet mode. It's basically a berserk meter. The roar is a bit OP in PvE though as it can stagger literally everything, even bosses like Maria.
You can either go bolt paper and be a dark beast or do a STR + ARC quality build and use the shell for the retardedly OP arcane buff. Personally I did the latter because I like easily-renewed resources and bullets are way easier to get than bolt paper.
>>124600885
Well to be fair the level up waifu is still in the game, she's just a boss instead.
>>124600984
>ACB
You're rolling Arc with Beast Claw? Sounds fun as fuck. Any good?
>>124601118
Maria has no poise, dude,. Everything staggers her.
>>124601009
I agree.
You can't really disagree on that point.
>recycling content seems to be a recurring theme in bloodborne
More like a FROM thing in general.
You'd think Demon's Souls has nothing to contribute to Bloodborne, but the sheer quantity of sound effects from it is staggering.
Dark Souls 3 is looking to have an absolute fuckload of stuff from Bloodborne just straight ripped. It wouldn't surprise me if no reviewer even mentions this because most of them are PKeks or Xboners more then likely.
>>124601010
yeah same dude
- Vaa "girls in white church outfits are amelia" Ti
>>124600839
She was probably succumbing to the beast blood and punched herself in the stomach to death
So I miseed out on going to Hypogean Gaol, I killed rom the spider, then I killed bloodstarved beast.
And I don't think I can go there because the worlds all fucked up. Is there anyway I can get there now?
>>124601038
The lack of colour correction in your image is triggering my autism.
>>124600984
>>124601140
Arc beast claws actually sounds pretty great.
You could slot a bolt gem on them and become darkbeast.
>>124601225
>Xboners
Do these people even still exist?
>>124601264
Hypogean Gaol is the same lamp you found the three npc hunters at.
>>124601264
Unseen Village = Gaol
The only thing you missed out on are maybe some twin shards, since now the bagmen are dead and have chunks on them
>>124601264
The area that was Hypogean Gaol is now Yahar'gul. You can still kill Paarl, but you've missed out on the NPCs/items that were there.
>>124601225
I think many people are noticing reocurring themes nowadays across the souls games. Just take the bloated head people in Oolacile with all the eyes. And i think Miyazaki is aware of this issue, and i think it's good that he calls the series quits after DaS3
>>124601264
If Rom's dead then you can't go to Gaol anymore. You have to get there the hard way, fighting through the hordes of respawning red phantom enemies and lasers.
All of the items and stuff and paarl will still be there waiting for you, but the church bitch will be dead.
>>124601284
The amount ofcutein you is triggering myheart
>>124601285
iirc doing this fucks with beasthood.also it was a joke, someone came in here yesterday and was ranting about how good his beast mode combo was. By the end it had a whole bunch of conditions piled on top of it to work at all.
>>124601285
Arc claws are kinda shit since beasthood only boosts physical damage but still reduces your defenses. I'm sure you could hit some interesting numbers with three abyssal cold gems, but you'd want 99 insight and clothes with low beasthood so your defense penalty doesn't go any higher than -20%.
>>124601371
By NPCs, do you mean Adella?
>>124601361
>>124601362
>>124601371
>>124601395
EEAAAAH. I see. Thanks for that boys.
>>124601381
I mean good.
Bloodborne had its moments, and felt fairly unique, but it still seems so derivative of other media.
Hunter attire straight ripped from french films, majority of the mythos heavily influenced by Lovecraft, and theres still a berserk reference here and there.
>>124601505
yep
i just noticed that the Menstrual Blood Theory got debunked since you get Adeline blood from that Syringe on her arm.
>Archibald completely missing
>Ayysefka still doesn't make any sense
>Executioners still have no lore
>Maria doesn't have a dad
>Oedon is no less vague than he was before
>Arianna and Adelle are still dead ends
>Fucking darkbeasts
>FROM literally cannot make more than one complete DLC per game
>>124600853
But Solaire went crazy and tried to kill me. He's dead.
>>124601630
>Menstrual Blood Theory
That only applied to Dark souls I think, anon.
>>124601630
It's funny that Miyazaki would go so far as to strap an NPC into a chair so you have to draw blood from her yourself just to refute that particular fanfiction.
>>124601643
B-b-b-b-b--but in Lordran the flow of time is convoluted
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>>124601643
not canon senpai
one of the only things in DS1 that explicitly isn't, actually
Selling my soul for a ludwig kill, alternatively I can help you with a boss of your picking.
Man, even at lowish levels Flamesprayer and a fire saw spear just beats up the earlier chalices and takes their lunch money.
>>124601759
Level and password, m80. Afterwards, you and I are going on a trip.
Why is being an ayy so damn fun?
>invade research hall
>catch the host and his jolly cocksuckers just as they come up the elevator
>>124601381
I don't think it's really an issue. It's one thing to reuse visual themes and concepts between games, and it's pretty benign if the only assets you're recycling are engine code and sfx samples. BB's problem is more with the fact that the same enemies appear and reappear so many times in so many different places throughout the game. Considering that your first real combat encounter is a horde of yharnam villagers with the pitchfork variant, the sabre variant, the sickle variant, the shield variant, the gun variant and the torch AWAY AWAY variant, and the brick dude and the dog; the fact that you encounter these same enemies in Central Yharnam, Cathedral Ward, the path to Hemwick, Forbidden Woods, Yahar'gul and the Hunter's Nightmare is pretty silly. They're primary enemies for almost half of the game, and almost every single enemy type outside of Byrgenwerth and Cainhurst appears in at least 2 different areas of the game.
You really get tired of fighting the same things after a while. No other souls game ever had this problem.
>>124601230
Back up what you're saying without random insults. I'm not a fan of that guy and I don't know what he says about DkS2 but I've played through the games and there seems to be no connection between 1 and 2.
Dark Souls and Bloodborne have just as many connections just by merit of being From games and having Patches, Moonlight Greatsword, and Chester from Oolacile. What source do you have for your belief that DkS1 and 2 are in the same world/timeline/dimension?
>>124601759
I'll help. I could use some help with Defiled Amygdala after, but if not I just like helping anon.
>>124601880
bl30, ghj.
Think I have all of the chalices on my 80 toon
>>124602000
I'll be right there with my own BL30, give me a minute.
>>124601926
Bro I'm not even a lorefag but:
In NG+ you get the Dark Souls Lord Souls in conjunction with the Dark Souls 2 Lord Souls when you kill the bosses.
So question..
If using mostly Amy arm, should I go 50 STR 25 SKL for a little bit more damage and beast claws potential or keep SKL at 13 and go 50 VIT? I cannot go arcane or it will put me on the 100's
This is important
>>124601905
I dunno, but it's especially fun when you're a low level.
>>124602061
Cheers.
>>124601967
feel free to join, ghj. Think I have the defiled chalice, but not 100% if I did the skip or not. Been a while.
>>124601168
It staggers her charge attacks that even the burial blade can't intertupt.
It also staggers orphan of KoS. Does he also have "no poise"?
>>124602187
what gems are those?
did they ever explain why doctors and gascoigne wear bandages over their eyes
So what happened to Caryll?
>>124602187
Kick it up to 43 bruh, can't invade anyone below 30
>>124602187
Dude, they literally give you Farnese's hair in this game. Why didn't you go with that?
>>124602438
why is there a vial of iosefka's blood outside wetnurse?
>>124601926
If you don't think that Dark Souls 2 is a sequel to Dark Souls 1 with the lord soul shit and the timeline presented by NPC's (namely Straid) and item/spell descriptions, you are beyond help
>>124602201
Ringing bell outside boss room.
>>124602438
It's a nod to willam. Just like the choir hat.
>>124602496
She became Oedon
>>124602530
Why is one of the most powerful healing items in the game right outside the last required boss fight? Good question anon, but maybe it'd be silly to think someone else couldn't have gotten a sample from Iosefka and left it there. She does give it out like candy, after all.
>>124602438
When hunters become blood-addled, their pupils collapse, which makes for a very obvious visual indication that they're about to go all beasty. They bandage their eyes probably because they don't know what's wrong beyond the fact that they suddenly went blind and their eyes are fucked up, or to hide the evidence of their imminent beasthood.
